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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 10-23-25 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 3: Well, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome, welcome, welcome to day 23 of October 2025. No
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  Speaker 4: My name is Lee Elsie. I am the voice of freedom.
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  Speaker 4: I am the official and host for Wayne when he
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  Speaker 5: So hopefully you.
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  Speaker 4: Are in for the entire two hours, and I would
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  Speaker 4: appreciate that very much. Thanks to all the folks behind
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  Speaker 4: the scenes making it go. So I know this isn't
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  Speaker 4: necessarily politics, but I have to start with this.
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  Speaker 5: I got to.
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  Speaker 4: In a world, in a world, where heroes are nearly
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  Speaker 4: impossible to find. Do not, for even one minute, look
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  Speaker 4: to the sports fields for any heroes, because you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to find many, if any. So I stand before you,
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  Speaker 4: or I stand before this microphone. I'm a former professional athlete.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a man who earned far, far less in my
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  Speaker 4: entire career than today's rookie baseball player makes in one
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  Speaker 4: single at-bat. Yet, I can say with complete sincerity that
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  Speaker 4: I played with pride, I played with sweat, I played
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  Speaker 4: with heart, I believed in the game, I believed in athletics,
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  Speaker 4: I believed in the athletes that wore the uniform, and
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  Speaker 4: I believed in all of it. I was all in
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  Speaker 4: for the longest time in my life, but that belief
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  Speaker 4: has been shattered again. Because you've got athletes who are
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  Speaker 4: making 30, 40, 50 million dollars a season that no
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  Speaker 4: longer can be trusted to give you their all.
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  Speaker 5: Cheating scandals, lack of hustle, lack of desire.
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  Speaker 4: I've watched superstar after superstar jog to first base, coast
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  Speaker 4: through the fourth.
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  Speaker 5: Quarter, fake injuries, and now manipulate betting lines. So. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. you know, where to turn now in this.
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  Speaker 4: Now we've seen rigged poker games backed by organized crime
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  Speaker 4: with former NBA stars sitting at that table, not as players,
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  Speaker 4: but as bait. If you're just tuning in or you
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  Speaker 4: don't know about this story, it is.
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  Speaker 5: A doozy, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: You've got NBA players and mobsters conspiring to bilk people
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  Speaker 4: out of money and cheat at poker games.
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  Speaker 5: And that's just the beginnings.
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  Speaker 4: You've got NBA players who now are in a scandal
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  Speaker 4: where they've manipulated their play for money. Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier,
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  Speaker 4: Damon Jones, all indicted, arrested, accused of conspiring with mafia
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  Speaker 4: families to defraud victims over $ 7 million. $ 7 million is chump.
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  Speaker 5: Change to these guys. Yet, why are they doing it?
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  Speaker 4: And they're only getting a piece of a fraction of
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  Speaker 4: a fraction of that $ 7 million.
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  Speaker 5: It's a chump change, man.
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  Speaker 4: Some of these guys signed $ 200 million, $ 300 million contracts.
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  Speaker 5: Why would you risk your reputation for this? For this addiction?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 4: So they used hidden cameras. They barcoded cards. They pre-programmed shufflers.
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  Speaker 4: And they pocketed payments laughing at all the people they
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  Speaker 4: were bilking out of money on these text messages. It
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  Speaker 4: was very sophisticated stuff to poker games. And the betting
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  Speaker 4: itself was worse. Players were tipping off criminals about fake injuries.
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  Speaker 4: The guy Rozier, he told his friends to bet the under.
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  Speaker 4: And if you don't know what that means, it just
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  Speaker 4: simply means there's all kinds of different bets you can
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  Speaker 4: make on these FanDuel or DraftKings apps. And you can
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  Speaker 4: bet how many rebounds or points or assists somebody gets
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  Speaker 4: in a game. You can do a combination of all that.
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  Speaker 4: He told his buddies, his gangster buddies, to bet the under.
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  Speaker 4: And then a couple of minutes into the game, he
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  Speaker 4: faked an entry, came out, they all cleaned up. The
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  Speaker 4: game's manipulated. Not for victory, but for profit. This isn't competition.
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  Speaker 4: It's just corruption.
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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  Speaker 5: When I first started, you know, gambling, this is like
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  Speaker 5: my wheelhouse. I get this. I'm an athlete. I get gambling, right?
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  Speaker 4: But I always thought that because of the sheer amount
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  Speaker 4: of money that these athletes make, they'd never go down
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  Speaker 4: this road. It makes no sense. Maybe a referee or referees,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even assistant coaches, something like that, you would see
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  Speaker 4: that scandal popping up for sure. But not the guys
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  Speaker 4: who are making $ 25 million a year. How much money
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  Speaker 4: do you need? Is it just the mentality, that thug mentality?
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  Speaker 4: I want to hang out with thugs. I want to
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  Speaker 4: be a thug. I want to hang out with the mafia.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be part of the mafia. Cash is king.
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  Speaker 5: I get that.
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  Speaker 4: The human condition, it can dictate how you act. And
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  Speaker 4: the human condition always finds a way to disappoint. But man,
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  Speaker 4: think about that. All this money that they have. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure this is the tip of the iceberg. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure this is not a single thing. This is not
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  Speaker 4: an isolated incident. I got to tell you, I'm never
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  Speaker 4: going to buy another ticket. I'm never going to purchase
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  Speaker 4: another jersey. I find it hard to support a product
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  Speaker 4: that has no problem betraying people, right? And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: just a disappointed fan. Again, I'm a former player. I
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  Speaker 4: know how the game should be played. I get what
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  Speaker 4: goes on in the locker room. Athletes should be fierce
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  Speaker 4: and clean and honest and play for what matters, not money.
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  Speaker 4: They should play for the roar of the crowd and
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  Speaker 4: don't make it engineered. Gambling is now legal, sports betting
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  Speaker 4: in 39 states. The door is wide open. And apparently
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  Speaker 4: the financial incentives are irresistible. Even to folks who you know,
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  Speaker 4: can swim around in their own money. And now there
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  Speaker 4: are apparently no moral guidelines for any of that.
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  Speaker 5: They're all gone.
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  Speaker 2: All gone.
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  Speaker 4: So now the leagues themselves, these websites themselves, if they
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  Speaker 4: don't absolutely crack down on this like today and make
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  Speaker 4: this a zero tolerance issue, I mean, you could lose
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  Speaker 4: a lot of fans. Because right now what we do
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  Speaker 4: is we reward apathy. We celebrate fraud here for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 4: But their $ 45 million salary is not enough. Again, they
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  Speaker 4: have to be part of the mob, the mafia mentality.
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  Speaker 4: Hang out with thugs and gangsters.
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  Speaker 5: That's it. That's the high point of your existence.
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  Speaker 4: Duping people out of their money in a poker game
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  Speaker 4: with sophisticated equipment.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've been.
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  Speaker 4: Backing off sports for a while for a lot of
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  Speaker 4: different reasons, but the number one reason is the sheer
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  Speaker 4: amount of money that these players make. Not that I
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  Speaker 4: begrudge people for making what they're worth, but when you're
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  Speaker 4: making $ 45, $ 50 million a year, and then the average Joe,
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  Speaker 4: the sports enthusiast who's maybe a bartender or works construction
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  Speaker 4: or just works in a cubicle all day, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he's got to pay $ 100 for a cheap seat ticket.
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  Speaker 5: Forget about taking the family.
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  Speaker 4: $ 100 for a cheap seat ticket.
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  Speaker 5: $ 75 for the park. He wants to have a beer,
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  Speaker 5: it's $ 18. $ 12 for a hot dog.
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  Speaker 4: Pardon my language, but essentially, essentially, you're being raped by
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  Speaker 4: these professional sports entities. Just picking you up, holding you
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  Speaker 4: upside down, and shaking everything. every last nickel that they
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  Speaker 4: can get out of your pockets. And these athletes, they're
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  Speaker 4: not all like this, but these athletes who were caught
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  Speaker 4: in this scandal, I mean, some of them have made
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  Speaker 4: over $ 100 million in their career laughing, laughing at you,
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  Speaker 4: laughing at me. And the attorney general in New York,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to play some audio, but I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to run out of time.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I'll do it later on in the show.
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  Speaker 4: But they are not messing around with this. They're going
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  Speaker 4: for the jugular and rightfully so. Because, you know, these
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  Speaker 4: American pastimes and this happens to be the NBA, but
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  Speaker 4: we've seen it in other places. We've seen these scandals
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  Speaker 4: in college football. We've seen them in college basketball. We've
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  Speaker 4: seen them in professional sports. They popped up now on
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  Speaker 4: a somewhat regular basis because of the ease and the
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  Speaker 4: access of how you can gamble.
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  Speaker 5: You can bet at any time. You can bet from
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  Speaker 5: your sofa. You can bet from your bed.
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  Speaker 4: You can bet anywhere you want as long as you've
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  Speaker 4: got your cell phone. And I'm not somebody who says
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  Speaker 4: don't bet. Again, I've been in that business for a long, long,
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  Speaker 4: long time.
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  Speaker 5: I get it. I understand it.
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  Speaker 4: But I said, when this thing opened up, you're opening
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  Speaker 4: up Pandora's box. And once that genie's out of the bottom,
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  Speaker 4: you're never putting it back in.
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  Speaker 5: So make sure you do it right. And I'm not
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  Speaker 5: sure that they did it right.
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  Speaker 5: This is the war zone. Wayne Allen route is off tonight.
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  Speaker 4: So we are going to the phones right now. I
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  Speaker 4: got a friend of mine who works with ESPN, ESPN productions,
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  Speaker 4: and he's a giant sports fan and all of that.
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  Speaker 4: But again, his inside look and what's going on here.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to do one more segment focusing in
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  Speaker 4: on this NBA scandal.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll bring in on the sports doctor, Keith O'Brien. Keith,
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  Speaker 5: you're talking to America. Good afternoon. How are you, man?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, America. Lee Elty, you sound great. Great job tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And boy, the bomb went off this morning in professional sports,
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  Speaker 2: did it not?
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  Speaker 5: I think so. I think this is a huge wake-up call, but.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, we know sort of the details are starting to
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  Speaker 4: come out now, but what's the ramifications?
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  Speaker 5: What's the fallout from this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Lee, the fallout is this.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about it earlier, the integrity of the sport.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with gambling, online gambling now become mainstream. It's
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  Speaker 2: part of our culture today. You know, the Terry Rozier
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  Speaker 2: thing with the prop bets and guys pulling themselves out
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  Speaker 2: of games. You've really got to question yourself as a fan.
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  Speaker 2: as an owner of a team, as an organization, as
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  Speaker 2: a society. You know, this has been going on a
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  Speaker 2: long time, Lee, and I think it's only going to
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  Speaker 2: get worse. And stories like this, you know, are just
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  Speaker 2: going to bring it more to the forefront. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: gambling is shoved down our throat now. It's part of culture.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of society. And I do think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the tip of the iceberg. When the
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  Speaker 2: FBI is dealing with these things and digging out some dirt,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to find a whole lot more at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the pile.
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  Speaker 4: Explain to me how you can be making $ 20 million
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  Speaker 4: a year and try to grift somebody out of a
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  Speaker 4: few hundred thousand or even less than that, 10, 20,
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  Speaker 4: 30 thousand.
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  Speaker 5: What is it about? Is it just the allure? Is
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  Speaker 5: it the danger?
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  Speaker 2: Ego, narcissism. boredom. I mean, you name it, Lee, that,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't tell me it's competitive edge because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people have competitive edge and haven't done
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  Speaker 2: things like that. I think it's extremely, extremely narcissistic and
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  Speaker 2: ego driven. I mean, we've all got a little bit
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  Speaker 2: that we want more, we want more, we want more,
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  Speaker 2: but how you do it and how you go about
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  Speaker 2: it is That's extremely unethical with Chauncey Billups and the
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  Speaker 2: poker games, the people, you know, he's lying in the
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  Speaker 2: bed with, you know, and even Terry Rozier. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the NBA's had problems for years, man. You know, let's
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  Speaker 2: not forget about Tim Donahue many years ago as a referee.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: You know, throwing games and taking money from the mob
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  Speaker 2: in Boston. I mean, this is not something new with
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  Speaker 2: the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: So we may have some viewers, listeners across the country
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  Speaker 4: who don't know what a prop bet is. So if
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  Speaker 4: you can explain to everybody what a prop bet is,
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  Speaker 4: like in 60 seconds or less.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just say Lee Eltsy is a starting point
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  Speaker 2: guard for the Boston Celtics, which you've got the skills
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  Speaker 2: to do it, Lee. I've seen you on the court. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're all over under to score points is 12. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to bet 50 bucks that Lee's going
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  Speaker 2: to get 12 points or more. Or 50 bucks under 12.
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  Speaker 2: That's the prop bet. Well, Lee Elsie has control of that.
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  Speaker 2: Fakes the injury. Says, I'm on my leg shirt. He's
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  Speaker 2: coming out. He scores six points in the game. But
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  Speaker 2: he tells all his buddies beforehand, bet the under. It's
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  Speaker 2: a lock. You know why? Because I'm taking myself out
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That, my friend, is dirty pool and just off the
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  Speaker 2: chain awful.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so how do they fix it?
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  Speaker 3: What do they do?
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  Speaker 5: Genie's out of the bottle gambling-wise.
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  Speaker 4: How do these sports entities stop what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how does the NBA fix it internally?
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  Speaker 2: That's first and foremost. You know, how do the teams,
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  Speaker 2: the organizations, the commissioner, I mean, how do they police
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  Speaker 2: these individuals so bad? I mean, is it a lifetime ban?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are you not allowed on the court? As
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  Speaker 4: I think the only way to do it is a
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good stuff, buddy. His name is Keith O'Brien. He's
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  Speaker 5: So let's bring on Elsa Kurt.
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  Speaker 4: Elsa, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it very, very much.
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  Speaker 5: How are you today?
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  Speaker 7: I am doing very well. How are you tonight?
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  Speaker 5: We're doing good. I need a tan. I look at myself.
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  Speaker 5: I need a tan.
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  Speaker 7: I'm looking at myself like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I need to be outside
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more. It's getting too cold.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, let's talk about, you grew up in, before
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  Speaker 4: we get to some issues, let's tell everybody kind of
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  Speaker 4: like who you are and where you came from, all
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  Speaker 4: that good stuff. So growing up in a law enforcement family, Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: it shaped your fierce advocacy for first responders. And I mean,
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  Speaker 4: give me a little background, a 30,000 foot.
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  Speaker 5: View of you.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 8: So I actually, you know, I was I did not
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  Speaker 8: I actually did not grow up in a law enforcement background.
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  Speaker 8: I married into it. So this has been like the
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  Speaker 8: second half.
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  Speaker 7: Of my life. This has been as part of law
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  Speaker 7: enforcement family history.
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  Speaker 8: And so, you know, hearing that is probably, as you
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  Speaker 8: can imagine, a little bit of a culture shock because we,
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  Speaker 8: you know, we grew up respecting law enforcement.
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  Speaker 7: You know, new people in law enforcement, of course.
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  Speaker 8: But to be that closely connected to it, you get,
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  Speaker 8: you know, you get that entirely different perspective than what
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: you had before. And, you know, the, the biggest thing
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  Speaker 8: that you find out very quickly is that there's a
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: lot of people that don't like you just for the fact.
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  Speaker 7: That you exist. That is it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: That is because, you know, you, you have associated or
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: are related to someone in law enforcement and you are
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: by proxy, uh, a bad person and and that is
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  Speaker 8: you know that shocked me the most that was not
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  Speaker 8: something that i could have ever even imagined again uh
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  Speaker 8: because we weren't it wasn't part of our upbringing it
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  Speaker 8: wasn't part of our mentality you know we were just
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  Speaker 8: taught to raise law uh raised to respect law enforcement
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  Speaker 8: and and that was kind of it so to see
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: this whole other side of it was pretty eye-opening for sure.
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  Speaker 4: So, OK, so you weren't in that in the beginning,
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  Speaker 4: but you obviously got into that. And we had talked
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  Speaker 4: about how once you get into that, that law enforcement community,
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  Speaker 4: it's such a close knit community. Right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody is sort of with everybody all the time. Correct.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's, you know, we kind of relate it to
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: it's like any family, you know, you can fight like
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  Speaker 8: cats and dogs internally amongst yourselves. But, you know, you
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  Speaker 8: are protective and defensive of your family. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: that was the position that I found myself in when
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  Speaker 8: I met my husband. You know, we were at one
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: of and we've been through many cycles of this, but
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: we were at one of the heights of the anti
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: law enforcement sentiment going on across the country. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: so that was really a first taste in what that
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: really looked like. So for me, it was a matter
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: of like, hang on a second. I know these people.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: And yes, absolutely.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Just like any profession, you know, and I kind of
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: hate the phrase, but I'm going to use it anyway,
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: because it's such a well-known phrase. You know, there's bad apples,
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: bad actors in every profession, right? We all say that
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  Speaker 8: about every profession, at least I think we do. And,
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: you know, and law enforcement is no different. There are
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  Speaker 8: people that never should have been police officers. There are
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  Speaker 8: people who were at one time great police officers and
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: became not so great. You know, more than anyone else,
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  Speaker 8: I think really good cops want bad ones out. You know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: so it's to me, it felt like such a no brainer. Like, well, duh,
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: nobody wants. I just reverted back to my 1980s self.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Did you hear that with the no duh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Very proud of that one. You know, really. And so
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  Speaker 7: I felt very.
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  Speaker 8: Compelled to defend the good men and women of law
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  Speaker 8: enforcement who really are in it for the right reasons,
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: doing the right things and sacrificing so, so much for
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  Speaker 8: their communities.
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  Speaker 4: So you just showed everybody a little piece of why
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: you're so successful because you were funny. Now, so it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: not easy to be funny, right? We all know that
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: some people try to be funny and it's a complete disaster.
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  Speaker 4: Politicians often try to be funny and it's a total disaster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So your podcast, let's.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about that for a couple of minutes. So
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  Speaker 4: you've got a whole bunch of followers. It grows every
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: single day. And, you know, you sort of this whole world,
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  Speaker 4: this podcast world, this 90 second clip world where we're
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  Speaker 4: consuming information and information in these clips.
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  Speaker 5: How did you you're so successful? How did just give
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  Speaker 5: me that background?
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  Speaker 8: What what how did that happen? I, you know, I
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: wish I could tell you that there's some great formula
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: that I figured out, you know, like how people say
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: they figure out winning the lottery. I am a notorious
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  Speaker 8: fly by the seat of my pants girl. I used
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  Speaker 8: to call myself impulsive and I have changed that mindset.
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  Speaker 8: And now I refer to it as being a quick
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  Speaker 8: decision maker, not impulsive, just a very quick decision maker.
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  Speaker 8: And it was, when I say I literally woke up
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  Speaker 8: one morning and said, I think I want.
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  Speaker 7: To do a podcast. Yeah, I'm going to do a podcast.
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  Speaker 8: And was, you know, getting the equipment and setting up,
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: you know, probably by that night. That is really the case. Now,
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: did the following all that stuff come overnight? Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 8: I've been plugging away at this for, if you want
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  Speaker 8: to count the books as part of the whole process,
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: we'll count that. So probably about 10, 12 years that
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  Speaker 8: I've been in this media realm and it's just, kind
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: of evolved and taken different shape. But the podcast really
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: started off just as an outlet and an avenue to
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: advocate for law enforcement families in particular.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: And it just kind of snowballed and grew.
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  Speaker 5: And you've written, what, 25 books? Is that right?
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So we're right around there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: It's a combination of children. I always say I grew
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  Speaker 8: up with my books. So I started writing children's books
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  Speaker 8: and then it moved into young adult fiction and then
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  Speaker 8: contemporary like contemporary women's fiction.
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  Speaker 7: And then and then lastly, our latest is nonfiction.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I, I, I have to say it again.
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  Speaker 8: I'm so blessed that I was just afforded the opportunity
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  Speaker 8: to have the time to be able to work on
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  Speaker 8: that the way that I was able to, um, you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: tons of credit and gratitude to my husband for just, um,
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  Speaker 8: you know, helping me make that a reality and just saying,
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  Speaker 8: you know what, I believe in you and I do it,
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  Speaker 8: just do it. And it was, uh, low and bold
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: who knew that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: This is where it would end up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: So people alluded earlier that people sort of get their
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  Speaker 4: information sometimes from these 15 second, 30 second, 90 second clips,
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  Speaker 4: which you provide and other. thousands of other people provide
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  Speaker 4: with less success than you. But this media evolution that
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  Speaker 4: we're undergoing right now, good, bad, your thoughts on just
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  Speaker 4: the generality of it. I mean, there's so many different
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: things going on, so many different places to consume information.
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  Speaker 4: Some of it's not even close to being factual.
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  Speaker 5: Some of it is. I mean, but what are your
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  Speaker 5: general thoughts on the new way that we sort of
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  Speaker 5: eat up stuff?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what, Leah, I think good and bad.
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  Speaker 8: I think just about with anything, there is good and bad.
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  Speaker 8: I think the good to come from it is the
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  Speaker 8: independent journalism, the ability for people to seek out and
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: share their own information rather than just being spoon fed,
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: whatever the, I call it the alphabet media, you know,
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  Speaker 8: whatever the alphabet media is feeding you today, you have
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  Speaker 8: this opportunity now to be an independent journalist and do that.
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  Speaker 8: And find out for yourself. And the bad of that
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: is literally the exact same thing, right? Where, you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: now you have all of these independent journalists, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: able to essentially do the same thing that the national
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  Speaker 8: media is doing, which is Give a slanted perspective, a
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  Speaker 8: biased perspective on a topic or an item or situation,
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  Speaker 8: whatever it might be. And, you know, any given number
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  Speaker 8: of people will hear that perspective and either take it
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  Speaker 8: or they'll argue with it. You know, I think overall,
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  Speaker 8: with specific regard to podcasting and independent journalism and I
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  Speaker 8: think it is overall a very good thing because the
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  Speaker 8: place we have gotten to and the place that we're
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  Speaker 8: at with half of the country, you know, the divisiveness
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  Speaker 4: And you sprinkle in AI and it becomes even it
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  Speaker 4: becomes a little bit more chaotic, I think.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know how we're going to handle that.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, we're talking. Can you stick around one more break?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: All right, fantastic. So we're going to stick around. We're
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  Speaker 4: going to keep Elsa one more break, and we'll come back,
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  Speaker 4: talk a little bit more about maybe some of the
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  Speaker 5: This is The War Zone. Wayne Allen Root is off.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be back tomorrow. I am the voice of freedom,
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  Speaker 4: Lee Elsie, filling in for Wayne. Our guest is Elsa Kurt,
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  Speaker 4: a dynamic American media personality. We are lucky to get
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  Speaker 4: a chance to chat with her. You know, Elsa, before
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  Speaker 4: we went to the break, I forgot. That's what I
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: do as I get older, I forget. But I wanted
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: to give everybody a chance to find out where you are.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Where do they find you? Where do they find the podcast?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Where do they find all the info?
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: The easiest way to find everything is ElsaCurt.com. It gives
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: you all of my links to all of my stuff
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  Speaker 8: and things, all the different platforms. I'm on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, X,
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  Speaker 8: you name it, YouTube, all of them, everywhere, all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Constantly.
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  Speaker 3: All the time.
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  Speaker 5: All I do. That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: You're doing pretty good. Let me ask you, we've talked
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: about this before. I wanted to ask you about No
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: King's Day and how did it impact you at all?
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  Speaker 4: Did you have anybody that you knew that went to
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: these rallies? Did you happen to stop by a rally?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on No King's Day?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I'm such a recluse. I try to avoid
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: going to pretty much everything. I know that sounded terrible,
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: but it's the truth.
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  Speaker 7: I can't lie.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I did not know until after the fact,
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: but I did know somebody who went. We are on
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: the opposite sides of the political spectrum there. And she
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: went and of course she thought it was wonderful and
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: delightful and we did not have much of a conversation
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: about it. So I can tell you what I saw
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  Speaker 8: from the tons of video and all of the examples
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: out there from different parts of the country. And the
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: best way I can sum it up is to call
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: it moral rot on full display, just moral decay.
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  Speaker 7: It was so... disheartening.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: I think that's the mildest way I could put it,
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: you know, and I try to not get angry as
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: much as possible. You know, I'm a Christian, so I
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: fully and 100% believe that God is in control and
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: he will make whatever evil.
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  Speaker 7: Go for good. He will make it for good.
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  Speaker 8: Um, so, you know, I, I try and keep my
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: head on as far as that is concerned, but you know,
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  Speaker 8: when you see something like, uh, and I'll, and I'll
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: call her out by name, Lucy Rodriguez, the elementary school
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: teacher who was caught on, on recorded, uh, simulating, uh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's, uh, assassination and smiling and just with glee and,
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  Speaker 8: If that doesn't sum it all up right there, and
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  Speaker 8: I know people are going to, you know, Ari goes, oh,
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: there was lots of peaceful protesters.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: I'm sure there were. I'm sure there were.
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  Speaker 8: But if this is what is representing you, I think
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: you should probably be. rethinking your alignments there. But yeah, very,
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  Speaker 8: very hard to watch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree with that a thousand percent.
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  Speaker 4: And a couple of things I took away, either you
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: had purple hair, blue hair or gray hair.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: It was one of the three. You didn't have... You know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: there wasn't a lot and there wasn't any diversity.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: That was the one thing that I noticed, too, which
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sure has to rub them the wrong way. You
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: couldn't see a black person anywhere in any of the
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: photos that I got a chance to watch or any
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: of the videos. So I don't know where they were,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: but they certainly weren't on board. with what that progressive
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: movement wants to push forward. Here in Connecticut, there was
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: a big ICE issue. I'm sure you've seen it where
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: ICE was told that they're deplorable and they're disgusting and
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: they need to tell the towns when they're coming to
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: round up the illegals.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on that?
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, the absurdity.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: I think we're all so sick and tired of these
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: blue haired liberals.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: And, you know, let's call it what it is. It's
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: typically these you.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: Know, middle-aged white women, white liberal women, you know, waving
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: their Starbucks around and their iPhone and telling you, you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: about oppression and your white privilege and all of those things.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: And it's just become such a caricature, but it, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: as far as it comes to our federal agents, you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: that is something that now that does.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: Make me angry. It makes me very angry because these
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: are people.
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  Speaker 8: Who are calling for, you know, the harm and the injury,
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: not only to these agents, but doxing them and harassing
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: their families and their children. This is a level of
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: just absolute abhorrence that cannot be accepted under any circumstances.
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: And I really want to see these people pursued aggressively
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: with the fullest extent of the law. And, you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: therein lies the difference between us and them is that,
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: you know, we call for just means they call for violence,
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: you know, and I just want accountability.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: And I think that's what we have to insist on.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: So and we're making great steps in that, you know, with,
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: you know, with Antifa being designated as.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: A terrorist group, as they very well should be. the
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: tolerance for.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: This behavior and these actions has to come to a
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: dead stop. And I know, you know, we're in a
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: liberal state. I know the odds of that are slim, but.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I, you listen, we keep fighting, we keep fighting
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: it out. And I think in this state in Connecticut,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I do feel like in particular, when it comes to
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: law enforcement, despite there are some detractors, I think it's
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: turned around significantly. Elsa, we got to run because the
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: music is playing, but one more time, tell everybody where
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: they can find you.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: Elsa, Kurt.com can find me over there and that'll send
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: you to all my other links.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Lee.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Let's do it again.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Well, next time we'll just have, we'll try to have
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: fun tell jokes for 30 minutes because sometimes the news
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: can be overwhelming and depressing, but thank you.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: So much for coming on tonight.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it very much.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Coming up after the top of the hour, I'm going
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: to jump into the deep end of the pool with.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: The no Kings rally.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about that. Then the bottom of
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: next hour, talk about law enforcement. We're going to have
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: law enforcement. Today's Kyle Reyes. with us at 735 Eastern.
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