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#189 - Unleashing the Power of Prayer in Evangelism (Part 2) - With Special Guest Kie Bowman · The OneCry Podcast

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  In Luke 24, after the resurrection, prior to the ascension, Jesus said,
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  Stay in the city until you've been clothed with power from on high.
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  So, Bill, you know and I know that every Christian has the Holy Spirit living in them.
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  You can't be a Christian if the Holy Spirit hasn't taken residence in you.
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  But I would ask our listeners, our viewers, do you believe that every Christian.
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  Music.
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  You know is clothed with power from on high?
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  Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
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  The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
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  Well welcome to the one cry podcast uh
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  here we are another day and i am with another of my dear friends uh kai bowman
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  kai it is so great to have you you were on our last podcast and it was so rich
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  and uh and thanks for joining us today thank you bill it's a honor to be a part of the one cry podcast.
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  I have tremendous admiration and affection for you as a leader and a brother.
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  So anytime we get to hang out, I always look forward to it. So thank you. It's a good day. Yeah.
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  Kai was pastor for 26 years of a great church in Austin, Texas,
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  which is, you know, it's interesting about Texas.
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  It's a very conservative state, except for Austin, right there at the Capitol,
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  and you and I have talked about this, and my how it needs, and it has in Austin
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  some great churches that God has used.
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  In fact, there's a citywide movement of prayer that you and Trey Kent helped
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  stimulate that is a model for the nation. We don't have time to get into all that.
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  You've written a book about it, and the title of that is City of Prayer,
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  right? Yeah, that our listeners ought to get and read about how united prayer
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  is so critical to the movement of God.
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  But we're talking in these podcasts about a new book that you've written that
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  I just think is one of the most important things we could talk about.
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  It's evangelistic prayer, how to engage the power of God with needy people through prayer.
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  And we don't always get there in our thinking.
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  Many of our listeners are people who love to pray, who think about prayer.
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  They love revival and they long for it.
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  But the fact of praying evangelistically and praying for lost people and the
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  movement of God among lost people somehow escapes us, Kai.
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  I don't know how that has happened. I think the devil is pretty good at clouding
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  our eyes about things, but you wrote this book, and it's causing a buzz and a stir in many hearts.
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  I want to talk about one component of this as we begin, and that's just the
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  role of the Holy Spirit in evangelism and in prayer.
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  Now, that's a big—you could write a book about that, right?
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  But you know what I'm saying?
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  Somehow we just think, well, maybe we just as a church, we get a few little
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  evangelistic methods or we'll have a little night or we'll do this little thing
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  and that's going to get the job done.
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  And we're missing the whole point. Would you talk to us about that just a bit?
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  Sure. Well, uh, I do have a chapter on one of the things we,
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  one of the prayers we need to pray when we're talking about evangelistic prayer
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  is prayer for the power and the power of the Holy Spirit upon our lives,
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  as well as the anointing of God upon our leaders, our pastors,
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  our missionaries, our evangelists, and, you know, others in our church.
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  Uh, you know, when, uh.
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  When Jesus rose from the dead, his disciples had been with him,
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  Bill, as you know, for at least three years, maybe three and a half.
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  And they were with Jesus for every sermon. They saw Lazarus raised from the dead.
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  They saw Jesus walk upon the water. They saw him heal the blind and cause the
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  deaf to hear and feed the 5,000 and the 4,000. I mean, every miracle.
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  In addition, they sat around the campfire with Jesus at night for private instruction
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  where he taught them things that, you know, maybe aren't even recorded in Scripture.
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  In other words, we're told just kind of in gloss that he prepared them to go
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  out and sent them out two by two.
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  So all that to say, when Jesus rose from the dead, he told them,
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  you're not ready to tell the story.
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  Now, think about it. Who in the world would be more ready to tell the story
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  than the eyewitnesses who had been with him from his baptism all the way to his resurrection?
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  Unfortunately, you've had to go to funerals of people you love, and I have too.
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  Unfortunately, you've presided over a lot of funerals for other people's loved
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  ones, and I have too. But we've never been to a funeral where on the third day
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  after the funeral, a knock came on the door and the person we buried was back.
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  But I guarantee you, if a person that we buried at a funeral or a loved one
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  that we stood and watched that casket be lowered, if they knocked on the door on the third day,
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  we would have our phones out and we'd be calling every friend.
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  We'd be texting everybody.
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  We'd be on X. we'd do a Facebook Live, we would be telling the world that our
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  friend was back and we have no explanation for it, but she's alive. He's alive.
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  That's just human nature, right? And nobody would have a better perspective
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  than us because we had been so close to that person.
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  Don't you think the apostles and the early disciples must have probably felt the same way?
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  Like, man, We've got a story to tell here. And Jesus said, hold up.
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  You're not even close to ready.
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  Why? Because you haven't been clothed with power from on high.
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  And you cannot tell this story until you have received the promise of the Father,
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  which I will send you not many days from now.
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  So the early church knew that as much as they wanted to go tell what they had
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  seen, they weren't empowered to do it. They had the knowledge.
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  They had the information.
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  They were eyewitnesses. They didn't have the power to make a difference.
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  And so they went into a prayer meeting that lasted 10 days.
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  And on the 10th day of their prayer meeting, fire started falling from heaven.
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  The sound like a hurricane blew through the
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  room and they started preaching the
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  gospel with so much power uh as you
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  mentioned last week in the podcast people's hearts
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  were so gripped the bible says they were cut
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  to the heart like a flaming spear had been or an arrow had been you know had
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  gone into their heart and they said what are we supposed to do we can't we got
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  to do something and 3,000 people were saved and integrated into their church
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  fellowship that very day.
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  But as I mentioned, I think last week, zero were saved from the resurrection
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  till Pentecost. None were recorded, not one.
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  3,000 were saved after they prayed and were filled with the power of the Holy Spirit.
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  So the dual, or I would say the triplicate theme of the book of Acts,
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  and I've written a book on Acts, but I'm not an expert on it.
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  Many people know more about it than I do.
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  But the triplicate, the three threads that run through the book of Acts are
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  prayer, the empowering of the Spirit, and evangelism.
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  And whenever you see people praying, me.
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  You will always in the book of Acts see a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit
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  and inevitably some great evangelistic effort or move takes place right after
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  it happens over and over and over again.
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  You can't ignore it after a while. So these three go together.
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  That's the heart of it. I mean, like you and every preacher worth his salt who's
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  preached the book of Acts, you know, I noticed one time there,
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  the Holy Spirit is mentioned, prayer is mentioned in almost every chapter.
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  The Holy Spirit is mentioned 59 times in 28 chapters.
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  It could really be renamed the Acts of the Holy Spirit, not the Acts of the Apostles.
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  Because that's the story. And the end result was evangelism.
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  Daily people multiply, the church multiply, the church group. Yeah.
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  Why is it that people are so afraid of the Holy Spirit?
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  The Holy Spirit is God. He's no less God, no different God than God the Father.
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  He's no less God or different God than God the Son.
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  They're one and the same. And now God comes to this new age that started at
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  Pentecost with signs and wonders, just like Jesus' birth had signs and wonders
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  to authenticate, you know, this is from God.
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  And he said, now we're moving into a new era where you will be indwelt.
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  I mean, Christ came and dwelt with us. Now every believer is going to be indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
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  And it uses this little phrase, Kai, that, and you just see it just over and
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  over, Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit,
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  and all the people were filled with the Holy Spirit.
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  Can you unpack for just a minute what that means?
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  And take the mystery away from it. It's not something we should be afraid of,
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  and it's something that we should pray for.
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  And it has this—and then I want to follow that up with a second question about
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  what is the correlation between this filling of the Holy Spirit and evangelism? Okay.
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  Well, let me go back to what we spoke about a moment ago in that—,
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  And God's apostles, Jesus' disciples, were not ready to share the story until
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  they had been empowered with the Holy Spirit. Right.
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  Well, 2,000 years have passed since the events of the cross and the resurrection and the miracles.
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  And we have all kinds of books, and we're surrounded by books on that subject.
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  But you and I never saw Jesus walk on the water. We didn't see Jesus transformed
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  on the Mount of Transfiguration.
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  We didn't see him crucified or raised from the dead. We've seen movies about
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  it, drawings. They saw it.
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  They experienced it. They were eyewitnesses. Well, if they were not ready to
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  preach and speak and witness without the Spirit, what makes me think I would be able?
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  Now, I can tell the story, but without an anointing, without empowerment.
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  Uh, so, you know, I tell the story in the book. It's an absolutely true story.
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  Uh, my dad, uh, when Tina and I first got married 43 years ago,
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  uh, we moved back to Alaska where I'm from for brief time before seminary.
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  And my dad drove a brand new baby blue metallic Cadillac with white leather roof.
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  I mean, it was big chrome. I mean, it was a beautiful car.
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  And some of our listeners may think that doesn't sound too great.
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  But in those days, it was about the sharpest thing on the road.
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  That was the top of the top right there.
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  It was the top of the top. So he went out of town. He said, you want to drive
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  my Cadillac? I said, yeah, absolutely.
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  Well, Tina and I just got married. We both had jobs, but I didn't have two nickels to rub together.
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  So I was going to go take Tina to lunch because she had whatever money we had, she had.
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  And she was at her work and I was at mine. I got in dad's Cadillac.
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  Well, that thing was practically out of gas.
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  And so I said, well, maybe I can make it to Tina's work because she's got money. We'll get some gas.
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  Well, I'm driving to her place of business where she worked.
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  And Bill, it's a true story.
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  Bright, sunny day, noon, rush hour traffic in my hometown, on Main Street of
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  my hometown, I run out of gas in a baby blue Cadillac with a white leather roof.
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  And I'm about half a block from the gas station.
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  The only thing I could do was get out and push that Cadillac to the gas station.
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  Can you imagine what people must have been thinking, the memes that would have
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  come out today if somebody would have taken a picture of that. Yeah.
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  I only had about a quarter to get gas. I was so broke.
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  If anything sort of embodies a picture of powerlessness, it's a guy pushing
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  a Cadillac into a gas station.
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  That probably had a 450 cubic inch engine and all the power in the world when it had gas.
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  But I had to push it to the gas station. Well, a Christian without the Holy
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  Spirit moving in a powerful way in her or his life is just like that Cadillac out of gas.
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  We may look good. We may have come from the right place. We may do really well
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  when, you know, under the right circumstances.
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  But if the Holy Spirit's not on us in a powerful way.
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  So let me, like you said, make it more simple.
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  What's the difference between the fact that everybody has the Holy Spirit living in them who's saved?
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  Because, you know, Paul said you can't even name Jesus as Lord without the Holy Spirit.
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  We know that everybody who is saved has the Holy Spirit living in them.
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  But, you know, in Ephesians 5.18, Paul said to the Ephesian church and to all
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  of us, be filled with the Spirit.
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  But Bill, he had mentioned the ministry of the Holy Spirit a minimum of nine
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  other times prior to him telling them to be filled with the Spirit.
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  So he wasn't talking some, you know, new idea.
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  The Holy Spirit wasn't a foreign concept to these believers at Ephesus,
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  nor is the Holy Spirit a foreign concept to us.
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  The Holy Spirit has a lot of ministries within the church that we're very aware of.
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  But Paul said, irrespective of all of that, regardless of all the other ministries
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  that you're aware of, you personally need to be filled with the Spirit.
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  And he uses an analogy, which is kind of a crude analogy on the surface.
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  He says, don't get drunk on wine. That leads to excess.
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  But by contrast, be filled with the Spirit. So it's almost as if he's saying,
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  In a bad way, what alcohol does to a drunk man, in a good way,
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  the Holy Spirit does to a Christian.
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  In other words, the fullness of the Spirit begins to control the believer.
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  Whereas like an alcohol controls a man who's had too much to drink,
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  the Holy Spirit begins to control in a very good way the believer.
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  Don't you think when he says that command to us, you be being filled with the Holy Spirit.
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  It's our responsibility. I mean, it's not like you're going to wake up tomorrow
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  and you're controlled by the Spirit of God.
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  You have to surrender control to the Spirit.
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  In fact, Bill, as you know, and you've probably written a book on this,
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  the verb form, be filled, is the imperative form of the verb,
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  which means it's a command.
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  The Spirit there himself, who's writing the book through Paul,
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  is commanding us to be filled with the Spirit. So it's not an option.
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  It's not just for evangelists or televangelists or seminary professors or the
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  pastor on Sunday morning to be filled with the Spirit. He's talking to a group
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  of believers in Ephesus, one of the wildest, wickedest cities in the whole Roman Empire.
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  And he's saying to this group of believers, I command you to be filled with the Spirit. Now.
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  There's a little passage over in Luke chapter 11. Then I'll just kind of pause
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  and see where you want to go.
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  In Luke chapter 11, Jesus tells us a little story. He says,
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  if you then being evil know how to give good gifts to your children,
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  how much more will the Father give the Holy Spirit to them who ask him?
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  So we're not, you know, I've read and I'm sure you have too.
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  I've read where really good pastors and thinkers say, the Holy Spirit won't
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  fill you until you're clean.
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  Stop. The Holy Spirit is the power that cleans us.
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  The Holy Spirit comes to those who ask for the power of the Spirit.
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  He brings the purity, the cleansing, and all the rest. In other words,
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  the mentality that somehow we get almost so perfect in our Christian life that
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  God just almost has to give us the Spirit. We deserve it.
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  We almost earned it. Forget it, man.
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  It is a gift. Just like when my first daughter, I'm thinking about her first
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  Christmas. We were in seminary in Fort Worth.
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  We had a brand new baby. We loved her so much we couldn't see straight.
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  She's a baby. She was born in January, so her first Christmas, she was 11 months old.
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  We bought her. We didn't have any money, but we bought her every gift we could
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  possibly buy her. She was 11 months old.
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  Of course, she liked the paper on the boxes more than what was in the box. She was a baby.
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  But we wanted to give her these gifts. And...
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  God wants to give us the Holy Spirit. Yeah.
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  He wants. Now, it's not that we don't have the Holy Spirit living in us.
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  But Jesus said this to the disciples. And I'm done.
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  In Luke 24, after the resurrection, prior to the ascension, Jesus said,
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  stay in the city until you've been clothed with power from on high.
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  So, Bill, you know and I know that every Christian has the Holy Spirit living
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  in them. You can't be a Christian if the Holy Spirit hasn't taken residence in you.
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  But I would ask our listeners, our viewers, do you believe that every Christian
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  you know is clothed with power from on high?
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  The answer to that is we know that's not the case.
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  So it's not that we're asking for a second work of grace or any of the types
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  of things that this might sound like.
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  We're asking for what God has promised that repeatedly, on a daily basis, even more than that,
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  God will fill us with his spirit in order to use us in evangelism,
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  in ministry, in knowing him.
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  Bill, every morning. And I've been doing this for I don't know how many years.
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  But every single morning when I get up for prayer and I never miss by God's
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  grace, I never miss my morning time with God.
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  The first prayer I pray, I don't know if you know this, the first prayer I pray
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  every morning, God, fill me with the Spirit.
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  First prayer. And in my prayer time, if I get to the end of my prayer list,
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  the last thing I pray, God, fill me with the Spirit.
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  And it's not a one and done deal.
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  It's just like the gas in that Cadillac. You got to keep on filling the tank.
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  And it comes by simply coming before the Lord and say, Lord,
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  I can't do this without you. I am powerless.
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  I'm unable. I need to be enabled. And God's filling the Spirit.
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  And I think, Paul, I think, you know, the connection, we're talking about evangelistic praying.
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  The connection here that is so critical for us to make in our minds is this
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  was the source of power that led to the results of people being saved.
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  I mean, Paul over and over again says, pray for power, pray for boldness.
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  The disciples prayed and the place was shaken and they were all filled with
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  the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God with boldness.
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  Paul comes and he says, I came to you not in persuasive words of human wisdom.
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  That's what you would do if you don't believe in the Holy Spirit,
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  if you're not praying and asking.
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  But I came in a demonstration of the Spirit of God and his power so that your
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  faith would not rest on me and my tricky manipulative means.
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  It would rest on the power of God. So if you don't understand this, and I want to tell you,
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  and Kai, you and I were talking just off camera about this,
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  that we know and we have watched many, many, many pastors and Christian leaders
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  who, by their own admission.
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  Will say, I'm not filled with the Holy Spirit. I don't know what that is.
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  I don't know how to do that. And I'm not praying.
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  And we wonder why the churches are powerless.
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  So if you're listening today and you would say that testimony,
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  you would say, I don't know what it is to be controlled by the Spirit of God,
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  to yield control to him every day.
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  Then find out.
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  And I want to tell you something. If you want to know how to be controlled by
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  him, he will tell you. He will show you.
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  Search out men and women that you know who walk in the power of the Spirit of God.
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  Neither one would say that's some unusual kind of fantastical thing.
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  It's to be the normal experience of the Christian life, to let God lead,
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  to let him flow through you like rivers of living water.
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  And, Kai, this is so rich today.
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  And we've touched on really the foundational core of this whole matter of evangelistic
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  praying. And there's so much more that is in your book.
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  They're just going to have to get the book, aren't they? They're just going
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  to have to get the book to read it.
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  And they can get it on Amazon or a prayer shop has it, all kinds of different
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  places. Christian book has the book.
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  Yeah. Christian book. Yeah. So we want to encourage them to do that.
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  You can download it on your Kindle or get a literal copy.
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  I want, Kai, for you to pray for the power of God to come upon our people for
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  the purpose of praying aright in terms of evangelistic praying,
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  but also just being filled and God using us in terms of his work in ministry
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  filled with the Holy Spirit.
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  So would you take a few minutes and pray for that for us?
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  Yeah, absolutely. Let's pray.
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  Lord, you sent your spirit in order to empower your church to further the ministry
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  of Jesus until Jesus comes again.
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  You don't want a powerless church You want an empowered church And so God you
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  have Provided your spirit And made your spirit available To us oh God And Lord.
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  Nobody is warmed with a fire that's gone out.
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  So, Lord God, we pray that the fire would burn within us.
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  Lord, if there is a hesitance or a fear that we would lose control.
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  Then in Jesus' name, remind us that our goal is not to be like Bill or I or
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  someone else they've seen.
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  Our goal is to know what it is to be filled with God and let all of God's spirit
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  take control of all of us, our heart, our soul,
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  our strength, our mind, motivated and empowered and mobilized by the power of the Holy Spirit.
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  We can't do what you've called us to do in the power of our networking,
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  in the power of our denominational strength, in the power of an experience we
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  had 10 years ago, in the power of our ingenuity, our scheming.
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  Lord, we need the power of God's Spirit. And God, I'm asking you in the name
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  of Jesus, fill me with the Spirit.
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  And Lord, I pray that if there's one person, 10 or 100 people listening right
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  now, who would say, I don't want to keep going like I'm going.
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  I'm firing blanks in the Christian life.
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  I need power. And I'm asking you now, fill me with the Spirit.
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  So, dear listener, if right now you want to be filled with God's Spirit,
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  just pray something like this.
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  Lord, I believe that Jesus is Lord, and I thank you for saving me.
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  I confess my sin, especially the sin of unbelief and the sin of selfishness.
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  Cleanse me, O God, and forgive me of every sin.
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  But I'm asking you now, Lord God, to come into my life in a powerful way via the Holy Spirit.
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  Holy Spirit, fill me now and use me, O God, however and wherever and whenever
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  you want to. Let me be, Lord, a tool in your hands, empowered by the Holy Spirit.
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  God, I cannot go on until you've empowered me and filled me with your spirit.
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  In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.
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  Amen. Amen.
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  I want to tell you something, Kai. If our listeners just got what you just prayed,
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  it would be worth everything we've done today and everything you've written and everything.
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  That's the key. It's the power. I believe that. And listeners,
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  I encourage you to pursue this and to get this book.
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  I'm going to detail in the book, of course.
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  Yeah. Isn't that great? Look at that. I think it's beautiful.
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  It's a group of people out of focus.
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  And that's exactly what it's like, just a mass of people.
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  But man, when we pray, God brings it all into focus and they become individuals.
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  We start seeing them saved.
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  Yeah, that's so beautiful. Well, get the book and more than that,
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  receive and experience the filling of the Holy Spirit and begin to pray laser
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  focused evangelistic prayers every day. and let's see what God will do.
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  Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Thanks for being with us.
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  And you're listening to me.
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  Music.