Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / The Psychology of Christmas Magic
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Just over two weeks to Christmas. Hello, welcome to the
- 0:08Speaker 1: Happy Families Podcast. I'm really excited today's episode. It's a
- 0:12Speaker 1: little bit different today. We're getting excited about psychology.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Kylie.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I can feel your thrill emanating around the podcast studio,
- 0:21Speaker 1: just hearing the words. You know, it's almost Christmas, right, Yes,
- 0:25Speaker 1: this is what I love to do across Christmas. I
- 0:27Speaker 1: love to pick up psychology textbooks literally textbooks, and I
- 0:31Speaker 1: can read so much of them across this nice quiet time.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Can you keep it to yourself?
- 0:37Speaker 1: I will after this very brief episode of The Happy
- 0:40Speaker 1: Family's podcast where I share with you the psychology of
- 0:44Speaker 1: Christmas magic. Why is it that we and our children
- 0:46Speaker 1: get so excited about Christmas? What are the things psychologically
- 0:50Speaker 1: speaking that are sources of Christmas joy?
- 0:54Speaker 3: Why does everything have to be scientific?
- 0:55Speaker 1: Because when you understand this stuff, you can actually literally
- 0:58Speaker 1: engineer Christmas to be more joyful.
- 1:01Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. Like if okay, right.
- 1:03Speaker 3: All right, I have a question, very merry, let's do it.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Okay, that's coming up next?
- 1:17Speaker 1: Good I Welcome to The Happy Families Podcast. Real parenting solutions,
- 1:20Speaker 1: every single day on Australia's most downloaded Parenting podcast. We
- 1:24Speaker 1: are Justin and Kylie cour and we parents have six kids.
- 1:26Speaker 1: We're so glad you're joining us as we enter the
- 1:28Speaker 1: Christmas season. How I'm feeling very jingly and jangly and
- 1:33Speaker 1: slay and Christmas y.
- 1:35Speaker 2: And I've been dipping into the research Kylie.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Today we're talking about the seven psychological sources of Christmas Magic.
- 1:41Speaker 1: That's what I have tentatively titled today's topic, which means
- 1:45Speaker 1: that we're going to go through a list of seven
- 1:47Speaker 1: things that make Christmas magical from a psychological standpoint.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Seven things I.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Could have kept on going, but I know that you're
- 1:54Speaker 1: only able to tolerate so much. And my goal is
- 1:57Speaker 1: to get through each of them in under a minute.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Unless you decide that you want to tell stories about them.
- 2:03Speaker 3: You're so funny, you're going to blame me when we
- 2:05Speaker 3: go over time.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Let's do the first one, because I'm not going to
- 2:08Speaker 1: get in trouble. It's Christmas. We want to get this
- 2:10Speaker 1: done right. We want people to just know what to do.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The central reason I think that Christmas is full of joy,
- 2:16Speaker 1: full of happiness, full of Christmas magic is relationships. Relationships
- 2:21Speaker 1: are number one. Christmas concentrates our most important relationships.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Whether you're in a.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Midnight gathering with friends, or whether you're reading books and
- 2:32Speaker 1: playing games or swinging in the pool with the kids,
- 2:34Speaker 1: or whether you're flying overseas to catch up with family,
- 2:38Speaker 1: hosting big Christmas parties.
- 2:40Speaker 3: The Magic Oh's writing Christmas cards to your friends.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Intentional togetherness. Christmas is about intentional togetherness. One of the
- 2:48Speaker 1: few times I think of the year that we genuinely
- 2:51Speaker 1: prioritize connection over productivity, which helps us to feel like
- 2:55Speaker 1: we belong. So that is the number one reason from
- 2:58Speaker 1: my point of view around this, Agree, disagree.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Agreed, Okay.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Number two.
- 3:03Speaker 1: The second one is I'm going to use some big words,
- 3:05Speaker 1: but then I'll make sure it makes sense. Anticipated joy
- 3:08Speaker 1: in temporal landmarks.
- 3:09Speaker 3: See that's why I set Christmas up on the first
- 3:12Speaker 3: of November. Yeah.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Anticipated joy.
- 3:15Speaker 3: It brings joy like it fills me with joy, and
- 3:19Speaker 3: it fills our home with joy. We just had friends
- 3:21Speaker 3: show up the other day and they literally walked in.
- 3:24Speaker 3: The daughter walked in before the mom yep, and she said, oh, mom,
- 3:28Speaker 3: you're going to want to see this, And they both
- 3:31Speaker 3: walked in and just went whoa. It's just amazing.
- 3:37Speaker 1: It feels so good, and you're talking about the fact
- 3:39Speaker 1: that the tree was upright.
- 3:40Speaker 3: That's right, that's all it was. It was just the tree.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Yeah, so anticipated joy.
- 3:44Speaker 1: It's more than that though, Like you've got this genuine
- 3:47Speaker 1: temporal or timestamped marker. It's this clear boundary in time
- 3:52Speaker 1: that says we can step out of ordinary life. Even
- 3:56Speaker 1: if it's just stepping into the living room and staring
- 3:57Speaker 1: at the tree. It changes your perception of priorities and
- 4:00Speaker 1: time and focus. The anticipation creates dopamine, like, don't mean
- 4:06Speaker 1: everyone's don't means the feel good chemical. No, don't mean
- 4:09Speaker 1: is the anticipation of good times chemical. And so because
- 4:14Speaker 1: we're wired to find pleasure and looking forward to experiences
- 4:19Speaker 1: that are rewarding, sometimes even more rewarding than.
- 4:22Speaker 2: The experience actually is.
- 4:25Speaker 1: That's why advent calendars and one more sleep until conversations,
- 4:30Speaker 1: that's all of.
- 4:31Speaker 3: This Christmas eve boxes.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing the presence under the tree, that's all psychological
- 4:38Speaker 1: scaffolding for optimism and positive emotion. You've got this anticipation
- 4:43Speaker 1: that joy is coming. So if you haven't put the
- 4:44Speaker 1: tree up, it's time to do it.
- 4:45Speaker 2: If you haven't.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Started doing Christmasy things, start doing them because those traditions
- 4:51Speaker 1: create the joy.
- 4:53Speaker 3: What's number three?
- 4:54Speaker 1: The third thing is again some big words, I'm so sorry,
- 4:57Speaker 1: sensory anchoring and memory. That means is, you know, when
- 5:01Speaker 1: you get a certain smell, that's a sensory anchor and
- 5:04Speaker 1: it ties in with that memory of that thing. And
- 5:09Speaker 1: so around Christmas time, I like, let's go Northern Hemisphere
- 5:13Speaker 1: for a second. If you smell the pine needles, you're like, oh,
- 5:16Speaker 1: that must be Christmas for us. It might be smelling cinnamon,
- 5:19Speaker 1: ginger beer, or it might be smelling sunscreen.
- 5:22Speaker 3: I don't even think it's about smelling. It might be tasting.
- 5:24Speaker 3: You have that amazing chocolate moose trifle every year at
- 5:29Speaker 3: Christmas time, and as soon as you take that first bite,
- 5:33Speaker 3: you know it's Christmas.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or.
- 5:35Speaker 1: If you have it a couple of weeks before Christmas
- 5:37Speaker 1: because you couldn't help yourself, and then you say, oh,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I can't wait for Christmas Day when I get to
- 5:41Speaker 1: do it again.
- 5:42Speaker 2: And so there's this, there's this.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Like you've got all of the different visual cues, like
- 5:48Speaker 1: the Christmas tree and the presence and Christmas lights, like
- 5:52Speaker 1: everyone goes out and looks at the Christmas lights. You've
- 5:54Speaker 1: got all the tactile experiences, like the different things that
- 5:58Speaker 1: you've like Christmas wrap being sorry, I just forgot things
- 6:01Speaker 1: that you touched that a Christmasy or the Sanda hat.
- 6:04Speaker 1: These are these powerful memory anchors and they get you
- 6:08Speaker 1: to do this mental time travel we go. I remember
- 6:10Speaker 1: when I was a kid, or I remember last year
- 6:12Speaker 1: when the kids got excited about this.
- 6:14Speaker 3: So we don't have it up here, but when we
- 6:16Speaker 3: lived in New South Wales, we had a Christmas bush.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I love the flowers of a Christmas
- 6:24Speaker 3: bush and whenever they would start to flower, I would
- 6:28Speaker 3: know Christmas as almost.
- 6:29Speaker 2: It comes Christmas so excited.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, that's exactly what I mean by sense reanchoring.
- 6:34Speaker 1: It was like when I see lavender and not lavender,
- 6:37Speaker 1: what do you call it?
- 6:38Speaker 2: Jack Aranda?
- 6:39Speaker 1: See the jacaranda in November, I'm like, oh, it must
- 6:41Speaker 1: be UNI exam time.
- 6:42Speaker 3: So you know, I heard a really cool story about
- 6:44Speaker 3: jack randas. Do you know why Sydney has so many
- 6:46Speaker 3: jack Arrandas.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Because somebody planted a whole lot of jacaranda.
- 6:49Speaker 3: There was a midwife who gifted every new mum a
- 6:54Speaker 3: Jackaranda sapling. Like and so they would go home and
- 6:57Speaker 3: plant their saplings. That's pretty yeah, back in the eighteen hundreds.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I'm not sticking to time at all here, So I
- 7:04Speaker 1: want to move this along. The third thing, I just
- 7:06Speaker 1: love this term. There's a guy called a mil dirkhim
- 7:08Speaker 1: sociologist from like one hundred hundred and fifty years ago.
- 7:11Speaker 1: A mil Dirk iime coined this term collective effervescence. And
- 7:15Speaker 1: what it really means is this sweps lemonade sweps.
- 7:26Speaker 3: That is that not that word.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It's the energy of the togetherness when everybody is in sync.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And Christmas is one of the very few times, at
- 7:39Speaker 1: least in our society where massive portions not everybody, of course,
- 7:43Speaker 1: but where massive portions of society all synchronize similar music,
- 7:49Speaker 1: similar decorations. Everyone's taking time off work. There's just this
- 7:54Speaker 1: shared rhythm of life, even with strangers, and it creates
- 7:57Speaker 1: belonging at a societ idle scale. Everybody's well, supposedly relaxed
- 8:04Speaker 1: on the roads and in the shop, so what have you.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Everybody's feeling good because it's some time out. So that's
- 8:10Speaker 1: collective effervescence from Durkheim, and I think that's another part
- 8:13Speaker 1: of the psychology of Christmas Magic. All right, we've got
- 8:15Speaker 1: four to go. After the break, we're going to whizz
- 8:17Speaker 1: through those. I promise we'll do them quickly. But again,
- 8:20Speaker 1: if we can practice these things, it makes Christmas more
- 8:23Speaker 1: magical for us.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Hence the podcast today.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Stay with us, we're back. It's the Happy Families Podcast.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Today we're talking about the psychology of Christmas magic.
- 8:38Speaker 3: You said there was four more? Do we only do three? Well?
- 8:41Speaker 2: Yeah, because you started talking me.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe you're blaming me. What's the number four?
- 8:48Speaker 2: So permission for wonder, Permission for wonder.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is like, as adults,
- 8:55Speaker 1: we're always so serious, we're always so efficient, we're always
- 8:57Speaker 1: focused on the here and now, the concrete. The real
- 9:00Speaker 1: Christmas gives an opportunity for abstraction and magical thinking and
- 9:03Speaker 1: play and childlike wonder, which are things that we normally
- 9:06Speaker 1: suppress as adults. They're things that we're not really that
- 9:08Speaker 1: focused on. We get to believe in magic, we get
- 9:11Speaker 1: to talk to the kids about magic. We get to
- 9:13Speaker 1: create elaborative narrative elaborative elaborate narratives that I've argued for
- 9:19Speaker 1: years that we shouldn't around Santa. And now I don't
- 9:23Speaker 1: know why, but I've softened as I've gotten older, and i'm.
- 9:25Speaker 3: It's because your granddad.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Maybe maybe.
- 9:28Speaker 3: The other day, we had our two year old granddaughter
- 9:32Speaker 3: come over and I had put together a small box
- 9:35Speaker 3: for her, and when I thought about when I would
- 9:39Speaker 3: give it to her, I realized if I waited till
- 9:40Speaker 3: Christmas Day, then all the Christmas outfits and Christmas books
- 9:45Speaker 3: were kind of You're so bad, it's going to be
- 9:47Speaker 3: a one day.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I guess this an awesome Christmas present that you've given
- 9:50Speaker 1: to her at the start of December.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't help myself, but was so gorgeous. So
- 9:56Speaker 3: gorgeous is this little two year old She saw this
- 9:59Speaker 3: basket coming towards to her, and her whole face lit
- 10:02Speaker 3: up and she was like, oh me, And then she
- 10:06Speaker 3: asked if she could open it, and we opened it up,
- 10:09Speaker 3: and what I expected was just for her to just
- 10:12Speaker 3: pull everything out. She pulled a book out, and she
- 10:15Speaker 3: literally sat there and read this whole book to herself
- 10:19Speaker 3: and then finished that and looked and send it my
- 10:21Speaker 3: way and said, oh done, And she pulled out the
- 10:24Speaker 3: next book and she was halfway through and I said,
- 10:26Speaker 3: would you like Wally to read it to you? And
- 10:28Speaker 3: she said, no, Indy do it herself. And she read
- 10:32Speaker 3: that book. There was five books. She read each book
- 10:34Speaker 3: one by one.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it took us about forty minutes to open the box.
- 10:37Speaker 1: So that leads into the next one that I want
- 10:39Speaker 1: to read. And I've gone out of order and I
- 10:41Speaker 1: think we've lost count. So I'm just going to save
- 10:43Speaker 1: the next one. And that is savoring and gratitude. Savoring
- 10:48Speaker 1: and gratitude. There's a guy called Fred Bryant. He did
- 10:51Speaker 1: this really cool research back in about the nineteen nineties
- 10:55Speaker 1: and he found that when we save something, that is
- 10:57Speaker 1: when we amplify and magnify the positive experience of an experience.
- 11:02Speaker 1: When we extend that moment, we find more joy. Savoring
- 11:08Speaker 1: is one of the best ways to be happy. And
- 11:10Speaker 1: as I sat there watching that happen, I just saved it.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I didn't say a word. I sat there for forty
- 11:16Speaker 1: minutes and literally didn't talk. I just sat in the couch,
- 11:19Speaker 1: did the grandpa thing and watch this little granddaughter sit
- 11:22Speaker 1: on your lap and read books and pull things out
- 11:25Speaker 1: of the box one at a time and spend five
- 11:27Speaker 1: or six or seven minutes with each gift before she
- 11:29Speaker 1: went to the next.
- 11:30Speaker 2: One, and I just thought, oh, my goodness, this is.
- 11:34Speaker 3: And she wasn't being coached, That's what I loved about it.
- 11:36Speaker 3: This was just she was just in autonomously her.
- 11:39Speaker 1: But this is this is the magic of Christmas. This
- 11:42Speaker 1: is where time slows down. This is where we sit
- 11:45Speaker 1: in gratitude, This is where we savor would I would
- 11:49Speaker 1: define it as follows. Christmas is culturally sanctioned slowness, and
- 11:56Speaker 1: we all talk about how life is too fast. But
- 11:59Speaker 1: my goodness, if we can just anticipate and then be
- 12:02Speaker 1: present and then reminisce rather than rush through, we get
- 12:06Speaker 1: to savor it and it feels so good. Savoring is
- 12:10Speaker 1: the practice of grateful attention. And I can't wait for
- 12:13Speaker 1: Christmas Day now so that we can savor that day
- 12:15Speaker 1: as well.
- 12:16Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, we talked about this idea
- 12:19Speaker 3: of giving ourselves permission to let go of the things
- 12:23Speaker 3: that don't bring us joy and just focus on the
- 12:27Speaker 3: things that do. And too often we kind of fill
- 12:30Speaker 3: our Christmas season up with so much that it's hard
- 12:34Speaker 3: for us to slow down and actually savor the moments
- 12:36Speaker 3: we feel really ragged, time, poor, money, poor, the whole bit.
- 12:40Speaker 3: And I think that just remembering that this is actually
- 12:45Speaker 3: a time for us to slow down and to actually
- 12:47Speaker 3: really savor those things that matter makes such a huge
- 12:50Speaker 3: difference to the way we celebrate.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:52Speaker 1: So I don't know how many we've done, and I've
- 12:54Speaker 1: crossed one off the list anyway, because I've decided that
- 12:56Speaker 1: our time is up and we just need to go
- 12:57Speaker 1: and get ready to save a Christmas and be efficient
- 13:00Speaker 1: and effective so that we can slow down and literally
- 13:03Speaker 1: enjoy that culturally sanctioned slowness of Christmas. I believe that
- 13:08Speaker 1: with these ideas you can have an empirically valid, scientifically backed, joyful.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Magical Christmas. And how good does that sound? Aren't you excited?
- 13:20Speaker 3: I just go you you.
- 13:23Speaker 1: But the thing is, we do it automatically, like this
- 13:26Speaker 1: is the science that underpins why Christmas feels so good.
- 13:28Speaker 1: And if your Christmas sucks, like literally, and I'm not
- 13:32Speaker 1: trying to be rude, I'm not trying to be disrespectful
- 13:35Speaker 1: or any of those things. If your Christmas is not
- 13:38Speaker 1: looking good or feeling good, these ideas will change it right.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Focus on relationships, focus on savoring and gratitude, focus on wonder,
- 13:47Speaker 1: focus on collective effervescence, and focus on the anticipated joy.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Finding ways that you can create sensory anchors and bring
- 13:55Speaker 1: those into your home, whether it's trees or gifts, or
- 13:59Speaker 1: smells or drinks. Like we only have ginger beer on
- 14:03Speaker 1: Christmas Day, right, the kids only have ginger beer on
- 14:06Speaker 1: Christmas Day in their stockings. That's the Christmas thing, right,
- 14:09Speaker 1: That's that sensory anchor. And so if your Christmas isn't
- 14:13Speaker 1: looking great, but you can pull some of these things in.
- 14:16Speaker 1: This is where science shows us that we can make
- 14:18Speaker 1: our lives better.
- 14:19Speaker 2: And that's really why I wanted to share it.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Whether you're going to have a great Christmas or you're
- 14:22Speaker 1: kind of dreading it, this can make it better either way.
- 14:26Speaker 3: For some families that the idea of connection and spending
- 14:31Speaker 3: time with our loved ones can be really challenging. I
- 14:34Speaker 3: just think it's really important that we just focus on
- 14:36Speaker 3: the relationships that are going to bring us joy. Whether
- 14:40Speaker 3: they're blood related or not is irrelevant. It's an opportunity
- 14:45Speaker 3: for us to celebrate building and sustaining loving, strong relationships
- 14:51Speaker 3: in our lives.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I'm just so impressed with my Christmas is culturally sanctioned slowness.
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