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Brewsers #349- Betsabe Esparza & Dylan with Black Widow MMA · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers podcast about beer, coffee, booze and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Rudy John and today we talked
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  Speaker 1: to bet Sabi Esparza and Dylan with Black Widow Mma.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about how Black Widows started training the next
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  Speaker 1: generation and so much more. Black Widow MMA is doing
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  Speaker 1: absolutely incredible things and I can't wait for y'all to
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  Speaker 1: find out more about them because they're straight here from
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  Speaker 1: the Data Texas. So without further ado, here is Black
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  Speaker 1: Widow Mma. I would like to welcome the show Black
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  Speaker 1: Widow MMA out of Austin.
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  Speaker 2: Harry. Y'all doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Doing great?
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  Speaker 4: How about yourself doing well?
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  Speaker 1: So for those listening kind of just yeah, say your
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  Speaker 1: name so we know who is talking and who we're
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  Speaker 1: talking to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is Betsa bez Barissa. I am the owner
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  Speaker 5: and head coach at Blackwodow.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in Mad And then this is Dylan Diggerson. I
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  Speaker 4: am a assistant coach and coach and fighter at Blackwood.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Well for those again listening to kind of paintings the
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  Speaker 1: word picture where you guys at what's going on around
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  Speaker 1: you right now?
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  Speaker 4: We just came in.
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  Speaker 5: We're in between classes, which is nice. Dylan just finished
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  Speaker 5: teaching some of his MMA grappling skills. That's one of
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  Speaker 5: the things that he teaches. He also helps with the
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  Speaker 5: kids class. So we just finished that and then we
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  Speaker 5: got some jiu jitsu up in a little while. So
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  Speaker 5: we're just hanging out waiting for a couple of events
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  Speaker 5: that we got going on this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, love that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go while way back in time. What is
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  Speaker 1: y'all's earliest memory of martial arts?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, I guess I'll go first, earliest memory.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm unique in that I didn't watch any
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  Speaker 4: martial arts before I started training, So my earliest memory
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  Speaker 4: would have to be when I was fifteen, about four
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  Speaker 4: almost five years ago. I stepped in I saw this
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  Speaker 4: gym for the first time. My mom told me to
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  Speaker 4: take a class. I stepped in, and I just remember
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  Speaker 4: seeing like a couple, like, you know, the toughest dudes
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  Speaker 4: I ever thought, in my opinion, seeing just ads hitting
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  Speaker 4: each other. And I didn't know what I was in for.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, what are you trying to sign
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  Speaker 4: me up for? And I remember being quite intimidated to start.
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  Speaker 4: But then I got in and my first class was
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  Speaker 4: the jiu jitsu class, so no hitting anyone yet, and
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  Speaker 4: it was a good transition for me. And I remember
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  Speaker 4: doing that first class, and I don't remember the class
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  Speaker 4: because I was so nervous the whole the time, but
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  Speaker 4: I remember afterwards some my mom like, Hey, I want
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  Speaker 4: to I want to be serious about this. I want
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  Speaker 4: to keep doing this. So that's my earliest memory.
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  Speaker 3: Very cool. Yeah, it's crazy to think he started with
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  Speaker 3: us when he was.
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  Speaker 5: A kid and now it's we're about five years in
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  Speaker 5: and he's about to go and fight his first amateur
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  Speaker 5: multi fight. He's done his amateur MMA debut already, and
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  Speaker 5: this is a kid who does it all, which is
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  Speaker 5: really cool. So it is fun to see that as
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  Speaker 5: you're doing this job. But for me, my earliest memory
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  Speaker 5: i'd have to do with anything regarding martial arts.
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  Speaker 3: I'd probably just.
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  Speaker 5: Say it was when I was a kid, I would
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  Speaker 5: watch boxing with my grandpa.
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  Speaker 3: We would sit around and we would watch.
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  Speaker 5: His favorite was, you know, Julio Sachavis, and so any
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  Speaker 5: time he was fighting, we'd watch him and it was
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  Speaker 5: really exciting for me to just get to see it
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  Speaker 5: and understand it.
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  Speaker 3: And I love the excitement behind it.
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  Speaker 5: I love that they would like yell at the TV
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  Speaker 5: and get excited and you know talk talk SMAC about some.
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  Speaker 3: Of the other fighters.
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  Speaker 5: And so from there just started to kind of really
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  Speaker 5: get into it and even like the quote unquote fake.
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  Speaker 3: Wrestling and maybe I'll get some some you know shit
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  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: But pro wrestling, you like the term progress.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: My great grandpa used to watch that too, so I
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  Speaker 5: would watch that with him on the weekend. So it's
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  Speaker 5: like even now then I do this, that's my favorite
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  Speaker 5: thing to watch. Like, I don't really watch anything else
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  Speaker 5: whenever I'm home, Like my TV is off like the
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  Speaker 5: majority of the time, and if it's on, it's usually fighting.
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  Speaker 3: I'll watch something.
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  Speaker 5: I'll put on like, you know, Goolden Arrow, muy Thai,
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  Speaker 5: I'll put on boxing, I'll put on you know, anything
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  Speaker 5: that I can watch with violence, because it's.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I just grew up watching it. So it's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: But would have never thought I'd end up as a
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  Speaker 5: coach in you know, martial arts. So it's just a
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  Speaker 5: fun thing for me to watch people get beat up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Dana White has said it right where
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  Speaker 1: even no matter what country you're from, everyone understands fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone understands. It's just that in our nature, it's in
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  Speaker 1: our DNA. Like you know, if two people are in
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  Speaker 1: front of each other and they're actually you know, fighting
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  Speaker 1: each other, we have a good grap or grasp as
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  Speaker 1: to what they're doing and how who's winning and who's losing.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, obviously with mixed martial arts, you could
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  Speaker 1: be on the bottom and still be winning. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's but fighting has always kind of just been an rDNA.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, completely agree.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so how did Black Widow begin?
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  Speaker 3: So it technically started in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 5: So before that, there was another gym that I was
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  Speaker 5: helping at, so I was an assistant coach at the time.
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  Speaker 5: I was trying to just get fights for myself and
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  Speaker 5: it was really hard because there weren't a lot of girls.
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  Speaker 5: There are a lot of female fights in the US, especially
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  Speaker 5: for Muay Thai, which is what I wanted to do,
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  Speaker 5: and so several fights had fallen apart.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Be even on like a reality TV show in Thailand
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  Speaker 5: and it was kind of Yeah, it was a cool
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  Speaker 5: concept because it was going to be ten female fighters
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  Speaker 5: and then ten male fighters and they would split them
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  Speaker 5: up into four different camps, so some would go to
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  Speaker 5: the North, some would go stay in Bangkok, some would
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  Speaker 5: go to Puquet and all that fun stuff, and then
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  Speaker 5: at the end they would all meet and kind of
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  Speaker 5: show like who was the superior camp, you know, because
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  Speaker 5: each side has its own unique style. But the Northern
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  Speaker 5: camp couldn't agree to have girls on train there. They
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  Speaker 5: were just like, no, we don't train women like at all,
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  Speaker 5: and so they scrapped the entire female team for that
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  Speaker 5: and just did not let any of the girls onto
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  Speaker 5: this show.
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  Speaker 3: Which was terrible.
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  Speaker 5: The other coach got to go and so he got
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  Speaker 5: to fight and everything, but I wasn't able to. So
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  Speaker 5: I was kind of up said about that. But at
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  Speaker 5: the time, that's all I was focused on, So I
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  Speaker 5: had no idea that I was gonna, you know, end
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  Speaker 5: up as a coach. I was helping the best I
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  Speaker 5: could because I love that part of it too. As
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  Speaker 5: one of the few females, you know, usually in class,
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  Speaker 5: I would try to get as many girls in there.
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  Speaker 5: I help with the fighters at the time, all that
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  Speaker 5: fun stuff. So then me and the coach were in
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  Speaker 5: a relationship and that didn't work out fortunately, and so
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  Speaker 5: when we split, he's like, you know what, I don't
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  Speaker 5: want this gym.
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  Speaker 3: I guess maybe that show really got to his head
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  Speaker 3: or something, because he's.
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  Speaker 5: Like, all I want is like pro fighters, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be training a bunch of these hobbyists
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  Speaker 5: and you know, this is a waste of my time
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  Speaker 5: and talent and this kind of thing. And so he's like,
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  Speaker 5: you take the gym, and so I was like, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's not really what I planned on doing.
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  Speaker 5: But at the time too, since we split, I had
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  Speaker 5: like I was only working at the gym, didn't have
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  Speaker 5: a place to stay, like nothing.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, like I'll take it. And
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  Speaker 3: so took over.
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  Speaker 5: In twenty eighteen, and the time we only had like
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  Speaker 5: maybe twelve to fourteen students, and so we grew really
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  Speaker 5: really quick.
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  Speaker 3: Once I took over, a lot of people started coming.
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  Speaker 3: We got a lot more.
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  Speaker 5: Girls, we got a lot of you know, just different
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  Speaker 5: people from all over the place coming and joining the gym.
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  Speaker 3: We grew to.
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  Speaker 5: About sixty in that location, and we just didn't fit.
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  Speaker 5: So then I was like, you know what, let's let's
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  Speaker 5: do this on our own. And I didn't really get
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  Speaker 5: along with the other coach that was there too, the
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  Speaker 5: jiu jitsu program. So I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we could kind of do it on
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  Speaker 5: our own, and so started looking up places and found
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  Speaker 5: my own and I was like, you know what, the
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  Speaker 5: name doesn't the former name doesn't make sense, and so
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  Speaker 5: I decided to rename it, and we started up in
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  Speaker 5: twenty nineteen and we've blown up quite a bit since then.
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  Speaker 5: We now just moved to our bigger location. We're at
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  Speaker 5: over like two hundred and twenty five students. We've got
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  Speaker 5: fighters of all levels, like it's it's a really cool thing.
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  Speaker 5: And that was one of the things because he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I want to have all these pro fighters. And then
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  Speaker 5: when I took over, he would, you know, talk, He's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: you're not going to have.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody legit under you.
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  Speaker 5: They all know you know, you never thought you weren't
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  Speaker 5: good enough, you can't coach anybody. And I'm like, m,
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  Speaker 5: well you were wrong. So yeah, and that's how it
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  Speaker 5: all kind of came about. Was absolutely kind of accidental,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so, but it's.
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  Speaker 3: Worked out well.
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  Speaker 5: It pressured me more to really make this successful because
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  Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I really love this
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  Speaker 5: and I want to make it. You know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: what I planned, but since I have it, it's maybe
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  Speaker 5: meant to be and I gotta just run with it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad that you were able to wave
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  Speaker 1: through all that, you know, negativity and the you know,
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  Speaker 1: I only want profilers or you're not gonna make it,
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  Speaker 1: or just all this, you know, the negativity that was
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  Speaker 1: thrown at you even before the whole thing even started.
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  Speaker 1: So and then you know you've grown so much that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, congratulations on that.
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  Speaker 2: That is that is huge.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the elephant in the room, as timeline wise,
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  Speaker 1: is you guys opened in twenty nineteen. How did twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty go for y'all?
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  Speaker 5: So that was actually it was not as hard as
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  Speaker 5: it seemed, because for me, I was even more motivated.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, man, like, this sucks. But we also
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  Speaker 5: had a really good community we always have. I think
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  Speaker 5: that's one of the things that really separates us. And
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  Speaker 5: so when that happened, you know, we had a group
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  Speaker 5: message like a group chat, right, and so I put
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  Speaker 5: it on there and I was like, hey, guys, like,
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  Speaker 5: there's nothing we.
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  Speaker 3: Can do about this, you know, we'll figure it out
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  Speaker 3: as we go.
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  Speaker 5: And it was like immediately just messages and support back,
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  Speaker 5: like no, coach, we got this. We want this to continue.
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  Speaker 5: Please don't cancel my membership. As long as I can
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  Speaker 5: keep paying it. I'm going to keep paying it because
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  Speaker 5: I want this to be there once COVID.
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  Speaker 3: Is over, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was like all right, cool. But on
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  Speaker 5: my end too, I was like, man, I'm not just
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  Speaker 5: gonna take this.
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  Speaker 3: Money for free.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So we started coming up with all these creative
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  Speaker 5: ways to keep ourselves connected because it was a really
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  Speaker 5: isolating time and we were so used to getting trained
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  Speaker 5: really hard and you know, be together, and it was
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  Speaker 5: like literally all.
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  Speaker 3: The things we liked doing we couldn't do.
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  Speaker 5: Like you can't breathe the top of each other, you
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  Speaker 5: can't you know, sweat around one another, you.
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  Speaker 3: Can't be close, and it's like that's what we do,
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  Speaker 3: and so it was really it was really hard.
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  Speaker 5: So we started doing online classes and we got really creative.
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  Speaker 5: Like I remember one class we had everybody make their
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  Speaker 5: own grappling dummies using a hoodie and like pillows and
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  Speaker 5: like you stuff this hoodie with like h.
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  Speaker 3: To the brim right so that way it's shaped like
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  Speaker 3: a body.
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  Speaker 5: And then from there we would be on zoom teaching
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  Speaker 5: you how to do an arm bar, how to do
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  Speaker 5: a choke, like using your little like pillow man that
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  Speaker 5: we created. So it was like creating our own grappling dummies.
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  Speaker 5: And so we did things like that. We had happy
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  Speaker 5: hours online with the students just to kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: get creative and help them with diet plans and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So everything that we could do we did so that
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  Speaker 5: we still stayed engaged, and so very very few people
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  Speaker 5: canceled their membership and we were able to just make
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  Speaker 5: it through. And then we started doing like social distancing
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  Speaker 5: classes and like classes outside.
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  Speaker 3: We did everything we could to try.
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  Speaker 5: To just keep it going. And yeah, I didn't feel
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  Speaker 5: like it was too too difficult on us because we
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  Speaker 5: were able to, you know, pay our rent. We were
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  Speaker 5: able to keep everything going, and we lost very very
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  Speaker 5: few students to it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that so much.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you guys got creative. Well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that magic word pivot that everybody had to learn during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic that you know, obviously you guys did with
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  Speaker 1: the online classes and then I love the idea of
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  Speaker 1: making your own grappling dummy out of just a hoodie
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  Speaker 1: and you know, some pillows which.
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  Speaker 4: Sort ooh oh okay, staying oh okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron went down the wrong pipe. Yeah, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: I imagine people had like body pillows that they were
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  Speaker 1: already using.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, it was really easy to kind of make
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  Speaker 5: that work. And even the kids like really enjoyed doing
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  Speaker 5: that too. And you know, one of the groups, they
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  Speaker 5: had like four kids that used to come in and
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  Speaker 5: train their siblings and so they guys are practiced with
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  Speaker 5: each other, but still wanted to make their little pillow
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  Speaker 5: friend to be able to choke out and do all
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  Speaker 5: that too.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I love that so much as I'm still dying over here. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of kids, you guys teach from kids
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  Speaker 1: to adults. What have you seen in the kids now
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  Speaker 1: that you wish you would have seen when you were
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  Speaker 1: younger getting into the sport?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dylan, anything you want to add.
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  Speaker 4: To that, I mean, let me see. Yeah, because as
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  Speaker 4: part of my duties here, I help our profile Johnny
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  Speaker 4: teach the kids' classes from Monday to Thursday, and I
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  Speaker 4: will say, I mean, for one, you see a tremendous
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  Speaker 4: amount of growth from kids nowadays. I feel like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what it is. They feel more dedicated. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a kid myself. I can't speak too much to it,
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  Speaker 4: but I definitely you see a big difference in ones
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  Speaker 4: that are truly committed. Like we have a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: students here now, and there's more you can tell, all right,
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  Speaker 4: this is just selling their parents want them to get
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  Speaker 4: into and like just try it out and it's fun
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  Speaker 4: for them and it's like a hobby. But then there's
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  Speaker 4: others where you can genuinely see the commitment, you can
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  Speaker 4: see the drive in them to where like they want
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  Speaker 4: to learn how to do this, they want to learn
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  Speaker 4: how to whether it's you know, for personal reasons, they
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  Speaker 4: want to learn how to defend themselves, take care of themselves,
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  Speaker 4: just feel safer. And then there's some where it's like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I want to do this for real. I
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  Speaker 4: want to make a maybe not a career, but I
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  Speaker 4: want to get fights. I want to do this, And
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  Speaker 4: it is really incredible to see that on a child level.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about some are like eight year olds that
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  Speaker 4: like have a driver that I don't see from adults,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and sometimes they listen better than adults. Not
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  Speaker 4: all the time, but sometimes they do take infermission in
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  Speaker 4: a little bit better than some people that come in
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  Speaker 4: and just want to get a fight and just want
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  Speaker 4: to you know, do crazy stuff they see on TV.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think from the kids we have here,
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  Speaker 4: I am I've been consistently impressed by the dedication. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what I have to say.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think, coach, I think for me, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: just the female aspect I think is huge because growing
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  Speaker 5: up I used to want to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like any kind of the time.
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  Speaker 5: We only had like taekwond or something in our little
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  Speaker 5: tiny town that was the only martial art. But I
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  Speaker 5: was like, I want to do that, and my parents
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  Speaker 5: were like, no way, that's not for girls.
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  Speaker 3: And same thing with all sports.
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  Speaker 5: I was also just like really skinny, and so my
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  Speaker 5: dad would be like, no, I don't want you to
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  Speaker 5: play any sports. You're gonna do music instead, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm worried you're gonna get hurt.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think now the narrative has changed.
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of parents do want
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: to see their girls in sports for a lot of reasons.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: It does make them stronger, it makes them more confident.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Even if it's like one of these things if they
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: are little, teaching them jiu jitsu, it's like they suddenly
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: get to flip the script and it's like sometimes being
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: smaller is more efficient and helpful in the sports. So
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: it's one of those things where that I feel like
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: that's really changed. And so it's getting more and more
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: girls into the sport and one of the things, you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: not to knock on men, but like they definitely listen
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: a little better than the boys too. I can agree
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: with that, and so you see them capture these concepts
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: so quick sometimes too, and again particularly in jiu jitsu,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: because I feel like that's you know, we always make
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: that comparison that's the chess of all sports, you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: of all combat sports, and so definitely a lot more
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: complicated and you see where they can pick up these
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: things and like break down those little pieces. So it's
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: really cool to see more and more girls stepping into this.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: It's not something that I would have ever seen growing up,
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: you know, it was it's really it's really cool to
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: see that change.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, yeah, I mean, I know, I I was
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: in Taekwanda when I was a kid, and I think
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: that everybody, no matter you know, what age you are,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: need to try martial arts at some point because it's
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: just getting that discipline and also that a little bit
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: extra of all Right, I feel better because a lot
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: of people get anxious whenever they're out in public and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: they think, especially with the world we live in now,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: where they think something's gonna happen or whatever, or I
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: might get mugged, especially if you're a woman or whatever
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: it is. But you need that little extra Okay, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: feel confident enough or I don't feel afraid just to
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: go outside or be in a giant public area or whatever.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: But then it's you know, especially with the kids, it's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: that little area of discipline that they learned early that
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: they can really hopefully continue and take on to the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: rest of their life.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, of course I agree with that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Well, so tell us about the MMA Gladiators.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a really fun concept that I feel.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Like Janelle, who's the executive producer, she's kind of had
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: in her mind for quite some time.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: We met way back when, I mean like probably.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Like twelve years ago, maybe even earlier than that, because
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: it was like right at the beginning of my martial
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: arts training. So once I started, I was doing way
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: tie and boxing and then like fitness classes and all
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, and so she was producing other
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: reality shows and so it's a lot of martial.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Arts based productions that she does.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: So I remember connecting with her way back then, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: then she would tell me about different show ideas that
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: she had and things that we worked on. I think
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: it was like America's Fit of CEO was one of
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: the ones that she worked on first. And so you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: we've kept in touch over the years, and she's been
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: you know, a great cheerleader and all of this, always
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: you know, rooting for what I'm doing, which is really
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: helpful to have another woman in martial arts kind of
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: be in your corner and tell you that you're doing
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: a great job. It makes me feel really good about,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: you know, where we're heading. And so it's kind of
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: one of those things where it's like, yeah, let's get together,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: let's do something, let's chat, let's you know, figure something out.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: And so finally we just you know, decided to pull
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: the trigger on it, and she's like you know, I've
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: had this concept for this show. It's you know, more
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: gear towards like getting the amateurs a little bit more
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: exposure into a bigger platform. And she's like, I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: that would be great with what you do, and you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: we've got the team to be able to make it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And so this show is going to be very similar
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: to a lot of other reality shows where it's like
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: that competition aspect of like who is the best?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And I love.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: When, you know, I grew up in the era of
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: like reality TV, so I definitely got to see some
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: of that, and I like those concepts because it's not
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: always just about who's best. Sometimes it's about you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: who has the most heart, who has the most drive,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: who's the most marketable. And I feel like all of
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: those things still apply whenever it comes to fighting, not
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: just in like media, and I think those are concepts
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that sometimes we forget, you know, And I feel it's
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: like one of two things. I think currently there are
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: too many people without talent that are out there putting
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: their stuff on social media and they get enough clout
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, well I'm a fighter now, and
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: all of us that do this, we're like hmm, are
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: you though, you know, but they get the platform, they
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: get the fans, and they get the fights and all
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: this kind of stuff because they've got the support behind it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: And then you have the very legitimate fighters who are like, oh.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. There's no way, like
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I'm way too.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Much of a disciplined, you know, serious fighter to go
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that route. And I feel like this show is a
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: good way to kind of marry those two things and
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: have it where we're teaching them some of these things
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: that do matter, you know, how to be able to
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: market yourself, how to be able to get out there
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: and show that you're not just talent, but that you
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: have something to offer to the public.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: So it's a lot about the behind the scenes too.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: It would get to interview these fighters and so they'll
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: showcase their skills, which is absolutely you know, what we're
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: after and making sure that they can fight and do well,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: but we get to see a lot more of the
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes of what drives them to do what
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: they're doing, and the goal is to kind of show
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: which ones are best, and then you know, further down
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: the line, they get either a bigger contract or it's
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: going to be a fight, a headline fight with one
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: of the organizations here in Texas, So we're kind of
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out what's going to be our best
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: angle for it. But it's a really cool way to
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: get these fighters a little bit more exposure and again
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: that competition aspect where they get to go up against
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: one another.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the goal of this show.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I love that too, because they're I mean, like you said,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: reality show era was back in the day. Obviously The
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter really helped put people on the map, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I mean Stephan Bonner and Forrest Griffin. Every round people
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: more and more people were tuning in because people were
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: calling their friends and be like, hey, you have to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: call you have to look into this, you have to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: watch this. Especially then it was the time of you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: couldn't It wasn't like social media wasn't his whereas now
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: where you could just watch it later.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: No, you had to watch it then.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously we had guys like Kimbo Slice,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who yeah he was able to knock people out and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: get Internet famous, but once he got into the actual sport,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it was a completely different situation for him. But yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: but get the marketing aspect, like, Yeah, Connor McGregor is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: one of the most marketable people.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Was he the is he in the goat conversation?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Not really, but when it comes to promoting fights, yes,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: without a doubt, he was for sure one of those
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: dudes that is the most marketable guy. So and then
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: we also have so many other people like Demetrius Johnson,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like literally one of the greatest fighters that ever existed.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Whether or not he drew that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Much money, I don't know, but for the fact that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he was literally one of the greatest fighters, you have
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to put him up there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Like there's no question about it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's that combination, like you said, of marketability,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: having the talent, and then and I love the whole,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the heart aspect of it. That's why I love talking
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to so many MMA fighters on this show, or pro
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: wrestlers or people in general. The story behind why they
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: do it and how they got to where they are,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I think is far more important than you know, what's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: actually gonna happen inside the cage or the ring or anything.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's such an important part, and it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: it's great to see so many people really putting their
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: stories out there. But I remember when I was starting
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: out in all of this, I didn't really hear too
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: much about all of that. It was just like, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Fighter A and Corner, you know Red Corner and Blue.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Corner Fighter, and you don't hear anything else about them.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: They're just kind of like, get the fights, everybody, get drunk,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: have a good time. You know. That's how the show's
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: kind of ran.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: And so now there's definitely more of more opportunities like
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: things like this again, jumping onto podcasts and being able
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: to post things online, even just creating your own content.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: People are really getting their stories out there. And it's
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: cool because again, like with the talent, you get to
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: kind of pick Okay, I like you because you're good,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: but also this part I connect with and that also
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: helps Marshall's in general, because then you connect on something else.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Then suddenly you're like, you know.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Maybe I could do this, Maybe I should get into this,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: maybe I should try a class, and you never know
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: what kind of talent we'll walk in that door.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people need to train anyway, just so
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that especially if you're a big fan of MMA, just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: so you have a little more knowledge yourself and also
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: not that you're ever really gonna fight.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: You could fight if you really wanted to.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But again, it's in that training aspect of knowing, Okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: this is why this person is doing this as opposed
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to what you think they need to be doing because
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you've never fought before, you never actually.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Trained before, exactly, Greed.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, so Texas is full of talent, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you talked about how some of these people will go
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on and fight here in Texas. Touch on, like how
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: much great talent is really happening, not only coming out
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of Black Widow, but just in Texas in general.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's really great right now. What I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: seeing that I'm really really happy about is just the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: growth of muy Thai in this state, you know, muy Thai.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I was actually talking to another coach.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I was like, he's been doing maybe a little longer
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: than I have, but we've been in the game for
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: about the same amount of time. And the big thing
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: that we used to have with TVAS, which was the
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: big muy Thai tournament up in Iowa, and that was
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: once a year and everybody prepped for it, and like
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you were the best of the best if you got
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: to go to that right, and you fought against the
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: best in the country, and so that was like our
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: big thing. There was you know, some muoit type promotions
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: West coast mostly some in the East coast, and so
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: now we've got so many here in Texas. In fact,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Coalition's coming next week here to Austin. That's the car
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: that Dylan's gonna be on, and that card is huge.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: You know that Coalition is one of the biggest names
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: right now in Mua Thai, and so to have it
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: come to Austin and they've done shows in San Antonio.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: They've also like are up in New Mexico and a
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: couple of others. We got Texas Muay Thai Championships, We've
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: got I forget the other one. But Bobby Peak is
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: one of the ones that's really behind a lot of this,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: and it's really great to see him just really rallying
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: behind these organizations. And I feel like there was so
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: many politics before in all of combat sports and so
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: and even in Muyesai, you know, it was very separated,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: and now I definitely see where everything's coming together and
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: these shows are doing well. Everybody's you know, at the
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: end of the day, yes, they're competing against each other,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: but we're behind the same idea of the growing the
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: sport and having more fair competition and opportunities, and so
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: seeing Muytai grow in Texas is amazing. You know, MMA
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: has definitely been king here for the longest time and
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: it will still be I think, you know, it'll be
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: a while for muay Thai and Mma is just you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: one of the longer running ones, and you know, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: absolutely am for that too. I love that it's such
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: a big thing here in Texas. But it's really cool
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: to see Fury, you know, blowing up like it is
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: as it always has and getting more and more people
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: into the UFC. You know, it's cool to see people
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: that have been in the Austin area or in Texas
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: and now you watch them and you know, the biggest stage,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: and it's been one of those things where they started
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: on a smaller you know, fighting circle, move up to
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Fury and then Fury sees the talent and opens those doors.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: I think Eric is doing a really great job of
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: doing that for them. You know, it's not like it
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: used to be, whereas a lot of selfish promoters and
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: it was just about making the most money this is like, Hey,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I want to see these fighters go to the absolute
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: you know, furthest that they can in their careers, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: so definitely see that with a lot of the guys
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: coming out of here. So we're really happy that Johnny
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: will be fighting the following week with them. So yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: it's really cool to kind of see that, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: where it just continues to grow and these opportunities are
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: there and everybody's still so accessible. Eric and self will
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: send me messages about like, hey, just making sure everything's good.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Do we have this? Do we have that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: He's not so removed from it, and I think that
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: helps a lot of these organizations, same thing like I
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: was saying with Bobby. They still stay rounded in all
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: of it. And I think that's the Texas charm helps
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: with that too, because you know, everybody's really nice. Everybody
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: wants to you know, be friendly and things like that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: So I feel like that helps this culture grow too.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: So that's why we're seeing that growth happen so fast
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I know x KO up here in North Texas doing
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: fantastic things too, where they will have an MMA about
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and they'll also have Muytai on the same show.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And I think that's absolutely fantastic.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Because I am I've always been curious why muytai has
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: not become more popular here in America considering how big
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: boxing was and how much people want to see, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the kicks and the punches of the knockouts when it
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: comes to mma, which you get most of that inmytai.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But it's just weird to me that that hasn't taken off.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad it is now.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely becoming more common. Before I would say
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: muytai and people are like, what's that, well, like doing
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: karate questions, you know, and I'm like no, And now
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: some people have an idea, but it's becoming more and
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: more common, which is great, you know, because yeah, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: agree with you. I think that is that That's what
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: drew me to it. It's the most violent sport in
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: my opinion, out of all of them. And so yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: hopefully people start to see these highlights and things getting
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: pushed online and they're like, Okay, I want to see
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: more moy thai, you know, I want to see these
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: elbow slicing, lips open, all that kind of fun stuff.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: So I would definitely love to see it grow even
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: more than it already has.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, without a doubt. Yeah, we definitely need more muay Thai.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, now, Jill go ahead, sorry to say, Dale
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: is gonna put on the show.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I told him, I was like, make this, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: your highlight.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Go out there and have fun with it, because it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: the most fun you know, getting to do a muytai fight.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Oh definitely, yeah, No, gettings to be someone up in
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: muay thai, especially with full rules, elbows, knees, all that
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: great stuff. Yeah, it's definitely very different and an enjoyable
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: experience for sure.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's huge.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as much as this is a physical sport,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it's also a mental one. How do y'all try to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: or I mean, Dylan obviously you too, But how do
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: y'all try to teach your students about the mental aspect
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of everything too? Because obviously it's the you know, the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: mental putting yourself there mentally actually you know, the ramp
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: up before the fight and then coming down afterwards. It's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: just it's all in one. How do y'all kind of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: try to teach that as well?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, from I'm a teaching standpoint, I don't I wouldn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: say I have the most experience. I can say from
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: my personal experience of how I deal with it. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: go for it, a lot of it. And it's just
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: something I'm stealing from Johnny, our pro fighter. But it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: just take it day by day. That's like the I
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: think that's the most important thing when preparing for any
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: fight or anything. Pressure is like you need to not
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: look at the full picture. If you're about to do
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: like a six week fight camp, a week however long
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: it is, you can't look at every single day. Okay,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I have to work hard here here, here, here, I'm
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: gonna work hard. It's gonna hurt, it's gonna be sort
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: of No, you have to take all, right, what am
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I gonna do tomorrow? You do tomorrow? Then what am
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I gonna do the next day? Then one might do
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: this day and this really becomes super overwhelming. And I've
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: had a moment or two like that where i have
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: a day where I'm like God, Like usually a Sunday
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: before I start like the whole week, I'm like, my god,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to train so hard. It's gonna be tough.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: And then I have this fight. Oh my god. The
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: fight's gonna be crazy, and it's like that's when you
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: just need to be able to take those couple of
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: breasts and then reset yourself and say like, Okay, no
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: you're not today, You're not going to train your not
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: all everything's happening in one day. Take today, train tomorrow,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: train the next day, plan out your diet, all that stuff.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Focus on the little things, and that's really what makes
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: it a lot more manageable, because, yeah, it's be overwhelming
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: if you if you look at the full picture, but
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: if you just take it a little bit by little
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: bit and then have that little bit of mental fortitude
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that comes from training and putting in the work and
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: you know, enjoying the pain just a little bit, that's
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: where it all really comes together. And so that's been
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: my personal experience with it. I know everyone's process is
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: a little different. Maybe some people like to look at
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: the whole picture and that's you know, helps drive them.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: But I think just putting into little manageable amounts is
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: definitely how I would go about handling it, or tell
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: someone else to handle it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd have to agree with him there, And I
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: think that's one of the things I keep saying Johnny
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: really pushes that and as like he's one of the
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: heads for the MMA program, and I think that's really
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: good that he shows that part of it, because I
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: think it does become overwhelming and a lot of dif ways.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: You know, people get really excited when they start and they're.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Like, man, I want to you know, fight, and I
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: want to do this, and I want to take you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: ten fights within the next year, and this kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: like you know, really crazy goals, which is great to have,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: but if you start to look at that, you can
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: become overwhelmed by it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: All and then you're not enjoying the journey as much,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: So it's like getting to kind of slow down and
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: be like, yes, there's going to be really good days.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: There's going to be days where you're not feeling your best,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: but you get through them and it's part of the experience.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I think that's something that a lot of the guys
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: here understand, and even some of our guys that I
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: wouldn't say burn out, but that's definitely a thing. You know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Sometimes they're like, you know what, I think, I want
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to take a step back from this, and you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: us as coaches, sometimes it's really hard because you see
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: the talent and you see their abilities and you know
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: what they're capable of. But I also don't ever want
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: to push that too far. I think the best I
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: can do is guide them as close as I can
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: and then if they decide to take that step through that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Door or not.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: And so I think that's one of the things that
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: we do that's a little different because I also have
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: to think of them as human beings and not just like, oh,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: this is going to be great, because yeah, what coach
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: doesn't love having, you know, twenty guys work in every
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: single fight, in every single.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Tournament and all this kind of stuff.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: But I have really healthy fighters mentally and physically, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: I think that's more important and that's something that I
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: take a lot of pride in. So whether they choose
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: to fight or not, their talent is there, their skills
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: are there, and they're happy in what they do. And
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: so I think that's something that we do here that
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: you know, can be a little bit unique because I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: don't I don't push that part of it too hard
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: just for the sake of my own name or glory
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: or whatever.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: That that's I always tell them that's the least of it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I was like, you go out there and put out
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: your best performance so that you can showcase what you
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: know and what you're good at. And that way they're
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: doing what they want to for themselves and not trying
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to put this added pressure of like, you know, you're
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: representing all of us, and you know, do this.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: For this kid in the crowd and this and that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I don't put that pressure on them, so that way
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: they can do it and enjoy it instead of feeling
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: like it's something they have to and then it builds
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: a lot of anxiety and things that they may end
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: up resenting. You know.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I've definitely seen.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: That in other fighters in the past, and that's not
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: something I would ever want these guys to go through
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: because I.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Also know them as human beings, you know, I see them.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I still see them in their day one when they
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: were struggling to punch, and I see them, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: things that they've gone through and how they've grown. So
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I can't separate that part of it just for the
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: sake of like, Okay, well, now you're a fighter, You're
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: just an animal, You're a beast. Like there's still human beings,
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: you know, So I want them to enjoy all of it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not just machines that you you know, put
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: out there and be like, Okay, you you go fight.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care what you're thinking about mentally or how
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you're feeling, just go out there and kill it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, our guys And then they're so nice too,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: like they will go out there and kill them, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: then they're like, are they okay, hey, let me check on.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: That is funny because I know that that stereotype is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: out there of you know, MMA people in general are
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just like complete animals in and out of the cage,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: just like no, out of the cage, Like they're genuinely
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: some of the nicest people.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: On the planet.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, definitely.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I think the ones that bark the most usually can't fight.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: That's been what I know.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, okay, you don't know anything about this.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Comes to have a few rounds.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And we'll see, right, Yes, go get punched once and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: let me know how that works out for you.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: M h.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I have a segment on the show. I call it
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the five counts, just five random questions. Okay to number one,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: what are you nerding out on right now?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: As of right now? Stranger Things. I've rewatched the whole season.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I've got passed all the way up to season five
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: because I wanted to rewatch the whole thing for the
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: new one. So I'm about to start season five, so
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I've literally been in deep from season one to four.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I think I rewatched the whole thing in like a
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, so I've been biting that. So that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: what I'm on right now.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Nice, yes, thank you.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I think for me it's a controversial and conspiracy theories, okay,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: coreat There's so much going on in the world right now,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: and I've always that's kind of one of those things.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I remember one of the first books I read about
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: anything like that. It was probably thirteen or fourteen, Behold
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: a Pale Horse, and it was one of those things
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: where I was like, Wow, this is crazy information. And
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: so now that I'm saying this, I was like, man,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: this thing was right all along. And so it's like
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: kind of hearing all of that, but I have to
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: just kind of I can't nerd out too much because
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: then I feel like it's just like an added thing
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I don't need in my brain right now. But unfortunately,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: that's one of those things that I was nerding out
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: on for a little bit. That and supplements, supplements this menu,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: but like a lot of herbal stuff, all of that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Like I've been telling everybody because everybody here in Austin
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: stuffers from allergies.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: So we've been talking about all the stuff that helps
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: with that and.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Nutrition and you know, getting your your vitamins and all
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: that stuff for food and how that helps your performance.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: And so that's the positive thing that I've been nerding
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: out on lately.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'm glad you have a yin and a yang
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Number two, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: coffee shop, or dispensary, which one would you own and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: what would the name be?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Dones Under twenty one he cannot legally answer.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this person, you could think forward.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: This is on record. In five years, Okay, in five years,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I could see myself. I hope this goes into what
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: you said. I can see myself owning a nightclub. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: can see it downtown. Uh it would be I would
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: name it something cool. We'll put that down for now.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: That's a placeholder, but it would be selling very cool
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and Uh, I could definitely see myself, you know, dicking
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: that out with everything, because I always found that I've
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: never been to a nightclub legally, but I've always found
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: the concept really cool and I always thought it was
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: such a dazzling experience. So I would make a nightclub
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: and like the vision of what I wanted to be,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: hopefully way clearer than the most nightclubs. That would be
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: my main but otherwise, yeah, I think that's what I
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: could see myself doing.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: That's really cool. And he says legally because one time
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: we did have to. We knuck them into a club
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: for our Christmas party. So that was a lot of fun.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: But he behaved. All he did was dance. That was
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: a really good time.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Yah, had a good time.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me, it'd be a vineyard.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Actually I own part of one in Mexico, Yeah, I do, yeah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: and it's it's a small part, but it's over in Vaya,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: which is outside of Tijuana, and I just fell in
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: love with the area and I wish I was fancy.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of stuff about wine, I don't.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: I know what I like and what I don't, and
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I can't tell you like all the cool fragrance notes
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff, the mouth feel, I know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: none of that.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I just drink it and enjoy it. But that was
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: one of those things. And actually I.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Can't separate myself from the fight world because part of
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: why I bought it is that it's a.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: It's a vineyard.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: They have like different ones, and they've got like themes
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: to some of them and events at others, and so
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: one of my goals with that is to work with
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the larger vineyard that is there and eventually do muytai
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: camps at these things. And so it's like you get
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: to go and do all like fun fancy stuff and
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: then you can have a class of like, you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: from noon to two you're like killing it and then
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: you go in the happy hour and go enjoy your wine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the ultimate goal with That's pretty cool.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That's a great idea. I love that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Number three, what would your last meal be?
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a tough one because there's so much good
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: stuff and I'm participating in a wait pet currently right now,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: so everything literally just anything sounds delicious right at this moment.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: But I'd say for me personally, it would have to
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: be just the biggest thing of mac and cheese you
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: ever seen creamy. But we're not talking like cheap stuff.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: We're talking like five cheeses, extra cheese on top of
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: bread crumbs, made some bacon in there. Oh, that would
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: be a drink, maybe a little bit of chicken. That
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: would be incredible. And then if I could get a
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: dairy queen blizzard to go alongside that, and then just
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: you know, as much as soda as possible, those three
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: things together I think would make a very well rounded
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: end of day meal for me. And I could make
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: that stretch too. I can make that last for a
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: good long while before whatever it needs to happen to happen,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: So I think that could be a couple hours at least.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So I think that would be my dream right there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Nice, Yeah, I think for me it would be my
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: mom' scrlo res. It is the absolute best and my
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: favorite food ever, and anytime we have any event at
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: the gym, she's always the one that cooks because everybody
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: loves her food.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: So it's like our.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Big thing here.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: But it would probably be that That's what I would
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: want to be my last meal. And then with some
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: crembrewleys from Kakraw, which is a Thai restaurant here that
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I absolutely love and they make the best.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Crembrewlay, so I would probably have like ten of those,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and yeah, I think that would be good.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: One had a lot more feeling mind, and I feel
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: like I feel it very much like a kid. I'm like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I need mac and cheese and sugar in the mac
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: and cheek experience.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's your last meal. You can do whatever you want.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, y.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Was delicious, you know.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And number four, who are what inspires you?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Oh? Come back to me because I gotta think about
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: it for a second.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: For me, it's an easy one. My mom.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I think she's the one that inspires me the most,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: and honestly, just the women in my gym. The gym
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: is named technically after my grandma. That was her nickname,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: and even though that was kind of negative, so.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: The whole how did she get that nickname?
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of the more romanticized version of it
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: is that she came from a really well to do
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: family and they wanted her to have an arranged marriage
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: with another rich guy, and she said no, so she
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: went and it was kind of one of those things. Again,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: the romanticized parties. They were kind of like, oh, well,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be cursed in love forever, and that's kind
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: of how we went. She had four husbands, they all
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: passed away before she did so because she was kind.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Of out on her own.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: She started her own business and she always ran restaurants
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: and you know, other little things, and at the time
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: that was pretty unheard of. And so even though things
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: didn't go great for her in you know, the love department,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: even all her boyfriends passed away before she did. She
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: had a boyfriend all the way to like almost her ninety,
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: which she was in her nineties, and he passed away
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: in the same hospital as her four days before she did.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: So like, yeah, I was like, so that's where the
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: nickname came from.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: So when she passed, my brother and you got the spiders.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Tattoo and kind of honor of her and so like
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: the fact that she could go through all that and
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: still run a business and you know, still be like
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: just a badass, Like it's really cool. So that's the
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: women in my family definitely inspire me in a lot
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: of ways. My mom too, She's always just been a
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: really hard worker and with that too, she just does
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: it with a lot of heart. She doesn't ever sit
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: there and like you know, she would work long hours
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and she would come home and be happy to see
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: us and like let's go out and do something or
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: let me cook something for y'all. It was never like
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: complaining about having a hard day. And I think that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: one of those things whenever I do find myself where
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: it's like a lot of stuff is happening and I
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: want to complain, I'm like, I don't really have anything
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: to complain about, because this is work that I am,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: you know, creating something with I'm doing what I want
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: with it. It's not just work for the sake of work.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: So that helps keep me grounded and grateful.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: It's good.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: It's good, uh for me. So I yeah, I had
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: time to think about it. I had to think about
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: it because I don't know if I have any one
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: or a couple people that really like, truly inspired me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I've been obviously influenced and helped a lot through my
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: journey by a lot of different people, like my family,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: my parents, my grandmother as well. She's a very resilient woman,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: taught me a lot, and they've all given me a
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: lot of great influence and a lot of help. But
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever I've never had one
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: individual person where it's like this person's truly inspired me.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I look up to this person, and again I look
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: up to a good number of people, but no individual.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I think it's always been what you call it, how
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: do I say it? Like ideas that inspire me a
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: like ideals, like stories. Like any time I've read a
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: good story or watched a good movie with some sort
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: of inspiring message behind it. I find that helps me
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: in life as well. Like that drives me a little
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: bit more because it drives me to think, Okay, what's
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: what's my goal? What's driving me? Like I see people
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: that have goals, I'm like, okay, well what's mine? And
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: So I think it's always been the ideas and ideals
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: that really inspired me and like pushed me forward because
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I'm always trying to reach new heights. I think I
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: have a certain mill of drive. What that drives for
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: it can vary, but it's I feel like that's really
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: what keeps me going is then just keep inspiring to
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: the next thing.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's huge, because one thing that will
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: inspire you now may not inspire you later. But then
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that like you keep finding more inspiration throughout life and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: through other people's stories that you know, you just keep
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: kind of it's almost like just refueling your tank of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: all the inspiration exactly exactly, Well, this next question will
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: work for one of you, but not so much the
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  Speaker 1: other one.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll do this.
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  Speaker 1: What would you tell your seventeen year old self? And
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: then also where do you see yourself in five to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: ten years?
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  Speaker 2: We'll do We'll do that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: I think I would tell my seventeen year old self.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: To not let anything kind of dull that drive and
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: that spark that I have, because I do feel like
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: that kind of happened. I've always been like kind of
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: rebellious and you know, a little different, and there was
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: a lot of times where I almost tried to like
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: fit in and be normal and you know, not be
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: so I wouldn't say problematic, but I definitely if something,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: if I have an issue with something, especially if I
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: look at like a social thing that is incorrect, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: will have an opinion.
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  Speaker 3: And try to make a change in it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: And so I've always kind of been that way, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I do think that a lot of it was just
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: people trying to stop that and instead of doing that,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: it's like now I found like, oh, I can absolutely
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: still be that person and you know, made a whole
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: career of it and been able to like help other
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: people with that same attitude that I was told before,
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: like oh you sh and be that way. And so
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: I would tell that my seventeen year old self, like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: you know, if anything be worse, like be worse than
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: what you are right now, it's gonna make a difference
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: and you can do something really good with that.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Would tell my seventeen year old self. And then five
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: years from now, I think we kind of touched on
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: that a little bit. We were helping one of our
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: other guys cut wait yesterday and we went live on
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Instagram and people were like, oh, open a gym here,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: open a gym there. And I think that's one of
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: those things I was told early on, like, Hey, what
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: you want eventually is to be able to branch out
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: and have you know where you've got different chains of
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: this gym. And at the time, I was like, there's
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: no way, let me just get through this, And now
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, that's absolutely doable. Because as much as
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I love this, I love seeing my fighters also, you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: do their own thing, and even if they're not like
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: people who are really good at this, I want to
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: see them grow and do something with it as well.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I would love nothing more than to be able to
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, you know what, you're gonna be in
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: charge of this gym.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be in charge of the one in sun Moncos, the.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: One in Round Rock, the one in you know, Houston,
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  Speaker 5: and wherever we decide to go, because I do think
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: that what we do we do well and definitely could
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: touch more people.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So that would be my goal in the next five years.
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  Speaker 4: So let me see what would I tell myself two
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  Speaker 4: years ago. I mean, obviously the ideals haven't changed too much.
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  Speaker 4: Let me go from this. If I was like thirty
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and I was going back to myself at seventeen, I'd
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: imagine like this, I'd say, is one of my ideas
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: and goals is to make sure is for one, is
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: to just never what you say take life too seriously,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: like never stop playing, that's for one. Like I feel
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: like people get into this mindset of like my life
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: is super serious. I need to work nine to five,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I need to make as much money as I can.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I need to just and they just try and get
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: through it by basically surviving, and that's not what I
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: want to do. I want to make sure like I
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: always stay a kid and you know, do nerdy stuff
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  Speaker 4: like I played D and D Like I said, I
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: watched Stranger Things, I watched all the TV series that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: ever was, and I play tons of nerdy games besides that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: And so that's something I want to carry on into adulthood.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Like obviously I'm going to keep growing and everything, but
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: like I want to keep those little things that you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: make me me. And like that's another thing is I
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: never want to change. I want to grow and I
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: want to improve, but I want to always stay me
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  Speaker 4: because I'm awesome as far as I'm concerned. And so
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people need to tell
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: themselves that more like there's a lot of like I
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: think a lot of self hate going around in the world,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you know, and like fly if they don't realize that
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: they're like they're not happy with themselves the way they are.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And one of my goals is always to just been
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: because I've always had that kind of naturally, and I
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: think it's part of my upbringing and I credit that
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: to my parents. But I always just happy with what
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I always want to reach for more and I always
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: want to do more. Obviously I have goals, but I
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: never lose sight of like, Okay, I like who I am,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: happy people, what I've done, I've achieved things. You know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: so many people want to move on to the next
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: thing and not even like recognize what they've done before.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: And so I wouldn't want to make sure that I
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: always remember that and like just remember, you know, how
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: cool I am as a person, you know. And then
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: so goals five to ten years for me, I see
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: myself college degree, bachelor's ideally see about selling higher and
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: then I do want to branch out one of these days.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: I want to start on a business on my own.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Would big deal? And if talking about inspirations coach Mesavi
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: has definitely helped me out with that, seeing her journey
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: and like how she's done this from basically nothing, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: like just starting in almost an accident and being able
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: to turn it into this huge, massive thing.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: That's really giving me like a realistic sense of like, oh,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: you know what, maybe I can't start my own business
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: or do my own thing. I don't need to work
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: for some other person in some big company, you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And so I see myself, you know, improving myself, leveling up,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: and then eventually starting selling on my own. So that's it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I love both those answers. Those are fantastic, Thank you.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And Dylan is absolutely awesome. I think one thing
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I do want to say is his positivity. Like he's
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: here literally every day, like so that's one of the
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: things with him when all of us first met him,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: you know, we're kind of like, he's super friendly and
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: really nice.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think any of us had the thought that
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: he'd be a fighter, oh, super shy, super like yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: just really reserved.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: But he just was so positive and king been always
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: really to learn and was here literally every single day,
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: every single class for the majority of this time that
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: he's been graining. And it's like that radiates to so
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: many people too, So it is really cool, And I
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: love what he just said about you know, there's too
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: much self hate. People do need to be happy with
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: themselves and enjoy the process and be positive like that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Like a lot of the guys in our team are
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: like that. And again in the combat sports world. You
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: don't always hear that part, but seeing that here, it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: it's amazing.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as much as it is with society,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: with the social media is, but imagine inside a gym
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: as well, because you're comparing yourself to somebody else, it's like,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: why am I not to where this person is? Is like,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: we're literally all on our own journey and how we
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: get there.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: They could be short, could be fast.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: You never know, like somebody could let's say you're a
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: backup fighter, or you just happen to show up to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a fight but you don't have a fight, but somebody
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: gets injured or doesn't show up, whatever, you get to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: step up, take that spot, and then all of a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: sudden you're where you didn't think you were going to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: be that morning, let alone you know, further in the day.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: So it's just, yeah, you have everyone's on their own
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: journey and like you said, be a kid, be you know,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: try fun, do stupid things, whether it be I mean, fuck,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: look what the Pettis did when he jumped off a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: cage and kicked something in the face. No one thought
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to ever do that before, so but he did.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And then moments yeah, exactly It's just.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Little things like that, whether it be you know, D
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: and D because you are being creative and you are
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: having to think different ways of like, all right, how
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: do we get out of this predicament? Well that probably
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: also goes into your fighting because you're thinking, oh, how
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I get out of this predicament? Or how are you
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: teaching somebody else how to get out of a predicament?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: So yes, always be.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: A kid, always wanting to be learning, and.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Never don't take yourself too seriously.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day and the end of
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: his life, we none of us get out of us alive,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: so you know, just have the fun moments and while
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you're still here, and then obviously cherish every moment that
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you do to have.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Definitely definite.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if people want to find out more about y'all,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: follow you online, come take classes, support y'all in any
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: way how can they do?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So, Yeah, social media is going to be the best way.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, even though I say things like not negative,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: but I think social media is such a great tool
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: because it's helped us kind so many people. So I
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: would definitely say our Instagram is the best way to
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: reach us, as we're the most active so it's Black
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: Widow MMA t X.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: If you go on there, our page is there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: I update the stories and everything like that daily because
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I like to make sure that everybody sees all the
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: stuff that we do. So there's lots of info on there,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: all of the different classes, because we do offer a
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: lot of things outside and just our regular schedule too,
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: like just this weekend alone, we've got that MMM Gladiators,
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: we have a Queer MMA event, We've got women's classes,
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: we do all kinds of other events. So it's a
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: cool way to keep up and it may be one
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: of those things where even if you're listening right now,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: you're like, oh, this is cool, but I don't.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Know that I could do that or maybe some other
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: part of what we do. We also have a stuff class.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: We've got like all kinds of things that we do here,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: and it's a great way for people to be able
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: to connect.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: They can kind of at least see it, get.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: Comfortable with the idea, and they can kind of, you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: follow along with everybody's journey, and then again if they
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: decide to join us. It's all the infos on there
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: and then our websites and all that is updated too.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: So they can always just black with MM all that
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: stuff pops up.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I love it well, thank you so much for your time.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I love what you guys are doing down there, and
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I have friends in Austin. I definitely
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: just swing by and takes a class for two and
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: have some fun.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd love to have you come by anytime.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 51:51
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• 51:54
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• 51:58
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• 52:00
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