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Justin Pearson Says Jesus is Gay Woman · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: From the principal Toyota Studios, it's Morning in Memphis with
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  Speaker 1: Todd Starnes.
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  Speaker 2: And a very good Thursday to you. A busy day
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  Speaker 2: here at the Mighty 990 and a busy day across
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  Speaker 2: the Mid-South as well. We are so happy that you
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  Speaker 2: have chosen to hang out with us today here on
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  Speaker 2: the Mighty 990. We have a very special guest coming
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit later in the program, the president
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  Speaker 2: of the Southern Baptist Convention Association. is going to be
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  Speaker 2: joining the program, and he has a very special message
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  Speaker 2: and a warning to people of faith across the Mid-South.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Willie Rice is going to be joining us at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, so you're going to want to
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  Speaker 2: be sure to be a part of that great conversation today.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have with the president of the nation's
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  Speaker 2: largest Protestant denomination. Also, a little bit later on today,
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  Speaker 2: Memphis City Council is going to do it again. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to resume the session that ended in that violent
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  Speaker 2: protest earlier this week. By the way, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you guys have seen this, but Memphis... is now
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  Speaker 2: national news. National headlines, Good Morning America, CBS News, TMZ,
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  Speaker 2: everybody is covering the chaos that unfolded at the city
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  Speaker 2: council meeting. All of these far-left rent-a-mob agitators led by
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson, they're causing mayhem because of the data centers,
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  Speaker 2: and they want the data centers shut down. They want
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk run out of town. They say they want
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  Speaker 2: Elon's money, but they don't want anything else. Well, Elon's
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  Speaker 2: not just going to come to Memphis and drop millions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars, right? So anyway, we're going to see how
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  Speaker 2: all of that plays out. Meanwhile, the city council chair
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  Speaker 2: released a statement last night And it's really interesting. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to appease this rent-a-mob, and it's not going to work. Also,
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  Speaker 2: you've got city councilmen... Ford Canale, who wrote a statement
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  Speaker 2: obtained by Fox 13 and said that he is deeply
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  Speaker 2: appalled by what unfolded and said the council fell short
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  Speaker 2: of ensuring the safety of people in the council chambers.
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  Speaker 2: So he's calling for a full internal review. He's calling
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  Speaker 2: for an investigation. He wants to know whether the appropriate
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  Speaker 2: level of police presence and security was requested beforehand. Well,
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  Speaker 2: of course it wasn't. He's also reaching out to the
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  Speaker 2: district attorney's office to review what happened with MPD and
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  Speaker 2: other officers. You know, this is what gets me. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and here's he also wrote this. Ford wrote this. Charges
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  Speaker 2: should be brought where the evidence and the law supports them.
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  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, they need to haul in Justin Pearson. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, all of you far left agitators, can
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  Speaker 2: I say something about your your lord and savior agenda?
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  Speaker 2: the Afro-Jesus. Can we talk about this for just a moment?
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  Speaker 2: Afro-Jesus was standing in the back of the room. This
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  Speaker 2: is something you need to pay attention to. This guy,
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  Speaker 2: he agitates and stirs up, but then he positions himself
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  Speaker 2: so that others will take the fall. You watch. Go
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  Speaker 2: back and look at all the protests, and you'll see
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about here. Afro-Jesus has absolutely... I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a coward. That's what I think he is. I
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  Speaker 2: think this guy is a coward. He's got the loud mouth,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't have the moral courage to stand alongside
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  Speaker 2: the mob that he riles up. So if they're going
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  Speaker 2: to investigate, they need to take a look at this guy.
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  Speaker 2: And if you watch the videos, you can see Afro Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson, and he's back there with a big grin
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  Speaker 2: on his face. This was what he was hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: And quite frankly, put everybody in that council chamber, everybody
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  Speaker 2: inside City Hall in danger. But can we just, let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you about the security there. Who in their
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  Speaker 2: right mind would let anybody into the building with a megaphone?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And I know some people are like, well, maybe they
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  Speaker 2: hid them, you know, in their, I mean, they're talking
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  Speaker 2: about megaphones. So at some point, let's just say, for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of the argument, that the rent-a-mob actually hid
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  Speaker 2: the megaphones on their person, you would think that the
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  Speaker 2: security guard would say, this is either, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: a Dolly Parton convention or somebody's sneaking something in here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really?
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll see how all of that plays out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's—look, they were fistfighting. fistfighting in City Hall,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody got arrested. They were literally, those city council
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  Speaker 2: members were in danger. Nobody did anything about it. And
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  Speaker 2: that is something that has to be addressed. 901-260-5926, our
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  Speaker 2: telephone number this morning, if you want to weigh in
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  Speaker 2: on that, 901-260-5926. So all that to say, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a do-over, and we'll see what happens. I
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  Speaker 2: would Presume that the city hall will be filled with
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement. We will see. The meeting starts at 4
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  Speaker 2: o'clock today. Council committee meetings start about 1 o'clock this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: And all of the meetings are going to be available
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  Speaker 2: to the public via live stream. So we'll keep you updated.
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  Speaker 2: Any breaking news, we will break into programming this afternoon
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  Speaker 2: here on KWAM. Now, I want to get back to Afro-Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: which is what we're calling Justin Pearson now. So this guy,
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  Speaker 2: I just have a question for you, and this is
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  Speaker 2: really for the Democrats. does this guy really represent your values?
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  Speaker 2: Does this guy really, really just ooze 9th Congressional District?
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  Speaker 2: And I say that because Justin Pearson, there's a video
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  Speaker 2: that surfaced, and we've got it on KWAM's website. We've
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  Speaker 2: got it on our social media platforms. Justin Pearson preaching
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  Speaker 2: at an Episcopal church here in Memphis, Calvary Church in Memphis.
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  Speaker 2: And During this, it was a massively long sermon, and
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  Speaker 2: the guy is not that good of a preacher, but
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  Speaker 2: he opens the service with a prayer, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: he prays in the name of Mother God. And that
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  Speaker 2: in and of itself is sort of like, wait, what?
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  Speaker 2: So Justin Pearson prays in the name of Mother God.
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  Speaker 2: And then he goes on to quote the founder of
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  Speaker 2: Black Liberation Theology, who says that Jesus is a gay
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  Speaker 2: black woman. And we've got the video and we've got
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  Speaker 2: the audio. Here's Justin Pearson.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus is black. We could also say Jesus is gay.
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  Speaker 4: And any other identity being humiliated. One of my students,
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  Speaker 4: Jacqueline Grant, said Jesus is a black woman and she
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  Speaker 4: is right. Jesus is a way of talking about God's
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  Speaker 4: solidarity with people who are hurt and despised. This is
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  Speaker 4: Reverend Dr. James Cone, the father of black liberation theology.
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  Speaker 4: And this is in his final book. Said I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: going to tell nobody. Jesus is a black woman, and
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  Speaker 4: she is right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hate to break it to Afro-Jesus, but Jesus
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  Speaker 2: Christ is not a lesbian. Unbelievable. So Justin Pearson, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, have you noticed he's back to his white
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  Speaker 2: man voice? You know why? Because he was speaking at
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  Speaker 2: an Episcopal church. Everybody there was about 90 years old
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  Speaker 2: and lily white. So, again, this is Justin Pearson, Afro-Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: who cosplays. That's what he does. And he shifts his
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  Speaker 2: tone and tenor and his voice, depending on what audience
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  Speaker 2: he's in front of. But that guy is insane. And
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  Speaker 2: I just ask a sincere question here, and especially you,
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  Speaker 2: because— and here's my observation, that even black Democrats in Memphis
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  Speaker 2: are pretty conservative when it comes to culture issues. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure— that even some of the more liberal
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  Speaker 2: black churches would say, yeah, Jesus is a lesbian. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about that. All right, let's go to the
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  Speaker 2: phones this morning. 901-260-5926. Let's say hello to Dean in
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  Speaker 2: East Memphis. Dean, good morning. What's on your mind?
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  Speaker 5: Afro Jesus. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: That's hilarious, man.
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  Speaker 2: Was it too much, Dean? Was it too much?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm on my second cup, so it's starting to
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  Speaker 5: resonate a little bit. I just wanted to say that
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  Speaker 5: after watching the debacle at the city of Memphis or whatever,
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  Speaker 5: I guess you couldn't say pinned an email, but I
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  Speaker 5: sent an email to Phillip Spinoza saying that the bullhorn
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  Speaker 5: things need to be banned from being able to be there.
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  Speaker 5: If they want to bring in a small sign, they
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  Speaker 5: can bring in a small sign.
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  Speaker 6: But no bullhorns.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dean, that's what gets me is how did they
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  Speaker 2: get the– who allowed the bullhorns into the city hall chamber?
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  Speaker 2: We knew what– at that point, you know what's about
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  Speaker 2: to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: It's just more– Sabrina Brown calls them activists. not activists, activists.
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  Speaker 5: They're paid people to show up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Dean, that's a it's a fair point you raise.
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  Speaker 2: And again, when you step back, everybody's complaining about the
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  Speaker 2: data centers. Well, you know what? Every single person in
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  Speaker 2: there was filming what was happening on their smartphones. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all right, fine. You don't want to have
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  Speaker 2: data centers. No problem. Turn in your smartphones.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Todd.
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  Speaker 2: Dean, have a great day there in East Memphis. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to Coy, listening to us in Memphis this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Wants to weigh in on Pearson. All right, Coy, what
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  Speaker 2: say you?
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  Speaker 3: Great day to y'all. First of all, let's go and
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  Speaker 3: get it out the way. Put God first. Stop trusting
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  Speaker 3: these people. God's showing us every day. I'm born and
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  Speaker 3: raised in Memphis. I'm a country man. I'm Tennessean for
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  Speaker 3: life out of Big Hampton. Went to Treadwell. All this
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  Speaker 3: stuff ain't nothing but the last days. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: tell you what we're making our number one mistake. Stop
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  Speaker 3: entertaining them. They do what they want to us, and
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  Speaker 3: then we got to show up and put these shows on. Justin,
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  Speaker 3: once I caught on to Justin, Justin sold us out
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  Speaker 3: with that oil. That was all the distraction. He flip-flopped.
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  Speaker 3: I know his brother was sacrificed by him. See, all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff ain't nothing but the same scenario over and over.
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  Speaker 3: They knew Elon was coming here. When Elon did the
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  Speaker 3: interview with that man, said the new guy going to
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  Speaker 3: be at Memphis, all this stuff ain't nothing but the
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  Speaker 3: mark of the beast. We ain't got to do number
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  Speaker 3: one thing. Stop trusting man and trust God. Do what
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  Speaker 3: God said because that's where we felt it. All this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Justin ain't nothing but a puppet. His whole contract is
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  Speaker 3: to keep up with the Malcolm X, her and Afro
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  Speaker 3: and all that black power stuff. That's racism. Show me
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  Speaker 3: the summers and I'll show you the children of God.
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  Speaker 3: That's the division right there. Stop dancing with these summers.
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  Speaker 3: Get over here with it. If you're a child of God,
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  Speaker 3: be a child of God. See, God is in control.
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  Speaker 2: So, Coy, I take it you don't believe what Pearson
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  Speaker 2: was saying about Jesus being a lesbian.
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  Speaker 3: I don't play like that. That's the only thing I
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  Speaker 3: got on her. When I started to call her the same,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, see, this is going— see, people got to
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  Speaker 3: stop being stupid. Yep. See, he is good at what
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  Speaker 3: he do. The devil is a great deceiver. Come on,
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  Speaker 3: look at the patterns. Deception, lies. God said the devil
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  Speaker 3: is the father of lies. Hey, Justin, what is all this?
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  Speaker 2: Look, Coy, it's a great point you raise, and I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate your point of view. We're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: take a quick break here, Coy, but thank you for
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  Speaker 2: calling in. Thank you for listening to KWAM. Hang tight.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to want to hang around because Ben Dieter,
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  Speaker 2: our great alumni, is on the phone. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: get to Ben. Got to take a break. Commander Chuck
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  Speaker 2: standing by with a look at your traffic and also
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  Speaker 2: your reaction to Afro Jesus, Justin Pearson saying, Jesus, Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: is a lesbian.
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  Speaker 3: 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Todd Stearns. Great to have you
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  Speaker 2: with us. Busy, busy, busy news day here in the Mid-South.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: By the way, you folks in Olive Branch getting ready
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: for a big free fall block party. That's happening next Thursday.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Olive Branch Chamber of Commerce organizing the event. And you're
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: going to want to get more information about that over
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: on the Chamber's website. Also, the Million Dollar Quartet. You're
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: going to really want to see this great new show
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  Speaker 2: over at Theatre Memphis, bringing Sun Records history to the stage.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: The musical recreates the famous gathering of Elvis, Johnny Cash,
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Jerry Lee Lewis, and Carl Perkins. And it opens at
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: 7.30 there at Theatre Memphis. So, That's October 16th. You're
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: going to want to go ahead and get your tickets
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  Speaker 2: to that. Let's get right to the phones. 901-260-5926. The
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  Speaker 2: great Ben Dieter from Washington, D.C. Dieter, what is going on?
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  Speaker 6: I'm speechless, but I shouldn't be. But I tune into
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  Speaker 6: the show this morning. I'm listening to you keep the segment.
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  Speaker 6: You hear Justin Pearson. Did it know what audio? And
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  Speaker 6: I'm in the shower pod. I'm getting squeaky clean, getting
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  Speaker 6: ready to go to work, walk to the nation's cap.
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  Speaker 6: And you play this audio of this man talking about
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  Speaker 6: black gay Jesus. Of all the literal things I thought
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  Speaker 6: was coming up, of all the things that man has said,
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  Speaker 6: that may have been the funniest thing he has ever said.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm hearing your commentary. I'm screaming, laughing. I can't stop.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, of course, I've got to call
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  Speaker 6: into the show. And then you start talking about the
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  Speaker 6: AI thing, the data centers, Todd. You guys are all
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  Speaker 6: the way in the nation's capital. I went to work yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not kidding. It was on the TV. The kids
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  Speaker 6: in my office say, oh, my gosh, Ben, aren't you
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  Speaker 6: from Memphis? I said, no, I'm not. I've never been there.
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  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 6: I'm kidding. I was like, yes, I know all of them.
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  Speaker 6: They're crazy. Ty, what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Ben, people have lost their ever-loving minds. This is how
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  Speaker 2: crazy it is. And what they're not talking about is
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  Speaker 2: that Elon is coming in and just dumping millions and
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars to put air conditioning in public schools,
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  Speaker 2: build gyms. They're actually even cleaning up all of the
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  Speaker 2: tires on the side of the roadway. And they want
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  Speaker 2: him out. They would rather live in squalor.
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  Speaker 6: Someone asked me at work, they said, do you think
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  Speaker 6: they know what they're protesting? I said, no, not one bit.
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  Speaker 6: I've been in that city hall. I've been to all
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  Speaker 6: the meetings. They have no idea why they're protesting. They
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  Speaker 6: protest to protest. No justice, no peace.
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  Speaker 2: No justice, no peace.
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  Speaker 6: I go to sleep and I still hear them.
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  Speaker 2: And the fist fight in City Hall was off the charts.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody was accusing me of being racist. How dare you
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  Speaker 2: bring up the weaves? I'm just telling you, it literally happened.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody snatched a weave off a woman's head.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't Amber Sherman, because Amber Sherman looked bald as
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  Speaker 6: a bat.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, I'm Amber Sherman.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey.
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  Speaker 6: You know, in a world that is ever-changing, and I
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  Speaker 6: hate that, everything's changed. One thing has not changed. Memphis
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  Speaker 6: is going to be Memphis, and that is why I
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  Speaker 6: missed it. Because of all the craziness happening in Washington,
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  Speaker 6: nothing compares or will ever compare to the city of Memphis.
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  Speaker 6: And that is why I'm proud to be a Memphian,
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  Speaker 6: and I still have my 901 tattoo.
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  Speaker 3: Despite the craziness.
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  Speaker 6: That I saw on my TV last night.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Maine. Come on. Come on, Maine. You need
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  Speaker 2: a Maine tattoo.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I know.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny, too, because this data center thing
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  Speaker 6: is a big controversy all around the nation. And before
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  Speaker 6: all the members of Congress, before Kustoff, all the delegation,
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  Speaker 6: before they all went into recess, Todd, they had a
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  Speaker 6: vote on the floor of the House. And it was
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  Speaker 6: to protect people like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: All of those women that were screaming from the rising
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  Speaker 6: cost of utility rates when these data centers like XAI
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  Speaker 6: are built in the neighborhoods. And basically, the bill would say,
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  Speaker 6: we're not going to transfer that cost of building these
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  Speaker 6: massive buildings onto the consumer. And because the Democrats are
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  Speaker 6: going to be Democrats, they voted against it. The next
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  Speaker 6: time they talk about lowering costs, they actually voted to
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  Speaker 6: raise the utility bills in Memphis. So Remember that when
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  Speaker 6: you go to the ballot box, people.
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  Speaker 2: Dieter, you know how it is. We've got to take
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  Speaker 2: a break. You've got a lot of fans in the
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  Speaker 2: live stream over on Facebook. Dean and the Christens, the
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Germantown, everybody is saying hello to you.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to hear from you, my friend.
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  Speaker 6: I'll be listening to this, be listening to the Todd
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  Speaker 6: Starnes show coming up at 12 o'clock today.
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  Speaker 2: 12 o'clock Eastern, 11 o'clock Central, 901-260-5926. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: All right, some serious news out of Whitehaven this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Two men shot last night. Memphis police investigating the shooting.
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  Speaker 2: This all happened about 8.45 last night over on Winbrook Drive.
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  Speaker 2: That's just south of Brooks Road. One of those that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: was shot in critical condition. Investigators say they've got one
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: person detained. No charges just yet. We'll keep you updated.
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  Speaker 2: on that story. Also, Memphis police are reporting a higher
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: homicide clearance rate, so that's good news. According to the NPD,
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  Speaker 2: the homicide clearance rate reaching 88 percent through September, no
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: doubt because of the Memphis Safe Task Force. All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's get back to the phones. A lot of folks
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  Speaker 2: wanting to weigh in on Justin Pearson this morning. Justin
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  Speaker 2: Pearson now saying that that God is a well, that
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  Speaker 2: Jesus is a black gay woman also prayed in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: name of Mother God. Does he represent the values of
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  Speaker 2: the 9th Congressional District? Let's go to the phone lines.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Renee is calling in from Memphis this morning. Renee, what
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: say you? Good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning. mr todd i would just like to thank
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: you for hosting this platform and i just also would
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: like to see what part did he say exactly that
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: god was a gay black woman because he said that
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: he could represent that but he didn't necessarily say that
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: she was a gay black woman. And then he also
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: referenced other people. So sometimes I have trouble listening to
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: your show because it seems like you try to spin
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: things to cause confusion. And when I look at the
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: city council meeting episode that they had, it seemed as
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: if the lady walked out saying that all someone does
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: is cause confusion. And I feel like this also adds
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: to it. So could you just clarify which part he
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: consistently said that she was a gay black woman?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. As a matter of fact, let's go back
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and let's go to the tape. And that's one of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the first things. When someone told me this had happened,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: they sent me a clip. I said, I need to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: see the whole clip so I can see it within
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the context. First of all, he did pray to Mother
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: God at the opening of the service. And then he
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  Speaker 2: said this.
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  Speaker 5: Jesus is black.
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  Speaker 4: We could also say Jesus is gay and any other
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: identity being humiliated. One of my students, Jacqueline Grant, said
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Jesus is a black woman and she is right. Jesus
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  Speaker 4: is a way of talking about God's solidarity with people
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: who are hurt and despised.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. You heard Justin Pearson say,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and this is right. So, Renee, again, if you're speaking
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: at an event like that, and I do a lot
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of public speaking, and if I say something I know
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be controversial, I'm going to either qualify
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: it or I'm going to be very deliberate so the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: audience is not confused. Now, what Justin Pearson could have
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: done and should have done is say, you know, that
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: this is absolutely outrageous. Jesus is not gay. Jesus is
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: not a woman. But he didn't say that. He didn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: say that, Renee. He said that he affirmed what this
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: individual was saying.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Todd, that's a great point you bring up. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: sometimes I remember them saying that Jesus could be your
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: doctor in the sick room, your mother, your father. Jesus
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: also could come in different forms. That's what they said,
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: that he sometimes just came amongst the regular people as
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: a commoner, and they didn't know he was Jesus. So
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: I still think you're taking it out of context, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: yet he should have said something along the lines of
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: this was what so-and-so said, and he also did name
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: the people who said that. So just being a listener
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: to your show, Ty, I would like to request or
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: just ask that you make sure you really, really clarify
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: and stop spending things for alternative agendas because sometimes that's
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: what it seems like. is done on this show. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: I really like to listen in because I feel like
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of information that could be spread, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: also it seems like it's an agenda. And if we're
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: going to just say it's for the people, let it
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: be for the people.
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  Speaker 2: Renee, and look, we gave you an opportunity, a platform
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to say what you just said. And I appreciate you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: calling in, Renee. We have no spin here. This is
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: really what he said. And that's why it was important
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: for us to have the audio so you can hear
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: it for yourself. Renee, thank you for calling in, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: thank you for being a part of the program. And, folks,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: this is the only radio station in Memphis, the only one,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that has Republicans and Democrats, people who agree or disagree.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: We have a platform here, and that's the whole point
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of the Mighty 990. Let's go to Justin in Collierville.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be Justin Pearson, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it's Justin in Collierville. Hey, Justin, what's going on?
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Todd. As somebody that lives and votes
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: in the non-congressional district and has watched Justin Pearson because
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: I grew up in his old house district, he is
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: a threat to civilization himself. This same behavior has been
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: in the Tennessee General Assembly the whole time. He's got
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: nothing accomplished, and he's a Marxist socialist.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: He was put in.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: That race not to win, but to build the socialist
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: movement across Tennessee. We have no choice in this race. Like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: We've got to get out and vote for Brent Taylor
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: for Congress. He's a common sense.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: He's a conservative.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: You know, he's a proven winner and he's a proven fighter.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: He's done more for Shelby County in my lifetime than
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: any legislator from the Tennessee Journal Assembly. So I can
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: only imagine what it's going to be like sending him
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: to Congress. So we need to get out. We need
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: to vote for Brent Taylor and we need to put
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: a full stop to Justin Pearson because he's a threat
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: to civilization. He's going to burn everything down. wherever he goes.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: He divides, he conquers, and more important than that, him preaching,
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: he's a heretic, and he's going to send a bunch
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: of people to hell with his un-gospel heresy message. It's
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: not Christian. I don't know what the hell that is,
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: but he needs to be shut down.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is insane. And I'll say this, Justin, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: just find it hard to believe the people in Collierville,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the people out in Fayette County, believe that Jesus is
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a black gay woman. And I also have a hard
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: time believing that the good people in the 9th Congressional
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: District pray to Mother God. So again, I don't see
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how this guy reflects the values of the 9th Congressional District.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: But here's what folks need to pay very close attention to.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Brent Taylor, I believe, is going to win and win
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: big in that ninth congressional district race. Justin, we could
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: be looking at the next mayor of Memphis, talking about
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Justin Pearson.
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: Well, if you've walked around downtown, you know that place
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: is a ghost town. It smells like piss everywhere. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: will see all the rest of those businesses empty out
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: of downtown if Justin Pearson is the mayor of Memphis.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: That'll be a full destruction. I don't agree everything with
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: Mayor Paul Young. but he is a.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: He's pragmatic.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Pragmatic mayor, and he does understand, and he's doing the
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: best he can for Memphis. And I'm not a Paul
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: Young fan, but I believe he's doing the best he
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: can for Memphis to attract businesses. And when you have
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: people like Justin Pearson acting like that, if you're a
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: business owner that's thinking about relocating to Memphis and you're seeing...
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: On the national stage, what's happening is city council. Why
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: would you want to be a business and relocate to
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: like that? If you don't feel, you know, you can
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: get a fair shot with city council with all that
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: division and chaos.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fair question. It is a fair question. Justin,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: got to leave it there. Thank you. Good to hear
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: from you. 901-260-5926 is our telephone number this morning. That's 901-260-5926.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: We had the opportunity to sit down and talk with Dr.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Willie Rice earlier. president of the Southern Baptist Convention. A
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: lot of Baptists here in the Mid-South. Let's take a
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: listen to that conversation. You know, Dr. Rice, you have
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: been making national headlines over a recent call you made
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: on pastors to step up politically ahead of the midterms.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, just kind of what you were talking
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: about there, that we need to be active. We don't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: need to be afraid of being engaged. We need to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: be able to articulate, you know, our Christian convictions on
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the most important issues of the day. And we need
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to be able to disciple our people. We need to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: help them think rightly and biblically from a Christian perspective
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: about the pressing issues. And when we don't speak to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: those issues... Our people are left without that guidance. They're
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: left without what we call in the church, as you know, discipleship.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: They're not being taught how to engage those cultural issues.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So I do think it's important that pastors lean in
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and not lean out, to step up, as we say.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And really over the past, I don't know if it's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: fair to say the past decade, it seems as though
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Southern Baptists have not been as engaged, and I wonder,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was there an effort to encourage pastors to step back
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: from the culture at large? You know, Todd, I kind
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of think there was.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody ever cooked it up in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a back room somewhere, but I think that was the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: practical effect. Really, in the early 2000s, some of the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: most influential evangelical leaders, and you could name some names,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: some very good men who did some very good things,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: all began to distance themselves from some of what were
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes referred to as the cultural and political debates. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you had several streams of a movement, all of which
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: kind of said this, in order to be missiologically effective,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: we needed to withdraw. Sometimes it was called pejoratively the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: culture wars. to quit being so political, to quit being
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: so divisive, that if we wanted to reach people in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a pluralistic post-Christian age, we had to quit talking about
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: those controversial issues. And I think the practical effect of
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that is that pastors did grow silent on a lot
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of those issues, and particularly Baptist leaders grew silent on
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: some of those issues.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: You know, what really fascinated me about this whole thing,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and it's the Trump effect, I think, and I would
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: go into some churches and the senior pastors would be
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: like all engaged. They know exactly where I'm coming from,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: why I was supporting the president. The younger pastors on staff,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a completely different vibe, Dr.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Rice, almost.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And I actually lost a good many Christian friends as
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a result of my support, for example, for President Trump
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and his agenda.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're right. I mean, the Trump era
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: has been a complicated one. And because of all the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: things about President Trump, his past and some of the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: statements he makes and some of the way he does things.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But it came about in that broader kind of background of, hey,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: let's not be controversial. Let's not talk about things that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: are divisive and polarizing. I live, for instance, in what
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: would be called a swing county, a purple county. You know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: my county can go red or it can go blue.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And in a swing state, well, Florida is not so
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: much a swing state anymore, but the area of Florida
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that it usually would determine which way Florida went. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: so I want to reach all kinds of people. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to be a red church. I don't want
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to be a blue church. I want to be a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Jesus church. I want to talk about the gospel. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: want to talk about Jesus. I want to preach the Bible.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a good motive. And I think
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pastors were drawn to that. But in order to do that,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: many of them bought into the idea that these controversial
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: cultural issues that deal with sexual morality, that deal with marriage,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that deal with what it means to be a human. Therefore,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: we cannot talk about those issues if we want to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: reach all kinds of people. I do want to reach
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: all kinds of people. But in order to reach them,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: we have to deal truthfully, not just with the essence
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of the gospel, but with the implications of the gospel
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: on all of life. We don't have to be arrogant.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: We don't have to be unnecessarily partisan. We don't have
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to be unnecessarily unkind or divisive. But we do have
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to lean in and engage the issues. People are asking questions.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Our people are watching. They want to know how to
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: engage these issues. And so I just think what was
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: often called the third-way mindset, that we have to have
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a third-way alternative of addressing this side or that side,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: it just didn't work.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: And the practical effect is at.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: The moment we needed our voice so critically, Many, many
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: evangelical leaders grew quiet, and our people did not learn
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: how to process and think about these issues.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I've been seeing the polling data and the surveys, and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it seems that, at least within Generation Z, there is
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a renewed interest in Christianity and really a deeper dive
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: into Christianity. I'm wondering if you were seeing that from
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the pulpit, and if so, what do you think is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: behind all of that?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I do see it to a degree.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say we're in an
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: awakening or that we've seen a widespread cultural movement, but
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you certainly are watching young people lean in, and we're
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: seeing many, many trends about that. I think it's a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hunger for authenticity. I think it's a hunger for truth.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I think they've seen the philosophies of the world, the materialism,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the hedonism, all the sexual libertinism that is out there.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: They've seen all of this, and it's left them wanting
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and hungering for truth. And here's the interesting thing. When
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they come into our churches hungering for the truth, they're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: not interested in superficial fluff. It's not going to capture
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: them It's not going to disciple them. Again, they don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: want you to be overly partisan. They don't want you
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: just to wave a political flag, but they don't want
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you to be afraid of wading into the critical issues
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of our day and our culture. And by the way,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: those critical issues inevitably have political implications. So while we
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: are not political pundits, we can't be afraid of engaging
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: those issues head on talking about them, opening the Bible,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and giving them the real answers that God's Word provides.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: All right, and that is just a bit of our interview.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: If you'd like to listen to the entire interview we
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: did with the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, go
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to toddstearns.com, and you can download that in our free podcast. Again, toddstearns.com.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: All right, got to take a quick break. Commander Chuck
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: standing by with a look at your traffic. Also paying
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: very close attention to the Gulf of America. Big hurricane
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: could impact us here in the Mid-South this weekend. We'll
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: tell you more about that coming up next. All right,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: welcome back, everybody. Good to have you with us. I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Todd Stearns. Coming up at 11 o'clock today, the Todd
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Stearns National Show right here exclusively on the Mighty 990.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Congressman Jim Jordan, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be a special guest. Also, Senator Marsha Blackburn.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So we've got a jam-packed show coming up for you
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: at 11 o'clock right here on the Mighty 990. You
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: folks in DeSoto County, heads up, they're going to have
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: a fall cleanup day starting Saturday. So if you've got
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: unwanted furniture, mattresses, maybe an old TV that doesn't work, well,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the county's annual fall cleanup runs from the 10th to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the 18th. Dumpsters available at designated locations worldwide. across DeSoto County,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: including Hernando, Olive Branch, and South Haven. They're going to
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: take furniture, yard debris, and certain household materials. So the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: county says the program intended to help all you folks
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: dispose of all of these unwanted materials safely. So if
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you have information, you can call your respective city hall
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: there in DeSoto County. 901-260-5926. A lot of folks weighing
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: in on Justin Pearson. I have no doubt that conversation
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: is going to continue at 11 o'clock as people nationwide
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: begin to pay attention to the 9th Congressional District race.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Top Democrats, by the way, making this one of their
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: key races, along with the 5th Congressional District race, where
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Charlie Hancher, the Republican... could be in trouble. Hatcher now
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: leading by only four points over Columbia Mayor Chas Mulder.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: And Mulder is really generating a lot of attention, even
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: among independents and some Republicans. So we'll keep an eye
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: on that race for you. All right, that music means
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: we've got to scoot out of here. Armstrong and Getty
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: coming up next after your top of the hour news. Also,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Laura Huckabee will keep you updated on the hurricane down
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: in the Gulf of America. Have a great one, everybody.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Mighty 990.