Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Outsourcing to Scale with Chef Eboni Bowman
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- 0:00But at that time, I wasn't really scaling.
- 0:02I was kinda making everything work because things were really coming at me fast.
- 0:06Like, the business was like building, building, building, quicker than I was prepared for too.
- 0:11So I didn't start scaling until probably a year or so in when someone was, like, looked.
- 0:18You're gonna burn yourself out if you're doing things the way that you're doing them.
- 0:22So it wasn't until we sat down and had that conversation that I really sat there and and
- 0:26and and thought about, like, You know what?
- 0:29You're right.
- 0:29So they started helping me put together a system, where I was able to scale the business.
- 0:363, 2, 1, 0, ignition, liftoff,
- 0:44Ending small business failure.
- 0:47Welcome to the small biz chat podcast with the number 1 small business spurt, Melinda Emerson.
- 0:54Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:59you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 1:02Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
- 1:09Hi everybody.
- 1:10This is Melinda Emerson, the small biz lady.
- 1:12America's number one small business expert, and it is my pleasure to welcome you to another
- 1:18episode of the small biz chat podcast.
- 1:22We have an amazing show in store for you today.
- 1:25And you wanna be able to tap into a strategy to grow your business.
- 1:32And it's very hard for service businesses.
- 1:34I know I've been running 1 for 23 years.
- 1:37So you wanna make sure you're thinking through all of your technology options and staffing
- 1:42options.
- 1:43And if you're running a service business, a solo business, and you wanna figure out how to
- 1:48scale your business, I got an expert here that's gonna give you her secrets on how she
- 1:52did it.
- 1:53The goal of all of this is to help you with your long term business strategy.
- 1:59Here on the small business chat podcast, we talk about how to start and grow a successful
- 2:04business.
- 2:05Our mission is to end small business failure, and we bring in guests with amazing expertise
- 2:11to give you advice from multiple angles to help you take your business to the next level.
- 2:17Now the small beach tap pockets is a peer to peer mentoring show.
- 2:21We're really about giving small business owners invaluable business advice that they otherwise
- 2:27would have to pay for.
- 2:28The small biz chat podcast can be seen on my small bus lady YouTube channel and on my
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- 2:40More people need to know about how to get great information to grow their business.
- 2:45Now let me introduce my guest, chef Evony Baumann.
- 2:49And she's gonna talk to us about how she scaled her solo business into a full service catering
- 2:56service.
- 2:57And she is the founder of Flavor Atlanta, and she turned her lifelong love of of cooking into
- 3:06a successful Georgia based small business offering personal chef services mill prep,
- 3:12cooking classes, and catering.
- 3:14Both of Ebony's grandmothers did a lot of cooking and baking, and one was a professional
- 3:19caterer.
- 3:19Ebony started helping them in the kitchen from when she was just five years old.
- 3:24Then she went and studied at the Art Institute of Atlanta's culinary school more than And now
- 3:28she has more than 20 years of experience in the culinary and hospitality industries.
- 3:34And if you want more information about her business, It is flavoratlanta.com.
- 3:39Evony, welcome to the small business chat podcast.
- 3:42Thank you.
- 3:43I'm glad to be here.
- 3:44Alright.
- 3:45So talk to us.
- 3:46How did Flavor Atlanta come about?
- 3:49Flavor Atlanta came about as kind of a side hustle.
- 3:54I've always loved cooking, loved baking, being in the kitchen, of course, test tasting, with
- 4:00with my grandparents.
- 4:02But I've worked in the food industry for quite some time, started catering on the side, but it
- 4:07wasn't until I had, left my my full time employment that I went full force with a flavor
- 4:14at Atlanta.
- 4:15So how long did you run it as a side hustle before it became your main gig.
- 4:21It was about 2 years.
- 4:23It's not an easy thing I might add.
- 4:25Especially working in food service industry.
- 4:27I was working in a kitchen, managing, a kitchen for a senior home, and I manage the kitchen
- 4:35staff and dining room staff.
- 4:36So having that big responsibility, which things are always going on, it's like I'm on call 24
- 4:41hours a day.
- 4:42And then on the weekends or after work, I'm catering, you know, small parties or doing
- 4:48cooking classes, that kind of thing.
- 4:52Alright.
- 4:52So how have you funded your business?
- 4:55I started small.
- 4:56I didn't take out any loans.
- 4:57I just, again, started booking small gigs.
- 5:02I had a lot of referrals.
- 5:03A lot of my friends know that I could, know that I had started a business.
- 5:07So they were referring people to me.
- 5:09So I just started small.
- 5:10I didn't wanna start off in a lot of debt.
- 5:12I didn't wanna buy a big building.
- 5:14I rented space in a, commercial kitchen, which I still do and it makes it a whole a lot
- 5:19easier.
- 5:20It makes it more affordable.
- 5:21I'm not taking in a whole lot of overhead.
- 5:24And I just take my time to I took my time and build the business, kinda like a brick by
- 5:29brick.
- 5:30Oh, I I think most of us have done that.
- 5:31So
- 5:32Yeah.
- 5:32What would you say was your shipping point that made you realize you needed to do something to
- 5:38grow.
- 5:39I was not happy at my full time job.
- 5:43And so when we decided to part ways, I I said I'm not gonna, you know, go full time anywhere
- 5:50else.
- 5:50I'm just gonna decide.
- 5:51I'm just gonna dedicate my time to doing this full time and make it really work for me.
- 5:56And I cannot say that it couldn't have happened at a better time.
- 6:02It was in November.
- 6:03I was thinking to myself, like, gosh, the holidays are coming up.
- 6:07How am I gonna balance this because holidays are always busy for me from, like, how I I was
- 6:12growing.
- 6:12So I was a lot busier than I was the year before.
- 6:14I'm like, how am I gonna balance this?
- 6:17And go to work and manage my staff at the same at the same time.
- 6:20But I think everything happens for a reason.
- 6:23So when we decided to part ways, I went all in with Flavor Atlanta.
- 6:28So what what did you have to do to scale?
- 6:31Like, when you went all in, did you have to get a team?
- 6:34Did you have to get a virtual?
- 6:36It's like, how did you handle it?
- 6:37So I didn't I did have I do did Indu still have some people that helped me But at that time, I
- 6:44wasn't really scaling.
- 6:45I was kinda making everything work because things were really coming at me fast.
- 6:49Like, the business was, like, building, building, building, quicker than I was prepared
- 6:53for it to.
- 6:54So I didn't start scaling until probably a year or so in when someone was like, look, you're
- 7:02gonna burn yourself out if you're doing things the way that you're doing them.
- 7:05So it wasn't until we sat down and had that conversation that I really sat there and and
- 7:10and and thought about it and like, you know what?
- 7:12You're right.
- 7:13So they started helping me put together a system, where I was able to scale the business.
- 7:20For things like our milk, the meal prep services, I was doing a huge, long menu because
- 7:27I'm thinking about my customers.
- 7:29I'm like, my customers wanna eat something different every day.
- 7:32And they were like, no, they just really don't wanna cook.
- 7:35So I instead of making instead of making, you know, a menu that was like 7 different meals,
- 7:41You're like, no.
- 7:42Do 4 or 5.
- 7:43And then we'll take the same ingredients and do the same thing.
- 7:48So while I'm not holding onto the ingredients from week to week, but I have a similar
- 7:53shopping list where if I have leftover oats or flour, what whatever ingredient I might have
- 8:00left over.
- 8:01I'm just buying the same thing the next week versus having to buy a whole new set of
- 8:05ingredients.
- 8:06Wasting, you know, it keeps me from wasting stuff.
- 8:09It keeps me from having all this overage running out of space storing all these extra
- 8:13different ingredients.
- 8:14So that was the first thing.
- 8:16So it wasn't that I noticed that it was a need for it.
- 8:19Someone else said, look.
- 8:21You're not doing this the right way.
- 8:23Let me help you.
- 8:24So that's how I started my scaling process.
- 8:27Now did you outsource parts of it too, or did you just kinda just organize your time and
- 8:32better?
- 8:34A little bit of both.
- 8:35I love a system or a, not system, a company, that I use is called Rodee Incorporated.
- 8:43They are an Atlanta based delivery service, and they're owned by UPS It's almost like a
- 8:50DoorDash or, Uber Eats.
- 8:53When they pick up for me, they do my deliveries.
- 8:55So that kept me inside the kitchen, instead of me doing my own deliveries, which I was doing
- 9:00and running myself crazy, because I can't be two places at the same time.
- 9:04So I outsourced that.
- 9:05I outsourced somebody to help me with my my emails and email blast and social media,
- 9:13writing out some of the verbiage for my weekly emails, doing my graphic designs for my flight,
- 9:21not necessarily flyers, but when I put out a menu every week, of course, when you get the
- 9:26food, you want everyone to see a certain thing.
- 9:28People are more attracted to stuff that has a picture of a a nice pretty plate versus just,
- 9:34hey, order this meal.
- 9:35And it's all worth.
- 9:36So I have somebody that does that graphic design for me.
- 9:39I bring in people that help me in the kitchen.
- 9:42So having somebody who has the time and the expertise to do something else that frees me up
- 9:51to do what I do best, which is being in the kitchen.
- 9:54So how important has your marketing and your networking been to like keeping things keeping
- 9:59things going?
- 10:00Like, do you feel like you have a loyal following on social media or on your email
- 10:04list?
- 10:04Like, are people waiting to see what the menu is?
- 10:06I do.
- 10:07And and, you know, we usually put our menus out on Thursday, around the holidays.
- 10:13It kinda crazy.
- 10:14It might be on Friday, but I'm getting text messages and calls like, hey, I'm looking for
- 10:18your menu.
- 10:19Are y'all not cooking this week?
- 10:20I mean, my meals.
- 10:23Or the week of holidays when I might not do a regular meal prep menu, it's like holiday food,
- 10:28or we'll do a lot of baking.
- 10:30You're like, So you mean my kids are home and my family's home and I can't order meals?
- 10:34So that does make me feel good that people appreciate my service, and a lot of them has
- 10:39told me that, the service that I provide to them makes it easier for their family.
- 10:46Love it.
- 10:46Love it.
- 10:47So do you specialize in any particular kind of meals?
- 10:51Like, do you do organic or Southern Fried?
- 10:55What like, like, you know, how are you do you kinda give people what the flavor or, you know,
- 11:01what you how do
- 11:01you I I pride myself on doing everything from scratch.
- 11:08So while I might not, I don't have, like, a a specialty But from my salad dressings, from the
- 11:15seasoning blends, I do shop in the farmers market.
- 11:19All fresh vegetables, no frozen, no canned foods.
- 11:22Those are the things that I pride myself on because I know a lot of other caterers or peep
- 11:27people in the food industry take the quickest way out.
- 11:30Food cost is crazy right now.
- 11:33I can't even tell you, I would say, like, a rack of lamb used to be 8.99 a pound.
- 11:40Now it's $15 a pound.
- 11:41It's almost double in the last year and a half, but I still I mean, even though some of those
- 11:47costs are passed over to the customer, just having that fresh food is super important, not
- 11:52cooking everything with those preservatives and those process foods is super important to me.
- 11:57And I make sure that my customers know that.
- 11:59And when they're asking, well, why is this this price?
- 12:02I can get it such and such place for somewhere cheaper.
- 12:05Again, I mean, that maybe what you have to do, but if you want food to fresh, you want it to
- 12:11be flavorful, which is why I'm flavored Atlanta.
- 12:15Fresh food and flavorful food.
- 12:16That's what I do.
- 12:18Well, listen, what would you say is the best business advice that you've ever gotten?
- 12:25Best outsourcing.
- 12:27You know, when I'm in, like I, like I said earlier, when I'm in the thick of it and I'm
- 12:32just on go mode, I go go go.
- 12:34I work.
- 12:34I had to get all of my clients taken care of.
- 12:37I don't I don't think about how I didn't think about how getting others involved to help me
- 12:45run the business or let them focus on what they can do to help me with so much more beneficial.
- 12:52Now I'm not saying I'm not a tire person.
- 12:55I'm not saying that there are times where I don't get a lot of rest, but just having those
- 13:01people in place that can do those things and let them do what they're good at, and and let
- 13:06me do what I can do and what I'm good at, it makes it so much more peaceful, better for me,
- 13:13I'm a happier person.
- 13:14I'm not a little grinch, which, you know, when you're when you're really busy, don't realize
- 13:21how you come off to other people.
- 13:23And I just
- 13:25let you know.
- 13:25I had to take my I had to take my life back.
- 13:29So outsourcing outsourcing outsourcing.
- 13:32Love it.
- 13:32Love it.
- 13:32Well, thank you so much for being here.
- 13:35You really have given us a lot of helpful advice.
- 13:38I think it is very hard for service businesses to scale.
- 13:42So I'm really excited to hear the things that you've been able to do to scale your because
- 13:47basically you have a personal chef business, and that that is a lot.
- 13:51And you're, you know, working with very specific people.
- 13:54So I I love it.
- 13:55I love the advice that you gave.
- 13:57And thank you so much to chef Evony Bowman, founder of Flavor, Atlanta, Her website is
- 14:03flavoratlanta.com.
- 14:06Now listen, if you're interested in starting your dream business in 2023, I wanna encourage
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- 14:51Now thank you so much for joining us night on this episode of the Small Bishop podcast.
- 14:56The mission of the Small Bishop podcast is to end small business failure.
- 15:01I'm Melinda Emerson's small business lady, your host, and I will leave you with this.
- 15:04You never lose in business, either you win or you learn.
- 15:09God bless everybody.
- 15:12Thanks for listening to the small biz chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
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- 15:22fantastic information and interviews.
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- 15:30website succeed as your own boss dot com.
- 15:33Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.