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Episode 17: It's Unspeakable · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode seventeen of Ourvellio for April seventeenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Tom, Yes, thank.
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  Speaker 3: You, yay.
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  Speaker 4: Excited to be back. Yeah, the original trio.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, the Golden Trio Rio.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we have our own little Golden Trio here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Exciting. So I'm excited to be back. And I missed
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  Speaker 4: you guys, but it's been a hectic a couple months
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  Speaker 4: just getting everything sorted and settled, and yeah, excited to
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  Speaker 4: be back in a new chapter in my life. So yeah, awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And you're going to gather us all sorts of great
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  Speaker 1: port key segments.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I can't wait for that, Like I wish I
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  Speaker 4: had a go one right now. But yeah, hopefully towards
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  Speaker 4: the summer, we're going to get started. Either we're going
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  Speaker 4: to get a better like, you know, better weather conditions.
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  Speaker 1: Tom's sight Seeing Adventures.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I need to go to the Goblet of Fire. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, looking forward.
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  Speaker 2: We're excited to have you back.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Just realized too, we're episode seventeen. We're releasing on the seventeenth.
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  Speaker 2: That's really fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also so the day that we're recording this
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  Speaker 2: as well, so today's Record store Day, and Amy, Tom
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  Speaker 2: and I have been in our group chat all morning
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  Speaker 2: as we're hunting for the Harry Potter vinals today and.
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  Speaker 1: We made a and we those vinyls were record Day first,
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  Speaker 1: not exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oops, yeah, they were exclusive. So hopefully you all,
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  Speaker 2: if you went out today, were successful. Tom was the
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  Speaker 2: most successful of all of us and was able to
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  Speaker 2: get all four, and Amy and I were able to
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  Speaker 2: get two out of the four. So yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't opened them yet, so I'm going to do unboxing.
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  Speaker 1: Later, Nicety two.
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  Speaker 2: Opening vinyls is always scary because you're like, oh god,
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  Speaker 2: I hope I got a good pussing, and especially when
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  Speaker 2: it's like exclusive, You're like, I'm kind of stuck with
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  Speaker 2: what I have. So luck to all of us, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: So in this episode we are going to be discussing
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Mysteries. But first.
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  Speaker 1: To w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network.
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  Speaker 2: Now for the latest headlines. So a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: news this week, not as much as we've had, which
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  Speaker 2: has got a little break from news, but I did
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  Speaker 2: get an email the other day from Harry Potter the
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  Speaker 2: exhibition that they announced their next location will be in
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  Speaker 2: Milan and tickets are going to be going on sale
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  Speaker 2: April eighteenth, so the day after this episode comes out
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  Speaker 2: and the Harry Potter Shop Chicago is officially open. We
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  Speaker 2: talked in a prior episode about the kind of decor
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  Speaker 2: that was going to be in the store and how
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  Speaker 2: it was very gobbled of fire themed and I've seen
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  Speaker 2: a lot of clips of the store and it looks awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And of course Tom Felton, who's still kind of our
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  Speaker 2: liaison to the Wizarding World, was there to celebrate the opening,
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  Speaker 2: which I thought was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know our graphic designer, Carolyn, she said
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  Speaker 1: she was going to try and go to the shop
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  Speaker 1: and get some pictures and things inside. So once we
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  Speaker 1: have those, we'll definitely share those out.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, have to get there eventually, Yeah, for sure. And
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  Speaker 2: then also Harry Potter and the Curse Child announced that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be doing these they're calling them post
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  Speaker 2: show talkbacks, and they're doing this with Bonnie Wright and
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  Speaker 2: Jason Isaacs and essentially they're going to join after the
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  Speaker 2: show and do a little chat session with everybody in
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  Speaker 2: that show, you know, talking about really whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: their time on the films and stuff. So that's really exciting.
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  Speaker 2: So this is going to be happening on Broadway in
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  Speaker 2: New York City. So Bonnie's post show talk back is
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  Speaker 2: on April thirtieth, and Jason's is on May first, So
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  Speaker 2: as far as I know, tickets are still available, So
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  Speaker 2: if you're in the New York City area, definitely check
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  Speaker 2: that out. That sounds really cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, nice multivat multiverse clash, like right, the playworld and
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  Speaker 4: the movie you know, like the cinematic world, like everything
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  Speaker 4: you know clashing, and it's interesting. It's interesting because they're
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  Speaker 4: so different, you know, two different interpretations. And I was
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  Speaker 4: a little surprised when I heard that because I thought
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  Speaker 4: they were gonna bring maybe like someone from the past,
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  Speaker 4: like from the cast, I don't know, like Noma or
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  Speaker 4: someone who is, yeah, an OG cast member. And when
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  Speaker 4: I saw that it was them, I was like, oh, interesting,
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  Speaker 4: Like I wasn't expecting this.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be kind of cool to see like whoever's playing
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  Speaker 1: Ginny and Lucius now, Like it'd be cool just like
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  Speaker 1: to see like their interpretations and like have these two
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  Speaker 1: pairs like talk about their different ways of approaching the characters,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So, yeah, that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. It's interesting bee the start of something like
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  Speaker 2: I could totally see Tom being on board for doing
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  Speaker 2: something like this, probably James and Oliver, maybe Havana. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess the Luna is not in the show. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: not because they're like not their characters aren't in the show.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess we'll see. I guess what happens
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  Speaker 2: with this. But super cool. And then to kind of
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  Speaker 2: you know, wrap up the news more stuff about Epic Universe.
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  Speaker 2: So of course we're nearing the opening of the park.
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  Speaker 2: Very recently, media finally had their preview of Epic Universe,
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  Speaker 2: and with the media previews came the lifting of the
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  Speaker 2: band against photos and videos that was in place for
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  Speaker 2: like team members. So we are kind of getting tons
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  Speaker 2: of content on social media and YouTube about all aspects
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  Speaker 2: of the park. So a lot of these videos were
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  Speaker 2: just getting so much more detail that we weren't getting
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  Speaker 2: in sneak peeks. I've seen videos of like the street entertainment, food,
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  Speaker 2: food and reviews of the food, how the Flu network looks,
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  Speaker 2: and the queue for the Battle of Ministry, as well
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  Speaker 2: as a lot of people detailing what the ride was like.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like the circue show has not been opened
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  Speaker 2: yet for these previews, but media was kind of the
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  Speaker 2: first to be able to ride Battle of the Ministry,
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  Speaker 2: So we won't give a ton of spoilers in case
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to avoid until the park officially opens. But
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  Speaker 2: I think everything looks amazing, like even better than I pictured.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if you're interested and you don't really
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  Speaker 2: care about spoiling yourself, definitely have a look on social
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  Speaker 2: media on YouTube to see these things because it's so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought I wanted to avoid spoilers, but it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to and you also just gets me more excited
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  Speaker 2: to go it.
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  Speaker 1: All the animatronics that I've seen look incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so it's like creature animatronics, And one of them
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  Speaker 2: is like the tiniest animatronic that's ever been so you
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  Speaker 2: might be able to guess what it is, which is
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  Speaker 2: really cool. And yeah, and I guess like the animatronics
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  Speaker 2: in the Battle of the Ministry are also like amazing, And.
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  Speaker 1: Those are some of the ones I've seen, like in
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  Speaker 1: the queue and in the ride.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see any footage of the ride, so you
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  Speaker 2: need to send me that because I've been trying to ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see if I can find it again. But
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  Speaker 1: I was I was also like, again, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to spoil, but I was kind of surprised the ride vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't It didn't look like as intense as not
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  Speaker 1: you imagined, like I was expecting full on like everything else.
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  Speaker 1: So when I saw it, I was like, oh, wait
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  Speaker 1: a second, I think I can do this, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be shine if they're not stressing. I had
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  Speaker 1: to tell it's aw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been looking into it a lot because of
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  Speaker 2: like motion sickness, and actually when I was at Universal
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, I ended up not riding
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  Speaker 2: Forbidden Journey because I just got a little nervous because
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  Speaker 2: the last time I wrote it, I felt pretty sick.
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  Speaker 2: But it looks like from what I've heard is the
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  Speaker 2: ride vehicle, it looks like Tower of Terror. It's set
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  Speaker 2: up the same as like the Tower of Terror, but
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  Speaker 2: it's more like Forbidden Journey, but way less intense. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it's not the same kind of arm vehicle. But
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  Speaker 2: also a lot of people are comparing it to Spider Man,
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  Speaker 2: which also makes me a little sick. But I'll just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just take extra motion sickness medicine so I can
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  Speaker 2: get theoretical least once. But I heard a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people that do have issues with motion sickness have actually
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  Speaker 2: been okay on the ride, so they may have improved
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  Speaker 2: as well, because you kind of switch between screens and
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  Speaker 2: the animatronics, so maybe it's cleaner than it is on
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  Speaker 2: Forbidden Journey, and Forbidden Journey also just really moves you
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  Speaker 2: around with that arm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're in the wumping Willow, feels like you're
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  Speaker 4: about to fall off your your seat.
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  Speaker 2: It tilts you back so much, And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what actually makes me sick more than the screens. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's and it's like slow kind of I feel
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  Speaker 2: like if they did it quicker, i'd be okay. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't know, gring Gotts. I'm completely
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  Speaker 2: fine on so, Like, I don't think it's the screens.
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  Speaker 2: I really think it's that. But I guess the ride
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  Speaker 2: in Dark Universe, like the frank the ride that's in
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  Speaker 2: Frankenstein's Castle is the same mechanism as Forbidden Journey. I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember what it's called. That arm that it starts
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  Speaker 2: with a K, but I can't think what it's called.
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  Speaker 2: But it's apparently not as intense as Forbidden Journey still,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, I know a lot of people get sick
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  Speaker 2: on Forbidden Journey, so I'm sure they really took that
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  Speaker 2: into account.
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  Speaker 4: But they had it in three D, I think for Hollywood, right, so.
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  Speaker 2: People really sick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the three D. I've ridden it in Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: and I did not like the three D, Like it
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  Speaker 1: didn't make me feel sick, but it just never looked
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  Speaker 1: clear enough. Whereas when it's two D, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they can recalibrate it every now and then and it
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  Speaker 1: looks clear. Still, the three D just looked off the
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  Speaker 1: entire time, and it was not It wasn't good.
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  Speaker 2: It's harder to maintain that because I've noticed so, Like
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  Speaker 2: at Animal Kingdom at Disney Flight a passage for the
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  Speaker 2: longest time was one of my favorite rides, but the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of times i've written it, I've actually felt
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  Speaker 2: sick on that ride and I've been like towards the
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  Speaker 2: end and it's it's like never in focus, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what's contributing to me feeling sick. And so
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  Speaker 2: it's like you just want them to go in and
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  Speaker 2: calibrate it, but I think it's so hard and it
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  Speaker 2: just makes it. I think it's better to do just
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  Speaker 2: not the three D. But yeah, again, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: an issue with the three D on Greing.
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  Speaker 1: Gods, So yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Something they did there makes it so that it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter where you sit. I feel like you don't deal
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  Speaker 2: with that blurriness, but you get that on rides like
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  Speaker 2: Flight of Passage or Forbidden Journey. But but yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: will see. I will I will take the medicine so
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  Speaker 2: that I can get the rihtical ones. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: everything looks amazing and we're super close to the park
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  Speaker 2: being open. I did add in here because I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to mention that I know, in a few episodes ago
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  Speaker 2: when we were talking and introducing the second generation wands
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  Speaker 2: that were coming out, so the new wands that are
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: from Cosme Acajors are not the second generation Wanes. So
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: we kind of talked a little bit about that, but
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  Speaker 2: we now have confirmation that those new Wanes at Cosme's
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  Speaker 2: are the regular first generation. There are still only the
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  Speaker 2: four wands that are the second generation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, okay, we're introducing this whole new, real
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  Speaker 2: cool thing. And I will say when I was at Universal,
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  Speaker 2: I did get to see the new Patrona's term in Nocturnality.
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  Speaker 2: I walked in there as somebody was doing it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's so cool, and it's only having the four wandes
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  Speaker 2: is super limiting. And I will say, like I did
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  Speaker 2: have a look at the new ones, and they do
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  Speaker 2: look nicer in person, the four second generation ones. I
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: think they do look nicer in person than those initial pictures,
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  Speaker 2: but I still don't love them enough to want to
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  Speaker 2: buy one of them. Over these new ones coming to Cosme.
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  Speaker 1: It's just odd to me that you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: this brand new park and brand new bands, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not the brand new technology. Yeah, like that's just a
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  Speaker 1: little weird.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get a mischance for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. And I think i'd said to
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  Speaker 2: you Amy, I wonder if it's just some kind of
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  Speaker 2: production issue or like the way you know, when they
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: were getting everything made and produced the time. But I
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: still don't think that's a good excuse. And it's also
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  Speaker 2: confusing because the new Ministry of Magic maps basically like
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  Speaker 2: have the information on it for like the first and
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  Speaker 2: the second generation. So I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: were assuming these new ones they were getting at Cosmes
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  Speaker 2: were a second generation and they're just not. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely wanted to include that, just because I know
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  Speaker 2: we had said before that we thought that they were
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  Speaker 2: a second generation, but they are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't really make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: Especially since we've known this upgrade to the wand magic
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  Speaker 1: has been coming for a very long time, Like they
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  Speaker 1: put in for those patents for this before construction on
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  Speaker 1: Epic started, if I'm remembering right, So there's plenty of
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  Speaker 1: time to have worked it in somehow. I just I
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  Speaker 1: guess I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: No, And I think that honestly, Like I have kind
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  Speaker 2: of decided that I'm probably going to I've already decided
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  Speaker 2: which wand I want to get from Cosme, and I
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  Speaker 2: guess spoiler, it's not one of the original like three
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  Speaker 2: that I thought I wanted them. Oh, yes, I've changed,
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  Speaker 2: So I guess you'll have to wait and see when
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: we go amy which one.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what has happened to you, Nicole. First, she
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: sends us a text that says, I'm going to buy
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  Speaker 1: a pink T shirt like a few weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what have you done with my friend?
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  Speaker 1: Now she's changing her mind on wands?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, but I think I think what happened
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  Speaker 2: was I'm seeing all these videos right of people actually
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  Speaker 2: buying the wands, and I'm seeing them in person and everything,
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  Speaker 2: and I just like absolutely fell in love with one
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  Speaker 2: of them and I'm sold on it. And I think
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it's like, I really want the second generation, but I
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: want this other wand more for the aesthetic of it.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I really want to get my hands
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  Speaker 4: on one of the vintage robes like the house gropes,
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  Speaker 4: because I have my I have my my robes like
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  Speaker 4: from the like recent ones, but it's cool to have
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  Speaker 4: the ones from the nineteen twenties. And I really hope
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  Speaker 4: we get we get the ropes from the first and
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  Speaker 4: second movie sometime because those were graades. So yeah, in
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  Speaker 4: the meantime, I'm just really but I think it's it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty expensive, Like I think they're more expensive than the ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they are, I did hear though. I think the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: material on them is thinner, which is obviously better for Florida.
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  Speaker 2: So it seems like they've made some upgrades to them
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  Speaker 2: for the better. But yeah, I'm pretty sure they are
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: more expensive. I think they're like one hundred and twenty
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: or one hundred and thirty dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is crazy. Better save up from now.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Start a separate bank account just for Epic Universe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just make a separate one, say yeah, Epic
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  Speaker 4: Universe slash Wizarding World, and you put a little bit
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: there every month, and then then you got it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: You get a like I use. I have like a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: high yie old savings account, and I can make like
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: different vaults, so you can. You can make a vault
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  Speaker 2: that's like Epic Universe, and then you're putting money aside
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  Speaker 2: just into that vault. And because it's a high savings account,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, is your call? Oh my god, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make one.
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  Speaker 1: You should number it so that it's the Sorcerer's Stone.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, and then when and then you
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: earn interest as well on it because it's a high
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: old savings account. Absolutely, I just need to always have
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, a universal fund. I do that
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  Speaker 2: with Disney already, like I kind of every paycheck my
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: budget some money towards Disney. So good call. And I
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: think there's gonna be so much merchandise because I it's funny.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: The day that I went to Universal, I popped into
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the Preview center so that I could see yet. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: then later that day, as I was leaving the parks
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: because unfortunately it was only there for like six seven
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: hours before I had to catch my flight, I popped
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: back into the Previeus Center and they had changed it
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: all around from that morning. Oh wow, And they had
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: these new and I don't know if they were new
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: or if they had just put them out, but I
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: didn't remember seeing them that morning. They were like a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: sling bag of like the time turner, like Loko that's everywhere,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Like I don't remember seeing that bag this morning.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I think I saw that when I went. I love
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: all the Time Turner merch.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Did you guys see the popcorn bucket?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my god?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: From Tokyo.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I was like, I meet that in my life, Like
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I'm a Time Turner collector. I love everything as well,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: like everything time Turner, So I was like, I need that,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: but I think it's in Universal Japan.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I could see it coming
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: here because it's like popcorn is really big in like
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the Disney parks here, but not really in the Universal parks,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like, compared to like, but in Japan, even
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the Disney parks in Japan, their popcorn buckets are like
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: next level. There's like they just kind of go crazy
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: for the popcorn budets over.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: There, have to go to Jaman then there.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: You're closer than us now, so group.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Trip, Yeah, and we got a studio tour there as well,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: so that's.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Right feeling trip, Let's go.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, there's so much merch already, so yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: it's just just getting definitely very excited. And yeah, the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: last thing I had here was that Universal recently revealed
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: as well that previews for Epic Universe are now open
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: for annual pass holders, Universal Resort Gas, Universal Rewards, Signature
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Visa Card members, and active twenty twenty five Military Freedom
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Pass ticket holders beginning April seventeenth. I think it's through
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: like May ninth or something like that, and then there's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a bit of a gap from that ninth or whatever
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: date it is to the twenty second, but they're Universal,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: FAQ says there might be stuff added, so Amy and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I are keeping our fingers crossed that they add some
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: more for that because.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: We are going to try it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: We almost did it. We were texting at midnight to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: book for annual passworlder preview and I freaked out and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: didn't And then by the next day the one time,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the one day that we were going to go is
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the only day that has sold out.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't meant to be.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It wasn't meant to be so but yeah, either way,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: we will be going soon, probably within the next couple
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: of months here.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: So yes, I'm really excited for you guys.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Even if I have to suffer the heat of the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: summer in Orlando, I will do it, just because I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: want to go so bad.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: But we talk.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy, I mean not even not even just
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like obviously the Wizard World section is amazing, but even
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: beyond that, like I am so excited for DARKI Universe
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Dragon looks so cool too. I mean, Nintendo World obviously
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: looks amazing as well, like the whole thing. Like, I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: think Universal really outdid themselves with this, and I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: really like what was helpful and if and I kind
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: of thought this when I was at Universal because this
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: was my first time back in a while, and I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: was just like walking through the parks and the Wizarding
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Worlds are like a thing of their own in that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: park in terms of detail, and the rest of the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: park kind of almost needs to like be refurbished a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: bit to like catch up. And I think what's amazing
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: about Epic is they took the amazingness of what they
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: did with the Wizarding World and did it for the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: entire park. And that's what makes so amazing because that
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: level of detail is there in every single facet of
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that part where it's made so much in the other parks.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Right because it's all new, so it's all totally to date.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: You don't have those sections that you're like, oh wow,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we haven't had yeah, like almost in our lifetime, we
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: haven't had like a new Universal park opening like they
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: all you know, kind of have their years now.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: So Islands of Adventure Universal, They've been here for such
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: a long time, and this is like the first time
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I remember at least that we get a brand new park,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: not just a section, but you know, completely new park
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: with you know, where you have to pay your entrance
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to the park where you have to so I mean
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I must be neat, like top notch. Wow, Like I'm
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: really excited to visit sometime.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I would say too. Even the videos and pictures I've
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: seen of the food, like not even just in the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Wizard role, but the whole park. I mean it is
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: just like next level in terms of like theme park food.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Like you would look at some of these pictures and like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I if somebody showed me that picture on its own,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like I would never guess that that was the our food.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, either way, the media previews have been super
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: exciting because we were getting this first look at everything
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and it just looks so amazing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I've heard that at the Ministry is
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: probably the best Harry Potter ride, So we'll just have
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: to check it for ourselves.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully Amy and I can report back yes on
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: our thoughts, So that one will probably have to be
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit of like a spoiler filled episode because
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine Amy and I not to share everything.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Able to contain ourselves. No, just strap a little camera
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to us as we're going through the park, because feed we.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Need to be I'm okay with it. On the spoiler freak.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So like people that live live stream when they're in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the dark that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: How many times will Amy and Nicole scream or cry?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so exciting. But yeah, that was the main
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: news that I have seen.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: All right, So for our main discussion, we are going
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Department of Mysteries. We've been talking
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: about doing this for a while now, so why not.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: It's a great topic. So the Department of Mysteries is
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a department within the British Ministry of Magic whose employees
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: work to quote unravel the mysteries of the world, including
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: research into time, death, and love. According to Wizardingworld dot com,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Harry Potter dot com, Now that's true.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: We're still halty about this.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I refuse to call it that, just like I won't
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: call Twitter x right. Employees of the Department of Mysteries
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: are called Unspeakables due to the secrecy that surrounds their work.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And interestingly, this department actually predates the Ministry, which was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: established in seventeen oh seven, so the Department of Mysteries
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: was likely founded sometime in the sixteen hundreds, as there
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: is research from sixteen seventy two indicating which is in
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Wizards are Born, not Created, which that little tidbit is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: from Dumbledore's commentary in the Beetle Beetle the Bard book,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that little tiny book that was published the Charity Book.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So this department also has a great deal of independence,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and it's the only one in the Ministry that does
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: not have to answer to the Department of Magical Law Enforcement.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And according to writings by JK. Rowling, even the Minister
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: themselves has shaky authority when it comes to the Department
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of Mysteries. The fifteenth Minister rudolphuss Strange tried to shut
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: down the department's operations, but the order was just ignored
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: by unspeakables who continue to just go about their work. So, yeah, I.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Want to know, like how you be common unspeakable, Like
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: how do you get employed in this department?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Like what are the qualifications?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It cannot be the same as just like going on
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: whatever wizard indeed is and applying to a job at
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the ministry.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Huh. I don't know. I wonder if they get like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: recruited almost from like different departments, if there's people that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they're like, hmm, you are really good at keeping secrets.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Join our research team.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: What I imagine you'd have to have like skills of research
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and stuff as well. And I also like, you know
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: how you were mentioning how the department predates the Ministry itself.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So that's so interesting, right, Like, was there just this
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: group of intellectuals that kind of got together and started
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: doing this research freelance on their own and that eventually
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it just kind of got enveloped by the Ministry when
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the Ministry formed.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It's almost like because they predate the Ministry, that's why
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: they don't really answer to the Ministry, because they're almost
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: like their own entity, even though they're.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Like their offices are just at the Ministry, but they're
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a ministry organization.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: We're saying, yeah, which their offices are located on level
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: nine of the Ministry building, which is the second lowest level.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And from the Order of the Phoenix book we do
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: get a description of the entrance of the Department of Mysteries,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: which the entrance chamber is a circular room with twelve
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: identical handless doors, and the room is lit with cool
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: blue light and the floor looks like standing water, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: when the doors closed, the walls rotate, which is presumably
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: to try and disorientate unauthorized personnel from getting inside.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I find this so interesting because like how I wonder,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: like if you're a worker though in the department, like
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the way it's described in the book, Like how would
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you even know where you're going?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I have so many questions about the workers I feel
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like more than any more than.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Anything, like really mysterious, like you can almost tell it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Are they even like wizards? Like is it like actual
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: people the Unspeakables? Because it just sounds like so you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: like something like I don't know, like coming from a
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: different realm.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that day and go home and have dinner with
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: their family.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. What a great band name?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are you sure there's nothing with you rock that's
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: called Unspeakables or something?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: You know, If there isn't, somebody get on that because
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that's a great name.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: So, out of those twelve doors, we know what's behind
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a few of them. So we know six of them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: We've obviously got the Hall of par offhey, which each
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of these rooms is kind of studying something. So the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: whole of Prophecy, I assume is fate or destiny. The
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: interesting thing about this room, though, is only the people
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: who's the prophecy is about can take it off the shelf.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: So how are they studying these if they can't even
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: respect them? How did they put them there?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: How did they organize these shelves?
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I thought it was just a person, like they could
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: only hear it themselves, like I but yeah, I didn't
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: know that they are the only ones who can lift
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: it from the shelf, Like.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Someone could take it down, but unless it wasn't about you,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't it wouldn't speak the prophecy.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I think that they're the only ones who can take
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it off the shelf though, because that's why they need
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Harry to lift it off the shelf. So like once
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he handed it over to the death Eaters, they could
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: take it, but he had to physically take it off
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the shelf himself.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're magically formed, like they are materialized on the
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: shelfs themselves, waiting for their owner to pick them up.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But I mean, really, I don't know how many owners
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: would actually go and get their prophecies because it seems like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just stroll on it. Well, I mean,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: all these hogwarts dodents seem to just stroll right on it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But I can't imagine there's so many people just like
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Department of Mysteries today
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to see and you know, it's like, how do you
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: even know if you have a prophecy there about yourself?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You probably don't unless you witnessed that. You don't know.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hm, m interesting. And then are they they're not
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: in like alphabetical order or anything. I don't think, because
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: my whole question is if they had put them in
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: ap a medical order, then they need to be able
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to be touched, right, so they can be moved when
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: there's a new prophecy that needs to go in. But yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like what are they studying in there?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Or is this room more just used as like storage,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: like a record a record room that's very safe, Like
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this seems to be the safest place to store prophecies
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: except for the fact that hogwarts students and death theaters
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: are able to get in there, but yeah and destroy them.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: But where security, Like they should have the highest security level, but.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: They're just like relying on being too creepy, so nobody
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: ever wants to go there. That's their main security.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like though dark wizards like aren't put off
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: by creepiness. I don't know if their logic was the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: best there.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So then we also have the brain room, which we
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: know there's that tank of human brains in there and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a green liquid which become pretty aggressive if touched. So
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the brain room, obviously thought is the thing kind of
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: being studied in here. Thought minds that sort of thing.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sure consciousness. I think this room was always the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: coolest to me because I like studied psychology, so I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: always would think, like if I worked in the Department
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of Mysteries, I would want to be somebody that works
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: in the brain room. So I think that's room's really cool.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cool. Whose brains are these? Like? How do they
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: just like get these random humans?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: When you die and you donate, some people donate their
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: body to science. Maybe some people donate their brains to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the ministry.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Maybybe previous ministers and people who worked at the Ministry.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: The unspeakables, because you maybe it's a position. It's like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you dedicate your life to working at the Department of Mysteries,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and even after death, you are still working at the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Department of Mystery because you've got all these things in
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: your brain right that other people should not get access to.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: So it makes sense we're going to keep your brain
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: forever in this time that people don't have access.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Wonder if they study I mean, obviously we know that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: there's like human brains, but I wonder if there's also
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: like other brains, like brains of creatures, brains of other
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: species like h house elves and stuff like that. Like what,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the extent of their study?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Iss, do they have brains? Yeah, that's another mystery also,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like why did the brains have this effect on Ron,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: like when they do wrap around his arms, Like it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: such a weird thing. I've always kind of wondered, like why.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I and I think, I mean, and we'll talk about
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: this more when we talk about the like the Veil Room,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: because I had similar questions about other characters. But I
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: think it's really interesting, like in general, how certain characters
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: were more affected by certain rooms, which again, like we'll
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: talk about more in the Veil Room, but like, yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it's really interesting, Like.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't have an answer. So then we have the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: time turner room, where all the time turners are, which
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: obviously is studying time. This room contains all sorts of clocks,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: cabinet of time turners, and that bell jar that kind
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of goes through the life cycle of whatever is inside it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: making it grow from young to old over and over again. Yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: so this is an interesting room mm hmm.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And like they're like the Infinity Stones in Marvel, Like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: if you look at it, like the different things that
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: they are, it just reminded me of all the different
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Infinity stones.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: This is true. Yeah, so we do know that the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Department of Mysteries was researching time travel, so that probably
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: happened out of this room. That research was supposedly abandoned
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: after a witch named Elouise min Tumble traveled to the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: year fourteen oh two and got stuck there for a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: period of five days, causing all sorts of disruptions. People
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: ended up dead who shouldn't have ended up dead time
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like passed at a weird pace afterwards, like all sorts
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of weird stuff. But did they really abandon that research though,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: because they've got this whole room still dedicated to the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: study of time and they've got all these time turners still.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: So was it more of a research room or was
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: it more of a way to gate keep or kind
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: of like hoard all the time turners so that nobody
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: had access to them because of the danger that they presents.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Both I would yeah, I can't imagine that they would
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: just give up studying it. I think it's too cool
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: of a thing, you know, once you kind of realize, oh,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: we have the ability to, like hone time travel in
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: some way, even if we because at the time, it's like,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: right with this eloise, like you don't understand how it happened,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and as humans, that's like the first thing that we
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: need to be like, well, I want to understand how
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: this happens, and that's how research starts. And time travel
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is way too cool of a thing to just abandon
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that research. And I think obviously, you know, knowing that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you know now far in the in the future from
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: this like Hermione is granted access to a time turner, Like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: there's no way they just abandoned that research because they
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: had to figured out, like they wouldn't just loan them out,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I think, especially to a Hogwarts student, if they hadn't
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: done more research to kind of see and and also
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: like I think they kind of show us that they
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: did do more research because like Hermione's given like parameters
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and stuff for when she uses it right and how
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: it's like. So it seems like over time they learned,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: here's all the different parameters of what you need to
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: follow if you're time traveling, so we didn't have these
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: disruptions that we had, like when this aloe Is traveled
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: back and was wreaking happen and changing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: You can't go back hundreds of years, but you can
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: do a few hours.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, maybe that's why they granted McGonagall permission
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: to give her the time turner, because but I'm sure
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: she had to go onto really strict rules and guidelines,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: and you know, it was just, hey, I need a
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: time turner for my student. Okay, here you go. Like
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: it's not a book, you you know, you kind of
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: like go to the library and then you return. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: must be something that requires a lot of you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: decision making and making sure that the person who's using
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: it is responsible enough. Obviously Hermione was all those things,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: so it did make sense that they gave it to her.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: But still, you know, she was a thirteen year old preteen,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Like that's a lot.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at what happened in kurs Child all right, like.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And oh boy, so we also have the Space Chamber,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: which this room is pretty cool studying space. So it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a dark room full of planets floating in mid air,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and we know Luna uses a Reducto curse on Pluto
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to try and stop a death theater. I just think
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: this room is so cool, Like it's cool that they're
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: studying space, like you wouldn't think wizards would be, like
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, almost feels like it belongs to Muggle studies or
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: you know, like I mean, they do have astronomy, but
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: it's something like more magical. It's you know, kind of
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: like the starring constellations and you know, like it's not
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: the same as studying planets. Yeah, so it's it's interesting
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: that they have a room for space because even the
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: wizards don't have an answer to.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: That, right, It's like the Centaurs are really the ones
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: that are so in tuned to that.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think that wizards think about finding life on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Mars like Muggles do.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, And I think that like they probably
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: have the benefit of even more advanced I don't necessarily
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: even want to say technology, because it's like magic and
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like the things that they can study and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: research like in the space room would probably like blow
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: out of the water the type of research that like
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: muggles are able to do like at NASA. Yeah, like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Nasaly I said that really weird.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But like have wizards landed on the moon? Have they
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: traveled to space? I need to know?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Or do they think of it more of like is
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: there you know, or we're kind of searching for like
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: other human life, Like are they trying to search for
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: other like magical beings and which is in wizards and
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that's the kind of focus.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, is there an Elon Musk wizard counterpart.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Who has like SpaceX Wizard edition?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unspeakable there we go.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: It's really interesting, Yeah, what they think of it? Or
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: you know, how they want to approach Why are they
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: studying planets? Do they want to you know, are they
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: also interested in the same things that we are in
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: such a mystery even for Wizards that it deserves its
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: own room in the department of mysteries, Which is it's
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: really interesting.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I think so because especially because of how much like
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they even just study like I know, it's like obviously
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: more astrology and stuff than astronomy. But I think that
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: is also even just like the like the gate birth
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to kind of being like because you know, all of
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that is informed by the stars and the planets, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: so if that's something that they've always taught like at
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: wizarding schools, Like I, it makes sense to me that
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: there would be this room to study it more and
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: even to study it maybe like like we kind of said,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: they don't maybe study it so much from like a
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: philosophical standpoint, like they're actually trying to study it from
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like a true scientific standpoint, or it might be a
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: mixture of both really, but yeah, to me, it makes
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: sense that they are because of just how much it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: already part of like their curriculum and stuff. But it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like which came first. Did they kind of
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: start having creatures like the centaurs start talking about the
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: stars and all of that, and then all of a
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: sudden they became interested in space or was it they
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: just became interested in space and then that then informed
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: them studying it more from like an astrological standpoint. Yeah,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: but interesting. I would love to see this room.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I imagine like a planetarium on like steroids. Yeah, right,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: so relaxing, and I wonder if they could, like, could
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: you imagine if they could have the tech like not
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: again I keep saying technology, it's not technology, it's the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: magic of like like Hermione's bag, right, that is like
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: this extendable like you put this extendable charm on this room.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's magically possible, but could
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: you imagine if they could do that to this room
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and you just had like obviously not you could never
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: or have anything to scale of space, right, but if
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: they were able to you go into this room and
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: it extends to this level of like being way bigger
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: on the inside.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and how that could look.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Multiple galaxies?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Universal, get on this next park.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I want that takes me through the space room so awesome.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It'd be like et.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I want to go in a brain room like I
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: want to. I want to see it all. After what
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I saw they did with like just the lobby of
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the Ministry of Magic, I think they could do it. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And if this happens in the future, I Universal you
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: need to give Rebellio podcast credit.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And free tickets for life, free.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Tickets for life for giving you the idea.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: It's a great concept for a ride like Department Harry
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Potter and the Department of Mysteries.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with the way that like they just utilize
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the screen technology and they already kind of got with
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Battle of the Ministry, this whole moving through like yeah, yes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just imagine the billboards so good, it just builds itself.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: You can even go into like the Hall of Prophecies
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and like, oh, wou'd be so cool.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: All right, So then the next room we've got is
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: a locked room that we actually never see inside but
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: we know is where they study love. And yeah, supposedly
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: there's like a large fountain of amortensia in the room,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: but we don't get to see it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting that this is the room
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that is behind a door that's locked at all times,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: because you don't, i mean, love doesn't seem as like
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: scary as like some of these other rooms, you know.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But I also wonder too if, like, because they've got
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: this like fountain of amortensia in there, obviously we know
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that this can be a very very dangerous potion if
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: obtained by the wrong person, and it can have like
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: really I think serious ramifications and so it makes sense
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that it seems like such a like non scary potion,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: but at the same time seems like, yeah, this is
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: something you don't want people to get their hands on.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: So in that way, I think it does make sense
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: that it's locked. I feel like there's got to be
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: more reasons, you know why.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, yeah, they say love is the most
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: powerful weapon, so like we're good or bad sometimes like
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's also something like like the planets.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I feel like this is at the same level in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: the sense that, wow, you know, wizards are just as
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: invested in this as we are as well, because we
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: also wonder what love is, why does it happen the
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: way it happens, why does it unravel the way?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: And I think it's really interesting. It has its own room,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: but it makes sense because it's such a powerful feeling,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: it's such a powerful weapon, and the fact that it
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: has a fountain of homortensia, Like we know that there's
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: good left potions and badly brewed love potions, like you know, secondhand,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: so maybe they're as well, like yeah, you know, trying
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: to create the perfect love potion, but that cannot you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: it's always impossible to do like bringing people from the dead,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: and I think in every single fiction, novel, movie, whatever,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: those are the two things that are always like general
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: like rules, like I cannot make someone fall in love
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: with you, and I cannot bring somebody back from the dead.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: So it's really something too like think about because you
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily think they would have a room because also
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I imagine this pink, bubbly room, but I don't know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: it's probably not like that. But yeah, wonder when I got.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Me thinking too, like if really this room does focus
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: just on love or just emotions in general, and love
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: is just kind of one of the bigger ones. But
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, I mean there's such an emphasis
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: in this series on love. I mean, at the end
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: of the day, like that's what protects Harry, right, is
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: this like mysterious love protection that is like in his blood?
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And I totally see that being something that they're studying
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: in this department, Like how does this sacrifice of love
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: translate to all of a sudden you've got this protection
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: and you're in the blood because you shared blood with
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: somebody who sacrifice, Like, I have so many questions about that,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And also I mean, you know Dumbledore too, you know
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: this really, you know Bright Wizard, who's been really interested
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: his whole life, I think in studying mysterious things, you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: and everything, says himself that he thinks that love is
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the most mysterious subject of study that they do at
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: the department and is the most powerful force to ever
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: exist in the universe, which kind of seems so crazy,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I think when you think of everything, Yeah, just how
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: much focus is given on on love, But like there's
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: so many It's like love is such an umbrella thing
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: with like all these other little things that can happen
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: and are influenced by love or lack of love, right,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: So like it's that was a very vague disription, but
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: hopefully you would know what I mean. I can't even
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: put it into words. Really that thinking about it that way,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: it would make sense that they would devote so much
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: time to studying love because it affects so many other things.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: It's not just this one sole thing. Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, So we move on from love to death
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: with the death Chamber aka the Veil Room, which I
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: know we've talked about before, but that's this room where
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you know, there's the raised kind of benches around it,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and then in the middle is the dais with the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: veil and all of that.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this room is I think probably like the most mysterious,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: like in a way. And I think that similarityly to
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: how earlier we were talking about Ron kind of having
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: this weird kind of thing with the brain room. We
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: see this a lot in this room. That's kind of
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: what I was referring to. I think that, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Hermione becomes very unsettled by the archway, but Harry is
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: so drawn to it, you know, and he talks about
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: how it has a kind of beauty about it, and
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: he's so intrigued by it to the point that he
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: just had such this He describes it as having a
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: very strong inclination to climb right up on the dais
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: and walk through it, almost like it's calling to him
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and drawing him, and you know, and then as he
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: gets closer, he hears this faint whispering. And it always
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: made me think, like, is there something built into this
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: veil to purposefully lure you, you know, if you start
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to get close. And I kept just thinking of like
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: sirens and like a siren song, and how that is
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: meant to like lure sailors, you know, into the water,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: and it's very similar in the way right that it's
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: these whispers and these voices, and you're just like what
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: is that and you're just it's like Hermione had to
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: like forcibly pull Harry away and snap him out of it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think because Harry's basically marked for death, do
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you think that's why the veil is like calling to him,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: because it's like, we recognize you, You're supposed to join us,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: And he's like subconsciously like, yeah, this is what I'm
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, Like I'm supposed to go through this
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: veil because I'm supposed to die. But obviously he doesn't
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: know that yet.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: It's like he cheated death in a way.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: And then neither can live while the other survives. You know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know that he has to die in order
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: to defeat Valtimore. Yet he'll find that out. But it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: almost like, yeah, it's like it's calling to him because
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to die.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Possibly because you know, I was also thinking and another
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: thing I noticed was that Hermione really seems to be
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: like the only person who's not entranced by this veil.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: And she's kind of the one. I feel like it's
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: still like level headed in this whole moment of like
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: we need to get out of here, like there is
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: something wrong. In that chapter two, you have Neville and
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Ginny that seemed to also be very entranced by the veil,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: maybe not to the extent of Harry, you know, but
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Hermione also kind of has to pull them all away
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: from it and it and I kind of like I
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: had that question of like why do we think that is?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: But it's like, in a way, did Neville almost like
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: cheat death too, because like the prophecy could have been
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: about him? And then Ginny also kind of cheats death
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: in the whole chamber of secrets and being in the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: chamber Yeah, I mean Luna can hear the way whispering
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: too though, So that made me think, is this similar
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to like fstorals, like you can see the best rules
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: if you've experienced or witnessed death, and that's why Harry
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I can hear the whispering.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I like maybe Hermione was the one who
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: had least to lose at that point, like she hadn't
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: suffered probably anything close to someone dying, but Harry did,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: like Luna did. Uh, well Neville basically his parents are
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: still alive, but in such conditions that so, and then
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: you have Ginny and well, we don't really know if
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Ginny suffered anything at that point, but I.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Think other than the whole chamber of secret thing, I
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: feel like that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it can call yeah, people like
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like pulling you in like you've cheated death.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's the whispers of people
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: that you've lost or something that you've you know, like
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: best rules, So it manifests in a much noticeable and
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: bigger way than those who haven't been through that. So
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: maybe that's why Hermione was so let's say conscious at
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: that time. And you know, I don't know, could be
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: related to that too, like both.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that too, like if you had people
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: waiting for you on the other side, would you hear
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the whispers? And we know that Harry and Luna do
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: have people waiting for them on the other side of death,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: not so much the others, So maybe that's why those
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: two can hear the whispering.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really kind of scary. I wonder
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: like the people that work in that room if they're
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: is like really certain kind of I don't know, credentials
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: that you have to meet, because if there's something about
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: the veil that is luring you or is potentially like
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: you don't have somebody there to snap you out of
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: it or pull you away from walking in like you
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: have to. I don't know. I feel like you have
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: to be at some kind of level to like be
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: able to withstand that if you're in that room, right, Yeah,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: lots of questions. I know we have lots of questions
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: about this room when we.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Did our Yeah, But at the same time, you need
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: to have some sort of connection with a veil to study,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: to study it and see, you know, how far it goes.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: So maybe it's a two person job. Maybe there's one
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: that you know, uh stacks you ride out of it
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: of it, and one that's kind of like pulled in
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: because I can't see just one. Like if it was Harry,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: he could have probably just crossed the veil that would
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: be it. So it's good that he had to hurt
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Minding next to him. But at the same time, I
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: think Hermione would be able to contribute as much as
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: he would because he's sensing things from that that she hasn't,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: so yeah, it could be just a also group of
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: people who work there. Like I don't know, speakables are
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: such a mystery at this point.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: When I think we talked in our Unanswered Questions episode
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: about I feel like I remember mentioning like wondering if
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: part of what they're studying as well is like the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: ability to like cross over into like the land of
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the dead and be able to come back, and if
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: that's maybe one of the things that they're looking at.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And I just kind of wonder how many unspeakables have
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: been lost to the rail for the same right study,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: because I'm sure they haven't known that. It's probably an
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: ongoing thing. Yeah, just yeah, very interesting, and I feel
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: like answers that will never you know, that will never
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: get unfortunately mm hmm. But I want to know, because
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: like my serious is in there, you know, and I
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: want to so I want to know more about it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: And it's so different what happens to him in the
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: films than the book, because in the film, Belatrix literally
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: kills him with the kill with the killing curse. But
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, the book, he gets he gets
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: pushed into the veil. So I think the book raises
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: more questions in that way because in the films he
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: just he he can tell that he died by the
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: killing curse.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: But I I remember when the book came curse.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I think he got hit with like a curse that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the killing curse.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: They didn't specify what curse. It was so like people
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: were like, well, was he just stunned? But then the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: movie came out and it was a vetic cadaver or
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: green and everyone was like, oh, which is not happened?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Like I think that makes sense, Like I feel like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: it made sense in the movie to do it that way.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: So it was very clear, like we're killing this character.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And it was probably because people were so like uncertain,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they were probably like, we got to.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Make this question, right. Did he die because he fell
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: through the veil or did he die because of the curse.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: My belief is that he died because he fell through
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the veil. He was just kind of at the wrong
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: place at the wrong time when he was hit with
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that curse. Why we're dueling right in front of this
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: mysterious veil, I don't know. Not one of the smarter moves,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: but I think passing through that veil is ultimately what
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: caused his death, because it's like this one way, one
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: way highway right into the afterlife, but right in the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: movie it kind of just gets rid of that question.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Also the fact that speaking of like, you know, life
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: and death, how wizards can choose if they want to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: come back as a ghost. But they say, like those
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: who are smart don't. So I'm guessing like everyone who
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: passes away chooses not to come back as one. But
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: it's really interesting to think about that and be like, Okay,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: so they know what happens in the afterlife. At least
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: they have that sorted somehow. So yeah, like it's it's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: really interesting how they how they treat death in the series.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, they even if you return
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: as a ghost, even if they paint you in a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: portrait that has your characteristics and you're you know, your personality,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: it's you know, you can never come back from death,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: and it's as deep as that. Not even magic can
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: bring you back, same as love. Not even the most
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: powerful love potion can imitate that, and such a universal thing.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: So it's great that they have these rooms, Like it's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: such a an interesting thing that they're studying these two
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: things that are so unattainable even with magic, and yeah,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: I like, you know, it's such a mystery what this
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: room actually you know, what's behind the veil? Like what's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: behind what happens to you? You know, to get like
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: are you in some sort of like a limbo or something.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Are you like in between two worlds for the rest
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: of eternity to get to move and you know, just
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: choose your path, you know what I mean, like in
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: the afterlife, like.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I picture like and I don't know again, I can't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: remember if I thought this when we talked about it before.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like I definitely remember mentioning Coco and like
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: that whole thing. But I also I can't remember I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: remember said this before. But as you were describing that, Tom,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like all I could picture was from Pirates of the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Caribbean and like Davy Jones Locker and like how like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: when they're on the ship and they're passing through like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: all of these souls that are just in the water
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: like moving to that and I just like picture that
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: behind the veil. It's like this constant or you get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: that description a lot in like the Underworld, like like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: with Hades and the way that they're like kind of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: on just this never kind of ending journey. And another
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: thing you meant you said that kind of like struck
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: out to me is you know, like even in magic,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: when we have something like the Resurrection Stone that is
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: something that's like bringing someone back, it's still never even
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: actually bringing them back. It's like it's all this like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: faux pov like actually bringing someone back. There's no way
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: to actually do it. But it seems like the Resurrection
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Stone kind of gets the closest, but not even that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: can fully bring somebody back.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like everything comes with the price, no matter what.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: So it would defy the law of time in a way.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: We talked about this outleas and how much her going
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: back in time affected all these other things. If you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: were able to just bring people back from the dead,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: you're changing core events and history and it could just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: upset the entire balance of everything of time, if you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: were able to bring people back that are not meant
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: to still be in that time. Yeah, it's all interplayed.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Like I've I've always thought like why didn't Dumblore go
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: back in time and save Harry's parents, and all of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: these questions that you.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Could it would change all the events.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know things that seem to be plot holes,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: like initially when you start digging deeper and you start
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: studying the consequences of time traveling and everything that you said, like,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: you can't just do it. You can't just undo something
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: because of the consequences how much it would change and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: you know, the balance in the world would just go
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: upside down and it could be catastrophical. So it does
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: make sense why time turners are used only for like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: really short periods of time to make sure that nothing,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: you know, is changed, like nothing big or even small.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: I think, like you can't change anything.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Well, when we see that encouraged child right like Altimore day,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: it's the whole consequence of them changing something and obviously
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: they're able to change things back right and rewrite stuff,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: but that's not always the case anything. Especially at the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: end too, when we get that really emotional scene of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: you know, Harry and everybody like viewing you know, the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: death of Lily and James again and you know it's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and how much it's like that call of like they're
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: right there, like let me just save them, and it's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: like you can't because you like nothing that has ever happened,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: would happen if you save them in that moment, like
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: it off sense the balance of everything, and yeah, time's crazy,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you know when you think about it, and.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah you could just go insay trying to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: think of all these loopholes and things, and you know,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: like it's it's it's a really complex thing.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I watch a lot of time travel like stuff, and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: like Doctor Who especially has like really given me a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: lot of like things. And you know in every different,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: every different like medium treats, they had they developed their
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: own rules for time travel, right, Like certain things in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Doctor Who is different than time travel and Harry Potter
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: that's different in Outlander that's different in all these other
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: things that involve time travel, but they all kind of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: have that same basic rule of like there are core
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: events that you cannot change because of the domino effect
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: of changing that, like that law still holds true, and yeah,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: it's that's true.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: Crazy, Yes, Like you cannot see your own self, whether
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: it's in the in the past. Yeah no way, Like
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: that's like rule number one almost. Yeah, so cool, love time.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: So that's only six of the twelve doors. So what
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: do we think is behind the other six doors? Do
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: we have ideas.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Well? Because we just talked about the death room. One
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: thing I thought was like a juxtaposition to that, so
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: like studying like life and like the soul.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes sense because like I feel like they
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: would be maybe continuing Flamel's kind of studies of like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the elixir of life or even wore cruxis because that's
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: kind of the like dark taboo thing that I feel
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: like Department of Mysteries would start looking into, but like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: just to understand it.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: The extension, right, or like the extension of life and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: studying what what do we need to do to like
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: extend life or what are the what are the key
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: facets of life and the soul that make it go away?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Or even like what you were saying too, Tom about
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: like people being able to come back as ghosts. Like
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I know that's still like that's more about like the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: death realm, but I could also see it also being
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: study in a room about life and soul and like
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: what needs to happen to like have your soul continue
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: on in a certain way that isn't death, I mean,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: because at that point it's different than death, right, Like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: the act of death has already happened, but there's this
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: continuation and like where do you study that? About that?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought of like matter, because we
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: know that there's limitations to magic when it comes to transfiguration.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: And conjuring things, food and all of that, Like you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: can't really make something of nothing, So would they be
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: studying matter and how that all works to see like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: why that might be and maybe push those limitations a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: little bit mm.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Hm m hm.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Some I thought of like inexperience, just kind of
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: like a general like experimental room where like they study
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: creating certain potions, the effects of certain potions, and also
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: like even possibly the creation of like magic and spells,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: like new magic and spells, like I feel like you
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: need to have like obviously we know that, like you know,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Snape creates a spell and everything, so people can still
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: do it, but I feel like these official spells and everything,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: there should be this like controlled environment where those things
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: are created and stored. And I think similarly I had
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: thought of like there, I feel like there would be
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a room studying magic itself, like the essence of magic,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: because it's like when it they have a lot of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: questions about this thing that they all have and right,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: maybe that goes hand in hand in this experimental room
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: of creation of magic and spells. That's like an offshoot
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: of understanding how magic itself works. Why do we have
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: like why do we have this power in us?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: What is it about us that gives us this ability
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: to have this force?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, which I mean we do know that they
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: studied enough to know that, like which is in wizards
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: are born not so it would totally make sense if
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: they had a room dedicated to that sort of thing.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of like Star Wars
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: a bit, like I'm always the one to bring in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: other fandoms here, but like it reminds me of like
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: the prequels introduce us to the idea of mediclorians, which
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: is controversial. Some people don't love this idea. I like it,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: but it kind of is like these medchlorians are what
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the count of mediclorian that you have in your body
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: is kind of like what dictates the amount of the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: force that you have. It's like it's like this, it's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: this biological manifestation of the force. And I could see,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: you know, in the Department of Mysteries studying something similarly
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: is there something about our biological makeup that allows us
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: to have this magic, especially because we know that there
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: is like this genetic component to it with some exceptions,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: and that studying the exceptions, right, how do you have
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: two magical parents and possibly have a child that doesn't
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: have magic? Or where does magic come from when you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: have two muggle parents? You know, like just understanding like
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: the biology of that.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, those are all good ones. Yeah, huh, it's.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Deep, it is It's this might be the first time
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: that's ever left us speechless.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: I wonder if we'll ever know what it's behind the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: other doors.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: I mean I feel like, yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: That's been great, and like, no, like the encyclopedia that
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: we were like supposed to get that we didn't really
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: almanac is really not the same. That would have been
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a great place.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: She confirmed it so many times that we were going
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: to get one in her website and everything, and then.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: We just get this almanac.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we got Potter More. So when whenever we
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: got Potter More was like, Okay, that's the encyclopedia you
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: were asking for, But it was like, no, I was
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: expecting like a thousand book page with every single thing
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: that we you know, didn't know or mysteries, unsolved questions.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: There are some really good q and as with J. K. Rowling,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: like after definitely hollows and she answers a lot of questions.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: But yeah, these things are left, you know, like in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: the air, and you never really know what these are.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: But it's so interesting thing, and you wonder, you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: does she even know did she even think it was
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: necessary to for the story? I wouldn't be surprised as
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: she did though if there was, like what these other
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: six stores are, but they were not pivotal to the story,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: so why you know why diving into it?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like some of the rooms we saw weren't
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: even necessarily like that made me wonder, like the rooms
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: that we did see, like why were those the rooms
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: we saw? Obviously the death chamber right, that was like
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: a foreshadow of what was to come.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I think like.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: The whole locked room with the love I think that's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: also even a little bit of an easter eggy shadow thing.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: But like the space in the brain room, it kind
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: of just like cool, Yeah, you know, other than that,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it didn't necessarily play a role or anything.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, an action sequence or two something.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and obviously Time Turners was a whole kind
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: of callback to that whole thing. Yeah, it's like, why
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: don't introduce something that's such a cool topic to them,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: like it was a little bit of it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: It gives us so much to talk about here, though,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: this is true.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if we ever get that Universal Theme Park expansion,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: that little ride, who knows who you might get those answers.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe people don't care as much as we
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: do about this. I'm sure people. I'm sure people do.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: But I wonder in the fandom in general, are people
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: like losing sleep? And I'm thinking about the Department of Mysteries.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Every night I go to bed. It's behind the other six.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Doors tonight, I'm thinking about it when I'm laying in bed.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: For a little title screen pops up twenty years later,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: the doors.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be on. My dad sad, like, I
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: still don't know what's on the doors in a department of.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Who? Yeah, anyway, that's that.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah huh, yeah, No, this was a good topic because yeah,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: we're kind of completely speechless.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Now, got my mind whizzing.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, h oh, let's move on then, Special.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Okay for this uh. For this week's rotating segment, we
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: chose against Specialite's rebellion and speaking of love Chambers and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Apartment of Mysteries. And you know, it was a good
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: opportunity to mention one of the most famous potions. It's mortensia.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: So we want to discuss a little bit about, you know,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: giving a little recap I'm sure everyone remembers, but about
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: what it is and the effects, and a little bit
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: about the etymology and its origins. And yeah, so as
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: we all remember, it's the most powerful potion in the world,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: and quite possibly one of the most dangerous ones. And
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: we are speaking in the context of a room with
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: polyjuice potion, very deserum fields felices, and so that gives
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: you a little bit of a hint of how powerful
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: and dangerous it is. It smells different to each person
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: according to what they're attracted to, and it is recognizable
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: by its mother of pearl sheen and spiraling steam. According
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: to Professor Slughorn, it can cause serious infatuation or obsession
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: in the drinker as it is impossible, as we said,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: to manufacture or imitate love. So it is believed to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: have been created or at least perfected by a famous
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: potiononeer and pioneer of love potions called Laverne the Montmorency,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: and she was a raven claw and she earned her
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: own chocolate frog, as seen in the first Harry Potter
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: video games. So that's that. So a little bit about
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: the etymology of the words. So this word has two
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: Latin roots. So one of them is Amore, which is
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: a Roman god of love, and the word amor means
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: love in both Latin and Spanish. So for me, whenever
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I read about that, being a Spanish speaker, I was like, yeah,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: more retention. It makes sense, like it's love, it's not
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: you know, so so yeah, and it can refer to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: romantic or passionate love, or affection and fondness. But interestingly,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: the god Amor is more famously known as Cupid, so
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: he's that you know image you see in cards and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: visual media, this youthful figure or naked winged boy carrying
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: a bow and quiver field filled with arrows. So that's
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: the part of the first part of the word. So
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: for the second, so we got there was two options.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: So one of them is Tensha, with derives from tempto
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: in Latin, which is to try to influence or tamper with,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: and is also related to temptation in a moral or
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: emotional sense, but it could also derive from attensha, which
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: means attention. This is more late Latin or medieval Latin,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: so I think either way, it's very much like they're
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: all pretty much related as it's wanting to tamper with
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: or influence someone else's I don't want to say emotions
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: because it's not what you're actually doing, because you're not
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: creating this person becoming. It's more like an infatuation and obsession,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: and also you want that person's attention. So I think
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: both options are equally valid, and they speak as you know,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: to what the word and the potion itself really speaks of.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's an interesting, really simple word. But at
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: the same time, it's interesting that these two have, like
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like opposites like love, attention and
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: temptation and also obsession, so it's kind of like it's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: something dangerous going on. So yeah, I thought it was interesting.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've also seen the interpretation of tensia in Latin
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: and having a couple of meanings, one of them being
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: related to the concept of holding or keeping something, which
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: also makes a lot of sense here, right, especially when
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: you're using it. You're you're like doing it to keep
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: this thing for yourself. Yes, And then I think I've
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: also seen something it's like the other meaning it's related
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: to a word like temptatio or something like that. I
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: saw and this relates to the word temptation. But I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: think really that holding or keeping something and that having
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: the intention of like really, oh yeah, and you kind
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: of mentioned the tenshia with temptation. It's like two different
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: words that are kind of similar. But yeah, that holding
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: or keeping something like really stood out to me, especially
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: when you're like using the love potion kind of for
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: in a bad way. You're really trying to use it
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: to hold on to something.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Like to trap someone.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and keep them for yourself.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: And can sive the baby under that potion?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Which is that the Dark Wizard because conceived babies while
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: under this potion.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is not clear though if she used armortensia
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: or she used her own concoction, like her own like
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: like household potion. Like that's true, so it's never really confirmed,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: and it's confirmed that he was conceived with a love potion,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: but it's never really confirmed if it's armortensia, because but
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: I think that the effects could have been the same.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Right, Like is it is mortensia like our only love
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: potion or is there variations of the you know, the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: love potion. And so it's like maybe they all have
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: some type of similar property that makes them a love potion.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: But they all and maybe this is something they study
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: in the love room, the effects of different types of
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: love potions. Mhmm, yeah, but they all I feel like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: they all have to have one core thing that's similar
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: in all of them that makes them that love potion.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, well because we see Fred and George
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: have that line of love potions as.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Well, but they are ont like.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're kind of secondhand, like yeah, yeah, not
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: top notch quality, but yeah maybe for something like really yeah.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Like a joke kind of Yeah. It's like it doesn't
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: even seem like it's it's not to the level of life,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: you know, even like ron like being under like a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: love potion, Like it's not even to that extent. It's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: it's very much just I don't know, I think of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: like I don't know, I guess maybe think of something
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: like not like I don't know I can't think of
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: a candy that we have, like in the Muggle world
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: that gives you like temporary like obviously affects to the
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: the thing the effect of a love potion, but something
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: that just kind of very temporarily like messes with your
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: senses in like a funny way, but very quickly goes
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: away before you could ever.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: Like a good meal unless you finish it.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Gone. I think when in the movie, right when they're
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: eating the sweets that like cause them to like make
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: animal sounds, they don't like turn into that animal. They
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: don't remain acting like that animal. It's like, hey, I
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: pop this in and then I wore and then I'm done.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: It's like maybe Fred and George have it in this
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: this very basic level, and maybe it's not even really
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: truly like a love potion. It's more this like simulation
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: of a love potion, but it doesn't actually have the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: properties of a love potion.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like version yeah, mm hmm m.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a very interesting potion.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's one that on the surface just
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: seems like so good, you know, but really I feel
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: like it is like if you were to classify potions
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: into like this is a good potion, like an antidote,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: right that saves you. And these are all these potions
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: that are really bad, Like I feel like amortensia is
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: more on that bad category good.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Like how can you think of is there any way
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: you could think of it having a good use like
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: for good? Like why would you useta?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Like I know because I think like I don't know,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: we need to go into the love chamber and study love.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I think that like for all the reasons of good love, Right,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: that's developed naturally. You don't need a potion to develop that.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: And so any way that if it's already not developing
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: naturally for a reason, there's a bigger issue there or
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: there's a bigger thing that's there and you can't Like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: it's like I don't feel like you can force love. No,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: you can try, but you're just pretending and it always
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: comes out in the end. And I just know I
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: can't think of a good reason you would know?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: And why are they teaching it at Hobwarts, Like why
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: are they six years curriculum?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Like that.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Terrible idea?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Right, if we're not teaching polyjuice potion, we shouldn't be
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: teaching ambert.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: Right, Like all those potions are sketchy if you think
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: about it, like, why are they teaching those things to
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: six Yeah, to six years?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Like no, I think unless your potion is like an
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: antidote to something, it's probably not good like or yeah,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: like I don't know, Yeah, you're very interesting.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: It's any.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Well. Speaking of questions, last week we asked what is
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: your favorite Wizarding World food or one that you would
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: like to try, and we got a few responses. So
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Jerry shared that she has hosted several Harry Potter parties
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: and events during the time the books were coming out,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and she made her own attempts at them foods. She
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: made a treacle tart using important English Lyle's Golden syrup
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: and it was very tasty. She said, if you like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: sweet things but rich enough and difficult enough to make
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: in small amounts that she doesn't make regularly for just
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: herself and her husband, you would have to make this
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: kind of for a largest group. She said that she's
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: also made some homemade attempts at butter beer, starting with
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: cream soda and butterscotch syrup and a small scoop of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: vanilla ice cream which was okay. And trifles have been
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: something that she makes for fancy desserts for years, and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: some cookies with pumpkin and chocolate chips that she calls
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: pumpkin pasties, and she says, although I'm not sure that
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: that's what JKR intended, She said, I don't remember the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: rest of the menu at those events. It was rather
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: long ago now. Jerry also goes on to list that
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: some of her favorite Wizarding World theme park foods are
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: hot and frozen butter beer, peppermint toads, fudge from Honey
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Dukes and Flooring, and Fortescu's ice cream. She notes that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: now she is gluten free, so she can't have some
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: of her favorites like gingernuts and fish and chips, but
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: that Universal has done a decent job overall was including
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: some gluten free alternatives. Jerry also shared that she loves
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: the fee scenes in both the movies and the books,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: as well as the meals made by Mollie and Queenie,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: and also wants to eat Jacob's pastries. She says that
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: my one consolation for the fact that it seems like
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Epic Universe didn't see fit to have a branch of
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: Jacob Bakery and the Wizarding Paris, but now that she's
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: gluten free, she shouldn't eat them anyways, and she said
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: that she is going to get a fantastic quality Baked
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Goods T shirt to enjoy, which that's another thing we've
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: gotten some look at Kowalski Bakery stuff that is coming.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: So thanks for bringing that up, Jerry, since the shirts
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: are gluten free and even with a pastries on the front.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure. Yeah, some of the things that
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: you called out and that Jerry like, I Yeah, I
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: think Amy and I talked about or Amy definitely talked
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: about ginger nuts I had. I had my first one
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: when I was universal because I always get pumpkin pasties
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: when I go to Honey Dukes, but I decided to
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: try the ginger newt. It was very good, and actually
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I also because I was there during butter beer season,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: so I did try that butterbeer cream puff that is
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: new this year, and I will say that it was good.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: I think my expectations were built up pretty high based
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: on all the reviews I saw, and I didn't think
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: it necessarily lived up to the reviews. But it was
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: pretty good. But all day I wish I had like
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: just gone to Florian's and got an I scream instead,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: but it's it's pretty good. Not my favorite butter beer treat,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: but it's good. And then also Lucy shared with us
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: that she wants to try hot butter beer, and Lucy,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: you absolutely should try when you come to the parks
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: because in my opinion, it is the superior form of
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: butter beer.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, we've definitely talked about this before, and I.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Feel like.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: We can't find common ground here. It's what I came.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Was it frozen for you?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, frozen is my.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Second favorite, So it's you know, there's just something about
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: the hot butter beer that is just so great.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: It's so creamy and so good.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have to give it a chance again, Like,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: but I'm afraid I won't like it.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: So no, it's so good, and like, I'm not somebody
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: who loves things that is super super sweet, and it
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't taste sweet and sickly. I feel like it has
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: the potential to, but it doesn't. But in your defense,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: the frozen is also my like second favorite form, so yeah,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: after the ice cream, Oh that's so good.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Ice cream is.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: So good and I'm not a huge ice cream fan,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: but I do love the ice cream, and they did
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: have while I was there, the like ice lolly butter
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: beer one, So it's not the subserve. It's like the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: popsicle that came out last year during butter beer season.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: But I think this year, I feel like we talked
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: about it in news. I think it's going to be
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: around all the time now. I think they're always going
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: to have it. But it's like on a stick, and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: apparently that one's pretty good, so I actually might give
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: that a try, like when I'm there for like longer
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: and have more meals. But I did also see in
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't see them in Honey Dukes, but I didn't
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: really go over to where they have the birdie pots.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: But in Sugar Plums they had the butter beer gummies
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: that you.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: Can get on the barrel, get them inside the barrel.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the barrel the barrel, which so cool.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I wish I had.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Such a collectible I have that. Yeah, it's so.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Good, so cool. But at Sugar Plums you can get
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: an individual like and you know how you can scoop
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: like in the bag. They have the gummies separate and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: they also had jelly beans, which I meant to go
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: back and get and I had to rush to the
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: air for good. Yeah. So I'm hoping they just keep
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: the butterbeer jelly beans all the time and that's not
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: just a butterbeer season exclusive, because I think those would
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: probably be really good and taste like a nice butter scotch.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The gummies not so much like they're good. They're
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: fine for what they are, but they're probably too Like
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: my gummies, I need them to be like really sweet,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: and I don't feel that with these. So it was like, Okay,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: yes I got to eat them. But you know, when
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: you're eating something because you have to because it's already
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: almost on its expiry dates, You're like, I'm not doing
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: this away, so I'm just gonna not enjoy. But it's yeah,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: it's not something that I was enjoying eating. So I mean,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: I thought it was totally worth it because of the barrel.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: It's such a great that's great. Yeah, but yeah, I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: wouldn't I wouldn't try it again.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say. I think the thing with the
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: butter beer stuff is that it all tastes slightly different.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: They don't seem to be able to have a consistent flavor,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: and then you get this whole range of whether it
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: like has a lot of flavor or doesn't have a
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: lot of flavor. That was the thing I had with
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: this butterbeer cream puff is I don't feel like it
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: had this strong flavor of butter beer. It just felt
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: like I was eating a cream puff that had a
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: little butter beer cookie on it with maybe a hint
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: of like a caramely flavor. But yeah, yeah, the hot
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: butter beer was my favorite butter beer thing I got.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So for our discussion question, we wanted to
• 1:33:56
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• 1:33:59
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• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah awesome, interesting episode.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely great conversation.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, glad, we Yeah, I'm really curious please answer our
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: discussion question because you know, as you know you heard
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: it left us speech just trying to answer this question.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm really curious to hear what you all think
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: about this and even some of the other questions that
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: we had in this I know that I will be
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: churning my brain a little bit about this topic for sure.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, all right until next time. I'm Amy, I'm Nicole,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm Tom.