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Drea de Matteo on Sopranos, The Mafia, and Hollywood · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather MacDonald
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. As always, I have
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  Speaker 1: a great show, lots of juicy topics, and a fabulous interview. First,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I'm getting ready to pack because I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to Minneapolis. I will be there this Friday night at
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  Speaker 1: the Fillmore Theater with the hilarious blue-eyed beauty, Chris Frangiola.
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  Speaker 1: fun comedy that's nonpolitical. Also, Chicago. I will be there then.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be in Chicago. You guys know
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  Speaker 1: I love this city. It's one of my favorite places
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  Speaker 1: to perform. And I'll be at the Vic Theater with, again,
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  Speaker 1: Chris on this Saturday, October 19th. And then a couple
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  Speaker 1: weeks off. And then I am back in Irvine Improv,
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  Speaker 1: which I love. two shows of stand-up on Friday and Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: November 8th and 9th, and then a totally different live
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  Speaker 1: changes your life. Okay, sometimes there's gifts that I don't
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  Speaker 1: ask for that just come into my lap. Yesterday, it
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  Speaker 1: was Tuesday morning, and I I didn't know what I
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  Speaker 1: was going to do with the day. I actually had
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  Speaker 1: a little time off. I was going to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: cut some clips from the Spencer Pratt show, figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to, you know, which great golden moments. There were
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  Speaker 1: so many to choose from. Do a little Pilates, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get some stuff done. And then I wake up to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that on Real Housewives of OC, which if
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  Speaker 1: you're not watching it, that is okay because you're going
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy this story like you always do. Tamra Barney Judge, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Barney was her first married name. She goes by Tamara Judge.
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  Speaker 1: She's been on the show for like 17 years. She's
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  Speaker 1: having a tough season because she has just come out
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  Speaker 1: guns a-blazing, very cruel to Shannon Bedore. So right now,
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  Speaker 1: people don't like Tamara that watch the shows. As you know,
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  Speaker 1: we watch Housewives like someone would watch sports. So there's
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  Speaker 1: times where they really are excited about their team and
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  Speaker 1: they don't like what the quarterback is doing or they
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  Speaker 1: don't like that they changed managers or owners or coaches
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the way people get. So they're watching
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  Speaker 1: this show, which is very entertaining this season, and they
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  Speaker 1: are not liking how cruel and awful Tamara is being.
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  Speaker 1: And now the audience is quite sophisticated and they understand
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  Speaker 1: that people have to come up with things and act
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  Speaker 1: crazy or whatnot, to keep their job, to have something interesting,
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  Speaker 1: so that the people keep bringing them back, meaning the people,
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  Speaker 1: Annie Cohen, bravo. Tamara is now saying that she has autism,
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  Speaker 1: and that is why she can't be empathetic to other people,
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  Speaker 1: because we've seen her be so cruel and insensitive and awful,
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  Speaker 1: especially this season, to what Shanna's going through, seeing her
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  Speaker 1: ex-boyfriend be in love with another cast member. And dealing
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  Speaker 1: with getting a DUI and all of that and being
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  Speaker 1: sued on top of it. So people didn't think she
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  Speaker 1: was a very good friend to her. So anyway, she
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  Speaker 1: has a show with Teddy, who used to be on
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and isn't anymore. And it
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  Speaker 1: was so poorly acted. It's a good thing that Teddy
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  Speaker 1: didn't pursue acting. But she– clearly they know they're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this thing. And Tamara says, so– I
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  Speaker 1: had my first therapy appointment. And then Teddy goes, you did? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I found out some things about myself that are pretty,
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  Speaker 1: pretty incredible. What, Tam? What did you find out? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear I'm on the autism spectrum. Something to
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  Speaker 1: that effect. And then Teddy goes, Tam. She goes, don't
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  Speaker 1: make me cry. Okay. So people that watch the show
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  Speaker 1: are like, okay, enough. But the people that really got
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  Speaker 1: upset were the ones who have a loved one in
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  Speaker 1: their life, either their own child or someone close to
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  Speaker 1: them that does in fact have autism. And one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that really came clear is you don't know
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  Speaker 1: that you are on the spectrum at all Unless you
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  Speaker 1: do many evaluations, it can take up to a year
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  Speaker 1: of really figuring it out. And what she said is, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's based on my past trauma. It's also not
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  Speaker 1: based on past trauma. So, hey, maybe she, just like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these housewives, go to a doctor and
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  Speaker 1: they get free Botox. Maybe she went to a therapist
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  Speaker 1: that in exchange for this diagnosis that could be true,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe she gets that for free, too. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It was a big mistake. The Bravo fandom
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  Speaker 1: did not like this. They called BS. I called for
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  Speaker 1: prayers for Tamara and for Teddy's bad acting. I felt
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  Speaker 1: they both needed our prayers because this was just so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, the audience knows the pattern of what she
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  Speaker 1: and other women sometimes in her position have to do
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  Speaker 1: to create a storyline. And so I thought, my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: if this if she continues with this story that she,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, is now realizing at 58 years old or
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  Speaker 1: whatever she is, that she has this, which doesn't go
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  Speaker 1: along with, you know, being able to be on a
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  Speaker 1: reality show, have bright lights on you. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people brought that that up that like, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: this isn't really the traits of it, whatever. The point
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  Speaker 1: is it no one no one. believed it. No one
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  Speaker 1: accepted it. No one really felt sorry for her. No
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  Speaker 1: one was praying for her like I asked them to. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she came forward and was like, I shouldn't have spoken
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  Speaker 1: so soon. I'll take it privately now. But I still
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  Speaker 1: believe there might, she might have thought this was going
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  Speaker 1: to take me to the next season. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: have a journey. I'm going to do some charity stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to make some sack lunches. I'm going to whatever.
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  Speaker 1: it didn't pan out the way she thought. So there
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  Speaker 1: you go. But it was a lot of chatter about
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  Speaker 1: that yesterday. And I thought it was pretty interesting. So
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  Speaker 1: I did, you know, I did a tweet and I
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  Speaker 1: did a little video. Okay. Also, Vicky brought up, Vicky,
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  Speaker 1: her co-star said, this is disgusting and shame on her.
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  Speaker 1: She's looking for attention and sympathy. It's no different than Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the famous storylines of Vicki had
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend named Brooks who lied about having cancer. To
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  Speaker 1: this day, she says, I didn't know I was tricked too,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't know. But all she wanted was for
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  Speaker 1: people to feel sorry for she and Brooks and bring
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  Speaker 1: her a casserole. That was Vicki. Well, now Vicki doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like Tamara anymore. So she's writing this. It's no different
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  Speaker 1: than Brooks saying he had cancer for sympathy and lying
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  Speaker 1: to me. She needs psychological help and needs to stop
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  Speaker 1: making a mockery of being on the spectrum or having autism.
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  Speaker 1: So Um, Gretchen, a former, uh, a former castmate has spoken.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone spoke. Like I said, she made a, she made
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  Speaker 1: a statement. She'll probably be quiet. There'll be a new
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  Speaker 1: story next week, but here's the thing that, you know, I,
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  Speaker 1: I think there might be a place where it's unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: that I think, okay, here, hear me out. All For
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  Speaker 1: the sake of everyone's mental health and life of being
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  Speaker 1: a real housewife, if we're going to go forward with
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  Speaker 1: these women, I think there should be like a maximum
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  Speaker 1: amount of years like they do. Like you can only
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  Speaker 1: be two terms as a president. I think there should
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  Speaker 1: be a maximum amount for a housewife. Then they know
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  Speaker 1: I'm in year six. I only have two years left
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  Speaker 1: no matter what. I need to get my things in line.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm going to get divorced, I want to do
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  Speaker 1: it around year four or five. So I can find
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  Speaker 1: somebody else, end on a second wedding. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Plan it out knowing that there's an end to it.
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  Speaker 1: The audience knows there's an end to it. They say goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: They have like a little farewell party. And we know
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  Speaker 1: no matter how juicy your life is, it's got to
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  Speaker 1: end on year eight. And then they can go with
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  Speaker 1: their other business, make up with their children who hated
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  Speaker 1: them because they were doing embarrassing things on camera. And
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  Speaker 1: there's time to save their situation for the future. But
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  Speaker 1: they get addicted to the fame and they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to leave. And because there isn't like this set thing
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  Speaker 1: in the constitution of Bravo, it can go on forever.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have desperate people saying that they have
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  Speaker 1: a diagnosis that puts them on the spectrum of being,
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  Speaker 1: you know, It's just not true. The only spectrum she's
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  Speaker 1: on is the asshole spectrum, which can be a serious thing.
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  Speaker 1: So like I said. pray for her. Okay. This about
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  Speaker 1: the RFK Jr. situation with the cheating. I thought this
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  Speaker 1: was so interesting. So I had mentioned before that I
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  Speaker 1: was pretty confident that it was the journalist's ex-fiancee who
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  Speaker 1: blew the whistle. That appears to be true. There's these
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  Speaker 1: court papers that New York Post and other people are reporting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the court papers are. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who this guy is suing. That was confusing. But
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  Speaker 1: what was interesting is her ex-fiance is 51. She's only 31,
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  Speaker 1: kind of a big age gap. Then Keith Oberman- said
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  Speaker 1: he dated her when he was 51 and she was 21.
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  Speaker 1: And it was pretty serious. And they even had got
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  Speaker 1: a dog together. I'm like, what is with this chick
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  Speaker 1: and older guys? Because then she goes from like dating
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's 30 years older. Then she gets engaged
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  Speaker 1: to a guy who's 20 years older than her. Then
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  Speaker 1: she starts this sexting thing with 70-year-old Robert F. Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: when she's 31 and he's whatever, 70. But according to
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  Speaker 1: her ex-fiance, who's pissed, he said she begged for him
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  Speaker 1: to take her back. And she said he's the one
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  Speaker 1: that like found out because he went through my stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying, no, I didn't find out about the affair
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  Speaker 1: by going through your stuff. She told me because I
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  Speaker 1: broke up with her and then she begged for me
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  Speaker 1: to take her back. And she said she was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so distraught by this weird sexting relationship with him because
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  Speaker 1: he said that he wanted to impregnate her and wanted
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  Speaker 1: to possess her and all this stuff. And so she
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  Speaker 1: was begging for him to come back. It all got
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  Speaker 1: revealed to the paper that she worked for. Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: And so Keith Oberman from MSNBC said, oh, Ben there
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  Speaker 1: done that, like answered to a tweet. And then they realized, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he dated her too. Very interesting. So I wonder where
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  Speaker 1: this girl is going to land. Is she going to
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  Speaker 1: land like on Dancing with the Stars or the villain
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  Speaker 1: or what? Or is she going to, you know, get
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  Speaker 1: her own podcast? I'm sure that'll happen. Who knows? But
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't really seem to matter. He's, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: not really hearing about him right now. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: he may still stay married to his wife. Some people
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  Speaker 1: feel differently about sexting, cheating, and it's just embarrassing all around. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: some awful updates on Diddy, and I'm sorry. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm covering it, so I've got to cover the updates.
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  Speaker 1: Bow Wow did an interview, and he made the unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: mistake of saying, um, You know, there's been no good
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  Speaker 1: parties since Diddy's arrest. Like nobody's going out, no one's partying.
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  Speaker 1: But the way it sounded, TMZ, of course, caught it
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  Speaker 1: and was like, come on. But he was saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we used to go to all these, like no one
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  Speaker 1: wants to have fun anymore. Now there's all these new
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  Speaker 1: lawsuits and six of them are from men. And the
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  Speaker 1: stories are just crazy. The stories behind the lawsuits that
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  Speaker 1: are being represented by lawyers. And I'm assuming they have
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  Speaker 1: some serious evidence in order to, you know, take on
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  Speaker 1: these cases. But the more you read about these lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: and these allegations, it is like he really was this, like,
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  Speaker 1: sexual assaulting mafioso who ordered people around him to participate.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just awful. So this one... This person, this
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  Speaker 1: guy said he was working at a Macy's in the
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  Speaker 1: Echo clothing department. And P. Diddy was so angry that
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  Speaker 1: Echo clothing was near the Sean John display at Macy's
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  Speaker 1: that he took this guy into the stockroom and sexually
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  Speaker 1: assaulted him and, like, threatened his life, and then went
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  Speaker 1: out to the rest of the Macy's and was like
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  Speaker 1: to the people, oh, let me give you some free
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  Speaker 1: Sean John clothes after assaulting him. And then when that
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  Speaker 1: worker tried to tell Macy's whatever, they had just closed
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  Speaker 1: a big deal with Sean John allegedly and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fired him. He had an apartment that he was living
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  Speaker 1: in that Macy's was paying for, which sounds kind of weird,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know how high up he was in
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  Speaker 1: the company. He had to leave that place. And like
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  Speaker 1: many of the people, was just too frightened and felt
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  Speaker 1: like no one was hearing him when this happened and
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  Speaker 1: therefore has waited till now to speak. So that is
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  Speaker 1: very bizarre. The other case is so awful. This girl,
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the whole complaint read on a different
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  Speaker 1: news source. But I don't really want to get into it.
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  Speaker 1: But this girl... met this friend of Diddy's. They FaceTimed Diddy's.
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  Speaker 1: And she said, like, I think you had something to
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  Speaker 1: do with Tupac's murder. He said, you're going to pay
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  Speaker 1: for that. Well, a month later, that same guy that
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  Speaker 1: she met, who I guess maybe she was interested in
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  Speaker 1: or thought he was a friend, he's like, hey, come
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  Speaker 1: to my house. Let's watch a movie. She comes over there.
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  Speaker 1: And as they're about to watch a movie, Diddy shows
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  Speaker 1: up with like three other people and One of them,
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  Speaker 1: I think, being a woman that's named in some of
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  Speaker 1: these cases. And they assault her. They assault her with
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  Speaker 1: the baby oil, which obviously had something that made her
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  Speaker 1: body lifeless, where she couldn't control herself. Assaulted her every
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  Speaker 1: which way and with objects. Numerous people. It's absolutely horrible,
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  Speaker 1: her account. And she says, I'm going to call the police.
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  Speaker 1: He says to her, don't call the police. I'll just
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  Speaker 1: pay you. First of all, just say you're a sex
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  Speaker 1: worker and I'll pay you. Just let me pay you.
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  Speaker 1: According to this, he even called his mother and gave
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  Speaker 1: the phone to her. And the mother was like, you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to ruin my son's life. Why don't you
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  Speaker 1: just take the money? She did tell the police. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't do anything. The case is insane. Anyway, it's just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely incredible the amount of lawsuits that are coming forward
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  Speaker 1: every day. There's something new. So just get ready. Everyone's like,
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  Speaker 1: we want to know who the other A-listers are. We
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  Speaker 1: still don't know. Even in these lawsuits, no other A-listers
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  Speaker 1: or anybody of a recognizable name is being named. So
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. Will we ever know? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you guys. Now for my interview.
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  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm very excited to
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  Speaker 1: talk to, first time meeting you, guest, actress, star, most,
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  Speaker 1: for me, you're best known, this is Drea Mateo, but
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  Speaker 1: she's to me best known for The Sopranos, the character
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  Speaker 1: of Adriana, but also you were in Sons of Anarchy,
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  Speaker 1: you've been in tons of other shows, Joey. Oh God. Joey,
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  Speaker 1: so many different things. And welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to get your juicy life story.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me. The
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  Speaker 3: Pinskys wanted me to meet you really bad.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so... Well, yeah, Dr. Drew Pinsky and Susan,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I love them.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And okay, because I didn't know how this came about.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I just didn't know if like you were just... No,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: they were trying to get me.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: To go on a boat with you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, they invited you on the boat that we just
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: went to recently.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We went on the boat with them recently. Yes.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: They're like, you're going to love Heather. I want you
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: to meet her. I want you to come and hang
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: out with us. I was like, but I have to
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: go on a boat again this week somewhere else. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: don't like going on boats.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Was it fun? It was really fun. And you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: my husband became a captain over COVID and we like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: had a boat for like a year where we're kind
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of like running it. We always were like, oh, we
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: had like, it was like a lease for a year.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So we'd have these days. And then we invited people. And, like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: soon I realized, okay, out of my group of, like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: there's just these few people that are always down. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: then there's other people that I realized I shouldn't be offended.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Some people just don't want to be on a boat.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: They don't want to be trapped.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: They don't care how nice it is. It's just not
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: their vibe. And then other people like me, I will
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: always say yes. So it's just like kind of an
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: interesting thing. Are you a boat person or not?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a puker.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You're what? I'm a puker.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I'll puke.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'll puke on the boat. I don't want to.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And then I feel like I'm ruining everybody's good time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I love it, though. I love being in the water.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be in a kayak all day.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Or a rowboat. Then I have to work.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. So I wanted to get a little bit about
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: your background because I know from doing a little research
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on you, you are in the process of writing like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a memoir about your life. And your background is very interesting.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Like your grandma– was it your grandmother? And you do
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: have a Mafia background?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Mafia?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that much about it while I was
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: doing The Sopranos, but– But yeah, see that, how my
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: voice just starts to crack. The gods are saying, shut up,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: don't talk about it. But yes, I always knew about
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: my grandfather, Joe Babes.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And what's his story?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought his name was because he was a womanizer.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: But if you Google it, it says he shot a
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: baby by accident. I'm like, what the?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Because he was in the mob and he had to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: do that hit?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I guess he was doing a hit. I mean, maybe
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: he wasn't a good shot. I don't know if– I
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So what year was this that your grandfather was actively
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: doing mob work? In the 50s.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And so was he with your grandmother at the time?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And this is on your mom's side or your dad's side?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: On my mom's side. My dad's dad was also.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: A maid guy.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And this is all happening in New York?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Yep. Bronx and Harlem.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And– You're like– Yeah. Because, you know– I really didn't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: know much about the mafia or what.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Me neither.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Until like The Sopranos. And I just was fascinated. I remember, oh,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: here's a juicy story that happened to my mother. She
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was a realtor and she, her client, I guess I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: could say this now because she's dead. But it was– oh,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: my God. My dad and her did real estate together.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: My dad was so mad at her. But she was
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: selling the house to this guy who was dating Victoria Gotti.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And my mom was like, this is so juicy. That's juicy.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Because the Gotti. And I guess she like just said
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it at an open house or something like to one
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of her real estate friends. Like, oh, you know who
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: he's seeing is Victoria Gotti. And the guy called and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he's like– he got back to him. And he's like,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that you would say that. And they
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: lost the listing. And I just remember being like, oh,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: my God. Now, here I am. This is my career
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: just gossiping, doing juicy scoop. But yeah. So I was like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: what does that even mean? I'm like, I don't I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: remember I was like, what is the mafia? Like, I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: did not get what it was. And so it's like, OK,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: so you when did you find that out?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, I knew about my I knew about my
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: my grandfather's.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I did. I didn't know about.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Some of my dad's, the rest of my dad's family.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And I knew that my mom's family was very connected
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: in Queens when we were growing up. But we had
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: car service. Not car services. Jesus. Am I allowed to curse? Yes.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Thank God. I can relax now. Okay. I'm trying to
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: be all proper. We always had Cadillacs parked in the driveway.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Tons of them. My dad, he had no money. Even
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: though my dad's father was in the mafia, he was
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: not a big money-making guy. He was more like a consigliere.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: People would come to him for advice. He had a
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: pizza parlor. But they were poor. They were really, really poor.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: So when my dad started making money, he just kept
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: buying Cadillacs for everybody. Poor dad. Yeah. So he had
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a fleet of Cadillacs.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. So wait.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So your mom, whose dad was in the mafia.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: She then finds... her husband, who's your dad.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And was he already in the mafia?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: His father was like this. They called him the Dunny.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So were they part of the same mafia family?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: No, my dad's from the Bronx.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So was that a problem that she came from this
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: mafia family and married into a different mafia deal?
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: No, but I think they thought my dad would become
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: a maid guy because he was– and I didn't know
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: this when my dad was alive.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: What does a maid guy mean?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: A maid guy is– you get your button. It means
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: you're part of one of the five families.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. All of the— And why are there only five?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Was a sixth family ever trying to break in? I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: feel like this is like frats.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I can only compare it to fraternity life.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not an expert.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Different fraternities and like they don't—and do the families ever
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: get along?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: No, they're at war with each other.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: They're always at war, all five of them.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: They all offered my dad a button except the Gambinos
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: because they said my dad was too wild. whatever the
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: fuck that means. Because I didn't know this while he
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: was alive. I only found this out years after he
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: was dead.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: And like, what is it really? Like, I know they
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: dress up and they go to church and they have
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: baptisms and they can be charming and they go to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: funerals and they can be charming. But if you're going
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to join, you know that A, you might be murdered
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: or you might be asked to murder someone. Is that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: everybody in it? Or can you be like, I just
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: want to be the paperwork person or I just want
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to be the person that like, you know, sets up
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the dinner reservations at the Italian place and maybe finds
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a couple new people to shake down. But I don't
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: want to be the killer. You have to agree that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you'll do whatever.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, the blood oath. They take a blood oath.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: The omerta means you're never going to speak. Again, I'm
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: not an expert.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you kind of are. I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I played one on TV. I mean, you played one
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and you came from one. I think you're pretty out there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about it when I was in
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: my family.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So when you're growing up at like eight, what did
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you think your family did for a living?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Well, no, my dad was a furniture manufacturer and my
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: mom was a playwright. And that's the truth.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So your dad had another income and another job.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: My dad was not in the mafia.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, your dad wasn't?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: They offered him to be in the mafia.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, they offered and he said no.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: My mother said, you do this and I'm fucking out
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: of here. I already grew up with a father like this.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I will not marry. Because her dad was a cheater.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: He was a wife beater. He was all of these things.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: So she was like, I'm not, she wouldn't even be
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a mom, my mother. And when we were born, she
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: was like, I am going to be a playwright and
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I am doing, I'm going to school and I am
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: not cooking and I am not cleaning and I'm not
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: raising my children. I'm going to hire somebody when there's
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: enough money. And that's how that went down. So what do.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You mean she's not going to raise her children?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: She just couldn't deal with being my, my, my grandmother.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: She didn't want to be my grandmother because my grandmother
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: was so– I mean, the story is long and involved,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Why we're writing the book. Yeah, you definitely should. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: it's– It could be like a movie too.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: And it's great. It's a great story. And it's all
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: about all these really strong women that made mistakes. My
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: mom made mistakes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: She was great.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But she definitely made mistakes. I was raised by my nanny.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: She made mistakes too. We all made mistakes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And so your mom's mom, is that the one that–
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Is it your mom's mom, your grandmother, that also was
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: part of the helping girls get abortions?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: No, that was my great-grandmother.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Your great-grandmother. 1950s Harlem.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Well, when she was young, when she was about 15,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: she cut her hair into a flapper's hairdo, and her
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: parents were like, you're fucking crazy. You're going to Bellevue.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You need a lobotomy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: You're a whore.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You're a putan.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: You got to go. That's it. Because you weren't supposed
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Cut your hair short.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Like that was so rebellious.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like the times we're living in now. Oh my God.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: But they said either you go to Bellevue and get
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: mental help or you get married. And they married her
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: off at 15 years old. She had my grandmother by
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the time she was 16 or she was 15, I think, actually,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: when she had my grandmother. And She was at the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: museum one day. She comes home from being out all
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: day with my grandmother, baby grandmother and the baby. She's
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: a mother and she's a baby with my baby grandmother.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And the husband like punches her out or slaps her
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: for being out and not having her dinner ready. This
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: other 15 year old husband, you know what I mean?
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And she stabs him. And she's like, I mean, she didn't,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: she didn't kill him. She stabbed him. And, um, She said,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: you will give me a divorce. Otherwise, I'll go outside
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and tell everybody in this neighborhood, all the Italian men,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: that your wife stabbed you. So everyone's going to know
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you're a pussy. So he divorced her and then she
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: took her baby and she went to her mother's house
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: and her mother was fucking the neighbor. And she was like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So she just starts blackmailing everyone.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And the mother was still married to her dad. Yes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: She's fucking the neighbor.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: She goes, okay, you are going to watch this child
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that you guys made me have. And I am going
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to Bellevue, but I'm not going to get a lobotomy.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to become a midwife. And that was that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: So my grandmother was raised by her mother. My great-grandmother
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: went off and became a midwife. And then she came
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: back and started delivering babies. And that was her life.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And then eventually she started giving abortions because there were
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of young girls that were taking care of
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: it themselves. They didn't know. Nobody really knew what... So
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, that's how that started. And then
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: my grandfather... the mafia guy, he was coming up and
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: they brought heroin here to America.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: From where? Where did heroin come from originally?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I guess he was back in those days. It must
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: have been, was it Escobar or who were the big dealers?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I can't remember. I'm probably going to get this wrong.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: So I'll just stop on that. But he started supplying
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the morphine for my grandmother's abortions. for the clinic in
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: our brownstone on Pleasant Avenue in New York City. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that's how he met my grandmother. The whole story is crazy.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So then my grandmother has my mother. And so my
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: grandmother's name is here. My nanny's name is here. I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: was raised by my grandmother, my nanny, and my mother.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: And I would always say to my mom, I never
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: understood why my mom was so distant doing her own thing.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: But once I started to understand who all these people
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: were in my house, I was like, wow, this is
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: a really dynamic situation. Like everybody's fucked up.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Do you have any siblings?
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I have two older brothers.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Are you guys close? And they're a lot older. We were.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: We are not now. Now that everyone's gone. My mom
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: just passed this summer and my dad passed like 13
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: years ago. Yeah. I'm an orphan now. I'm an orphan.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: And I have no family except for my children. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: love my children.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I can kind of relate to some of that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for sure. Okay. So then when did you realize like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a performer, I want to act and what was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: your path?
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, both of my parents wanted to act and
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: My dad's family said, you're too ugly to act. He
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: was gorgeous. I don't know why they said that. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: then my mom, they said, only putanas act. Only the
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: whores act. So again with the whores. And now look
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: who the whore is right here.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I'm the fucking.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Whore all around.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: That's really interesting, too, because this is probably why Dr.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Drew was like, we should meet. There are a lot
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of similarities. Oh, yeah?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Definitely not.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: We should hold hands.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, definitely not. I did a whole thing about, you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: being being estranged from adult siblings, like as and how
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: people give that a lot of pressure. Oh, but this
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: is your sibling and you should be. Yeah. And I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: kind of did this thing of like giving people permission.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You don't have to, you know, do what's right for
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you and break the cycle. So like I understand that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: even though people are like blood is thicker than water.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: It's like I love them.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I do. It just doesn't work.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it just doesn't work. But I also feel like
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: they don't have a real interest either.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I do have interest in being.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Close to everybody. But I feel like they really don't.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to work hard for something. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: they've also just been sort of.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah. And then the fact that both of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: your parents kind of wanted to be performers too. Like
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: my dad, when he said when he was coming, he
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was in World War II, but he was coming back
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on the boat from Japan to San Diego. He said
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: they only had like one movie that they kept playing
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: over and over on the boat to get back. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: so he'd memorized all the lines and they would just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: act it out. But then, you know, went and got–
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: used the GI Bill, got into football, became a businessman
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: after– you know, played football in college, got a business there, whatever.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But always had like a really great– could do impressions
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and be funny. And then my mom got a scholarship
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to Catholic University to act. And her dad was like,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be an actress if you're going
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to go to college, do journalism because you can write too.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And it's just kind of funny when– sometimes when people
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, I'm living the life that maybe my–
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: my mom or dad would have wanted. I think there's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of us out there that kind of like
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: that when you look back at it, you know, because obviously,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you know, there's nepo babies, but then there's people that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: just like if someone, you know, has an engineering brain,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: their kid might have an engineering brain. If your parents
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: were creative and storytellers and actors, even if they didn't
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: pursue it, Sometimes, you know, then you come out that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: way too, you know?
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I think my parents were, forget about even the fact
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: that I became an actor. I don't think my dad
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: wanted me to act because he thought it was too heartbreaking.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And he would say to me every day, please, baby,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: pick something else that you can do. Like this should
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: only be, this should be the last resort of if
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: you can't do anything else, then this can be the
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: thing that you do. Try to do something else. Because
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: he saw my mom being in the industry for years,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: just being a playwright. But my mom never really pursued
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: it in the way that she should have. I mean,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: she was with William Morris for years, but she never
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: even published a play, which I thought was weird because
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: her plays were– she was kind of a big deal
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: underground in the theater world. But she never really took
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: it all the way. So now I'm going to publish
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: all of her plays for her and tell her story
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: with this book. Absolutely. Because it's her story. It's more
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: her story. I mean, it's my story, but it's her–
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: she starts it off with that– crazy before, but I
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: think what they were more obsessed with was the Sopranos.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I think they couldn't believe that I would, I never
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: really pursued acting by the way. I was in film school.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted to, I was the anti-theater. I hated growing
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: up in the theater because of my mom. I hated
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: watching people play house. I was like, motherfuckers, I'm supposed
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: to play house. I am the little kid. Why are
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you people acting like I am the mom and I
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: am the dad? And I wanted to play house. So
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I hated sitting there watching these adults rehearse all day,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: even though it was Uta Hagen and Herbert Berghoff and
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: all these people. I was like, I don't care who
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: they are. I'm a baby. Um, so I went to
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: film school. I went to NYU film school to get
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: away from the whole theater thing. And it was like the,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the fuck you go right out of high school there.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I went straight into NYU and, um, and I fucked
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: up cause I was a fuck up and.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I, how'd you fuck up?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I, I worked through school, which
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't have done because I didn't need to.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: We had money and my parents were taking care of me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But I just, I think, loved the life of bartending
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: until 5 o'clock in the morning and coming home with $ 2, 000
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: in cash, you know, and like half-baked. And it just
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: was– that was my dorm room experience. It wasn't like
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: other kids. I was a working– I felt like a
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: working man.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You know? Yeah. And I fucked up. I just took
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: that more seriously than my actual education. And I wasn't
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: making my movies on time. And then I fell into
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the wrong stuff, being in the clubs every night.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So you didn't finish?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I got kicked out.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I got let go of the school. Then I came
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and I begged back in. And they let me stay
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in as long as I kept a 4.0. Uh-huh. So
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I managed to do that for a minute. Really?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: For a minute. Wow. And that's when I started taking
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the acting classes. I was like, how am I going
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to maintain this form? Oh, I'm going to do something
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: really fucking easy. And I started taking acting for directors.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: And I secretly was like, I think I might want
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: to do this. And all my friends are like, why
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: are you in the film department? You should just be acting.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: And I was like, no, because I felt like it
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: was so indulgent to act and even to say I
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: want to act. People would ask me even what I
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: did for a living.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: It's like conceited to say I want to act. Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I was always super shy.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Like I'm only not shy in the last three years
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: of my life.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Cool. I swear to God. I was so crazy shy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I felt very conceited. Like, oh,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: you think you're an actress? No, I'm a bartender. I'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a bartender.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So, okay. So you got through the school by taking
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the acting classes. And then how– did you start booking stuff,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: like real booking stuff and getting money?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I had a friend who's a writer in the business,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and she just introduced me to managers here and there.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: She would always put me in her little films that
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: she'd be making and stuff with her husband. But she
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: introduced me to a manager. The manager had me on
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: for a minute sending me out to things. But I
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: wasn't really an actor, but she was– She told me
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: that I had a terrible voice so that I would
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: never be able to act because my voice was so
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: fucked up. And I'm like, because I used to be
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: a heavy smoker. And she asked me to go take
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: voice classes. So I said, okay, that's normal because people
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: take voice classes in acting. It's like a normal thing
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: to do. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Not voice, Dre. Like opera classes, like singing. I said,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: opera classes? You got to be fucking kidding me. She goes, yes,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I think that you should. take opera singing classes so
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: that you can really break through your voice and all
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: of this raspiness. And I thought, you're fucking crazy. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: was like, so if I don't do this, are we
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: still good? And she was like, no, we're not. So
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: she let me go. And then, and it's so fucking crazy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: But then like two weeks later, I booked The Sopranos.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So how did you get the audition for The Sopranos?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Your manager just put you up for the role? No,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: an agent.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I had like a small agent. Actually, it's the same
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: agency I ended up going back to now, even though
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not acting anymore. But I was like, fine, you
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: guys want to represent me? Take it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Take it. Take all this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: All.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: This nothing of acting that I, all of this, all
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: of the me saying, absolutely not. Um, but yeah, they
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: got me some small audition for one line. In a
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: TV show, had I been auditioning for that show as
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: a series regular, I never would have gotten it. It
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: would have gone to someone of the moment.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Was it already out? Because I can't remember. When did
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you come on? Were you in the first season? Oh,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: so it was not even out yet. So you had
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: no idea of what this would become.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: No, but I will say this. The minute I got
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: my hands on that script and I read it, I
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: called my mother immediately and I go, holy shit. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: know that I have no interest in television shows, but
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: you have to read this, mom. It is the most
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: beautifully written show I've ever seen in my life. And
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: she read it and she was like, yeah, wow, this
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: is beyond. I was like, it's so great. It'll never
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: get made. And I had one line. It was the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: hostess in the restaurant. And then they ended up making
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Adriana a hostess when they brought me in for the series.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: But that part would have gone to like Marissa Tomei
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: or Mira Sorvino, all the girls that were used to
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: playing that type of role.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: If they knew that it was a series regular. Someone
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: at that level wouldn't have done the one line hostess.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't have done a TV show.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: That's where the line comes. There are no small parts,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: only small actors. Yes, it's true.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: But I loved it so much. So when they called
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: and they said, look, David thinks that you're not really Italian-like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: but you are Italian. So he likes you. would you
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: be willing to just play the snobby hostess at the kinetic,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: like a Connecticut vibe, the restaurant kind of thing. And
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'll do anything just to be a
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: part of that script. I loved it. And I did it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't even get my line out because I
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: was with, I was with Lorraine Rocco. No one knew
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: who Jim was yet. I was with Lorraine and she's Cameron.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm good fellas. Carol.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I could think about when I saw her face was
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: her putting the gun in her panties. I was like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. All I see is gun in your
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: panties right now. You're so sexy. Um, so yeah, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: couldn't say my line. I was like, I can't believe
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: they'll even audition me later for another role.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Because you felt like you fucked up that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think they remembered that I was the same person.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. So you come back and, and do you realize
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: then the arc of your, your part yet? Or you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: don't know where this is going?
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Still a day player. So they call me back to
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: be in, to audition for the series. I was in
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Queens at my grandmother's house and she's cooking us chicken,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: chicken parmesan. And I remember getting the phone call that
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: they wanted me to come in. And I was like, yeah, no,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: this is too last minute. I can't come in right now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Are you people crazy? I was like, and aside from
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: which I'm in Queens. And they were like, well, that's funny.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: So are we.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And I was like, fuck. My mother looks at me.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: She goes, what's it for? And I go, it's that
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: show that I did the pilot for the Sopranos. She goes,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: we're going. She goes, ma. Make her a chicken cutlet
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: parmesan hero. Wrap it up. Make one for Al. She
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: goes in the safe. She gets my nameplate and diamonds
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: from my confirmation, which is Andrea. So Adriana. And I
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: put it on and she goes, what are your lines?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And I said, it's just Al. She goes, you are
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: going to say Al in like 15 syllables, just like Silvana,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the neighbor, my best friend next door. And that was it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I said, ow.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: What were you saying, ow, too?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I don't even fucking know. Maybe Christopher was grabbing my arm.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ow, or some shit.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so then you become his girlfriend, Christopher's girlfriend.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Just a day player. Oh, still a day player. $ 500 checks,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: sitting on a toilet in the honey wagon on set.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: The honey wagon is all bathrooms. It's like 15 bathrooms
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: in a row, and every toilet has a cushion on
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: it so you have somewhere to sit.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: That's a dressing room.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, got it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Before they give you like a double banger or a
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: star trailer.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Double banger.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And okay. So then when you then realize, okay, now,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: because how many seasons were you the girlfriend where we
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: knew you to be his girlfriend?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: The whole time. The whole show.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So you, because we're sorry for those of you that
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: haven't watched it, cover your ears.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: So many new fans, by the way.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: The character, spoiler, so your character does die. And I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: said spoiler.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: But your character dies and gets killed. And I just
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: remember that scene. And I loved Sunday nights, HBO Sunday nights,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and watching it. Me too. It was so good. So
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: it went on for seven seasons, right? I think it did.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: It was, yeah, it was like the fake seven because
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: they didn't want to pay a full seven. So they
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: said six and a half.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a weird thing back then where like
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: deals were made with cable where it was seven seasons guarantee.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And if you're going to go past that, they make
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it whatever. It was a big thing. But so just
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about this for a minute. As
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: an actress, I want to ask you this. So- When
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: did you find out that this was your character's fate?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: How do you find out? Did they sit you down
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: or they just gave you the script and you read
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it like everybody else?
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: They actually, for all the men on the show, because
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: it's only been men that have had those big moments.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: They bring him into David Chase's office and he tells
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: them and then they all go out for a big dinner.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Before their character gets knocked off. Yeah. Oh, my God.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That's so funny.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It was different.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: How did they do it?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I approached him episode five. I think it was episode five.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I have the neck brace in that scene after the accident.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Maybe we were faking a hospital in a house somewhere
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: for a set. I can't quite remember. But anyhow, David
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: was on set. And I thought, oh, he's here. Let
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: me just ask him. I said, things don't seem so
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: great for my character right now. Like all I'm doing
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: is talking to the FBI. I'm shitting my pants nonstop
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: because I have IBS. I was like, and I want
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: to direct this film in the hiatus because I wanted
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: to get back directing. It was one of my mother's
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: students' movies that she wrote. And I could tell he
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: didn't like that. I Everyone always said, don't ever ask
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: David for, don't ever mention that you want to do
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: anything else.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I can see that. Aside from what we're doing.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, but it's not acting. I
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: don't want to act. I want to go direct and
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: do what he does. And it's just a short time.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't like that either, though.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: You know, I found out, but I think that he
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: had plans anyway. So he sat me down and on
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: a curb, we sat on the street on a curb
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: and I had my neck brace on and I know
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: that the scene I had to do.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: So your neck brace was for the character.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Cause I had just been in the accident with Jim,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: with Tony Soprano. And, um, I don't really remember a
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: lot of scenes, but, but he sat me down and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: he said, so we're going to do it like this.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: We're shooting it two ways. You're going to die and
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you're going to live. And no one's going to know
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: what happens until it airs because of the confidentiality breach
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: on set and because of all the gossip and because
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: of how, I mean, it was the first show where
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: if something got leaked, it was monumental. Yes. It was
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a really big deal. And the audience didn't want the leaks,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: even though some people were like, I want to know
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen. People really didn't want to know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: especially that, you know, because People loved her so much
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: and she was innocent. So it was even more, it
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: was worse because she was innocent. It wasn't just like
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: one of these guys that you know murdered so many people,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: you know. So that was all I knew. And then
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I started getting offers to do other shows and lots of,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: and a lot of things. And I'm like, how does
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: anyone know? Like no one is supposed to know anything here.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: And I took a job once I knew. And then
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: that got out into the world. And then I had
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to go to damage control because he was furious with me.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Because he thought by you taking a job got people talking, oh,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: she must be dying soon because she's talking to the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: feds on the show.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: It didn't. I wish I could find– I had to
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: go on a talk show to mitigate it. And I
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: don't know whose show I picked to do to just say, no,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not dying on this show. Uh-huh. Um, but that,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: that happened, but that's how I found out. So I
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: never had a dinner, but that would have been awkward
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: because I'm not one of the guys on the show.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I was a young girl, so I never
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: had the dinner. But, um, the last, I remember they
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: brought balloons and champagne and it felt like every day
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: was my last day though, because every time, because then
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: they were reshoots. So there was like, they were having
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: a goodbye this day and then a goodbye the next day.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm fucking out of here already, guys.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: People always ask me about the death scene. And I'm like,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I was already gone by then in my head. You know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I think I think what's so compelling when you watch it,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: like I can see it in my head. And what
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I thought about was so again, spoiler. OK, so you
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: were with the one of the other guys. He says
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: he's taking you to. the hospital or something to see somebody?
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Christopher. He's saying that Christopher tried to commit suicide.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: But this is a little piece of trivia for people
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: that are diehard Soprano fans. There was a scene written.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: in the episode where Tony, where Christopher goes to Tony
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Soprano and tells him that I was a rat. They
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: go in the basement of, of Tony Soprano's house in
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: the laundry room where there's no wires or microphones, whatever.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: And he confesses to him. So then Tony Soprano calls
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Adriana and says, yo, He just committed suicide because Tony's like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I'll take care of it. So, you know, you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: when Christopher tells Tony and Tony says, I'll take care
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: of it. And Tony calls Adriana. That means she's dead.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: So the drive to the forest is meaningless at that point.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: But I didn't like that that scene was in there
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: because I thought that it should be a buildup. So
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I begged some of the writers and I think even
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: a few of the actors stood with me on it
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: to have that scene eliminated from the show. And they did.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: They aired it without Christopher confessing.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was like a surprise when you're watching
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it as a viewer because he pulls over and there's
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a moment then when your character like knows. And I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: just think what's crazy about that is I don't think
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: in any movie that I've ever seen where you think
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: what that must be like is the dark For somebody
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that knows whether they've been kidnapped and this is the
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: moment they're going to be killed or, you know, it's
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: somebody they know or they're in the mafia or they're
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it's their husband and they just know like this is
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the moment like this is. Oh, my God.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: This is probably going to happen to me. And so
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: as an actress.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: How do you, do you, did you get to that
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: place or did you almost, I mean, where is it
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that you, or did you not really get to that
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: place or you just did it?
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I was, I have a tendency to take care of
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: everybody all the time, even on set, even if I
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: need focus on myself. Stevie was really upset that he-
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: The person who had to kill you. Yeah, Stevie Van Sant.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: He had to pull me out of the car by
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: my hair, I think, or my jacket. He had called
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: me a cunt. He didn't want to do any of
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: these things. And I'm like, motherfucker, I got a dinner
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: to be at. Like, we got things to do. You're fine.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: You can do it. Have fun with it. Call me
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: a cunt. Pull me out of that fucking car by
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: my hair. Let's do this thing. It was a very
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: quick scene to shoot because they don't show my face.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: That was a request of David's did not want to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: see me get killed. I don't know if he ever
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: people thought it was an intentional cliffhanger. I don't think
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it was. I think he really just didn't want to
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: see her get killed. But that scene for me was not,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that was not the worst. It was hard to sort
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: of calibrate how to show that I am, because I
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: knew that they took, I didn't know that they were
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: taking that scene out. So because I didn't know that
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: scene was coming out, I was already upset in the car.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Had I known that scene wasn't going to be in there,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I might've looked a little less upset in the beginning.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: because I don't know where I'm going. I, it was, yeah,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. I don't know how I
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: prepared for that, but the scene where he chokes me,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: where I confessed to him, that was the scene for me.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: That scene crushed me. Every scene crushed me. That whole
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: fucking season crushed me. Cause at that time.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's when Christopher chokes you, your fiance.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I took it all so like, you know, I was
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: a young actor and it was my first big job.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: So there were no shortcuts for me. Everything had to
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: be real. Like there was no faking of anything happening.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: And then when did you know, like, when was your
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: first like life-changing kind of moment? Like where you're like, oh,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm famous. Like I'm walking and people are like calling
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: out your name and you realize what a big hit
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: The show was big. Yeah. It was big. I remember
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: when we'd go to the airport, they would have to
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: escort us with, um, You know, with the caddies through
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the airport. Because if we were in a group together,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: it was a little too chaotic and crazy. People were like,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: holy shit. It's all of them.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: They're all here.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: But I think for me, the real moment was when
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: my name was in the crossword puzzle. And look, the
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: New York Times crossword puzzle for my parents. Because it
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: was a big deal.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Because I did the puzzle every day.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, they'd be excited and I'd
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: be like, guys, can I tell you something though and
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: just remind you? The reason why I'm in it is
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: because it's not an easy answer. Okay. It's not because,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: oh my God, she's famous. It's because the people might
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: not know who it is.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: So did your parents, did they stay married throughout your life?
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so nice.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were together. They fucking almost killed each other
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: when I was young, but that passed. My dad still
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: thought he was maybe going to be in the mafia
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: when we were young. So he was still acting like
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: one of those guys from time to time. Oh. So
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: she was like, what the fuck? You know. You can't
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: be like my father. And they adored each other. So absolutely.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: And they were the funniest motherfuckers on the planet. So
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: that's why they love The Sopranos, because David Chase's writing
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: is just like my mom's writing. My mom's an incredible writer.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not just saying because she's my mom. Obviously, I
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: know good writing because I knew The Sopranos was was
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: fantastic early on. But she watching her teach writing actually
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: is how I learned how to act. didn't really take
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: any heavy, heavy acting classes. But hearing her break a
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: script down for her students and hearing her talk about
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: how everything has to stay active, how you have to
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: have an objective, like all the way she did that
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: made it very easy to understand how to become an actor.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: And one of the things when I was like researching stuff,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: there was questions, like I was asked one question, then
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: another one came up and it was, did Adriana and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Tony Soprano ever have sex?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, you mean like, did they?
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because they never show it. But there's like, I
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: guess there's elements that kind of made the audience wonder
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: if there was ever a moment.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. I think Adriana, I
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: think everything, she led with her heart. Yeah. Nonstop. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I think that, I mean, she probably maybe could have.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was down. I was down with the
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: whole scenario if that's what Adriana wanted to do. Yeah.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: He was so sexy. Oh, my God. He was so sexy. Oh,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: my God. I remember that other scene where he had–
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: he was having the affair with the girl at the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Mercedes dealership or whatever. And then she, like, called the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: house to tell Carmela.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, Annabella.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's Annabella. And the way– When then he came
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: in there and threw her on the bed and was like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: don't you ever call my fucking wife. I remember where
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I was when I saw that scene. It was just
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: So sexy.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. So you do all that. And then you
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: go on Sons of Anarchy. And now you keep saying,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I'm done with acting. I'm hearing you in these other interviews.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I'm done with acting. And I get why you think
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: it's over for you and you're happy for it to
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: be over. And I kind of think people don't realize
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: when someone does move on from it and do other things,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: they're like, how can that be? Because it seems like
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: everybody that has a desire is like, how could you
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: ever turn down something? So if the right thing came along,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: are you really going to be done, done? Or is
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it just you don't want to be in the trailer?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: You don't want to have to answer to anybody. Why
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: do you say that you think you're really done with acting?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I was done after Sopranos, to
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: be honest with you. I really, I felt like I
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: got there. I did it. I did what resonated for
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: me without even knowing that it did. I thought, if anything,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to play an Italian. I didn't want
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: to be stereotyped. I didn't want to be on television.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be a film star. You know, when
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: you're a kid, if you're going to do this, you
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: want to not be, they wanted to change my name.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: They didn't want me to be Italian. Because I'd be stereotyped.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: It was a whole big thing back in those days.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Look at what happened now in this whole mess of Hollywood.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: But back then, it was a real big thing for Italians.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: And the accent. And that people just assumed you were
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: stupid if you were Italian, kind of, in a way.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Which is so crazy because there's so many Italian actors
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: out there. So I never really felt like it was...
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to do anymore. I wanted to be
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: with my ex at the time. I was happy to
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: just follow him around. I realized I was more like
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Adriana than I knew. I would lead with love all
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: the time and my heart and where my heart wanted
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: to be. And it wasn't in a fucking makeup trailer.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: And yeah, sure. It was great to get a top
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: spot reservation in a restaurant. Like these were cool things
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: that came with the celebrity part of it, but the
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: rest of it, I never really cared about it. And
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: I took care of my nanny for many years, the
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: lady that raised me. And there was just a lot,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: like she would get sick a lot and I couldn't
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: show up to Sundance sometimes, or I couldn't promote a
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: film or I didn't want to go to a festival,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: whatever it was. It was just, people were abhorrent. I
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: didn't like the way people functioned in the industry. and
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: how callous they were and how it just didn't matter.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Like humanity didn't matter even back then. And look at
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: it now. I mean, really look at the way, I mean,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: for me, I had to stop over the mandates. And
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: it wasn't like people say, oh, you were canceled. I'm like, no,
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really canceled. I pulled myself out because I
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: knew I'm a crazy fucking hippie and I just wasn't
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: ready to do anything. And then when they were like,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: you must do this or you'll never work again. And
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, now I really need
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: to understand what all of this means. And once I started, listen,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: they should have just given me a script and said,
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: show up and act instead of giving me this other script,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: which was go research this instead. Because once I started
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: researching what was happening during that time, where I realized, oh, fuck,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I can't go back to this industry right now.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And you didn't think, you know, did anybody say, okay,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: we get your position, get a fake card?
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: They did. And my daughter- I got everybody fake cards
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: and I felt really bad using it. I couldn't, I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: felt bad sitting in a restaurant. I got it to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: take them to see Hamilton when it came to LA.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: And I remember being there in the audience and thinking,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: and I was crying. I actually, I was tearing up.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: This is me, this is Adriana, here I am. I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: haven't changed. I remember feeling like, what if I'm hurting somebody? Like,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: what if, like, what if I don't have the answers
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: and what if I am, I shouldn't be here with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: all of these people. And I thought I was just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: so like consumed with confusion at that time of, um, anyhow,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I was starting to lose money. Like we, I only
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: go job to job. I never was a career actor,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: no interest in it. Like I said, I wanted to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: be with my, my family. Then I became a single mom. So, God,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: try to whip me from my kids.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: And how are you with the father of your kids? Good.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: It took a long time. It took a long time.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: And how old are your kids now?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Lead with your heart. Lead with your heart. Not with
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: this thing, you know. 16 and 13. But my daughter
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: was like, please don't use the card for work. She goes,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: you have a big mouth. you'll end up saying the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: wrong thing. But I, more than anything, you taught us
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: to be a certain way and you taught us, and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: I have no liar tattoos on my body and all
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: kinds of things. So she's like, I don't want you
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: to lie. And I was like, I won't then. And
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: I won't. And I was like, but you might have
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: to come out of school because of the mandates at
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: the schools that was happening at the same time. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: she's like, it's fine. We'll figure it all out. So
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: we were leaving LA. We were moving out of LA
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: over the public schools and and all that stuff with
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: the mandates.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: So that was how that happened.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: But then I got, listen, my house almost went into foreclosure.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: And when I tried to sell it, it flooded. And
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: the old lady was dying. And I'm holding her hand.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: You mean the nanny. The nanny. The nanny that raised you. Yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: I was literally holding her hand here and auditioning for
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: something here. I'm not used to auditioning either. Like, it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: was new for me.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Auditioning on tape?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Auditioning at all.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Like, I just take jobs that, you know, I took
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: the jobs that would pay me to stay in raising
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: my kids for years without having to work in between.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I would run out of money though. I wasn't trying
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: to save money. I was just trying to live, you know?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: But I remember auditioning like this, holding her dying hand
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: and them being like, so do you guys, do you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: have any idea? They wanted me to do the part.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea when she's going to die?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, are you fucking people insane? Because I,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: they needed me to leave and go on set to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: do this, this job. And I was like, okay, I'm done.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: And that was the last job before the vaccine mandates.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: So had I taken that job, I would have been okay.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: But then I would have had to leave her while
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: she was dying, which I wouldn't have done. And so
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I had choices to make and my choices led me
• 1:02:56
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:14
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: And so you had to keep the house.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I kept my house. And now we're going to try
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: to sell it because we want to.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: And now where do you want to go from there?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: So you're still in LA.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: We're still here.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to go back to New York,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: but it's the apocalypse.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: And things are going to get worse right now.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: So it was funny because, you know, you said in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: a show that sometimes your son, is he the 16
• 1:03:58
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:12
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• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not really edited either too much.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
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• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: That's hot.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: That's in New York.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: That's in New York. That's at home. But no, he
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: edited a picture of me where I look like a superhero.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:31
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:51
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my son has said that too. Like, you know,
• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: he goes, mom, will your career ever get to a
• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I go, I don't think so because I have the
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• 1:05:17
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• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: were sexy. And then you do have this fan base.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: that you can, you know, play into the character of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: the mob wife and all that kind of stuff. And
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: those guys will love it and ask you questions. So
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: it's more than just, you know, being sexy. And I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: think it was really smart. I've been saying for years,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Britney Spears doesn't do OnlyFans.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Well, now I wonder why none of them do, because
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: the photos they put on Instagram are so sexy. You
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: won't see pictures like that of me. from before my
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans page. There might be one where I didn't add
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: for period panties, which is hardly sexy. But it's the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: only time you see me in my underwear and maybe
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I put a bikini shot on the 4th of July.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: But other than that, like, I don't know how to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: be this girl who's like taking fucking selfies of myself
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: and like standing in a mirror and like, well, who
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: does that shit? Well, apparently I do it now, but
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: back in the day, I never did it, but I
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: took a shot.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's so funny because my sons helped me
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: with this business too. And I'm like, and, we were
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: doing a show in Vegas and I wanted to show
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a video, like, you know, I stand up a little
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: bit of this, but I do stand up and I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: wanted to, and my son was helping me. He's a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: senior at ASU. And the night before I went with
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: my friends, we went to Thunder Down Under. So of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: course I was pulled up on stage and everything. And
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted to show the video on stage the next day.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: So as I'm like filming, like the theater before we start,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: There's my son and he's like talking to the guy,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: like being like, yeah, this is the video. And I'm like,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: oh my God, I made him edit the video of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: this guy, like shoving my face in his crotch and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: my legs going like this and everything.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: And it was so corny.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Like, even though I didn't know what was happening, obviously
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: this guy is like not getting hard for me. Like,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: who cares? But the fact that I'm like, okay, yeah.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, okay, I think this part's boring.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: But then this part where he spreads your legs, like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: we'll do, we'll, you know, speed it up and everything.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, like. You know, it's whatever your
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: business is, but if they get that it's funny, I'm
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: not having them edit a porno, like, you know, whatever.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was, I totally saw your point
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: in having your kids.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Well, they were saying child protective services after me.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Who was? Some listeners?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: The kids read the comments. I go, guys, you know
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: mommy doesn't read comments on anything ever. Half of my
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: relationships ended because all the men in my life will
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: read comments. I'm like, don't.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Read the fucking comments. Why would it end? Because they
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: didn't like to be mentioned in the comments or they
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: didn't like to be famous?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Just the insults, just continuous fucking negative bullshit that people
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: spew all day. It's like, get out from behind your
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: computer and live a life. Go love somebody or something.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Go love yourself.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the boyfriends, how would it turn
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: them off? That people were saying mean things to you.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I don't see how that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: I think that they might say mean things about them
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: from time to time.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I think it is.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't care about them saying mean shit about me.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: When I talk about real housewives and stuff, I'm like,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the reason so many real housewives end... their marriages end
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: is because they think it's all great. Oh, I think
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: camera should have been following me around my whole life.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: And the husband has a few bucks and his life's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: come real easy to him. And then all of a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: sudden they're on TV. And the next day, the guy's like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I'm famous. And everyone's like, you don't have a chin.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: And they're like, what? I'm worth millions of dollars. And now, oh,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: you're right. I don't have a chin. And then they're like,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you were mean to her when you served her coffee.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And then They start fighting and that's what happens. Maybe
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I should do that. And so on a lower level
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to be on Real Housewives. Yes.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: No, so I can get Robbie in trouble all day,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: my grumpy boyfriend.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: What if someone did ask you to do Real Housewives
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: I think the only way I could do it is
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: if it's like the housewives of Beverly Hills. of like
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: the Hollywood Hills or Laurel Canyon, like the hippie housewives.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: It'd have to be like the fucking filthy hippie housewives.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: No, but what's fun is they like different people. But look,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you, there was a, A crazy
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: story that happened in the Real Housewife world.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Who's that? She's hot.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: That's Dina Manzo. And she was an original Real Housewife
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: of New Jersey.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: She's gorgeous.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: She is gorgeous. Well, let me tell you her story.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Is she a bitch?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: No, she's the nicest. You love her?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: You love her? I love her.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I met her. Spit on the show. Oh, wait.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: So he's going to prison.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: No, this is what happened. So she, okay, this is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: a crazy story. Before they, the cameras came, came. She
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: is one of 10. She also has a sister named
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Caroline Manzo.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: She has 10 sisters that look like that?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: No, there's boys and girls in their family.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: There's 10 of those?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: She's fucking hot.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: She's like, I think one of the younger ones. Her
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: older sister is Caroline. Okay.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Caroline marries this guy named Albie or Albert Manzo. No,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Albert Manzo. Her older sister marries Albert. She gets married
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and gets divorced, has a kid. And then ends up
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: falling in love with his younger brother. So now the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: sisters are both married to Manzos. Okay. And that marriage
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: didn't go well for Dina and the Manzo brother. And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: they end up getting divorced. And she ends up dating
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: somebody else. And then that guy gets attacked in a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: parking lot. Like a crowbar or whatever. Brutally attacked. And
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: then the guy... And then this guy suddenly gets a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: free wedding at the place that the Manzos run. And
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: they found out that the Manzo ex-husband gave somebody in
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: one of those families a free wedding because that guy
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: went and attacked her new man.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: So that was his pay. Yes. He was a contractor.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: And so they were able to prove– that he was
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: the one, even though he didn't do it, that he
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: ordered that attack. And now he got seven years.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Are these guys mafia?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: According to the older sister, Caroline, no. They've just run
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the brownstone in New Jersey for years. However, Caroline also
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: wrote a letter, a character letter for this man.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Who's this one? She's Caroline or Dina?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Dina. So Dina, her older sister, Caroline. wrote a character
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: letter for her, in fact, brother-in-law, but also like it's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: double brother-in-law, right? Because they were both married to the brothers.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: And so that was like, really? For a guy that like,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: you know, attacked my husband? Then there was a whole
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: nother story that happened where they both were attacked by
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: someone in their home. She was attacked too, Dina. But
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: that is not, I don't know if they can't figure
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: out if he was responsible for that. That was a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: whole nother thing. But this one, they were able to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: prove that her Ex-husband Manzo was responsible, and now ex-husband
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Manzo is going to prison for seven years.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: The sister's ex.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: This is her man.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: This is her man that she's smiling with. That guy
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: over there is her ex. That's the brother. The ex
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: ordered the hit or beat up, not murder.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: He's wearing a pinstripe suit.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: That's a mafioso thing? Forget about it. Okay. But the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: thing that made it so juicy was the sister thing.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: And that's why Real Housewives of New Jersey, when it began,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: was such a big deal. And I think it was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: either Sopranos was still on or it was right after
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: the Sopranos.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: And the fact that there was real family involved, sisters
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and then that this really happened. Like, and, yeah,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: and then, yeah, there's the Manzo grandfather, okay, the dad
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: of these two guys. He was found dead. In someone's trunk.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on. These guys are fucking mafia.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. I'm just telling you the story.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Don't come after me, Manzos. Who's the show?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Whose show is it? Who's the guy? Who's the guy
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: who owns all the TV shows?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Murdoch?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: No, the guy who owns the... The freaking– Andy Cohen?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: That guy. He's got to know.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think– I think it's pretty obvious that there's,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: you know, something happening here. But– And then.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like– Just ask the expert.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: But I'm like– but then also why would you– this
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: is what always craves me because there's a lot of
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: criminals on Real Housewives shows. Didn't the other one go?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: The– Gwedeese? Gwedeese?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Teresa Giudice. She did prison for a year.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: How does she pronounce her name?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I say Giudice, but then they say Gudici. There's two
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: ways to say it. We're all fucking this up, left
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: and right. And so, yeah, she did. Guido. Teresa Guido.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Her husband did four years and she went.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: What did he do, that guy?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: No, she did a year, then he did four years.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: I only know who they are because she looks like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: my neighbor.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: He did like mortgage fraud and stuff like that. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: feel like that had they not been on TV.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Like the sanitation department.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: No, it really wasn't that big of a crime. I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: think there was more behind it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: When Italians are involved, it's just a big crime anyways.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so then she was part of it because
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: she signed the thing. So she had to do a year.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Then he did four years. She was in prison for
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: a year? Yeah. Then he got deported.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: She was in jail for a year?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: She had to do jail for one year.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: How did that work out? Did she have a show
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: after that?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: She made all these friends. She did yoga. Really? She
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: wrote a book. And then when she got out, she
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: got married to this other guy. No.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So she actually was in jail for a year.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: They didn't abuse her.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: It's called camp. It is? That's what they would refer
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: When I went away. That's a mafia thing, I guess. Oh.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: When she went away, they don't want to say jail, prison.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: They let her cut her garlic real thin. And then
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: they like say camp. They call it camp.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: She got to cook in her cell and she cut
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: her garlic real thin.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was kind of real, kind of like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: a camp thing. I think they had like the bunk
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: beds and stuff. I don't know. And then she just
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: like worked out and there's a photo of her with
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: all the other girls. They like loved her. Did she
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: have cornrows? Yeah, she let the hair go curly and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: like she did the things like that. I think that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: she came out and they held the show for her.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: They knew that like And then the famous scene, they
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: film it. She comes home at 5 a.m.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: So she was still on the show when this happened.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: They just basically didn't film for a year. They waited
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: for her. Really? Yeah. And then when she comes back,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: he's like, how you doing? That's why they're divorced. But
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: when the girls come and hug her, I still get
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: chills from it because she's She is a very dedicated
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: mother to her daughter.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I think I might have seen a clip of that.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: That was a while ago. I don't watch the show,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: but I remember that because I remember her.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Face because she was so Italian. Yeah. And now these
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: other shows, there's criminals in every single franchise now.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Well, there's criminals all over the motherfucking planet right now.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: It's always shocking that someone is so arrogant and so...
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: so narcissistic that they think they can go on TV
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: while they're doing a completely shady thing and think that
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to go away with it. I mean, it's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: a huge target on your back when you're on TV.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I always imagine with Teresa Giudice and her husband, I'm like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: was the DA just like getting in bed and his
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: wife was watching something? And he was like, let me
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: go check out these people. Like, where did it like,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: She still doesn't know how they were targeted, but we'll
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: never know. She used to blame her cast members. She
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: used to blame one of the other girls. She used
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: to blame other people saying, you put the target on
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: our back. And it made it all so juicy. Juicy.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Okay, getting back to you and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: then I'll let you go. Okay, so now you have
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: your OnlyFans. You also have your clothing company. Which is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: pretty edgy, fun stuff.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: And you have the jewelry line. So tell us about those. Yeah.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Are you wearing some of it?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: I am. I have a big gun hanging around my
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: neck right now. Don't get scared. Don't clutch your pearls.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Just clutch your guns. We're living in dangerous times.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's very cool looking. And I think a
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people will love it.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: What does that retail for?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: These are gold plated. They're heavy. You know, it's a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: big thing. I've been wearing it all summer before we
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: launched it to make sure it didn't do weird shit.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Because a lot of jewelry does weird shit.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: And this is perfect. Like not one. It's still as.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Gold as gold can be.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: It's really, really well done. This is like $ 150. 20 maybe.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: And then we have nameplates because Adriana and her nameplates
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: were very important. That's the tombstone collection. Know who you
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: are kind of thing. And then, I mean, you have
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: a little one on. What makes ours a little different
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: is you can put a charm in here.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. Around the necklace?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You can put it. And it's sort of, you know,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: it connects to it. It's not hanging. It's in there.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: That's unique.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: It's cute.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: You can see them on the website. But in that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: part of the protection collection, these are the protection collection.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: We have them hanging. We have them that go across.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: And you can put your name on it. Or it
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: can say Ultra Free, like the name of our company,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: because you want to be ultra free. Because who doesn't
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: want to be ultra free? Yeah. For some reason, ultra
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: free is the word that gets me banned sometimes. every
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: day on Instagram these days because you can't talk about
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: wanting to be that. That's a four-letter word. But yeah,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: some people get a little freaked out by the guns.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: But when I was on The Sopranos, everyone wanted my jewelry.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: And I wore a revolver because my ex's name is Shooter.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I wore bullets hanging from my ears, which we're going
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: to be doing also because I always hang my Italian
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: horn from my hoop. So we're doing that later. But
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: right now we have the guns and the name plates.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: We'll do the pinky rings too. I see you looking
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: at my pinky ring. You know, because you got to
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: have the initial pinky.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: And what did you think about when all of a
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: sudden the mob wife aesthetic became a trend like this
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: past year?
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  Speaker 3: It was right as we were going out to launch
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Ultra Free, which was really funny because I was like, geez,
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  Speaker 3: I got to go and talk about this mob wife
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: aesthetic thing. What timing. This was my opinion on the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: mob wife aesthetic. why would anybody be hyped up on
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  Speaker 3: looking like a woman who gets cheat on, beat up
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  Speaker 3: and walks around with two black eyes and you need
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: makeup now, like the mob wife aesthetic, everyone's doing makeup tutorials.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, make sure you have your black eye on
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: before you start doing your tutorial. I was like, let's
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: change the name of this to gangster goddess. Come on guys.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think there's what I always loved about
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: it is that, you know, Even though they're murderers and
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: awful people, there was always like a passion and the gifts.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Like it's the same reason why people love Pretty Woman.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: It's like– but he took her shopping. Like I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's something about that that's like we know it's wrong.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: We know these women aren't being treated right. But then
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: there's this other part. of women that love to be
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: catered to, taken care of, given a box at dinner
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: of jewelry, and that's a fantasy too. So it's a fantasy.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Of course. I go both ways when it comes to that.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Hold the door open. I like being a chick. But
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: I also am like half a dude in my own way.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: But the mob wife aesthetic, I think that the only
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: show that ever showed strong women in that world was
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: The Sopranos. All the other chicks in that world were
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: never really strong in the other films. Sopranos, those women
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: were ruling. I mean, look at the mom. I mean,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: she was in control of the whole fucking operation there
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: for a while because she ran his emotions.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was so juicy. It's so great. Well, tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody where they can find your stuff.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: At ultrafree.co. And if you dare to look me up
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: on Instagram and you have to put my whole entire
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: name into your And to your feed.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Drea D. Mateo, two Ts.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then also there's the link there for the clothing
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: and the products and stuff, which I think you'll really like.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ultra Free with two As.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I can talk to you for hours, so we'll have
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to have you come back. And I liked explaining Housewives
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: to you and getting your opinion.
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  Speaker 3: I would love it. I want to watch it with
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: you right here. We could do like a watching party.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: We should do a watch thing. I would love it.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, the original episodes. I don't know it.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: The old stuff is the best. That's the best.
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  Speaker 3: I only want to watch Italian stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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