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Best Of Full Interview: Rome & Jess Hilarious Unpack Their Co-Parenting Relationship + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in the j n V.
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  Speaker 3: Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the gud We are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the belt because today
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  Speaker 4: it's National co Parenting Day, So we had to bring
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  Speaker 4: in a man who I feel like him and just
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  Speaker 4: have one of the best co parenting relationships I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Room is here, Room is here. I got trouble already
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  Speaker 1: use of you.
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  Speaker 2: You got it already.
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  Speaker 1: I got in trouble caause of you already. Wow, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Just say, I want to know who gave Room some
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  Speaker 3: LIQUIDORPOI And I was like, I didn't give it to it.
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  Speaker 1: I just told him where the ball was. Yes, help yourself,
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  Speaker 1: help yourself, that's fine.
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  Speaker 5: And you said it was You said it was apple juice.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was about to take a step and
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  Speaker 5: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, was not you know one apple juice? I just
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  Speaker 1: ain't thank you. Was gonna pick the cup up you and.
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  Speaker 4: Just have the best co parenting situation I've ever witnessed.
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  Speaker 4: How did y'all get to this point?
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  Speaker 2: Brong?
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  Speaker 1: And she thinks she my mother first and foremost, But
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  Speaker 1: it took Tom it took tom. I felt like, when
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  Speaker 1: you take the feelings out of it and you realize
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  Speaker 1: that the child is the most important part of the relationship,
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  Speaker 1: because it's still a realyship, whether you're intimate or not,
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  Speaker 1: you can do magical things, magical things. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that me being a dad that I was and that
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  Speaker 1: I am still today, I wanted that. I felt like
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  Speaker 1: if we wasn't gonna be together, it was no need
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  Speaker 1: for us to beef. We've created over time. Whereas now
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  Speaker 1: she's my best friend, She's my safe space. I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I convent to her because sometimes all the
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  Speaker 1: time I need it. But I feel like when I
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  Speaker 1: was pouring into these other women, they would use it
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  Speaker 1: against me.
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  Speaker 6: M M.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas though now and now that she's pregnant, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really call it and say certain things because I know
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  Speaker 1: she's going through certain things mentally now. So just as
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  Speaker 1: always with my safe space though, so it's like she's
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  Speaker 1: always been the person that I go to a call,
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  Speaker 1: give me advice, some advice on take, but just to hear,
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  Speaker 1: but just to hear her give it to you, just
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  Speaker 1: to know that she care, because I don't really have nobody.
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  Speaker 3: How did y'all, how did y'all meet how did you
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  Speaker 3: meet Jess? And how did y'all start dating?
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  Speaker 2: Back then?
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  Speaker 1: What did you see it?
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  Speaker 3: When it was like, oh, this is this is somebody
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  Speaker 3: I want to know that. It's crazy because we grew
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  Speaker 3: up on the smile. He's starting to smile.
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  Speaker 1: Because we grew up in the same church. But we
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. We didn't know my mom, my mom was alive,
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  Speaker 1: my mom down. When I was ten, my mom was alive.
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  Speaker 1: We went to the same church. My mom died. My
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  Speaker 1: father like really took me away from everybody. So now
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  Speaker 1: it was like fast forward with Mike seventeen. It's Facebook
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  Speaker 1: and it's after my Space Facebook, and she came across
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  Speaker 1: my timeline and I was like, okay, so I did
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  Speaker 1: a dot dot dot and I put a basketball emoji.
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  Speaker 2: You thought she was a w just.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up play with you. She bid on it take okay.
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  Speaker 1: She she was like what I forgot what she said,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like, I was just I think.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball.
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  Speaker 2: Coming to get was mine something?
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  Speaker 6: I said, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: And you want a basketball room?
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  Speaker 1: I need to know I've seen it somewhere. Basketball No
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  Speaker 1: I seen somebody do that, like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it basketball year, so I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I did it because I thought it was it was corny,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought.
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  Speaker 2: It was you know, but it worked. It got our attention.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think just when you saw the basketball?
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  Speaker 5: I just I said, what the is this? I just
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  Speaker 5: typed that back and like he said, it was my ball.
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  Speaker 5: It's my ball and I'm coming to get I'm coming
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  Speaker 5: to get it or something like I'm coming to get
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  Speaker 5: with mine.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, what's that. I knew what
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  Speaker 6: I was giving, what it was about.
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  Speaker 2: It, but it worked.
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  Speaker 1: It worked.
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  Speaker 3: So you started talking, where was your first date? What
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  Speaker 3: was your first when you started first talking? What was
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  Speaker 3: your honest? Man, Jasica did a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this before a lot of these young
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  Speaker 1: guys became Jody.
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  Speaker 2: I was Jody and.
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  Speaker 1: That first date, big date. I'm gonna say it with
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  Speaker 1: six flags, Okay, okaying, all right, big.
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  Speaker 2: I never had a birth certificate that my mom died.
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  Speaker 2: It was here.
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  Speaker 1: My dad didn't want to come here to get it
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  Speaker 1: in New York because he was born in I was
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  Speaker 1: going to Staated Island. So my dad didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: get it. So for a long time I just had
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  Speaker 1: a college I D. I was driving on a college
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  Speaker 1: I D. But Jessica, it was the simplest one to
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  Speaker 1: let me drive with no ID. I met with no license,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was responsible though, so I
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  Speaker 1: used to work at the car wash. I used to
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  Speaker 1: clean it, shine it up, jealumtizing old nine yards. But
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  Speaker 1: our first date with six Flags that morning, I went
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  Speaker 1: to get my permit before we left for six Flags.
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  Speaker 1: But I felt I went in there on my high horses.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I felt at first, big written flag. It
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  Speaker 1: was written, but it was a computer written get written difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I failed the one where it said put on your
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  Speaker 1: high beings or your low beings when it's when it's
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  Speaker 1: like when it's raining or something like that, or when
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  Speaker 1: it's the ground most slippery.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have shades on when you took No.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't really wear shades like that. I did, But
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  Speaker 1: there was another you know, yeah, but first big date,
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  Speaker 1: six Flags. But before that we did a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other things. But after that it was we did a
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  Speaker 1: lot like she introduced me to a lot. Actually we
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  Speaker 1: both was the same age, but she helped make me
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  Speaker 1: become God, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Becoming a man, coming to man and then yeah, then boom.
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  Speaker 3: I just always says that you are you were overprotective,
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  Speaker 3: make sure she was good.
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  Speaker 1: But she always said you can't fight. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: she never seen me fight.
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  Speaker 2: We fought.
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  Speaker 6: I got that from.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I'm not going to fight her.
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  Speaker 1: Bro Oh it's crazy because I just got a picture
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  Speaker 1: from the window.
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  Speaker 2: You bust the minds one window? Would I fish? What
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  Speaker 2: what happened?
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  Speaker 3: You can't be herd And if she could break a
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  Speaker 3: window from a fist out when you're trying to fight,
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  Speaker 3: what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Wrong?
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  Speaker 2: To take a sip thinking about that? What happened? All right?
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking.
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  Speaker 1: I was just in North Carolina this weekend. I was
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  Speaker 1: just talking about this, like how my step brothers was
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  Speaker 1: like corny and ship right my step like, Jessica pull up,
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  Speaker 1: mindre ate together. Jasica pulls up. I had a girl
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  Speaker 1: in the house. So my brother like he comes to
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  Speaker 1: the top of the steps, like just at the door.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here I come.
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  Speaker 2: The nigga.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even wait for me to come.
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  Speaker 2: He let her in. He let her in. Oh boy,
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  Speaker 2: I walked right past him and his friends with the
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  Speaker 2: girl Jessica get in steps.
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  Speaker 6: That she wrote, but what did I see when I
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  Speaker 6: walked down the steps?
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  Speaker 2: Jerne, you didn't see? And then she tries to fassage
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  Speaker 2: this story.
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  Speaker 1: Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassing that we can
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  Speaker 1: put it in the trunk, send it to her, bring
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  Speaker 1: it back. Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me
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  Speaker 1: and the girl was on on the bed. I had
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  Speaker 1: on basketball short she had on her uniform pants. She
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, she's been saying she was the middle of
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  Speaker 1: CEO correct the military.
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  Speaker 2: She's a correctional officer.
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  Speaker 1: So like she's sitting she's facing me, but her legs
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  Speaker 1: is like you know how that goes just to come
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  Speaker 1: down and says she keeps. She gonna say, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: was naked. We was not naked. Its been happening. I
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  Speaker 1: don't get naked. And when she topped it up, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, she's never gonna tells anyway, she banged the girl.
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  Speaker 2: You beat up the girl.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't beat up bang popped us and I.
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  Speaker 2: Picked up.
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  Speaker 1: And walked up the stairs and through outside.
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  Speaker 6: You could never lift me.
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  Speaker 1: You never see what I'm saying, she never wants to
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  Speaker 1: She never wants to admit the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't fight. No, I ain't.
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  Speaker 5: Know she could fight or not. But she d the
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  Speaker 5: one time. And then she she put on her uniform
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  Speaker 5: and went unless went upstairs.
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  Speaker 2: Is truth, I promised you. I wish it was that that.
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  Speaker 6: No, And my son was not in no portable nothing.
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  Speaker 5: He was on the floor on a blanket and the
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  Speaker 5: cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, under the carpet. So I will never lay my
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even lay on the floor.
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  Speaker 6: So I was my son on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: My son was in a portable bassinet.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, y'all were arguing about this for eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Never want to tell you she was drunk out of
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  Speaker 1: her mind. And I'm trying to figure out I was
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  Speaker 1: just getting off of work.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't, damn you didn't just get off where he
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  Speaker 5: was fired at that time. So I got fired right
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  Speaker 5: after that. I was working at McDonald's. That's when I
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  Speaker 5: was stealing this is and then if I was drinking, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I was drinking on the job, but I was at work.
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  Speaker 5: So and then I came to get my son and
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  Speaker 5: it did not come.
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  Speaker 1: Get your son, because it was my weekend. So what
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  Speaker 1: I was getting until Monday from day kid, why would
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  Speaker 1: you coming? No, he was coming to be nosy.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have to come to me.
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  Speaker 2: You was looking for the passing your winter.
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  Speaker 1: If you get.
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  Speaker 2: She because go home. Eleven years you still years old?
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's my god.
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  Speaker 2: How did you break the women?
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  Speaker 1: That was her hands and you walked out this? No,
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  Speaker 1: I threw ass out.
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  Speaker 6: Not that you was not that strong.
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  Speaker 4: You did not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I had you and it was steps
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  Speaker 1: jazz that right.
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  Speaker 6: There had never ever eaten right now, could not do that.
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  Speaker 6: You hit the window because I was just really really
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  Speaker 6: because he wouldn't give me my son. She's give me
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  Speaker 6: my son.
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  Speaker 2: You called the police and say I didn't call the police.
• 9:40
  Speaker 6: Call the police.
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  Speaker 1: Never called the police. Yeah, I didn't call the police. Pause, listen, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: very everybody here this well, I'm from the jail.
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  Speaker 6: Is right there, right around the corner.
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  Speaker 1: You can walk.
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  Speaker 2: It's two minutes the commotion.
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  Speaker 6: He walked to us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how they came. I thought my stepmother called,
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  Speaker 1: my god mother call one. It was my step mother house,
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  Speaker 1: my god mother house. Somebody called because I ain't call
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  Speaker 1: the police. My phone was cracked because you cracked the
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  Speaker 1: phone his phone, but he can still everybody in the
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  Speaker 1: house had the phone.
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  Speaker 5: He called my he called the police on me and
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  Speaker 5: then going and then when the police came, I was
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  Speaker 5: I just sat in my car.
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  Speaker 6: I was mad.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, no, I can't move here to get
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  Speaker 5: my son. And Nicole did tell me your come on
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  Speaker 5: this pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He'd
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  Speaker 5: not giving you the baby. I was like, all right, cool,
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: but I was mad, so I didn't pull off. Police
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: paddy wagon pulled up and got out, and you was like,
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  Speaker 5: she right there.
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  Speaker 1: Was I trying to get you? How did I try
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: to get you locked up when I'm the same one
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  Speaker 1: call trying to bail you out with no money.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why you ever thought you could build
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  Speaker 6: somebody out with no mindy.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't sleep that night, ChEI out. You have a
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: been you ever went through a woman phone? Of course?
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  Speaker 1: Could you eat after that? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: You could? Well I couldn't. I'm comparing that to you
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  Speaker 2: when she went to jail. I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and sick. I was sick.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't want jail. Why the would I
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  Speaker 1: call the police. So, how did you push the window?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I had brought.
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  Speaker 2: Up to it.
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  Speaker 6: And then I just he had a.
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  Speaker 1: Honda Honda call six.
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  Speaker 2: No it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was my first car and.
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  Speaker 2: It just got ain't like it when I got it
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  Speaker 2: because you're jealous. Now, that's what freedom. I had.
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  Speaker 1: Freedom once I got it, right much. She couldn't call
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  Speaker 1: me say bring me my car back, Jody right.
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  Speaker 2: I never called you that. I never called you. She
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  Speaker 2: took you to get the car.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't never seen nobody.
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  Speaker 1: When we when we when we got when I got
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  Speaker 1: the car.
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  Speaker 2: When I got in the car, she was like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't like this ship.
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  Speaker 6: I said, yeah, so this means you Redy really be
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  Speaker 6: doing you.
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  Speaker 2: Because she was doing you.
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  Speaker 6: He would drop me off the work and go act
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  Speaker 6: like he in class.
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  Speaker 1: I was stud then I was there to beat for
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  Speaker 1: my associates.
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  Speaker 2: That's I did.
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  Speaker 1: I went to class because that's why you got off
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: work two o'clock. You had to be to work six o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: So I was getting up five am every morning. We
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: got to your work. You got to job by five
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  Speaker 1: forty five. I got out of class at one thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Did my homework for the fifteen minutes, came the cold Spring,
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  Speaker 1: make Downalds and picked you up. Then we went home.
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  Speaker 2: That was my routine. Money to Friday, won a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things. But did you hurt your hand? No, it
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  Speaker 2: didn't hurt.
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  Speaker 6: Until I got in jail. I ain't gonna lie when
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  Speaker 6: I got in jail, but it hurts.
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  Speaker 2: She sobered up.
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  Speaker 6: This is the crazy thing. I was not that drunk.
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  Speaker 6: So then when I got to guess.
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  Speaker 1: Who did my job?
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  Speaker 5: Damn gotten no gas? Who did my intake? The damn girl.
• 12:31
  Speaker 6: Who was with him?
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  Speaker 2: The one did you punched?
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  Speaker 6: Yeap, yes she went.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't do that.
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  Speaker 6: Ye did the same girl that I popped.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she did it, but she didn't say nothing because
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: she couldn't be caught up in nothing like that.
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  Speaker 6: Got fired.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I straight sold on her, like yeah, because I
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  Speaker 5: was like.
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  Speaker 1: So you talk absolutely seems like.
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  Speaker 2: This is just a little wow.
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  Speaker 5: How could you actually want to fuck with a nigga
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  Speaker 5: who laid his baby and the cats.
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  Speaker 1: On the on the carpet.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't mad at that on that very much because
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what she could have tried to do
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  Speaker 4: to you in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: So you gotta put everything on.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, no, it was ghetto will be gotten,
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  Speaker 6: and that's what it was.
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  Speaker 4: So now when you hear this story and you say
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  Speaker 4: to yourself, why they there on National co Parent Day
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  Speaker 4: because they are like the best of friends. Now they
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  Speaker 4: call each other, just calls you her brother, how do
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  Speaker 4: you feel about that?
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  Speaker 1: How did y'all get there?
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  Speaker 2: Do you look at her like your sister created and
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  Speaker 2: you said, mama.
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  Speaker 6: I was gonna say what she said?
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  Speaker 2: Created that like my mother, Like when we are the
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  Speaker 2: town and she had like my mother.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna disclose too much, but she thinks she
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  Speaker 1: my mother. No, I just know she likes to control,
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  Speaker 1: like she know how I am though like me and alone.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I think part of that controlling Parut is like, don'kay,
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  Speaker 1: brod be twenty of us. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: with y'all. So guess what I'm gonna do?
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  Speaker 5: And he can go out of town with these twenty
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  Speaker 5: people and then be like all right, I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 5: we could.
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  Speaker 1: Be all on the sprinter.
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  Speaker 6: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: No sprint or whatever state we go to. Bro, I'm
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: won't even gonna go with a rental or slingshot or
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: something better not be raining. But I think that that
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: controlling part comes into just because she cares. And sometimes
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: especially when I'm under the influence, I've done dumbass ship.
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  Speaker 3: So as good as you know that, I don't know
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: if you heard just assist in the back.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Everybody like you know, everybody knows, but I hold myself
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: accountable to that mind you Now, I ain't gonna say
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: you I learned from woman sick because I did a
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: dumb ass.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Ship over and over again.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: the mother with the v coming, but the brother calling
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: me brother and sister were like, honestly without the child
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: like it it's there. It's it's seemed like Amazon cameras off,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: like you can't fake this or make this ship up.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Rome started that room started calling me sis first,
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: and then I started calling him bro. I you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, we do have like a sibling dynamic
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: in some way. You know, he's still confides in my mom.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: He like my mom is our mother. Like it's not
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: it ain't nothing crazy, it's nothing intimate. Like seriously, I
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: always say this, people be like yeah, right, I can
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: literally walk past and I don't do this. But what
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, I can walk past this man NIGGD and
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: he does they be like, girl, what like put that out?
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about seriously, like.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: How do y'all know each other's spouses or each other's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: boyfriend and girlfriend? Like how do you deal with his girl?
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: And how do you deal with with you have seventeen
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: baby mamas?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Five?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I never told you he had.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody always tried. It's cool. Though, it's cool, get five.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But this is this and now this was the friction
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: part and we got over that. But this the fri
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: The friction part was my mom my business. I don't
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: getting her ship, but the friction part was her getting
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: into minds. But she's still a woman. I'm still a man.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: So women tend to do that. And this is not
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: no shame of women. I don't mean no disrespect by
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: saying it, but I think women tend to do that,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: especially a woman that care about you.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: She said, sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: as your sister to make sure you're.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Good, regardless if it's life relationship or whatever. Correct she
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: said with me personally, I never really like I talk
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: to her about certain things, but I never really like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: my family to get into no intimate situation. Yeah, because
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: guess what, y'all can feel a way about this person, however,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I'll want, whether it's negative of good. If I'm gonna
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: deal with this person, I'm gonna deal with her like
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the female can smack shit out me yesterday.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I might get over it and fucking them all. But
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, that's why I always That's how I was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: always able to distinguish the two. Like when Jessica will
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: have men when she come to me, like, I don't know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: like I ain't never pillow talking or sneak dish or
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: nothing like I don't really care for Like it ain't
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: nothing a nigga have that I don't if you put
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: it in that sense. But when she comes to me
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: with a man, I tell her ain't right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: But both of y'all got to share, though, because you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: gonna want to know who around your son.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I never did though, Yeah, I never so in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: beginning stage. Yeah, don't have this nigga my summer. But
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I grew out of that. So now it's I trust
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: my child mom enough to she won't bring no fans
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: sit around my child. So I don't say, oh, don't
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: have this nigga. That's never been a problem. It has
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: been a problem. Was motherfucker's envy me except for my
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: last dog. Yeah, my dogs.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Who's the dog? My dog? Chris, Chris, Chris, my dog.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. He I think he's the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think like honestly, me and jess Man like, I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: think it's been times where a woman didn't like me
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and her situation.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: But guess what, bye, yeah more so on and yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: it'll be more so on his end because it's much
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: more of them. But the thing is, the thing is,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: like I don't like when because I even tell him
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: what he's going wrong to, Like, yo, don't cheat her
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: like that?
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: This is how how how you going to introduce me
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: to it?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Now I done got to know where you know, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: whether she had a kid or not. Most of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: time it's the ones that have the kids. But it's like, yo,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: you gotta do right or just be single, Like, don't
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: keep hurting women in the process of trying to find
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: what you're looking for. I mean, I know that's all
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: a part of dating, but when you have kids, it's different,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: you know, and then here be like, oh, that's why
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: I don't like you to be getting into it, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: And then I don't like he he attracts a lot
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: of toxic women to like abusive relationships where women will
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: put their hands on them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I'm like, what, all right, you know? But he don't.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: He's like, no, but I might be fucking with it
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: them all what she just blacks your eye?
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like, no, we're not doing it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: But okay, well she busts your nose whatever. Women have
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: put their hands.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: On you, and that's why, and that's why she's my dog,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Like I think she's the only one, really honestly, the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: one to get the fuck under my skin. Like it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a certain word place she used and I don't care
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: what tone she used it in, but to say that,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: it's like I was really never taught how to love
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like fem I lost my mom at ten years old.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: My heart, I'm moving my dad, and when I move
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: with my dad, my dad move my dad and my
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: step mom, which is my mom. Now me and my
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: mom have a great relationship. That's my step mom and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my dad was married, but my dad was cheating, like saying,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: like my dad, my dad showing me ship that all right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking cool. So like when even when I started
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: All that, my dad was like, yeah, so absolutely.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking it's cool because that's that's That's what
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm saying from being taught like and every man in
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: my life that I looked at as a role model
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to me was the same way. So it's like what
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you expect. But the good thing is now it's like
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm old enough now in mind you I ain't perfect.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now I'm seeing it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to, you know, change it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But I never was taught to love properly, so and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I never my trust issues is fucked up from my dad,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Like brought my trust issues fighting met her because I'm
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: saying what he's doing, but I'm saying when it's done
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to him, his reactions like damn, my nigga, you were
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just doing this? How you gonna get mad? Right? So
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it's like every relationship I've went into. I had an
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: exploration date me, I put an X ray on myself.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I said, she's gonna get, she gonna get get what
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm gone.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So I never really gave a woman the what's the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: word I'm looking for. I never really gave a woman commitment,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: not even commitment, but I've never gave the woman a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: chance to really love me. But even with the kids,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like even having kids, No, I haven't. And this is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: like I said, no distress to my children moms. A
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: lot of my my children came out of vulnerability. M
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: explain found on that and i'ma explaining that. So I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: will meet a woman who I may feel like she's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: what I need, another safe place or whatever the case
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: may be. But I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: have a child, knowing I don't want to be with
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this woman. I don't want to. I don't I really
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: don't want to be with her, but I feel like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm forced to be with her because of a child.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And I've done that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: You know multiple times you needed a therapist, not another baby, Mama,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I need correct but.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: At the time of need, at the time of vulnerability.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know women, you know women, women can they be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: masked up?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: And also you know, just on an accountability part, which
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: he has taken over his recent years, is like you
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: was looking for like your mom and women, and you
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: would never get that, you know what I'm saying, because
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you was trying to look for an emotional connection with
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: with you know, nurturing also and then like you was
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: really really search searching for Keisha, keisha'ss mother, You were
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: really searching for her and women. You know, that's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: different type.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Of love, you know what I mean.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think different women always dealt with different women because
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: different women had certain.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: What is it, certain things, certain aspects of.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Her, aspects of it. But like I never knew how
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to be alone, bro, Like I would be single and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: my own apartment and all that and let it go
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and go move with a woman because I never knew.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Really I don't know how to I don't like being
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: lonely like so it's like a lot of the times
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: when I say this ship is real, like I don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: know if a lot of other men like me. But
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: when being lonely, bro, you go through s. She I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: don't give how much money you got, I don't care
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: about none of that. But like I never really knew
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: how to be alone, Like I feel like I gotta
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: have somebody laying next to me because even before my
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: mom died. My mom was sleepnked. This is a back
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: then thing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: How old were you with you?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I was ten, but I was a mommy's boy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Did you ever did you ever really properly so grieving?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: No?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I never really grieved. All I did was I thought
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: it was gonna help by going to school for social work,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: because that's what she was. But I never really probably
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a grieved and that's a that's a process.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I do want to get, you know, back in the gym.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I do want to get a therapist, but I don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: want everything else around me to be intact so that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I could fully commit, because if I ain't fully committed,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: And then as I also feel like your your dad
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: didn't get you any tape my.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Dad honestly, I felt like me personally, And this is
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: probably the first time I said this, like I did.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I think my father really wanted me for a check
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and exactly what I said, like the money and lied
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to me for so long. I lost a scholarship because
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of my dad because at the time, where I wanted
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to go, I wanted to get away from them, so
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I had I had a couple of scholarships. I had
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like over thirty acceptances. I got to accept it to
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a school in Florida.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: I think, isn't did your mom leave you money or.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah my mom?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom, So my mom left mine. The government
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: gave you a job, my mom, My mom left money.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: My mom was getting money and you know, social Security.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So it was like my dad was making bank like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I did that. I ain't even say the calculations. Calculations
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: is crazy. What's your relationship with your dad now?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Is be okay?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You know, be all right? He you know, he's still
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: living with that regret, and I feel like that's why
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: we can't really get there. But yeah, like I feel like.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: My dad wanted me for a check man moved a scholarship.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I lovet scholarship. I lost a scholarship because August, like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: twov she's full school was supposed to start.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I had got it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I was leaving like my mom's side. They bought all
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: my dorm stuff and all of that. All my life,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: my father always said, yeah, when you get eighteen, you're
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: gonna have money. You can go get your car, you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: can go do what you want, you go to school,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: whatever the case. Me to be all right, cool, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: get eighteen, I graduate. It's nothing there, I asked my father.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's still no answer to the father
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: never even answered, so I know I got a scholarship.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I had a partial scholarship, So a partial scholarship with
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the you're paying the school and on and room and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: board that's at the school I was going through. That
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was about sixteen seventeen thousand semester. I had like a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: forty two thousand dollars partial joint. So my dad was
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: always saying, all right, I got the rest. I got
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the rest. So two weeks before I was supposed to leave,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So a month before I supposed to be, my family
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: got all my door and stuff. A week before I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was supposed to leave, my father called me up to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the room and he like, I didn't even say what
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: he said. I'm like, he like, you can't go to school.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why not, Like nigga, I'm an age student,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like I work hard for it. I was an athlete.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I was a student. I ain't getting no office from
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: basketball my junior senior year. So I gave up and said,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna fall back on my grades. You
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: always said I had the money. The money wasn't there.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: He spent it all. And you know, we turned eighteen,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: like seventeen and a half, it stopped coming. But even
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: even if it come again, when I'm eighteen, that's one check,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all the rest gone. And my stepmother used to always
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: tell him, my step and I love my stepmother for this,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and I wish I'd known this when I was younger.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But my stepmother used to always tell them put that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: money up. But she never came to me because she
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: didn't want to overstep the boundaries of her husband. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I understood it. But now that I'm grown and we
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: have conversations now, it's like I understood it because my
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: father always tried to make people hate me. I hated
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: my step Yeah, I hated my step mother growing up,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: but it was never heard. It was him. Lights ain't
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: get cut off. We had Christmases because of my stepmam.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: My dudes got paid. My senior du I'm talking abu
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: middle school dudes, Mi bro, you' getting money for me.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: My middle school dues, my stepmother paid them. My step
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: mother and my teachers paid them.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: High school dues, my stepmother paid them. And my friends.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I got two friends thead Mother's paid all that, so
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it was like my dad really crushed me. Man. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: told my dad a couple of weeks ago. Man I said, bro,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you hate me, not literally saying you hate me, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you hate me so much because I got you. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: caught your ways.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I said, what the.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Difference between me and I'm young and I'm chaying I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: gonna change them. You're twenty years older than me, You're
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: still doing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: The same thing. You want to break those cycles.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And I want to. It's not even me breaking a cycle, bro,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I just I don't like being like this, Like I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: don't like hurting people. I don't like hurting women, don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like I never really heard. I'm so loyal to my
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: friends that any little disloyal thing they do to me,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they cut off. So it's like the shit be hurting man,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, damn, I already had nobody. So then
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when I got a child, mom, I cherish it. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: tell how trash the really ones you love, the really
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: ones that's genuinely there for you, the ones that you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: ain't got to do nothing for them, And I really
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: love you because guess what, at the end of the day,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when shit goes if shit go bad, they're gonna be
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the one you came on.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: You know, there's this thing when when you start going
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: to therapy you'll hear about. It's this thing called the
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: mother womb, and it's a type of attachment trauma that
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: instills deeply rooted beliefs that make the child feel unloved, abandoned,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: unworthy of care, and numb to their feelings.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: That is that feel like you mass low loss, mass
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: low loss. It's done you as a child, will affect
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you as an adult, but it will not define you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's crazy because going to schools, like, man,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you're reading this sh I'm like, man, it's me. It's me,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm thinking of my own therapists. But
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you know, every therapist need a therapist, and that's how
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: they that's how they able to be effective. So it's like, man, like, no,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I've been through I ain't have a bad upbringing, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I've been through some traumatic situations, man, and you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like I ain't. They ain't gonna define me like them
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: babies and mom Man, I love them babies. I feel
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like if it were't for my babies, I'd have crashed.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Out long time ago, long time ago.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And that's what I said. I got them babies, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: out of all my truck I got, I got I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: got two children moms like that. My last one, you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: she she made no harm by certain things, but I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: got that one, and I got this one to my left,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: man my dog. And it's like she give me hope
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: every day. She don't even know it, like even when
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you know, we might not even argue, but like it
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: be days I wake up, she's doing you all right?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: How you feeling, just because I know that she needed
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like when you when you when you the the shoulders
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: in the head of families or communities, bro. Like it's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a lot, you know, honestly, I think them people need
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it the most. So I give her her flowers every
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: day and I feel like man like without a yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I think you're on the right back.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: You know, they stay healing the mother when first starts
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: with acknowledging the pain and then seeking professional help. What
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: you want to do, cultivating healthy relationships, what y'all have done,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: and you're focusing on self care personal growth. Yes, right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: you're definitely on the right path.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Just won't get that mass time take time, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: but it'll be there.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: How did y'all that's the most imant thing, that the
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: most I won't say most important, one of the most
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: important things.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: How did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: No more?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: How did that just go away? Like y'all have y'all
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: love each other? But not in that way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I got my answer, you want to go first, you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: can go first, because I'm still thinking when I stopped
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: caring about when she dealt with when I wouldn't even
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't even care, Like, how did that take?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Three years?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So like when Ashton was like three, yeah, it was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: still really yeah, it was like three years, but at
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that but honestly that three years, like I had called
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: her a big check. So it's like when I I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was almost half a million nigga, So it was like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it was the pain that I had. Whatever the case
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I would I would pay. I would like just buy
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: ship to block it out.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But other than that, like, you ain't trying to stunt
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: on her a little bit?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: No, I never, no, I never, no, I never.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: I'm waiting for that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I never intentionally stunned on her. I never did that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I did everything she possibly could ask me to do.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And she said on one of these souls something about
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a B G. E. Bill And I'm addressed that I
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: never wanted that. I'm addressed that now the bi so
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: so I'm explaining her lights got cut off. I got
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a five hundred dollar checking Listen. No, it wasn't right
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: then and there. It's over time because like mind a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: lot of my place.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: She helped me.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: She helped me get a lot on the back end,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: but in a time like I helped her. Whatever the case,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't know she was moving with a man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: I didn't move with a man.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Well she moved the man in with her.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, after he had you and the dog too.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Now before in my business. So I don't know that
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: he's not there, so boom hiss his So his's his.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Here's my logic, And I'm a say what I'm gonna
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: say to her after I explain it. My logic was,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: all right, man is in the house. Boom be eagy
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: cut off, right, I'm thinking, like damn, So she like
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: was wrong. I'm like, well, I take my son with me.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't me talking. That was the girlfriend I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: had talking.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Oh, ship, you ain't tell me that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I never told you that because as a woman, you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear that, and I as wants as
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a man, and you be and me, I don't want
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to hear that. So I didn't want to tell you
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: that because I have felt less of a man.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but I'm understand him. If somebody else is
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: smacking the cheeks, you listen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So the girlfriend was living in the house, so the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: girlfriend was like, don't talk about no house ahead.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: of money out the bank. I did.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: She was with me, she like, mind you the certain
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: amount of money. I had to call because I was
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: gonna break it in half give it to Jessica and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I take the rest. And I was going me and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Ashton man as that's all I did, shot and Ashton.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So I was gonna give it that. But the girl like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: why are you giving it to Jessica. I'm like, cause
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: she needed and she like, I never said them here.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I never said the reason. I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I never said the reason though. She was like, what
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: exactly do she needs? Because I know you ain't giving her. No,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: it's something else. She like, well, don't she got a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: nigga living with her, And mind you, I'm drinking at
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the time. Are you thinking the same thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I'm like, you weren't even thinking that till she said it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking. But when she
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: say it, because I'm not, like I said, bro like
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: wives and girlfriends. I seen. I've seen. I've seen men
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: crumble and go against a family because of her wife
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: or a girlfriend.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I've seen it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, You're right?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Why you ain't as just though crazy people say.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Because I was a young emotional boy.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Who had just ran into a bunch of money and
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: came with that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: The bitches every my nigga, I'm hurt, hurt young man,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: got a lot of money. Everybody and fucked me over. Nigga,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I got some money, I'm doing the funk. I wanted
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to make myself happy, and that's how my nigga went broke.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Like it was times when I'm not happy, but I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: go spend money just because I'm not like, Oh, the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: coaches came out like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Everybody except me.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: You feel I was like and granted.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Right now on today, I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: apologized for not taking care of you the way I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: should have, and I'm gonna take my glasses look because
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That ship hurt me. And it's like.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I never ever, ever, especially I never ever ever ever
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: meant to do that. And it's like, now, that's why
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I even I worked so hard today and just try
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to even just give you something. But in due time,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that shit gonna come back. I ain't you know. I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: hadn't made that shit back when broke again, made it
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: back broke again. But my biggest downfall, the comments denominated,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was alcohol and women. So that shit, them two problems
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: never allowed me to really reach my full potential. Because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: even when I seen a couple of years ago, you've
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: seen it twenty nineteen when I was single, when I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: went moved back by myself, I ran that motherfucker.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Up, flourish ran.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I know how that I'm running up.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: But women holding me back. Man, I'm sorry that I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: didn't do what I was supposed to do, and a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: lot of motherfucker said what I was in your job?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That one you done. I felt that was my duty.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But because I had certain people in my in my
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: ear that I thought had their best interest in me.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But when that bag ran out, they left. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not a sorry person.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: I apologize, Okay, I appreciate that, And but listen, I
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: was not.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I was talking to a nigga. He moved in months after.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: You think a nigga was gonna move into a dark house.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: You think you think I wanted the niggas see how
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I was living. No, And when you said I asked you, like, yo,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: can you just get my lights on? I'll pay you back,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: That's when I was scamming and doing all that shit.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: That shit got slow too, So I'm like, all right,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you was like, no, I take my son. Nobody taking
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: my kid, not even as father. Like, as long as
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Ash was instead of the dark, we was good, you
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like I still had candles, we
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: was playing, We was doing all that. We would stay
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: outside until it went until it got dark, and then
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: we would go in the house. And him, he ain't
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: never asked me why the lights ain't coming on.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: It don't matter.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: So as long as he was good, I was good.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to be able, you know what I'm saying,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and just be like, yo, get.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: My life and you should have. But guess what that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: made you a demon? And when I say demon, I said,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: in the best way, that turned you up. And I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: got to teach my kids, especially my oldest boy. Might
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: let me bro like, I don't want you to go
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: through something bad to learn a lesson. I don't think
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: everybody should have to go through something bad andle a lesson.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: But in your case, I feel like, yeah, I put
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that battery in your back, and know when that battery
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: came in your back, you you ain't treat me no way.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It took still a minute for us to create that bond.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But y'all have it now. And I think y'all both
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: should give each other some grades because y'all.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And I always was a hurt young man, so right,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: But I love this story. It shows the foundation and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: now and how y'all treat each other.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know you, but the way she
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: talks about you on the radio, and and like you said,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: she is a mother, she protects you, she holds you down.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I just love to see it. You know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll be telling us stuff talking about room like that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: He always didn't like why you be talking about But
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: I get it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: She don't mean no harm, but she.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Don't like I said, man like I wish a lot
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of other people but take from us. And that's why
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: this ship got to be on TV.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: That's why y'all writing a book.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, book coming, everything book coming, everything coming?
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: You think the most important thing? Because I want you
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: all to save a lot of this. But what's the
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: most important thing? It takes the cold parent if y'all
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: you're just leaving on that because the national core parents
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: to day.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Yo, if I started off communication, like a lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: people be scared to hurt each other feelings and a
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: it's about kids, unhashed differences whatever. Like one day me
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: and Rome just literally met up and just we just
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: talked about everything that. You know, he felt like I
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: did him wrong in certain situations, and then he felt
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: like like I will always try because he says, I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: controlling a lot, and I do take that, you know
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Yeah, I own that, I do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Like I was trying to control how he parents. Sometimes
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: like how he would raise Ash and all of that
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: type of stuff.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: We just put everything on the table and just just
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: was like, all right, you're moving forward because it's really
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: about Ash and that's really like when we after that,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: it was like no looking back.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: It's like all right, whatever. Cool. It was just communication.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But its I think that it's a couple of things, man, communication,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: feelings out of it, ego out of it, ego for sure,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and just man, both parties, both parties gotta be in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it though. Man Like, I feel like you know now,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like even at my kids school and ship, man like,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: dang you should the man. I think that's sucked up
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that your kids school, my children, my own children. I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the father is not a norm
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: so I always been.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I ain't.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: It's not I want. I didn't say a changeing norm,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: but I've changed it on.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Like it's me.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: You ain't got to call the mother, you know, I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: DM maxon, call your father, Yeah that's me. Call me,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: don't call the others. I'm hands on. I'm gonna be there.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And my oldest eleven man young, I just sat to school,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: sat in the class with him the whole day.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: They call you, but Ash called me on the side
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: my dad much.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But that was a thing too. We had to she
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: had to learn don't don't don't try to take the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: father from the child. Let me father him. Because I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: refuse for my son to become a statistic I refuse
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: my son to become a young, hurt little boy. I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: refuse from my son to grow up not knowing how
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to love a woman. I refuse my son to be
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: so many things that his father was. I'm still young,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so I'm still you know, I told I told Naia early.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I said, man, like you know, one of my I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: gonna write my right. I'm gonna write my rights to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: my boys.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I got still unlearning, unlearning right, correct, correct, unlearning to learn.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: When this co parents ain't easy.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Man, and I used to be I used to be
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: hold on him.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: How he was so hard on my son, Like no,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: like you like's gotta want to talk to you. You
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: gotta make him want to talk to you, like he
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: used to like, come and talk to me about things
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: he was scared to go to his father about now
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: because it was any abusive relationships anything. It was just
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: like I can't talk today.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: No, it was my son problem.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And I like to said, I'm creating a young man. Man.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: My some problem was he don't like confor not confrontation,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: but he don't like to confront a man.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: You.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: When I say that me his father, he don't like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to And I tell her, I said, Bro, you don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: like something. You tell me I'm not like my father.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. Oh I'm your father. No, no,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: ain't none of that same black And we go to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: McDonald's and i'd be like, all right, do you six?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Oh dad, I don't want that. All right, what you want?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It's the same concept. I get his head done. Now
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you want hair? Oh dad, I don't like that. Tell me,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: don't go back and tell your mother. That's why I'm
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: getting mad because he was just with me and I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: just asked you. He ain't say nothing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You want to communicate. I want to communicate.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: When you communicate with me, you look me in my
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: eyes and tell me, Dad, I don't want this. You
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna be disrespectful when you said, I want to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: my baby getting better. But I'm here, So it's like,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, it's not hard easy, it's fun.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: You have to make it, make it a little bit.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't like to do that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's just man like.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a mom is different than when
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a dad raising. I'm doing everything that I wanted. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: wanted my father to come up my squell, wanted my
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: dad to talk to me. I wanted my dad to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: ask me what I wanted. I wanted my dad to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: come to my basketball game, my baseball game. My dad
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: been a one baseball game out of four years, two
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: basketball games out of four years.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: You got to make sure you're raising your child out
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: of out of level or no.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to live here, and that's that
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I was scared of my father talk in my mouth.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I got picked bus, I got a bust the whip.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Multip All fathers raised this.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Multip All fathers rais us how to figureuse They didn't
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: want us to end up going down the same path
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: they went down.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So we got to figure out how to raise our
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: kids out of love.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, if mom's moms get this, and I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: think I got that. And I told my dad a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: couple of ago, bro like, you know, because he always
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: come to me with my father said, I don't want
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to hear that ship that I'm a man now. He
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell me how the fuck up. I don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: want to hear that ship. Your father wasn't farther. He
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: was a provider.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a nurturer. I'm a dad father, nurture of my baby.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: Even your response to your dad is angry because.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: He always My response to my dad is what he's
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: given to me.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Now, Like I'm a man now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So it's like I don't have to take that ship.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I leave.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: But he's trying to explain, trying to explain, don't just
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: now figuring.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: He's still ain't figured it out. So it's like you
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: in the room and this meet and be in the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: room because you know, I don't call you about this
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. But this is me being in the room.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It ain't is he. It's a different story, man.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I got somebody for you to talk to him. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: got a therapist. I got a good therapist. I got
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of them.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying it like that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about a real professional, and I got a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: real Yes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: I don't want to require what you want.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I think I got somebody in mind for you doing
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I want a woman, you want a woman. I got
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you I don't like, man, I got you, Yeah, I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: got you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: You know exactly what you talk to.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: That's cool, man. I'm always open to it, man. But
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you know, other than that, like you gotta want it
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: for yourself, and do you you know I've been there, man, Okay,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: cut back. You know, my biggest thing was just cutting
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: back on the alcohol. Like now I do it for recregation.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you for this is recording.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Drink coffee, take a shot, drink no coffee.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: This is a great conversation.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a discussion that will continue on not
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: even just the monkst you know, just in Rome. But
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: this is the month anybody out there, you know, dealing
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: with coparents issue. But I think Rome, you know, Rome
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: is talking to a lot of different issues that a
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: lot of us.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Men go through, you know what I mean.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning, that's right,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And their book is coming
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: soon be a Black Privilege published Simon the Shoes, all right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Well it's wrong. Yes, it's the Breakfast Club in the morning.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club