Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #139: Gill1918 presents Vince Anderson "Acceleration Training Part 2" from Tampa Bay/USF Clinic
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- 0:28If that goes well, we'll go to a four point start in day one.
- 0:31We'll let him get in a four point position and it because
- 0:35remember I gave him a 5 minute tutorial about how far their
- 0:37feet should be apart and that their show that their hand
- 0:40should be below their shoulders. And you notice she's not.
- 0:43There's nothing in this that is accidental.
- 0:46Everything in here is scripted and very deliberate.
- 0:49She's not behind the starting line.
- 0:52Her front foot is on the starting line, but not her
- 0:55hands. There's a reason for that
- 0:57because we're teaching them to just focus with me.
- 1:01Please. Just on the pushing, dear.
- 1:03Don't worry about all that other crap like I'm teaching you how
- 1:07to be violent here and push as hard as you can.
- 1:14So this is exactly like the other except for being a Crouch
- 1:16stance. She's in a four point stance and
- 1:20it looks exactly the same except for the originating position.
- 1:29So second week we're going to start with a three-point stance
- 1:33because that it does something very important.
- 1:36The three-point stance is important because it anticipates
- 1:40the posture that we're going to be in when we run the four by
- 1:43one. Now I know it's only the second
- 1:45week of practice and I know it's September 15th, but we're going
- 1:48to be doing 4 by 1 relay practice and we're going to be
- 1:51leaving the line like this. So get used to it.
- 1:55They don't know that they have to be told.
- 2:02So this is exactly like the four point stance, except we're going
- 2:08to use a trigger hand going back and come out like we do running
- 2:12the relay. So that like I say.
- 2:20So this is Week 2. Then the next thing we do later
- 2:33in that week, now that we've established the three-point
- 2:35relay stats, we're going to do our accelerations, but we're
- 2:38going to do them in the relay zone just like we taught you
- 2:42now. And even though it's Week 2 and
- 2:45we're not going to do relay practice for another 8 or 9
- 2:47weeks, we're going to Start learning how to accelerate in
- 2:51the four by one in the second week of practice and get in a
- 2:55whole hell, a lot of reps of that.
- 2:57So you know exactly what we're doing when the relay practice
- 3:01comes around. We're looking ahead.
- 3:10So she's staying there, we're pretending she's running lane 4,
- 3:13she's staying in the outside of the lane as she would in the
- 3:16race. She's accelerating from a
- 3:17three-point stance. There's not a baton insight,
- 3:20There's not another athlete insight.
- 3:22But damn, are we getting some good work done because we're
- 3:25going to use this soon. It's coming.
- 3:30Get an idea in your head about what's going on now before we
- 3:40introduce starting blocks into the acceleration process, I tell
- 3:43them I speak these words. Today we're introducing metal
- 3:46into the acceleration. Do not change your aggressive
- 3:50pushing. Don't let the presence of metal
- 3:53blow your mind. I speak those words.
- 3:56Load your pedals. It set.
- 3:58Your feet have to go all the way back into the blocks, not not
- 4:03touching your blocks. The blocks are there to be
- 4:05pushed against with your feet. Motor set versus sensory set.
- 4:11That is, anticipate your movements.
- 4:14Do not anticipate the gun. That's a whole lecture unto
- 4:17itself. I won't spend too much time on
- 4:21motor task. When you go push into the
- 4:28pedals, just like when you do a vertical jump, you push into the
- 4:32ground and the ground throws. You push into the pedals, the
- 4:37pedals will throw you. Do not step out of your pedals.
- 4:41Push into them with as much jam as you can.
- 4:46And then we review the purpose of the start.
- 4:48What's the purpose of the start? To push yourself violently into
- 4:53a tall Sprint posture. Failure.
- 4:55To achieve a tall Sprint posture failure.
- 4:57Abject failure of the start. Now a block is present, but
- 5:06we're not going to get down with it.
- 5:08We're going to do a rollover start.
- 5:10So notice the front pedal is on the line and there's a reason
- 5:17for that. The blocks aren't behind the
- 5:18line, the front pedal is on the line.
- 5:21And that's not an accident. It's deliberate.
- 5:26And this is great because now we can kind of roll into that and
- 5:29those who are sort of timid, and there's a lot of these people,
- 5:33those who are kind of timid. Well, I knew this was really
- 5:35afraid to really kind of push as hard as I can.
- 5:39This gives them a little bit more of a chance to do it
- 5:43because if I can rock back and then roll into it, I have a
- 5:47little bit of forward momentum that I can use and kind of learn
- 5:51what it's like to really kind of open up and push a little bit.
- 5:58So she's going to rock back and kind of just roll over that
- 6:02pedal and push off of it. And it's a pretty good result.
- 6:05And people who are sort of a little bit timid to push out of
- 6:09their blocks, this is a really helpful step.
- 6:12They can kind of begin to feel like what that is a little bit
- 6:18because you cannot push too hard.
- 6:20See, that's the thing. I've never told an athlete you
- 6:23push too hard or too long. I've never been able to say
- 6:25those words. I want to, but I never have.
- 6:28They always push too short or not hard enough.
- 6:35You can't over push. So after doing that, now maybe
- 6:39I'm in week four or five and we go to 1/2 start and what you do
- 6:46there is I'm going to hold you in the half start position where
- 6:51your ankles are basically ankle to ankle.
- 6:55And then when I drop you, you're not just going to fall, You're
- 6:59not just going to fall like you're helpless.
- 7:01You're going to counteract the fall.
- 7:03You're going to push into your pedals and, you know, overcome
- 7:09gravity and push yourself up. And that wasn't great because
- 7:18she kind of fell down a little bit, but that's the idea.
- 7:25So now we're going to put the front toe, the front pedal on
- 7:31the start line. And now for the first time we're
- 7:33coming out of blocks with off, you know, from a four point
- 7:37stance. And it's taken us 5 weeks and
- 7:41notice hands still aren't behind the line.
- 7:44Again, deliberate. The front pedal is on the front
- 7:50line and she only has the front pedal.
- 7:53We're not giving her the back pedal.
- 7:56She hasn't earned both pedals yet, just the front one.
- 8:09Pretty nice acceleration though. OK, so in every stage of
- 8:17learning, always remind the athletes to push into the blocks
- 8:20just as they push into the ground.
- 8:22Keep doing the same aggressive push as you add blocks
- 8:25complexity. So now we're doing the exact
- 8:31same thing we just did, except we add the back pedal.
- 8:34Now she's doing a four point stance from blocks with both
- 8:37pedals. Hands are not behind the line.
- 8:41And let me just add Snowson Coach Dab's presentation.
- 8:49Every set he sees. He isolated on a few set
- 8:52positions before he clicked the videos In the set positions of
- 8:55Aldrich and OF Gonzalez, they were perfect.
- 8:59They were righteous. Like a set position looks a
- 9:02particular way. This is a really nice set
- 9:05position. Her shins are parallel, her
- 9:07shoulders are over her hands, her front knee is flexed at 90.
- 9:11Like if that's not present, there's nothing you can do with
- 9:15it. It has to look like that.
- 9:16And everyone who's in a good set position, they all look the
- 9:19same. So there's a universality to the
- 9:22proper set position that you have to achieve.
- 9:25So make sure you know what that is.
- 9:27If we have a little time leftover at the end, I have a
- 9:30fun little exercise to go through if we have time here.
- 9:34So now she's coming from both pedals.
- 9:37It looks really good coming right along.
- 9:42And now, so we're out to Week 6 to 8 and we've kind of earned
- 9:47our way through this progress. And so now we're going to go
- 9:50both pedals and we're going to, you get your hands behind the
- 9:55line and you can now address the start line and get in line up
- 10:00behind the start line because you've kind of moved through
- 10:03this pretty well. And so grossly the front pedal
- 10:09should be two Step 2 pigeon steps from the line and the back
- 10:15pedal should be 3 pigeon steps to the line.
- 10:18And then you sort of fine tune it if you have really small
- 10:22feet, it's two and three. If you have average size feet,
- 10:26it's really like 1 7/8 to 2 7/8. But that's a ballpark figure.
- 10:31You shouldn't have these tiny little block settings like the
- 10:34block settings. They're they're pretty far from
- 10:36the line because you have to nice be big and nice and open to
- 10:40be able to apply force optimally.
- 10:42So the number one problem, I don't know why this is.
- 10:44And if I get into my little exercise after this, you'll see
- 10:47this. Don't know why I go to high
- 10:49school meets and I randomly just let's look at every high school
- 10:52athlete who comes up and does a warm up start and I'm looking at
- 10:55them 9 out of 10 people have their blocks set too short.
- 10:59I don't know why, like occasionally you'll see someone
- 11:02with their blocks set too far, but for some reason everybody
- 11:05crowds the start line and doesn't give themselves enough
- 11:07room. And it's a huge problem in
- 11:09acceleration because if like football players, you're all
- 11:13bunched up in these tiny little positions running your 40 yard
- 11:16dash, you're eviscerating your ability to apply big forces and
- 11:21you're killing your acceleration.
- 11:23You got to have room to get big and violent.
- 11:26And so you better have your blocks set right because if you
- 11:29don't, you're just hurting yourself.
- 11:31So understand how to set blocks. So now we're behind the line
- 11:43finally in a four point stance, both pedals.
- 11:56Now let me just Add all of these.
- 11:58You saw where she had her spikes on.
- 12:03OK, It doesn't matter. If you're doing this in flat,
- 12:07that's fine because you can have great accelerations and high
- 12:11intensity accelerations in your flat.
- 12:14What matters is the intentionality, the awareness,
- 12:18the posture and the force application.
- 12:20That's what matters. You can do it in the grass, but
- 12:24they should all look like this. It's not the shoes that makes
- 12:27the Rep, it's the athlete that makes the Rep with their
- 12:30intentionality and their understanding of what they're
- 12:33trying to do. They're trying to push as hard
- 12:36as they can, not as hard as they're used to.
- 12:38They're trying to find new levels of effort through this
- 12:43pushing process. Oh, now one thing that you'll
- 12:52see, this is just good sound bio mechanics.
- 12:58Your acute chin angle and acute torso angle at touchdown are
- 13:03characteristic of acceleration. What does that mean?
- 13:07That means that all the way through the acceleration
- 13:09process. The relationship of this torso
- 13:23to this support support shin remains together all the way up
- 13:28the track. Wherever you are in the
- 13:30acceleration process, the angle of the torso and the angle of
- 13:35the striking shin are the same. So if I'm at this body angle, my
- 13:41striking shin is at that angle. If my body angle is here, my
- 13:45striking shin is there. Those are absolutely acute and
- 13:48aligned all the way up the track.
- 13:49That's characteristic of sound bio mechanics and every great
- 13:53sprinter in the world lines up that way.
- 14:02So that was kind of it. I appreciate it.
- 14:08Any questions? Sure.
- 14:14Now this was totally unscripted, but boy was it educational.
- 14:23Not surprising because everywhere I go I see the same
- 14:25thing. Sorry.
- 14:37OK, yes or no? Marginally, no.
- 14:47She's a little close, but it's not terrible.
- 14:55Yes or no, That's a yes. He's look, here's his foot one
- 15:05his front foots 2 feet from his. He's he's fine proportion his
- 15:11his toe, his his back ankle is his front ankle is too open, but
- 15:16his back foot's fine. So he he's OK and his foot
- 15:19notice his toe here is basically at his heel.
- 15:24So he's OK, It's fine. That's a that's a negative.
- 15:34Now. There was no scripting.
- 15:35I just simply next person up. I just what you're doing at the
- 15:39high school, the next person up, I'm just take Nope, no
- 15:44editorializing. I'm just taking the pic.
- 15:46This is what we get. This is what it is and it's no
- 15:49different in Florida than it is, or I could go to, you name your
- 15:55place, I can go to Canada. It's going to be the same thing
- 15:57because people don't know how to start.
- 15:59They don't, they're not taught. People, coaches think, well,
- 16:02whatever they come to me with like I'm good, I'm rolling with
- 16:05that. And you can't do that.
- 16:07Like there's a way to start and your people need to start,
- 16:09right? And it's not hard to teach.
- 16:15And you see a lot of this, this guy, here's his foot length.
- 16:20He's 1 1/2 feet from the start line.
- 16:23That is crazy. Not good.
- 16:26He's compromising himself badly. He's way too close.
- 16:31His front knee is open more than 90.
- 16:34Like it's just not good. Way too close.
- 16:42Her, her shin can't even go parallel to the ground.
- 16:48Pass it like she's way too close.
- 16:50There's her foot length. She's about 1 1/2 feet from the
- 16:53line. 1 1/2 of her feet from the line.
- 16:59Not going to work. Yeah, there's her foot length.
- 17:08She's 1 foot from the her front pedal is 1 foot from the start
- 17:12line. That's why she looks like that.
- 17:16I don't know Why is everybody so close?
- 17:18Like why don't we make it? Why are we airing away from the
- 17:21line? No.
- 17:21Well, we're going to get bunched up to it like both are wrong.
- 17:25We want to be right, but like, why do we air so close to the
- 17:29line? Good or bad?
- 17:36I mean good, yes or no? He's too close, way too close.
- 17:45He's too close. He's front handed and he's he's
- 17:49about to tip over there. That Porsche.
- 17:57No, that's the world champion 2017 at 400 meters.
- 18:05It's Phyllis Francis. But certain things are present.
- 18:13Good spacing, shins, parallel shoulders over the hands, hips
- 18:18higher than the shoulders, front knee stone cold. 90 degrees. 95
- 18:24is fine too. 90 to 95 is fine. Don't want to be less than that.
- 18:30Don't want to be more than 95, needs to be there.
- 18:39Now, one of the reasons and all these things go together, one of
- 18:42the reasons that she can't have her front knee at 90 is she's
- 18:45too close. She can't, she's so close to the
- 18:48line, she can't even move her knees to the proper flexion.
- 18:54Yes or no? Yes, very nice.
- 18:59And guess what? North Texas guy, U&T right
- 19:04there. See.
- 19:10Well her spacing is fine and her front knee is fine so I think
- 19:15she's a yes. Not bad.
- 19:23That's right. I agree spacing might be OK but
- 19:31he's not he's he's he's over. He's his.
- 19:34His front knee is way more than 95°.
- 19:41Yep I agree. So thank you very much.
- 19:48Any questions? Yes doesn't.
- 19:56OK that's easy to see in your fine tuning.
- 19:58Have them do 2 and 3. Remember, if your feet are
- 20:02small, 2 and 3 is going to work better if you have normal sight.
- 20:05It's really about for people with average feet.
- 20:08It's really about 1 7/8 to 2 7/8.
- 20:11If your feet are really small. Like I coached the world
- 20:14champion, I coached this 100 meters and 100 hurdles for the
- 20:18world champion decathlete in 2003.
- 20:21He was 66, but he had small feet, but he was three and two.
- 20:26So a person of average proportionality will be like 1
- 20:297/8, two and 7/8. But check it out at two and
- 20:32three. Start there and if they're too
- 20:34close, move them back. Do do the fine tuning with your
- 20:38eyes, make them get to the right set height.
- 20:41And if they're too brunch, move them back.
- 20:45So 2 to 3 is a good gross, quick, fast way to ballpark it
- 20:50because as you saw in this film, most people aren't even close.
- 20:55Like they're not even in sniffing range.
- 20:58So just by getting them in the ballpark, you enormously help
- 21:02your people. And then there's always a little
- 21:04fine tuning can be done to get it precisely correct.
- 21:08Yes, next first. Yes, ma'am.
- 21:10How do you introduce antique accelerators?
- 21:16Oh, so just first you don't worry about it.
- 21:19You, you teach them like sprinters first.
- 21:21And then when you have some stability and some
- 21:23understanding, then you tell them to drive.
- 21:29Is it a person who takes 8 steps?
- 21:32OK, drive exactly as they do in the 100.
- 21:37For the first four steps, there's no difference.
- 21:40And then cut down. So but you have to start and get
- 21:44a vocabulary and a movement sequence kind of established for
- 21:48the flat 100. Then you introduce it into the
- 21:52hurdle concept. Always do it in that order.
- 21:54Don't teach them as 100 hurdle approach and then do it the
- 21:59other way. Go the 100 meter approach and
- 22:01then the 100 hurdle approach. Anything else?
- 22:03Yes Sir, yes I think that's great and most this is what I
- 22:16have found are all athletes of equal coordinated ability?
- 22:20No, but a person of average coordinated ability can push
- 22:25into both pedals. If you have a kid who is not
- 22:29motor aware who is has very poor kinesthetic skills, you might
- 22:35have to remediate them by allowing them first to push off
- 22:38the front pedal and you can. Here's what you see a lot of and
- 22:41it's a huge problem, particularly when blocks aren't
- 22:44present. And you see it a lot in
- 22:46football, which just drives me just bat shit crazy is you
- 22:51cannot accelerate off your back foot.
- 22:56OK, you can accelerate off your front foot or you can accelerate
- 23:00off of both feet, but you can never push off your back foot.
- 23:04It's a problem that is rampant. So if you see them accelerating
- 23:09off the back foot, that's a huge problem.
- 23:11So make sure it's one or the other.
- 23:19Yes, Yes Sir. And again, if it's a person who
- 23:23doesn't move very well, just then ask them to maybe push off
- 23:26their front pedal until they kind of get comfortable and then
- 23:29sometime down the line when they're more stable say OK now
- 23:33just give it a try pushing off both feet now but they've
- 23:36already stabilized kind of off the front foot.
- 23:39I try to get stability first before I ask for more
- 23:42complexity. Also, do you have any training
- 23:45advices for athlete shooting his hips through all that horizontal
- 23:50plane after blocks? Yes, I think just push longer
- 23:56into his pedals. People who have whose hips go
- 24:00too horizontally, they're like, OK, they're exactly the same
- 24:04people who in the weight room won't get to the top of a power
- 24:08clean. This isn't the top of a power
- 24:10clean. That is, they're not extending
- 24:13fully. If they extend fully, their hips
- 24:16will go in the right direction. They're prematurely stopping
- 24:19their upward Dr. and push to gain quickness, destroying their
- 24:25posture and never getting in an upright position, so they have
- 24:30to push into the pedals longer. To those people, it feels like
- 24:35they're standing up and that's OK.
- 24:40Let's take the last question here and then we'll move into
- 24:42our coaches panel. Yes.
- 24:43Yep. How do you go about?
- 24:45Queuing pre thinks in the block for developmental athletes.
- 24:50Well, for OK, great question. You should inhale yourself to
- 24:54set and you're doing a Valsalva maneuver.
- 24:56So two things, two aspects when we're running this direction,
- 25:12OK, what a lot of athletes do set, they front load, all the
- 25:20weight goes on to their hands. OK, a few athletes set,
- 25:26everything goes to their back feet.
- 25:29OK, this is how set is set. Your back feet load into the
- 25:37pedals hard and as your shoulders stay over your hands.
- 25:43So you're you're not unbalancing, you're you're
- 25:46balancing yourself by being loaded in both directions and
- 25:50you're pretensed like you're ready to play, like you're
- 25:53pretensed ready to go anticipating your movements,
- 25:59which is to push into the pedal. So another way to say that is
- 26:02don't anticipate the gun. You you kill yourself by saying,
- 26:07and this is very important. When I hear the gun, I'm going
- 26:11to push with both feet into the pedals.
- 26:14That's different than being in the set going.
- 26:17The guns are going to shoot now. It's going to shoot now because
- 26:19then you're only guessing and you're losing anyway.
- 26:22So anticipate your movements and balance yourself as you load.
- 26:29Let's. Give it up for Vince Anderson
- 26:32guys. Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here.
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