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How to Be Real with God in Your Prayers · The Curt Landry Podcast

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Well, hey everyone, you're listening to the Curt Landry podcast where we're going to help
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you discover your kingdom destiny.
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My name is Darrell and sitting right beside me is Rabbi Curt Landry himself.
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And in this episode, we're going to be discussing the topic of prayer.
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We'll also provide techniques to help enhance your prayer time.
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But before we jump into this episode, Rabbi, have you been playing in the snow?
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Oklahoma has been super, super cold.
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Well, listen, it's going great.
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I'm really excited about this podcast.
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I got to tell you, I'm hoping and I'm praying that it blesses the people, blesses you.
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But what it's doing to me, it's actually opening up almost like a portal of refreshing
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in my heart.
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Because what's happening is, is I'm going back in past testimonies when you ask questions.
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And so the faithfulness of God, it's like I get to testify to my own self that the Lord
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has been very faithful.
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We're facing some really challenging times that are ahead of us.
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And so what it's doing for me personally is it's building my faith, my own faith walk
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and by sharing.
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You know, Revelation says that they overcame him, Satan, by the blood of the Lamb and the
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word of their testimony.
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So I'm hoping and we'll see.
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In fact, if you want to respond and let us know if you have any questions, but I'd love
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to dive into any of your questions.
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But let us know how it's affecting you.
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For me, it's creating a very positive faith environment and atmosphere in my soul.
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I love this.
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Of course, we always ask you to put into the title and write something to the subject line
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so we know what it's about and what's your thoughts and concerns, questions, anything
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that you want Rabbi Kurt to discuss on this show.
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So Rabbi, it's been a little bit since we've launched the podcast on the official day.
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How do you feel like the success of it?
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Or you know, I mean, like, are you pleased with it up to this point?
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Oh, yeah.
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In fact, I'm more than happy with it.
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You know, a lot of times, you know, I like to cook and I like to, you know, a big part
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of meals is presentation.
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So when you prepare a meal and a table, it's not just like for one of the things I love
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to do in the holidays is I'll do a whole turkey.
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And it's great to have the turkey and it's and the way I do it, it's, you know, injected
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with Irish butter and really good.
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But the key is, is how does it set up on the plate?
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So you know, you have the you have the stuffing, you have some vegetables, you know, you have
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cranberry sauce, you have you have the gravy and all those different things.
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So depending on how you present it is versus just cutting off a piece of turkey, putting
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on a paper plate and say here, it's the same meat you're eating.
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But when the when the meat is surrounded by all these other, you know, say condiments
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and things, then what happens is it actually enhances the flavor of the meat itself.
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So I look at this podcast as really, you know, I do live streaming, I, you know, we publish
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books, we do blogs, we do a lot of different things.
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But I feel like this podcast is kind of the gravy.
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What it does is it just adds to what is already good, but it takes everything into a more
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personal level.
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And it allows people listen, I'm really big on this is because I always say, show me your
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friends, and I'll show you your future.
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But I can also say to this, show me who you're following.
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And I'll show you your future.
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Just like I like to say, you know, show me what you're reading, and I can tell how fast
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you're getting to the future.
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So you've got to have good networking, you have to have you have to have really good
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input coming into your life in order to have a higher quality of life.
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So I think this podcast is the gravy of CLM's media plate of food that we serve to the world.
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So this podcast, I guess we backtrack and kind of walk people into if they're not aware
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and you know, they're listening to the Curt Landry podcast, and they want more right like
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a more shows to listen to something else.
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Well, the one new man network.
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So the Curt Landry podcast, you're listening, you can see it.
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This podcast is on the charisma podcast network.
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But Rabbi something was really cool in the same breath of transitioning into 2024.
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We actually launched the one new man network with our first podcast.
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And that's got Megan Marcelino with generations at the table.
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What do you think?
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You know, just from maybe not an excitement level, but from like expectations wise, I
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mean, like 24 was coming in, we had like a lot of moving different parts.
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But you know, like where you at with maybe, I guess the one new man network.
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And then it's funny because Megan's actually got the first show that launched on it.
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It wasn't actually your show.
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For me personally, yeah, to have our daughter.
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I'm all about legacy.
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I am in the passing the baton stage of my life.
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It's my biggest joy.
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So no, I'm overwhelmingly happy with it.
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You know, today in the studio, she was in on her podcast, she was interviewing her mother.
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And so one of the things that people need to understand, and she was interviewing her,
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I believe I wasn't here, but I think she was talking to her about prayer now.
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And she was giving her testimony.
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So you know, Christie was saved two and a half years before I got saved.
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And the Lord told her, don't preach to him.
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And praise God she didn't because listen, before I got saved, I was so anti Christian.
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I mean, I was like Saul, I stoned him, I couldn't stand him.
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I mean, it was terrible.
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But praise God, Jesus came in.
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That's probably why Jesus came literally into the bathtub because, you know, I was definitely
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a Christian hater, not just dislike her.
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I mean, I used to do imitations and made fun of him.
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I used to imitate Jan Crouch on TVN.
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No, I'm serious.
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I did all this stuff like this.
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Now, here's the other side of the story.
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I don't want to drift too much.
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But the first time I went on TVN, the first thing I had to do is go to the Crouches and
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repent and I asked him for forgiveness.
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I said, listen, I made fun of you, your hair and your big furniture.
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And you've done so much good.
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And listen, I was crying and they forgave me.
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They laughed.
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They loved me.
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It's not, it's, listen, but that's where I was at.
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But the thing is, so Megan interviews her mom, right?
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And to say, well, how do you pray for somebody like that?
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I mean, I was so arrogant and worldly and I mean, it was terrible.
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Listen, I can tell you that in my family, I was the least likely to get saved.
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So she interviews Christy and Christy talks about how she prayed, didn't preach, but prayed
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me into the kingdom.
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That podcast is priceless.
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I can, I didn't hear it, but I do know the story.
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And so as far as I'm concerned, listen, and I have, I even said this in Israel to the
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soldiers.
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I shared this testimony about her.
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I said, you realize we wouldn't be standing here bringing you all this humanitarian aid
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and support all these years if it wasn't for this Nana right here, because she's the one
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that prayed me into the kingdom.
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And I mean, you could have heard a pin drop.
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The soldiers are like, oh my gosh.
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And then when we got done speaking to them and stuff, they all came up and we're hugging
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her and she was hugging them.
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And so yeah, it's, it's the podcast.
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That's a plot.
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You can't preach that.
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You can't get on a platform on a Friday night and do that.
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You need this.
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And so I'm, I'm thrilled.
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And the other thing is, of course, listen, what Megan carries in the call, she carries,
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she carries a lot of what we carry.
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She was raised in this.
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When we did Aliyah, the first return in the early nineties, when we were doing the airplanes,
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the 747s.
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And so all the apostolic leadership from Europe, from Germany, from Sweden, from Israel, all
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those people, when that was those prayer meetings, those, those were in our house in Issaquah.
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Those meetings took place in our home.
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And so I can still see it.
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Here's all these apostolic leaders.
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We're talking about fulfilling Isaiah 60 and there's Megan and she's laying down.
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She's in the family room where we had the meetings, all the chairs set up.
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And she's over there, you know, five years old with a coloring book, coloring why we're
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sitting there discussing spiritual strategies, proclaiming and praying and doing all the
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stuff we do.
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And here's this five year old because listen, we only had one child.
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We didn't have, we couldn't let people really know the meetings going on.
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So I can't have a babysitter in the house.
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I can't hear it.
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So she, she was just raised in it.
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And the thing that, that, you know, she talks about is that she learned so much just being
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a fly on the wall.
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And it's great.
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And so when we do stuff now, like with our grandkids, I include them.
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It's one of the things, it's one of the, I love, I love people bringing their children,
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even if they cry or are noisy into House of David service.
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First of all, it does not affect me.
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It doesn't like, Oh, they're crying.
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Oh, they scream on it.
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Listen, I'm glad to have them in the house because I understand the power of the impartation.
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The other thing is people think like children, Oh, they're just little children.
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They don't understand.
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Let me tell you something.
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They understand.
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Listen, when, when Joseph and, and Bella, but when Joseph was like two, two, three years
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old, he would, he would quote me from what I said in a service phrases.
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So they're listening.
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And, and the thing is, even if they're not listening at Matthew's age, he's only a year
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and a half, I want them in the service because what's happening is the word is seed is going
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in their heart.
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So I, I'm, I'm big on that.
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And that's a long way to answer your question, but no, I'm thrilled that Megan's podcast
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is going first.
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Yep.
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And you can find that just search.
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If you're listening on Spotify, you're listening on Apple podcasts, or if you're over on curtlandry.com
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forward slash podcast, just search generations at the table with Megan Marcelino.
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Just wherever you listen to podcasts, you can find that one.
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So rabbi really good story about Ms. Christie and kind of praying you into it for what the
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topic of this podcast is about.
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And it's just pretty simple.
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It's a base level.
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One thing I love that we do on the show, it's like one or two, maybe three things that people
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can go activate and physically do to kind of start these different attributes or things
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that they want to accomplish.
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You know, we've been talking a lot about goals to grow like tons of it.
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And this is a big one for everyone.
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And I think everybody's always looking for different techniques and something just to
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kind of keep it consistent.
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But very simply put in the question, how do we pray?
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Or how to pray?
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I mean, like, what's the most efficient way that people listening can start or get better
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at it?
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Okay.
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First of all, many of you that follow us, or you've heard the term from me or Robert
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Henderson or different ones called the courts of heaven.
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And believe me, when we first started using that terminology, I mean, it flipped people
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like, oh, the courts of heaven.
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And how do we do the courts of heaven?
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You know, it's like, oh, I'm not praying right.
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I've been praying for 35 years and now I find out I actually didn't pray at all.
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I wasted like 35 years.
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What's happening?
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Yeah.
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And I'm going, no, you were in the courts of heaven.
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It's just like a term to help you logistically in the spirit see something different.
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So listen, the disciples had the same thing.
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If you go on Matthew chapter six, verse nine, they asked Jesus, they said, listen, how do
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we pray?
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So I'm just going to, I'm going to go real quickly just down the list here.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Is that right?
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Our father in heaven.
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So your heaven, your father is in the courts of heaven.
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Okay.
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So, so, so if you're, if you're saying this prayer, listen, I was raised Catholic and,
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and I prayed this prayer a lot because when you go into the confessional, you know, uh,
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we'd always have to, once a week we would go in there and get the confessional and you
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confess your sins and the way they do it is like, okay, you say five Hail Marys and six
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our fathers and, and 23 acts of contrition.
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Well, mine was, you know, I was kind of, uh, an active sinner.
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So, and, uh, uh, so anyway, I, I know our father who art in heaven.
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Okay. I've prayed it about 4 billion 742 times before I was 12.
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But anyway, uh, the point is, is that when you pray this prayer, our father, he is in
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heaven.
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Okay.
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That's the first thing.
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And the other word I want you to focus on is father, because when you go into the courts
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of heaven, you go into the mercy courts.
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He is just judge heavenly father.
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So father is a relationship.
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So you're going to your father, you're not going to somebody unjust.
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And then you're saying yet, even though you're my father, ABBA, my daddy, but hollowed be
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thy name.
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So the, in two lines of the prayer, you're saying you're the father.
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Yes, I'm, I'm your child.
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I love you.
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But at the same time, I'm Halloween, which means make holy or in Hebrew, Kaddosh your
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name.
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Then I immediately state what I want.
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I want the result right up.
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I love this.
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Your kingdom come.
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There will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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So what is written in heaven, I want done on earth.
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What earth?
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Well, you are the temples of the most high God, your body.
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What is like, I always refer to a good friend of mine, David Dryling went on to be with
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the Lord.
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Um, he used to always, uh, when he would teach biblically, he'd always say, you're just
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dusties because we're created from the dust of the earth.
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And uh, so what happens is you want what is written in God's kingdom done from heaven
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and you want it on earth.
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So right away you're going, if you think about the prayer, you're saying daddy in heaven,
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I'm, I'm, I'm keeping holy your name.
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I understand that all power and authority and all creativity of everything in the universe
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comes from you.
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But what I need is I need what's written in your books and your desire for me.
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I needed in my life now.
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And then you say, give us this day our daily bread.
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Well, it's not talking about foot, just food.
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What it is is bread.
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Give us this day, all substance, body, soul and spirit so that I can be healthy.
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That's what that bread, that's what that means.
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So then, so you ask for it.
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And then what happens is you go into protocol to create an atmosphere so it survives.
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You know, I used to, when I was younger, I had fish tanks, you know, sometimes I had
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five and six tanks and so if you think about, you just prayed, right?
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And what you've done and you go to your Lord in heaven and you say, okay, here's your fish.
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You know, they put it, they take some water out of the tank that the fish came out of,
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put it in a plastic bag, put some oxygen in it, seal it.
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And then here you are walking with the fish.
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So then they tell you, well, what happens is when you get that fish home, you put the
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whole plastic bag in the water into the tank, let it adjust so that there's no temperature
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shock and then you release the fish in it.
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But what happens is the tank you release it into has to have a healthy pH and it has to
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be a conducive atmosphere for that fish, whatever one that you brought home to survive, like
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what other fish are in the tank, what kind of plants, et cetera.
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Well, it's the same thing with prayer.
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You go into prayer and you say, okay, Lord, you're my father.
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I hollow your name.
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I want what you have in heaven and I want it to operate in my earthly, let's say earth
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suit and in my life.
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I want blessings to prosper me.
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And the Lord says, fine, but when you take the blessing home into your fish tank, you
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need to first of all, clean the tank.
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You need to say, and forgive us our debt as we forgive our debtors and lead us not into
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temptation but deliver us from the evil one for yours is the kingdom power and the glory
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forever.
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Amen.
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So what he's saying is if I give you the fish, don't put it into a heart of sin.
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If I give you the fish, don't take it into a cold tank.
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Don't put it into an overly heated tank with algae.
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No, it's got to have the right pH.
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If you do, then the fish will actually prosper and multiply.
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Same thing with, same thing with prayer.
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Whatever you pray, you have to understand, forgive debt.
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So it's basically forgive yourself, forgive God, forgive others.
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Don't allow offense, sin and debt into your tank around your seed of your sin.
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And then your sin will, your, your, sorry, your prayer requests will prosper.
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That's about as basic as I can give it to you.
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And we'll be right back.
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Okay, so all right, so you just broke it down basic.
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I think that was pretty deep.
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All right.
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Now, see, that's the problem for me that was like, well, this is how it works.
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I know, I know.
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And like, I think that's why this podcast is going to add some different levels of value
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because there's going to be a lot of people that are listening that they're tracking with
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you.
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Okay?
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I'm thinking about the people that maybe just became Christians and they're just now trying
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to get comfortable doing this thing called praying, right?
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So if you're talking to someone that is a, you know, think either first month or like
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first year believer and like you're trying to help them how to figure this out, what
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instruction would you actually give them?
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Okay, so that they know that I can relate.
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So I shared with you about with the Aliyah, okay?
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I got saved in 89.
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This was like a 90.
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And the leaders that are there are serious, the highest level apostolic leaders in the
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world at this time.
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Okay?
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And they're in my house and I'm saved like six months.
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And you know, and I can remember the first time they came in the house, they're all there.
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They all have their different accents.
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One's German, one's Swedish, one's this.
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Everyone said, I wonder who it is.
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Listen, I'm not going to tell you.
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So just get over it.
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I'm just saying, just everyone would know who they are.
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So please don't send those questions to podcasts at CurlEdger.com.
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No, it doesn't matter.
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The point is you have all these like, you know, generals for real in the Lord.
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They've written tons of books and stuff.
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And then here's this idiot that's been saved six months, you know, that's coming out of
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the world, which is me.
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And I'm answering your question to set it up because then what they say is they say
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to me, well, Kurt, this is your home.
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You will start us off in prayer.
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And I'm going like, okay, I'll pray in just a minute after I throw up.
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You know, it's like, are you kidding me?
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I'm here with like all these people that have written books on spiritual warfare and prayer
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and all this, and they're wanting me to pray.
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And the other thing, here's the thing is I'm brand new to the Lord.
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I don't know how to pray.
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I don't even know.
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But it didn't matter because what was happening is God made me the gatekeeper in that house.
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It was my home.
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So they wanted me to bless them.
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And that's what I did.
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So here's the thing about prayer.
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If you've never prayed before, it's basic.
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Okay, let's say you need something.
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Let's say you're sick, okay?
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And you need to get healing, okay?
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And you're brand new to the Lord.
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All you have to do is go, Father God, in Jesus' name, I'm sick.
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And I know you know that, but I really need a touch.
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What you're doing, now you're asking, I need you to heal me.
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And it'd be great if you quoted, buy a stripe, you're healed, but you don't have to even
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do that.
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All you have to do is say, listen, I need a touch.
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I'm sick.
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I need your help.
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Would you please heal and touch my body in Jesus' name?
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That's it.
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That's all you have to do.
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Because what happens is the Lord is weighing out the heart.
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The Lord is also measuring each word relationally, no different than the way I interact with
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Matthew at a year and a half, even the way I interact with the eight-year-old with Bella.
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The conversations are very different.
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And if I'm talking to you, the conversations are different.
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So give yourself some grace when you pray.
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If I could say one thing, it's conversation.
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First of all, He already knows what you need.
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He knows what you want.
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He knows everything.
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He's omnipotent.
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That's what that means.
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But the key is, don't try to imitate other people's prayer.
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And if you go into real big prayer meetings, you'll see it.
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You'll see the culture.
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You've been around it.
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And if you're in one culture, and listen, I so want to do my imitation of one, but then
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that would be disrespectful.
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But it's very funny.
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You're going to miss out on it.
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I won't do it.
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But what happens is every culture has their prayer, the way they pray.
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It's like, oh, God.
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You're doing it.
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You can just keep going.
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No, no, I don't want to keep going.
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I don't want to keep going.
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Keep going.
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You're starting.
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No.
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It's like, listen, you don't.
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It's not like you have to have the holy voice, and then God goes, oh, my gosh, it's the holy
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voice.
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I better answer this one.
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That's not how this works.
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So you just really just need to talk to them.
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You just need...
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I'll tell you when the first time I got my prayer answered.
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You want me to share that?
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Yeah.
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First prayer ever I know answered.
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Okay.
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I was in fifth grade.
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I went to St. Jerome's Catholic Church, very strict.
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Did you go to Catholic boy school too?
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No, no, it was boys and girls.
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But it was in Los Angeles, and I was blessed.
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It was one of the highest curriculum schools in 904.5.
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It's actually in Los Angeles.
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And literally, everybody that...
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People sent their kids there.
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Even non-Catholics went.
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It was very high tuition at the time, and it's even worse now.
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But anyway, it was a very good school, but it was run by the priest and the nuns, and
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it was very strict.
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I mean, the whole thing, the paddling, the rulers on the knuckles, the whole thing.
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Listen, I'm thankful for it now, but when I was going through it, it was kind of difficult.
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But what my father that raised me, Ray Landry, my dad, what he did was he said, listen, you
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get a report card and you're gonna have a grade anywhere from an A plus down to an F,
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and then off to the side, it had effort.
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And the way Ray did it, I wouldn't do it this way, but what he did was, listen, the effort
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side of it is your score on the effort.
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If you apply yourself and you get a D, I don't care.
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But if you don't apply yourself and you even get a B and you should have got an A, you're
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gonna get it.
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And my parents were strict as well.
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So this was going down.
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I was in fifth grade and I got my first F, and it was F-U-U.
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So it was unsatisfactory.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And we're not going there.
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So I got, so that was it.
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So anyway, I come home from school, right?
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School gets out at three o'clock.
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By the time I walk home, I'm at my house.
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I go into my bedroom, I lay on the bed.
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Okay, here we go.
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I can't help it.
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I didn't make it.
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I'm just gonna reset here for a second.
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Listen, I wasn't the one that did the report card.
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That's what they gave you.
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So anyway, it was-
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I'm just gonna move my mic.
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Just keep going.
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Yeah, just keep moving.
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You see.
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So here's the key.
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I know I'm gonna get it.
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I mean, I'm getting the belt.
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I mean, I've lost it, right?
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Not only did I fail at this subject, I don't even remember what it was.
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Doesn't matter.
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But I was unsatisfactory.
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Okay.
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And so I didn't even put effort to it.
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So I knew I was gonna get it.
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So anyway, so I get home about 3.30.
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I literally am laying on the bed in my room.
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I can see myself, and I'm travailing crying.
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I'm just crying.
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And I'm crying out to God.
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Listen, I'm not saved, but I'm crying out to God.
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Don't let him kill me.
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I'm screaming it out.
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So anyway, well, my dad always got home at five o'clock.
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That was the promise.
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Five o'clock every day was it.
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And so of course he comes home and my mom's there.
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And she says, well, Curtis got his report card.
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Everyone knows it's report card day.
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You're coming home.
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Of course, there's my sister.
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She gets her report card.
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She was all A's.
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Just extraordinary.
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So she's over there just like that.
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And here's poor Curtis with the first F in the family.
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And so now here we go.
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So my dad came in, and I'm in there, and I'm a wreck.
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I've been crying.
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And I cried out to God and prayed.
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He comes in.
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He said, well, Curtis, your mom told me what happened, that you got an F and it was unsatisfactory,
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no effort.
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And he says, and you know, I told you about the F. You know our agreement.
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But he says, I'm not going to spank you.
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And he says, the reason I'm not going to spank you is because it's quite apparent by looking
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at you that you're not ever going to do this again.
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So what you've been through this afternoon, I think is enough.
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And what he said, he goes, and the main thing that I want you to do is I want you to understand
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that when I ask you to do something that you do it, and you don't have to do it because
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of a spanking, I think by what you've done that you're sorry, and it won't happen again.
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And I said, yes, sir, it won't happen again.
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So that was my very first prayer that was answered.
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And I also want to tell you, it never happened again.
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So that was my little experiment.
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I was thinking about asking.
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Yeah, no, it didn't happen again.
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But my point is that my prayer was answered from my Heavenly Father and my Earthly Father,
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Master Marine Sergeant, two landings, Guadalcanal, Golden Gull Boxer.
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This is a tough guy.
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He was very tender with that moment.
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And I'll share one other.
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Can I share another testimony about my dad?
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And this is with prayer.
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So years later, my dad, he has a heart attack.
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And we lived in Seattle.
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We lived in Oregon.
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And so they call us, your dad's in the hospital, we drive down.
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And so we come, Megan's little, we've got the big balloon, get well and all this stuff.
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We come in and Christy's there and Ray's in there.
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And at that time, he's with his, this would be his second wife because my mother died.
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And so they're in there.
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And he's in there, he says, listen, he asked everybody, they visited for about five or
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10 minutes, that was it.
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And he asked all the girls, he said, would you guys leave?
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He said, I just need to spend a little bit of time with Curtis, with my son.
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Can I do that?
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He says, yeah.
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And everyone said, yeah.
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And it was kind of weird.
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He's not like that.
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It was weird.
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So anyway, I'm sitting there and our relationship is not real close.
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He never told me he loved me, even to the day he died.
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But because of coming out of World War II and who he was, that culture didn't do that.
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But I knew he loved me.
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I knew he loved me because of the way his actions.
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So meanwhile, he's not saved at this time.
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He got saved later.
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But I'm a Jesus freak and he's around me and he's always hearing about, well, Curtis went
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and prayed for this one and there was a miracle.
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At the time, his fiancees had a granddaughter that was born and she was in Children's Hospital
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in Portland, Oregon, and she was going to die.
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And they asked us to come down and we took her and she's hooked up to all these machines
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and stuff.
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And I still asked, I asked, I said, can I hold her?
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And everyone was going, I'm not sure about that.
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And they said, OK, anyway, they let me hold her.
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I hold her and I prayed for and the Lord healed her.
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So he knows this.
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He knows that I'm carrying this gift.
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So here's this wacko son that was this.
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And now he's the Jesus freak with the healing anointing.
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And so he got everybody out and he said to me, he said, listen, he goes, he goes, I'm
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afraid to die.
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I don't want to die.
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And he says, and I'm so tired and I need to sleep.
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And he says, and you have so much faith.
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And he says, you know, he says, Curtis, I don't know where you get it.
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He says, you didn't get it from me.
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I mean, we weren't we weren't religious, even though I went to Catholic school.
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We were not a religious family.
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And he says, I don't know where you get it.
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He says, you didn't get it for me.
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And I said, no, yes, I did get it from you.
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He said, no, he says, I'm not religious.
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And I said, when you said you were going to bless me, you always bless me.
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When you said we're getting a new swing set, we got the swing set.
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When you said we're putting in a swimming pool, you put in the swimming pool.
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When you said that we're going to Disneyland, we went to Disneyland.
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When you said you would spank me if I did this, you spank me.
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So what happens is you were absolutely consistent.
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And I realize now that as a Christian, having that consistency in the parenting was crucial
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when I made the transition from trying to trust in the flesh to trusting in the Spirit,
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somebody I can't see.
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So I said, really, the reason I can trust Heavenly Father, my God, through Jesus, is
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because of your consistency, it laid a good foundation for me to trust in my Father.
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And he just said, wow.
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He said, listen, I'm so tired, I need to sleep.
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He said, and he's not lying.
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Man, this is a man's man, you know.
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And he took his bear claw-sized hand, you know.
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This is a square jaw, thick neck Marine.
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Put his hand in my hand.
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And he said, would you hold my hand so I could go to sleep?
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Because he says, if I know you're here, I'll be able to sleep.
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So I'm holding his hand.
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He goes to sleep.
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And I didn't want to scare him, but I told the Lord, I said, Father God.
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So this is a prayer thing.
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This is my prayer.
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Father God, I need a favor.
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I need a favor.
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This man wasn't responsible for me.
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He came into an orphanage, took responsibility, and raised me.
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Didn't have to do it.
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He protected, took care of me, fed me, housed me.
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He did everything for me.
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And now he needs not only to sleep, but I said, would you heal him?
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Because I said, Father, and this is the prayer.
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If you heal him, he'll know you're real and he'll come to you and then we'll be in heaven
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together when he does die.
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That was my prayer, in Jesus' name.
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So he falls asleep.
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I put his hand back over on his tummy and I slip out of the room.
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That night, he has another heart attack.
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And the heart attack he has is in the medical records.
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It's called a mother nature bypass.
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So what happens is the heart attack actually blast open where the blockage was.
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The next day he left the hospital, he was totally healed.
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That's pretty wild.
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And then he got saved.
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And he was saved for probably about six or seven years.
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And then the favorite thing that he liked to do was to go to Denny's.
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He was a very simple man.
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He used to always say to me, Curtis, I don't get it because I'm a foodie.
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He said, Curtis, you love to eat and I eat to live.
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But his favorite meal was to go to Denny's and get a Grand Slam breakfast.
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So one morning he went to breakfast and eaten at Denny's and was having his favorite meal
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at his favorite Denny's right there near his house in Salem, Oregon.
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And he quietly passed away right there in the restaurant.
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And I had the honor and the privilege of doing his funeral and being able to tell the family
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that he was saved.
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His name was in the book and we'll all see him again.
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So the whole story of it was a blessing because the Lord told me, he said years ago to Christy
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and I, when we went into full-time ministry doing all the crazy stuff with Israel, which
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believe me, I can't tell you the pressure of it.
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But did you ever tell him about that moment in that prayer in Oregon at the hospital?
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Did I ever talk to him about it?
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No.
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No, I didn't.
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He knew.
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He was a very, very private man and a very, very humble man.
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He was really a war hero with what he did in World War II.
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But he was one of the ones that never talked about it.
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So he talked about it toward the end of his life, what happened in the war, and that helped
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me to understand him a little better.
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But here's the key is that all this stuff about prayer, you just need to ask the Lord.
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So I'm in fifth grade, I cry out to God, he answers my prayer.
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I don't know what age I was when I prayed with my dad.
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It was probably 50-ish, 40, 50, and he healed them.
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And I could go through and I prayed for his fiance's granddaughter.
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And it was really different because the Lord said, I want you to hold her and take her
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out of the room you're in and just pray for her.
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And I did.
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And the Lord miraculously healed her.
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So all these things are people know this in the family.
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So what happened is when Christi and I said, we're going to make a commitment to Holy
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Follow after you and do this whole Israel thing.
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Now, this is in the 90s.
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This is, listen, it's not like now where it's kind of fashionable to stand with Israel.
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I mean, we were called everything under the sun.
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But the Lord said, if you take care of my work, I'll take care of all of yours.
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Meaning that with Christi's prayer, the first person that got saved was me.
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And our whole family is not saved.
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And our whole family also is self-employed, entrepreneurial people, most of them pretty
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well off, but yet good people, good, nice people.
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And those are the hardest people to lead to the Lord because Christi's dad is like, okay,
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I'm charitable.
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I take care of other people.
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I'm nice.
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That should be good enough.
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If God doesn't want a nice person, then he doesn't want me.
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I'll just go to hell, that kind of crazy talk.
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In our family, Christi's mom and dad, my adoptive and biological parents all came to the Lord.
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All the cousins, everyone.
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And now Christi and I are the, we're the patriarchs now.
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We're the last here, but the Lord saved everyone.
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And so I really think it was because of Christi's prayer.
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And I think our obedience to answer the call.
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And so sometimes you just have to pray, Lord, give me strength that as I start to walk out
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in the Lord, you know, and everybody's family.
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When you get radically saved, I mean, where you and Morgan came from out of that background
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into this, you've got to be able to have the strength to trust that they're going to misunderstand.
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Where I get my strength for the compassion for it is I remember the unsaved Kurt who
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was like Saul making fun of the Jan Crouches and the stuff.
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And of course, I'm not that now.
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So what happens is the people who come against you, that's why the scripture says in Romans,
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it says, bless those who curse you because you used to curse people.
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So give them patience before they wake up and pray for that patience so that they can
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until they come into the light.
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Man, that's good stuff, Rabbi.
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Rabbi, as we get ready to wrap up this episode, one big thing I really picked away that you
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gave me this super deep complex courts of heaven and you gave it to me strong and then
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you gave it to me super simple for other people that are definitely going to be in different
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walks of their faith that need practical and relational experience.
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But I think the big thing that I took away from it is that the simplicity of prayer is
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a relational thing.
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It's a relationship and it's much like salvation.
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I just kept hearing notes of relationship, relational.
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Because even when you're little and you're trying to get out of, I guess getting your
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butt whooped and really getting in trouble, and then your progression as you got older,
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and then you met Miss Christy and then you're at the hospital in Oregon and now you're sitting
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here.
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It's a progression of the relational side, the relationship with the Father that I'm
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really starting to hear notes of.
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Listen, it's everything is relationship.
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So at CLM, we have a lot of employees.
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And to be honest with you, I'm not one of these people like they say, well, I have all
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these kids and I love them all the same.
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You may love your children all the same, but you interact with all of them based, if you're
44:03
really attentive, you're going to interact with them in different personality.
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So with all the employees here, I interact with each one into where I think will be most
44:12
effective to help them understand what I'm trying to communicate.
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So I don't treat everybody.
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It's not like the same thing.
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It's not cookie cut.
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And if I can share with people in prayer, don't become a chameleon or a robot to the
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culture of how you pray.
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Just be real with God.
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You have to be.
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And people listen, and the other thing is, if you're a person who prays a lot and God
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answers the prayer, they're going to come to you.
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I'll close with this one testimony.
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So Paul and I, my son-in-law, we go to Israel and we're working on some business stuff we
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do there.
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So we go into a meeting and there's high level Knesset members and the ones we're meeting
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with are Orthodox.
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So these are Orthodox Jewish guys, you know, the curl, the black suit, the big hats, the
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whole thing.
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And one of them couldn't come to the meeting because he had had a bypass surgery, a heart
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attack and triple bypass.
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And so I said, okay, well, it's no big deal.
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I said, listen, we can meet with them the next time we come.
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What we were doing was a preliminary step and it was going to take three trips anyway.
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So this was the first trip.
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And the other Orthodox guy said, oh no, he said, Rabbi, this other Rabbi, he says he
45:33
has to meet with you.
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And I said, no, we can do it.
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Listen, he just had a bypass three days ago.
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He said, no, he wants to meet with you.
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I said, no, please, please.
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He said to me, he said, Rabbi, call me Rabbi.
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He said, he wants you to pray for him.
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This is an Orthodox Rabbi and knows that I'm the Jesus guy.
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And I said, okay.
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So we went to a hotel where we know the manager and, you know, they have those private suites
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on the upstairs.
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And what they did is they sent security in there and blocked that off.
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And this Knesset Rabbi comes in and he still got the little stickers from, you know, where
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they do all the heart monitoring and stuff.
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So he came out from his house there and he doesn't speak any English, total Hebrew.
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I have never met him before, but I had prayed for a friend of his that had cancer, was supposed
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to die and the Lord healed him.
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And so he said, he evidently said to him, he says, listen, we're meeting with Paul and
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Kurt.
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He said, make sure you have Kurt pray for you.
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And he didn't come.
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So anyway, I'm just saying, so I go in and I had to explain to him, I said, listen, I'm
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not a healer.
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Okay.
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It's not me.
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Okay.
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I said, I have a gift, but the gift is from the Lord, from Yeshua.
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So I said, when I pray, I have to pray for you and shoe his name because it's not me.
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I mean, I'm not like the gift doesn't belong to me.
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It flows through me.
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He says, all right.
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So he's good with that.
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And they translate or translates and Paul speaks Hebrew and he's translating to them.
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And I'll never forget it.
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Paul, I'll tell you, he unbuttons his shirt.
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This is an Orthodox Jewish guy.
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He's got the stickers on there and he wants me to put my hand in on his heart.
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And I do.
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And man, I felt the heat coming through my hand and I prayed for a Lord, you heal him
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in Yeshua's name because he was afraid.
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And I prayed for him the peace of God, the shalom comes and the Lord healed.
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So there you go.
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So and that's why you've been with us this morning.
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People say, why do you?
47:28
It's not just the humanitarian aid.
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They sense that this person prays and gets results.
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And if I could say anything, the results come.
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It's not about me.
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I'm not trying to exalt my ministry.
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Listen, it's just a calling.
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But my whole walk with the Lord has been fueled by relationship.
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It's just relationship.
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And the other thing is I gave up years ago trying to explain my relationship with Jesus
47:52
and the Lord to people because it's personal.
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It would be, I don't think as married couples, I don't think you should ever discuss intimacy
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with anyone.
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It's between you and your spouse.
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It's holy.
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It's a gift.
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I don't think you should ever talk about it, even with girls, with girls, guys, it should
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be off.
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It should be off limits.
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And I think some of the stuff that you talk to God about should be off limits as well.
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I think it has to remain special.
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And then it does.
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So when you get into that situation, whether you're in fifth grade and you don't want to
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get a whooping or you need somebody to be healed, you need to be able to go in there
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and like I said and say, Lord, I need a favor.
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And He gave it to me.
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That's good stuff.
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Wow.
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Podcast to curtlandrew.com.
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If you've got questions, you've got topics that you'd like us to talk about.
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Rabbi, we'll just add them up if we get a ton of the same topics.
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I guess that'll probably tell us what people want extra information about and kind of have
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you speak into it.
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So again, you can send that over a podcast at curtlandrew.com.
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That would help out a ton.
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All right, Rabbi.
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That's going to do it for this episode.
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You have a good rest of the day.
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You have a good weekend and we'll see you next time.
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All right.
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Thank you, Darrell.
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Good night.