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Kimberly's Back! · Let's Ask the Mamas!

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  Speaker 1: We got a question for American Mama's. Dear Mama's, where
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  Speaker 1: has Kimberly been recently? Well, let's ask our americ and
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  Speaker 1: Mama's and joining us now our American Mama's Terry Edville
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  Speaker 1: and Kimberly Burlison. We've missed you, and Terry's done a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful job filling in. But yes, there's as I understand it,
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  Speaker 1: there's been some chaos going on.
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  Speaker 2: I've been in house hell, I have been. I've had
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  Speaker 2: my houses flooded. I had a car totaled, my house
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  Speaker 2: was being fixed, and then they actually hit a waterline
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  Speaker 2: and it flooded again. So that's where I've been.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, why did it flood the first time?
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  Speaker 2: It was a toilet that overflowed it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then when they were fixing things, they just drilled
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  Speaker 2: right into a water main did it all over again.
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  Speaker 2: So it has been it's been crazy. And in the
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  Speaker 2: midst of this, we had a family member die and
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  Speaker 2: I had company. I had company. That was the good thing.
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  Speaker 2: The highlight was having my company come for the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about company with you before. And you have
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  Speaker 1: a hard day.
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  Speaker 2: They know the rule. They know the rule and they
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  Speaker 2: they adhered by the stay for only three days the rule.
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  Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's the rule for you.
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  Speaker 3: That's the rule.
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  Speaker 1: Three days and then you're gone. Nobody stay longer.
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  Speaker 2: But in the midst of them coming, we had so
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  Speaker 2: much fun talking about stories. But my girlfriend and her
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  Speaker 2: husband shared the craziest story and I would have to
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  Speaker 2: share it with everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They have a membership to a massage place, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say who it is because it's a
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  Speaker 2: well known massage place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a questionnaire. When you go to one of
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  Speaker 2: these places, you have a questionnaire and it tells you
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  Speaker 2: would you rather a female or a male massage you? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So my guy, Mike, my my friend's husband, he put
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  Speaker 2: female because he's not comfortable the guy massaging him.
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  Speaker 1: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: He goes in for his appointment and Jingjin walks in,
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  Speaker 2: who identifies as a woman, but he is a man.
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  Speaker 2: So Mike, my friend, he says, he's very uncomfortable. There's
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  Speaker 2: people in the waiting room. He doesn't really know how
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  Speaker 2: to deal with this, so he doesn't want to make
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  Speaker 2: a scene. So he goes to the front and he says,
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  Speaker 2: can I speak with a manager. Yeah, And she says,
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  Speaker 2: I am the manager and he goes, I put on
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  Speaker 2: my questionnaire that I didn't want a man massaging me,
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  Speaker 2: and so I'm not really comfortable with gingin. And she
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  Speaker 2: said loudly, that is a woman, and he goes, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's a man who thinks he's a woman. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: not comfortable. We don't discriminate in this place, and if
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  Speaker 2: you have a problem with it, you can leave, and
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  Speaker 2: he said he left, Yeah, he was very uncomfortable. He left.
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  Speaker 2: He gets home my girlfriend Kathleen. She's like, that's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: You need to call them. So he calls them. They
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  Speaker 2: agree to give him his money back, okay. But he
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  Speaker 2: goes to another location, which is the same company, and
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  Speaker 2: he fills out another questionnaire and so he puts on
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  Speaker 2: his questionnaire biological woman. He would prefer a biological woman, okay,
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  Speaker 2: to try to try and fix it. The manager thought
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  Speaker 2: that was funny, and she said why did I'm just curious, like,
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  Speaker 2: why did you say biological woman? And so he shares
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  Speaker 2: the story of the other location, which is the same franchise, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and she could not believe it. She could not believe it,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, what would you have done in that situation?
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  Speaker 2: And I probably would have said just a little. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what I would have done in that situation,
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  Speaker 2: but it was very upsetting to him, and I thought,
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  Speaker 2: how interesting, What an interesting situation.
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  Speaker 1: But again, this is where we get back to the
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  Speaker 1: truth matters, right, And if I say I'm not comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: especially in a me too era? Right, So, say you
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  Speaker 1: have a woman who goes in for massage and says
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  Speaker 1: she's been raped in the past, She's been abused, violated,
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  Speaker 1: So true, and so she's not comfortable around men. She
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  Speaker 1: cannot relax around men she doesn't know, because that's that's
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  Speaker 1: been the source of her trauma in the past. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and she says, I want a woman, and this gentleman
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  Speaker 1: comes in claiming to be a woman, and she's now vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: She's in, you know, a massage a parlor, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of it, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, you're basically just wearing a towel, and
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  Speaker 1: now there's a man there saying that he's a woman,
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  Speaker 1: and you've clearly asked for a woman in the me
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  Speaker 1: too era, isn't that traumatizing for the customer?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, a couple of things struck me about
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  Speaker 3: the whole story. He was trying to be discreet, so
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  Speaker 3: the fact that the manager ended up being loud virtue
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  Speaker 3: signaling to everybody in the place, like I'm I'm this
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  Speaker 3: virtuous person who does not see you know that this
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  Speaker 3: person is actually a man. He says he's a woman,
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  Speaker 3: so he's a woman. The other thing I thought was
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  Speaker 3: so interesting is right now in the UK, the Glamor
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  Speaker 3: magazine has nine transgender men on the cover and they
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  Speaker 3: are all women of the Year. They are all heralded
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  Speaker 3: as these strong, capable women. And when you go and
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  Speaker 3: you read some of the lines that they've said, one
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  Speaker 3: of the things that one of the men, they said,
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  Speaker 3: if you could have a wish, what would you wish?
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  Speaker 3: One of these transgender men who are now transgender women said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I just wish that these men in this
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  Speaker 3: world would just like date us without judging us, like
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  Speaker 3: what is the big deal? We are women? And I
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  Speaker 3: often talked about how worried I am for these college
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  Speaker 3: boys and if they are at a bar dancing with
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  Speaker 3: who they think is a woman, all their buddies are
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  Speaker 3: there only to you know, make out with them. Dance
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  Speaker 3: and then find out that that's actually a male that
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  Speaker 3: they just made out with. How damaging that is. You
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  Speaker 3: should be able to say the truth this is, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a male who wants to be a woman. So all
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  Speaker 3: the makeup and I've put all of the dress, but
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  Speaker 3: the harm it's doing in so many different areas is
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  Speaker 3: that's nothing would happen to exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Have to address.
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  Speaker 1: with the gro listen, thank you so much, Shaking