Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 229: Cattle Market Rebound, Record Pairs, and a Beef Checkoff Rant with John Campbell
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- 0:00In today's market recap episode with John Campbell, we are
- 0:03breaking down everything that we have seen in the live cattle
- 0:06markets over the past week. John has some really encouraging
- 0:10news for everyone as we go into this week of Christmas and as we
- 0:15round out and just wrap up everything that we've seen over
- 0:18the past week and anything we can kind of anticipate going
- 0:21into the next few weeks as well. John also gives some thoughts
- 0:25and commentary in relation to Dan's thoughts and commentary
- 0:30from last week on his market episode where he talked about
- 0:34the beef check off and some of his concerns and thoughts on
- 0:38where money is going, what we're seeing, all of those things.
- 0:41John gives some just candid commentary on that in today's
- 0:45episode as well. Before we hop into today's
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- 1:47Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily Podcast, your go to source for
- 1:51the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the update
- 1:54shaping agriculture today. I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a
- 1:57passionate advocate for agriculture here to keep you
- 2:00informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 2:03episode. John, welcome back to the
- 2:12podcast. You are once again an Oklahoma.
- 2:16Instead of asking, how's wonderful life in Colorado?
- 2:19How's how's life in Oklahoma? How are the kids?
- 2:21How's everything going? Wow.
- 2:22It's just, it's just great. You know, I, I married an Okie
- 2:27and so, you know, of course she's right at home.
- 2:30I don't know. Did I ever tell you when you're
- 2:32driving late at night how you can tell when you cross the
- 2:35Oklahoma border? The roads get really bad and you
- 2:38feel like the roads are going to throw you off the road before
- 2:41you're driving does. Is that what you're referring
- 2:43to? Because if so.
- 2:44No, no. Your kids start fighting, your
- 2:47dog starts barking, your wife wants to go to bed and you feel
- 2:51like stealing something. Yep, Yep.
- 2:54So my wife does, my wife does not the humor in there.
- 2:58But anyway, that's that's what I always used as a reference when
- 3:02I was courting my wife. I was driving to Oklahoma about,
- 3:06you know, right when I crossed the border, things, things start
- 3:10to happen. I'm sure she still appreciates
- 3:12that every time you guys go. Back to Oklahoma now.
- 3:15Right. Right, right, right.
- 3:18Geez, Louise. Well, what has happened in the
- 3:21markets over the past week? Give us the kind of the update
- 3:24and your thoughts on things in Mahana and just things in
- 3:27general. Sure last week First off on
- 3:31Tuesday 42183 cattle boy it it it was just like they'll never
- 3:37be another bad day. I I thought our like kids 30 to
- 3:41in spots 50 higher. I can name spots where they were
- 3:45$100 a hundred higher. Just a just a complete runaway.
- 3:50We had a lot of nice cattle, but we had you know quite a, we had
- 3:534500 a week before. But you know, we had some little
- 3:582 weight cabs up to $7.00 a pound, some 380 lbs steers to $6
- 4:06435 at 560. I mean, Lauren, these are prices
- 4:10that are getting back pretty darn close to where we were
- 4:14before the Big Crunch was on there late October through the
- 4:18first part of N5 weight steer cabs, five O 7 1/2, some 610 LB
- 4:27black steers here lot up to 428, 7:15 at 379.
- 4:33And I'm giving you the outside tops, but they would be
- 4:36substantial. I knew we would sell some
- 4:38numbers at these levels. A Lotus steers weigh in 835 at
- 4:434th, 343 rather and some big 9 weight cattle at 3:15.
- 4:49Over on the heifer side £350 heifers AT5554 weight heifers
- 4:57AT5O55 weight black heifers at 432 1/2.
- 5:03We had some 6 weight heifers up to 359.
- 5:06Here's some 685 LB Angus weaned effers at 342 and some 8 weight
- 5:13limb flex effers at 321. Then on Friday, something you
- 5:19don't see reported a lot, but we had 31165 head of stock cows,
- 5:27bread, Peppers and pears here just just this last Friday.
- 5:31I didn't think the market made it extreme highs quite what we
- 5:35saw in November, but still a really, really good market on
- 5:40these stock cows bulk about you know the highest quality cows
- 5:45kind of cabin February to April they would bring from 38 1/2 up
- 5:50to 4300 on those three to five year old cows, a solid mouth
- 5:56cows cut mostly 3300 up to a top of 4000.
- 6:01The older cows I thought two $300 spots, $400.00 higher.
- 6:07Everybody's kind of thinking that well, you know, these light
- 6:10cabs have rebounded so much that on these short term cows
- 6:16thinking that they'll have pretty good property in in that
- 6:19first cap crop that comes out of a 2500 up to 3000 on the older
- 6:25cows and you know, bred heifer market.
- 6:29I was a little disappointed, but still pretty good 3500 to 4000.
- 6:34I was, was hoping we'd have a little more 40, some $100 bred
- 6:39heifers, but you know the bulk of them kind of 35 like I said
- 6:44up to four with a few outstanding.
- 6:46We had some $4500 bread effers, but we sure would have sold more
- 6:51of them from 35 to 38 then we would have north of of of 4000
- 6:57did have some outstanding 2 year old bears.
- 7:00There was about 50 or 60 of them from the Graham farms.
- 7:04They were actually out of Kansas, had 2 weight fall camps
- 7:08on them and there were several drafts of those brought north of
- 7:135005 thousand up to 51 1/2. So nothing to sneeze about.
- 7:18That's certainly the highest price pairs that that that we
- 7:21have sold. Yeah, absolutely.
- 7:24It's encouraging to have a good week for sure.
- 7:26How about other markets outside of Lahana?
- 7:29What are we seeing? Kind of?
- 7:30Across the livestock market a lot last Wednesday, a lot like
- 7:35La Hana 31145 cattle, so a pretty good representation out
- 7:41of Dodge. 4 weight steers up to 570.
- 7:44They had some 485 lbs steers bring 5 and 1/4.
- 7:49There's 6 weight cattle similar to ours 424, seven weights at
- 7:53376 and had some 8 weight cattle in Dodge City to 359.
- 7:59The heifer complex, their best 4 weight heifers brought 580 which
- 8:05is just tremendous. 520 LB heifers at 447.
- 8:10They did sell some heifers that weighed a little on top of 6 for
- 8:14374 and some 720 white cattle at 3:43 Thursday in Pratt, KS on a
- 8:24little over 3000 cattle there in Pratt $6.17 on 337 pounders,
- 8:344/10 at 577. Pretty well mirrored what went
- 8:38on in La Hauna at Dodge. 5 weight cattle again north of $5
- 8:42five O 5. But thing I thought was really
- 8:45impressive and would be back to as high as they've ever been.
- 8:51Pratt did sell some 615 LB steers 54 and that that would be
- 8:57as high as ever recorded. So good to see these markets
- 9:01have rebounded pretty much completely.
- 9:04The great great big cattle are not there yet.
- 9:08I'm I'm optimistic we get back you know, the best 7 weight
- 9:11cattle in Pratt brought 387 and they had some 820 LB steers at
- 9:17360. If you remember back late
- 9:21October, they sold some 8 weight cattle and Pratt for north of
- 9:24$4.00. So we've got a ways to go for a
- 9:28complete rebound on the feeders. But the by golly, the light
- 9:32cattle, we, we put it all back on them.
- 9:35So that's, that's good news for producers that I don't see it
- 9:39going anywhere but steady to higher.
- 9:42We'll we'll just run into a time frame here after the first of
- 9:46the year where the light cattle will get harder and harder to
- 9:49find a with the condition like you'll life and the grass guys,
- 9:53they'll be more and more prevalent as we go along.
- 9:57These guys are really scrambling to put these grass cattle
- 10:00together. I have had a few guys, you know,
- 10:03kind of doing the math and these 6 weight Cal dollar per headwise
- 10:08are figuring out about the same as one way and 4:50.
- 10:12It's just the difference in where they're going.
- 10:15In December, those 6 weight cattle, most of your grass guys
- 10:20and your double stock guys to the east think of 600 pounders a
- 10:24little too big, so you have to trade them off to the feed lot
- 10:27guys. But as we get into January and
- 10:30February, you'll see those 6 weight cattle get substantially
- 10:34higher because the grass guys will start entertaining one that
- 10:40big that they're not doing now. So I, I went for great things
- 10:45on, you know, any cattle that have got the right quality and
- 10:50condition weighing 6 1/2 really on down from from this this
- 10:55point on. I, I think we're in great shape
- 10:57and you know, the feeder fed cattle deal holds together
- 11:01hopefully just because the supply shorter.
- 11:04Why these feeder cattle aren't any explosion, Why I think we're
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- 12:01Cattle. Yeah, it's encouraging to round
- 12:05out the year in a positive note and back to kind of where we
- 12:09were before everything kind of crapped the bed and back to
- 12:13where producers are starting to make some of that money again.
- 12:16Did you say? Crap to you.
- 12:18I did. I did.
- 12:20I would say shit in the bed, but crap the bed is similar.
- 12:24You know, John, I'm trying to watch my car scene in the new
- 12:28year, all right? I'm trying to be a little bit.
- 12:33Better about. It so crap the best.
- 12:35Yeah, right, right. I, I, I have not done a very
- 12:38good job there. But I, that's what, that's what
- 12:42makes me me. And I won't apologize.
- 12:44Exactly, exactly, exactly. No use apologizing for it in the
- 12:50slightest. I get all the entertainment out
- 12:52of it so you know I'm here for it.
- 12:54And everyone can laugh at me for saying crap the bed because it
- 12:57does sound a little silly, I'll admit that myself.
- 12:59So. Well, at your age especially.
- 13:03Yeah, that's that's a valid take.
- 13:04I don't mean the saying I mean literally.
- 13:08But anyway, that's an issue. You know, you've only blamed the
- 13:12dog so long. Lord, you know that's something
- 13:15you'll just have to take up with your husband to my my wife still
- 13:18still doesn't deal with it. Oh, too good, too good.
- 13:21Well, John, any other thoughts just on the markets or kind of
- 13:24what we've been seeing over the past week?
- 13:26Any thoughts as we kind of go forward into the last full week
- 13:29of the year as we kind of round out the rest of the year as
- 13:32well? Well.
- 13:33I wanted to reflect a little bit, kind of like Dan Garholt.
- 13:38Is it Garholt? Gearholt.
- 13:40Gearholt, Gearholt. I'm sorry, Dan, Dan Gearholt.
- 13:44He took his hat off at the last you notice.
- 13:46I don't have my hat on and but I thought Dan really made some
- 13:50great observations about the beef check off and really spot
- 13:56on. And if you haven't listened to
- 13:57his podcast, like, you know, he, I mean, he had his flowered
- 14:02shirt on and still had his T-shirt.
- 14:03I mean, he's still pretty conservative with that.
- 14:05That's great. But he, it was hats off and
- 14:08gloves on. And, and I thought I, I would
- 14:12share with you some of the answers.
- 14:14He, he wonder, well, what in the hell are we doing with this
- 14:16beach check off money? You know, why aren't we spending
- 14:20it buying TV ads and da da, da, da, da.
- 14:22And he is 100% right, especially since we kind of have a, you
- 14:29know, a political process in place with, you know, our
- 14:33secretary of agriculture and Kennedy and Trump that are big
- 14:36beef eaters and beef and farm promoters.
- 14:40You would think we would direct a little more of the attention
- 14:43while we have everybody's on the same page.
- 14:46But they do the beef check off one thing to answer where the
- 14:50money is going. They do give us these dandy
- 14:52buyer cards and they issue all of those that and that.
- 14:56I guess that's to help convince cattle buyers to eat beef.
- 15:00So you can get some of those. If you come by Winter livestock,
- 15:03I can get you a recipe card and a notepad.
- 15:07They're also available to help producers take notes and prepare
- 15:11the beef that they raise. You know, you're you're short.
- 15:14RIP deal. They're probably a recipe in
- 15:16there. So really, money well spent
- 15:19convincing cattle people to eat beef.
- 15:22They have also given 1.2 million to the American Farm Bureau so
- 15:27that 100 school districts across the US can learn about cattle
- 15:31sustainability and how genetic selection can reduce methane
- 15:37production to help the environment and reduce
- 15:41greenhouse gas. So we've got that bullshit
- 15:45agenda that they're also supporting.
- 15:47So that that's, that's great news.
- 15:49And it helps kind of strengthen the alliance of the Angus
- 15:52Association, who has also partnered with the Bezos Earth
- 15:57Fund, who is also partnered with the Walmart vertical
- 16:00integration. And, and they also give the NCBA
- 16:05of the 38 million that they gathered in last data available
- 16:10was in 2024, giving CBA 25,000,000 of the 38 million
- 16:16they collected. And everyone pays the dollar
- 16:21check off so that we can give it to the NCPA that only represents
- 16:253% of the beef producers in the United States.
- 16:29So I am done with my grant and I will put my winter livestock cap
- 16:34back on and wish everyone a very, very Merry Christmas and
- 16:40warned you and your family as well.
- 16:42And I don't know, hopefully we can talk again next week, but if
- 16:46we can't, why? Happy New Year and we'll all
- 16:51enjoy the holiday. Absolutely.
- 16:53I couldn't round it out in a better way.
- 16:56John, I, myself and my family are going to be enjoying some
- 16:59beef, short ribs and some leg of lamb for our Christmas dinner.
- 17:03What are you guys doing in Oklahoma?
- 17:05I have to ask. Of course, it's a prime rib and
- 17:10my my Thanksgiving was I didn't come out that great, but going
- 17:14to do them on the Traeger. But I'm going to sear first and
- 17:18then reduce the heat. And so I did it the opposite.
- 17:22I made it a little too rare and I got some kind of side eye from
- 17:27a lot of the family. But I'm vowing to do better.
- 17:30I'm going to do better this time.
- 17:31And for what that shit cost you better do better.
- 17:36Prime rib is a little too expensive these days to just be
- 17:39letting it be something that's just all right for getting so.
- 17:43Exactly, exactly. Yeah.
- 17:45You got to kind of make every orifice in your body, kind of
- 17:48pucker up a little bit when you slap that baby on the counter
- 17:52and get the old Visa card out. Yes, absolutely.
- 17:56Well, I will admit this to everyone, listening to thousands
- 18:00of people that are going to hear this.
- 18:01There was one time when we cooked brisket earlier this
- 18:04summer for something and my husband and left me in charge of
- 18:07it with the trigger. And I have experience on the
- 18:09trigger. I feel confident in using the
- 18:11trigger. Well, I didn't realize that when
- 18:13you are smoking something for so long that you have to check the
- 18:16pellets and like replenish the pellets in the trigger.
- 18:20And so we were and I was out there with this spray bottle.
- 18:24I had the temp gauge like all of this stuff.
- 18:26And I called my husband at some point.
- 18:28I was doing the Dang thing. Like, he left me detailed
- 18:30instructions. In those detailed instructions,
- 18:33he may or may not have said to make sure that the trigger
- 18:36stayed on. I didn't realize that the
- 18:38trigger would run out of pellets and therefore turn off.
- 18:40And I had to text him at one point be like, hey, this temp is
- 18:43dropping like, pretty rapidly. He's like, is the trigger still
- 18:46on? And indeed, I did run out of
- 18:49pellets. Indeed, it was a thing.
- 18:51It was a whole ordeal. Was able to get the temp back up
- 18:54and finish cooking the brisket. It still turned out great,
- 18:57thankfully. But Lauren's trigger
- 19:00responsibilities have been relinquished.
- 19:02And luckily, my husband will. Yeah, I'm out.
- 19:04I'm out cooking some steaks or something that doesn't need to
- 19:07be on the trigger all day. I'm out and luckily for this
- 19:10extravaganza that we are doing with the beef short ribs and the
- 19:12lamb, they get to cook at the same temperature.
- 19:15Thank the Lord on that. There you go.
- 19:17They are in my husband's hands fully and completely on on this
- 19:22endeavor that we are going on this weekend.
- 19:25So I I will be in the kitchen. I will be doing the pies and the
- 19:29sides and the everything else like that.
- 19:31And he can man the trigger, so. Oh boy, that that's got to be
- 19:34reassuring to your the rest of your extended family.
- 19:38Yes, I, I think that they are very excited for our main dishes
- 19:42that we are going to be having because I am not in charge of
- 19:45the trigger this time. So we're all golden there.
- 19:47If any of them are listening, Christmas dinner is safe, don't
- 19:51you worry. Good deal, it's in good hand.
- 19:54It is. It's in very good hands.
- 19:56So well, John, thank you for your time today.
- 19:59Thank you for the market update, your commentary, your thoughts,
- 20:01all the things to all of our listeners out there, have a very
- 20:04Merry Christmas. We hope that you guys are able
- 20:06to spend some time with your family.
- 20:08They're able to sit down and eat some beef and enjoy the season
- 20:12and just the reason for it as well.
- 20:14So John, thank you for your time to all of our listeners.
- 20:16We will see you all next time on another.
- 20:19Episode Merry Christmas everyone.
- 20:21Same to you, Lord. Bye.
- 20:22Thank you. Merry Christmas everyone.