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Jax Taylor, Vanderpump History, and The Randall Scandal · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I had such a juicy, long interview with Jax Taylor
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  Speaker 2: from Vanderpump in person. You're going to get that in
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  Speaker 2: I did this weekend. But first, let's get into some
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  Speaker 2: other amazing Real Housewives scoop. As you know, everyone was
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  Speaker 2: disappointed to hear that the legacy cast, all the OGs
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  Speaker 2: from New York, were going to get together and we
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  Speaker 2: were going to at least have that show. And then
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  Speaker 2: negotiations happened, they fell through, Everyone said it's Jill Zarin's
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  Speaker 2: fault because she wanted to be paid as much as
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  Speaker 2: the other girls. And all Jill Zarin said was, look,
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  Speaker 2: why can't we just do it favored nations? Everybody gets
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  Speaker 2: the same, like what happened on Ultimate Girls Trip. We
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  Speaker 2: all got $ 100, 000 for the week. They're like, no, we're
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  Speaker 2: just not doing it. But wait a minute, that's actually
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  Speaker 2: a really great idea. Why don't we just do Ultimate
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  Speaker 2: Girls Trip with the girls from Legacy, but not invite
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  Speaker 2: Jill Zarin? Very sad about that. But the cast is
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  Speaker 2: still great. We've got Ramona, Luann, Dorinda, Sonia, and then
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  Speaker 2: they're bringing back Kelly Bessamone and also Kristen Taichman, which
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  Speaker 2: I thought was interesting because when I interviewed Ramona, I said,
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  Speaker 2: was there anybody that you didn't totally jive with? And
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  Speaker 2: she's like, I actually really didn't think Kristen was like
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  Speaker 2: that interesting. Like, I mean, she's a really nice girl.
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  Speaker 2: She's a really pretty girl. I just didn't think she
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  Speaker 2: was that great. Anyway, maybe that's why they cast her.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they heard the podcast and thought, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Let's bring back a pretty girl that Ramona doesn't totally like.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, they are going to Scary Island. They're staying
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  Speaker 2: at the same resort that they did, the same beautiful
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  Speaker 2: house that they did, I guess, in St. Barts that season. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't Scary Island. It was whatever, season five.
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  Speaker 2: Season five, I guess they're staying at the same place
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  Speaker 2: in St. Barts or something. They're only going to stay
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  Speaker 2: there for a week. And that's what's going to happen. Bethany,
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  Speaker 2: they had, now we know from Andy Cohen's book that
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  Speaker 2: he talked to Bethany about it. And Bethany said, make
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  Speaker 2: me an offer I can't refuse. But I guess they
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  Speaker 2: gave her one that she did refuse. And so then
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  Speaker 2: she was out. Instead, she's doing what a Juicy Cooper
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  Speaker 2: described as middle class cosplay. Brilliant way to describe it. Now, Bethany,
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  Speaker 2: to fill her days, is going to places that middle-class
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  Speaker 2: people go. But for Bethany, oh, my God, unbelievable. Olive Garden,
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  Speaker 2: are you freaking kidding me? Free breadsticks?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She goes to the dollar store. She goes to Forever 21.
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  Speaker 2: And she reviews those the same way she did review
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  Speaker 2: makeup from drugstores. So, you know, good for her. Seems
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  Speaker 2: like she's killing it. Anyway. Then we got the trailer
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  Speaker 2: dropped for the new Real Housewives franchise, which are younger,
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  Speaker 2: interesting women that we have never seen before. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, people are kind of like.
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  Speaker 4: Eh, eh.
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  Speaker 2: I will watch it. Hopefully there's enough juice in there
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  Speaker 2: that'll make me stay. I love seeing anything in New
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  Speaker 2: York City. These girls are all really attractive and seem interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I hope they have some foundation of knowing each other. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: it might be a difficult sell. As you know, when
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  Speaker 2: the cast of New York started, almost all of them
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  Speaker 2: knew each other when it began because Jill put them
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  Speaker 2: all together. And that's why Vanderpump is so successful, which
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  Speaker 2: we talk about in the show later today. So hopefully
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  Speaker 2: this will be a hit and we can all really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy it. And now for Jax Taylor. Hello and welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Juicy Scoop. I'm very excited, you guys. I am
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  Speaker 2: Jax Taylor. And I saw you last weekend and I
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  Speaker 2: was very excited to see you. You looked adorable. Brandi
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  Speaker 2: and I were a little handsy with you and I
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  Speaker 2: did an apology. to Cruz and Brittany.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you don't have to apologize.
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  Speaker 2: For being a little handsy for you.
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  Speaker 4: They know who you are.
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  Speaker 2: I know Brittany wouldn't care. I know Brittany wouldn't care,
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  Speaker 2: but we had a lot of fun hanging out at
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite spots in La Quinta.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: The Nest.
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  Speaker 4: The Nest is awesome. I love that place.
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  Speaker 2: It really is so fun. And we were just talking
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  Speaker 2: about how I was like, I didn't know if you're
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  Speaker 2: friends with Spencer Pratt, but I'm like, you guys should
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  Speaker 2: be best friends.
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  Speaker 4: So, I've been going back and forth with him. We've
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  Speaker 4: been texting each other. Obviously, he's a father. I'm a father.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes life gets in the way. We both got boys.
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  Speaker 4: We're both ex-villains of reality. Well, villains. I don't talk
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  Speaker 4: about ex. I'm still a villain. Ex-villains, villains, whatever you
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  Speaker 4: want to think of, of reality TV. I think we
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  Speaker 4: have a lot in common. I do, too. I reached
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  Speaker 4: out to him, I want to say, it was a
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  Speaker 4: couple years ago. Hey, man, how you doing? Yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 4: and we were talking about reality show and this and that,
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  Speaker 4: and we were talking about doing something together. And I
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  Speaker 4: know he was in the middle of something going on
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  Speaker 4: with him and Heidi doing a podcast together. He's like,
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  Speaker 4: I think this is a great idea. I'm just in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of doing something here, but let me see
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  Speaker 4: what's going on with that, and then I'll get back
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  Speaker 4: to you. And then we were supposed to have dinner,
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  Speaker 4: and then something came up with Brittany, and then something
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  Speaker 4: came up with Heidi. So it's in the... We're trying
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  Speaker 4: to make this happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think it would be great.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would be hilarious if him and I
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  Speaker 4: had a show together.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I think you're very... similar and in a fun way,
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  Speaker 2: not too similar, like the same person, but just, I
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  Speaker 2: think your perspectives on Hollywood and reality show and everything.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I want to have you on because
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to have you back. You were on a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago and we've got obviously so many questions.
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  Speaker 4: I even had a title for it. I even told
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  Speaker 4: him the washed up boys. I really loved it. I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was hilarious. I'd like the washed up boys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but it would, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, like a lot instead of lost boys, the.
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  Speaker 4: Lost boys, the washed up boys, washed up reality. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like I said, like I said, him and
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  Speaker 4: I get along really well. And I would love, love, Spencer,
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  Speaker 4: if you're listening to this right now, got to do
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  Speaker 4: something together.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Got to do something together.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will let him know. Okay. Let's talk about,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, where were you when you heard, I
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  Speaker 2: know where I was. I was getting my roots done.
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  Speaker 2: Where were you when you first heard about Sandoval, Tom
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  Speaker 2: Sandoval having an affair with Raquel?
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  Speaker 4: I got a phone call. Okay, so the day before...
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to back it up a little bit. The
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  Speaker 4: day before, Brittany and I were... We took crews to
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  Speaker 4: the Long Beach Aquarium. Then we decided to go to dinner.
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  Speaker 4: I got a text on my phone from Andy saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: would you want to come on and watch What Happens
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  Speaker 4: Live next week? You know, just this. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: this was just random. This was just... This is before
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  Speaker 4: I even heard anything. He's like, would you like to
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  Speaker 4: come on and watch What Happens Live next week? I
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  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, that would be awesome. Whatever. How long
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  Speaker 4: had it been?
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  Speaker 2: It had been since before you left the show, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right, before I left the show, right? So then... The
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  Speaker 4: next day, I woke up. My friend Jason, Janet's husband,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know who that is,
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  Speaker 4: reached out to me. He's like, you were right.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, I've heard about this Janet girl.
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  Speaker 4: Janet. Who is Janet? She is Brittany and I's really
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  Speaker 4: close friend. Her and her husband are really close friends.
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  Speaker 4: They live down the street from us. They're in the circle.
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  Speaker 2: They're friends with Kristen, too.
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  Speaker 4: Kristen, Ariana. In fact, she runs Ariana's merch line.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but she's not really been ever featured on the
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  Speaker 2: show or just at parties?
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  Speaker 4: She's at parties and stuff like that. Okay, got it.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, so Jason, her husband, texted me at 8
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  Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. He's like, you were right all
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  Speaker 4: along about that guy. And that's all he said. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what?
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  Speaker 2: You're like, what guy?
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  Speaker 4: He's like, you haven't seen your phone? I go, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's 8 o'clock in the morning. I just woke up.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't looked at my phone yet. I'm drinking my coffee.
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  Speaker 4: He said, look at your phone. And I looked at
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  Speaker 4: my phone, and I was like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have, like, a ton of texts?
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  Speaker 4: I had a ton of messages coming through. And then,
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  Speaker 4: you know... And then it's so funny to watch what
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  Speaker 4: happens live. I'd be like, Jax, can we put you
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  Speaker 4: on hold for a week after? I'm like, thank you, God.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to text you guys saying, please, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to be the first one to watch what
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  Speaker 4: happens live after this broke out. And they were all laughing.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, we wouldn't do that to you.
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  Speaker 4: So we had Lisa on and then I was the
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  Speaker 4: following week. But so, yeah, that's how it all happened.
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  Speaker 2: So were the texts from your cast members or was
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  Speaker 2: it like everybody?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody. I had TMZ. I had all the tabloids. I
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  Speaker 4: had my friends. I had family. And I've been out
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  Speaker 4: of it for a while, so I don't really keep
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  Speaker 4: in touch.
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  Speaker 2: And when you heard, was there any doubt in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: or like, cause I mean, when I first thought I
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  Speaker 2: was like, first I, someone sent it and I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: there got it mixed up. But once it was TMZ
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  Speaker 2: and then I wrote to Lala and she confirmed it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, of course I was blown away because
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  Speaker 2: as someone that's just a fan, we were just seeing
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  Speaker 2: all the dumb rumors about her getting with sports, never Sandoval.
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  Speaker 4: Right. That was a decoy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now we know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Yeah, that was a decoy.
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  Speaker 2: But when you first heard that, what was your first
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  Speaker 2: thought about it?
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  Speaker 4: Not Chuck at all. This has been going on for years.
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  Speaker 4: He finally just got caught. I've been saying this for years.
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  Speaker 4: I've been saying this for years.
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  Speaker 2: So now that I want to get to the deep part.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody wanted to believe me.
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  Speaker 2: When we watched your wedding.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you were very annoyed with him and you're having
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  Speaker 2: a fallout with him. As a viewer, obviously not seeing
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  Speaker 2: except for what they give us from Vanderpump.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It was like slightly confusing. why you were so irritated
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  Speaker 2: with him.
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  Speaker 4: I've been irritated with him for a long time. But
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  Speaker 4: now explain why. I just, you know, Tom and I
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  Speaker 4: have been friends, I guess, well, we were friends for
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  Speaker 4: a very long time. He just kind of went off
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  Speaker 4: on his own path with different things in life. He's
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  Speaker 4: very eccentric. You know, I'm not, I'm a very, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what's the right word.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like, let's just go back. The show started, you, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you came out here, one of the questions was, when
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  Speaker 2: you came out here from Florida, Like you were modeling there,
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  Speaker 2: but you came out here to pursue acting. Like why
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  Speaker 2: did you come to LA?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I came out here. I did the New York circuit.
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  Speaker 4: I did the Miami circuit. I did Europe. The next
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  Speaker 4: stop was California. It's one place I haven't been yet.
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  Speaker 4: And I, and Tom lived out here and you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and you met Tom in Miami modeling. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: He lived in my apartment and then I moved into
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  Speaker 4: his apartment. So it was kind of vice versa. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And, uh, that was in 2000. Tom and I met
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  Speaker 4: each other in, I think, 2000. And then he moved
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  Speaker 4: into my apartment in 2003 in Miami. And then when
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  Speaker 4: you guys met, you were like 18.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We've been friends for a long time. And like I said,
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  Speaker 4: everything was fine. I think it's just, you know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are all working at the restaurant.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, and you and Stassi are a couple from
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  Speaker 2: working at the restaurant.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then he and Kristen are a couple.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then Katie and Schwartz were a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And you're all working at the restaurant with Sheena. And
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  Speaker 2: you first hear from whom that they want to film
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  Speaker 2: you guys possibly for a show.
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  Speaker 4: It was like a month in of me working there.
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  Speaker 4: Lisa kind of came up because I was out. I
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  Speaker 4: was moving back to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Why were you going to leave?
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  Speaker 4: I just was done. You know, I was at an
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  Speaker 4: age where I was like, okay, I've done this game
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  Speaker 4: of modeling, acting, whatever. I need to go back and
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  Speaker 4: get a real job. You know, I talked to my
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  Speaker 4: parents and I was like, I was what, 30 at
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  Speaker 4: the time. I think I was 30, something like that.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, my dad, my parents
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  Speaker 4: are conservative, you know, where's, where's your money going? What
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  Speaker 4: are you doing? And this and that. And, and I
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  Speaker 4: was just at the point where I was just tired
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  Speaker 4: of chasing money. It was a tough, it's a tough world.
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  Speaker 2: You live paycheck to paycheck and bartending.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It was like, this is not what I want
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  Speaker 4: to do with my life. Yes, it's fun, but it's
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  Speaker 4: only fun for so long. And then what am I
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  Speaker 4: going to do?
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  Speaker 2: And nothing had like popped. You hadn't gotten that movie
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  Speaker 2: or that series.
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  Speaker 4: No, I did a bunch of little things and I
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  Speaker 4: was modeling it, but I was modeling, but there was,
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  Speaker 4: it just wasn't fulfilling anymore. I was doing it for
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  Speaker 4: so long. It was fun in my twenties, but now
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  Speaker 4: you're getting, I'm getting a little older, my thirties. It's
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  Speaker 4: just not, it wasn't fun anymore, you know?
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  Speaker 2: And had you been a fan of reality TV or
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  Speaker 2: seen it or been approached by any other, like how
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  Speaker 2: you had been approached to be on like a dating
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  Speaker 2: show or anything when you were pursuing all this stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Brittany, uh, sorry, Stassi and I did a, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 4: a little reality show together in the Bahamas for like
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  Speaker 4: four days. It was a pilot. And other than that, no,
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  Speaker 4: we never, I never got into that. It wasn't my thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I, I watched a little, uh, MTV, like
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  Speaker 4: real world road rules, but that's how long ago this was.
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  Speaker 4: So reality TV was kind of just still in the
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  Speaker 4: works when we started. It was how many years ago? 10,
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  Speaker 4: 11 years ago. Yeah. I mean, reality was kind of
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  Speaker 4: It was good, but it wasn't like if you were
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  Speaker 4: doing reality, then you couldn't be an actor. Now it's
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  Speaker 4: not like that anymore. But in those days when we started.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a kiss of death.
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  Speaker 4: It was a kiss of death. Exactly. So my friends
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  Speaker 4: that were like, hey, should we do the show? Like
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  Speaker 4: Tom and Tom were still trying to be quote unquote actors.
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  Speaker 4: So they're like, you know, I don't know if this
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  Speaker 4: is a good idea. I want to be an actor,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And so I thought that time that was
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  Speaker 4: the big confusion. That was the big like hold up.
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  Speaker 4: So they were. We had to really sell them on it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so you guys kind of knew. Okay, so you
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  Speaker 2: convinced your group of friends, let's just do it.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right. Let's just do it. Why not? You know,
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  Speaker 4: and see what happens. And then I think slowly but
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: surely reality people were starting to do acting. I think
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: NeNe was like the first one to actually get into
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: the acting world.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: And I think there was a couple real world people
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: too that kind of made it into the acting world.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: A couple. So I think it was happening, but it
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: was just very slow. And I think people were just
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: nervous about, you know, crossing that world, you know.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: So okay so then the show is on and i
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: didn't even really watch it in the beginning yeah because
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: i was like oh i don't know what this show
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: like i wasn't that into it and then when i
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: started doing the podcast people were like oh you should
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: have these people on so then i had kristen and
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: then i had stassi and then i was hooked and
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: i was so now i know all what's.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Going on you know it's so funny i uh I
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: dove back into, I don't know if anybody knows, I
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: tell everybody all the time, I don't watch the show.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I don't like watching myself on TV.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So when you would air on a Tuesday night and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: you were on it, you would avoid it.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: No, I've never, I think until watching for the Peacock show,
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: that's the first time really that I've watched a full episode.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I still like watching myself on TV.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Because it was hard, yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not hard. Well, yeah, watching myself was, oh
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: my gosh, it was great. So Brittany and I have
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: a podcast, When Reality Hits, and I decided to go
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: back and did like the first episode two episodes to
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: dive back into it because Brittany didn't really come on
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: until season five. So we were going to go into
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: it and watch a couple of the episodes. So I'm like, Brittany,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I can do this. She's like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: let's just have a couple of drinks, grab a couple
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: of beers, sit it down. Let's watch this. I'm like,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I can do this. And sure enough,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I watched it and I was like, it was cringy.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: It was, I was like, God, who are you? Who
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: is this person? I was just an utter train wreck.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm still somewhat of a train wreck, but
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I was a real train wreck then. I was just,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: I was just so lost. I was just such a lost, like,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: very like spur of the moment you know fly by
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: the seat of my pants i mean it makes for
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: great television don't get me wrong but i was just
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: watching myself i'm like how the hell did anybody stand
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: me want to be around me tolerate me date me
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: how did any i'm watching this i'm like this is
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: awful how could anybody watch this this is terrible and
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: i'm talking about myself mind you not everybody else i'm
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: just talking about me yeah and i just was like
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: how am i i can't watch this i think i
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: got through 75 of the first episode i go britney
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: i can't watch this this is terrible This is just
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: really bad.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So now I, okay, what I think is really interesting
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: is I think.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I'm so embarrassed. Like I'm utterly embarrassed.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's certain reality stars that I watch and,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you know, like I interviewed Ramona Singer. You know who
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Ramona is?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know her very well.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that we talked about is
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: she really is someone that kind of based on her personality,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: but also like her childhood and that she'd block things out.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: She was kind of the perfect reality star that truly
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: forgot that there's cameras. And then you see people come
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: on later that are very manipulative and they kind of
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: start to plan it out. And you know, they're like
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: literally taking notes before they go to the lunch.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: And you obviously were one of those people. And I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: think that's why you were great to watch.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: It's funny you say that. I never, there was certain
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: people on the show that did that, rehearsed themselves. Raquel
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: did that when she first jumped out. We would catch her,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: like literally have a script in her hand. And she
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: would practice her lines and we would catch them. Like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: are you reading lines of a reality show? That's supposed
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to be just off the cuff. And she was just
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: really nervous at the time in her defense. She was
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: just really nervous, but we would catch her like reading
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: lines before we're going into a scene. And like, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: these scenes are like, okay, we're going to go to
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: a pool party. Like how could you be practicing lines
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: at a pool party? Like, I don't, what are you,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I didn't understand that, but yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: that did happen. She was just one of the ones
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: that I saw doing it, but there was other people
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: that did it because it's, it is nerve wracking. I mean,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: being on a show like this, especially with the girls
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: on our show, they're very, You know, new girls don't
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: stick around on the show very long, as you know.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: So they get bullied.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Raquel. And, you know, we know that
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: she was a fan of the show.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And she knew that James was going to be performing there.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And she followed him to like a second location to,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you know, flirt with him. And lo and behold, now
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: she's on the show with her notes before entering. Like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about Raquel? Like, now in retrospect,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: how much do you think she plotted and planned? What
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: is your perspective? Everyone knows my perspective.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know her as well as everybody else. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: think that she may be going through some things upstairs.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's the right way to say this.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I think maybe... she needs to get some help. Is
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: that the right way to say this? What's the political
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: correct way to say this? I think she's got some issues.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Do we all have issues? Absolutely. Yes, we all do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: But I think she's got a little bit more than
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: most people. And I think maybe the show kind of
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: magnified a lot of that. And I think it's a
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: very overwhelming show to be on. And I feel like
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: she just wanted to be accepted. I feel like she
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: was maybe lost before she got on the show. She
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: was kind of lost trying to figure out where she
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: fit in in society. Maybe like, do I be a waitress?
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Do I finish college? Do I do this? I think
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: she was kind of looking for it. And I think
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: when she got the pageants, all this stuff, I think,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I think she was just kind of trying to look
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: for herself a little bit. And then she found the
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: show or got on the show. And I think she
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: was just trying to be accepted and kind of fit
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: in where, how can I be the most popular? What
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: do I have to do to be the most popular
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: or to get where I need to get? And maybe
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that was kind of a way that's, I mean, that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: kind of how I look at it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think? What is, well, I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: do think the initial thought, which I was going to say,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: one thing that's interesting is when I interviewed like Stassi
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff, it was once Britney was on the scene
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and every person that I interviewed only had the greatest,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: nicest things to say about Brittany. Right. And I was like,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you do know that I don't think I've ever talked
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to someone that has the most sterling reputation as Brittany,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that everyone likes her. Everyone believes she was authentic.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Well, she didn't want to be on the show.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And she was.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: She didn't, I had to force her to be on.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: She wanted nothing to do with this. So getting her
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: on there, I had to like, I had to like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: like beg her to do this. So in the beginning,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: she was wanting no part of it. So that's, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: think that kind of, you know, the girl saw that
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: and be like, okay, she's not just another one of
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Jax's flings.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: So that's my other question. So with the cast, as
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: someone would date someone new, James being one of them
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: dating Kristen, how did James come on the show?
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Kristen. He kind of finagled his way in through Dodie.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Dodie was kind of, if you're looking for like a
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: hole in like, it's kind of, If you're looking for
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a way to get into- Not a hole.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Not a hole.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute. I'm sorry. I'm just kidding, Kristen. That's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: not what I meant.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You bet. If you're looking for an entrance into the group.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: An entrance into the group. Sorry. That was a wrong
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: way to put it. A hole.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Sorry, Kristen. If you're looking for a way
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: into the group at that time, Kristen was the most
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: vulnerable one. Okay. So you would go through her, date her,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: sleep with her, do whatever you got to do because
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: she was so vulnerable. And that's what he did.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Where did you end up going for it? This exclusive
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: place that Dad has connections with. They have more cars
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else. You have to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: put me in touch. What's it called? It's Dunaidial.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I got it on Dundial Cars.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Lift?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Dundial Cars.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: be taken from you, what would you do if it
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: was given back?
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: started crying.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: happens next.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I absolutely love James.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I think him and I would get
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: along real well.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Personally, he's a sweetheart. Fucking hilarious. And the kind of
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: funny where he doesn't know he's really being funny, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he just really is funny. So it's like, it's just
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: so great. There's so many great James moments that have
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: been caught.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: The age he is is fun. You're single. I'm sorry.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: You're single until you're married in my eyes. If you've
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: got a girlfriend, to me, you're still single. So you're single,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: you got disposable income, you don't really care about what's
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: going on. I've been there. We all know that I've
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: been there and you kind of don't have a care
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: in the world, which this kind of area that he's
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: in right now can be dangerous because you get sucked
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: in by the light. You get a little bit of
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: a diva mentality, which happened to me a few times.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I got myself in some trouble. So you have to
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: be careful where you are right now, where he is, because,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a dangerous area to be in when
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: like everyone's liking you. Things are going great because it
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: just takes one little thing for you to fall. So
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I always tell him, just be careful everything you're doing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: You're hilarious right now, but just tread lightly.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Do you think that James thinks he's the number one
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: guy in the group?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a tie between him and Ariana. No.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I love James. I think he's hilarious.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I think he's grown up a lot. I love watching him.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: In fact, I just got off the phone with him now.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Him and I are doing a night together at SUR
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: Fun.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: So we're just having fun.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: What night is that?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: June.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Is it next week?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Are we in June yet?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: June 13th. Okay.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: June 13th at SUR. We are having a- Okay, my
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: birthday is June 14th.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Should I come and.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Do a pre-birthday? I think you should come. We're going
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: to have a table. We're going to have fun.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We're going to have the girls there. All right, I'm coming.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I'm coming. Okay. I'm happy for James, though. He's doing
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: real well. Yeah. He's been DJing and everything like that,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: and he just bought his first house.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, I saw the house. It looks really nice. When
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you heard they broke up, when you heard James and
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Raquel broke up, I mean, now there are- First.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Of all, let's back up into the- Okay, let's back up.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: The proposal.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Do you find that weird that Tom Sandoval paid for
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: the proposal?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I have thought that was so weird. I thought it
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: was weird.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Did he not check his finance? Like, who's his money person?
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Because now he has problems with the IRS. Maybe you
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: should have checked in with that guy before you spent
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: 10 grand on planning somebody else's... I thought it was 20.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Was it 20 grand? Okay. I don't know. Okay.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: But.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Okay. So I... Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Back up.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So you're paying... $ 20, 000 for somebody else's proposal with a
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: girl that you're going to initially, well, you could have
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: probably were already hooking up with. Let's be honest. He
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: could have been.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So what is your thoughts on that? Because we know
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: they have fessed up to seven months, but there's a
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: lot of, you know, Bravo detectives that have reason and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: strong theories to thinking it was before that. People thinking
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: was this part of planning the proposal that he wanted
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to show her that he was the better guy in
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a weird way? Or was it him just wanting to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: show the world that he had the money? And because
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: he's not good with money, he's thinking 20 grand at
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: that time. Like when it's rolling.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: What Tom does, this is Tom's thing, his MO. He
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: does things to look good on TV. He did it
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: for me. Oh, here's this and here's that. And then like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: if you do something wrong, he's like, look at all
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the things that Tom's done for you. He uses this
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: as a decoy. Like this is his MO. He does
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: things for other people. So he looks good in front
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: of other people, but he's not really a good person.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Like that's, that's not how it works. And I've called
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: this out and people were just like, no, he's, he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a good guy. Jackson, you're just being this, just being that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, like for instance, he gave me this,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: it's pretty, that sword with the signature of Randy Jackson's. It's,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: it's a kind of a, we love the movie Step Brothers.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: They did this exact same thing. They had a samurai
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: sword where they got Randy Jackson. It's, we love Step
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Brothers and Will Ferrell. And it's kind of a running
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: joke between me, Tom and Tom. It's kind of an
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: inside joke that people don't know. Anyway, the fact that
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: he got a samurai sword signed by Randy Jackson, my
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: favorite movie, Step Brothers, it was great. But I had
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to return it. I know where this is going.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, why do you have to return it?
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I just didn't want anything from that guy. He uses
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: things against you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You returned it to him.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I put it on his patio.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So that was like the Lisa Renner with the bunny.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want anything from you. Because you use
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: it against me later down the line. It's just nothing
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: from him is sincere.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, because when that happened, after the reunion- I was
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: at Lala's, who now looks next door to Sheena in
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Palm Springs.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And I asked about that. I go, well, what was
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that about? Were they already hooking up? Why would he
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: pay that money? Or is he just really done with money?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And he thinks $ 20, 000 was flowing at the time. I'll
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: always be able to make $ 20, 000. Like, what was it?
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of all that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little... I think all of it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And also, both Sheena and Lala said he.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Was that person that did all, that was the first
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to call you. If someone died in your family, he
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: was like, always like the really nice person to the group,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you know, very showy for the camera.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: But he's not doing it because, wow, he's a good person.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: He's doing it. So he looks good in front of
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: everybody else.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And I know it's hard to understand.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: And people will be like, Jack, you're reading into this.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I've never been wrong on this show. Never, never, never, never.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: So I know, and I know this guy, like the
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: back of my hand, I've known him for 20 years. It's,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: it's a game. It's a show. It's, It's a facade.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: It's not real.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: So then after 20 years of it and the sword
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and the wedding, what was that like aha moment where
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: you're like, I see him for who he is and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just, I'm going to put my foot down.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I just, I think, you know, leaving the show was
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: kind of my, I didn't want to be part of
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: the same because I knew what he was doing. Like I,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: he would get away with everything. He's literally been getting
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: away with this for years. This is, this isn't, Raquel
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: is not the first girl. She certainly won't be the last.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: That's just.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: So you believe there were many.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was part of it during the Miami situation.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I was there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: What is the Miami situation?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Explain to everybody.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: What the Miami girl is, because that has been brought
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: up a lot in the last month.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I think her name, in fact, her name is Anna Marie.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: That's her real name. So about season one or two,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: and it was literally a week after Tom and Ariana
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: started dating.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: We did an appearance in Miami. We had some girls
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: in our room. Fact. There was, that girl was in
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: our room. Fact. She was in the room next to mine. Fact.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: They hooked up. Fact. I don't, and that was literally
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: a week after they started dating. That's 100% true. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: was there. I was literally 10 feet away. I could,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: it's a hotel room. I can hear what's going on.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And so now he's dating Ariana.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Mind you, this is a week after they started dating.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And Kristen and he had broken up.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But there was a, there was a, Thank you. Ariana
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: kiss at the Golden Nugget Hotel pool with the shark tank.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And the slide.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So it all overlaps. Yes.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So- And that was, but they still went back and dated.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: He still dated Kristen after that, just like make out.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Then they break up and he starts dating Ariana for good.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And then this Miami girl comes about. How did the Miami,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: did the Miami girl DM Kristen? How did the girls
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: find out about Miami girl?
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, Kristen, she's MacGyver. She can figure out anything. Okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: So I can't remember exactly how she got wind of it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I don't really remember because I didn't say anything at
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: that time. I knew about it, but I didn't say anything.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I don't remember how she got wind of it. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: think maybe we met the girls at the pool in
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: the lobby of the hotel. And then they came back
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: up to our room afterwards. And I think maybe the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: girl maybe just was like, ooh, they're reality stars. He
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: was out dating somebody. Maybe I can get them in
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: trouble or maybe I should DM. I think maybe she
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: just got involved somehow. I don't know. I don't want
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: to say, but this is what I think. So that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: kind of like how that happened. Then she flew out here, right?
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: So she flew out here. Kristen was like, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: this is how Kristen is, right? She's excited about it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: She does do this too.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: She does, right? And then Tom, this girl, Kristen, I think,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: flew her out or she flew, I don't know how
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: she got there. Ended up at Sir. Ariana and Tom
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: are behind the bar. Tom's eyes get this big. Bolts
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: out of the restaurant. Runs home like a little girl.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Runs home. Now, he's done this before. When you approach
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: him on things like this, he bails. He can't just
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: own up to it. So that's what happened.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And then Ariana dies.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I think Ariana was just kind of like, I'm not
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: going to listen to any of this. People are just
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: trying to like, kind of like, I feel bad. It's
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: the same thing. I've been this season. She kind of
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: didn't want to hear it. Like, she's like, you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Tom is the type of person that does have a
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: lot of friends and some of them are girls and
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I trust him. And she's really, I guess, had no
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: reason not to trust him because he's hit it very
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: well for very long. for so long that she really
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: didn't have a reason.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: In your opinion, during their nine years of being in
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a committed relationship, owning a house together, doing a cocktail
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: book together.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: All of it. Which is 100% should have never happened,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: in my opinion.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: What did you think when you heard they were married? Yeah, well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you might as well be married. I mean, it'd be
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: easier to be married and rent than to be not
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: married and own a home together, in my opinion, as
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: far as cutting the profits and all of that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Well, now, for the exact reason of what they're going
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: through right now, You know, poor Ariana, okay, has to
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: deal with all Tom's tax issues, liens against his house,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: IRS owing this. Like, now she has to deal with
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that because she was connected to him. So now all
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: of his crap that he's gone through, and this is
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the exact reason you do not buy a house with somebody.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: But she didn't know. She was looking at Tom like, okay,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: he's going to take care of me, this is that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And little does she know, he was borrowing against the
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: house to pay for the restaurant that he's got going
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: on that's about to go under as well. So, I mean,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I would just feel so bad for her. But you
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: know what? I love that she's like, doing so well
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: right now and she's killing it and I'm just so
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: happy for it and she seems so happy with this
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: new guy who I want to be friends with. He
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: seems like a really cool guy. I mean, yes. But
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I just, getting back to the story about that, I just,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: this is why I personally, and this is my opinion, like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: you shouldn't play house because this is what can happen.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: This is what can happen.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I do think as a viewer, it seemed like
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a major commitment move for a girl who, throughout the show,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Would say, I don't want to have kids.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to get married.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: She said it over and over again. And so then
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: In her defense though, she said this over and over.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So if Tom didn't like that, he should have left
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: a long time ago. She made it very clear she
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: didn't want A, B, and C. She wasn't like, well,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: it was a hidden thing and mixed signals. She made
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: it very clear this is the way she, where she stood.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: And then the fact that she, after nine years of
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: going against what she wanted and said, you know what?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: I love this man, Tom. I'm going to try to
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: freeze my eggs. And when I saw that, I was like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: oh my God, Tom, you are cheating on her. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: she's literally took a decade of her beliefs and said,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: you know what? For Tom's sake and because I love
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: this man, I'm going to freeze my eggs. Even though
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: it's something I don't want to do, I'm going to
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: do this for the man that I love. In the
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: back of my head, I'm like, you're wasting all, you
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: went to the doctor's office with Schwartz, doing all that stuff,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: knowing in the back of your mind that you're cheating,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: that you're probably not, like you're wasting all these people's time.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: With people that really do want to have children, like
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: this guy, this doctor's office, it's hard to get in there.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: It's not like, you know, whatever. It's hard to get
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: into these fertility clinics. I know women that are, they
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: cry every day. They can't have kids and they're trying
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: to get in and they can't afford it. They got
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: to raise enough money. And you're just walking in here, la-di-da-di-da.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: It's a TV show. I'm going to pretend to have,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: freeze my stuff. Like that is so effed up.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: And what did, do you have any knowledge of what
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: did happen? They never did make the embryos, right?
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Let's hope they didn't.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I should ask her that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's hope.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I just talked to her the other day.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I should ask her. Let's hope they didn't.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I hope not. For Ariana's sake. Because like I said.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Because now you have viable embryos, but it's with a
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: person you don't want to deal with. Like, I mean,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: do you remember the Sofia Vergara case? That was a
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: fucking nightmare. She made embryos with her ex.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And then they had a contract where if either one
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of us decide not to go forward, then they don't
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: get made. She gets married to the hot guy. What's
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: his name? Mangia, Nella, whatever his name. They don't want
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to have kids. They're like late 40s. They're done. She
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: already has a son from when she was 19. That
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: guy went to court everything trying to say, I want
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to raise those embryos so that he could hit her
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: with child support. And then she has two children out there.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a big nightmare. So it's like
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: you have to be really careful about. Whether you're going
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to have a child like by yourself with a donor
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: or somewhere where you like have complete control of it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Like look at, you know, Lala's awful situation, you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: or you're married and you're down and this is like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you know, but doing this, can you imagine if they
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: did go the next step and then she found out
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: about it or, or even went further and she was
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: carrying the baby.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Like, and just like, and like I said, taking a
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: step further as a woman.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: You are set into your ways, right? This is who
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: you are. And then you show a tiny bit of vulnerability, right?
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: By saying, you know what? I love this man. I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: going to do this. Then this happens. How does she
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: ever trust again? How do you go through? I'm looking
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: at from my point of view. She's a very strong girl.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: She can probably do it. But as of like, as
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at from in her shoes, like she took
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: all this time and finally said, okay, I'll do this
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: for him. And then gets let down like this. And
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: then How do you go back out there and be like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I have to trust again. I have to, you know.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So getting back to what you were hinting at.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time with that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: In your opinion, your opinion, you think, and we see
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: hints from the reunion, you think that there were several
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: random indiscretions on Tom Sandoval's part throughout the nine years.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I do believe that. I do.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I believe it too. I mean,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's very easy. A lot of girls are
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: very happy to hook up with someone and have no
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: strings attached, especially when it's like a good looking guy
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that they watch on the show.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Tom is very like, he comes home four o'clock in
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the morning, every, you know, every night, the guy can't
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: just sit home and watch a movie. Like I'm a homebody.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I don't like leaving my house. I like to sit
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: home and watch TV with my wife. We have movie nights.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Like he can't do that. Like he can't just sit
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: at home and watch a movie. He has to be out.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: He has to be drinking. He has to come home
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: at three or four in the morning. And mind you,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: as Ariana, right, she's sitting there. She's a homebody. She's like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: you know, me and Brittany. She likes to stay home
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and watch movies. So, mind you, she's getting Tom when
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: he comes home at 4 or 5 at night, drunk
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: as can be. That has to be miserable for her
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: every night.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: He's like, well, I have this time. I do come home.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, you come home at 4 or 5
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: in the morning and you're a hot mess, stinking like
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: cigarettes and beer. Like, who wants that?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: When he starts to, like, switch around, people were dying
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that he was saying, oh, I run the house. And she.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I make sure there's batteries and pens in the drawers
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't check on the toilet paper or whatever.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: That's the stuff you argue about when you're a child.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: No, the best part is I'm working on our love.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I go out and get her lattes. I was like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: are you fucking kidding me? I work on our love.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I go get lattes every morning. Like, oh my God.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: You do have a pretty good impression of him.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: He's just so like, because he's so dramatic. He's so dramatic.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Ariana, you don't know. You don't know what I've been
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: going through. You don't know. Like, it's just like, dude,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: enough with the act. You're a grown man. Like, you're
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: a grown man at this point. Well, you're supposed to
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: be a grown man that, you know, you own a
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: home together, you're this, and you're playing this, like, you're acting.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And then also, she goes something like, he goes, she goes, well,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: will you watch Blind Date or Love Island or whatever?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And he goes, no, that's your thing with, you know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: you do that with other people. She's like, with Logan?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Aren't they talking about Logan, the gay friend?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's her best friend.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I love Logan. Yeah. And I'm like, So now you're
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: going to try to give her shit that she's giving
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: too much attention to her platonic gay friend.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Over you while you're fucking her other best friend. Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Like she's not fucking Logan. Yeah. Like I was just like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, and honestly, that's like, that's relationship killer. One-on-one
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: owning a bar and being in a band. Like, uh, I,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't, have you ever met or heard
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: of anybody in your entire life being faithful who owns
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: a bar or in a band in your life?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: And he does both.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And does both. I mean, they're both, it's a, D-list
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: band and a D-list bar, but still, either way, it's still,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I feel bad for Schwartz, by the way, I shouldn't
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: say that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And how do you feel about Schwartz and their codependent
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: weird relationship?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: It's so not fair what he's doing to Schwartz. You
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: know what? The right thing would have been to do,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: everybody knows the right thing, Tom should have said, hey, listen,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and this is not the right thing to do.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Use your last names, otherwise it's too confusing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry. Schwartz should have said, hey, listen, you told me this,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: say it was Monday. Yeah. going to give you till
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Wednesday and I'm going to say something because not only
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: is this going to affect, you know, our friendship, but
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: this is going to affect our business, our finances, like
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: everything is going to, that's what should have happened. But
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: then again, Tom's not his father. He's like, he put
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: him between a rock and a hard place. Like, what
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: is he supposed to do? He's friends with Ariana. He's
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: friends with Sandoval. What is he supposed to do? Yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: he should have came clean, but then it's like, I
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: have a business to run. I got a million dollars
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: tied up in this. Is it going to affect this?
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: And Schwartz is already dealing with enough. He's got three
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: brothers that are struggling with alcoholism. He's got his dad
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: that's in and out of the hospital. Yeah. He's got
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: his dad that's in and out of the hospital. He's
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: got his mother that lives in South Carolina with his
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: other families in Florida. The guy's dealing with enough already.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know how he hasn't had like
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: a a stroke or a heart attack because he's dealing
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: with that. And then he comes back to LA finding
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: out that Sandoval is cheating on Ariana. It's going to
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: possibly affect his business that Tom Schwartz just put his
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: life savings in.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: When do you think Schwartz found out in your opinion?
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I think he's known for a couple months and I
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: talked to him about it all the time. He's like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I've known, I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: ask you when you knew. It was like, this is,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: I feel like, well, he's like, I've known for a while.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And he's like episode that we saw. which was that
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: they had the tasting first and then they went back
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: for Lisa's birthday. Right. That was like September, right? That's
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: before BravoCon.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Now there is, people said the reason they didn't go
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to the tasting is they found a photo. I saw
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: someone pull up a photo of, cause it was the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: same outfits of them and they're like weird, dumb and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: dumber outfits kind of. And he was with Joe and,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Who he dates now, right?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: No, he's not dating her.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, he was dating her for a minute, right?
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a whole other story. She showed up the
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: other night and we're like, what is she doing here?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Joe was a friend of Kristen's too.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's weird. She is weird.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And then became his roommate.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: She's like Kristen on crack. That's what she is. That's
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: what I call her. You're Kristen 2.0. Circa 2010. Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And she had written Katie like a really nice note
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: after that Katie and Schwartz broke up. And Katie shared
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it somewhere on her stories or whatever, being like, I'm
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: for you, I'm on your side, whatever. Then Joe moves
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: in to the other bedroom of the two-bedroom.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Apartment with Tom Ford. Right, because Tom can't be alone.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And then it appears that they, I guess, dated for
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: a minute. But it was Joe Schwartz, Sandoval, and Raquel
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: all went to this other guy's event before going to Sur,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: and that's why they didn't go to the tasting. So
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: people are like, they were on a double date. There
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: was also.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: They went on a ski trip together.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Not Bakersfield.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Big Bear. Big Bear.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: They went to Big Bear. So that's more than a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: few months ago, Jax. That's like always. So did Schwartz
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: know in September?
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I think he's known a lot longer than he's saying.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know the exact dates.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: September was a really long time ago.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I think he's known a lot longer than he's saying.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: But that whole trip to Big Bear, being out in
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the public like that, holding hands with another girl when
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: you're with her. People were going to see you. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: guess they got called out and they scammed out and
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: ran out of some restaurants when people called them out. Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, what are you doing? And the fact that
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Schwartz went along with this was kind of weird to me.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, you're allowing this to happen. You're kind
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: of enabling it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you know when that great scene where they were
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: in drag, did you get in drag too for that event?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Don't get me started on that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I will get you started on it. Who the fuck
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: idea was that?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I allowed that. Who do you
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: think's idea? Whose idea is it for all this crazy
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: shit that we do? Yes. He's the only one that
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: ever wants to do the drag thing. And I'm like, gee,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, why, why, why do we always have to
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: dress up every, no matter what we do, we go
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: get ice cream. Let's dress up and drag. Like we
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: don't need to dress up and drag. We're going to
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: get ice cream. Like, you know, we're going to blockbuster.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: You want to dress up and drag? No, we're going
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: to get a video. Like it's always the drag thing
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: with him, which I.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: How long is the drag thing going on?
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Going on for a very, very long time before the show.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Now, one of the, There are other questions.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not getting into that. I know where you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: going with this. I mean... I'm not going to say
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: it because I don't know and it's to each his own.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: So, whatever his sexual fluidity might be. Could be a
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: little more fluid than we know. Let's just say that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: So.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You guys have to get in drag. And that was for,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: was that Schwartz's bachelorette party? What was that for?
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Which one? My bachelorette party? You know, his bachelorette party?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: No, the one where they're, where he's.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: It was a random Sunday.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: The one where Scandival is half drag, like the wig
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: is off, but he still has like a wig cap
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: and he's crying.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's the bachelorette party. That's Tom Schwartz's bachelorette party,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: which was a nightmare, by the way.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And he and Kate are fighting and he goes, look
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: at him. Look at Schwartz. He's like a fucking battered wife.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: In all, in overanalyzing all this and going back, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: believe Schwartz is a battered wife, but Sandoval's the battering husband.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: A hundred percent. And Schwartz is very easily manipulated. He's
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: very easily talked into things. I feel like, and I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: talked to Schwartz the other day about this. I'm like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not going to get into this. I'm like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: you're getting it. You're my friend. I haven't seen him
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: in a while. And I say, let's go have a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: drink and let's go, whatever. And we went back to
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: his apartment. And we were just talking. I go, hey, listen,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell you how to run your life.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: You're a grown-ass man, but you've got to cut the ties, dude.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: You've got to cut the umbilical cord with Sandoval. He
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: is doing nothing but bringing you down, and you do
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: not deserve this. You're a good guy. People are seeing
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: you now and calling you names, and you're getting dragged
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: through the mud, and you literally have done nothing wrong.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Should you have said something sooner? Absolutely. But shoulda, woulda, coulda.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? You were between a rock
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: and a hard place. It wasn't your place, I don't think.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: It was his place. He should have said it. He
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: literally told everybody but Ariana. I think Kyle Chan knew.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I think a bunch of people knew.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Who's Kyle Chan?
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: The jewelry guy. The jewelry guy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: And that's whose event they were at.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think he's told a lot of people.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: He should have just told Ariana and stopped telling everybody else.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Did the Chan guy give the lightning bolt necklaces? And
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: then we see that she buys the lightning bolt necklace.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Where did she get $ 800 from?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Why are there rumors that she's worth $ 30 million on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the internet? Have you seen that?
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: $ 30 million?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, if you look up her net worth.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Did you see her apartment?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: No, there's no way.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's worth $ 30 million.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's why when people bring that up, I'm like, that
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: has been debunked. That's like a weird, like, urban myth.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. No, that's not true at all. I hope
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: she's getting the help that she needs, though. I mean,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: if that's the case, if people, again, I don't really.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: know what's going on with her personally, but if it
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: is a mental health situation and I hope she's not
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: just going to a hotel and quote unquote saying that
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I'm in a mental health. Uh, that's what I've heard too,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: that she's just staying in a hotel and telling people
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: that she's got mental health problems. And she's also using
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: other people's other women who do struggle with mental health.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: She's saying, I agree. And I understand she's kind of
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: using this as a, a scapegoat. I hope that's not
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: the case. I hope if she does have something that
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: she really is getting help and not just using this
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: as a, Ooh, this could be a way out. You
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: In, Shorts' defense of keeping his mouth shut for so long.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I think that, don't you think that Sandoval probably said
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to him, look, the plan is we're going to be
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: done with filming soon. We'll do the reunion. Then on
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the break, you know, on the hiatus, I will break
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: up with Ariana. And, you know, and then when I
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: start dating Raquel, no one will know, you know, that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: we dated before.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's how it went?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's what he told Schwartz to keep Schwartz
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: quiet because he's like, look, if we can't find out now,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it'll be more hurtful to find out on camera or whatever.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Let me break up with her not on camera when
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: we're on hiatus. That will be less painful to Ariana.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: So you just keep your mouth shut. That's what I
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: think he told Schwartz.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I could see that. I could see that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I can see, like I said, Sandoval manipulates the hell
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: out of Schwartz. That is a fact. He will do
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: whatever he says. And that's why I said, you got
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: to cut ties. This is not making any situation easier.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: This is not healthy for you, for anybody. Like this is. Yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: But if he cuts ties, I mean.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: He has to cut ties. He doesn't have like, they're
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: going to lose the bar. They're going to lose everything.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: People are going to the restaurant. People are saying it's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: like packed.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I went there Thursday night. There was five people there.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: This was 1030 at night. There was five people there. Oh.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: And the bar manager, the owner, they can't stand Sandoval.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: They don't want him there anymore. They want to buy
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: him out. This is all, I'm hearing this. This is
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: all people, things are saying.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: So, all right, let me ask.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: So again, and it's not cheap to have a bar
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: in LA. You got rents, you got overhead, you got employees.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why, I mean, I understand.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: How are you footing the bill for this? Who's paying
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: for this? And then I know, I also know that
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: he borrowed, Tom Sandoval borrowed like 200 grand from his mom, his,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: her retirement fund. So you like knowing this in the
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: back of your head, you have all this money tied
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: up and all this, knowing that this could jeopardize your business,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: your mom's financial status, your best friend's financial status. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you still decided to do this.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think it's the ultimate narcissistic move.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: It's.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, listen, can I make it very clear, by the way,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I have no leg to stand on when it comes
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to being an asshole. I've made my fair share of mistakes. I,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: you know, I, I've cheated as well. I think the
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: difference is, is the way he went about this and
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: the way his lack of empathy and just the whole
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: affair thing. You know, like I said, everybody on the
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: show has cheated or done something wrong. It was silly.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: You know, whatever. But it's never gone like to this.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of why it's gone on
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: so long. Do you think? Because I'm trying to wrap
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: my head around the fact that why this has gotten
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: so big.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Asking you a guy who's a recovering... Scumbag. Yes. When
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: you do cheat on a girlfriend and your cheatings that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: were featured... were essentially one night stand type of things.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: So when you're entering that moment of, I'm going to have,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to sleep with this other person and I
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: have this girlfriend at home and I've had a few drinks.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: How does a guy like you How do you justify
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: it in your brain? How do you compartmentalize?
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you how I was. I was
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: going through hell at that time. I was going through
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: just some personal demons and I was insecure as all hell.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I hated who I was. Living in this life out here,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: am I good enough? Am I still good enough? I
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: just didn't like the person I was. And it had
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with the person who I hooked up
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: with at the time. And I'm not going to say
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: who it was. It could have been a hole in
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: the wall. It didn't matter who it was. It was
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: just whoever was you know, there. And it just, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: I knew going in, this is, this is a bad,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: but I just, I hated myself at the time. You know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: as you guys know, I've been on the show, I've
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: been to therapy millions of times, nothing worked. I just
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: didn't like who I was. And again, I was just
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: a very self-destructive person. And I thank God, thank God
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: that my now wife is just an amazing woman and
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: stuck by me and said, listen, you know, I know
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: you didn't do this just to hurt me. This is
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: something that you're going through and we're going to get
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: through this together. And, you know, I think we fixed it. And,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I, it didn't just happen overnight. I had
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: to work my ass off to get my wife back,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: work my ass off, you know, and I didn't like
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: who I was at the time. Let's just make it
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: very clear. I didn't like who I was. And I
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: was insecure. I was very insecure. And it was like,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't, I was just going through a lot of
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: things personally. I'm not trying to justify it, but people
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: ask why you did what you did. And I'm telling
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: you the reasons why I did what I did. And I,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I just didn't like myself. And like I said, I,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I had a, I have a very strong, strong woman
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: in my corner, like very, very strong. And she saw
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: the bigger picture and she knew this is not him.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: He's going through something. And she's like, we're going to
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: work on this, but I'm going to make his ass
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: work for it. And she did. And she did.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I think, I think in, in your
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: case and in many guys, and I've said this before, it,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: it isn't about the girl. your partner that you're cheating on.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: And oftentimes it's not the girl that you're having the
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: indiscretion with. It is your own insecurity and your ego boost.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Someone strokes your ego. And at that time you're insecure
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: enough that you need it. You need, you take it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And it's, it is really about you. And, you know,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: and oftentimes with girls that are the one, like, sleeping
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: with the guy who's connected to someone they know, whether
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it's personal or famous. That oftentimes the girl is kind
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: of obsessed with, I mean, whether you're watching Fatal Attraction
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever, where someone wants the life that this other
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: woman has. It's not even about the guy. It's like, ooh,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you know, like I fucked, you know, back in the day,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I fucked Lamar Odom. You know, he was fucking me
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and he's married to a Kardashian. That makes me like
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: one step closer to it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: You know, and I think there's that. And then you
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: add an element of the fame and like with Raquel,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if she even went this deep,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: but it's not only her ego, if we're going to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: talk about Raquel, her ego was getting boosted by Tom
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: wanting to be with her. But then also- being friends
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: with Ariana, like being like, wow, here's this prettier, sexy,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: more mature, more like, been on the show forever girl.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, today.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: And no, I think that's what, the fact that Ariana
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and Raquel were so close and were friends and like,
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: she was sleeping over at their house in her bed
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: for so long and the sleepovers and the skinny dipping
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: and the hot tubs, like it went to a whole
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: different level. It wasn't just a, you know, a little
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: thing here. This was like a whole going on for
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: so long. And I think obviously that's why This has
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: put everything else that's happened on Vanderpump Rules on the
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: back burner because this is pretty intense and it's pretty...
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, I got to say with the way social
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: media is nowadays and everything, the fact that they kept
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: it a secret for so long, as you know, it's impossible.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: I think it's impossible to cheat nowadays. It's impossible.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's for the same reason that even,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you know, even though Lala on the show had moments
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: on camera where she's like, I think things are up.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the season ended and nothing was
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: exposed about the affair.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: That's because they never talked about it. Even this going
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: around in the show, Sandoval was very like, I'm not
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: talking about my relationship. He would never talk about it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Never talk about he and Ariana.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he never talked about he and Ariana. And I
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: had arguments about this off camera with production. This is bullshit.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: We're on a reality show together. He always gets away
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: with not talking about his personal things. He can always
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: just scapegoat it and go into everybody else's and tell
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: everybody else how to act. But he never dove into
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: the relationship. And I said this many, many times. He
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: never got into him and Ariana's relationship. He would always
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: just go right over it. Like, oh, we're perfect. We're perfect.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: We're perfect. And always just go into everybody else's. And
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I said this for years that this shit's not fair.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: We're all in this together. We're all making X amount
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: of dollars. You need to put in the work too.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: It's not fair.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: And I always say that too about a reality show.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: When someone shares everything, their cracks, their therapy, their fucked
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: up family, whatever. And then someone doesn't, the reason why
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: it does make people like you that exposed every bad
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: thing about yourself on the show, why it would make
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you resentful. I'm like, it's like if you all worked
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: at a factory and you're working from eight to seven
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and Tom Sandoval is leaving at noon and not coming
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: back after lunch. That's why people are like, that's why
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: people then sometimes want to call out that person. On
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the show and why they get resentful.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: And I think they are now. I think they finally,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: finally are. And everyone's like, are you having this redemption moment?
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: And I, I, I, of course I, I smile a
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: little bit, a little bit more because of what's going
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: on because I, for so long, I was always looked
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: as the bad guy because they would just go, you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say ride my coattails, but no
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: matter what they have done, I would Trump that no
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: matter what I did, it would always be talked about
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: and magnified. Do you know what I'm saying? No matter,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: you know, what was going on in the show. If
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: they did something wrong, it wasn't talked about as much
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: as compared to what I did. So I think the
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: fact that we're now, I'm not on the show anymore.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Now all this stuff's being exposed and that's what I think.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And you went and he did end up going to
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: your wedding, right? But he wasn't in or he wasn't.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I got forced into that. That was not, that was
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: not my choice. My wife sat me aside and goes, listen,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: you will regret this if you don't have them and not,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: And I was just like, I don't, I don't want
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: him there, but I couldn't have Ariana there if I
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: didn't have Tom there. And Brittany was like, I really
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: want Ariana there. So if you have Ariana there, then
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: you have to have Tom. So I'm like, this is
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: my wife's wedding. This is her wedding. I want her
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: to be very, very happy. So I'm just going to,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: you know, bite the bullet.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Do you think at that time, Tom Sandoval knew that you,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: there was no coming back that you knew who he was?
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Or do you think he thought, oh, he'll get over
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: this and we'll be buddies again?
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he'll just like, yeah, typical Jax. He'll just,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: you know, sweeping under the rug. And, you know, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: for my wife and to make her happy, I did
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: what I needed to do. And I invited him, you know, like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: you know, what was the point? I just make, I
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: just want my wife to be happy. And I want
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Ariana to be at the wedding because I liked Ariana.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: I just didn't want him there. I just, I just,
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: he's a, he's a slime. He's just, he's like, what
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: do you, was James call him a worm? He's a
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: worm snake. He's just very, like, he's just very manipulative.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And so after the wedding, did you guys ever really hang?
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: And if the show was to come back, um, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: invite you to be back on as a regular, would
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you film with him?
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: It's the million dollar question. I don't know.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I think. I'm like, I got to.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Discuss it with people. Uh, if it were to happen,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: I'd have to discuss it. And if, if it would
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: make sense, um, I'm in such a different place right now.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I'm so happy. I have a beautiful wife. I have
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: a beautiful child. Uh, you know, we're just so good
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: right now and things are so great. I don't, I
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: don't know if I want to disrupt that. You know
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? It's like, I haven't felt this good
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: about myself. I'm getting emotional about this. I haven't felt
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: this good about myself in so long. I haven't. I've
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: always had these demons on my shoulder all the time.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: And I just, I feel so good about myself. And
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: it's so, it's just refreshing. It's a great feeling, you know?
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: And like I said, it's, I'm not having my aha moment.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I just, I just feel good. And like, so if
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I dive back into this, I have to make sure
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: that it makes sense for me, my family, um, my friends,
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: you know, I had to repair a lot of friendships, Lala, Sheena, Ariana, uh, Schwartz, Katie,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have to repair, I had to repair
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of damage that I've done over the years. So,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: and I'm finally at a place where I'm like 95% there.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: There's still a couple of people that I need to
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: smooth over a little bit, uh, Stassi Bo. Uh, but
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: other than that, um, I, I, I'm just in a
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: really good place. So, If I were, I'm not saying
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: I am, to come back to the show, I would
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: have to discuss it with my friends and my family first.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: And if they thought it was a good idea, then okay.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: But that's the way I'd have to deal with that.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: If that makes sense. What do you think?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it totally makes sense. And, I mean, like,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: as someone who watches a show and someone who's real,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: what I think makes this show so interesting and always
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: has been, is that you guys are real friends. You
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: have real history. But I, you know, I do believe
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that people can reflect and change. And I find it's like, psychologically,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: this show is extremely intriguing. Like this could be a
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: college course. Like this, I will not be surprised if
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: like in communications and sociology classes in the future, people
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: will reference this like a time in history. 100%. that
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: we could actually watch it happen and watch the relationships
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I talked to colleges about this already in
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: the past. I've gone to colleges and people ask questions.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: How does this work? Why is your show so successful?
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Why is your show better than everybody else's show? And
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: I have one word. It's organic. This wasn't a casted show.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: This wasn't, Susie, I need you to make out with Jeff. Jeff,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: you need to cheat on Kathy. Kathy, you need to
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: be best friends with her, but you got to pretend
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: like you got... This show already existed.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Or even that they do a casting of like, we
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: want to do a show about a bunch of waiters. Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: And we want to make sure that there's one person
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: from this part of town, one person that's cis sexuality,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: one person that, you know, like they didn't. You guys
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: were actually friends, which made it so brilliant.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: And when they start to alter that, which they have
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: started to do a little bit on Vanderpump Rules, they
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: start adding people that aren't necessarily friends. Because you see, like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: people aren't stupid. Fans of the show love the show.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: They know when the taping's over, everyone's at my house.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: They still are. My house is the central location where
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: everybody goes. And then you're like, well, how come this
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: person's not there? Well, how come this person's on the show,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: but they're not over? Because they have to, because the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: show's been on so long that sometimes they have to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: add other people. And there's new people that are going
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: to come into the group, such as Allie, by the way,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: James' new girlfriend, Allie. I think she's a sweetheart. I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: think she's a beautiful person.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very likable.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: But there is some people that are on that are like,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: what is she doing there? Well, you know what? I'm
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: not going to say names.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: No offense to Charlie. Okay, that's... Like, she's a cute girl.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: But I don't understand it.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: But literally, when she was buying.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Never seen her once in my life.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: When she was buying the necklace, it took me a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: minute and I go, wait a minute, that's not Allie.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: Who the fuck is.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I forgot because also... Hey, she wasn't involved in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: the storyline either. So when they were editing, there was
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: nothing that happened with her. It's not her fault.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure she's like a cool person.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure she is.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: But like, it just doesn't really make sense in the show.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: It doesn't.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: It doesn't.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: And that's why she's not featured as much, you know, because,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: you know, you, yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I just think for being on the show for so long,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: the show's gone so long, people, real people know who's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: friends and who's not. So when you throw in like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: just some random person, you're like, this isn't real. Like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And speaking of which, do you think Billy Lee? who
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: was only on for a short period of time, ever
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: hooked up with Sandoval? Sheena believes so.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Yes. Sheena said yes? Okay, then I'll say yes.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Sheena said it on her show.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: On her podcast.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. If you're asking my opinion, yes, I do. Yes, 100%.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And so recently they showed her leaving his place.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Saw that.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think she called the paparazzi or do you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: think she stayed and... Two things could be true.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: At the same time. You know, I wouldn't put it
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: past her. But again, I don't know her that well,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: but I don't know. I don't know. They're all a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: sneaky bunch, man. They really, really are. I don't know
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: what's going on. You know, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Do you think it'll come out? It'll eventually come out.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: But do I? Yes, I think they hooked up. Okay.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of think so. I mean, I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: think there was chemistry and a friendship. And I mean,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I just, I think, you know, I wouldn't be surprised
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: if in, if show comes back, Sandoval's still on it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: It will be, I'm a sex addict.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Curious.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: That'll be the next thing that he kind of explores
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: in therapy or whatever. Does he have some type of,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Why does he do the things he does? Which can
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: be really interesting for people at home. If we really
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: went through it, it's sort of explored.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's a sex addict. I think he's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: an attention addict.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I think he needs a lot of attention.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: He needs the focus to be on him. He needs
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: to be the life of the party. He needs to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: be putting on the biggest show. He needs that. That's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: his drug of choice is attention. I don't know if
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: it's sex per se or controlling. He can control Raquel.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: He's very Ariana. You can't control. She's a very strong individual.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: She will not be told what to do for Kel.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: You can tell her to do anything. She'll do it.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Especially now you have Tom.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Telling you, do you think there's any chance that they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: will continue to see each other and date?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: And that's a great question. I don't, I don't know.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know what? Now I'm watching it too.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: And now he's doing these concerts and kind of poking.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: It's really disturbing.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: So I'm fun and saying Raquel is not for me. Like, dude,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: you're disgusting. That's disturbing. Like you've already laid the ground
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: for what you've done. Now you're just digging it deeper.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Like you're poking fun of the fact that you did
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: this for so long against Ariana. Mind you, Ariana's doing
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: fine and she looks happier. But still, like you're still
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: like digging at it and like poking fun of something
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: so personal. Like you're singing about it and then adding
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: your best friend's name in it. Like that is where
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: it's starting to get. Now it's like, dude, you need help.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: You need help now.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: It's gone one far. Now you're taking it such a
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: step further that now it's like getting part to like, well,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: you're making fun and you're trying to make a buck
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: off this. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like it's,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: you're trying to keep it going maybe. I don't know.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: But what do you think? Don't you think that's really
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: disturbing to throw her in this, change the lyrics of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: a song and Raquel is not for me.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: And he had the lightning bolts on either side. I'm like, listen,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I think now he has come to the place where like.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Do you think he's starting to lose it?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I think he's starting to lose it in a sense,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: but I also think he's like, now let me take
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the lemons and make my own lemonade. And now let
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: me try to profit off this because everyone's so obsessed
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: with it. And if I say, I mean, it was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: kind of smart because if he said it, then that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: went viral. That little video went viral. I saw it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: People talk about it. And even though, you know, people
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: are like the show sucks and whatever, there's enough interest
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: that people might go, let's fucking just go for the.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Fuck of it.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Like there might be some, you know, Bravo fans that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: But the tickets are free now, right? So basically they're
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: buy one, get one free. Are people going? I don't know.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But listen, I know as a standup
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and sometimes when I do my live Juicy Scoops, And
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I get, you know, if I bring a couple more people,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it's more, I make less. Right. If it's just me alone,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: he's got a whole band. That's why he's probably having
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: financial trouble.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: It's a nine-person band.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Venmo everybody?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: No, exactly. I mean, even when Luann started her cabaret thing,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: she had a lot more people. Now she's tapered it down.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: You have to think about how you have all the,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: and then you have bands.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Travel, hotels, equipment.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Lighting this and that. And yeah, I, I don't, I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know how, how it works.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I don't, I mean, it's probably not profitable, but he's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: going to, he's going to, you know, see out these dates.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. So it'll be, you know, really, um,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: crazy to see. Now we're going to play the dog.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Okay. Is this the pre, uh, the, uh, this was.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: The craziest story. Outrageous. Devastating.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Insane.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Randall Emmett is sketch at best.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Randall Emmett, Hollywood movie producer.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Lola Kent, reality star. Vanderpump Rules.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: The lifestyle, the Rolls Royces, the Jets.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: You paid so much just to have status.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Vanderpump Rules, it's about these young, hot 20-somethings. This is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: the juiciest time in reality show history. How could I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: not have been smarter? Like, I beat myself up daily.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: How is my daughter having to pay for my stupidity
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: and me keeping my blinders on and not wanting to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: see red flags?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: The Randall Scandal.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Love, loathing, and Vanderpump.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Wow. Wow. Wow. Holy cow. So, I mean, you guys. Well,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: do you want to hear my side of the story
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: on this?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely want to hear your side.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Well, he owes me money. I make it very clear
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: on my podcast and I'm going to keep making it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: very clear on my podcast. He owes me $ 75, 000 and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I'm going to explain to you why he owes me $ 75, 000.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: I was doing bridge loans with Randall before COVID. You know,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: I would invest some money and then he'd promise me
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: certain back and it was working out for the first
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: three movies. Everything was fine. Then the last movie I did,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: I invested $ 100, 000. COVID happened. Movie didn't happen. Okay, no problem.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Can I have my money back and I'll reinvest again
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: when COVID's over. I don't have the money right now.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: Why don't you have the money if there's no movie happening?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll call you back. This and that.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: And then this started happening. Now, I am not a studio.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not Disney. I'm not Paramount. I am a family
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: guy that has a mortgage, that has a family, that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: has to put food on the table. So this is
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: a big deal to me. These studios can recoup that.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: A hundred grand is nothing to them. I'm a family
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: guy and I'm your friend. I'm the only one, the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: only one that has stood by you through all this crap.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: When Lala like wasn't going to be my friend anymore.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: When nobody was going to talk to me anymore because
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: I was friends with you, Randall, because I thought you
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: were a nice guy. You were nice to me. And
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: we were making money together. And I thought, okay, this
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: is okay. But then, you know, and all these... I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: would get hit up all the time by LA Times.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: All these people, do you want to do a story
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: on Randall? Did you hear about Randall? People telling me,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: do not invest with Randall. Do not. I didn't get
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: my money back. Multiple people. There's another one that just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: came out last week. Another guy, I can't say his name,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: from Miami said, he's delinquent and paying me now. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: this was last week. And I'm like, you know, people,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: you know... they told me and I didn't listen, but
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: I thought I saw a good human being in there somewhere.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know how, but I just thought, you know,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: this is another way of making some extra income, you know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: and to pay my bills. And I got screwed. He
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: hasn't paid me back yet. And he's doing another movie
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: and he's like, well, I'll pay you on the next movie. Well,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: you're on movie number two and I haven't seen a check.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: And every time now his lawyer won't get back to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: my lawyer. And it's just, it's just a mess. Like
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: just pay me what you owe. You're taking from a
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: family guy. Like I'm trying to pay my mortgage. I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: ain't trying to go buy planes and buy cars. I'm
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: trying to put food on the table. You know, I'm
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: making a little extra money so my kid can go
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: to college. Like, stuff like that. Like, I just don't
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: get it. so where did the money.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Go right so you guys met as i did through
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: social stuff right but you at the foursome you guys
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: hung out a lot right and and had a lot
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: of fun and everything and i remember when we hung
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: out that night and went to the coachella party right
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: That was really fun. And you were like, no, we're
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: looking at property together out here and everything. So when
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you first heard about the photo of him walking across
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: the street with the girls, did you think for sure
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: he's cheating? Because I didn't. I actually thought this is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: just someone got a photo of him walking across with
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: some girls, like, you know, but then all of a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: sudden it was just like, all of a sudden it
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: all came out after that. But part of that, I thought, No,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: this is just, you know, people wanting to insert themselves
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: in this story.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: I think so too. I don't know what we're allowed
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: to say, what we're not allowed to say, especially with
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: him owing me money. I don't want to get myself
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: in trouble here because I'm trying to like, I'm just
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: trying to recoup my money here.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: But, you know, I was wrong. I was 100% wrong.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I trusted the wrong person. I thought, you know, we
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: had a good business deal going. And like I said,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: it was working for a while. And like I said,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know what he did with my money. I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: don't know what he's done with anybody's money. I don't
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: know where it went. It might be in his house.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I think he over... and tries to live out of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: his means, you know, to look cool, I guess. I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: don't know, but it's just really disturbing, you know, especially
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: you have daughters. You have three daughters. And guess what?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: The internet is never going to go away. They are
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: going to read this one day. They are going to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: see this. You're going to have to explain yourself one day.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Just like I'm going to have to explain myself one day. But,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: you know, I just don't know how.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just remembering a story that happened. So he... I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: was seeing... something come, someone let me know that, uh, this,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: this girl that has a podcast to Dana, she was $ 25, 000
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: sunglasses from Beverly Hills. Anyway, she started to, now she
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: has a podcast, but at the time she was just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: spewing on Instagram and she was saying Randall owed her $ 5, 000
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: for many years ago. And anyway, then she came on
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: my show and he saw that she was coming on
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: my show and he, and this is what everybody's good.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Like we're at Lala's in love with them. There's, I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was before or after COVID, but
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I was planning on going to the wedding.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: So something was, you know, and, and I go, I go, listen,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I did talk to her. I did not put it
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: on the show, but can you give her her 5,000 back?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: You do owe her from this thing that she did.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: It was a Cannes Film Festival thing that, you know,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: he promised that he would get this room on a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: yacht and then like, just, just blew her off. But
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: that also said, okay, I've got your money. Come to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: the office. Did a run around to get the money.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's how I got my first portion. I had
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: to do the run around. Meet me here. Then we
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: get there. Meet me there. No, meet me there. No,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: meet me here. Now I don't have the money. Come
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: to my house. Like every time I was going out,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: it was a cat and mouse game.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Chasing me around. And I was like, that's kind of shitty,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: like the run around. And I go, I'm going to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: put you together. And, you know, if you give her
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the money, like she's never going to talk about it.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to talk about it.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: She's not rolling in and she would like the money.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: So he did. And that was that she went on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: to do her thing. We never talked about it. So
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: then when all this stuff started to happen, you know,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow. And then there was a Megan
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Weaver story, Megan Weaver and Jeff Lewis did interior design
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: for his home and he owed her money. And not
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: until she talked about it, I think on Jeff Lewis, finally, then,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: then they got the money, but it was still not
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: the full amount that she was supposed to get. And
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: it was like, Okay. So, okay. Some people, you know,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: it's not cool when someone has a pattern like that,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: but it is a pattern. It's like.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm just as the blame. I'm the idiot that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: didn't do my research. And I was, I'm the sucker
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: that said, you know what? He wouldn't do that to me.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: He's never done that to me. And then he did
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: it to me.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he is so charming and he is like,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and that's what it is. It's charming and fun and. and,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: you know, and great and all that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But I'm not, like I said, he borrows mostly
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: from studios and, you know, multimillionaires. I just thought, Hey,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: this is maybe a nice way to make some extra
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: money while, you know, I've looked for my next thing.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: And he promised me this and he's, he goes, my
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: mom's doing it too. You're going to be on the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: same scale as my mom and this and that. So
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I mean, he's not gonna do
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: this to me. I think we're really close friends. We
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: go out to dinner, you know, he tells me a
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: lot of things. And I just thought, I guess I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: thought wrong. I was just an idiot. Like everybody else.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: I just, I believed them.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: And I thought when, when it broke and, and Lala
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: was no longer with him.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: You still had this business going on. So you're like,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: so you're like, okay, well let me just like roll
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: this a little bit longer.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: I know. And I was like, well, I'm sorry. Obviously
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: I have to finish this because he, and while I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: was like, you're never going to get your money back.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: That guy's always everybody in, in, in their brother right now.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I have to try. I go, I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: have to try. I go, I feel like he's, he
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: knows me a little bit better than that. I'm not
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: a studio. I'm, his friend. I'm the guy that he
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: would call in the middle of the night when he
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: has problems. I thought we were closer. I just, I just,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess I'm, I'm just an idiot.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: I'm an idiot because I thought we were friends. I
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: really did.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I also think he's one of those people that makes
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: several people feel like they're that person that calls in
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night because he was calling me.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Hey, what do you think I should do? Do you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: think I should do this? I look up to you.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you look up to me. It made me
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: feel good. I'm like, yeah, I haven't heard it. You're
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: older than I am. And you're a fan. I just
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: thought that was really cool for him to write. And
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: I was falling into his manipulation. I was like, okay.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: All right. He's like, okay, I'll get you this next month.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: And it made me feel good. So I'm like, okay,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: it bought him some more time. Hey, you want to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: put me in? And what he does is he puts
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: you in a movie. And then, okay, that buys him
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: more time so he doesn't have to pay you back.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: And that's what he was doing.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Did you get put in some movies?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I got put in a couple of them.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: And he was like, you know, he's like, okay. He's like, well, okay,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: this will buy me some time so I don't have
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: to pay him for another month. But I never got
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: paid for many of those movies either. Are you going
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: to pay to act in them? Oh, no.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: I was supposed to. Never did.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: They didn't turn in the paperwork to SAG or whatever.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: There was some BS reason and I was just kind
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: of like.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Just the runaround.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Just the runaround. Just add it to the list of
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: BS things you've done to me. I'm like, how do
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: you do this to somebody? Especially he was like. A
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: guy who's like has a family and, you know, putting,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: you know, that's, that's the part I have a problem with.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Like I said, people do it to studios all the time,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: but you do it to your friend, like your actual
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: friend who you call in the middle of the night
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: when you have a problem. Like you are just, that's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: a bad person.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I hope you get your money back.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I hope because you're, You know, saying it publicly, you've
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: jumped to the top of the list.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: I just don't know what else to do anymore. Like,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, it's not like it's 20 grand.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: It's there. Even that, even it is, it's money, you know, it's.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, you know, you're not going to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: keep the secret.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to keep the secret anymore. And like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I told him that I go, listen, Randall, like, you know,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: people are coming to me. I told him this. I go,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: LA times is coming to me. This Hulu documentary is coming.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: Everyone's coming to me to talk. And I go, just
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: pay me the money and then I'll go away. Okay.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: He's like, well, you got to talk to my lawyer.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Now my lawyer talks to his lawyer. Now his lawyer
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: is ghosting mine. So it's just kind of like- But again,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: why do you have to talk to his lawyer? Like
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: why does a lawyer have to be involved? Yeah, so
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: you're going to pay more money. Basically, instead of just
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: paying it off, you got to go through another lawyer.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Like you have to pay these people. Lawyers want their money.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: They're going to come after it. So you're paying more
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: money for this. I think it was just- Just do
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: the right thing.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: It was just, again, a runner. It was just a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: buy time.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: And I know he's got the money. He's got the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: three or four cars that he's got. He's got the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: house in Bel Air. So he's got it there. He's
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: got it. It's not like he's- And he's got a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: new girlfriend that he's buying handbags for and going to Miami. Like,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: so it's not like he's like hurting by any means
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: or he's, I don't know what he's doing. I don't know.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, that must be so frustrating. And I know
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: people see it and I know people see it on
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: a non-public basis. Leveled and they just lent money to
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: their friend and they just see their friend on Instagram.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: And you're like, you still owe me a grand bitch.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Like I get it now on your scale. It's like, wow.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: $ 75, 000. It's a lot of money. Yes, it is. You know?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: And I got 25. And like I said, it was
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: a cat and mouse game to get that, you know.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: It was just the exhaustion of chasing.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: I had Brittany in the car. He was like, meet
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: me at this place. Meet me at Ralph's. Meet me
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: at Gelson's. Meet me at the cafe. And then I
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: get the check and it's scribbled and it's not right.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: And then I had to go to the bank and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: I had to redo it again because he, he, He
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: did it scribbly so nobody can know it. And I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: have to go back and do it again. And I'm like...
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: It was just like.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: An all plan. All a plan. Of course.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: Why? Why? Why? I don't understand. This is why you
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: have a bad name for yourself.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: It's the run around that I think is the rudest
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: part of it all.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: The wasting your time of like that. Because I'm like...
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: i've heard of what people do with that you know they.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Do borrow peter to pay paul type of thing.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah or on the check it's the you know the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: wrong the wrong date or the wrong thing or that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: yeah where they're like wow this is too much we
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: can't do that can you just you know and it's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: like oh man god my stupid assistant you.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Know yeah exactly let's.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Talk about croy and uh kim zolciak well croy burman
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: the burmans are getting divorced we know now that they
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: both Filed. He, in fact, filed first. Then she filed,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: but she probably alerted TMZ, so it looked like she did.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: She had photographs of her picking up the kids. They
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: both want the kids. Custody of the kids.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: They seem so happy together on social media, no?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Well, of course. I think what is really hard is
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: when your whole livelihood, especially them, is about, we're this
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: happy family. They had the reality show about their happy family.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, she was always doing the long diatribe of like
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: how great he is and that he does everything for
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: her and everything. And then, of course, on top of it, too,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: overspending and also part of their persona is being super
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: luxury spenders. You know, their their persona was not let
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: me show you the best deals at Costco. Their persona
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: was the latest handbag, the Louis Vuitton luggage, everything. I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: just saw a clip of where both she and the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: oldest girl are talking about how they spend, now that
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: the other girl, Ariana, is into getting her hair and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: makeup done. She's like, we spend $ 4, 000 to $ 8, 000 a
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: day on glam for the three of us. We all
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: wear wigs now, which I'm like, what? are two girls
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: that don't have you know hair issues wearing a fucking
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: seven thousand dollar wig to go and do an instagram
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: post like where do you go from there like when
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: you start you're at that level then Where are you
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: going to go? What are your thoughts on them?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: To be honest, Kim's always been so kind to Brittany
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: and I. Every time we see her at a problem event,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: she's just like, I love you guys. She always seems
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: like a real person to me. I don't know what
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: everybody else sees, but every time I do a post
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: on Instagram, she messaged me, love you guys. You guys
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: look great. When I heard that this came out, I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: messaged her, I hope everything's okay. Did she respond? Thinking
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: about you. Yeah, she's like, thanks, sugar. I don't know
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: what goes on at my enclosed doors. We don't. And
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: I just see how she acts to me. I'm a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: very like, face value person. How you act to me
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: is how I'm going to treat you. And like, she's
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: been nothing but kind to us, especially at all the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Bravo cons and all that. She's the first one to
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: be like, I love you both. Brittany's so great. She's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: so beautiful. You guys are so good together. She's just
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: so kind and sweet to us. I just hope the
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: best for her. I, like I said, this was a
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: shock when I did see this because of the persona
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: they put on Instagram. I just thought, man, this is
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: a great couple. Like he's always out in the backyard
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: doing stuff kind of like me. I was like, well, okay,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: this is, I hope people don't think about this like
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: that with us.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I definitely think both things are true.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I think they're both good parents.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: And I think all of that.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: Do you think, so it seems like it's pretty, it's amicable.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: No, it's not amicable at all.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: I thought maybe, okay, I thought, this is what I'm thinking. No.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: From what I see, it's a financial thing. So there's that, okay,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: maybe we should split to ease the pain or no?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, Do you think he's more mad at her
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: or she's more mad at him?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. Everyone's speculating. They're like, is this fake? Is this
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: to get on another show? Is it for her to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: have a deal?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: Well, she's going back to Housewives.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Today, the latest article from a very close friend from
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Page Six says she is not at all thinking about
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: going back to Housewives. She shared with friends months and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: months prior that she was thinking about leaving. Yes, the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: money stuff didn't help, but that's not the only reason.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: And that there is no other guy because there was
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: rumors that there was some guy in L.A., some rich, older,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: you know, big papa type guy. This person saying, no,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: that's not true. I don't think anybody knows but them.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: But, you know, hopefully I can't imagine that you would
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: do a fake divorce when you have four minor kids
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: that are elementary age. Yeah. To get on TV. So
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't believe it's fake. I can't, because you can't
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: tell your four kids that are like in fourth and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: fifth and sixth grade. Hey, if anyone asks you about
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: our divorce, just say, hey, I'm sad.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Because mom and daddy are actually getting back together and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: we're going to be a daddy, father party. Like there's
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: no way.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: I just hope people are nice to the kids because
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: like I said, they're at that age where they're just
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: kind of like, what is going on? Like they don't
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: understand it. I just hope they're okay.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: When people think that it's fake, I'm like, I can't,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: you can't do that with four other people. If it
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: was just the two of you.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Then maybe you can have a weird like cahoots, you know, like, okay.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Like the Stallones.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: They said they were getting divorced. Sly Stallone and his wife.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: And it was like, wow, they're getting divorced after all
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: these years. They have three gorgeous daughters. Then it turns out, no,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: we're not getting divorced. And by the way, we have
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: a reality show and we filmed this. Okay. Now you
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: have three 25 year old daughters, whatever, that want to
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: be the Kardashians to them. You could go, we're going
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: to fake a divorce. We're going to film this. We're
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: going to act like dad's really mad. Then he's going
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: to come back. This is going to get us PR.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: And then the show is going to be a hit.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Like you could say it to your 25 year old
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: kids that this is like not a hundred percent true.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Don't freak out.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: You can't, you can't fake this with like, that would
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: be so cruel to do to a little kid. So I,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: unfortunately it sounds like this is not amicable.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: But maybe, maybe there is a chance they could get
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: back together, but, I would say no.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: That's sad. Anytime people go through divorces, it sucks, especially
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: when there's kids involved, especially being a parent now. You
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: just want to protect your kids at all costs.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: So I watch everything on Housewives and all that and
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: all your shows. And I just want to say about
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: this show last night, Real Housewives of Atlanta, which I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: thought was great for the future of Bravo shows because
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: I've been begging for it forever. And especially if you
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: come back to Vanderpump and the future of Vanderpump. I
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: have been saying, I just want to watch you guys
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: live your next chapter, whether, you know, you're launching something,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: you're working on this, whatever. You can still go to
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: sir and like have a meal or whatever. But like,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: we don't have to pretend that all of a sudden
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Jax Taylor is going to go back to swing some,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: you know, shakes and cream and Brittany's going to pick
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: up a hostess.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: We don't need to see that.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: It's a little weird when people are showing up to
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: surf for their shift driving $ 100, 000 cars.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. And they live in a $ 3 million home. Yeah.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: That started to happen like towards, like, you know, before
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: we got married, like two seasons before we got married,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: people were starting to be like, come on. You know,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: because everyone's buying homes and like this, and it was
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: just hard to like, play the act anymore. And like,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: we couldn't even work anymore. It was getting to the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: part was just too crazy in the restaurants. We couldn't,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: even if we wanted to.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: So it's like, everyone's going to be like, I need
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: a photo.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: I at least had a bar in between myself and people.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: The girls that are waiting tables are like right there.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: So it's like, they can be touched, grabbed, whatever. So yeah,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: I agree with you a hundred percent. We need to
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: be able to break the fourth wall. That's okay.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: So what they did on the show about breaking the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: fourth wall, which I thought was great is the girls
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: were talking about how, um, they, they, Alex said BravoCon.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: We saw each other at BravoCon. And then next week's episode,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: they're showing clips from BravoCon. Like some beef happens at BravoCon.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: We're going to actually see it, then talk about it
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: on the show. And I'm like, I love that.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, I love it too.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: So here's my idea.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: You're welcome, Andy Cohen and Bravo.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Jax comes back on the show. You guys go to BravoCon,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: but you don't stay at Caesars. You stay in some
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: sick house in, There's, you know, ask Josh Altman to
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: find you a house.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: To rent for the day or rent for the weekend.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: And you guys all stay there and you bring your
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: cameras there and we can film that, you know, and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: then we're not taking footage from watch what happens live.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: They have their own footage, but you, we see what
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: happened in Vegas while you guys are in Bravo con.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: It's a great idea.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: It's a great idea.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Fuck.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: That's a great idea because you have to find the
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: next thing because people are starting.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: We know you're going to BravoCon. We know that you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: have launches and that you have businesses and you have
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: clothing lines.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: And the Kardashians did that. After a while, you're kind
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: of like, listen, you've got to have to break that wall.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: People are not stupid. They're like, okay, they're not doing this.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Can we just actually see what they're doing? Because we're
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: still going to watch. We're still going to watch. Regardless
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: if they're slinging drinks or not, we're still going to watch.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: So let us show you what we're actually working on.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: And as a reality show fan, nothing gets me wetter
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: than when the producer walks in with a, you know,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: with a COVID mask on and says, can I ask
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: a question? And I'm like, yes. And he asked Candy
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: about this, like shooting that happened at one of her restaurants.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, can we talk about this? And they're like,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: they're like, no, we can't. Cause there's something legal going on,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: but they kept all that in. And I'm like, that's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: juicy as fuck.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: I love when the interviews, you know, the, the, the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: confessionals when the producers like says, you know, Tom, did
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: you really do like, I love that because you're breaking
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: that barrier.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: And I wish they would do more of that.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I just think that's the next evolution of the reality shows.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Especially when a show's been on for six plus years,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: seven plus years.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: And we want to stick with the people we know.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: It's very hard. To break, like, you know, a whole new,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, there's been other shows that have been like yours. Right.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: There's one now, I think, too. I think the producer
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: of Vanderpump Rules left and started Southern Hospitality.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, there's a couple. They're using the formula that Vanderpump
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: used and they're trying to do it on. But the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: problem with that is, the problem with that is you're
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: taking people that aren't as good a core group of friends.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: You're casting. What they did is they go and they're like,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: who's working at a restaurant? She's pretty. She's pretty. He's
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: good looking. This is, let's make a show. It won't work.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: And it didn't work. I watched a little of that.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Couldn't get into it. I just watched this other show,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard, where they basically do summer house, but it
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: seems to be all cast. They try to act like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: they're kind of friends.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: And like, and like people know that they'll, they'll watch
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: shows like, okay, we got to amp this up more.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: We got to be more mad than we should be.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: And like, you don't have to do that. You could just,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: just be who you are. It comes out organically. You
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: don't have to be like, you just met somebody and
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: you're already starting a fight with her five minutes. Like,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: come on. Like, you're not starting. It's just, I think
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: people just see these shows that are so successful and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: they're arguing and stuff goes on. People need to know
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: that these people have been friends or in these shows
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: for years. You don't need to jump out the gate
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: and start an argument with Susie on episode one. Like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: it doesn't happen that way.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's, it's trying, you know, and it's trying
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: to do that. Like, um, I'm going to go back.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: It's very try hard. It's very forcing it.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I always say like when friends was a hit,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: the actual show friends, I was going out for auditions
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And I must've gone out on like, six
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: different pilots that was copycat of Friends. But instead of
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Friends being in New York, it was Friends in Seattle,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Friends in Alaska, Friends in San Francisco. Do you remember
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: any other show but Friends?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: It's hard. People try to copy the formula and it's
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: like everything, it's lightning in a bottle. Everything has to,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: it's just like why a sitcom like Everyone Loves Raymond
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: is a hit forever. It's because the writers all were
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: best friends. They all, like, actually when I did an
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: episode of Frasier and I, they were like, oh, we're
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: on the lucky lot. And I go, what? We're, we're
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: on the lucky, um, studio. There was, there was like
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: one where like, I love Lucy and cheers and all
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: this stuff. So they, they got that. So they had
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: that going, just, just Hollywood luck. But then I remember
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting and I'm, and I'm like, why isn't everyone
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: in their dressing rooms? And they're like, oh, we don't have,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: we don't have rooms. Literally the room was this big.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: This is where we hang out. And all the cast
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: of Frasier was hanging out, talking about their weekends and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And they were all friends. And then
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: they would go do their thing. They weren't all sitting
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: in their trailer on their phone being alone. Right. And
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: the same thing is like the modern day sitcom is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: the Vanderpump, you know, or the Kardashian, whatever. And it
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: has to be that.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: That dynamic.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: It has to be that. You cannot just reenact it.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: You can try. And that's exactly what I talk about
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: when I do these, when I go to and do
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: these talks about the show and how, why it's so successful.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: That's exactly the reason right there. That's exactly the reason
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: why it's successful because you took something that was preexisting
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: and you took something that's, We're such a good group
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: of friends already that nobody's acting. This is who we are.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: The cameras show up, you turn them on and then
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: we turn them off. It's just, we are who we are.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: And it's just, it's already all there. It's organic. It's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: not forced. It's not, okay, we have to make this.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: This has to happen. This has to happen. It just,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: it just happens. And it's just, there's no, there's no
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: forcefulness and it's just, it worked. It worked. And you know, that's,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: I tell everybody that and the people that are at
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: USC and film school, why does your show work? Why
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: is your show on for 10 plus years? And this
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: show only lasted a year that because of that. Because
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: of the chemistry and how organic everything is. And people
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: just get so desperate. Like, oh, we can make a
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: show like that. It's a lot easier. You watch a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: show like we can do that. No, you can't. You can't.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: You've got to find something that's already there. So when
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: I tell the cast, the people that are going to
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: school to be in casting or in picking up pilots,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: find somebody or find a group of people that are preexisting,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: that have been friends for a very long time, that
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: a core group that this already exists. This is easy.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: This is simple. They can go in. They get everybody's dynamic.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: They can tell that they've been friends for years. And
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: this could be a show. This could be an actual show.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: It's just too hard when you start casting. It's just
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: too hard. And people are smart. They figure it out
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: real quick what's true and what's not.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the audience is very sophisticated now.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: The audience knows how. With all the reality shows now
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: and all the social media right after it and the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: reunions and all the people that have their own podcasts
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: about all these shows, you can't fool anybody anymore.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: You really can't. You really can't.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Well, before you go, tell everybody what's going on with,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: so people have a chance to watch some of your
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Peacock episodes. Yeah.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: It's a bummer we're not doing anymore, but they gave
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: us the opportunity to do three episodes. Um, we basically
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: are just recapping the show. So you're basically watching the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: show with Brittany and I recapping it.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Everyone is loving it.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: They really did. I wasn't sure what people were going
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: to think and they loved it.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Watch them and let Jax know. I know.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: I would love to do more of those. I think
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: there was kind of a budgetary thing and, uh, they
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: wanted it. The production company was amped. And I think, uh,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Bravo shut it down or I
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: don't know if anybody should, I don't know. I don't
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: know if it was a budgetary thing, but it was
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: just really awesome. And we were so blessed to be
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: part of that. And just thank you to Peacock for
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: having us do that. But it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 4: It was really funny. And the best part about it
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: is all I had to do was come downstairs and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: jump on my couch and go to work. It was great.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: It was great. Everybody was a lot of fun and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: basically talking about people and not people having to talk
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: about me. It was great. You know, I get to
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: pick everyone's life apart. It was nice. And it was
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: actually shocking. Like I said, as you guys know, I
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: don't really watch the show. So that's the first time
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: I was watching episodes of, of Vanderpump rules. And for
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: the first time and just being like, Oh my God,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: Oh my God. I was actually feeling like a fan
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: It was interesting. And it was just an, an awe.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: And I became, I can became a fan again, especially
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: of Katie. I became a fan of Katie, you know? And, um,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: and James, I just really liked it.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: I had fun doing it. They're both great this season.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: They really are.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: And I didn't realize getting to know them like we
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: haven't before.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: I've always bumped heads with Katie too in the past. And, um,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: I really saw her this year and, and I felt
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: bad what she had to go through with, with Tom
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: and shorts. And, uh, it's just, it was a messy situation, but, uh,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: I think Katie's doing a lot better and I'm definitely
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: a fan for sure.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: And then you guys have your show, your podcast.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: When reality hits, um, it's awesome. We're just talking, you know,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: everything in life, uh, being on reality, being married and
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: having kids on reality. Uh, basically it's Brittany making me
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: cry every episode. No, I'm kidding. Uh, it's just, it's
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: just a lot of fun. We're going to talk to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: other villains on reality because let's be honest, if you
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: don't have a villain on reality show, reality show doesn't exist.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work. You got to have the bad guy.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm actually giving people.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: Don't you have another show coming out?
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, I do, but we can't talk about that. Oh, okay. I, I,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: you know what? Everybody else gets to talk about their
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: new shows coming out and mine. I'm the one that
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: shot mine first. And this is all coming out before mine.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: It's out there, though.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: Is it out there?
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, then you don't talk. This is my knowledge. You're
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: doing some type of show, like a Big Brother competition something,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: and it's like villains, former villains in life and in
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: reality shows get together to do something. That's what I've heard. Anyway,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: it sounds juicy. It sounds juicy, and if that show,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: if I dreamt that up, You, someone take that idea too,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: but I don't think of it. Anyway, that sounds, that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: sounds good.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: So, yeah. So, but the reality show, or I'm sorry,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: the reality show, the, uh, the, uh, podcast right now
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: is a lot of fun. We're having so much fun
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: with it and it's, it's nice to be able to, uh,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: to clarify up a lot of stuff that's happened over
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: the years. You know, used to be able to, I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: film a show and then I have to clarify everything
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: up six months later down the line doing a talk show.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: Now I get to clarify my mistakes up on a
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: weekly basis, which is nice. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of fun. And like, I'm excited to talk
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: to other villains from other shows. Because like I said,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: villains are the ones that make the shows happen, I think.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: And I think it's nice to give them a little
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: bit of a platform and explain why they're such villains.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: So it's exciting. It's a lot of fun. And it's
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: just another thing that Brittany and I are doing together.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: And we're enjoying it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: And then you're just busy with Cruz.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: Busy with Cruz. Busy being a dad.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: So gorgeous.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you. He's such a cutie.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, my God. He is so good looking.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: And Lala's like, Cruz is too and has a jawline.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: They always say like his jawline. I know. I know.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, no, all the kids are so cute. I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: love seeing all the kids.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Almost time to think about another one pretty soon.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: I think I, well, I, you know, I just, I,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: I told you, did I ever tell you how you
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: get pregnant with the second one besides having sex? You
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: do sex. Listen, I just heard from another person. It's
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: called the Heather McDonald method. I've gotten hundreds of people
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: that have said they've tried every other things. My method
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: is free, but it's just, People don't think about it.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: They start peeing on the sticks. When am I ovulating?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: All that stuff. What you do is after you finish
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: the period, you have sex every other day for 10
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: to 14 days. Not every day. Every other day. I'm
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: telling you.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: Every other day after?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: The period ends.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Not before the period. The period ends. She's done with
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: her period.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Then every other day for two weeks, you have sex.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of sex.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: But it's every other day.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: Try it because I just heard it from another girl
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: today that said, I can't believe that it worked because
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: we've tried a bunch of other things. Really? And it
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: really works because I had trouble getting pregnant with my
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: second just because you're busier with the one.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: And I was like 34 or whatever. So I was like, okay,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: it was a little harder than when I got pregnant
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: with her first. And this girl told me it. And
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, done.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Done.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: And that's why I spread the word of it. Cause it's, Hey,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but it's worth
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: trying for a month.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: I'll try it. Yeah. I'll try it.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: You're ready for it.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Start your whole modeling agency. Thank you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Follow Jack for having me.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, so good seeing you. So juicy.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: So juicy.
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