Latest / Investor Exchange / Camsing Healthcare: Q1 FY2026 Financial Results
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome back to The Deep Dive. Today, we've got the latest numbers from Kamsing
- 0:12Healthcare Limited. You sent over their Q1 results, right?
- 0:15For the three months ending April 30th, 2025.
- 0:19That's right. It's the start of their fiscal year, 2026. So our first look at
- 0:23how things are shaping up this year.
- 0:24And these are the unaudited figures, yeah. Still gives us a pretty good picture, though. Exactly.
- 0:28Unaudited, but it's the official release, comparing this quarter to the same time last year.
- 0:33Plenty to dig into. Okay, let's dive in. So first thing, revenue.
- 0:37Looks like it's up. Yep. Top line saw a bump, up 17%. Went from about $1.07
- 0:43million last year to S1.25 million this quarter.
- 0:4817%. Sounds decent on the surface. It does. But, you know, the devil's in the details, as always.
- 0:53Where did that growth actually come from? Right, because when you break it down,
- 0:57it's not quite what you might expect.
- 0:59Not at all. Their main business, the sort of traditional retail and online sales, that actually dropped.
- 1:04Dropped? By how much? Quite a bit. It went from over a million dollars last
- 1:08year, S1.05 million roughly, down to S930,000 dollars this quarter.
- 1:14Hmm. So where did the increase come from then, if the main segment went down?
- 1:18Corporate sales. They had a massive surge there.
- 1:21Last year, it was tiny, like S$20,000. This year, S$305,000. Huge jump.
- 1:27Wow. Okay. So basically, all the growth and then some came from these quarter
- 1:31deals, while the core consumer side weakened.
- 1:34Precisely. And they mentioned the retail dip is largely because they physically
- 1:38closed some stores. Fewer outlets operating.
- 1:41Ah, okay. That context is important. Fewer stores mean lower retail sales. Yeah. Makes sense.
- 1:46So growth driven by corporate, not consumers. Let's talk profit.
- 1:50Or a loss, rather. The loss before tax got smaller.
- 1:53It did. That's one of the headlines here. The loss shrank by 28%,
- 1:56down from $669,000 last year to $480,000 this quarter.
- 2:02Okay, less red ink. That sounds like an improvement. But again,
- 2:05need to ask why, right? Exactly.
- 2:07Did they suddenly become much more profitable in what they sold? Well, no.
- 2:10Actually, the opposite. How so? Their growth profit margin actually got tighter.
- 2:13Their cost of sales, what it cost them to acquire or make the stuff they sold,
- 2:17went up faster than their revenue did.
- 2:19So they made less profit on each dollar of sales compared to last year. Correct.
- 2:24The reason the overall loss improved wasn't better margins. It was significant
- 2:28cuts elsewhere. Cost cutting. Where did they cut?
- 2:31Primarily operating expenses. Things like marketing, distribution costs, those were down.
- 2:36And it ties back to the store closures, you know, less rent,
- 2:40less depreciation on leases they ended. Okay, fewer stores, lower operating costs.
- 2:45That, Twakes. What else? Finance costs, they absolutely limited.
- 2:50Really? Why was that? They received some interest-free loans.
- 2:54That makes a huge difference to the bottom line, obviously.
- 2:56No interest payments or much lower ones. Interest-free loans.
- 3:00That's a significant help. Must be from supportive parties.
- 3:03Likely, yes. The report mentions shareholder support later on, which we'll get to.
- 3:07But there was a slight offset. Admin costs did tick up a bit.
- 3:11Higher payroll, they said. Okay, so recapping the loss. It got smaller,
- 3:15mainly because they slashed operating costs, linked to store closures,
- 3:18and got a big break on finance costs through interest-free loans.
- 3:22Not because the core business suddenly got more profitable per sale.
- 3:26You've got it. The operational efficiency, or lack thereof at the gross margin
- 3:30level, was actually worse.
- 3:32The improvement came from cutting overhead and financing differently.
- 3:35Which brings us to the overall financial health picture. The balance sheet.
- 3:39How's that looking? Yeah, this is where, frankly, the story gets a bit more
- 3:43worrying despite the smaller loss. Oh, so?
- 3:46Their net liability position actually got worse, deeper in the red.
- 3:50Wait, even though they reported a smaller loss for the quarter? Yes.
- 3:53At the start of the period, January 31st, their net liabilities were S3.8 million dollars.
- 3:59By April 30th, just three months later, that had increased to S4.3 million dollars.
- 4:04So the gap between what they owe and what they own widened.
- 4:09Their overall financial hole got deeper. That's a good way to put it.
- 4:12Total liabilities grew faster than total assets. What drove that?
- 4:15Assets falling or liabilities climbing? Or both? It was kind of both.
- 4:19Assets decreased across the board. Property, plant, equipment went down.
- 4:23Depreciation, yes. But also those terminated leases were moving assets.
- 4:26And current assets like cash, receivables, inventory, they all shrank too. Okay. Assets down.
- 4:32What about the other side? Liabilities. Well, some short-term liabilities decreased, which is good.
- 4:38But the big mover was non-current liabilities. That means longer-term debt.
- 4:43Specifically, borrowings increased significantly.
- 4:45That pushed total liabilities up, more than offsetting any decrease in current liabilities.
- 4:52So, smaller accounting loss this quarter, but the underlying balance sheet actually weakened.
- 4:57Net debt or net liabilities worsened. That's not a great combination.
- 5:02It's definitely a red flag. It's just the improved profit and loss figure might
- 5:06not reflect the true underlying financial trajectory, which leads us to cash flow.
- 5:11Right. Cash is king, as they say. How did the actual cash movement look?
- 5:15Forget the accounting profit for a second. And this is probably the most critical
- 5:18point. The cash used in operating activities just running the day-to-day business actually increased.
- 5:22Increased. So they burned more cash from operations this quarter than last year.
- 5:26Significantly more. Last year, same period, they used a $72,000 in cash for operations.
- 5:32This quarter, as $200,000. Wow. So almost triple the cash burn from just doing
- 5:38business, even though the accounting loss looked better.
- 5:40Exactly. That's a really stark contrast.
- 5:42It tells you the business itself, operationally, is consuming cash at a faster rate.
- 5:48The accounting improvements didn't translate into better cash generation, quite the opposite.
- 5:53So where is the money coming from to cover that burn and, well, keep the lights on?
- 5:58They must be getting cash somewhere. Financing activities, that's where the cash came in.
- 6:01Primarily, the report mentions through a loan from a shareholder.
- 6:05Ah, there it is. Shareholder support again. Yes.
- 6:08And the report is quite explicit about this.
- 6:11It says preparing these financials on a going concern basis,
- 6:15basically, assuming the company can continue to operate, relies heavily on this
- 6:19continued financial support from the shareholder.
- 6:21Because without it. Without it, given the net liability position,
- 6:26the operational cash burn, and their low cash balance, there would be significant
- 6:30doubt about their ability to continue.
- 6:32The shareholder loan is essentially plugging the gap right now.
- 6:36Okay, so let's pull this all together. What's the final picture?
- 6:39It's very much a mixed bag, leaning towards concerning, I'd say.
- 6:43You have an improved accounting loss, which looks good at first glance.
- 6:46But that improvement is driven by cost cuts, some potentially temporary,
- 6:51like reduced marketing, and very favorable interest-free financing,
- 6:56not by a stronger core business margin. Correct.
- 6:59And underneath that, you have a deteriorating balance sheet,
- 7:02the net liability position worsening and, critically, an increasing rate of
- 7:07cash being burned by the actual operations.
- 7:09All held together, it seems, by crucial financial support from a shareholder.
- 7:13That's the crux of it. So what's their plan? What does the outlook section say?
- 7:17How do they see things improving? Well, they acknowledge the headwinds.
- 7:20Globally economic uncertainty, potentially hitting consumer spending,
- 7:24maybe supply chain issues lingering.
- 7:26Standard cautious language there. And their strategy to deal with that.
- 7:29It focuses on a few key areas. One, really pushing the retail side through online
- 7:34platforms and other third-party channels, trying to replace that lost physical
- 7:38store revenue digitally.
- 7:40Two, continuing the cost control measures, keep expenses tight.
- 7:44And three, reorganizing their physical footprint, focusing only on profitable
- 7:48store locations while expanding that online presence.
- 7:51They seem to be betting heavily on the shift to digital.
- 7:54So lean into online, keep cutting costs, optimize the remaining physical stores. Pretty much.
- 8:00They express, you know, cautious optimism that executing this strategy will
- 8:04lead to better performance down the line.
- 8:06So there you have it. A mixed bag with improving losses, but a worsening net
- 8:10liability position and continued cash burner from operations tempered by shareholder
- 8:15support and strategic shifts.
- 8:16What stands out to you in their plan relying on online growth and cost cuts,
- 8:20given the broader economic uncertainty they mentioned? Well,
- 8:22the strategy makes sense on paper, right?
- 8:24Shift online, cut costs. But the big question mark for me is the pace.
- 8:28Yeah, can that online growth ramp up fast enough?
- 8:32And can the cost cuts be sustainable enough to actually reverse that negative
- 8:36operational cash flow, especially with the economic headwinds they themselves point out? Right.
- 8:41It makes you wonder how quickly those strategies can translate into sustainable
- 8:45positive cash flow before that shareholder support perhaps runs thin or becomes more expensive.
- 8:50It's a race against time, isn't it? It feels a bit like that, yes.
- 8:53They need those strategic shifts to pay off and potentially quite soon to stabilize
- 8:58the underlying financials.
- 9:00It'll be very interesting to watch their next quarterly report. Indeed.
- 9:04A situation definitely worth keeping an eye on. Thanks for breaking that down. My pleasure.