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L68 Cyn Shrader Hill's new book " Death's Doorstep" · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to this episode. This was
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  Speaker 1: a live episode that I recorded recently with one D
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  Speaker 1: one and only Sin traders Hill. She came to promote
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  Speaker 1: her new book called Death Storstep and it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: about indies non discloser agreement, not indie. I always get
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  Speaker 1: this messed up mess, mixed and messed up. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, Sin is a wonderful paranormal investigator. She is
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  Speaker 1: Elk Valley Paranormal. She is the founder of that. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you guys don't hear so much. In the background,
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  Speaker 1: they're doing some work on the house that I live in,
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  Speaker 1: so there's going to be some noises back there. I'll
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  Speaker 1: do my very best ticket quickly through this, so you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be annoyed by that. But anyhow, so
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  Speaker 1: she's a good friend of mine. She came on the
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  Speaker 1: show wanted to promote her book. I'm actually mentioned in
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  Speaker 1: the book as well as a couple of my other friends,
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  Speaker 1: so I was really grateful for that. She's you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's very funny, very cordial, well spoken lady, and we
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  Speaker 1: get into a lot of things. We had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun and yeah, so remember every Tuesday is one
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  Speaker 1: so enjoy this episode quick intro, So once again thanks
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  Speaker 1: for all your support and love, and please enjoy this
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  Speaker 1: one with my good friend Sin Straighter Hill.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, how's everything going.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Why does Tom have a blurry background?
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  Speaker 1: So I just told you, Jim? Yeah, yeah, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good? I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking good. Enjoying the hot weather?
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah no, no, I'm ready for fall. I'm always
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  Speaker 2: ready for pumpkin season.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's your timing year, that's right. Keep
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  Speaker 1: forgetting you're a big You're you're really into that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. Pam's already saying Hi, Hi, Pam, Hi, see
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  Speaker 1: you on the side here that you're you will be
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  Speaker 1: loading live as we go, and uh yeah, So sim
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  Speaker 1: why are you here today? Tell Tom? Tell the people
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  Speaker 1: why you're here today? What? What is? Why did you
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  Speaker 1: with your presence?
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  Speaker 2: Tom Franklin? I am here because I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a good enough reason. But I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 1: another one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there is. I've missed you.
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  Speaker 1: I missed you too. I've missed you too for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Big time. Yeah, it's been it's been way too long.
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  Speaker 2: It's been.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But you asked me if I wanted to come on
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  Speaker 2: and talk about my book, and I went, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean this book?
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  Speaker 2: Which one?
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  Speaker 1: The one in the bottom on the screen right there?
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  Speaker 1: Can you see it? I just popped it up there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, it says author. It says Sin
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  Speaker 1: Schrader Hill, author on Facebook. No, it's not that book.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go. I can't find it. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was your book. Oh look, oh, I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: your book. I don't messed up. Oh no, let's cover
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  Speaker 1: and take a look. See I got it up here somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that I can't get to it because myter
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  Speaker 1: so slow move.
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  Speaker 2: That's posted Pam just posted it and.
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  Speaker 1: Hi the bottom, Hi everybody, I'm sorry. I've got the
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  Speaker 1: wrong this book there it is. I'm sorry, this book
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  Speaker 1: that books. When When did this book release?
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  Speaker 2: The first of July?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's recent, so a month ago, literally one month
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  Speaker 1: ago today?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And the Signs book, It's Not Goodbye to
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  Speaker 2: More Signs from Beyond, will be finished at the end
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  Speaker 2: of this month.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, you've been busy, well, very busy.
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  Speaker 2: All of this was supposed to be in one book,
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  Speaker 2: but there was too much, too many near death experiences
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  Speaker 2: and angel rescues and near misses, and I thought that
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  Speaker 2: really deserves its own book. Okay, and then Mark came
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  Speaker 2: up with this and it's my favorite cover so far.
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  Speaker 2: I love this cover.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you were so busy doing his book, so he
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  Speaker 1: figured he'd come back and help you out with some graphics,
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  Speaker 1: some illustrations of cover.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool, Yeah, he told me. I said, okay, So
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  Speaker 2: fourteen and a half months he said, yeah, you take
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  Speaker 2: this year and do.
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  Speaker 1: You Welcome to the show Crypto Kentucky. We have a
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  Speaker 1: new new person on the show. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully I earn your subscription today, my friend. Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Did I see Daniel in the chest and Daniel here
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  Speaker 2: is Austin. Austin's here, Austin's here? Oh my god, very
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  Speaker 2: union show.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Lawrence from the Dead Chronicles. Ladies and gentlemen, please
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  Speaker 1: go and check out his show over on YouTube. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see here we go. There is Austin right there, so
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  Speaker 1: I can get him a little bit of love. All right,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be just like just like it says, Hey, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: He so?
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Jim, Al's here.
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  Speaker 2: Ghost in the Valley podcast just checked in. That's Al.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Al, I love al oll Al
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that. Oh hi, Ghost in the Vallee. Hello Sin
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  Speaker 1: Hi Al, welcome to show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great guy. You have you talked to
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  Speaker 2: him yet?
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  Speaker 1: No, hit me up. I'll contact me at the idubiter
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  Speaker 1: Podcasts at gmail dot com. I have you on and
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  Speaker 1: we'll and we'll and we'll promote whatever you're promoting, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about your you know, your whatever it is
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  Speaker 1: that you want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, he's amazing and you guys would get along because
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  Speaker 2: you're both musicians.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that'll work. Here we go Ghost in the
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  Speaker 1: Valley podcast. Jenny's here, Jenny's here.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Jenny, there's Jenny Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: You go check out to go and check out his channel.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing amazing stuff over there. He's a great paranormal
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  Speaker 1: investing it as well as filmmaker. Sweet sweet guy. We
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  Speaker 1: always get along. He always jumps in for me whenever
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  Speaker 1: one of my guests can't make it for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 1: And we have a lot of so now we say
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  Speaker 1: it Hi to everyone. Tell me a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: this book. What got you?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: I know? You said you? I mean you've been on
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the third time something like that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're wrong for the year Special too. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit about this book. What motivated you
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  Speaker 1: to write this one?
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  Speaker 2: The first signs book? Actually? Okay, I when that one
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  Speaker 2: got put in my lap, you know, I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stories. So I reached out to people
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  Speaker 2: four stories of signs of their loved ones, near death experiences,
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  Speaker 2: deathbed conversations, all kinds of things like that, and I
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  Speaker 2: had fifty stories almost immediately. It was amazing, and the
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  Speaker 2: book almost wrote itself. When it came out, I started
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  Speaker 2: selling and going around talking about it, and people would
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  Speaker 2: come up and say, I have an experience for you,
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  Speaker 2: I have a near experience for you. I've got a
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  Speaker 2: sign you'd like to know. I've got this, I've got that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, well, we need a sequel. So I
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  Speaker 2: started a sequel and it was getting so big with
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  Speaker 2: near death experiences and angel rescues and stuff. I needed
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  Speaker 2: to pull those out fantastical and have the door death doorsteps.
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  Speaker 2: So I did that and then the Signs book. The
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  Speaker 2: reason it's coming out so soon is because I was
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  Speaker 2: working on them together at first.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so this is so we're gonna we're gonna call
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  Speaker 1: your book series these two together, Terminator one and Terminator two.
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  Speaker 1: Terminator one is a fantastic movie, but Terminator two is
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  Speaker 1: that much better. So go check it out and you
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  Speaker 1: will get your own liquid metal guy. We welcome Cheryl Watson.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. It's the first time having you here.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't met you before. I'm glad you're here to
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  Speaker 1: to meet Sen and to meet the whole crew over there.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's over there. You get to meet Pam, my awesome moderator,
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  Speaker 1: you get to meet Jannette or Jenny as we call
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  Speaker 1: her affectionately, my awesome moderator, and of course the niece
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  Speaker 1: is over there. And this is a good group. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun. We're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of interesting discussions and around. Yeah, we rolled in today.
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  Speaker 2: In the chat. There's a lot of stories that are
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  Speaker 2: in this book, all the people.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, would you like to maybe either outline one that is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, something that people would be interested in so
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  Speaker 1: they would maybe want to go and check out this
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  Speaker 1: book and maybe buy it from you.
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  Speaker 2: All of them?
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  Speaker 1: All of them? Okay, you know what's setting you up
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  Speaker 1: with a red carpet. You just jumped off of it,
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  Speaker 1: all right, fair enough?
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Let me tell you one of
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  Speaker 2: my one of my favorite ones. That's really it's really
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  Speaker 2: gotten to me. Actually. It's a friend of mine that
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  Speaker 2: lives around Lynchburg, Tennessee, where Jack Daniels is made, and
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  Speaker 2: he was living at the time. This happened outside of Nashville,
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  Speaker 2: and he was on his way home on the interstate
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  Speaker 2: and it had been raining. It wasn't raining at that point,
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  Speaker 2: but there was pooling on the roads. He hydroplane on
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  Speaker 2: a bridge and went across the median and hit a
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  Speaker 2: big rig.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The big rig was fine, of course, yeah, the driver fine.
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  Speaker 2: It just so happened. It just now. I don't believe
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  Speaker 2: in coincidences very much, and for this, I really don't.
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  Speaker 2: There was a paramedic getting on the interstate at that
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  Speaker 2: point and saw the whole thing, so he stopped immediately.
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  Speaker 2: And the way Chris's truck was, he was pressed up
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  Speaker 2: into the passenger side, crushed, so there's no way anybody
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  Speaker 2: should have gotten out of that. And the paramedic wasn't running,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he was like, this is going to be bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be really bad. In the truck, Chris
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  Speaker 2: was still awake, he had not passed out. He never
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  Speaker 2: lost consciousness during this time, and he knew he was hurt.
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  Speaker 2: He knew he was badly hurt. He didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: bad because he couldn't see. Everything was crushed in around him.
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  Speaker 2: So there were also a couple of other men that
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  Speaker 2: had been rained out of their construction work, and they
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  Speaker 2: had some tools that they came running over to try
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  Speaker 2: to get the door off the truck. So when She'll shattered,
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  Speaker 2: still intact, but Chris is there. He was able to
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  Speaker 2: barely turn and look at the pair so that the
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  Speaker 2: paramedic knew he was alive and came running. He ran
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  Speaker 2: over started administering help immediately. He was coming into the
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  Speaker 2: side door. The other two were trying to get the
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  Speaker 2: door off while he was working on him. And then
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  Speaker 2: this man walks up and came right over, straight over
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  Speaker 2: to Chris. He had this long duster coat like out
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  Speaker 2: that coat on, a hat and shoulder lengked brown hair,
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  Speaker 2: and he leaned in and he said, would you like
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  Speaker 2: for me to pray with you? And Chris said, please, please,
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  Speaker 2: And so he knelt down, took his hat off, and
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  Speaker 2: he said, you're not going anywhere today, little brother, and
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  Speaker 2: he reached his hand in to touch him, and he
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  Speaker 2: started praying with him, and he prayed and he prayed,
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  Speaker 2: and he quoted scripture after scripture. He did this the
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  Speaker 2: entire time they were trying to get Chris out, which
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  Speaker 2: was an hour. They finally put Chris out of this
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  Speaker 2: truck an hour later and loaded him into the ambulance,
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  Speaker 2: took him in, and for the first couple of weeks
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  Speaker 2: they had to keep him sedated. He was in such
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  Speaker 2: bad shape. He had. His arm was a compound fracture.
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  Speaker 2: His one of his legs at four breaks and at
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  Speaker 2: two of them compound, which means the bone was coming
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  Speaker 2: through you yeah, yeah, and then the other one had
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  Speaker 2: a break. The hip was broken, his neck was broken,
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  Speaker 2: but he was not paralyzed. I mean, this guy made
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  Speaker 2: it through all of that with all those breaks. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they sedated him for the first two weeks, and then
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  Speaker 2: fast forward a few weeks and he's got to go
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  Speaker 2: to the doctor for a follow up visit. He can't
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  Speaker 2: drive still, obviously he's sit dere in hospital and the
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  Speaker 2: same paramedics shows up to take him to the to
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  Speaker 2: the doctor's appointment, and they're like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's you. And they got to talking
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  Speaker 2: and Chris said, you know, there's one thing of this,
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  Speaker 2: all of this that has really gotten to me, and
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  Speaker 2: I would really really like to reach out to that
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  Speaker 2: guy that stayed and prayed the entire time. And the
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  Speaker 2: paramedic just kind of frowned at him. What And he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the guy that was in the long duster
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  Speaker 2: coat took his hat off, prayed quoted scripture the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And the guy said, there wasn't anybody there like that.
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  Speaker 2: He said, yes, he was. He was right behind you.
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  Speaker 2: He reached in the window. He was there the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: How could you not have seen him? And he said, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I was working on you and there were two construction
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  Speaker 2: workers that stopped to help us. That's it. So they
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  Speaker 2: sit there staring at each other, and the paramedic goes, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: do you think that was an angel? And Chris said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to. So that got christ to thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how can I you know, how can I figure this out?
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  Speaker 2: So he goes back and looks through his pictures that
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  Speaker 2: somebody had taken up his wreck. He gets to the
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  Speaker 2: windshield one. There is no hole in the windshield where
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  Speaker 2: somebody could have reached their arm in to touch him.
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  Speaker 2: There's none. It was shattered, but it was intact. There's
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  Speaker 2: no hole right.
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  Speaker 1: Because I had that plastic in between the two queens
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  Speaker 1: of glass.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody have reached in to touch him to say, little brother,
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  Speaker 2: you're not going anywhere today. Yet somebody did.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you hear so many stories like that. Here's
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  Speaker 1: so many stories I had on a gentleman. He's think
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  Speaker 1: of his name right now. He's an author to North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot George Lunsford, that's his name. And he told
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  Speaker 1: me about his dy and that he had like some
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  Speaker 1: type of infection or something, and uh he he was
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital and like this blue light opened up
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  Speaker 1: on the wall and literally an angel stepped through. There
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  Speaker 1: was an old lady there talking to him and uh
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  Speaker 1: he it's just you know, it's not your time yet,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything is okay, insaid I had like like
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  Speaker 1: like turned Coy's blue eyes and it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of paraphrasing, but he stepped back through the
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  Speaker 1: hole and then the shut and then he was okay again.
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  Speaker 1: He could see like he was flat lackening. He could see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everyone rushing in the room at the same time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was just you hear so many of these stories.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, i mean, your you're collective stories
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  Speaker 1: and that's great, and that's fantastic and this you're great
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  Speaker 1: at what you do, But I mean, what is what
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  Speaker 1: is your take on this those kind of things?
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  Speaker 2: You know, all of these stories that I've gotten for
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  Speaker 2: this book. There a lot of people talk about a
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  Speaker 2: light a tunnel going really fast through the tunnel, and
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  Speaker 2: then you might hear somebody talk about seeing dead relatives
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  Speaker 2: friends like Austin saw his grandfather and a friend of
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  Speaker 2: his And.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's never told me about that, Austin, Austin, you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be telling me, And he's right there the
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  Speaker 3: Dead Chronicles guys, Austin Lawrence the Dead as.
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  Speaker 2: Austin also wrote the forward for this book, and I
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  Speaker 2: was very thankful for that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Then we were chatting about coming on
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  Speaker 1: and then you were like, oh, yeah, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I put you and a couple of some other friends
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  Speaker 1: in the book. And I was like, you put me
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  Speaker 1: in your book. I've never been in anyone's book. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's an honor. I'm going to say, it's
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  Speaker 1: an honor or privilege, you know. I mean we're just
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, you you're really good your your
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  Speaker 1: your humor is like my humor, like on your Facebook
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  Speaker 1: post and you just post like goofy stuff and I
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  Speaker 1: go okay, and then I'll put a little retorts, a
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  Speaker 1: little retort and make you laugh and then we go
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. And it's always been a great retort
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we just you know, you've always been
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  Speaker 1: super friendly with me. I just never expected that you
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  Speaker 1: would put me in your book.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, see what happened was not only did Daniel
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  Speaker 2: have a story in the book, but so did Pam.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, I met them through you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I have.
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  Speaker 2: To talk about you and I of Jupiter and that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: how I met those two.
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  Speaker 1: So crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So also, one thing I do like to do in
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the acknowledgments is whenever I come on someone's podcast and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I get to talk about my book, then you're in
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the acknowledgments as well.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. Thank you so much for this.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Really cool. I just it's this kind of happenstance. You know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you try to do the right things and be you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: because you know, like this podcast broke can be very slippery.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of like you know, like like there's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a rat race and people just want to be famous
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons or I don't even want to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: be famous. I just want to do this well and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: have fun. I'm in it for the art form. It's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: an art form as well as I love connecting, So
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it's like two things that I get to try to do,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and plus like you know, video editing, which
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I've never done before. And I also did like a
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: thing where I went out to a pyramid in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: middle of the rainforest here or the jungle. Yeah, and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it's not very good, but you know it's the video
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is not good. But the cutting of it took me,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: oh man, two weeks to do. And you know, people
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like Austin and yourself, you know, you guys motivate me,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like Tom, you know, go do some stuff.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I jumped on the back of a motorcycle. My buddy's like,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: hey man, I know this place. Yeah, we want out
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to a we wanted to. We went out to a
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: an old hacienda. They used to make regular ropes with
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the steam power machines and it's all like dilapidated. And
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: we also wanted this old church where they took rocks
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: from the pyramids to build the church. And inside the church,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: in the floor there's freaking bones in the floor. Human bone.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I seen. I seen this with my own two eyes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Was it like priests bones? I mean, were they?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I asked a gentleman in Spanish. You can see it
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in the show, guys, you can go back and check
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it out. I dropped it like two weeks ago or
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a week ago, something like that week ago, and I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: asked them, I said, you know, why are these bones?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: It's like rhetity where the altar would have been, like
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you have the altar with the it has like a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: conical shape in the back that's still standing, and then
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you have the you know, the congregation section. So it's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: rare ney the altar. It's like these shallow dips in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the floor and you can see it. It looked to me,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: once again YouTube. I am not a anthropologist or anything
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: like that, but it looked to me as if it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: were a human bone. And there was some other little
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: things there that I didn't take pictures of. I try
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to be respectful. I don't want to film someone's you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and so, but it's there and he goes, I said,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know, why are these people here? He goes, well,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: in the past, people who had money and we're really
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: connected with the church can then say yes, I would
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: like to be, you know, placed here, and that is
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: just open and anyone can just walk there and there's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: not marked. I don't know who they are. And I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: also seen for the first time since I've been here.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't videotape it because I just didn't think of it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I got the hell out of there. A pentagram spray
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: painted on the wall, which is the first time I've
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: seen that symbol here, and it was quite weird. So
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: then we left from there, we went to the pyramid
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and it's dilapidate. There's a couple pyramids there. The big
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: one is still in pretty decent shape, but the little
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: ones you can see where they took all the stones
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: off and it's just like underneath, just like the mountains
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and the rocks and the dirts. And he goes, see
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: remember those stones that were showing you they would take
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: them off the pyramids and build the churches with them.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It was it was crazy. And this place is not protected.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It's in the middle of Nowhereville. And here's me, Tom myself.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I speak to myself on third person, How good am I?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And I put on this helmet and I rode on
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the back of the motorcycle and when I got there
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: said everything was numb, if you know what I mean. Yeah, So,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: so like this, this podcasting stuff is just it's just
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of things that have You know, I'm pretty
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: decent and I'm trying to learn and just trying to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: put them together, and I get to meet each interesting
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: people like you, and I get to have the one
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: most wonderful support, Thank you, Pam, the wonderful support of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: see Pam's awesome. That's my video. Guys. Yeah, of the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you know like Pam and all the other podcasters you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Jim from Night from the Night's Watch, Jim Palf from
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: The Night's Watch, and you know Daniel from from The
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Magical Journey and Tommy calling them from Let's Get Freaky.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know, like the ones that just like
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: we're close friends and it's just kind of happens. It's
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: just kind of happened. It wasn't planned it all. It's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: just life kind of happens.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You'll sin add al to that one ghost in the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Valley podcast.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, al yeah, right me brother, write me brother. Well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'll put you on uh September, sometimes September sometime on
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: on a day like today at the same time in September,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'll have you on. Man, we'll talk about your show
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and whatever else you want to talk about.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He grew up in a haunted house. Ooh, and he
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: has a book about growing up in that haunted house.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Oh. That's cool, all right, and do we'll have one
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: more promote a show. There's so many, you know, little
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: shows and podcasts and just trying to find cool people,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think I have
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: been kind of like sewing that, you know, like you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: just good people and uh, I mean getting some crazy
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: guests coming, like you know, I had the guy from
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the Beast of Bray Road on that's coming up. Yeah. Oh,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and then another one where a dog man grabbed a
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: woman and a guy shot it four times with a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: forty four. It was his wife. He shot the dog
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: we had four times with a forty four and it
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: just kind of like it just kind of it's just
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: kind of just let it go, Hey, Moon and Noon,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: what's up buddy. He just kind of let it go
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and then ran uput them through the woods Man. So
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I had Darryl Detton on to talk about it, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: then I got in contact with the actual person. So
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it's just wow, it's it's been organically happening and.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: The way it's supposed to the.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Way it's supposed to be because there's a lot of
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: people who try to shoot for the moon and it's good,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I like that kind of motivation. But at
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the same time, then you know you do something like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in this new book write my name in there. That's crazy.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That's crazy to me.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's one thing I feel like I can give back.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I bring people, you know, a little awareness to these
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: podcasts and hopefully get you more subscribers.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well it's not trying to get them. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: mean I'll get them as they come if they like
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: to show how Hello uh wu Riggers DG. That's a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: new person. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I hopefully I you know, we the I we are
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: able to get your subscription today talking about subscriptions and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a new person pops on. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it was always so cool with you, right. So Halloween
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: was one of my live shows and I was like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: who am I going to have one? And I was
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: like would you come on? And you'd be like, hell, yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm coming on. Yeah ht double hockey sticks. And we
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: went through like the reason for Halloween and the jack
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: O lantern and all the knowledge you had was it
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was new to me, of course, and we had a
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: lot of fun, and it was just it's always been
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: organic and you you've been here from the beginning. You've
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: been here from the beginning, so it's it's been incredible.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So I couldn't think of any better person to come on.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, she has a new book out, I'm contactor,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and immediately you.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Said, yes, yeah, of course I did.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So where can they find this book? Just just Amazon
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: right now or do you have a website.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Or it's on Amazon right now and it is in paperback, hardback,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: kindled and audible.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: M hmm. Maybe I sit down with you and I'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: translated into German for you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I would like that. I used to know a little
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: bit of German and I wanted to be a German interpreter.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But then and in the college level, they wanted me
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to take out dangling participles and I don't even know
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: what that is in English, So yeah, I.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Don't that's not necessary. That's so not necessary. Domes and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I'll throw in some Spanish. What I just did was
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: dry no mas. Yeah I do that too, you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I can't help it. And when I did home health
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: in Texas Holy Cow, a lot of those people, the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: older people did not speak any English. So of course,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: thing you learn in any language are the curse words.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So I knew the curse words, but that didn't help
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: me for the little people that I was helping in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: physical therapy, and I had to learn you know, body
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: parts like bierna and word yeah, and how to stretch
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: direcho and you know, just different things. I would grow
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in German and confuse both of us.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do it all the time. So I'm I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: becoming I started becoming a tutor. I have four students now,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: so now I can work at home that I can
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: have my daughter work more with me, so it's cool.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And I'll be speaking with somebody from Germany, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just chewing a rag, talking about you know, teaching them
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like how to We go to a bakery together in
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Germany and I'm talking for a whole hour and then
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I turn around and look at my girlfriend and just
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: speak straight German to her and she goes, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't understand you. Then I go to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the store to get a pack of cigarettes and I'm
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: speaking German up there too. He looks at you like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm from outer space, and I go because my brain
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just does that automatic click. So yeah, we're just I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: think I don't know if we're smart or if we're
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: not so smart.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'll just say I'm a dizzy blonde. I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: going to get things wrong all the time. I'll throw english.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know you well enough to disagree with you.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: How's that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a few people in the chat that will
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: tell you, Oh, yeah, she's dizzy. She's dizzy, but we
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: love her. She's dizzy, but we love her.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit into your past. Where
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: are you from? How did you grow up? And what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: got you into all this? Again? Let's go back. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: want to go ahead and recap some of this. I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: enjoy talking to you. Where were you born and where
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: did all this? I'm interested in the paranormal come from.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I was born the day Kennedy got shot. That is
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: my only claim to fame.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So something something nineteen sixty two three. I know where
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: it was. I know that. Dallas, Yeah, daily President Dallas.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was born in Fatteville, Tennessee, and it's the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: old haunted hospital here. Now. I was a weird kid.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I loved Edgar Allan Poe when I was gone. Oh yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: from ten years old on he was my favorite. Loved him.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: But my mom and my grandmother used to tell me
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: bedtime stories that were scary and really yeah. Yeah, my
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: mom rode me that read the Highwayman because she took
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: speech for years and years and years and years, so
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: she would do all the inflections and all the voices,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and the highwaymen came.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Right, we're gonna have to address something real quick, really unreal.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Real estate agent zero is there seven? Says that makes
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you seventy one? Is that true?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Now? Oh? She says she's seventy one?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm I'll I'll.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Be sixty two this year.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was going to say, I was like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: damn sins looking damn good for seventy one. Yeah, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta eat. I gotta eat what you're eating.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get into this. You know, you
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: got to send me your recipes or something.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: We get some recipes, yes, in mart.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, So they used to do these, So they used
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to do all the characters and kind of give you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a little show. So so it kind of comes from
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: your family lineage.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you the Highwayman.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: If you look at it, it's about rape, murder, Revolutionary War.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's about bad stuff. And I was learning
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: about this when I was little, and I was going, oh,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I love that story, Mom, please tell it to me again.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And my grandmother would tell me a ghost story about
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: my great uncle, who actually I wrote about. That is
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: my bedtime story. That's in my very first book. Uh
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: what's over here?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: The dark?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Like that cover, they're all marked. They're all mark. Look,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: they're all mark, all skeletons. I love them. But so
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the bedtime story was about my great uncle riding home
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: on his horse, got caught in a thunderstorm and ducked
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: into this church. Sin weirdness.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: If he's gonna write it, I'm gonna put it up there,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: because that's what we do here. That's what we do.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a little weird.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Awesome. We have an awesome community over here. I love
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it so much. There's no like, no weirdness, and it's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it's so cool. It's so cool. It makes it all right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: So weird stories, and you should were you here, you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: should listen, go back and listen to the story. When
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I had Sarah and my girlfriend, and she told me
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: some of the stories she grew up with here in Mexico.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: A procession right out side of her house. It goes
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: down a hill and then it makes a left turn
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: past the gas station, which wasn't there a time. That
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: makes a right turn and it heads down towards the cemetery.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So there was a procession of people walking down the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: street for some reason. So her uncle or someone like that,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: someone in her family was like, Hey, I'll get in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: this procession. Somebody probably passed and I'm want to, you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: be in the community. He follows these people down to
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the se He walks down and then they make a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: left into the cemetery and go right through the wall,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: right through the wall, and he's like, oh my God,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like runs back to the house and tells everyone. She
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: has stories for days. She her mother. Her mother is
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a just like she does. Her mother goes to people
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: they're Catholic, to go to them and pray, and she
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: actually sings songs for them out of the Bible, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: hymns and things like that, or psalngs. I think, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not a big Bible guy. You can
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: show me if I'm wrong. But she would sing things
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like that or religious songs to help people to have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: nine days of grieving and passing, and so her mother
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just does the praying part. So she goes in there
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: one time sin and there's this woman on the table.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: This person on the table covered in a blanket. She goes, oh,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: that's a little unusual. I guess they just passed. And
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: she starts talking and then the person starts moving. She
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: thought they didn't tell her. They didn't tell her, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, literally runs out there. It's you gotta
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: be careful here, man, this places. I took a video
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: in the cemetery here. They stack them on top of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: one another. It's a wild place. Man.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: What was the what was the woman on the table?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Well, she was she had something, She had something, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: they wanted her to come pray. But they didn't tell
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: her that the woman was still alone, she thought, because
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes they'll go in and they'll be and here in Mexico,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: they'll put the actual casket in the house and they'll
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: do the funeral in the house instead of going to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: an extra place because they can't afford it. So so
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: they were like, okay, I guess the casket and she's like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: what wrapped in this like like a loincloth, like a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: sheet and all of a sudden, this person just starts
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: moving and it's just and it just She was like what.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And because that's the kind of stuff that they'll then
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like it's this person's possessed or something, and they'll jump
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: through and get to you. Yeah, she was like, so yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: please continue. Well, I'm just saying you had some crazy stories.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I want to show you some of mine that I've
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: heard from.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Here, though that would be terrifying. Terrifying to me, No,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: my uncle's is not, but it was to him. He
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: was on his way home and like ducked into this
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: church and it was lightning, and of course this was
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: before electricity. He had tied his horse out front, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: when it would lightning outside, when it was strike, it
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: would light up the inside of the church and that's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the only light he had at that point. And he
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: was sitting on the front row in the pew, just
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: waiting for the storm to pass so he could ride
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the rest of the way home. And he started hearing
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: this shuffle in the back of the church and it's like, no,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. And it
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: would get closer and closer, and every time it would
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: strike outside. He'd look around and not see anything, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: yet he would hear chef getting closer and closer and
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: closer too, and he was getting freaked out. Finally like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: oh no, there's something in here. I can't see it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: There's something in here. I don't know what it is.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I wish the storm would end so I could leave.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But at the very end, these arms reached around him
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and grabbed him. And it was this woman that has
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: had his boat from the poor farm. She was a
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: little bit mental, a little bit imbalanced, and she had
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: stopped in to get out of the rain herself. But
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: she scared the veaginies out of my uncle.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so my grandmother would always tell me the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: story and she'd go, boom, now go to bed, and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I was the next night, I go, Danny Dandy, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Nanny tell me the story and she goes, I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: told it to you. I just please tell it to
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: me again. Oh my lord, I just told you that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: every night. So yeah, I've always liked to be scared.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You've always liked to be scared. So then when you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: when you started coming of age, and like, so, how
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: did the how did the Elk Valley paranormal start.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You know, all these all the shows were on TV,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: everything was happening. I didn't know how to do it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't know how to go about forming one. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: knew I wanted a group because I wanted to investigate
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: some places. I'd been to some of the most wanted
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: places in the world gone walk through them, not investigated them,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: but walk through them. And you know, when you're in
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a place, you can feel the difference and you know, yes, yes,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And especially the older places, like where you are around
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: those ruins, it's just different. It's a kind of a reverence.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Over in England, in the abbey and over where the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Crown Jewels are all that kind of stuff. It's just
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: such old stone hinge. Oh my gosh. The energy over
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: there is off the chart.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird feeling. I mean, the church was
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: kind of creepy, but the pyramid it felt more like
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: a power thing. It felt like I felt very energetic,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: like I was like and it was hot. It's like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: ninety five hundred degrees out there, like I'm just roll
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: around this. And then we also scared a wild cat here,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: not like a jaguar, but something I think like an oscilate,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: but something smaller. I've seen it for a middlesecond. So
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: there's wild. There's some crazy wild animals here are Yeah yeah, beautiful,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: beautiful yeah yeah. So yeah, So you would go in
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: these places you could feel this energy. I'm sorry you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Pyramids. I had to say it again.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Made me think of something I.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Love when you jump in like that. No, I mean,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I've been to Alcatraz. I've been to a bird cage, theater,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Alamo Shrines over in Japan.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Now, when you went to Alcatras, this is this is
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: before or after it shutdown.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: One, just a quick one. I'm gonna fire it out there, right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I would love to go back there, honestly and take
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a group to investigate that place, because that was a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: weird place. Brush here in Tennessee is a weird place.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a heavy feeling. Austin can tell you
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Erics so many institutions. Yeah, I've had Eric on many times.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And Eric Freeman Sims, the owner of the Nighthouse. Go
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: check them out, guys. You can go over there and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: actually book your own paranormal investigation. Him and his him
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and his partner at this place, they fix it up back.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: They really go into detail about the path, about the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: history of these places. And this one interesting. I think
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: it's in Kentucky somewhere, I don't know where. And it's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: now open for business, so you guys can go check
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it out. If you want to do your own paranormal investigating,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: contact Eric Freeman simps. Okay, I'll make sure I do all.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: And if you want to come on a public hunt,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the next one I'm going to be at is the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: first weekend in September. Come do a public hunt with us,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and then Goblin Con where it's going to be this
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: month is the seventieth anniversary of the Hopkinsville incident with
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the goblins.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: What's the explain that one to me?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: The goblins enlighten me.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: No, some goblins dropped in on this family and terrorized them.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, could you describe with a goblin? What does it?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: What does a goblin look like? Really? I don't know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: sim please this it will you know?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: There are there's a couple of books out and I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: wish Eric was on here so he could tell you
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: more about it. But and Austin might be able to
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: tell you a little bit more about it. But yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the Goblin incident, it was almost like a UFO kind
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: of thing, alien ish, and these things terrorized this family.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: And so this month is the seventieth anniversary of the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: actual incident. And yeah, okay, very close, very very close.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Crypto Kentucky and Goblin Con is the first Goblin Con
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of its kind and it's the premiere one and it's
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: going to be October. Tickets went on sale today for it. Okay,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be fun. I'm speaking about signs from our
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: loved ones at that. So that's the cool thing. Ooh,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: just a lot of a lot of interesting things coming out.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Signs from your loved ones, you mean, I I definitely
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I've had h I would say one is kind of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a prophetic dream, a little bit a little bit of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a prophetic dream. But I've had my grandmother visit me
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: twice after she passed, Like where you can smell, i
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: mean literally smell the cigarettes on her, you know, on
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: her hair. And then I asked her if she's okay,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm fine, baby, you know you know
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I mean, it was real, more
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: real than real can be. She was literally she was
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a very short she was like four foot eight, and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: she would she would cook on the stove on a
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: little step stool because she couldn't reach the pot. And
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I walked it behind her and kissed her on her
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: neck like I always did high and uh and uh.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I was like hi, you know the high grandma high
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: baby doing her stuff. And I go, I go, uh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: everything okay. Here my mom and dad's in the backyard
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: barbecue and my old friends people who have passed too.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You know, we had a African American gentleman. It was
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: a big part of our family.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Got out to Carlos Carly we call them Carlos, very
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: funny gentlemen got me and the Richard Pryor and I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: just was like, everything's okay. And she's like, yeah, it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: just weird, Like that's that that stuff happened to me.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Like what, but what other signs like let me know
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you're so knowledgeable about a lot or you've learned a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: lot about this stuff, what kind of science everything?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Like what you just talked about people that have the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: thing about the dreams that people have about their loved
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: ones that they know that they're a little bit more
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: than dreams is they're so vivid that they can recall
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: them years and years and years after they've happened. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: you know, normal dreams, you just they kind of come.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And go yep.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: But those visions are the ones that stayed with you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: And those are the ones that people swear that my
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: grandmother was really here, my uncle really came to see me.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Wyatt has come to see his mother my sister twice
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: in dreams and she woke up out of the dreams
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and he was standing at the foot of the bed.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: That's a bit much for me. I'm a little bit
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: scaredy pooper. I'm a scaredy pooper for sure.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Oh let me tell you something. So whyat I've been
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: telling a lot about him because he pops in a lot,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and I'll talk about him a lot on the shows.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So I was on a podcast, Unraveling the Darkness Out.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: It was on the East Coast. One guy was in
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: New York. The other guy had moved from Ohio to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: South Carolina and they were doing the podcast together. So
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I was their guest one night. And you know, doing
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the podcast, you got the mass sound and we each
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: have our own tracks, right, and you can isolate Oh yeah, you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Can isolate them and clean them if necessary.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of the guys afterwards reached out and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: he said, I've already found eight EVPs, one from my end,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: one on your end, many mine, and the other ones
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: are on Joe the New Yorkers end. And he said,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: do you want to hear the one that I found
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: on yours? And I said yes, please.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I would be like I wouldn't say please, but I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: would be like.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yees, yeah that see, this is even more validation it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I was talking about Wyatt, telling about the first EVP
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I got from him, while my sister was telling the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: story that's about to come out in this now book.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And I was telling that story, he asked me he
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: had seen me on another podcast and said, please tell
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: that story, and please if you would play that EVP,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and I did so. He's going back through my audio
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and he pulled out Wyatt's voice saying his name while
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I was talking about him. And it is so clear. Again,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: it is so clear that it's just amazing. Mark has
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: told me a lot of times whenever we talk about
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: our loved ones that have passed, they hear us whether
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: they could check in with us or not.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You know, or maybe if you can perceive it or
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: not too.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And a lot of times you don't know
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: it at the time, but like on those EVPs, you
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: know it afterwards. So I was talking about Wyatt and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: he actually said his name, and it's I told the guy,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I said, you're not going to believe this, but I'm
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: going to give you the phone number so you can
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: call and listen to his voice on his cell phone.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And he says Wyat, just like he said on that show,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and the guy. The guy wrote me back, you would
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is him. Yes, that's my baby.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: That's why we have a We.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Have a very interesting remark from Unreal real Estate age.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I want to read it. Uh, it's fantastic. Here. I
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: kind of read it at the same time listening, so
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I'm my brain's split into but I did. I'll read
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it again so I can refresh my brain.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I've had dreams where I went I went to someone
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: in their dream and we shared the dream. Once a
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: friend who was awake told me I came into her
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: room and sat down, said hi, and then left. After
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: So like astral projection.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Like astral projection. That's that's it. It's a little much.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I know about it. Lucid dreaming. I know a little
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: about it. I kinda I kind of shy away from
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it because I just it's unncessary. I just want to sleep.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be doing stuff, you know, I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to do It's like that. It's like that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It's like that old Mitch Hedberg joke. He goes, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you know, sleeping is supposed to be a relaxing affair.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, I'm building a building a go
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: kart with my ex landlord.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I just want to rest.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I just want to like chill out. That's all cool. Yeah. Yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So those the two were mind The first, the one
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I was telling you about, was so very realistic, you
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was very really I felt
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like I was back in Baltimore, where I'm from. We
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: were in a row home, kind of remember the way.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I even remember where the house looked, the smells, the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: wish she was cooking, and the barbecuing. I guess she
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: was doing something separate in the kitchen and they were
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: barbecuing in the back like always was when I grew up.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: But the second one was almost kind of pest pastel.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: What's the word in German and English? Pastel pastel colored
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and German's pastelle. So my brain doesn't make this seat
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: there it is again And it was like that, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: like I remember the tulips in the yard blowing side
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: for side, and I was on the front porch and
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it was the prophetic one. It was on the front porch.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: There was clouds and thunder in the sky, a storm
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: was coming in and I heard her voice very strongly.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: This is back when I was an atheist. Her her
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: voice came in very strongly, like a many I mean,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it was the word will never repeat my escape my
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: head and it was repeated like five six times, and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it said of repentance. So I literally woke up what
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on Google and said what does that mean? And now
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I know what it means? Yeah, And then so that
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: was that was a sign. That was the strongest. I mean,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I could smell the the rain in the air, if
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it was like it
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was wild, but it was it was like almost cartoonish like,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: but it was also real. Its like in between the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: two It's hard to describe, but it was. I remember
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it very well. I mean you feel the ground shaking
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: from the thunderbolts hitting close by. Yeah, And it was
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: her voice repentance. And she wasn't and she wasn't a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: very religious person. I mean, she got saved, you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of years before she decided to you know,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: before forth that decide it, but before she passed. And uh,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: it was just one of those things where you're just like, Okay,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: what what was that? You know, It's it's pretty wild, man,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the way they do come back.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it is. I am talking about astral projection
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: from in the chat. A friend of mine actually has
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a story in this Death Doorstep Dimensions. It's Nicole, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: she also had a story about astral projection. She's been
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: doing that since she was little, and you know, really
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: she was just a natural at it. And her mother
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: would come in saying what are you doing and she
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: would say, I'm looking over and she'd go stop that,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: stop that's evil. Don't do that. So she learned to
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: hide it. But it was kind of a journey of
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: her and to go places and to figure out herself.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: And she as she got older and realized what was happening.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: She knew what was going on, so she she embraced it,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and she worked on it and strengthened it. So fast
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: forward to her father being in hospital and he's having
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to stay there for a little while, and it was
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: during COVID, so they couldn't go in a lot. You
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: could have one visitor, you know, yeah, yeah, solaces, right,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. And I think this was after
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: it had gotten really you know, back loosened up a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: little bit, but the wife was able to go in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I think once again, and Nicole started astro projecting to
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: him and just coming back since she couldn't stop in.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: She would say love your daddy, you know, and kind
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: of had him a little bit, and then she would
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: wake up and go do her thing. And so one
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: night when her mom was visiting, he said, tell Nikki,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I appreciate her visiting me. And her mother said, what
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: are you talking about? And she said, just tell her that,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: but tell her I want her to do something so
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: she'll know what I'm talking about. Okay, So they passed
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: that along and after her mother said are you doing
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: that again? And she said, maybe maybe I am, maybe
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not. But they passed on the message that her
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: dad had a message for her to take care of.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: So she looked into it and on her next astral projection,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: she noticed that he couldn't sleep. He was right by
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the nurses station and they would not shut up, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: his door was open, and so she started projecting to
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: them that he needed to rest, close his door so
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: he can rest. And she did that just a few
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: minutes and the nurse got up and went over and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: shut his door. Her mother comes back and he said,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: tell Nicole, thank you. I've got the best rest of
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the evening.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Now, how okay, being a religious woman as yourself, how
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: do you square because you know a lot of people
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: they will go strictly these kind of things are not
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to be you know, to be allowed or accepted. They're demonic. Uh.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: You know there's people who also say that bigfoot is
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: enough eliminence, demonic. You know there's a lot of that too. Now,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: how do you square that with your worldview being who
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you are as a person. That's a deep question. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: finally got one out there.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Well. First off, if anybody tells me that whyat coming
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: back to me is a demon, I'm going to say
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're enough, fair enough, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: have no idea. That is my baby. That is my baby.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: And for the most part, you're not going to convince anybody,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: so I just don't argue.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Great, So, like you're like, it's kind of a kind
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: of something that I've always believed in, Like knowledge is
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: always experience based, but solely upon the subjective point of view.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Like what I've experienced is what I know, and what
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you experience is what you know. In your connection to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the divine or the afterlife or whatever it may be
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: is solely upon you. And how you choose to live
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: your life is the way you do it. As long
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: as you know that you can close your eyes at
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: night and go to sleep knowing that you've still done
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the right thing. I think that's absolutely.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: And respect everybody. Just respect each other, you know, don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: talk down to people. Don't say, oh, you're doing this wrong,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: this is wrong. Well it might not be to them, right,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: right them? So yeah, nobody's going to talk me out
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: of this. The signs that I have seen myself and
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  Speaker 2: heard from other people that I trust in to know
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  Speaker 2: that they're telling me the truth. Right, You're never going
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  Speaker 2: to change my mind. You're just not. And I'm here
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  Speaker 2: to offer those stories to people so they can make
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  Speaker 2: their own decisions. Some are harder to believe than others.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know. Some Well it's the same as people
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: who've had who've had you know, like you know what
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: they deem to be, you know, in their own life,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: you know, divine intervention or the connection with God themselves
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and their belief and you know, whatever they believe in,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: whether whatever religion or whatever they follow, that's personal to them,
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  Speaker 1: between them and God. So why wouldn't this be the
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  Speaker 1: personal between you and one of your loved ones. God
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  Speaker 1: is one of your loved ones. He loves you. It's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: kind of It's not the same thing, but there's something
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  Speaker 1: to it that's similar.
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  Speaker 2: Does a true line, you know, yeah, you know, but
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: even in families, some families can't discuss things like this.
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  Speaker 2: My mother never accepted anything like this. When I first
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: started into paranormal investigating, she was terrified, this is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: You're playing with demons, you are this is the Bible belt.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we grew up not talking about haunted things.
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  Speaker 2: And even though I was trying to read everything I
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: could about them, and you know, watch every horror story
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I could, and we just you didn't talk about it. Yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: so when things would happen, I mean it took me,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I guess until when I started in paranormal investigating in
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. My cousin, Yes, my cousin, who is I
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: think she's six or seven, you're younger than me. I.
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  Speaker 2: She started telling me things that she had experienced growing up. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we never talked about it because we weren't allowed to, right,
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  Speaker 2: and so right, you know, people just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there is that, you know, there is the aspect
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  Speaker 1: of you know, especially in like Appalachia. It's a very
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it's a very Christian area, but it's also a very
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: spooky ancient area. And there is people that go missing.
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  Speaker 1: There are some there are I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 1: that there's not there. There definitely is some evil in
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the world. That's for sure. That's for sure. But I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: always thought, you know, if you know, if I'm created
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in you know, in God's image, then that divine light
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: shines in me as well, and if I project that
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: out and then let people know. So so you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people it's fear of the unknown. Yeah,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and and if it kind of contradicts or goes again.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: It's something they've might experience at been negative or I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: have heard because you know, you get back in some
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: of those hollows in West Virginia and Kentucky and things
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of that, their stories of you know, Chinel's and witches
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, and there's also the negative connotation of
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the witch that's been projected through Hollywood and bad stories.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: But there's also people it's like it's kind of like
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: a dirty word, but and sometimes it is dirty, but
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's not exactly it's all about the individual. It's
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: about the individual. It's perspective. Yeah, and and and uh,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: it's the word your intention, Your intention is everything. Yeah,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Mark's up in here. What's that Mark? Ancient stuff?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: You said witch?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And there he appears, Well, he was already over here,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: but I just didn't Yeah, he was ever saying. I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: can't remember what he was saying that I was. It
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: was just it wasn't I don't know. I just didn't
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: grab it because yeah, Yo, sorry, Mark on, I'm able
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: to write back if I'm over here on the over
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: here on which mahosie whatever this is, yo, Yeah, it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting So, what's what's up next for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: you about my friend? What's what's up next? You say
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: you're writing another book.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this second Signs book will be out at
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: the end of this month. I've got speaking engagements. Have
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: told you about Goblin Con coming up in October. I'll
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: also be helping Regina, my friend Regina over at the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Antoinette Hall in Pulaski three dates in October. So those
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: are public hunts and that's going to be fun. In September,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I'll be up in Indiana with the middle Aged and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Creaked Out guys and it's a middle aged and creaked
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Out podcast. I've heard them, I've heard so fun. I'll
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: actually get to meet them in person. Austin. Austin was
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: asked back to speak and he says he says he
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: only told them only if you invite sin. Now I'm
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: not really sure about that, but I did invite me,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to go speak to So I'm going
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: to talk about Signs. He's going to talk about all
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: the stuff he does, and that should be fun.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's love looking forward to that's that's that's incredible.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: It's just, uh, you're very prolific and I really, I really, Uh,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: you give me a lot of motivation. Sometimes I go,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta get my shit together. And it's
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: always always a blast to have you on one more time.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: What's the name of your book and where can people
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: find it? My friend?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: The newest one is Death Storstep. It's Near Death Experiences,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Angel Rescues and Spirit Warnings on Amazon, paperback, hardback, audible,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: and kindle.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Cool. But I'm gonna grab Marx's book here one time
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that you helped that you have to edit. Let me
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: see if I can grab it my computer super slow.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Here it is. It's called it my my mean old
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Grandma's cookbook, old cookbook and more. You find that on Amazon,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and you edited that for a long.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Time, fourteen and a half months right.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: There, right, and then Mark writes, it's groovy.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: It is groovy, it is grevy.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: So as always said, it's been a pleasure. Don't be
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: a stranger. We can come on and we just uh,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: we'll just have I think whatever. Like I said, I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: got to update this computer. We'll see how that works,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: because you can see that sometimes I'm having issues today.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: What it long? Yeah, that's the way Mark talks. That's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: the way you talk, it's always a pleasure to have
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you on. I appreciate it so very much. And don't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: be a stranger.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, never never be a stranger. Thank you guys in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: the chat. Love you all, y'all.
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