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- 0:02Drinking Day, Drinking, Drink Dog Day, drinking Welcome back today, drink
- 0:16good Dog. We are here at Nautilus Milford down in the Devon area.
- 0:20Crystalline Nick have been lifelong passion to get this operation up and running. It's
- 0:25beautiful in here. They completely redid it. If you remember the old Alphas,
- 0:29it was like a pizza on one side and kind of a don't want
- 0:31to say Dingi bar on the right, but a little Dingi bar on the
- 0:34right. Now it's all real done. They flipped it so the bar is
- 0:37on the left now when you walk in and the dining room is on the
- 0:40right. They're serving pizza, salad, sandwiches, full menu. They ease
- 0:45their way into it. Everything looks good. I'm down here for about an
- 0:48hour. It's the ribbon cutting today Wednesday, the twenty fifth, or twenty
- 0:53six, whatever day it is. Had so many twenty six Wednesday twenty six
- 0:56this week. So um, I'm gonna have Nick on Crystalline and and maybe
- 1:00a surprise guest or two. The Pizza guck Bones are down here to do
- 1:03a pizza review. So we're up and running, ready to go. Uh
- 1:07gonna go grab a quick shot at Jamison and then we'll get on our way.
- 1:14Did you want me to take these all? Right? No, you're
- 1:15on ron kids. Oh it knicks back here finally right around. Just had
- 1:19the ribbon cutting. Good job, you had the mayor here. Yeah,
- 1:23well the mayor, uh what do you call that? Uh out fill in
- 1:29mayor? The lame duck oh duck mayor. Yeah he's here. Is that
- 1:34what it's called? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that.
- 1:37It's like a lame duck president, like you can't run anymore, got it?
- 1:40You know he's out right, right, so yeah, so like he's
- 1:42still mayor, but not long. That's right. In ten years, nobody
- 1:46will know the difference. Um, hey, congrats, buddy, this place
- 1:52is gorgeous. I was here for kind of your non grand opening grand opening.
- 1:57Uh. The pizza was fantastic, the salads were great, But I
- 2:00was here before you really got everything going food wise. Yep. So what's
- 2:07on the what's new when the menu? You've got a full menu? Know,
- 2:08yeah, so we got a full menu. Now, we got uh
- 2:10appetizers, we got soups, salads, handhelds wraps, uh, pizza,
- 2:15and we have entres too. Um. Eventually we're gonna get brunch and do
- 2:21desserts too Sunday. Yeah, we're gonna do Sunday brunches eventually. And uh,
- 2:24we gotta get desserts on the menu too. Yeah, yeah, because
- 2:28I love desserts. But um yeah, I mean the burger, the naughty
- 2:32burger we have is a mate. I'm telling you got to try it.
- 2:36It's really good. Yeah. We got a really good chicken sandwich. We
- 2:38got some chicken kebabs. We've got a nice lobster roll. I know you're
- 2:42stone Bridge, but you know, hey, listen, I'm not saying it
- 2:46tops that, but it's good. It's good. When I don't work,
- 2:50I don't eat there. You know, I try other places. I've been
- 2:53there twenty three years. You say I want to eat there. I'm the
- 2:57same Listen. That's happening with me now here already. Right, Like we've
- 3:00been open two months and I was like, so what else we got?
- 3:02What are the specials? Yeah, that's only I look at the stobs,
- 3:05O, what are the specials tonight? Everything else? So when we did
- 3:08the soft opening, we were like kind of introducing like different parts of the
- 3:12menu, like one at a time, and like for a whole week,
- 3:15it would be like just handhelds, right, you know, and like at
- 3:17the end of the week, I was like, please, can we just
- 3:19can we start the next thing something? You know, like if I have
- 3:22any more burgers, I'm gonna just explode, you know, I gotta have
- 3:24something different, right. I love the garage door. You guys just opened
- 3:29that up. Now are you gonna be able to have table side or tables
- 3:34going to do a little bit nothing crazy because we wanted it all that,
- 3:37Yeah? Yeah, or the mayor doesn't have to know kind of thing.
- 3:38Yeah yeah, yeah, you know that's why you're taken. Now. You
- 3:42know we're gonna we're gonna cancel the Chamber of Commerce. No, I'm only
- 3:46I saw. So I went out for the ribber cutting, was kind of
- 3:49setting up in the back, and I realized everyone was no one in here.
- 3:51So I ran outside and I saw people like up in the windows and
- 3:53the neighbors all looking down and clapping telling me after like we had a front
- 3:58row spot. I was, yeah, that's pretty cool, know what.
- 4:00So you guys, so this podcast probably won't help you for today like this
- 4:06event, because it won't get out for a little bit, but sure,
- 4:10uh do you guys have an entertainment you guys, yes, are you doing
- 4:15the bands in the weekends. We're really excited you were able to come do
- 4:18a live podcast with out that's super cool. Um, we're gonna be doing
- 4:21a live pizza uh stream tasting stream with Frank Sibiski, the the Pizza ga
- 4:29Vone. Yes, I watched their review. I watched one of the reviews.
- 4:32Yeah, he's really good, dude, really cool guy. Awesome.
- 4:35Um. He also does pizza classes. That's pretty cool. So he teaches
- 4:40how to make New Haven soal pizza. Um. But we also have um
- 4:43live music, we have a DJ coming. Um, we have a wine
- 4:46tasting set up, free raffles and giveaways. And now the lady doing the
- 4:50wine is cool. Uh she's yeah, yes, Sammy yeah yeah yeah.
- 4:56Nice guys would telling me about that before you Yeah, now I'd have to
- 5:00go back. But when did you guys come on the show November? No,
- 5:05it was longer than that. So it was for the football yeah giveaway
- 5:12that you were doing, Yes, and I lost in the finals terribly,
- 5:15so we were hoping back then you guys would be believed it with Marcel Ross's
- 5:20monkey's name from friends that I knew that was one of the questions, but
- 5:27can you answer my contest this one? I just did I which would it's
- 5:31you just picked the NBA and NHL winner. I did not know. No,
- 5:35you're too did not. I don't even have a prize pool for you.
- 5:38I just figured it takes it takes two months to right. By the
- 5:42time I get there, I'll have figure it out. And already some teams
- 5:46are dropping out. So it's it's funny how sports us so everyone did they
- 5:49know it all and it's so hard to predict. But you have a great
- 5:51turnout right now. I know you're busy. Just want to snag you and
- 5:56I'll snack Crystal for ten minutes. Awesome. Uh, one of those pizza
- 5:59guys get in here. I'd love to have one of those guys. The
- 6:01is he here now? Is going to be? I asked if he could
- 6:04come at between three and three thirty. All right, I'll be around for
- 6:10a little bit. Awesome. Um, he's really It's a great turn out
- 6:13everyone. I'm actually gonna post the video now of the ribbon cutting, okay,
- 6:16and try to get some people to ask you too before I go.
- 6:18What do you think of Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets. Man, it's
- 6:23funny. He just he just just as you were. I was waiting for
- 6:26you to come on. He made a quote it's hold on. Oh boy,
- 6:29I can't wait to hear it. Uh he said, I'm an old
- 6:32guy, so I want to be a part of a team that can win
- 6:35it all. That's it. That's the typical Jets. They should win ten
- 6:41eleven. They should win ten or eleven games. I agree, I think.
- 6:46I mean, you know, they got a good Jets, got a
- 6:46really good defense to get a good team. I'm not an Aaron Rodgers fan.
- 6:51Yeah, uh there. I mean, I don't mind him. I
- 6:54used to root for the lines for a long time, so I hated Aaron
- 6:57n. Yeah. You know, here's the guy I think the night.
- 7:00I think that the first six seven games, yeah, are gonna be so
- 7:04important. Like if they don't start five and two, if they're like three
- 7:08and four, yeah, Like I could just see him checking out and like
- 7:12collecting his fifty five. Yeah. Yeah. So I haven't really seen the
- 7:15schedule yet. I don't think they've released it yet. So I'd like to
- 7:18see who they play there. You know, they're gonna get primetime games.
- 7:21Now that the Jets on price, it's gonna be all I think they have
- 7:26six of them now because the Aaron Rodgers makes it makes sense. Yeah,
- 7:29makes they got a hell of a team. I mean, I can't knock
- 7:31them. But if as much as I love the Lions, you know,
- 7:34yeah, which, by the way, they may be a dark horse this
- 7:38year. We'll see. I mean, if they stop gambling, I got
- 7:42I do they off like four guys on their team, like you gotta go,
- 7:45you gotta go, You're out. Like they couldn't cut Williams. Yeah
- 7:47they could. All these Alabama wide receivers love they gamble on football on team
- 7:53property. Uh but yeah, I actually like Detroit. I think I think
- 7:57they should. I should be pretty good, I think, or at least
- 8:00a playoff contender at the very least. Yeah. Um, so you know,
- 8:03are they gonna go anywhere? It's Detroit? R know they always fizzle
- 8:05out, But we'll see. Yeah, I mean, we could come on
- 8:09and do a whole football show at the beginning of the year. That'd be
- 8:11awesome. Absolutely football. I guess so many people that want to do it,
- 8:15And I joke, I'm like, you should get a fantasy league going
- 8:18make it a whole part of your thing, you know, just kind of
- 8:20talks crap each other, talk shit. Yeah right, I just do like
- 8:26a Monday or like a Tuesday night show. Yeah yeah, if you were
- 8:28to stream that. I just suck at fantasy. Actually this year I had
- 8:31a good year, dude. That's the best part. It's honestly thirteen and
- 8:35one. But I lost in the final. It doesn't even matter, though
- 8:39you could. You could have all the knowledge in the world. People get
- 8:41hurt. People get hurt, you know. You know, you guys come
- 8:45up that nobody ever heard of against somebody that they're they're shitty players. That's
- 8:48right. Yeah, you can't. You can't control that. It's not like
- 8:52it's not like GMing a real team exactly that you're gonna put out there every
- 8:54year. But uh, Nick again, congratulations, what if the turnouts only
- 9:00two thirty? Now, I don't think anyone works in Milford anymore? Uh
- 9:05both turn out? You got wine, you got a DJ comming. Yeah,
- 9:09we got tribe here too. Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are always
- 9:13uh always in live locally, so that's great. Yeah, and the bar
- 9:16looks beautiful. Yeah, So congratulations, buddy. We're gonna get Crystalline here.
- 9:20Awesome, Thank you guys, Jeremy, thank you so much. Manlid
- 9:22you're being on the show. Absolutely yep, all right, so we just
- 9:26had Nikka on, but now we got Crystalline. She's the real Uh,
- 9:28you're the You're the real person behind the scenes here, the one that really
- 9:31makes it happen. We all know that Nick's a great guy. Now I'm
- 9:35just kidding. It's just my OCD and he works well with it, believe
- 9:39Yeah. No, I was just telling him, awesome turnout it's not even
- 9:43three o'clock yet. Uh. Ribbon cutting went great. I was I was
- 9:46looking around and people were in their windows, yeah, clapping and looking down.
- 9:50Yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't even notice that. Yeah, it
- 9:54was pretty neat, pretty neat, which I know. One of your biggest
- 9:58things was was really you didn't want to be the alpha's of the community.
- 10:01You didn't want the noise complaints. You wanted to integratiate yourself nicely, you
- 10:07know, be the local tavern for you know, the Devon area, whatever
- 10:11you want to call it. Uh. So I think you're off to a
- 10:15great start with that. Thank you so much. The community has been amazing.
- 10:18Yeah, people all the other business owners have popped in checked on us.
- 10:22Hey, can we do anything anything you need let us know, Like
- 10:24it really has been amazing. Yeah, uh, you got a lot of
- 10:28stuff going on over here. Kind of tell me what's going on. You
- 10:31got the wine, which is yep. So Deborah Capone is our somalier.
- 10:35She's she's here when she's here pretty much three days a week normally Thursday,
- 10:41Friday, Saturday. Yeah. Um, but that that's probably gonna turn into
- 10:46more if need be. She's also going to start doing, um every six
- 10:50weeks, doing a wine tasting. Oh nice. I believe she decided on
- 10:54thirty five dollars in advance and you get to try ten different organics. A
- 10:58great. Yeah, she's so knowledgeable and she's fun. Yeah, she's from
- 11:05Brooklyn. She just bought a house here about five lucks up from here.
- 11:09She remodeled the whole thing. So now she's slowly becoming a part of us.
- 11:13That's awesome. Yeah, I love her. She's great. I remember
- 11:15when I came down to Visia before you open and you told me about that.
- 11:18I said, uh, you just missed this high five. I said,
- 11:24you're getting a solved and you're like, yeah, I'm like, I
- 11:26don't even know where there is one in the hundred mile radius outside of New
- 11:30York City. It's fantastic. So I'm not gonna lie. It's a little
- 11:33skeptical how that might work, but it's fucking working. And that's yeah,
- 11:37you know what, every I don't know about you, but like I've been
- 11:39to to hiring fine dining restaurants and it's definitely they're very like to the point
- 11:45right, Yeah, they're very knowledgeable, but they're not I mean, they
- 11:48come to the table, they tell you X, Y and Z and that's
- 11:50it. DEVI will interact with you. Yeah, she wants to get to
- 11:54know you. She wants to really teach you about the wine. So I
- 11:58think that that, along with her personality, really does make a big difference.
- 12:01And he's offering great wines. My first experience was when ever was I
- 12:05worked at the Marriott in Pontovitra Beach and it was this old man, you
- 12:11know, eighty two years old, and he just had a cart he pushed
- 12:13around table to the table, and not even the fancy restaurant. He did
- 12:16it in the you know, kind of the family style restaurant at the hotel
- 12:20and he was awesome, but he was old, you know, so like
- 12:26he kind of wanted to just make a sale and move on. So every
- 12:28once in a while i'd catch him before his shift and just pick his brain
- 12:31about stuff. And he would organize all the big wine seminars for management,
- 12:35Like all the Marriotts in Florida would come to our hotel for these wine classes.
- 12:41I just never could, Like, it's a lot, it's a lot.
- 12:46She'll just be talking about something and mentioned the kind of great the location,
- 12:50the temperature. I'm like, I don't know how you do that,
- 12:52but people I feel if if they order cabernet and you pour him a fucking
- 12:56pinot, they're just gonna drink it, not even know the different now.
- 12:58And that's true, that is very true. But here so she'll educate the
- 13:03table, she'll try to upsell a little bit, which is great. Great,
- 13:07that's awesome between her and like we have Jenny our bar manager, Brody
- 13:11r chef QR chef. Like it's really developed into much more than we ever
- 13:18thought. Yeah, but in such a good way, right, Like we
- 13:22all work so well together. It's crazy. Yeah, I love it.
- 13:24I was at uh, I was at stone Rig yesterday meeting Gabby and she
- 13:31needed some gift cards for a fund raiser. And she's like, oh my
- 13:33god, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna miss you tomorrow. And I'm like
- 13:37where and she's like, no, down in Nautilus. I'm like, oh,
- 13:41yeah, I'm gonna be there, and she goes, yeah, well
- 13:43I gotta work at you know, Paradise Pieces, the other place she works
- 13:46at. I go, oh, were you just gonna come down? She
- 13:48goes, no, I work there. And I'm like, oh see,
- 13:50I don't know the staff yet. I mean, I know Audra obviously,
- 13:54you know, and I know all those you know, I know a lot
- 13:56of the people that work here, but I didn't know she worked here.
- 13:58And I'm like, that's awesome. Yeah she's here. I know that girl
- 14:00for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. She said three nights a week.
- 14:03I think three, yeah, I think it's days are days? Yeah?
- 14:05Yeah? But um yeah she's great too. I'm so thankful for this
- 14:09staff. The entire staff is amazing. Yeah, they're such hard workers.
- 14:13They love this place, I feel like as much as we do. And
- 14:16it really shows. Yeah. I mean, and some of them waited eight
- 14:20months for us to open, right, And that's the I found that out
- 14:24opening. It's like you find somebody you really want. Now, if it's
- 14:28their side gig, it's a little easier. But if they're looking for a
- 14:31permanent job, how do you hold them off? How do you hold them
- 14:33off? How do you hold them off? You know for that long?
- 14:35I know, you know that happens at stone Bridge. You know, we'll
- 14:39hire somebody in March and look at the weather. Now we're almost in May
- 14:41and it's crowd now. You know, we had two good days. That
- 14:43was it, you know, So so what are your your are your obviously
- 14:46seven days a week right for six six year off? Monday Mondays? Yeah,
- 14:50Mondays are closed? Are you Italian? I am Italian? I figured
- 14:54as much Italian grey that built in day off, I think I I think
- 15:00it's a good reset day though, because we're still all here, yeah,
- 15:03like we do our inventory, still working. Yeah, but it gives us
- 15:07that day to kind of like brainstorm about the week. Yeah, maybe talk
- 15:09about how the week went. You could press a little bit while you're working,
- 15:13yeah, and really have like round tables. We all talk so much,
- 15:16but we don't talk about like we don't have the time during the week
- 15:22to really sit down and be like, okay, so this this and this,
- 15:24you know, like what happened? What could we do to fix it?
- 15:26What was good? So Mondays we take that time too, and then
- 15:30we kick out by like seven and we all get a night off. You
- 15:31know. It's funny, is we close? You know? Stonemer's closes for
- 15:35that week in January? Yeah, and it's like the best week ever,
- 15:39Like you just don't have to think about anything, like restaurants that are twenty
- 15:43four seven not twenty four seven, you know what I mean? Seven days
- 15:45a week. It's like it's just you can't have you feel like you can
- 15:48never catch up. Yep. Not saying the Stonemach should be closed on Mondays
- 15:52because they do enough business, but it would you know, I understand why
- 15:56restaurants do it. Yeah, you know, and you guys are lunched six
- 15:58days a week though, and uh time closed during the week ten pm,
- 16:03nine pm for food, ten pm for bar. The weekends is ten pm
- 16:07for food, Uh, midnight for the bar. Okay, yep, that's
- 16:12good. So you're not you're not going to that two thirty. We didn't
- 16:17want that, Yeah, like we we we want to be more definitely more
- 16:19of a restaurant. We have an awesome bar, yeah, and we have
- 16:22great cocktails. But like everyone wants to take good body or hide you.
- 16:30Um, but that's why we stuck me back by the bathrooms. That's fine,
- 16:34it's right. We put you back here in the by the way where
- 16:37we're sitting right now when it was Alpha's does not look anything. I know.
- 16:44We just finished, Like all this little stuff I finished. I started
- 16:47the honor wall this week. I hope to get it full. Anybody who's
- 16:52out there that is military veteran, come give me your picture for our honor
- 16:56Wall. And you also get thirty percent off food every day for military,
- 17:00police, firefighters, healthcare. Wow, every day. I mean companies like
- 17:04Texas Roadhouse I don't do that, but it's ten percent. You guys are
- 17:08doing thirty percent off food. Yep. Wow, they deserve it. That
- 17:12is uh, that's amazing. That's something I didn't know, and that's something
- 17:15I'll promote for you that we have to get back. You know, I
- 17:22served a very very long time ago. I'm fucking old now, but I
- 17:26lived in an error when I enlisted in two thousand and one where it was
- 17:29like it's way different than it is now, and I feel like we should
- 17:33give back. Yeah, living through it especially, I almost feel like the
- 17:36ten percent is like, oh gee, thanks, I know, I got
- 17:38a fifty dollars burger. I'm saving a buck fifty. Yeah, you know,
- 17:42me and Nick were like thirty all day good and you know that clientele
- 17:47likes to drink. Oh yeah, so I mean I love it. Come
- 17:51in, get a good burger, pizza and yeah. And so that's why
- 17:55I didn't. I don't think I said to Nick. But that's all I've
- 17:57really had here was the pizza. And I had a salad too. Uh.
- 18:02The pizza, it was phenomenal. We got that steak and cheese one.
- 18:06Oh that's my favorite. Oh my god, that is literally my favorite.
- 18:10And then we got another one with like vegetables on it. And I'm
- 18:12not a veggie guy. Yeah, I don't know you'd tell by looking at
- 18:15me, but that Philly steak and cheese one was was to die for.
- 18:21And bye Honey by Aim and that naughty sauce. Yes, I put that
- 18:26shit on everything. And when Brody came up, like we were talking about
- 18:33a special sauce, right, and I gave him some ideas. He he
- 18:37came out with it, and I was like, that is the best fucking
- 18:38sauce I've ever had in my life. I love it. And it was
- 18:41his first go ye, and we loved it so much that we rolled with
- 18:44it. I know I was, I was, you know, I know,
- 18:45I know why you guys did it. You know you rolled out the
- 18:48menu the way you did. Yeah, Honestly, I wish more restaurants would
- 18:51do it that way because I feel the first three weeks aren't fair to judge
- 18:56a restaurant. So the way you guys did it, I thought was perfectly.
- 18:59You know, you know your pizza is gonna be good. Let's start
- 19:02with that and salads, and I think it soups too, and then let's
- 19:04do the handhelds and then the apps and all that and the rest. And
- 19:10was it pretty seamless for you guys? Yeah? And you know what what
- 19:12I loved about it and why like the recommendation was made, is that I've
- 19:17worked in a kitchen too. I'm I'm a chef, I'm trained chef.
- 19:19That's where I started opening up a restaurant. And you start the whole menu
- 19:22right, it's you don't have the time to learn that exact plating that that
- 19:27meal everything. So doing it this way it made it more soon and how
- 19:30much you prepay one You're like, you don't know what people are gonna worn,
- 19:34Like pizza easy, you make dough and you make you have you have
- 19:37your shit on the side, yep. But when you're talking about sandwiches and
- 19:41appetizers and salads, like how much shit? And then you could get stuck
- 19:45with stuff that no one yep, especially having pizza. Everyone wants pizza,
- 19:48yep. You know. So I think it was smart to start with that.
- 19:52Like first five days, we sold six hundred pizzas. Did you really
- 19:55in five days? Wow? I couldn't believe it. I was like,
- 19:57holy shit, right, they were making like fresh to I mean every it
- 20:03was just insane. Yeah. They were like, is this how pizza's gonna
- 20:06be? And I was like, oh maybe, and it has not changed
- 20:08that much. Yeah, it's crazy. So I asked Nick, you guys
- 20:11are gonna be doing some bands, like so definitely. The acoustic is well,
- 20:17we have a guy coming today yep, mister Moral from West Shore.
- 20:22He's actually coming to play some acoustic music for us from four to six and
- 20:26then that's probably like on a Sunday afternoon a Saturday afternoon. That'll probably be
- 20:32like what we'll try to get in here right when we do charities, because
- 20:36we want to do charities as much as we can. We'll probably get full
- 20:37bands in here for charities. Well yeah, it's not like drums or anything.
- 20:41But yeah, we want us try to do once we're rocking and rolling.
- 20:45When we get through the summer. We want to try to do once
- 20:48a month a local charity, you know, either something with the community or
- 20:52a veteran one or something. But once a month, we'd like to do
- 20:55that. Yeah, you got a great neighborhood down here, Yeah, get
- 20:57involved. Yep. I used to live down here. I used to live
- 21:00down this way. I don't know. We lived in the same house.
- 21:03I know all about the same time. We lived in the apartment we high
- 21:07five. Yeah, as we were leaving in Common that's right, nine Ocean,
- 21:11nine Ocean. Yeah. Now, you told me a story. That
- 21:15place almost fucking blew up, right gas somebody had a gas leaker. Yeah
- 21:21it was it was next door. Oh my god, it was so bad.
- 21:23Now they knocked that house down, and well I lived I lived next
- 21:26to those hoarders with their thirty cats. Now I don't want to like bring
- 21:30this whole day down. I know, you gotta go. You're looking around.
- 21:33I get it that lady put dogs in a bag. I know.
- 21:37I article upstairs. Yeah, I found the article in the apartment upstairs,
- 21:42did you. Yeah? And I was like, that's ridiculous. People were
- 21:45just like walking up the street and they heard they saw a bag moving and
- 21:48heard a little rustling. There was like two dead dogs and two live dog.
- 21:51Oh my god, how we get that for them? They got arrested
- 21:56for that, and then they got evicted, and then it was a place
- 21:59still there, well she was still there, but I remember they were.
- 22:03They did so they did and not be beautiful. I think it was the
- 22:11Fields brothers built a beautiful house. It was yeah, yeah, it's beautiful.
- 22:15I always like the house next to us. I love that was an
- 22:19house. Yeah, that was a nice road. I'd like to living over
- 22:22there down a Devon Crystal. Thanks so much. I know you're like Jones
- 22:30going to get back behind that ball. Absolutely, I'll stick around for a
- 22:34little bit. If the Gavones guys show up coming, Yeah, Frank is
- 22:38coming. He's awesome. Yeah, I'll get them on and uh, we'll
- 22:41wrap it up and I'll got some videos up hermote and all that good stuff.
- 22:45Thank you. I feel like I've grown up with you, so I
- 22:47appreciate. I wanted you here so bad for the opening day. I'm glad
- 22:51you came, absolutely, thank you. You're welcome, all right. I
- 22:56got him the pizza gavone. Frank Zabski's here. Hey, i gotta pretend.
- 23:02Oh, let me pretend my I'm a little tallion here. Hey.
- 23:03Oh, we're down. Obviously everyone knows. We're down at Nautilus and Milford
- 23:07and one of their biggest menu items is New Haven style pizza, which I'm
- 23:12sure they invited you just for you. But you are a pizza reviewer,
- 23:17Yes, sir, I am pizza review I've been doing that for about two
- 23:19years with pizza gav owns, and I recently started a New Haven pizza school
- 23:26about ten months ago. And it's been crazy, just like this place is
- 23:30right now. Yeah, No, it's crazy. Yeah, it's just getting
- 23:32busier. I got here like right before the ribbon cutting, and now it's
- 23:34like I'm trying to make my way to the bar. It's awesome, yeah,
- 23:37but that's why they put me back by the bathroom. I'm stuck back
- 23:40here. Sometimes it's probably the best. Yeah, yeah, I know,
- 23:44right. So all right, so you're here obviously to review their pizza.
- 23:48You do New Haven style pizza strict to New Haven Style strict and New Haven
- 23:52Style. I mean, I like a bunch of other different styles. Yeah,
- 23:56like Detroit in New York, but my heart is deaf clean New Haven.
- 24:00I grew up in West Haven, so I went to mikes and new
- 24:03parties most of my life, and then in my mid twenties, I discovered
- 24:07Wooster Street and it was love at first bite and it kind of went from
- 24:11there. You know. I had my own pizza truck for about four years.
- 24:14So so you and I can go and grab a pizza and no,
- 24:18it's New Haven style. But how would you describe New Haven style to someone
- 24:22that you know might be in New York thinking it's that or you know.
- 24:26So one of the trademarks in New Haven Style is obviously a thin crust,
- 24:32but basically no crust meaning no rise on the edge of the pizza. So
- 24:37that's number one. Number two is to give you an example, New York
- 24:42pizza bakes in about five minutes, so it's kind of like that. The
- 24:48cheese is just starting to melt. The edge of the pizza. The rim
- 24:52that we see, it's kind of like a yellowish brownish. Well New Haven
- 24:56takes it from that five minutes up to eight to ten minutes. Yeah,
- 25:00so super brown, charred, crust and charred for people that don't know that,
- 25:07for those little black spots or the burnt parts on the edge which people
- 25:11of Little Lover hate. Uh like a caramelized brown mozzarell top crunchy, no
- 25:19flop, fresh milled Italian tomatoes. That's really the essence of New Haven Pizza.
- 25:26Now before you try, there's here what is your number one spot?
- 25:34So that's really hard to promote. So yeah yeah, um so so here's
- 25:40my answer, and I'm gonna give you a political answer, because what I
- 25:45know, here's the deal. Sally's Peppies a modern if you're not from around
- 25:49here, it's called the Trinity, and they're always gonna be top of the
- 25:56top of the food chain. Um for a lot of reasons, mostly because
- 26:00they've been around pretty much since they started, you know, one hundred years
- 26:04ago. But what I found, which is what really prompted me to start
- 26:08doing the pizza reviews, is um ten fifteen years ago, Salle's Peppi's Modern
- 26:15major League. Yeah, a lot of the other places we're not in the
- 26:19same ballpark, but over the last ten or fifteen years that scale has changed,
- 26:26so everyone again, everyone knows Salle' Peppi's Modern, Mike's and west Avens
- 26:32who parties in west Haven have just the same lineage Ben the three guys Ernie's,
- 26:40I'm Waley Avenue, Fantastic Fuco and Cheshire Coal Fired oven Sasso's Coal Fire
- 26:48and Torrington One Coal Fired Oven. I could go The list can go on
- 26:52and on. One of my favorite places is Um Tipsy Tomato on thirty four.
- 26:57I have yet to eat there. All as I hear is fantastic things.
- 27:02They have a stuff shrimp pie. Yeah, that's to die for,
- 27:04stuffed shrimp, stuff shrimp. If you like shrimp and you like stuff shrimp,
- 27:08this place is phenomenal. Yeah. I just did a review at Retro
- 27:12which is in Derby. Another place. Ye, fantastic. It's kind of
- 27:18like a bar pie. New Haven Flavors. They have a phenomenal uh bit
- 27:26stuff big stuff shrimp pizza frants never even heard of that. That sounds fantastic.
- 27:33It's I hesitate to say it's better than sex. It's to me,
- 27:40it's that good. I'm not gonna be political. I said this yesterday.
- 27:42Actually, I actually did a podcast yesterday. We were talking about New Haven
- 27:45pizza because you know, Colin Kaplan wrote the Pizza book. So he was
- 27:49on my show like a year ago talking about the Pedal Cruise and he came
- 27:55when showed me the book and I read most of it and it's it's pretty
- 27:57cool the history of how everything came around. So the guy had on asked
- 28:02me, you know what's your favorite, and it's probably a recency bias,
- 28:07but I said Modern because I was at Modern maybe right before Christmas. I
- 28:12don't go to New Haven too often. Yeah, right before Christmas. And
- 28:18it was the best pizza I think I've ever had in my life. But
- 28:22I've been everywhere. And I also said I've been to Modern before where I
- 28:27wasn't thoroughly excited like I thought they maybe even overcooked it, which is kind
- 28:32of hard to do, but they did that. But I said it was
- 28:36just I was just blown away. I'm like, it was just a sausage
- 28:37pep pie, fucking perfect. I mean, I didn't want to take any
- 28:41home. I wanted to eat it all that, you know, and then
- 28:45we started talking about how, like, you know, Sally's should be number
- 28:48one. I think Peppi's. I mean, you can't even It's like it's
- 28:53like one A and one A people, you know. You know, yeah,
- 29:00like Peppi's at the casino. It's to the point where I won't even
- 29:03go there anymore. I get the corporate side of it. You want to
- 29:06expand. It's capitalism, it's America. But there's just no way you can
- 29:08transfer what you do in New Haven to a casino or some of the other
- 29:14places they might be at, but especially a casino, like kind of done
- 29:18with it. But you're right, it's the Holy Trinity. It's those three.
- 29:22Uh. Sometimes I think people are deterred from Worcester Street because it's kind
- 29:26of hard to you know, park and get there. It's not easy,
- 29:29you know. And today's society people want to, like, uber eat a
- 29:32fucking pizza, you know, you know what I mean. So it's like,
- 29:36so I've eaten here, I was here the day they open. I
- 29:40don't know what pizzas you're trying today, but I'm just gonna say, you
- 29:42gotta try the Philly cheese steak. One they have like this spicy sauce they
- 29:47dribble over the top. I think it's called Naughty Sauce. It was fantastic.
- 29:52It's I can't wait to watch the review because I think it's traditional New
- 29:56New Haven style, nice, thin, crispy every thinking that you just described.
- 30:00Yeh, So I'm looking forward to your review. Yeah, man,
- 30:04I appreciate it. I actually was here prior to them, well right after
- 30:08they opened, and I had the potato bacon pizza and one of my favorite
- 30:15pizzas is a traditional New Haven And what a lot of people don't know is
- 30:18that, Uh, anywhere in the world, you go and ask for a
- 30:23plain pizza, you're gonna get cheese on it, right, But New Haven
- 30:27it's no cheese, right, no cheese. It's the dough, the sauce,
- 30:30peccorino olive oil and that's it and sauce. Yeah. So that's that's
- 30:37my favorite pizza with no cheese, no cheese. Yeah. So when you
- 30:41do your reviews, are you like throwing a compared in Portnore. But obviously
- 30:45he kind of started this whole trend. He only eats cheese pizza. I've
- 30:52seen some guys that only do pepperoni pizza. Are you kind of just give
- 30:56me your your signature pie or you like, just give me what you like
- 31:00to eat. What is So I'll answer that question, and I'll explain to
- 31:07you the premise of what I do is so that I could show people the
- 31:11hidden gems of Connecticut pizza rum. When I first started out, I started
- 31:17doing the scores, you know, eight point two, but I actually did
- 31:22Greade School scores, so I did like eighty six. I mean, I
- 31:25went instead of taking You know, I have a ton of respect for Dave
- 31:30Portnoy as a businessperson. I don't particularly care for him on his pizza reviews,
- 31:34but I realized he's got a following and Dave Portney. I know it's
- 31:38a David and Goliath thing. But I want when I do something, I
- 31:41like to do something different. So my reviews are I review the pizza,
- 31:47the place, and the personality. So one of the big things is that
- 31:51you can't properly review a pizza in a box, right, It's a different
- 31:55pizza, So you gotta review it when it comes out of the oven,
- 31:59which is what I deal um. But to answer your question, sorry,
- 32:04I feel a bust a little bit. Um. I generally will always at
- 32:09least get a new Haven plane or a Moots, so either a cheese or
- 32:15a Haven plane. And then do you find a lot of people don't do
- 32:19the New Haven plane though a lot of specifically ask for it. If you
- 32:22didn't grow up with it, you don't even know what exists exactly. That's
- 32:24what I mean, yeah, correct, yeah, yeah, but I tell
- 32:29people give it a shot because it's there's I call it the no hide pie.
- 32:35You can't hide anything, right, it's the dough and the sauce and
- 32:38I like garlic on it. Yeah, but you can't hide with the cheese
- 32:42or topping. You know, you can have a shitty pizza and have really
- 32:45good toppings and it brings the pizza up. But a plane pie, you
- 32:50got what you got. There's nowhere to hide on that, right, So
- 32:52I always get that. And then what I do again, because what I
- 32:55the reviews I do or for the business owners to drive business of course to
- 33:00their pizzas, right, so I never say anything bad. Um. I
- 33:04traditionally asked them the pizzas they want to mean a review or something that they
- 33:08want to promote, and that's kind of how I do it. So I
- 33:12usually do three to four pizzas, Okay, try to try all four.
- 33:15Yeah, Like I feel like, uh, like you were saying you like
- 33:22to do the New Haven style. Like I look at pizza three three categories,
- 33:29and in a pizza it's you know, it's dough, cheese, and
- 33:30sauce. Right now, we do pizza Stonebridge Restaurant. It's very limited.
- 33:35It's the late nights. We've had good pizza guys in We've had whatever in.
- 33:39Uh. Back in the day we first started, we had this old
- 33:42Italian dude that lived upstairs and he'd make all the dough and he'd make all
- 33:45the sauce, and it was, oh my god, it was so good.
- 33:47Yeah, and now it's you know, I don't even know what we
- 33:50use now, it's still you know what it is, what it cares.
- 33:52It's the drunk college kids that are ordering sizes the pizza. But I've me
- 33:59personally, I feel this is my rankings. Sauce one do too, cheese
- 34:06three. It's kind of how I rank it. Yeah, because I've tasted
- 34:09bad cheese or like low quality cheese, let's say so, like really good,
- 34:14high quality one hundred percent moots white, whole milk, whatever, whole
- 34:17milk, a little moisture, yeah right right, and the sauce can make
- 34:23or break the pie to me? Do you can get around? You know
- 34:27that the crust might suck, but you're eating the pizza, you're enjoying it.
- 34:30Or the crusted mean New Haven style and it's like you don't even realize
- 34:32it's there. Um, But you know when you have a bad one too,
- 34:36like you know you have you know you have a bad one. So
- 34:38I'm like, all right, let's uh. I think the sauce makes it
- 34:43breaks it from me. So I've never had a New Haven original style,
- 34:45though I gotta try that it's called new Um. But I'm also a sauce
- 34:51guy. Yeah, so um, what I tell people in my classes and
- 34:58most of them get it. Everyone's looking for like this secret formula or the
- 35:01secret recipe or whatever the case might be. And really what it comes down
- 35:07to, honestly, is it's it's water flower, salt, yeast, bread
- 35:12flowers the key. But where we're going with this is that, um,
- 35:15yeah, I'm a souce guy. I like, I don't like a lot
- 35:20of cheese, if anything. When I go to a pizzeria, I tell
- 35:22them, light on the cheese. Um. The cool thing that people don't
- 35:25realize is that h on Wooster Street, Sally's and Peppies. Peppies actually uses
- 35:32Deli sliced mozzarell. Really, they don't use shredded those slabs around the pie
- 35:38correct yea. And so the good thing about the slabs is that you can
- 35:43make them really thin, really thick. So if you like a lot of
- 35:45cheese, you put through rosa the um, you know, the slices on
- 35:50um. But yeah, I mean, you know, I always say I've
- 35:52met very few pizzas. I didn't like this water. I've and hearing about
- 36:00water since the day I moved into the New Haven area because I've traveled the
- 36:05world. I've been to you know, Florida, and they always say new
- 36:07Haven style, especially with the populator new Haven peeking up now. They said,
- 36:12oh, you can't get the same water down here. You can't get
- 36:14the same water. Cow. I was at a New Haven pizza place to
- 36:15do what's from New Haven? We're out in like La Joya, just north
- 36:19of San Diego. He had Fox and Park SODA's there. Uh, that's
- 36:22the real deal. Yeah, And he knew his ship and I'm like,
- 36:24do you get your water imported? He's like yes, And I'm like,
- 36:30it's a thing, right, sos with it? Yeah, go ahead.
- 36:35Okay. So the whole water thing is absolutely bullshit. Okay, I'll tell
- 36:38you why. Okay. So without giving you my whole life story, I
- 36:45can't. Most of my career has been in it computer stuff. Yeah.
- 36:49So it doesn't mean I'm a rocket scientist, but I'm kind of a detail
- 36:52yeah, kind of guy. So I was hearing about the water, the
- 36:58water, the water, and about three years ago I made it my mission
- 37:00to research this topic to the point that I actually contacted, went down and
- 37:07emailed several times. I don't know what they call them. I'll call them
- 37:12engineers at Regional Water Authority. Okay, so they run the whole water system
- 37:17pretty much for New Haven County and higher. So bottom line is, without
- 37:22getting too technical or put too much chemistry into this, there's hard water and
- 37:28soft water. Hard water has magnesium and calcium in it, soft water doesn't.
- 37:34We are blessed to live in Connecticut and have a lot of not only
- 37:37natural spring water, but also reservoirs that are guarded. So there's not a
- 37:44lot of contamination. But the bottom line is I actually have a map of
- 37:51the United States that shows these swaths of hard and soft water throughout the whole
- 37:57country. But the bottom line is all you need to do wherever you go.
- 38:02If you want to make newhaving pizza and you know you have hard water
- 38:06or shitty water, is you use bottled water? I mean spring water,
- 38:09right, That's it. Um. So A lot of people don't know this,
- 38:15and this will be the last thing I tell you, is that at
- 38:17any time in any town, in any block, underneath the roads, there's
- 38:23this elaborate piping system and it has valves on it, so it's called an
- 38:30on demand system. So the point being is the water that you get on
- 38:34Wooster Street could come from Lake Saltonstall, Lake Whitney, and there's one on
- 38:40multiple and it could come from all three. So the bottom line is,
- 38:49do we have good water in Connecticut with pizza? Yes? Is there anything
- 38:52special specifically about the water on Wooster Street. No. You could go to
- 38:58Maine and you the same kind of pizza or any other place that has known
- 39:02good water soft water, and you're fine, awesome, all right, Frank,
- 39:08I'm gonna let you go. You're gonna go through your pizza review,
- 39:10but tell my audience. So it's Pizzaga Vones, Yeah, Pizzaga Voness like
- 39:15YouTube channel yeah. Um. And then new Haven Pizza School is where you
- 39:20find me if you ever want to learn how to make names, Instagram or
- 39:23any of that. Yeah, I'm on all that, and it's real simple.
- 39:25Everything's Newhaven Pizza School. My Instagram's Nehaven Pizza School. Facebook's Nehaven Pizza
- 39:30School, and I have my uh Facebook group at sixteen thousand people. All
- 39:36we do is talk about Nehaven style pizza, all about Nehaven style beats.
- 39:39I'm good, hungry, Hey, Frank, nice meeting you, Thank you.
- 39:43I'll bring in the studio one time, more in depth in this.
- 39:45Thanks so much for coming on. Enjoy your pizza, enjoy the day,
- 39:50take care of all. Right there you have. We're gonna wrap it up
- 39:53here at Nautilus and Milford right down to Devon. This thing is going on
- 39:57all day, all night, wine taste things. They got a DJ right
- 40:00now, They're gonna have a little two piece band later. They got some
- 40:05raffle prizes. They got Walnut Beach Creamery outside doing free samples of her.
- 40:10I'm sure she has the Twicks ice cream, which was all our favorites,
- 40:13and I'm gonna go up to the bar and grab a viva they got vivas
- 40:16here, and maybe a shot of something called Jonathan Jamison whiskey before I wrap
- 40:22it up. So thanks everyone listening all week. I know it's a busy
- 40:25week. I don't even have a guest lined up for next week. I've
- 40:29been so crazy lately, but I'm sure i'll have something good for you on
- 40:32Tuesday or Wednesday next week. So everyone enjoy your weekend and we'll talk to
- 40:37you soon.