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- 3:39Speaker 8: Good afternoon, grand rising, hope you guys are doing amazing today.
- 3:42Speaker 8: It's exactly that minutes past the top of the hour.
- 3:44Speaker 8: And welcome to yet another beautiful discussion right here on
- 3:47Speaker 8: the middle of the twenty first century. This is Black
- 3:49Speaker 8: or Fire Network and my name is Joby to do
- 3:52Speaker 8: so here for the first time Carribuni, Hope your week
- 3:54Speaker 8: has been great, fantastic, man has been nice and looking
- 3:58Speaker 8: forward to the weekend literally super super much so so much.
- 4:02Speaker 8: But yes, caribunis sana once again, and of course welcome
- 4:05Speaker 8: to you're gonna be having a simple discussion just looking
- 4:08Speaker 8: at the history of Tanzania and Kenya. This is before independency,
- 4:13Speaker 8: and you're gonna talk about a little bit of the projects,
- 4:15Speaker 8: the the the our African leaders are found of eating, uh,
- 4:19Speaker 8: the money for infrastructure, money that is meant for certain
- 4:23Speaker 8: projects like bridges. Looking at this kind of situation like
- 4:27Speaker 8: this on the screen, there is actually a bridge that
- 4:30Speaker 8: has costed two million dollars. So you're gonna be discussing
- 4:34Speaker 8: about this.
- 4:35Speaker 9: And how this.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Gonna be a night I'm gonna talk to you now.
- 4:40Speaker 8: No, I don't want you on my show though.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And as what you want today, I'm not gonna have
- 4:49Speaker 1: the night.
- 4:50Speaker 3: So y.
- 4:53Speaker 1: So why are you looking? Why are you looking? Super
- 4:55Speaker 1: to the weekend joby hm hmm.
- 5:00Speaker 8: As you get into the conversations the scot again, as
- 5:06Speaker 8: you get into the conversation family, you're gonna be discussing
- 5:09Speaker 8: about Kenya and Tanzania before independence, looking at how these
- 5:13Speaker 8: countries actually the relationships they have, what happened, and where
- 5:18Speaker 8: we are today politically and also looking.
- 5:21Speaker 5: At you guys are now are the people expect the love?
- 5:27Speaker 5: I know that you don't get all your money.
- 5:30Speaker 8: Believe I understand where this is coming from. I understand
- 5:38Speaker 8: where this is coming from and why on live. I
- 5:41Speaker 8: understand where.
- 5:42Speaker 5: This is.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Talking about. To get sud get the stain from you.
- 5:51Speaker 8: That that's not disrespect though that's not.
- 5:59Speaker 1: I has to speake them the stage.
- 6:01Speaker 8: The stain means.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Staining. I'ld like it. Uh okay annoyed? Yo? Like you
- 6:17Speaker 1: annoyed by my presence?
- 6:20Speaker 8: Oh no not really, I'm okay.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 6:29Speaker 10: But the family of Kenyan activists Boniface Mongi, who has
- 6:31Speaker 10: been missing for three days, alongside the Ganda's to a hitter,
- 6:35Speaker 10: is calling on the near president Samuel Sulu, who to
- 6:38Speaker 10: account for their whereabouts, dead or alive.
- 6:40Speaker 5: Now.
- 6:41Speaker 9: Kenyan activists Boniface Mongy is currently airborne to Nairobi after
- 6:45Speaker 9: he was picked up at the Kenya Tanzania border in
- 6:48Speaker 9: Qualley County. Mangi, who had been detained by the Tanzanian
- 6:52Speaker 9: authorities for the last five days, now looked visibly.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Free, the reports saying he may have been tortured and injured.
- 7:00Speaker 11: Twenty five, Relations between Kenya and Tanzania once again reached
- 7:04Speaker 11: a boiling point the arrest and alleged mistreatment of Nyan
- 7:08Speaker 11: and Georgandan activists in tanzanias but heated diplomatic exchanges and
- 7:13Speaker 11: public outrage, reviving memories of past tensions between these East
- 7:17Speaker 11: African neighbors.
- 7:18Speaker 12: The Tanzanian government has decided to nullify its approval for
- 7:22Speaker 12: the Kenya Airways flights between Naiubi, Dari, Islam Kilmanjaro Zanziba, effective.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Of fast August.
- 7:30Speaker 13: Tanzanian officials impounded and satellite some six thy four hundred
- 7:35Speaker 13: chicks and then among a post in Longino District of Arusha.
- 7:39Speaker 13: The Government of Tanzania rounded up a total of one thy,
- 7:42Speaker 13: three hundred and twenty five animals and auctioned them. End
- 7:45Speaker 13: of last month, Sabhadans were also arrested.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Of Kenyan activists.
- 7:50Speaker 10: Boniface Unangi, who has been missing for three days alongside
- 7:53Speaker 10: Uganda's Adasa tour Hire is calling on Tanzania President Sanya
- 7:57Speaker 10: Sulu who to account for their whereabouts, dead.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Or life since Hea to Nashida and Luza to Tanzania,
- 8:03Speaker 2: to Nataka, to Shikian Pomoria, Nawa, Tanzania.
- 8:07Speaker 10: Our neighbors from Tanzania, if we have wronged you in
- 8:11Speaker 10: any way, forgive us.
- 8:13Speaker 11: This recent friction isn't isolated. Nia and Tanzania share a
- 8:18Speaker 11: complex history intertwined through colonial legacies, ideological differences, and intense
- 8:24Speaker 11: economic rivalry. Our story goes back to the first century.
- 8:36Speaker 11: You see, long before colonial borders, the Sahili coasts thrived.
- 8:40Speaker 3: In maritime commerce.
- 8:42Speaker 11: From the first century, a East African port cities like
- 8:45Speaker 11: Kiloa in Tanzania and Bombasa and Malindi in Kenya flourish
- 8:49Speaker 11: as north in the Indian Christian trade network, linking East
- 8:53Speaker 11: Africa to Pasia, Arabia, India and beyond. These city states,
- 8:57Speaker 11: bonded by Swahili language and Islam, engaged in friction and competition,
- 9:03Speaker 11: for shadowing later rivalries between inland polities. By the sixteenth century,
- 9:09Speaker 11: police invasions briefly disrupted by lands before Omani Arabs reasserted control.
- 9:16Speaker 11: Yet early external influences so religious, commercial, and linguistic shaped
- 9:21Speaker 11: political identities along the coast, showing seeds of regional challenges
- 9:27Speaker 11: that would every once in a whild show in the
- 9:29Speaker 11: modern Kenya Tanzania relationship. In the late nineteenth century, Germany
- 9:35Speaker 11: established its protectorate over Tanganika, which is now part of
- 9:39Speaker 11: modern day Tanzania. Historical records show that the German colonial
- 9:45Speaker 11: administration implemented a system of direct rule. This approach was
- 9:49Speaker 11: characterized by a centralized and authoritarian administrative structure. The primary
- 9:55Speaker 11: goal of the German colonial power was the economic exploitation
- 9:59Speaker 11: of the region.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Members. So yes, that's that joby's doing this. It doesn't
- 10:09Speaker 1: stand member.
- 10:09Speaker 5: Germany had the bimbiaybody was making these state mortars.
- 10:15Speaker 1: The Germany had the Nimbia Tanzania, but they didn't get
- 10:23Speaker 1: a big spice.
- 10:25Speaker 5: So this is the reason why they went to World
- 10:26Speaker 5: War One, because Germany only got Tanzania and the media,
- 10:31Speaker 5: I think like one more he was camera room.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Then they got time room, and then they got came
- 10:37Speaker 1: on Tanzania and the Mimbi. That's all they got. And
- 10:45Speaker 1: so the Germans were pissed up that the British and the.
- 10:48Speaker 5: Prince got the majority of Africa and then and they
- 10:51Speaker 5: were all getting rich.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And the Germans like, what, we need more of these
- 10:55Speaker 1: niggas to work and be slaves. How you other white
- 10:59Speaker 1: people do that's our way?
- 11:01Speaker 5: More started journey was upset they didn't give niggas ways.
- 11:06Speaker 1: App My.
- 11:09Speaker 11: We achieved through the establishment of large scale plantations for
- 11:13Speaker 11: cash groups such as coffee, cotton, and size exactly.
- 11:18Speaker 5: Large plantation magan his Niggas slays make white people rate exactly.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Often relied on the use of forced labor and a
- 11:28Speaker 3: harsh conditions.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Worshus Fiving conscribing.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Met with the brutal suppression.
- 11:35Speaker 11: The most notable example of this was the Major Rebellion
- 11:38Speaker 11: of nineteen o five to nineteen or seven. German forces
- 11:42Speaker 11: crushed the uprising with overwhelming force, leading to the depths
- 11:46Speaker 11: of an estimated two hundred thousand to three hundred thousand Africans.
- 11:50Speaker 11: These casualties resulted not only from direct conflict, but also
- 11:54Speaker 11: from us coached at the policy that led to widespread
- 11:58Speaker 11: from Concurrently, the British established the East African Protectorates in
- 12:04Speaker 11: eighteen ninety five, which would later become the Colony of Kenya.
- 12:08Speaker 11: A cornerstone of British policy in this region was the
- 12:12Speaker 11: construction of the Uganda Railway, which began in eighteen ninety six.
- 12:17Speaker 11: The railway was a strategic endeavor designed to secure a
- 12:21Speaker 11: trade route from the port of Mombasa to the landlocked
- 12:24Speaker 11: Uganda Protectorate. Beyond its strategic importance, the railway played a
- 12:29Speaker 11: crucial role in the economic development of the Kenya protectorate.
- 12:34Speaker 11: It facilitated the movement of goods and people, which was
- 12:37Speaker 11: instrumental in the growth of agriculture in the fertile highlands
- 12:42Speaker 11: of Kenya. European settlers were encouraged to establish farms, and
- 12:48Speaker 11: the railway provided the means to transport the agricultural products
- 12:52Speaker 11: to the coast for export. This in turn sparred the
- 12:56Speaker 11: growth of gomas and the establishment of urban centers alone
- 13:00Speaker 11: the railway line. Despite the different approaches to governance, both
- 13:06Speaker 11: colonial powers engineered aratical economic transformation the traditional subsistence based
- 13:12Speaker 11: economies who were systematically re oriented toward the large scin
- 13:17Speaker 11: production of export groups like coffee, tea, sizle and cotton
- 13:22Speaker 11: destined for European markets.
- 13:24Speaker 5: They said they turned in niggas, Cania and the slaves,
- 13:28Speaker 5: and we said, he's all nice about the subsistent army
- 13:32Speaker 5: turning Negga's opinion and the slaves first training niggazine slaves,
- 13:37Speaker 5: and the German turning niggas and the slaves and transli.
- 13:42Speaker 1: It was all black people said, I know they scam
- 13:46Speaker 1: with because all after they went back in the train,
- 13:51Speaker 1: slaves jump.
- 13:54Speaker 11: Where a dominant export sector existed alongside and often at
- 13:59Speaker 11: the expert of the traditional agricultural practices of the local populations.
- 14:05Speaker 11: This economic overhaul was reinforced by the strategic development of infrastructure.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Railways and roads were not built to force.
- 14:12Speaker 11: The balanced internal development, but to allod specifically to connect
- 14:17Speaker 11: resource rage areas in the interior with stored for expert.
- 14:22Speaker 5: Exactly something like base again their world to the built
- 14:26Speaker 5: of Africa, because they.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Want to develop these niggas a built world to.
- 14:31Speaker 5: Get the ship that they were stealing, the exploitation, all
- 14:35Speaker 5: the goods and the.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Farms and the you know, take that out that what
- 14:39Speaker 1: you got in Africa got in the road.
- 14:42Speaker 5: All that ship was taken out of Africa and ship
- 14:45Speaker 5: to Europe to make the white man wealthy.
- 14:48Speaker 1: So what avenue AMaGA like? Where the fucking the roads there?
- 14:52Speaker 1: How the roads? That's what I put.
- 14:56Speaker 5: Sure I get the girl, I kick where the roads
- 14:59Speaker 5: at and the road together almost fly down? Is history,
- 15:03Speaker 5: yere crowd, my first day, there's the.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Wor role to get the ship out in the railway,
- 15:11Speaker 1: to get the shal is this still is the cycle
- 15:18Speaker 1: or making evil right?
- 15:22Speaker 11: Economic signatory Robby is strategically positioned on the Uganda railway
- 15:27Speaker 11: quickly blossomed into the primary administrative and commercial hub of
- 15:30Speaker 11: British East Africa. In contrast, the Rusalem served as the
- 15:36Speaker 11: capital and the main port of German Tanganika, while historic
- 15:41Speaker 11: Zanzibarb once a dominant trading empire and Omani influence, so
- 15:46Speaker 11: its regional importance shift as mainland ports became the focal
- 15:51Speaker 11: points of the new extracted economies.
- 15:55Speaker 5: A job quick, making more, making money I Kenya. Then
- 16:01Speaker 5: number one college was Nigeria. But they are Kenyan more
- 16:05Speaker 5: because Kenya's climate, because the genious climates like South Africa.
- 16:12Speaker 5: It's more temporary. Niger is more like Tanzania.
- 16:15Speaker 1: It was hot that year, was hot.
- 16:18Speaker 5: Human that was a number one colony. They made mostly money,
- 16:22Speaker 5: but a lot of them can settle in that year
- 16:25Speaker 5: because of the heat. Kenya was perfect because of its
- 16:29Speaker 5: small weather.
- 16:33Speaker 11: In essence, the colonial projects in East Africa, whether German
- 16:38Speaker 11: or British, were designed to create extractive states through directoral,
- 16:44Speaker 11: strategic infrastructure, and the forced reorientation of local economies.
- 16:49Speaker 3: They established a new order that prioritized.
- 16:52Speaker 11: The needs of the empire, leaking the groundwork for the
- 16:56Speaker 11: economic and political structures of modern the Kenya.
- 17:00Speaker 5: Your brother and he's like a job. I want to stay,
- 17:02Speaker 5: he said, the empire. I want to know who can
- 17:05Speaker 5: choose the empire. It's not the British, It's the motherfucking.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Cat with the hat.
- 17:12Speaker 5: And no idea would transfer the empire from Britain and
- 17:16Speaker 5: plants to America when they're ships down in collapse because
- 17:20Speaker 5: of the same people that can show the American Empire
- 17:24Speaker 5: and then the same motherfuckers that can show Chio.
- 17:29Speaker 11: Now before you proceed, police take a moment to it'strate
- 17:32Speaker 11: now lem bringing them the promise of independence. The relationship
- 17:36Speaker 11: between the soon to be nations of Kenya and Tanzania
- 17:40Speaker 11: was already shipped.
- 17:41Speaker 3: By deep seated inequality.
- 17:44Speaker 11: The seeds of their future discord had been sown over
- 17:47Speaker 11: decades of British colony policy, which deliberately established my Robie
- 17:53Speaker 11: as the undisputed economic art of East Africa. This arrangement
- 17:59Speaker 11: created a start balance. Kenya functioned as the regions industrial hub,
- 18:04Speaker 11: while Tanganika remained its agricultural interland. This economic reality became
- 18:10Speaker 11: a source of political friction that festered long before independence,
- 18:15Speaker 11: as Tanganik again independence in nineteen sixty one, followed by
- 18:18Speaker 11: Kenya in nineteen sixty three, its new nationalist leaders, who
- 18:23Speaker 11: were acutely aware that they were shackled to an economic
- 18:26Speaker 11: system designed to benefit their neighbor By in nineteen sixty four,
- 18:31Speaker 11: the strains had become so severe that the East African
- 18:34Speaker 11: Common Market was on the verge of collapse. In a
- 18:37Speaker 11: desperate attempt to rectify the trade imbalances, the three nations
- 18:41Speaker 11: negotiated the Kampala Agreement. Its central objective was explicit to
- 18:46Speaker 11: deliberately shift industrial development away from Kenya and toward its
- 18:51Speaker 11: less developed partners, Tanzania and Uganda. The agreement provided specific
- 18:56Speaker 11: tools for this economic reengineering. It called for major companies
- 19:01Speaker 11: operating across the region, like Buttershore, East African breweries and
- 19:06Speaker 11: tobacco farms, to increased production within.
- 19:09Speaker 5: The reason was the was the reason why I was
- 19:11Speaker 5: gonna be that way, because when Germans lost more than one,
- 19:15Speaker 5: the British got Tanzania too, So you don't need a
- 19:19Speaker 5: bunch of economic hubs and you got one empires, one
- 19:22Speaker 5: big Landic.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It was no Tanzania.
- 19:24Speaker 5: There was no change, it was no you've dined. That
- 19:27Speaker 5: was just all one British infront. All the land was
- 19:30Speaker 5: controlled by the British, so you gonna need one centure
- 19:34Speaker 5: capital that would be trobe. Of course, I ain't need
- 19:39Speaker 5: a bunch of capital.
- 19:40Speaker 1: I controlled all in all the area.
- 19:42Speaker 5: So my main administrative huhu was not rob because that's why,
- 19:48Speaker 5: that's why Minister administration through me out there for that
- 19:54Speaker 5: for that land reason.
- 19:55Speaker 1: You goned in Tanzania. So they're not doing black people.
- 20:01Speaker 5: Black people who said that ship the whiteness said that,
- 20:05Speaker 5: and then they were black people.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Black people said none of that ship.
- 20:10Speaker 3: In local demand.
- 20:12Speaker 11: It also located certain making future industries such as fire
- 20:16Speaker 11: manufacturing and radio assembly exclusively to Tanzania, granting them tariff
- 20:21Speaker 11: free access to the entire hist African market. Tanzania, already
- 20:27Speaker 11: leaning towards a state planned economy, seized upon these provisions
- 20:31Speaker 11: with vigor. It went further, using clauses that allowed for
- 20:35Speaker 11: quarters on Kenyan goods to protect its own infant industries.
- 20:41Speaker 11: It's quote unimportant. Kenya beer, for example, was so restrictive
- 20:45Speaker 11: that Tanzania had to import beer from outside East Africa
- 20:49Speaker 11: just to meet demand. Crucially, however, Tanzania's actions soon went
- 20:54Speaker 11: far beyond what was envisaged in the Kambala Agreement. Feeling
- 20:58Speaker 11: empowered by its recent union with the san Ziba and
- 21:01Speaker 11: the growing dissolution with the prospect of a true East
- 21:04Speaker 11: African federation. The government used red restrictions as a powerful
- 21:09Speaker 11: beginning chip. By creating barriers, it aims to force Kenyan
- 21:14Speaker 11: based farms to leave the barrier and establish factories inside.
- 21:19Speaker 5: Now the probably have remember Joseph Nanetta with more Pan Africans.
- 21:24Speaker 5: He wanted Africans to actually come up from poverty. German
- 21:28Speaker 5: Kenyada was a no good, dirty as puppet. It was
- 21:32Speaker 5: still the money for the bridge and keeping Africans in poverty.
- 21:35Speaker 5: It wouldn't say nothing. So you got also two economic systems.
- 21:40Speaker 5: From one guy trying to pull Africans out of poverty
- 21:43Speaker 5: and educate them, he got one savage Nigga Kenya who's
- 21:48Speaker 5: a no good, dirty back glass puppet openly for the Europeans,
- 21:52Speaker 5: taking sure europe stays wealthy and Kenyas don't get their
- 21:55Speaker 5: land back and stay in parks. So that's another you
- 21:59Speaker 5: got that can ginger change in Tanzania from its.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Exception, and he doesn't.
- 22:06Speaker 5: And you know I'm saying Tanzania also helped China get
- 22:11Speaker 5: its independent That's another thing they'll never mention.
- 22:15Speaker 11: That job in investment and jobs with them. But the
- 22:20Speaker 11: ambitionous plan was doomed to fail. The Compiler Agreement was
- 22:24Speaker 11: never truly implemented. Kenya, the nation that would have borne
- 22:28Speaker 11: the costs of this industrial ship, only ever agreed to
- 22:33Speaker 11: get in principle and never.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Formally ratified it.
- 22:38Speaker 11: The final blow came in nineteen sixty five when Tanzania
- 22:41Speaker 11: left the established separate national occurrencies, a move that.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Remember I understand this, a white man is behind change
- 22:52Speaker 5: right now. Chose the nurse and let's let's let's make
- 22:55Speaker 5: our own cause let's been away from the white man.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Let's become independent, has become apportin. Yeah, the Kenya's are.
- 23:01Speaker 5: Completely characterist in the man you got the time, are
- 23:04Speaker 5: completely catching completely They don't know how they played Joseph
- 23:09Speaker 5: nnera Sneakerpenny becomes they wanted to kill. They can't try
- 23:14Speaker 5: to kill his ass. Kill his ass out of there
- 23:16Speaker 5: because he was upsetting the Apple card. But Kenya was
- 23:20Speaker 5: completely captured. So no, i'men not do our own courty.
- 23:24Speaker 5: We're gonna do the shieldings that the white man gave us,
- 23:26Speaker 5: even when I don't know the cursey catch your mind, nigga, the.
- 23:31Speaker 11: East African command market needs an insisting form. By the
- 23:35Speaker 11: late nineteen sixties, Kenya and Tanzania they got a vastly
- 23:38Speaker 11: different courses, moving from partners in independence to profound ideological rivals.
- 23:45Speaker 11: Kenya's government under President John Okinatta impressed a form of
- 23:49Speaker 11: state led capitalism, choosing to build upon the institutions inherited
- 23:54Speaker 11: from the colonial era.
- 23:57Speaker 1: He no, they didn't inherit him. The white man said,
- 24:01Speaker 1: but you tumbles a morod the white man can chart them.
- 24:04Speaker 1: So this is what you're gonna do. Period. He's like, yes,
- 24:08Speaker 1: white daddy.
- 24:08Speaker 5: He give me the white woman and a live Mary.
- 24:12Speaker 5: So you got Jose Donada down and they said, no,
- 24:15Speaker 5: we gotta go back to me. In African we gotta
- 24:17Speaker 5: go back to a dominants and don't cotting it. So
- 24:21Speaker 5: you got a puppet nigga and a non puppet nigga.
- 24:24Speaker 5: That's what's going on.
- 24:25Speaker 1: This is called in to strike, ohay Joe.
- 24:28Speaker 11: This was laid out in Session Paper number ten of
- 24:31Speaker 11: nineteen sixty five Wells tettled African socialism. The document established
- 24:36Speaker 11: a pragmatic party unique to Kenya, stating the government's official position,
- 24:42Speaker 11: we reject both Western capitalism and Eastern communism and to
- 24:46Speaker 11: choose for ourselves.
- 24:48Speaker 5: So remember China, China's working that China's not socialist.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Same thing Joseph and Dontta was trying to do.
- 24:55Speaker 5: But I don't think the white man was trying to
- 24:57Speaker 5: kill his ad because remember the feet off of Africa.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Africa's the Africa is the prize.
- 25:05Speaker 5: Africa's like the prettiest woman on the that's the prettiest
- 25:08Speaker 5: girl everybody wants as Africa that the prettiest woman can't
- 25:12Speaker 5: defend herself. African's like the prettiest woman has You got
- 25:16Speaker 5: a bunch of women and a con and call these
- 25:21Speaker 5: cognis North America, South America, Asia and Africa. Right, Africa
- 25:28Speaker 5: is the prettiest woman. Everybody wants her, Everybody wants us.
- 25:32Speaker 5: Everybody's trying to get this African woman right, and the
- 25:36Speaker 5: African woman can't defend hisself.
- 25:39Speaker 1: That's what's going on. Everybody's taking from this ape. That's
- 25:48Speaker 1: what uh.
- 25:51Speaker 5: They we're trying to They kept trying to sabotize Tanzania
- 25:54Speaker 5: or would be will them because all the other puppet
- 25:57Speaker 5: state They couldn't tell your guys all that.
- 26:00Speaker 1: But he was still boy to boy, it was still eat.
- 26:03Speaker 5: Down for Blighty and he just put the perpect more
- 26:06Speaker 5: one again in Jomo. This idiot this you know, the
- 26:11Speaker 5: psychonetic picked up or just psychological diaments like two phs
- 26:16Speaker 5: does a Mandela now is getting neigal puppets. The chickta
- 26:21Speaker 5: empires go jock I meant.
- 26:25Speaker 11: The paper went further, specifically distinguishing its philosophy from European
- 26:30Speaker 11: socialist theories, arguing that the historical setting that inspired Marx
- 26:35Speaker 11: has no counterpart in independent Kenya. Instead of state ownership,
- 26:40Speaker 11: the Canel Manifesto quoted in the paper made the government
- 26:44Speaker 11: through investment stance clear we shall welcome both governmental and
- 26:48Speaker 11: private investment in Keya. The document also methodically argued against
- 26:53Speaker 11: the core socialist policy of indiscriminate nationalization, explaining that if
- 26:58Speaker 11: the nation's limited domestic it is used to buy existing land, livestock, buildings,
- 27:04Speaker 11: machinery and equipment, the nation has no more productive acids
- 27:08Speaker 11: than before, only that ownership has changed.
- 27:13Speaker 1: I want you to listen. I want I want you
- 27:15Speaker 1: to listen to this bullshit.
- 27:17Speaker 5: That's why you've got a lot of white people in
- 27:19Speaker 5: tas lat a day. But that ship they just wrote
- 27:22Speaker 5: like that's white people wrote that ship, said that Africans
- 27:25Speaker 5: are not gonna take back on land.
- 27:26Speaker 1: You ain't got to pay nobody. They stole the land,
- 27:30Speaker 1: you go back and take it like zams. Somebody let
- 27:32Speaker 1: them bother me.
- 27:33Speaker 5: You don't pay nobody the lad that white people stole.
- 27:36Speaker 5: You're gonna say, hey, get your white ass off this land.
- 27:40Speaker 5: We're gonna find out who Landing was before you bought
- 27:42Speaker 5: your white ass here, and we're gonna give him back
- 27:45Speaker 5: to the African. Ship is written by white people. You
- 27:50Speaker 5: know what, we can't afford it by the land back
- 27:53Speaker 5: that we stole from you niggas, so just leave it
- 27:55Speaker 5: him white.
- 27:56Speaker 1: He goes, hey, that's the ship. They just wrote the job.
- 27:59Speaker 1: We can see h tell crazy at that ship.
- 28:04Speaker 5: And that's why they put jomos to players in there,
- 28:07Speaker 5: because he did he wasn't gonna take the land back
- 28:09Speaker 5: if they stole. Planning to make these white people rich
- 28:13Speaker 5: for nothing up the backs of black people.
- 28:18Speaker 1: That's a that's a tree.
- 28:20Speaker 5: I'm sorry for the mama that said that they got
- 28:22Speaker 5: so betrayed by these niggas.
- 28:24Speaker 1: In Kenya, crazy torch beaten and a great.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Lady looked and so exploitation his landmark declaration.
- 28:40Speaker 1: That's all. That's all it was.
- 28:42Speaker 5: It was expectation, the same ship man and because he
- 28:45Speaker 5: didn't change, german was dummy out. We're in the economy.
- 28:48Speaker 5: The white man put him in there, said you're gonna
- 28:50Speaker 5: keep all his ship and tank. Okay you understand that, dummy. Yeah,
- 28:54Speaker 5: he'll give you a white woman in the library.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Thank you, white man. They're gonna let you steal hey,
- 29:01Speaker 1: let you and your goop be family steel. Other than that,
- 29:04Speaker 1: can you still belongs to us?
- 29:08Speaker 11: With your ma socialism as a radical alternative. The Declaration
- 29:13Speaker 11: was an equivocal in its definition of the new path,
- 29:17Speaker 11: stating that a socialist state does not have two classes
- 29:21Speaker 11: of people, a lower class consisteing of people who work
- 29:24Speaker 11: for their living, and an upper class consisting of those
- 29:27Speaker 11: who live on another people's eat. To prevent this, the
- 29:31Speaker 11: Declaration asserted that in order to ensure economic justice, the
- 29:35Speaker 11: state must have effective control of a principal means of production.
- 29:41Speaker 11: This meant nationalizing all major industries. Your Child radically redefined
- 29:48Speaker 11: the basis of development itself, rejecting the previous focus of
- 29:52Speaker 11: finance by declaring, we have made a mistake to choose
- 29:56Speaker 11: money something that we do not have to be our
- 30:00Speaker 11: major instrument of development. Instead, it stamp beyoned self reliance
- 30:05Speaker 11: based on people and agriculture. These divergent ideologists soon foiled
- 30:09Speaker 11: a bitter in the very public world of words, often
- 30:13Speaker 11: amplified by the state controlled media in both nations. Tanzanian
- 30:17Speaker 11: leaders sharply criticized the Kenya's approach as a ruthless man
- 30:22Speaker 11: hitman society.
- 30:25Speaker 1: A white man.
- 30:26Speaker 5: Became a black Gnians. You gotta blame the puppets that
- 30:30Speaker 5: they put there. So he made it that lady, you know,
- 30:33Speaker 5: German of a puppets and it's just a white society.
- 30:36Speaker 5: Keep African people in povers.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Yeah, he told the truth.
- 30:40Speaker 5: This system they cleared by Joo in there and the
- 30:44Speaker 5: planking niggas and Kenya the white man got it go
- 30:48Speaker 5: and keep every buying povers, make a cup of boot
- 30:51Speaker 5: niggas money and most of the money goes to break gord.
- 30:56Speaker 3: And officials started with equal sharpness.
- 30:59Speaker 5: And didn't Igeria and Nigeria was equal to the pal
- 31:05Speaker 5: and they're fuddy. Nigeria was just as rich as brick
- 31:08Speaker 5: because it was.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Wealthy's much more wealthy than Kenya. Cans in there.
- 31:12Speaker 5: Your guys, look can bite. Nigeria is fucking wealthy, busy today,
- 31:18Speaker 5: but it's impoverished because it's ran by mohawk and the
- 31:22Speaker 5: British given did on purpose. They sold what the tribal
- 31:26Speaker 5: division and then they just destroyed nigeas.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Nigeria's wealthy shouldn't be poor. I mean wealthy. The only
- 31:36Speaker 1: kid's got all diamonds, do all that shit. But they're
- 31:39Speaker 1: par because they got tribal problems and they're idiot.
- 31:45Speaker 5: They they're they're easily They're like the mind of children,
- 31:48Speaker 5: the easy manipulated. Nigeria's is a superpower to be a
- 31:52Speaker 5: super put this out. Nageria should be a super power
- 31:57Speaker 5: to day. But you can't do that when you got morons, cotton, pibalism,
- 32:04Speaker 5: coupy religions and the British us that against them. Because
- 32:08Speaker 5: I showed you, Jermy shows you that year was riches, riches,
- 32:11Speaker 5: all European to all of them, his riches, England, Friends,
- 32:16Speaker 5: Germany and America come by.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Now it's impoverished.
- 32:21Speaker 5: How that happened because they made sure that these niggas
- 32:26Speaker 5: were not gonna rise.
- 32:28Speaker 11: Go Joe, I think so said, where idealism that led
- 32:32Speaker 11: to economic korean and discacity for all.
- 32:36Speaker 3: This deep ideologically rooted in two.
- 32:38Speaker 11: Fundamentally competing visions for the future of an independent Africa
- 32:43Speaker 11: made regional uniquely nearly impossible. The term of integrating the
- 32:48Speaker 11: East African community's economies.
- 32:50Speaker 1: The same bag, but the same back. They put a
- 32:54Speaker 1: pup in the joebo. He didn't want, he never had.
- 32:57Speaker 1: He's a moabo. He did this, yere.
- 33:00Speaker 5: I want you to go to look at all average,
- 33:02Speaker 5: because not all advacants equal stupids.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Right now, dummy, majority of dumby.
- 33:11Speaker 5: There wasn't that dummies a bullet in the he right,
- 33:14Speaker 5: but they all they want to be a big negro.
- 33:17Speaker 1: They never had any money. The game of money. Then
- 33:19Speaker 1: I got a house, I got a car.
- 33:22Speaker 8: Driver lost. You've lost your voice. I think we've lost okay.
- 33:36Speaker 11: With two main partners moving in opposite directions, one nationalizing
- 33:40Speaker 11: industries while the other was actively caught in the very
- 33:43Speaker 11: foreign investors whose assets were being seized next to door,
- 33:48Speaker 11: the ist African community from the Great Fanfare in nineteen
- 33:52Speaker 11: sixty seven was in many ways crippled from the start.
- 33:55Speaker 11: It was built on a foundation of deep economic imbalances
- 34:00Speaker 11: that favored Kenya and was trained by the profound ideological
- 34:04Speaker 11: rivalry between Kenyan capitalism and Tanzanian socialism. While these issues
- 34:10Speaker 11: caused constant friction, the event that triggered the community's political
- 34:15Speaker 11: paralysis and.
- 34:16Speaker 8: You can say we're literally capitalism has literally gotten as
- 34:19Speaker 8: we're sinking in poverty. No more more in poverty were
- 34:24Speaker 8: the inequality.
- 34:26Speaker 11: On January twenty fifth of nineteen seventy one, when General
- 34:29Speaker 11: Damn seized power in Uganda in a military coup for
- 34:35Speaker 11: Tanzania's President Julius Nirere, a close friend and political ally
- 34:39Speaker 11: of the deposed Milton or Body a means who was
- 34:43Speaker 11: an unacceptable moral outrage. He refused to grant the new
- 34:48Speaker 11: regime diplomatic recognition and famously about never to sit at
- 34:51Speaker 11: the same table with a man he considered a murder.
- 34:55Speaker 11: This stands a dire consequences for the EC. The community's
- 35:00Speaker 11: highest executive body. The East African Authority, was composed of
- 35:04Speaker 11: the three heads of state and required their unanimous presence
- 35:07Speaker 11: to make decisions. Because Nere refused to meet with Amen,
- 35:11Speaker 11: the Authority was effectively frozen. It would not formally convene,
- 35:16Speaker 11: paralyzing the EASE at its highest level, leaving it unable
- 35:21Speaker 11: to resolve the serious economic and political crisis that were
- 35:24Speaker 11: tearing it apart. This political stalemate festered for six years,
- 35:29Speaker 11: leading to the economic decay of the community's joint corporations.
- 35:33Speaker 11: By in nineteen seventy seven, the situation reached its breaking
- 35:37Speaker 11: point over their flagship, East African Airways. The airline was
- 35:41Speaker 11: effectively bankrupt as partner states failed to remit funds to
- 35:45Speaker 11: its headquarters in Arabi. In nineteen seventy seven, Kenya took
- 35:49Speaker 11: decisive unilateral action. It granted all EAA flights, liquidated the company,
- 35:56Speaker 11: and immediately launched its own national Area Anian Airways, taking
- 36:01Speaker 11: over the key assets and the infrastructure of the defunct
- 36:05Speaker 11: joint airline. Doesn't viewed this move as the final betrayal.
- 36:09Speaker 11: In immediate retaliation, President narrowly announced the complete closure of
- 36:13Speaker 11: the five hundred mile land border with Kenya, holding all
- 36:17Speaker 11: legal trade and travel.
- 36:20Speaker 3: This sequence, the collapse of the airline and.
- 36:23Speaker 11: The shattering of the border, was the final nail in
- 36:26Speaker 11: the coffin for the East African Community, leading to its
- 36:30Speaker 11: official dissolution. This animosity erupted into a full blown regional
- 36:35Speaker 11: crisis in nineteen seventy eight, when Amine's forces invaded and
- 36:40Speaker 11: annexed tans aagera salient.
- 36:45Speaker 5: Im okay, so people know a kinkin the bars will
- 36:52Speaker 5: pay right the bars are pay hey bye. White people
- 36:56Speaker 5: in am anything. They don't now to do what the
- 37:00Speaker 5: boy is a fake? Pay about your perion. So I
- 37:04Speaker 5: am in bay hands and mail. They say that that
- 37:08Speaker 5: that Bob the bugandid king, which it was. But you
- 37:12Speaker 5: can't do that media. I mean the boys been already
- 37:16Speaker 5: set up for a year. The white man made them
- 37:19Speaker 5: so that you can do. We can't just invay the
- 37:22Speaker 5: country and say this from the Edu Kingdom.
- 37:25Speaker 1: You can't do that.
- 37:27Speaker 11: You encounter invasion in nineteen seventy nine to host the dictator.
- 37:34Speaker 11: It is all near a found no ally in Aerobica.
- 37:37Speaker 11: The Kenyan government, now under President Daniel Arab moy adopted
- 37:42Speaker 11: a hostile stands, a position rooted in Moyes's personal loathing
- 37:46Speaker 11: almost Paranoya for Milton or body. The Kenyan leadership was
- 37:50Speaker 11: strongly suspicious that nearest true gold was to reinstall Kubote,
- 37:54Speaker 11: who they believed had been instigating the Kenyan military to
- 37:57Speaker 11: revolve for years, fear allegedly eliminating in the failed nineteen
- 38:03Speaker 11: seventy one coup plot. This animosity was long standing and intense.
- 38:09Speaker 11: According to an account from Zambia's President Kenneth Governda, who
- 38:13Speaker 11: gave Obote exile, every time President Moi made his Zambian counterpart,
- 38:17Speaker 11: he would insist to be told what mister Obert was
- 38:21Speaker 11: doing in Zambia. The depth of this distrust had been
- 38:24Speaker 11: laid bare on the very day of the nineteen seventy
- 38:27Speaker 11: one coup, when Obot's lane made an emergency landing in Kenya.
- 38:32Speaker 11: The then Vice President Moi went to the airport and
- 38:36Speaker 11: ordered the pilot to leave. When the pilot asked what
- 38:39Speaker 11: to do if they ran out of fuel, Moy's alleged
- 38:43Speaker 11: response was bluned that the problem just don't come back
- 38:47Speaker 11: here with them. This personal animosity was reinforced by a
- 38:51Speaker 11: wider ideological clash, as the Kenyan leadership believed the socialist
- 38:57Speaker 11: leading mister Obote and mister Nareri did not mean well
- 39:00Speaker 11: for capitalist Kenya. With this history, the Kenyan government was
- 39:04Speaker 11: determined to prevent Obote's return. Influential figures like Kenya's powerful
- 39:08Speaker 11: Attorney General Charles Joonjo as staunch anti socialist and so
- 39:13Speaker 11: one enemy of the EEC saw Tanzania's costly war as
- 39:16Speaker 11: an opportunity. This hostility became manifest when Libya began flying
- 39:21Speaker 11: troops and war materials to support a means failing regime.
- 39:26Speaker 11: When Er pleaded with the Kenya to stop the Libyan
- 39:29Speaker 11: Polanes from refueling in Aerobi, the Keyan leadership refused and
- 39:33Speaker 11: explicitly used the request as a begaining chip to pressure
- 39:37Speaker 11: Tanzania into reopening the border. The border would remain sealed
- 39:41Speaker 11: for six years, marking the nadir of cooperation, an era
- 39:46Speaker 11: when ideological differences translated into a physical world between neighbours.
- 39:51Speaker 11: But the early nineteen eighties the political landscape began to shift,
- 39:56Speaker 11: creating an opening for approachment. The death of Joe in
- 40:02Speaker 11: nineteen seventy eight and the rise of Daniel arap Mooy
- 40:05Speaker 11: marked a critical turning point. The deep personal animosity between
- 40:10Speaker 11: the two nations that had been largely defined by the
- 40:12Speaker 11: ideological clash between and from socialists.
- 40:17Speaker 5: Exactly an acadum because and also he's not gonna tennis
- 40:21Speaker 5: parod in the beginning, because Tanzania on that Africanism and
- 40:27Speaker 5: Donald So there's a story when the answer stories always
- 40:30Speaker 5: don't ever tell them that. When Jose and Aim and
- 40:33Speaker 5: they posted because Tandy became free birth and he went
- 40:37Speaker 5: to German because they know that he knew what I
- 40:39Speaker 5: was gonna.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Make it this think of the puppet there.
- 40:41Speaker 5: They know he was the puppet they were gonna put
- 40:44Speaker 5: and he Jose there came to him in a secret meeting.
- 40:48Speaker 1: It's hey man, we know the British want you, but
- 40:51Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do.
- 40:53Speaker 5: I got controlled Tanzdy Bill marriage Kenya and Tanzdy together
- 40:58Speaker 5: and we're gonna make it with give her those bullets.
- 41:01Speaker 1: And make one super state. And Joe said, oh no,
- 41:06Speaker 1: oh no, I want to be friend. Oh no, we're
- 41:08Speaker 1: not gonna do that. That bullshit. Fuck Africa. It's about
- 41:12Speaker 1: me right. So as you got to know, Jomo was
- 41:15Speaker 1: a pump and a selfish, corrupt feeed.
- 41:18Speaker 5: It was old family doesn't but thieves Ol'bama's fucked up
- 41:23Speaker 5: old family stole this. Then Rob, can you apply too?
- 41:28Speaker 5: He don't, he said, he said Jose in a packet. Nah,
- 41:31Speaker 5: I'm not about to do that. I call that African
- 41:34Speaker 5: ship you talking, you can kick rocks. Because it was ideological.
- 41:41Speaker 5: This Siggo was worried about being rich. You know, I
- 41:44Speaker 5: want my money. I want money. I want to be
- 41:46Speaker 5: a big man. It's the big head Nigga sid John
- 41:49Speaker 5: from most African morons instead.
- 41:52Speaker 1: Of Africa or Joe.
- 41:57Speaker 11: Capitalist, but was dominated by money or ethnic sovereignty.
- 42:03Speaker 5: Exactly and also also tribalism and also tribalist and why
- 42:09Speaker 5: you see why you see his tribal bushs and their use.
- 42:13Speaker 5: We get ready to tribal ship. Jamo, keep the goal
- 42:17Speaker 5: because the British torment or you want to you want
- 42:19Speaker 5: to put tribal against trial, make people different, because I
- 42:23Speaker 5: keep your power because you have.
- 42:25Speaker 1: People playing off each other.
- 42:27Speaker 5: Oh Jomo, we can ask Nigga Nigga's ass up shoot
- 42:33Speaker 5: his ass in a Headressionetta.
- 42:37Speaker 11: Had marginalized his own political party, CANU and surprised opposition
- 42:42Speaker 11: figures like a Gingo Dinger who nequen trust is the
- 42:48Speaker 11: issue because of tribal upon taking power would have been
- 42:51Speaker 11: viewed favorably by Ner. Significantly easy personal animosities. President made
- 42:58Speaker 11: populist guests of social equity, such as introducing free milking schools,
- 43:03Speaker 11: and began to redistribute resources away from the entrenched equal
- 43:07Speaker 11: interests that have defined the era. This challenged the old
- 43:12Speaker 11: ethnically biased capitalistic.
- 43:16Speaker 5: Policy ethic. We say trouble ethnically biased. This nigga's tribal.
- 43:23Speaker 5: It's already tribal and capitalism, capitalism is about exploitation.
- 43:29Speaker 1: It's a new one. Uh of.
- 43:33Speaker 5: About pudalism, right because they started capitalism with slavery, because
- 43:38Speaker 5: just it's just pudalism of steroids. And then I see
- 43:43Speaker 5: and then the white man controls changing. They made this
- 43:46Speaker 5: nigga the hero of the punch. This traders ass, sell
- 43:50Speaker 5: out ass, fucking tribal milana gas nigga. They gave him
- 43:56Speaker 5: a white woman, even having a game a white woman
- 43:59Speaker 5: got me a while life. That was giving his niggas
- 44:01Speaker 5: a white woman. The more those there a white woman
- 44:05Speaker 5: because they had white and they hate themselves, right, job change.
- 44:12Speaker 11: This new dynamic was solidified by powershifts inside Kenya. Powerful
- 44:17Speaker 11: officials from the Kenyata era who were hostile to Tanzania,
- 44:21Speaker 11: most notably the stuntly antisocial Attorney General Chance Jojo, were
- 44:26Speaker 11: progressively removed from power by moy in the early nineteen eighties.
- 44:32Speaker 11: These changes in leadership and policy in Kenya created the
- 44:35Speaker 11: first genuine opportunity for dialog in the years. While a
- 44:38Speaker 11: new political willingness was a man in a hush, economic
- 44:41Speaker 11: reality made reconciliation not just possible but necessary.
- 44:46Speaker 3: The nineteen seventeen eight nineteen seventy nine over.
- 44:48Speaker 11: To Houstdia men while a military victory was financially devastating
- 44:53Speaker 11: to Tanzania, The war is estimated to have cost upwards
- 44:57Speaker 11: of five hundred million dollars a fairly straining it's already
- 45:01Speaker 11: struggling socialist economy and training its current exchange reserves.
- 45:06Speaker 3: On top of this, the border closure that.
- 45:08Speaker 11: Had been in effect since nineteen seventy seven was economically
- 45:12Speaker 11: damaging to both nations. Kenya lost an estimated one hundred
- 45:17Speaker 11: million dollars a year include where the loss to its
- 45:20Speaker 11: poorer partner Tanzania was twenty million memo annually.
- 45:25Speaker 3: For Tanzania, the com.
- 45:27Speaker 5: I remember remember white people focus on tanzan here because
- 45:32Speaker 5: Tanzanier rebuild the bows and need. The white people they
- 45:35Speaker 5: were effectively destroyed Tansier and polishing it so they needed
- 45:41Speaker 5: same way they were Haiti. They weren't polishing Tanzanier. To
- 45:45Speaker 5: make a statement, you make it, do what you counted
- 45:47Speaker 5: out you'll ship. You were working the calls they would be,
- 45:53Speaker 5: but are destroyed purpose God.
- 45:57Speaker 3: Job kind the weight of the world.
- 45:59Speaker 11: That and then lost trade made the continued closure and sustainable.
- 46:04Speaker 11: This severe economic distress forced both nations to turn to
- 46:08Speaker 11: the International Monetary Fund i m F and the World
- 46:11Speaker 11: Bank for support. These institutions conditioned their financial aid and
- 46:16Speaker 11: structural adjustment programs, pressuring both governments to adopt free man
- 46:22Speaker 11: principles like.
- 46:23Speaker 5: Lavata let the white man's period period ship, Well you
- 46:29Speaker 5: come privaty, let the white man on your ship?
- 46:32Speaker 1: Are you making me back? Saying what the birth.
- 46:36Speaker 3: Recuts in public spending.
- 46:39Speaker 11: The Old Bank also played a direct role in mediating
- 46:42Speaker 11: the dispute over the Old Ess assets, appointing a.
- 46:46Speaker 5: Theater always this is the most serious ship. Solways to
- 46:54Speaker 5: steal your ass. It's never about to happy after you're wealthy.
- 46:58Speaker 5: But the white man's now, I'm a conscious ship. And
- 47:01Speaker 5: did you take paper? Because you're still stupid?
- 47:04Speaker 1: Now do you wan now?
- 47:06Speaker 5: But back then nodding his askar colonial lesson the poly
- 47:10Speaker 5: ed overstand now finance the stand ship.
- 47:15Speaker 1: So the white manages wiping the fuck out there very job.
- 47:22Speaker 11: To oversee the negotiations This process culiminated in a final
- 47:27Speaker 11: agreement on the division of assets in May fourteenth, nineteen
- 47:31Speaker 11: eighty four. For Tanzania, they need to present a more
- 47:34Speaker 11: pragmatic image to international donors to secure resources was a
- 47:38Speaker 11: key motivation to normalize relations, directly leading to the reopening
- 47:42Speaker 11: of the border in November seventeen, nineteen eighty three, shortly
- 47:47Speaker 11: after the initial breakthrough in the assets negotiations. After the
- 47:53Speaker 11: border opened, economic relations between Kenny and Tanzani improved slowly and.
- 47:57Speaker 1: State as Possi border. Now what you guys listen to
- 48:01Speaker 1: at this time to Kenya is.
- 48:04Speaker 5: Paying white people for doing work that they haven't done
- 48:07Speaker 5: since nineteen sixty three. At that time, Kenya's playing pigeons
- 48:14Speaker 5: for white people who are not even in Kenya. And
- 48:17Speaker 5: probably day for this you'll paint that they just out
- 48:21Speaker 5: to stealing goals. It's mind blowing. They even only do
- 48:26Speaker 5: is to Africa, even though they had colleagues in Asia,
- 48:30Speaker 5: you know, fucking Indonesia.
- 48:32Speaker 1: But they they're all coming.
- 48:34Speaker 5: But they ain't been paying them by no white people,
- 48:37Speaker 5: no money for the last seventy years.
- 48:41Speaker 1: And I'm sure I was down and I know it's not.
- 48:43Speaker 5: Just Kidchen I'm gonna be found out. You're find the
- 48:46Speaker 5: Zambia Donna. Yeah, all these people been paying white people's
- 48:53Speaker 5: retirement fun's.
- 48:59Speaker 11: Diplomaci than on economic integrations. However, this changed a skin
- 49:04Speaker 11: itself and they weren't bullet.
- 49:06Speaker 1: Bull gome back, come back, Toby. They're gonna racs.
- 49:12Speaker 5: Reagan, well, Reagan hated black people. A look at these
- 49:17Speaker 5: niggas always smell. Never had a bootoom from bootoo, go
- 49:20Speaker 5: it the wagon Bagon when it.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Was condos out here.
- 49:25Speaker 5: Reagan couldn't stand his mother. I mean, Reagan had a miss,
- 49:34Speaker 5: hated their guts.
- 49:36Speaker 1: Hated he People say Trump is more. I think Reagan
- 49:41Speaker 1: Trump is racist, Yes, no doubt.
- 49:44Speaker 5: Reagan's was like more in your faith. Trump is racist
- 49:49Speaker 5: in your face, but it's not.
- 49:51Speaker 1: He's not.
- 49:52Speaker 5: Trump is bad, but Reagan was even worse. Reagan was
- 49:56Speaker 5: not a part of Jay with his way. He said,
- 49:59Speaker 5: these dumbass because in Africa don't even wear suits.
- 50:02Speaker 1: They stay away.
- 50:05Speaker 5: It's an African steak, he said, the steak and then
- 50:08Speaker 5: our prose shoe.
- 50:10Speaker 1: If ible to read the book club the apregend of
- 50:19Speaker 1: the steak, and I just started a lot lot of
- 50:22Speaker 1: world in.
- 50:23Speaker 8: BacT You're breaking a little bit.
- 50:39Speaker 1: It's just very bad.
- 50:40Speaker 3: Increasing pressure.
- 50:41Speaker 11: When the Breton Woods institutions, the IMF and World Bank
- 50:45Speaker 11: stuffed president to morow Resources and the DONA funding, he
- 50:49Speaker 11: turned his focus back to regional integration as a solution.
- 50:53Speaker 11: His goal was to create a common market that would
- 50:55Speaker 11: mitigate the frustrations of the World Bank and the mf's
- 50:58Speaker 11: economic sanctions and provide Kenya renewed access.
- 51:02Speaker 3: To regional markets.
- 51:05Speaker 11: To achieve this, he personally initiated talks with Tanzania's President
- 51:09Speaker 11: Ali Hassan Muni and Uganda's President Miltonopote.
- 51:12Speaker 3: Who had returned to power.
- 51:14Speaker 11: This bush for integration coincided with the end of the
- 51:17Speaker 11: Cold War and the rise of the Washington Consensus that
- 51:21Speaker 11: favored free market policies.
- 51:24Speaker 3: Both countries were.
- 51:25Speaker 11: Already on a part of force economic convergence due to
- 51:28Speaker 11: the IMF's structural adjustment programs, which for Tanzania meant dismantling
- 51:33Speaker 11: socialist system through the nineteen eighty six Economic Recovery program.
- 51:38Speaker 11: With the older ideological battles now moved and both countries
- 51:42Speaker 11: facing shared external pressure, the primary barrier to integration was gone.
- 51:48Speaker 11: This process culminated in the formal re establishment of the
- 51:51Speaker 11: East African Community in nineteen ninety nine. Despite the revived PC,
- 51:58Speaker 11: the new millennium fresh challenges that have tested the bond
- 52:02Speaker 11: of friendship between these two countries. For instance, in twenty thirteen,
- 52:06Speaker 11: a major diplomatic rift emerged over the pace of regional integration.
- 52:10Speaker 3: Frustrated with what they saw as.
- 52:12Speaker 11: Tanzania's slow approach, Penya joined Uganda and Randa in a
- 52:16Speaker 11: series of exclusive summits called the Coalition of the Winding
- 52:21Speaker 11: to first track projects like radios, oiled pipelines and a
- 52:26Speaker 11: single tourist visa. Tanzania viewed these trilateral talks, from which
- 52:32Speaker 11: it was excluded, a violation of AC protocols requiring consensus
- 52:37Speaker 11: on integration matters. In October twenty thirteen, Tanzania's government officially
- 52:42Speaker 11: protested the coalitions, shuiting that Kenya, Rwanda into Ganda of
- 52:46Speaker 11: contravening at about seven of the EEC Protocol by proceeding
- 52:50Speaker 11: without all member states. The statement warned that Tanzania felt
- 52:54Speaker 11: isolated by initiatives that should have been agreed upon by
- 52:58Speaker 11: all five EEC countries. The controversies load he has the
- 53:03Speaker 11: integration efforts and created mistress.
- 53:08Speaker 2: Come a better workay.
- 53:20Speaker 8: Of course the deal was assigned between the countries for
- 53:24Speaker 8: the white man's benefit. Again literally it's it's not for
- 53:29Speaker 8: the East African region benefit. It was for the white
- 53:34Speaker 8: man's benefit. And we can first forward, first forward it today.
- 53:37Speaker 8: You see again Kenya, the mentioned countries, Kenya, Rwanda, ka
- 53:42Speaker 8: Game who has been used to extract resources allegedly in
- 53:46Speaker 8: the DRC you know, and Uganda. They are all giving
- 53:50Speaker 8: away their resources right now, we can see all this happening. Well,
- 53:56Speaker 8: I do believe. Actually this time probably it was Julius,
- 53:59Speaker 8: It was Magufuli, it was Macgufulu was the president. So
- 54:04Speaker 8: who was again assigning this kind of deals.
- 54:07Speaker 11: The winning lost momentum as Tanzani engaged in regional projects.
- 54:10Speaker 11: By the twenty thirteen episode left recitue of wariness in
- 54:16Speaker 11: Kenya Tanzania relations. Also a long summerine dispute over two
- 54:20Speaker 11: operators played up between twenty fourteen and early twenty fifteen.
- 54:24Speaker 11: Tanzania had four years restricted Kenyan tourist events from entering
- 54:28Speaker 11: its national parks and airports, honoring a nineteen eighty five
- 54:33Speaker 11: bilateral code that limited where foreign to our vehicles would go.
- 54:38Speaker 11: Kenyan operators complained of losing business when denied access to
- 54:43Speaker 11: Tanzanian sites like the Saving Gate. In retaliation, Kenya invoked
- 54:48Speaker 11: the same old agreement. In January twenty fifteen, It banned
- 54:52Speaker 11: Tanzania and registered two events from entering to Mokenaka International
- 54:56Speaker 11: Airport and Kenyan Game Packs.
- 55:00Speaker 14: Registered two vehicles up being found from accessing airports, airstrips,
- 55:04Speaker 14: game results and parks in Kenya starting tomorrow. This comes
- 55:08Speaker 14: as negotiations between Kenya and Turns near to solve the
- 55:10Speaker 14: impulse of a.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Home they said.
- 55:13Speaker 5: The puzzle, they said, damn you said, is because they
- 55:16Speaker 5: they they cut Africanto too many countries. That's why they
- 55:22Speaker 5: keep them forward. They want to start to Russian. That
- 55:25Speaker 5: nobody want to break up Iran. They want to break
- 55:27Speaker 5: up Russia. You control when you've got a bunch of
- 55:30Speaker 5: countries broke up. So they control Africa, all the thicky
- 55:34Speaker 5: country on these crazy ass countries, Kenya, Nigeria, Dans and
- 55:39Speaker 5: d If you have one big country, you would have
- 55:44Speaker 5: these spikes and then you can uh uh give them
- 55:47Speaker 5: all his tribal ship because they would see themselves as
- 55:51Speaker 5: more African than just a goofy ethnic group. And the
- 55:55Speaker 5: Europeans did it on purpose, tyed out their concert to
- 55:58Speaker 5: keep African parmish and lose because.
- 56:02Speaker 1: Africa there's a bunch of small country.
- 56:04Speaker 5: The small it's just Kenya smaller than Texas. Imagine a
- 56:09Speaker 5: country smaller than the state in America. Kenya as a country.
- 56:12Speaker 1: Is smaller than the state of Texas.
- 56:17Speaker 5: So if that's on compass, so it would be all
- 56:20Speaker 5: these divisions and no unity, and so they would always.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Be able to be manipulated stolen from.
- 56:28Speaker 5: They'll have one big block like Africa, like Kenyan, Tanzania
- 56:33Speaker 5: and the Congo and some other countries all together, that's
- 56:36Speaker 5: one big, huge ass country. You got one present of
- 56:39Speaker 5: all that and all the decisions that made, and they
- 56:42Speaker 5: started to learn to love each other, get along, and
- 56:46Speaker 5: no identity, right, I mean rent shirt nationality. The Apple
- 56:51Speaker 5: becomes a superpower and the European stuffed that twenty years
- 56:56Speaker 5: ago with that Berlin Conference. That's because stay poor and exploited,
- 57:02Speaker 5: because there's too many countries, too many damn borders, right Jovin.
- 57:10Speaker 14: The fusty relations that date back to the eighties now
- 57:13Speaker 14: seem to have come to the full in neither country
- 57:15Speaker 14: looking likely to back down.
- 57:17Speaker 11: This state for Taturbin was explicitly a response to Tanzania's
- 57:21Speaker 11: refusal to allow Kenyan to a into Tanzanian attractions. The
- 57:26Speaker 11: restriction disrupted tourism flows and the sour relations.
- 57:30Speaker 5: Look how stupid that is, How stupid that not this
- 57:34Speaker 5: not allow some canyon. We're gonna cause a fake border
- 57:37Speaker 5: carry by white people. It's not to let Kenyans take
- 57:41Speaker 5: white people into the same day because the line of
- 57:45Speaker 5: fake bore.
- 57:46Speaker 1: Big line paid by white people.
- 57:49Speaker 5: That two black people that argue in two many years ago,
- 57:52Speaker 5: the worlds are born there, there's just one big old
- 57:56Speaker 5: Area's no bordered.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Crazy.
- 58:03Speaker 11: They would respect Enya's band, even as both sides accognized
- 58:06Speaker 11: the harm to a key industry. I done only twenty
- 58:11Speaker 11: fifteen to resolve the twelve one war. By March twenty fifteen,
- 58:15Speaker 11: Kenya and two earthistory instead of the nineteen eighty five OCD,
- 58:19Speaker 11: with clear rules on where tour vehicles from each country
- 58:23Speaker 11: would operate.
- 58:24Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, one creation of a round queen led
- 58:29Speaker 3: to dramatic fiction.
- 58:31Speaker 11: Uganda was deciding whether to route a new oil expert
- 58:34Speaker 11: pipeline through Kenya or through Tanzania. Tensions spiked in the
- 58:38Speaker 11: March twenty sixteen, when Kenya's energy minister and his delegation
- 58:42Speaker 11: were blocked from entering Tanzania for a meeting about the
- 58:45Speaker 11: pipeline route, even as Ugandan officials were allowed in. This
- 58:50Speaker 11: snub was appointed message amid the rivalry to win the
- 58:54Speaker 11: pipeline deal. Ultimately, Uganda chose the Tanzanian route to the
- 58:58Speaker 11: port of Tanga. I said, the incident of strain traditions.
- 59:03Speaker 11: Can you saw it as a breach of diplomatic fantasy?
- 59:06Speaker 11: Tanzania was it amazic amazine.
- 59:09Speaker 5: If you get all three countries, not just one area, everybody,
- 59:13Speaker 5: Joe said, anybody would benefit in that weld and you
- 59:16Speaker 5: can actually contain not white people, right, so you benefit.
- 59:20Speaker 5: I want to be against Kenya and Uganda and Tanzania fighting.
- 59:25Speaker 5: There has been one area United Africa and it is
- 59:30Speaker 5: what it deal with the best for the people. They're
- 59:33Speaker 5: making money. But no, you got these goopie borders, these
- 59:37Speaker 5: dupide countries, and it causes rivalry and division on purpose.
- 59:43Speaker 5: That's what it does, and that's what it and fu
- 59:51Speaker 5: looking and see and that's what it's still.
- 59:52Speaker 1: About to say. Hell see say hell state is starting.
- 59:56Speaker 5: To make it the United States of Africa. That's why
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: they gotta kill these Negro because now I member.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Now they're integrating.
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: Mali, Naga, Bikinni for the migrating that they're immigrating, that
- 1:00:11Speaker 5: they're merging their militaries, the merging the economics.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: And which one would you shown with this each this
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: this resource.
- 1:00:19Speaker 5: Better than fighting? They said, no, no, none of that.
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: We're merging the economics and our resources. It will be
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: one resource board. You won't go talk to Mali, you
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: won't go talk to Niger. You won't go talk to
- 1:00:32Speaker 5: Bikini Fossil. They understands how they kept them four and fighting.
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: You're gonna talk to one person.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: The A s.
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: If you want any kind of resource and development, you're
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: gonna talk to one person that represents Maley, Bikini Fossil,
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: and Niger exactly. And so if you get other countries joining,
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: that means they're gonna say is gonna speak to them
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: other countries as well.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: This is what the White mass stared up.
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: You get the United States and right all these division
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: Kenya fighting your guy your guy and fighting king.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna let me say something. I'm gonna be bruller
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: right here. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna be bulled
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: right here.
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: Okay, Kenya right now, even though it's corrupt as hell,
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: But tens then now is corrupt too because they got
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: pumpets in the down too, So I can't say Tanzdy
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: is more more less correct than Kenyon. Ken you right now, me,
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: I would overthrow Runo. And even though Africa doesn't have
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: real military, Kenya's military is better than tanzan Is is
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: now and better than your bod how better than I
- 1:01:50Speaker 5: take the asshole I apoly check because nobody likes salut rass.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: And they all and really they're all brothers.
- 1:01:58Speaker 5: He doesn't don't get the fake for that white people
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: because there'll be some anger. I just don't take their
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: ass over your garden. That cannot stop the war against Kenyon.
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: All right, all right, forget what Captain Crunch is telling
- 1:02:12Speaker 5: you he being military. I'm telling you Kenya would easily
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: be the war against you Ganda EASi lead then will
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: put out there easily. I'm not saying kings don't break
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: military power. But other than leaders you Ganda and fucking fans,
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: it is the joke. But ken your dance, I'm a
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: stronger military.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Then you, God, and you and Kenya, not just in
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: my opinion and my.
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: Military opinion, because conquer tans it there and get conquered,
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: you're gone.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: Oh and I bet anybody put that GPG. I'm there.
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: I'm right, I bet I'm gonna they overthrow you gander
- 1:02:59Speaker 5: and a hot second, canuble overpone your brother in a
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: hot second and more overpon with then maybe I'm.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: More am more teasily and maybe two but nable, movable easily?
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: Did you put? Then a change in me to ask
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: I know all that, I'll tell you true, very young,
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: That's what I would think.
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: This was reinforced analogy of strategic competition.
- 1:03:31Speaker 11: It also foreshadowed a series of minor tradia and travel
- 1:03:34Speaker 11: and disagreements that year. Indeed, throughout twenty sixteen, Official centerders
- 1:03:38Speaker 11: on both sides traded complaints over market access and the permits,
- 1:03:42Speaker 11: reflecting an increasingly nationalistic economic stance in Tanzania under President
- 1:03:47Speaker 11: John mcguffuley, who took office in plates fifteen. These frictions
- 1:03:54Speaker 11: set the stage for more serious disputes in twenty seventeen
- 1:03:58Speaker 11: now twenty seventeen so.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: And in the year by lateral trail to erupted.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:04:05Speaker 11: In April twenty seventeen, abruptly banned Tanzanian wheat, flower and
- 1:04:10Speaker 11: cooking gas imports, citing quality and safety concerns. When Kenya
- 1:04:15Speaker 11: refused to present tanzaniat blocking.
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: Of a positive it so alf the don's make is
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: all with hands there, so please not gonna be starved
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: with uh Ukrainian about.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: That, because I get many relations and.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: Like Joby said, you try the TheInk is a part
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: we the Kenya to make all the bay they need.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: That's right. They got, you know, damn it as you got.
- 1:04:53Speaker 11: Ukraine Strade protocols in drugged on for months. I'm in
- 1:05:00Speaker 11: businesses on both sides. It was on the result in
- 1:05:03Speaker 11: Acasta twenty seventeen, after direct intervention by the heads of state,
- 1:05:08Speaker 11: President and President John mccuffully met and agreed to live
- 1:05:13Speaker 11: all the mutual bands as announced by Tanzania's foreign minister,
- 1:05:18Speaker 11: both countries restored access to them.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: About it, he dot it was all polly.
- 1:05:26Speaker 5: You have cousins, Lily, cousins in Kenya's parliament and is parliament,
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: and you got in parliament that I'm Kenyan, but cousins
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: li truly because I was one warrior when the British
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: and the Germans came and broke it up and started
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: killing people and making him slow, and got a little
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: cousin and set in Kenya's parliament and is parliament, and
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: then you found this parliament truly cousin.
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: Cousins family has it that a crazy boy joy.
- 1:06:09Speaker 11: And the former A twenty Committee to address train barriers
- 1:06:13Speaker 11: letter In twenty seventeen, relations salad again over a drastic
- 1:06:16Speaker 11: border enforcement by Tanzania. In October twenty seventeen, Tanzanian authorities
- 1:06:21Speaker 11: seized an auction of over one thy three hundred keyan
- 1:06:25Speaker 11: cat that had wandered into northern Tanzania for pastor. The
- 1:06:30Speaker 11: hats belonged to Kenyan Marsaiahadders, who traditionally crazy.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: How would you do that? He tells me, Why would
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: you do that?
- 1:06:36Speaker 5: They that were like theres these things. I'm like, I
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: think that these things just do ship to be stupid.
- 1:06:41Speaker 5: I would give you know those the King and message
- 1:06:44Speaker 5: people ship, but you know you that the messine trains
- 1:06:47Speaker 5: me too because I took umber of the big How
- 1:06:49Speaker 5: do you can make the cares?
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: I understand this very ship like this are just still
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: somebody's town.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: This is christ right Jazania. Now fusion has trespassive.
- 1:07:04Speaker 11: Then in November twenty seventeen, Tanzanian officials then among the
- 1:07:07Speaker 11: order cost impounded the banned alive six thousand, four hundred
- 1:07:11Speaker 11: day old chicks that a Kayan trader had brought in
- 1:07:14Speaker 11: extensively to prevent heavier disease imports. These harsh measures or
- 1:07:22Speaker 11: aeropelged a formal diplomatic protest note over what it termed
- 1:07:25Speaker 11: hostile actions against Anian citizens and even some among the
- 1:07:29Speaker 11: Tanzania's High commissioner to explain the unilateral livestock destruction. The
- 1:07:36Speaker 11: business community and animal welfare groups in both countries also
- 1:07:39Speaker 11: condemned the thick banning incident.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: Tanzania officials defended.
- 1:07:43Speaker 15: Their album as law enforcement into this control, noting the
- 1:07:46Speaker 15: chicks were contraband and citing fears of bird flu, although
- 1:07:50Speaker 15: Kenya pointed out it had no bardy flow cases at
- 1:07:54Speaker 15: the time.
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: These incidents nearly caused a full diplomatic follow with.
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: Media that is extreme he on disease. Oh this this
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: is what you call nigga ship. This is nigga ship
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: what the white man calls that These niggas are stupid
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: and they get it. They can't get along, they can't
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: come themself. They shouldn't even bru this by. You went
- 1:08:21Speaker 5: to Kenya and you guys got some animals here the
- 1:08:23Speaker 5: night check come and get him. That's it, and make
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: sure tell your people to keep their control of them,
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: because we're concerned about maybe the thousands of livestock harving
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: diseases the cause an outbreak.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: That's all you do. You don't do all this crazy shit.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: Nigga ship uncalled for nonsense.
- 1:08:47Speaker 11: He jovi for more, Professor Localdi as the cattle had
- 1:08:52Speaker 11: been sold and sticks destroyed the tensions gradually into twenty
- 1:08:56Speaker 11: eighteen through mediation.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: He doesn't make this this it makes Avacan's life and
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: stopped this. His niggas ship get a whole country. This
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: fruit almost some fucking cow.
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: We had niggas canny govern himself. They arguing about cow
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: across the border.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: They can't even rectify that like normal people.
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: They gonna go whole coat the out his little water
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: on a fucking people of cows.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Are you ready to do kaz Mans Let till Kenyon.
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: Hey, you guys get some unauthorized cows on the border,
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: and we're concerned about the health of them, and so
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: what we're gonna do, We're gonna brook the side, We're
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: gonna quarantine them, and then when we shut that this
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: they're safe and the night disease, we're gonna release them
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: back to you. That's it.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: That's gates an't known ship.
- 1:09:55Speaker 5: My abert is twenty years behind developmenty shit's crazy.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: Oh I can't this make a goal.
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: We're gonna keep the cows until we make sure that
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: they're clear of disease, and then we're gonna return you
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: your live stock.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: So there's no problem.
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: Lets you people know which is concerned about all people
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: and maybe these cows are caring disease and said we're
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: gonna quarantine him off, then we're gonna give him back
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: to your people.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: So there's no problem. This is crazy and what can
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: he be tau what you know? As you me and
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: people walk out, you're laughing stuff. This is ridiculous ship.
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: Thanks being there as an African or anybody wants to
- 1:10:33Speaker 5: be an African. Fucking cows and ship crazy right?
- 1:10:38Speaker 11: So notably, years later, included two Tanzanian president says Luko Hassan,
- 1:10:44Speaker 11: won't you publicly concede that bunning the chicks.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: Was on.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Friendly.
- 1:10:50Speaker 5: There was stupid na tell me they're gonna make you say,
- 1:10:54Speaker 5: there's my social the whole sting.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: The two niggas can't govern yourself. That's a back when
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: they retired ship. It's crazy some miners.
- 1:11:03Speaker 5: That some Genian calves go across the borders and it's
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: the end of the world. What you have an The
- 1:11:11Speaker 5: fisher said, Gate, we're gonna think you talk to people's guards,
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: who is okay? Guys whoever, we don't know these guys
- 1:11:17Speaker 5: came from then up.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: They're sick. So what we're gonna do.
- 1:11:20Speaker 5: We're gonna quarantine for a couple of weeks. We're gonna
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: make sure they're not sick.
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: It's sure.
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: It's because they don't want all population getting sick. The actor,
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: we're sure they're not sick. We're gonna release them back
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: to you. You you spain that to the people, they
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: won't get it. Expect they're not stealing there and not
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: still the property, and you're getting a fathy back your insandy.
- 1:11:45Speaker 7: All right.
- 1:11:47Speaker 11: This was exemplifying as much over opinion snacks down the
- 1:11:51Speaker 11: Sweet Ski War as then I refused to print dutifully
- 1:11:55Speaker 11: access to Openion made confection because.
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: That spin alleging that.
- 1:12:04Speaker 8: Blueberry oh mister Berry's.
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: Oh damn industry sugar.
- 1:12:13Speaker 8: No, the companies they're talking about, that's why they disappeared.
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: I'm seeing them on the screen.
- 1:12:19Speaker 11: That's exemption. That is serious performance. Tanzanian customs imposed twenty
- 1:12:24Speaker 11: five percent in post duty on these key products, effectively
- 1:12:29Speaker 11: barring popular and Tanzanian selves.
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: So this is a protectionist.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: That's working. They got you many goopi war, I got
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: you many boardward that don't make sense.
- 1:12:47Speaker 5: And it's been more the league, the country, the egos
- 1:12:50Speaker 5: like I'm the big nigga.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: I'm the big nigga. What I seem like? You come
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: more complains there then they canyan like kill like tell this,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: I'll bucking shoot it. What are you doing? We you
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: don't care. They can't think of a problem.
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: Chlish R Country Tanzanian goods. With these issues one resolved.
- 1:13:24Speaker 11: It gave the slum and altimatum to allow inspections of
- 1:13:28Speaker 11: Penian factories by the end of May to verify sugar sauce.
- 1:13:32Speaker 11: Regional trip talks were convened to diffuse days had of
- 1:13:36Speaker 11: twenty eighteen at the Rose Rich, Tanzanian experts inspected Kenian
- 1:13:41Speaker 11: confectionery plants, and upon confirming compliance in cases where local
- 1:13:45Speaker 11: or properly it iss fugar was Tanzania lifted the pinitive taxes. Also,
- 1:13:50Speaker 11: the COVID nineteen pandemic cross new attentions in twenty twenty,
- 1:13:53Speaker 11: as penn and Tanzania adopted slightly different strategies, Penia took
- 1:13:57Speaker 11: a more cautious approach, instituting lockdowns.
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: Testing here were Tanzania under.
- 1:14:06Speaker 5: Every enemy amy enemy sneak across the borough.
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: And stopped by these divergences.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Let me.
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: Disc instances of border closure.
- 1:14:21Speaker 11: In May, when identified across border truck drivers aspectors for
- 1:14:26Speaker 11: COVID nineteen enmlated that all long ald trackers, including those
- 1:14:30Speaker 11: from Tanzania, present negative place results to enter. After dozens
- 1:14:35Speaker 11: of Tanzanian drivers tested positive at the Kenya border and
- 1:14:38Speaker 11: rougy restricted entry at key crossings, President maku Fulis administration
- 1:14:42Speaker 11: swiftly retalgated to all Kenyan vehicles and travelers and the
- 1:14:46Speaker 11: cross that this effectively halted the most overland trading and
- 1:14:52Speaker 11: travel between these two countries or weeks standing.
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: Goods and crossing losses, clouds of frustrated traders and which.
- 1:15:01Speaker 7: Was alive.
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: Mother no ago, but I've said it over up channel.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: I don't call them bullshit, but you know what, he
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: knows a lot right and just had a had h.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: I just had a hearing. They said to hear him
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: with doctor BOUNTI lying because that I knows this a scam.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: There was a chance with the hat trying out alive people. Yeah,
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: so opinions that deal with the white man.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: Told us to do.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: I don't And if people took that, you know what took.
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: That those people are now dying and out alive anywhere
- 1:15:51Speaker 5: all over the plane.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: Then they taught that doctor bout you that too with
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: that hearing. Yeah, that's his wife. H.
- 1:16:06Speaker 13: I know.
- 1:16:08Speaker 11: Gon annoyed job relations great as each side who blamed
- 1:16:12Speaker 11: the other from mishandling the situation. There also war of
- 1:16:18Speaker 11: words in late July twenty twenty when a Kenya's president
- 1:16:21Speaker 11: of Uru Kenyata, without naming names, remarked in a televised
- 1:16:24Speaker 11: address that the fact that countries control what happens does
- 1:16:28Speaker 11: not mean they are fine, expressing that Kenya preferred openness
- 1:16:31Speaker 11: in the pandemic management. This was widely integrated a SA
- 1:16:35Speaker 11: review to Tanzania, which had declared itself to be free
- 1:16:39Speaker 11: without credible data. But at the same time, a Kenyan
- 1:16:42Speaker 11: energy lineary to Tanzania for former President in Kappa's mineral
- 1:16:47Speaker 11: was denied landing permission Midifi, with Tanzanian authorities holdly citing
- 1:16:52Speaker 11: bad weather, an explanation met with skepticism as the incident
- 1:16:57Speaker 11: occurred that and made the diplomatic chief when can you
- 1:16:59Speaker 11: be gun reopening air travel? In August past to twenty twenty,
- 1:17:03Speaker 11: it reportedly excluded Tanzania from its list of countries allowed
- 1:17:08Speaker 11: to send in flights, reflecting concern over Tanzania's COVID situation.
- 1:17:13Speaker 11: Speaking offense, Tanzania's aviation authority banned Penian NATIONALTARIA flights Tenia
- 1:17:18Speaker 11: Airways on a reciprocal basis tested for tut flight running
- 1:17:22Speaker 11: lasted until Tanzania was eventually added to Penia's.
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: Shape list later in the year. The additionally marked a
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: low point, with.
- 1:17:29Speaker 11: Observers warning their such disputes undermined the spirit of the agacy.
- 1:17:34Speaker 11: The twenty twenty COVID nineteen row cost a mere breakdown
- 1:17:39Speaker 11: in cooperation for several months. Trade along the border's lad
- 1:17:42Speaker 11: dramatically in the bilateral meetings, since each country's press was
- 1:17:48Speaker 11: openly critical of the other's policies. The impulse only truly
- 1:17:52Speaker 11: mended after a change in Tanzania's.
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: Or don't doing nothing back the people that because they
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: knew the truth.
- 1:18:02Speaker 5: Remember, all these African countries are controled by white people
- 1:18:06Speaker 5: and that's all, and it's clear and COVID you can
- 1:18:08Speaker 5: see it. God had the same fuck up. But you
- 1:18:11Speaker 5: dined at Kenyon. But because I was a cat with
- 1:18:15Speaker 5: the hats trying to do what he popped these niggas
- 1:18:18Speaker 5: and everywhere around the planet there was the population time.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: But that's when you clearly knew to the even.
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: Tracing of that to You clearly knew that Africans didn't
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: want no Africa because you've seen the same ship from
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: Kenyon Ageria.
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: You dine there south of Hyderaga.
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: Simba way, you've seen the same fucking policies. The only
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: out why you had was Tanzanier on the whole fucking
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: content and one of the chillers ads he had to go.
- 1:18:49Speaker 5: But you've seen that none of these niggas ride no
- 1:18:52Speaker 5: African country.
- 1:18:53Speaker 11: That was in your face very judy day and was
- 1:19:00Speaker 11: succeeded by samaZulu has who took a more scientific approach
- 1:19:05Speaker 11: to COVID and immediately sold.
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: Through restore friendly ties with open.
- 1:19:08Speaker 11: Hest appeared the way for resolving they travel and the
- 1:19:11Speaker 11: trade emphasis left.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Wemerson.
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: Never see the puppet they put in the first month
- 1:19:16Speaker 5: she started all implement them same COVID shit.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: Remember she overturned everything. Maga Folly. Did you get the
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: ass some power? She's a puppet.
- 1:19:27Speaker 5: I told you when you first seen that guy, the
- 1:19:29Speaker 5: main puppet there. I had Maugrel. When when when when
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: Megapolly died? Now you see, oh, British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
- 1:19:40Speaker 5: When you see Tony Blair, you know what time it is?
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: You know, Oh, what the fuck is Tony Blair, the
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: former British Prime minister doing.
- 1:19:51Speaker 5: That to lou who's in uh uh inauguration back in
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: twenty twenty one.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: You're like, you are well now you are well known.
- 1:20:04Speaker 8: Because you're right here again.
- 1:20:15Speaker 11: Authorities suddenly burned in parts of Tanzanian and Ugandan Maze,
- 1:20:20Speaker 11: citing studies that found excessive of latoxin neigraine shipments. The
- 1:20:24Speaker 11: band coming without prior consultation angered Tanzania. Tanzanian officials protested
- 1:20:29Speaker 11: that the move was driven more by protectionism than health
- 1:20:32Speaker 11: concerns because Kenya's domestic farmers were lobbying for price support
- 1:20:36Speaker 11: to the timing coincided with President Samir's laws. Assent to
- 1:20:40Speaker 11: power rather than escalated to President Samir dispatched trade and
- 1:20:45Speaker 11: agriculture teams to negotiate with Nairobi and urged calm, even
- 1:20:49Speaker 11: as headlines decried Kenya's abrupt measure you in President Samir's
- 1:20:53Speaker 11: staid a visit to Kenya In one our first poetry,
- 1:20:57Speaker 11: the two sides reached and attributes to lift the island
- 1:21:00Speaker 11: and any have standards that Enia would ancertain lains the
- 1:21:05Speaker 11: last in safety tests. More broadly, Samya Hussan and President
- 1:21:11Speaker 11: NATO to this opportunity to reset relationships. They announced the
- 1:21:14Speaker 11: resolution of over twenty and twenty farriers that had an
- 1:21:17Speaker 11: unpat treade, ranging from customs relays to product standards. The
- 1:21:23Speaker 11: positive diplomacy paid off by mid twenty twenty two, bylateral
- 1:21:27Speaker 11: trade was boombing, crossing the one billion DNA mark for
- 1:21:30Speaker 11: the first time, and dozens of petty trade disputes inherited
- 1:21:34Speaker 11: from the North fully years were amicably settled. The main
- 1:21:38Speaker 11: spared of two twenty one thus transformed into an example
- 1:21:41Speaker 11: of successful operation after conflict. Despite the good will under
- 1:21:48Speaker 11: President Samir Hassan, some tensions resurfaced in twenty twenty three,
- 1:21:53Speaker 11: especially in trade global factors like high food prices from
- 1:21:56Speaker 11: the Tanzania to protect in.
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: Its market and rectally into two two three, Anzania's government
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: composed new.
- 1:22:02Speaker 11: Export conditions from grains to the release destiny An Fedders now.
- 1:22:07Speaker 16: Harsh Navigans strip rules, including a registrained that aftas in
- 1:22:10Speaker 16: Tanzania and obtaining special appearances which greatly restricted May's experts.
- 1:22:15Speaker 16: For Kenya, the result was a sharp decline in Kenya's
- 1:22:19Speaker 16: import grain from Tanzania. In fact, Kenya's imports from Tanzania
- 1:22:24Speaker 16: in the first half of thredetar degree plummeted by over
- 1:22:26Speaker 16: thirty percent year or year, the steepest drop in seven years.
- 1:22:33Speaker 16: Media on both sides described this as a renewed trade war,
- 1:22:36Speaker 16: noting that such a steep fall in trade was reminiscent
- 1:22:40Speaker 16: of the Margufuli era fields Hay and Miller's and consumers
- 1:22:44Speaker 16: perfectly as Maze supplies titled grain from further afield for
- 1:22:51Speaker 16: example Zambia or even over since defended the grain export
- 1:22:57Speaker 16: roots as necessary to ensure food secure and encouraging local
- 1:23:01Speaker 16: processing by Vacenan officials quietly raised concerns through diplomatic channels,
- 1:23:06Speaker 16: worry of igniting a public rule. In July twenty twenty three,
- 1:23:10Speaker 16: Kenya's new president, William Luto visited are Islam to meet
- 1:23:14Speaker 16: President Sama, and although the visit was cordial, three issues
- 1:23:18Speaker 16: won the agenda.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: The body them consist Kenyon.
- 1:23:26Speaker 5: Press book, necking, do ships scrape o a ship made
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: some Africa is keep pres it's all British ship.
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: By late twenty twenty three, there were signs of easy restrictions.
- 1:23:41Speaker 11: Tanzania announced it had eliminated dozens of trade barriers with
- 1:23:46Speaker 11: Kenya over the prior four years. Nonetheless, they early twenty
- 1:23:49Speaker 11: three May saga showed that underlying protectionist instincts in both
- 1:23:55Speaker 11: countries instead regan friction.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: The most recent episode was in.
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: And what you call them?
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: Let me say say I get that's happen again. You
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: gotta keep one bad. That's what you call too many
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: cooks in the kitchen. Now, why you should know all
- 1:24:09Speaker 5: these many countries in Africa, there's too many niggas wanna
- 1:24:12Speaker 5: be cheep. These countries have gotta go man. Too many countries.
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: He look, now, we got mats in Africa, got fifty
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: something countries. I have a cotton. They got that many countries.
- 1:24:25Speaker 5: Oh no, no, nobody because the Europeans created to make
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: sure Africans stay poor. And all these goupie niggas are
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: getting back and forth coals and ship opening up ship,
- 1:24:36Speaker 5: coals and ship open up ship and man the argument joy,
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: we never getting nothing done. The king is cold, okay,
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: tell me, I'm sorry.
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: That's all bud. And then whatever you we get out
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: all just cold. The Yankee y so I damn it.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: Too many cooks in the kitchen.
- 1:24:56Speaker 8: Yeah, but that is that is again the copy and
- 1:24:59Speaker 8: paste of COSM. The African countries have the same issues
- 1:25:01Speaker 8: when it comes to borders, the same same thing. You'll
- 1:25:05Speaker 8: find countries cannot easily tread with each other without having
- 1:25:09Speaker 8: all these border disputes. Like looking at first has been
- 1:25:12Speaker 8: having issues with them, that is Benina since they took power,
- 1:25:18Speaker 8: because they are not sure if Benin of course they're
- 1:25:22Speaker 8: going to be able to tread.
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:25:24Speaker 8: And terrorism also if these people being used to also
- 1:25:27Speaker 8: bringing terrorists. So I think they're just of the issue
- 1:25:30Speaker 8: just recently. But again it's not going to last long
- 1:25:33Speaker 8: because they've been having also that back and forth. You know,
- 1:25:35Speaker 8: there's really just someone wants to do right and someone
- 1:25:38Speaker 8: wants to do wrong. So you can see that is.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: Well from European in the ill job.
- 1:25:51Speaker 12: So.
- 1:25:56Speaker 8: Exactly exactly. But I do believe actually if we have
- 1:26:01Speaker 8: that common you know, if we had again leaders probably
- 1:26:04Speaker 8: like Julius Nerere, maybe mcgufuli, or maybe like Cannie Bryan
- 1:26:09Speaker 8: and the rest who we're seeing today, and countries can
- 1:26:13Speaker 8: allow themselves to work together, it's going to be easy.
- 1:26:16Speaker 8: And sometimes and where they come from because from the
- 1:26:19Speaker 8: word go they try to talk to Kenya, but Kenya
- 1:26:21Speaker 8: said no. So you know, of course it was not
- 1:26:28Speaker 8: the people, it was the white and the white men
- 1:26:30Speaker 8: of course involved. But that's what I'm saying. I don't
- 1:26:33Speaker 8: understand where the country is coming from because you came
- 1:26:36Speaker 8: in with good intentions. But now these countries are also
- 1:26:39Speaker 8: making decisions without you being involved. So this is going
- 1:26:42Speaker 8: to force you to make Hasha rules. You know, it's
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: going to force you to make literally different decisions. But
- 1:26:48Speaker 8: as we wrap it up, we're going to be coming
- 1:26:49Speaker 8: back with the Writtam scripture and so you join in.
- 1:26:53Speaker 8: You're asking if the mama is still around. Not the
- 1:26:55Speaker 8: last mama actually died. I think they see um and Sam.
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: No heed what I'm saying. He's not the momy granddad
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: was is a mama. Oh I cat the man. I
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: didn't know. He's not. You need to great, He's not
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: that mean you love though.
- 1:27:30Speaker 5: He's all as hell, hopefully, he said, I tell him
- 1:27:33Speaker 5: Aposta live, I get there.
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: I want to interview this man personally alive.
- 1:27:41Speaker 8: Hope he's hope he's gonna be a life.
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: I hope too. I hope, he said, he said, it's
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: been alive in two years. I said, I don't know,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: but how you know? I don't know. Come the next year, though,
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: I don't know. The more because the more that is
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: only think the more they're like sixty.
- 1:28:08Speaker 5: Eight yeah, the more that that would be almost mail eighty.
- 1:28:14Speaker 8: Almost okay, you know around and that says the cooking
- 1:28:20Speaker 8: gases a racket gas infrastructure should be dug providing construction
- 1:28:24Speaker 8: jobs and prices would be more affordable.
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: I do agree.
- 1:28:28Speaker 8: Shout to Gera, Okay, I hope you're doing amazing and
- 1:28:31Speaker 8: thank you for joining. Says just put them in aparentine.
- 1:28:34Speaker 8: If they died, then you know, and then drama scritures
- 1:28:38Speaker 8: to see you. Hope you're doing great today. Jak says
- 1:28:41Speaker 8: a soft global genocide, says everyone you know in my
- 1:28:46Speaker 8: circle took that health that health issues.
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, they took them. You know what?
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: They all right, they still live it again. They're white
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: aby here, no they I've told you that.
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: Monday on the show, we're talking about the dodgy hearings
- 1:29:11Speaker 5: in the garment ship. They're talking about you know, all
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: these people. But then I go, they're gonna do that
- 1:29:16Speaker 5: drunk because the days the cats and dance were American
- 1:29:19Speaker 5: round the world and we know they are all the
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- 1:29:30Speaker 8: Have yes, But literally that's our conversation for today. You
- 1:29:35Speaker 8: have some beautiful rest part of your morning. But you
- 1:29:39Speaker 8: can join us on the rim scripture. If not to
- 1:29:41Speaker 8: see you guys on Monday, same time, the same place, Keep.
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: As always inappropriate, Yes really.
- 1:29:55Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, much love family, have a beautiful day every day.
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