Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #346 Father's Day Tribute
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now, once you realize that you're not getting it right
- 0:13Speaker 2: the discipline and the child wearing thing, you discover that
- 0:16Speaker 2: it's not about the kids, it's about you.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
- 0:21Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Well, what a week. It's been Father's Day happening this Sunday,
- 0:27Speaker 2: and I don't know what's coming up in today's podcast, Kylie,
- 0:30Speaker 2: you've got that all covered. But we've talked to your dad,
- 0:31Speaker 2: We've talked to my dad, we've talked to Alli've got
- 0:33Speaker 2: a mentor and father figured to me. And today so
- 0:37Speaker 2: by the way, I'm justin Doc Justin Coilson, dad to
- 0:39Speaker 2: six daughters, author of six books about raising happy families.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Here with Kylie, my wife and one of those girls
- 0:45Speaker 2: and podcast co hosts. What are we doing today? What
- 0:48Speaker 2: have you got planned?
- 0:49Speaker 3: You know, it's really hard to surprise you. You just seem
- 0:53Speaker 3: to know whenever something's going on.
- 0:55Speaker 2: I know something's going on today.
- 0:58Speaker 3: But Mother's Day it was such a beautiful experience for me.
- 1:02Speaker 3: You interviewed our girls and they just said some beautiful
- 1:05Speaker 3: things about me, and I wanted to return the favor.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I figured that's what you were asking me. Why you
- 1:12Speaker 2: were asking me how to use all the equipment.
- 1:14Speaker 3: I'm just hoping I pushed the right buttons and by
- 1:17Speaker 3: now we don't have dead air. But I was able
- 1:20Speaker 3: to spend some time with our girls in the studio
- 1:21Speaker 3: and ask them a few questions about you. What does
- 1:27Speaker 3: Daddy always say to you?
- 1:29Speaker 4: You got to love the hills, You got a love
- 1:31Speaker 4: the hills.
- 1:32Speaker 3: What's the thing that you love most about Dad?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Easily like his really resilience and the way that he
- 1:37Speaker 1: just bounces back from things.
- 1:39Speaker 5: I really like the way that he treats you, and
- 1:43Speaker 5: that has kind of raised the bar for me for
- 1:47Speaker 5: what I want in a boyfriend and her husband.
- 1:49Speaker 4: I love how Dad is constantly trying to push me
- 1:52Speaker 4: to do my best, even if I feel like I've
- 1:56Speaker 4: done as much as I can. He always pushes me the.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Way he's and he puts on his direct deodoran.
- 2:05Speaker 6: One of the things I love most about dat is
- 2:07Speaker 6: that he showed me what I deserved in a husband
- 2:12Speaker 6: and the way that I should be treated as a
- 2:14Speaker 6: wife by the way that he acted with my mum.
- 2:18Speaker 1: One of the things. That is probably my favorite is
- 2:22Speaker 1: he constantly pushes me to have a positive attitude, and
- 2:26Speaker 1: no matter what I do, he's always there for me,
- 2:29Speaker 1: cheering me on.
- 2:30Speaker 3: How would you describe him to someone who's never met him.
- 2:33Speaker 3: He's not as scary as all my friends seemed to say,
- 2:36Speaker 3: and he thinks he's funny.
- 2:37Speaker 1: He's kind of harry.
- 2:40Speaker 4: He's somebody who always strives to do better than his best.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I would describe my dad as a hard worker. When
- 2:46Speaker 1: it comes between family and work, there is no decision
- 2:50Speaker 1: at all. He loves us and family is more important
- 2:53Speaker 1: than anything to him.
- 2:54Speaker 5: I'd remind them that he thinks he's a bit funny,
- 2:57Speaker 5: and so he might try to do a little bit
- 2:59Speaker 5: of a.
- 3:00Speaker 6: I want to be all serious and I'm Ella's dad,
- 3:02Speaker 6: and I'm going to scare you a little bit, But
- 3:05Speaker 6: it's all just a joke, so don't take it too seriously.
- 3:08Speaker 5: He just thinks he's funny.
- 3:10Speaker 2: My dad is.
- 3:11Speaker 6: A very hard working man.
- 3:14Speaker 5: He always gives.
- 3:15Speaker 6: One hundred and ten percent into everything that he does.
- 3:17Speaker 6: He always wants to be better. How does your dad
- 3:20Speaker 6: show that he loves you?
- 3:22Speaker 1: He lets me listen to my music in the car,
- 3:24Speaker 1: even when he doesn't want to I snuggle up with him.
- 3:28Speaker 4: He's constantly trying to make time for us.
- 3:32Speaker 6: I actually think that Dad and I always always had
- 3:35Speaker 6: a really good bond and our ability to be able
- 3:39Speaker 6: to communicate with each other.
- 3:41Speaker 1: He shows it every day, even when he gets mad
- 3:44Speaker 1: at me, or we have a bit of an argument
- 3:47Speaker 1: at the end of the day, or after a little
- 3:50Speaker 1: break I've gone to my room, he comes in and
- 3:53Speaker 1: he asks for forgiveness.
- 3:55Speaker 5: He's normal first person that I like to talk to,
- 3:57Speaker 5: and the way that he listens to me and in
- 4:01Speaker 5: trucks when we have conversations really shows to me how
- 4:05Speaker 5: much he cares for me.
- 4:07Speaker 3: When was the last time your dad made you laugh?
- 4:10Speaker 1: A couple hours ago?
- 4:11Speaker 4: It was this afternoon, just today.
- 4:14Speaker 5: In the car.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Today we were singing the roll call from the office.
- 4:20Speaker 4: My name is Daddy. Yeah, I'm very strong. Yeah.
- 4:24Speaker 1: When I thought, yeah, what's the ending, it really pomps.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Tell me about your favorite daddy daughter time together.
- 4:35Speaker 4: When we were kids, Dad used to play music and
- 4:38Speaker 4: he would dance around the room with us, and that
- 4:41Speaker 4: was always something that was really fun.
- 4:44Speaker 6: Ever since I was a little girl. There's this one
- 4:47Speaker 6: song that my Dad and I always dance to Blue
- 4:50Speaker 6: Hotel by Chris Isaac.
- 4:58Speaker 2: What makes you proud of Dad.
- 5:00Speaker 6: The way that he knows how to best help people
- 5:04Speaker 6: and is able to make an impact in their lives
- 5:06Speaker 6: as a result. Dad knows what he wants, and he
- 5:10Speaker 6: works hard to get what he wants, and he always
- 5:13Speaker 6: strives to be better.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I'm proud that he spends so much time doing work,
- 5:19Speaker 1: and even when the schedule's really tight, he still makes
- 5:23Speaker 1: time for his family.
- 5:25Speaker 2: My Dad's a hero to me.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Happy Father's Day. I love your Dad.
- 5:30Speaker 6: I love your dad, but I'm never watching the footage
- 5:33Speaker 6: with you ever again.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Happy Father's Day, Dad, Happy Father's Day. I love you
- 5:38Speaker 1: because you're always there for me.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Happy Father's Day, Dad, I love you.
- 5:43Speaker 5: Happy Father's Day. I love you. I think that you're
- 5:46Speaker 5: the best.
- 5:48Speaker 2: My Dad's a hero to me.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Up next, we're going to hear your reflections on being
- 5:55Speaker 3: a father.
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- 6:13Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time
- 6:16Speaker 3: poor parent who just wants answers now, and today we're
- 6:19Speaker 3: actually doing something a little bit different. We're celebrating you.
- 6:22Speaker 3: It's Father's Day and the kids have obviously shared their
- 6:25Speaker 3: thoughts and now I'm interested to hear what your thoughts are.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Well, let's dive into it. I've tried to do what
- 6:31Speaker 2: you did. I don't know if I'll do it nearly
- 6:33Speaker 2: as well, but I've put together some ideas, some thoughts
- 6:36Speaker 2: about what it is to be a father. A lot
- 6:39Speaker 2: of people talk about how becoming a father changed them.
- 6:42Speaker 2: They talk about that moment where they held their baby
- 6:45Speaker 2: for the first time and everything was different. It's the
- 6:50Speaker 2: moment time stands still. They go from being a lad
- 6:53Speaker 2: one of the boys to knowing that life will be
- 6:55Speaker 2: different from that point forward. It's the moment on which
- 6:58Speaker 2: their future is founded. Well, for me, it was nothing
- 7:03Speaker 2: of the sort. I mean. I was elated at the
- 7:04Speaker 2: birth of our little ray of Sunshine. I was deeply touched.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I was weeping for my wife, Kylie, as she labored
- 7:10Speaker 2: and gave her all to birth our baby. My love
- 7:14Speaker 2: and appreciation for her deep into a level that I
- 7:16Speaker 2: could never have believed and still can't describe. As I
- 7:20Speaker 2: helplessly watched on, offering a puny and pathetic BackRub between
- 7:24Speaker 2: contractions and feeling more in awe of the young woman
- 7:27Speaker 2: i'd married than I knew how to express. That was
- 7:30Speaker 2: the moment I knew I could never do enough to
- 7:32Speaker 2: show my love to my wife, the woman who would
- 7:34Speaker 2: go on to give birth to five more children and
- 7:37Speaker 2: grow our family into what it has become today. I
- 7:41Speaker 2: am in awe Kylie has my heart. But back to
- 7:45Speaker 2: the baby's birth, it goes without saying that I was
- 7:47Speaker 2: entirely caught up in savoring the softness of our baby's skin.
- 7:50Speaker 2: The newborn baby smelled that makes you want to inhale
- 7:53Speaker 2: the entire baby. The first smile, the way her hand
- 7:57Speaker 2: would grasp my little finger when I placed it into
- 7:59Speaker 2: a palm, and oh, that first smile.
- 8:04Speaker 6: I love.
- 8:04Speaker 2: The way we would play games on the floor. When
- 8:07Speaker 2: Shenel learned to crawl, I would watch as she crawled
- 8:09Speaker 2: away from me. As the distance increased, I would reach out,
- 8:12Speaker 2: grab her ankle gently tug until she flopped onto a
- 8:15Speaker 2: belly and then drag her back to my embrace, only
- 8:18Speaker 2: to repeat it again and again and again. Something was happening.
- 8:24Speaker 2: I was learning to love this little girl in new
- 8:27Speaker 2: and wonderful ways. It was exhilarating, but still I was me.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Nothing had changed. It was simply the next step in
- 8:34Speaker 2: my well planned life, career, marriage, children, Everything as expected.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I wasn't changing. Why should I. It wasn't until I
- 8:42Speaker 2: realized something was wrong with me that being a father
- 8:46Speaker 2: changed me. I've written about this, and I've spoken about
- 8:49Speaker 2: it many times before. My book Twenty one Days to
- 8:51Speaker 2: a Happier Family has the most open and honest account,
- 8:54Speaker 2: and I won't rehash it here. But by the time
- 8:56Speaker 2: that our eldest was around the age of three, I
- 8:59Speaker 2: realized something was wrong. I didn't know what to do
- 9:02Speaker 2: with a child who had her own mind, and I
- 9:05Speaker 2: made enough serious mistakes to recognize that I needed to change.
- 9:10Speaker 2: That's when fatherhood started to change me. It's been close
- 9:16Speaker 2: to twenty years since that day, and fatherhood has now
- 9:20Speaker 2: profoundly changed me. I say this a lot, and I'm
- 9:23Speaker 2: living testimony to it. Parenting isn't about the kids. The
- 9:27Speaker 2: product of parenting is the parent. I'm the product of
- 9:33Speaker 2: how we've raised these six girls. So I wanted to
- 9:38Speaker 2: share some reflections on fatherhood, stuff that I've learned about me,
- 9:41Speaker 2: about life, about kids that I may or may not
- 9:46Speaker 2: have figured out without those six precious angels that I
- 9:49Speaker 2: call my daughters. These are things that hit me as
- 9:53Speaker 2: a dad, but they're probably relevant to both parents. First,
- 9:59Speaker 2: it really does go too fast. I miss that toothless
- 10:07Speaker 2: newborn smile. I miss the newborn smell. I actually miss
- 10:12Speaker 2: watching mashed potato get caked through our kids' hair. I
- 10:15Speaker 2: missed the delighted squeals of Daddy Daddy as I walk
- 10:18Speaker 2: in the door at night after a long day in
- 10:19Speaker 2: the office. I miss those midnight visits when a bad
- 10:23Speaker 2: dream got too scary and my hug was what they needed.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I miss holding their hands as they enter school for
- 10:31Speaker 2: the first time. I miss shoulder and horsey rides. Now
- 10:33Speaker 2: that Emily's nearly eight, my back's nearly forty years older
- 10:35Speaker 2: than that. With four kids and their teens and beyond,
- 10:39Speaker 2: I wonder how it all went by so fast, And
- 10:42Speaker 2: I wish I could live those years again, have those
- 10:45Speaker 2: moments again. The second learning, you will feel that you
- 10:50Speaker 2: can never be enough. Now this has two meanings. The
- 10:54Speaker 2: first one is this, kids end up in tough situations,
- 10:57Speaker 2: and as the parent, there is an expectation that you're
- 11:00Speaker 2: to help them figure it out. But if you have
- 11:02Speaker 2: a child who's being bullied, or maybe who's just struggling
- 11:05Speaker 2: with friends, you realize pretty soon that you can't do
- 11:09Speaker 2: much about it. If you have a child with a
- 11:11Speaker 2: diagnosis or additional needs, or some kind of illness, like
- 11:14Speaker 2: my friend whose son was diagnosed with brain cancer at
- 11:17Speaker 2: age nine, you realize pretty fast that you can't do
- 11:20Speaker 2: much about that stuff either. In fact, as a parent,
- 11:25Speaker 2: you're often pretty impotent. You can't do much about the
- 11:27Speaker 2: stuff that's the heaviest, and you won't feel like you
- 11:31Speaker 2: can ever do enough. And yet they don't need you
- 11:35Speaker 2: to do anything most of the time except be there.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Listen love. The second way of looking at this idea
- 11:41Speaker 2: of never feeling that you can be enough. Once you
- 11:44Speaker 2: realize that you're not getting it right the discipline and
- 11:46Speaker 2: the child wearing thing, you discover that it's not about
- 11:49Speaker 2: the kids, it's about you, and you begin a process
- 11:53Speaker 2: of self improvement that feels impossible. I replay my mistakes,
- 11:58Speaker 2: my angry outbursts, my impatience over and over and over again,
- 12:02Speaker 2: and I wish I could be better. I make those mistakes,
- 12:05Speaker 2: and I don't feel that I can be enough that
- 12:07Speaker 2: I can be worthy of my kids. The third lesson
- 12:12Speaker 2: showing up is the main game in parenting. I'm amazed
- 12:15Speaker 2: at how critical that one thing is. Just being there,
- 12:19Speaker 2: showing up, loving those kids and being in their lives.
- 12:22Speaker 2: It's like that is it. Fourth, as a parent, you
- 12:28Speaker 2: have to be a hope builder. Our job may be
- 12:31Speaker 2: more than anything else, is to help our children believe
- 12:33Speaker 2: that the future is worth living for and contributing to.
- 12:37Speaker 2: When they feel like it's too hard, that it's hopeless,
- 12:41Speaker 2: that's when we do our job best. Number five dancing
- 12:47Speaker 2: is joy. I've learned that even though I can't dance
- 12:50Speaker 2: to save myself, my kids don't know that. And as
- 12:53Speaker 2: we whiz and twirl around the kitchen to Stephen Curtis
- 12:56Speaker 2: Chapman's Cinderella or Bob Carlyle's Butterfly Kisses not a fuck
- 13:06Speaker 2: how to bed time, I see smiles on my girl's
- 13:10Speaker 2: faces that lead me with a feeling that's simply incomparable
- 13:15Speaker 2: to anything I can imagine.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Number six.
- 13:21Speaker 2: The trust they place in you is impossible to live
- 13:23Speaker 2: up to, but there's no choice and number seven, letting
- 13:28Speaker 2: go is harder than you can imagine. As I completed
- 13:35Speaker 2: a book about raising teenage girls called Misconnection, I wrote
- 13:40Speaker 2: the following, I'm far from a traditionalist, and theoretically I
- 13:44Speaker 2: struggle with the idea that a man should give his
- 13:46Speaker 2: daughter away in marriage. Nevertheless, in practice, my heart says
- 13:50Speaker 2: something different. As I put the finishing touches on this book,
- 13:54Speaker 2: my eldest daughter married her sweetheart in late May twenty nineteen.
- 13:59Speaker 2: I stood beside her, my arm intertwined with hers. With
- 14:04Speaker 2: the gently setting Queensland sun illuminating the quiet countryside, our
- 14:09Speaker 2: family walked her to where everyone stood almost at attention.
- 14:13Speaker 2: The family peeled off to their seats one at a time,
- 14:15Speaker 2: until it was just Kylie and me standing beside our
- 14:18Speaker 2: eldest daughter. Kylie hugged her, kissed her on the cheek,
- 14:23Speaker 2: and left me beside this girl who will have my
- 14:25Speaker 2: heart just like her sisters will forever. At the appointed moment,
- 14:31Speaker 2: Chanelle and I walked together slowly down the aisle. There
- 14:37Speaker 2: were other people there, I'm sure of it, but I
- 14:38Speaker 2: didn't notice anyone or anything. It was just my daughter
- 14:42Speaker 2: and me, arm in arm, taking slow, deliberate steps towards
- 14:48Speaker 2: a new and exhilarating future for her. As we walked,
- 14:54Speaker 2: I realized I didn't want the moment to end. I
- 14:57Speaker 2: wanted to walk slower. While she was never really mine.
- 15:02Speaker 2: For one far too short minute, the entire world consisted
- 15:06Speaker 2: of me and my little girl, my little ray of sunshine.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Of course, our relationship is not over. She'll always be
- 15:16Speaker 2: my biggest little girl, will continue to enjoy our Sunday
- 15:19Speaker 2: morning walks or our Sunday evening roasts. But my baby
- 15:22Speaker 2: is all grown up. She's not sleeping at my house anymore.
- 15:28Speaker 2: She's not going to come into my room at night
- 15:30Speaker 2: to wrestle, ask for an extra hug, or tell me
- 15:32Speaker 2: about her latest exciting adventure. Kylie and I watch with
- 15:36Speaker 2: compassion and love as our daughter takes the connection we've
- 15:39Speaker 2: offered to her and begins the journey in you, connecting, loving,
- 15:44Speaker 2: and growing her own relationships with her husband and eventually
- 15:47Speaker 2: perhaps her own precious children. Raising them to let them
- 15:51Speaker 2: go is hard, but that's just how it should be.
- 15:58Speaker 2: And what I'm most grateful for is this. You never
- 16:02Speaker 2: stopped being a dad.
- 16:04Speaker 3: We hope you've enjoyed today's podcast, Happy Father's Day for Sunday.
- 16:08Speaker 3: We hope that you have an amazing day with your family,
- 16:11Speaker 3: but we recognize that for some people, Father's Day can
- 16:13Speaker 3: be tough, and our hearts go out to you. The
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