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S6, Ep 141: Mastering Cold Weather Fly Fishing with Mac Brown · The Articulate Fly

• 0:04
  Hey,
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  folks,
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  it's
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  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  And
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  we're
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  casting
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  angles
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  with
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  Mac
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  Brown.
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  Mac,
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  how
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  are
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  you?
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  I'm
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  doing
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  great.
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  How
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  you
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  doing,
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  Marvin?
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  As
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  always,
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  I'm
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
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  trouble.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  we
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  were
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  talking
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  before
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  we
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  started
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  recording,
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  you
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  know,
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  we
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  had
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  a.
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  We've
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  had
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  a
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  pretty
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  good
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  cold
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  snap
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  in
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  the
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  southeast
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  and
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  it's
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  warmed
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  up
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  a
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  little
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  bit,
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  but
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  get
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  another
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  cold
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  snap
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  around
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  Thanksgiving.
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  And
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  we
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  thought
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  it'd
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  be
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  good
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  people
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  about,
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  you
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  know,
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  kind
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  of
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  that
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  shift
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  from
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  late
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  fall
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  into
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  early
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  winter
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  fishing
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  and
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  what
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  that
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  means.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
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  the
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  collision
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  of
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  fall
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  into
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  early
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  winter
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  always
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  is
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  a.
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  Is
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  a
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  fun
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  time.
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  I
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  mean,
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  we
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  still
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  got
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  some
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  few
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  trees
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  left
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  with
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  some
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  leaves.
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  Most
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  of
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  them
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  have
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  fallen
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  off.
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  But
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  a
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  lot
• 0:45
  of
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  things
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  will
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  start
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  changing
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  when
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  it.
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  With
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  these
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  cold
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  snaps
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  that
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  are
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  coming
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  up.
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  I
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  mean,
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  we
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  had
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  a
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  little
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  snow
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  here
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  last
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  week,
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  which
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  was
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  nice.
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  Yeah.
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  Turned
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  all
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  the
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  mountains,
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  you
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  know,
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  everything
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  laid
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  big
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  up
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  over
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  3,000ft.
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  We
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  had
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  maybe
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  an
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  inch
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  or
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  so
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  here
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  at
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  the
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  house.
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  But
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  yeah,
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  I
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  kind
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  of,
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  I'm
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  kind
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  of
• 1:02
  ready
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  to
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  see
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  some
• 1:03
  cold
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  changes
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  and
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  what
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  that
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  brings
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  with
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  the
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  different
• 1:07
  hatches
• 1:07
  and
• 1:09
  strategies
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  when
• 1:10
  people
• 1:10
  go
• 1:10
  out.
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  You
• 1:10
  know,
• 1:10
  it
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  makes
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  it
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  kind
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  of
• 1:11
  fun
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  once
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  it
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  turns
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  colder
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  like
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  that.
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  Yeah.
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  And
• 1:15
  so
• 1:15
  you
• 1:15
  know
• 1:15
  what
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  we'll
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  start
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  to
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  see.
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  Right.
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  As
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  it
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  gets
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  colder,
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  you
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  know,
• 1:18
  trout
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  are
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  going
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  to
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  move
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  into
• 1:19
  slower
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  water
• 1:20
  as
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  it
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  gets
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  really
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  cold.
• 1:21
  They're
• 1:21
  going
• 1:21
  to
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  move
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  into
• 1:22
  deeper
• 1:23
  pools.
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  And
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  then
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  if
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  it's,
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  you
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  know,
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  super
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  cold,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  springs
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  that
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  they
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  were
• 1:27
  in
• 1:27
  in
• 1:27
  the
• 1:27
  summertime
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  is
• 1:28
  going
• 1:28
  to
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  be
• 1:28
  the
• 1:28
  warmest
• 1:29
  water
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  in
• 1:29
  the
• 1:30
  wintertime.
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  And
• 1:30
  they're
• 1:30
  going
• 1:30
  to
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  be
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  there
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  too,
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  right?
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  Mm,
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  yeah.
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  And
• 1:34
  the
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  fun
• 1:35
  part
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  is
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  just
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  all
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  the
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  little
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  tiny.
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  I
• 1:38
  like
• 1:39
  to
• 1:39
  midge
• 1:39
  fish
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  a
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  lot.
• 1:40
  I
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  mean,
• 1:40
  it's
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  really
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  favorite
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  methods
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  of
• 1:43
  winter
• 1:43
  fishing
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  is
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  to
• 1:44
  dry
• 1:45
  fly
• 1:45
  midges
• 1:45
  in
• 1:45
  the
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  winter.
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  You
• 1:46
  know,
• 1:46
  a
• 1:47
  lot
• 1:47
  of
• 1:47
  good
• 1:47
  places
• 1:47
  to
• 1:47
  do
• 1:48
  that
• 1:49
  in
• 1:49
  this
• 1:49
  part
• 1:49
  of
• 1:49
  the
• 1:49
  country.
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  I
• 1:50
  remember
• 1:50
  a
• 1:50
  lot
• 1:50
  of
• 1:50
  good
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  times
• 1:51
  up
• 1:51
  on
• 1:51
  the
• 1:51
  Davidson
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  this
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  time
• 1:52
  of
• 1:52
  year
• 1:52
  when
• 1:52
  it
• 1:53
  was
• 1:53
  really
• 1:53
  cold.
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  And
• 1:55
  it's
• 1:55
  just
• 1:56
  a
• 1:56
  lot
• 1:56
  of
• 1:56
  fun
• 1:56
  to
• 1:56
  sit
• 1:56
  there
• 1:57
  and
• 1:57
  sight
• 1:57
  fish.
• 1:58
  You
• 1:58
  know,
• 1:58
  you
• 1:58
  got
• 1:58
  10
• 1:59
  or
• 1:59
  15
• 1:59
  fish
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  that
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  are
• 2:00
  working
• 2:00
  up
• 2:00
  on
• 2:00
  the
• 2:01
  top
• 2:01
  and
• 2:01
  you
• 2:01
  can
• 2:01
  sit
• 2:01
  and
• 2:01
  pick
• 2:02
  out
• 2:02
  and
• 2:02
  mark
• 2:02
  which
• 2:02
  one
• 2:03
  you
• 2:03
  want.
• 2:04
  And
• 2:04
  it's
• 2:05
  just
• 2:05
  a
• 2:05
  different
• 2:05
  kind
• 2:06
  of
• 2:06
  thing,
• 2:07
  doing
• 2:07
  the
• 2:07
  little
• 2:07
  midge
• 2:08
  game
• 2:08
  in
• 2:08
  the
• 2:08
  winter
• 2:09
  and
• 2:09
  picking
• 2:10
  on
• 2:10
  those
• 2:10
  slower
• 2:10
  moving
• 2:11
  pulls.
• 2:12
  And
• 2:13
  it
• 2:13
  can
• 2:13
  be,
• 2:13
  it
• 2:13
  can
• 2:13
  be
• 2:14
  a
• 2:14
  lot
• 2:14
  of
• 2:14
  a
• 2:14
  Lot
• 2:14
  of
• 2:14
  challenges,
• 2:15
  you
• 2:15
  know,
• 2:15
  flowing
• 2:16
  something
• 2:16
  that
• 2:16
  tiny.
• 2:17
  It's
• 2:18
  just
• 2:18
  being
• 2:18
  able
• 2:18
  to
• 2:19
  see
• 2:19
  it
• 2:19
  at
• 2:19
  40,
• 2:20
  50ft.
• 2:20
  I
• 2:20
  mean,
• 2:20
  there's
• 2:20
  a
• 2:20
  lot
• 2:20
  of
• 2:21
  tricks
• 2:21
  to
• 2:21
  do
• 2:22
  with
• 2:22
  that
• 2:22
  and
• 2:23
  sometimes
• 2:24
  putting
• 2:24
  a
• 2:24
  little,
• 2:25
  a
• 2:25
  little
• 2:25
  bit
• 2:25
  bigger
• 2:26
  flying
• 2:26
  and
• 2:26
  having
• 2:27
  your
• 2:27
  couple
• 2:27
  of
• 2:27
  midges
• 2:28
  off
• 2:28
  the
• 2:28
  back
• 2:28
  of
• 2:28
  that
• 2:28
  or
• 2:29
  sometimes
• 2:29
  I
• 2:29
  run
• 2:29
  them
• 2:30
  up
• 2:30
  on
• 2:30
  the,
• 2:30
  on
• 2:31
  the
• 2:31
  droppers.
• 2:32
  So,
• 2:32
  you
• 2:33
  know,
• 2:33
  usually
• 2:33
  people
• 2:33
  think
• 2:33
  always
• 2:34
  of
• 2:34
  having
• 2:34
  an
• 2:34
  indicator
• 2:35
  fly
• 2:35
  and
• 2:35
  then
• 2:35
  putting
• 2:36
  everything
• 2:36
  off
• 2:36
  on
• 2:36
  the
• 2:37
  point
• 2:38
  of
• 2:38
  the
• 2:39
  smaller
• 2:39
  stuff.
• 2:39
  But
• 2:39
  there's
• 2:40
  a
• 2:40
  lot
• 2:40
  of
• 2:40
  ways
• 2:40
  to
• 2:40
  switch
• 2:41
  that
• 2:41
  around
• 2:41
  and
• 2:41
  put
• 2:42
  your
• 2:42
  indicator
• 2:42
  fly
• 2:43
  at
• 2:43
  the
• 2:43
  end
• 2:44
  and
• 2:44
  have,
• 2:45
  have
• 2:45
  your
• 2:45
  droppers,
• 2:45
  you
• 2:45
  know,
• 2:46
  carry
• 2:46
  your
• 2:46
  measures.
• 2:46
  And
• 2:47
  a
• 2:47
  lot
• 2:47
  of
• 2:47
  times
• 2:47
  we
• 2:47
  run
• 2:47
  three
• 2:48
  or
• 2:48
  four
• 2:48
  majors
• 2:49
  to
• 2:49
  blanket
• 2:49
  more
• 2:50
  water
• 2:50
  as
• 2:50
  we're
• 2:50
  gridding
• 2:51
  off.
• 2:52
  So
• 2:52
  there's
• 2:52
  a
• 2:52
  lot
• 2:52
  of
• 2:52
  fun
• 2:53
  tactics
• 2:53
  to
• 2:53
  do
• 2:54
  like
• 2:54
  that
• 2:54
  with
• 2:54
  midge
• 2:54
  hatches.
• 2:56
  And
• 2:56
  got
• 2:56
  to
• 2:57
  be
• 2:57
  ready
• 2:57
  for
• 2:57
  blue
• 2:57
  winged
• 2:57
  olives
• 2:58
  too,
• 2:58
  right?
• 3:01
  Yeah,
• 3:01
  we
• 3:01
  should
• 3:01
  get
• 3:01
  some
• 3:01
  good
• 3:02
  olive
• 3:02
  hatches.
• 3:04
  Yeah.
• 3:04
  The
• 3:04
  big
• 3:04
  thing,
• 3:04
  just
• 3:05
  keep
• 3:05
  paying
• 3:05
  attention
• 3:06
  to
• 3:06
  the
• 3:06
  weather.
• 3:06
  Like
• 3:06
  a
• 3:06
  lot
• 3:06
  of
• 3:07
  times
• 3:07
  people
• 3:07
  can't
• 3:07
  choose.
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  mean,
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  can
• 3:08
  choose
• 3:08
  because
• 3:09
  I
• 3:09
  live
• 3:09
  right
• 3:09
  on
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  creek.
• 3:10
  But
• 3:11
  if
• 3:11
  they
• 3:11
  can't
• 3:12
  choose,
• 3:12
  it's
• 3:12
  easy
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  predict.
• 3:13
  But
• 3:13
  if
• 3:13
  you
• 3:14
  want
• 3:14
  to
• 3:14
  have
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  best
• 3:14
  activity
• 3:15
  of
• 3:15
  the,
• 3:16
  of
• 3:16
  the
• 3:16
  week,
• 3:17
  you
• 3:17
  know,
• 3:17
  for
• 3:17
  the
• 3:17
  week's
• 3:17
  offering
• 3:19
  is
• 3:19
  if
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  have
• 3:19
  cold,
• 3:20
  cold,
• 3:20
  cold,
• 3:20
  and
• 3:20
  all
• 3:21
  of
• 3:21
  a
• 3:21
  sudden
• 3:21
  there's
• 3:21
  a
• 3:21
  bump
• 3:22
  up
• 3:22
  in
• 3:23
  temperature,
• 3:23
  it
• 3:23
  only
• 3:24
  takes
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  couple
• 3:24
  of
• 3:24
  degrees
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  temperature
• 3:27
  change.
• 3:27
  You
• 3:27
  know,
• 3:27
  that's
• 3:28
  going
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  make
• 3:28
  it
• 3:28
  active.
• 3:29
  And
• 3:29
  it's
• 3:29
  like
• 3:29
  the
• 3:29
  fish
• 3:29
  will
• 3:30
  get
• 3:30
  active
• 3:30
  and
• 3:30
  respond
• 3:31
  because
• 3:32
  you
• 3:32
  just
• 3:32
  figure
• 3:32
  if
• 3:33
  it's
• 3:33
  been
• 3:33
  really
• 3:33
  cold,
• 3:33
  the
• 3:34
  water
• 3:34
  temp
• 3:34
  when
• 3:35
  it
• 3:35
  gets
• 3:35
  really
• 3:35
  low,
• 3:37
  they're
• 3:37
  going
• 3:37
  to
• 3:38
  be
• 3:38
  fairly
• 3:38
  lethargic.
• 3:40
  They're
• 3:40
  not
• 3:40
  going
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  eat
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  lot
• 3:41
  during
• 3:42
  that
• 3:42
  kind
• 3:42
  of
• 3:42
  time
• 3:42
  period.
• 3:43
  But
• 3:44
  that
• 3:44
  first
• 3:44
  warmer,
• 3:45
  little
• 3:45
  warmer
• 3:45
  day,
• 3:46
  you'll
• 3:46
  feel
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  in
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  air
• 3:47
  temperature
• 3:47
  way
• 3:47
  more
• 3:47
  than
• 3:48
  they
• 3:48
  feel
• 3:48
  it
• 3:48
  in
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  water.
• 3:48
  But
• 3:49
  all
• 3:49
  it
• 3:49
  takes
• 3:50
  in
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  water
• 3:50
  is
• 3:50
  a
• 3:50
  couple
• 3:51
  of
• 3:51
  degrees
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  bump
• 3:53
  up
• 3:53
  warmer.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  might
• 3:54
  be
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  thing
• 3:54
  that
• 3:54
  activates
• 3:55
  it
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  where
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  get
• 3:55
  an
• 3:56
  actually
• 3:56
  really
• 3:56
  good
• 3:56
  blue
• 3:57
  wing
• 3:57
  hatch.
• 3:59
  Yeah,
• 3:59
  and
• 3:59
  that's
• 3:59
  another
• 4:00
  good
• 4:00
  trick
• 4:00
  too,
• 4:01
  you
• 4:01
  know,
• 4:01
  in
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  wintertime
• 4:01
  is
• 4:02
  to
• 4:02
  go
• 4:02
  find
• 4:02
  those
• 4:02
  sunny
• 4:03
  spots
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  those
• 4:04
  rocks
• 4:04
  where
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  sun,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:06
  hits
• 4:06
  them
• 4:06
  for
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  prolonged
• 4:07
  period
• 4:07
  of
• 4:07
  time
• 4:07
  because
• 4:07
  the
• 4:07
  water
• 4:08
  is
• 4:08
  going
• 4:08
  to
• 4:08
  be
• 4:08
  just
• 4:08
  a
• 4:08
  little
• 4:09
  bit
• 4:09
  warmer
• 4:09
  around
• 4:09
  those.
• 4:11
  Mm.
• 4:12
  Yeah.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:14
  that's,
• 4:14
  that's
• 4:14
  what
• 4:14
  you'll
• 4:15
  find
• 4:15
  a
• 4:15
  lot
• 4:15
  is
• 4:17
  they'll
• 4:17
  favor
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  in
• 4:19
  rivers
• 4:19
  that
• 4:19
  have
• 4:19
  gorges
• 4:20
  where
• 4:20
  it's
• 4:20
  mostly,
• 4:21
  you
• 4:22
  know,
• 4:22
  hid
• 4:22
  like
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  land
• 4:23
  of
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  noonday
• 4:24
  sun.
• 4:24
  For
• 4:25
  nantahala
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  there's
• 4:25
  a
• 4:26
  lot
• 4:26
  of
• 4:26
  different
• 4:26
  places
• 4:27
  up
• 4:27
  here
• 4:27
  where
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  don't
• 4:28
  think
• 4:28
  a
• 4:29
  lot
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  people
• 4:29
  realize
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  live
• 4:30
  in
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  Midwest.
• 4:31
  But
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  mountain
• 4:32
  regions
• 4:33
  there
• 4:33
  really
• 4:33
  is
• 4:34
  a
• 4:34
  lot
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  places
• 4:34
  that
• 4:35
  they
• 4:35
  call
• 4:35
  hollows
• 4:35
  in
• 4:35
  this
• 4:36
  part
• 4:36
  of
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  country
• 4:37
  or
• 4:38
  little
• 4:38
  valleys
• 4:38
  along
• 4:38
  the
• 4:39
  river
• 4:40
  that
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  sun
• 4:40
  might
• 4:41
  only
• 4:41
  hit
• 4:41
  in
• 4:41
  there
• 4:42
  an
• 4:42
  hour
• 4:42
  and
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  whole
• 4:43
  day,
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  whole
• 4:43
  day
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  sunlight.
• 4:44
  You
• 4:44
  only
• 4:45
  get
• 4:45
  one
• 4:45
  hour
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  sunlight.
• 4:46
  Then
• 4:47
  there's
• 4:47
  other
• 4:47
  spots
• 4:47
  on
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  river
• 4:48
  where
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  might
• 4:48
  get
• 4:49
  four
• 4:49
  hours
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  sunlight.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:50
  what
• 4:51
  tends
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  happen
• 4:52
  is
• 4:52
  fish
• 4:53
  will
• 4:53
  migrate
• 4:53
  to
• 4:54
  those
• 4:54
  spots
• 4:54
  that
• 4:54
  continually
• 4:55
  stay
• 4:55
  warmer
• 4:56
  when
• 4:57
  it's
• 4:57
  really
• 4:58
  cold.
• 4:59
  And
• 4:59
  in
• 4:59
  Nantahala
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  always
• 5:00
  happens.
• 5:01
  There
• 5:01
  are
• 5:01
  certain
• 5:02
  sections
• 5:02
  where
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  get
• 5:03
  a
• 5:03
  lot
• 5:04
  greater
• 5:04
  sunlight
• 5:04
  and
• 5:05
  you'll
• 5:05
  have
• 5:05
  just
• 5:06
  lots
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  lots
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  numbers
• 5:08
  in
• 5:08
  that
• 5:08
  one
• 5:09
  area,
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  know
• 5:10
  what
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  mean?
• 5:11
  Then
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  go
• 5:11
  up
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  spots
• 5:12
  where
• 5:12
  they
• 5:12
  migrated
• 5:13
  from
• 5:13
  and
• 5:13
  they're
• 5:13
  almost
• 5:13
  barren
• 5:14
  ash,
• 5:14
  you
• 5:14
  know.
• 5:16
  So
• 5:16
  that's
• 5:16
  always
• 5:17
  kind
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  interesting
• 5:17
  how
• 5:18
  they
• 5:18
  move.
• 5:18
  They're
• 5:18
  going
• 5:18
  to
• 5:19
  move
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  find
• 5:19
  where
• 5:20
  it's
• 5:20
  most
• 5:20
  conducive
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  eat
• 5:21
  and
• 5:21
  have
• 5:21
  metabolic
• 5:22
  rate
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  digest
• 5:24
  that,
• 5:25
  you
• 5:25
  know,
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  meal.
• 5:27
  And
• 5:27
  that's
• 5:27
  kind
• 5:27
  of
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  fun
• 5:28
  part
• 5:28
  about
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  puzzle.
• 5:30
  Yeah.
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  think
• 5:30
  it's
• 5:31
  interesting
• 5:31
  too.
• 5:31
  You
• 5:31
  know,
• 5:31
  folks,
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  gotta
• 5:32
  remember
• 5:33
  that,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  know,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:34
  know,
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:34
  a
• 5:34
  little
• 5:34
  bit
• 5:35
  different
• 5:35
  on
• 5:35
  a
• 5:35
  tailwater,
• 5:35
  but
• 5:36
  if
• 5:36
  you're
• 5:36
  on
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  freestones
• 5:37
  kind
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  in
• 5:37
  our
• 5:37
  part
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  the
• 5:38
  world,
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  know,
• 5:39
  this
• 5:39
  is,
• 5:39
  this
• 5:39
  will
• 5:39
  be
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  time
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  year
• 5:40
  where
• 5:40
  there's
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  least
• 5:41
  amount
• 5:41
  of
• 5:41
  food
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  the
• 5:42
  water.
• 5:42
  Right.
• 5:42
  So
• 5:43
  you're
• 5:43
  not
• 5:43
  going
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  see,
• 5:44
  you
• 5:44
  know,
• 5:44
  big
• 5:44
  sculpin
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  things
• 5:45
  like
• 5:45
  that.
• 5:46
  And
• 5:46
  so,
• 5:46
  you
• 5:47
  know,
• 5:47
  if
• 5:47
  you're
• 5:47
  nymphing,
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  know,
• 5:48
  one
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  my
• 5:48
  tricks
• 5:49
  in
• 5:49
  this
• 5:49
  part
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  world
• 5:49
  is
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  fish
• 5:50
  stone
• 5:50
  flies
• 5:52
  just
• 5:52
  because
• 5:52
  that's
• 5:53
  a
• 5:53
  multi
• 5:53
  year
• 5:53
  nymph
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  it's
• 5:54
  relatively
• 5:55
  big
• 5:55
  and
• 5:55
  it's,
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  know,
• 5:56
  makes
• 5:56
  it
• 5:57
  worthwhile
• 5:57
  for
• 5:57
  some
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  these
• 5:58
  guys
• 5:58
  to
• 5:58
  kind
• 5:58
  of
• 5:59
  move
• 5:59
  and,
• 5:59
  and
• 6:00
  grab
• 6:00
  one
• 6:00
  of
• 6:00
  those.
• 6:03
  Lots
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  calories.
• 6:04
  Yeah.
• 6:05
  And
• 6:05
  you
• 6:06
  know,
• 6:06
  also
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  know
• 6:06
  that,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  fish
• 6:07
  are
• 6:08
  cold
• 6:08
  blooded
• 6:08
  and
• 6:08
  they're
• 6:08
  not
• 6:08
  going
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  move
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  lot.
• 6:09
  So
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  need
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  be
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  lot
• 6:10
  more
• 6:10
  patient.
• 6:11
  You
• 6:12
  know,
• 6:12
  you
• 6:13
  may
• 6:13
  have
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  fish
• 6:13
  over
• 6:14
  them
• 6:14
  multiple
• 6:14
  times.
• 6:14
  You're
• 6:14
  really
• 6:15
  almost
• 6:15
  going
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  have
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  bonk
• 6:16
  them
• 6:16
  on
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  nose
• 6:16
  most
• 6:16
  of
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  time
• 6:17
  with
• 6:18
  your
• 6:18
  flies
• 6:18
  to
• 6:18
  get
• 6:19
  them
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  eat.
• 6:20
  Mm,
• 6:21
  well,
• 6:22
  that's
• 6:22
  really
• 6:22
  good.
• 6:23
  Yeah,
• 6:23
  just
• 6:24
  to
• 6:24
  slow
• 6:24
  down,
• 6:24
  move
• 6:25
  at
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  slower,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  know,
• 6:26
  slower
• 6:26
  pace.
• 6:26
  Be
• 6:27
  thorough,
• 6:27
  but
• 6:27
  be
• 6:27
  slow
• 6:29
  and.
• 6:30
  Yeah,
• 6:30
  because
• 6:31
  you
• 6:31
  can
• 6:31
  stay
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  lot
• 6:31
  of
• 6:32
  times
• 6:32
  in
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  Winter,
• 6:32
  we'll
• 6:33
  go
• 6:33
  down
• 6:34
  on
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  creek
• 6:35
  below
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  house
• 6:35
  and
• 6:36
  we
• 6:36
  might
• 6:36
  fish
• 6:37
  just
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  same
• 6:37
  pool
• 6:37
  for
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  couple
• 6:38
  hours
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  leave,
• 6:39
  you
• 6:40
  know,
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  mean,
• 6:40
  for
• 6:41
  like
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  few
• 6:41
  hours
• 6:41
  to
• 6:42
  cover
• 6:42
  just
• 6:42
  that
• 6:42
  pool.
• 6:43
  So
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  makes
• 6:44
  it,
• 6:45
  makes
• 6:45
  it
• 6:46
  fun
• 6:46
  because
• 6:46
  there's.
• 6:46
  They're
• 6:47
  still
• 6:47
  in
• 6:47
  there.
• 6:47
  The
• 6:47
  numbers
• 6:48
  are
• 6:48
  there.
• 6:48
  It's
• 6:48
  just
• 6:48
  about
• 6:49
  repetition
• 6:49
  that's
• 6:50
  going
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  take
• 6:50
  them.
• 6:51
  Yeah.
• 6:51
  And
• 6:51
  if
• 6:51
  you're
• 6:51
  not
• 6:51
  a
• 6:52
  morning
• 6:52
  person,
• 6:52
  this
• 6:52
  is
• 6:52
  your
• 6:53
  time
• 6:53
  of
• 6:53
  year
• 6:53
  because
• 6:53
  there's
• 6:54
  no
• 6:54
  reason
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  be
• 6:54
  on
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  water
• 6:55
  at
• 6:55
  6
• 6:55
  o'clock
• 6:55
  in
• 6:55
  the
• 6:56
  morning
• 6:57
  because
• 6:57
  you're,
• 6:57
  you
• 6:57
  know,
• 6:58
  your
• 6:58
  bite
• 6:58
  window
• 6:58
  is
• 6:58
  going
• 6:58
  to
• 6:59
  probably
• 6:59
  be
• 6:59
  from,
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  don't
• 7:00
  know,
• 7:00
  best
• 7:01
  bite
• 7:01
  windows,
• 7:01
  probably
• 7:01
  from
• 7:01
  about
• 7:02
  11
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  3.
• 7:03
  Right.
• 7:04
  So
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  can,
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  can
• 7:05
  sleep
• 7:05
  in,
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  know,
• 7:06
  go
• 7:06
  to
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  Cracker
• 7:07
  Barrel,
• 7:07
  eat
• 7:07
  a
• 7:08
  big
• 7:08
  breakfast
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  then
• 7:09
  get
• 7:09
  on
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  water
• 7:10
  and,
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:11
  be
• 7:11
  home
• 7:11
  to,
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  watch
• 7:12
  a
• 7:13
  little.
• 7:13
  Watch
• 7:13
  a
• 7:14
  Super
• 7:14
  bowl
• 7:14
  or
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  little
• 7:14
  college
• 7:15
  basketball
• 7:15
  or
• 7:15
  something
• 7:15
  like
• 7:16
  that.
• 7:17
  That's
• 7:18
  right.
• 7:18
  No,
• 7:18
  that's,
• 7:18
  that's
• 7:19
  good
• 7:19
  advice,
• 7:19
  Ed.
• 7:19
  The
• 7:19
  most
• 7:20
  comfortable
• 7:20
  time
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  day,
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  know,
• 7:22
  for
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  be
• 7:23
  out.
• 7:23
  It's
• 7:23
  usually
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  best
• 7:24
  time
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  day
• 7:24
  activity
• 7:26
  in
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  winter
• 7:27
  months.
• 7:27
  So,
• 7:27
  yeah,
• 7:28
  that,
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  transition's
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  lot
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  fun.
• 7:29
  Just
• 7:29
  seeing
• 7:30
  the
• 7:30
  seasons
• 7:30
  change
• 7:31
  and
• 7:31
  go
• 7:31
  through
• 7:31
  the,
• 7:32
  go
• 7:33
  through
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  winter
• 7:33
  months
• 7:33
  and
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  course,
• 7:34
  springtime.
• 7:35
  And
• 7:36
  just
• 7:36
  watching
• 7:36
  all
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  seasons
• 7:37
  is
• 7:38
  actually
• 7:39
  pretty
• 7:40
  rewarding
• 7:40
  just
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  see
• 7:41
  how
• 7:42
  much
• 7:42
  different
• 7:42
  it
• 7:42
  fishes
• 7:43
  each
• 7:43
  season,
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  know.
• 7:44
  Yeah,
• 7:45
  absolutely.
• 7:45
  You
• 7:45
  know,
• 7:45
  it's
• 7:46
  interesting
• 7:46
  too
• 7:46
  because,
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  know,
• 7:47
  I
• 7:47
  think
• 7:48
  one
• 7:48
  of
• 7:48
  the
• 7:49
  things
• 7:49
  that
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  kind
• 7:49
  of
• 7:50
  really
• 7:50
  had
• 7:50
  this
• 7:50
  reinforced
• 7:51
  during
• 7:51
  COVID
• 7:51
  is,
• 7:52
  you
• 7:52
  know,
• 7:52
  if
• 7:52
  you'll
• 7:52
  fish
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  same
• 7:53
  water
• 7:54
  throughout
• 7:55
  all
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  seasons,
• 7:55
  it'll
• 7:56
  really
• 7:56
  help
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  up
• 7:57
  your
• 7:57
  game
• 7:57
  on
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  water.
• 8:00
  That's
• 8:00
  right.
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  agree
• 8:01
  with
• 8:01
  that.
• 8:02
  A
• 8:02
  lot
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  people
• 8:02
  say
• 8:03
  fish
• 8:03
  lots
• 8:03
  of
• 8:03
  water.
• 8:03
  I
• 8:04
  mean,
• 8:04
  I
• 8:04
  don't
• 8:04
  think
• 8:04
  that's
• 8:05
  till
• 8:05
  way
• 8:05
  later
• 8:05
  when
• 8:05
  people
• 8:06
  get
• 8:06
  really
• 8:06
  pretty
• 8:06
  advanced.
• 8:07
  But
• 8:08
  since
• 8:08
  most
• 8:08
  people
• 8:09
  don't
• 8:09
  get
• 8:09
  pretty
• 8:09
  advanced,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  mean,
• 8:11
  from
• 8:11
  your
• 8:11
  studies,
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  know,
• 8:11
  that
• 8:12
  you
• 8:12
  talk
• 8:12
  about
• 8:12
  with
• 8:13
  the.
• 8:13
  What
• 8:13
  was
• 8:13
  the
• 8:14
  study
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  fishing
• 8:14
  came
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  say
• 8:15
  two
• 8:15
  times
• 8:15
  a
• 8:16
  year.
• 8:16
  That's
• 8:16
  not
• 8:16
  very
• 8:17
  advanced,
• 8:17
  you
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:18
  so
• 8:18
  that's
• 8:18
  kind
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  like
• 8:19
  fishing
• 8:19
  blind
• 8:20
  if
• 8:20
  they're
• 8:20
  only
• 8:20
  going
• 8:20
  two
• 8:20
  days
• 8:21
  a
• 8:21
  year.
• 8:21
  So
• 8:21
  hopefully
• 8:21
  this,
• 8:22
  this
• 8:22
  talk,
• 8:23
  Marvin,
• 8:23
  gets
• 8:23
  people
• 8:23
  fired
• 8:24
  up
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  maybe
• 8:24
  go
• 8:25
  four
• 8:25
  or
• 8:25
  six
• 8:25
  times
• 8:25
  in
• 8:25
  a
• 8:26
  year.
• 8:27
  You
• 8:27
  know
• 8:27
  what
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  mean?
• 8:28
  Yeah,
• 8:29
  but
• 8:29
  it's
• 8:29
  an
• 8:29
  interesting
• 8:30
  thing.
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  mean,
• 8:30
  we
• 8:30
  were
• 8:30
  talking
• 8:30
  before
• 8:31
  we
• 8:31
  started
• 8:31
  recording.
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  mean,
• 8:32
  this
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  really.
• 8:33
  A
• 8:33
  lot
• 8:33
  of.
• 8:33
  This
• 8:34
  is
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  foundation
• 8:34
  of
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  talk
• 8:35
  that
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  do
• 8:35
  at
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  fly
• 8:36
  fishing
• 8:36
  shows
• 8:36
  where
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  talk
• 8:37
  about,
• 8:38
  you
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:38
  you
• 8:38
  know,
• 8:39
  what's
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  food
• 8:39
  doing,
• 8:40
  what's
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  trout
• 8:40
  doing
• 8:40
  and
• 8:41
  what
• 8:41
  should
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  do?
• 8:41
  And
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  easiest
• 8:42
  way
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  learn
• 8:43
  that
• 8:44
  is
• 8:44
  to,
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  know,
• 8:45
  it's
• 8:45
  one
• 8:45
  thing
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  read
• 8:45
  it
• 8:45
  in
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  book,
• 8:46
  it's
• 8:46
  another
• 8:46
  thing
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  go
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  talk.
• 8:47
  But
• 8:47
  the
• 8:48
  really
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  way
• 8:48
  to
• 8:48
  learn
• 8:48
  it
• 8:49
  is
• 8:49
  to,
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  know,
• 8:50
  make
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  New
• 8:51
  year's
• 8:51
  resolution
• 8:51
  for
• 8:52
  2025,
• 8:53
  to
• 8:54
  fish
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  same
• 8:55
  pieces
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  water
• 8:56
  during
• 8:57
  different
• 8:57
  seasons
• 8:58
  throughout
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  year.
• 8:58
  And
• 8:58
  you'll
• 8:59
  see,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 9:00
  how
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  flows
• 9:00
  are
• 9:00
  different,
• 9:01
  how
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  bugs
• 9:01
  are
• 9:02
  different,
• 9:02
  where
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  fish
• 9:02
  are,
• 9:03
  because
• 9:03
  they're
• 9:03
  not
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  same
• 9:03
  place
• 9:04
  in
• 9:04
  July
• 9:05
  that
• 9:05
  there
• 9:06
  are
• 9:06
  in
• 9:06
  January.
• 9:08
  That's
• 9:08
  right.
• 9:09
  The
• 9:09
  good
• 9:09
  thing,
• 9:09
  let's
• 9:10
  take
• 9:10
  it,
• 9:10
  let's
• 9:10
  get
• 9:11
  greedy
• 9:11
  here
• 9:11
  and
• 9:11
  jump
• 9:12
  to
• 9:12
  eight
• 9:12
  days
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  year
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  way
• 9:14
  we
• 9:14
  get
• 9:15
  two
• 9:15
  days
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  each
• 9:16
  season.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:18
  that
• 9:18
  would
• 9:18
  be
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  good
• 9:18
  goal,
• 9:19
  you
• 9:19
  know,
• 9:19
  for
• 9:19
  people
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  really
• 9:20
  start
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  see
• 9:21
  how
• 9:21
  these
• 9:21
  seasons
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  transitions,
• 9:22
  what
• 9:23
  it
• 9:23
  means
• 9:23
  for
• 9:23
  them.
• 9:24
  And
• 9:24
  I
• 9:25
  think
• 9:25
  that
• 9:25
  would
• 9:25
  be
• 9:25
  a
• 9:26
  great
• 9:27
  learning,
• 9:28
  learning.
• 9:30
  It
• 9:30
  helped
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  learning
• 9:31
  curve
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  great
• 9:32
  deal,
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  know,
• 9:32
  just
• 9:33
  to
• 9:33
  see
• 9:33
  that
• 9:34
  through
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  year,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  know,
• 9:35
  because
• 9:36
  of
• 9:36
  course
• 9:37
  they
• 9:37
  all
• 9:38
  have,
• 9:38
  they
• 9:38
  all
• 9:38
  have
• 9:38
  their
• 9:39
  special
• 9:40
  attributes
• 9:41
  for
• 9:41
  those
• 9:41
  seasons,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  know.
• 9:43
  Yeah,
• 9:44
  I
• 9:45
  like
• 9:45
  that
• 9:45
  concept.
• 9:46
  Yeah.
• 9:46
  And
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  would
• 9:47
  say
• 9:47
  too,
• 9:47
  you
• 9:47
  know,
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  only
• 9:47
  other
• 9:48
  thing
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  would
• 9:48
  say
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  wintertime
• 9:49
  is,
• 9:49
  you
• 9:50
  know,
• 9:50
  probably
• 9:51
  worth
• 9:52
  taking,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:53
  an
• 9:53
  extra
• 9:53
  set
• 9:53
  of
• 9:54
  clothes
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  at
• 9:54
  least
• 9:55
  socks
• 9:55
  and
• 9:55
  leave
• 9:55
  them
• 9:55
  in
• 9:55
  the
• 9:56
  car
• 9:56
  because,
• 9:56
  you
• 9:56
  know,
• 9:57
  at
• 9:57
  some
• 9:57
  point
• 9:58
  if
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  do
• 9:58
  this
• 9:58
  enough,
• 9:58
  you're
• 9:59
  going
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  get
• 9:59
  wet
• 9:59
  and
• 10:00
  it's
• 10:00
  pretty
• 10:00
  miserable
• 10:00
  to
• 10:01
  be
• 10:01
  cold
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  wet.
• 10:02
  So,
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  know,
• 10:03
  be
• 10:03
  in
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  position
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  be
• 10:04
  able
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  get
• 10:04
  back
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  car
• 10:05
  and
• 10:05
  change
• 10:05
  your
• 10:06
  clothes.
• 10:06
  You
• 10:06
  know,
• 10:06
  it's
• 10:06
  interesting
• 10:07
  too,
• 10:07
  because
• 10:08
  Thanksgiving
• 10:09
  is
• 10:09
  as
• 10:09
  late
• 10:09
  as
• 10:09
  it'll
• 10:10
  ever
• 10:10
  be
• 10:11
  this
• 10:11
  year,
• 10:12
  which
• 10:12
  means
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  are,
• 10:13
  we
• 10:13
  have
• 10:13
  a
• 10:14
  really
• 10:14
  compressed
• 10:15
  holiday
• 10:15
  season,
• 10:16
  which
• 10:16
  explains
• 10:17
  why
• 10:17
  last
• 10:17
  weekend
• 10:17
  everybody
• 10:18
  was
• 10:18
  out
• 10:18
  Christmas
• 10:18
  shopping
• 10:19
  and
• 10:19
  putting
• 10:19
  up
• 10:19
  Christmas
• 10:20
  trees
• 10:20
  before
• 10:20
  Thanksgiving.
• 10:21
  But
• 10:21
  what
• 10:22
  that
• 10:22
  also
• 10:22
  means
• 10:22
  is,
• 10:23
  you
• 10:23
  know,
• 10:23
  we're
• 10:23
  going
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  come
• 10:24
  out
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  other
• 10:24
  side
• 10:24
  January
• 10:25
  1,
• 10:25
  2025,
• 10:26
  and
• 10:26
  you
• 10:27
  know,
• 10:27
  you,
• 10:27
  me
• 10:27
  and
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  lot
• 10:28
  of
• 10:28
  other
• 10:28
  folks
• 10:28
  going
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  be
• 10:29
  burning
• 10:29
  up
• 10:29
  the,
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  road
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  the,
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  airways
• 10:32
  going
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  fly
• 10:32
  fishing
• 10:33
  shows.
• 10:34
  Oh
• 10:35
  yeah,
• 10:35
  I'm
• 10:35
  looking
• 10:35
  forward
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  that.
• 10:36
  Yeah,
• 10:36
  I'm
• 10:37
  looking
• 10:37
  forward
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  first
• 10:39
  one
• 10:39
  up
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  Marlboro,
• 10:41
  Massachusetts
• 10:42
  and
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  class.
• 10:43
  Christopher
• 10:44
  Rounds
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  good
• 10:45
  friend
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  mine
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  lives
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  Switzerland
• 10:46
  and
• 10:47
  he's
• 10:47
  going
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  teach
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  all
• 10:48
  day
• 10:48
  class
• 10:48
  with
• 10:49
  me
• 10:49
  in
• 10:49
  Marlborough
• 10:50
  and
• 10:51
  that's
• 10:51
  going
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  be
• 10:51
  fun.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:52
  we
• 10:52
  have
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  bunch
• 10:52
  of
• 10:52
  other
• 10:53
  classes
• 10:53
  and
• 10:54
  things
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  do
• 10:55
  there,
• 10:55
  but
• 10:57
  it'll
• 10:57
  be
• 10:57
  a
• 10:57
  lot
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  fun
• 10:58
  just
• 10:58
  to
• 10:58
  Teach
• 10:59
  something
• 10:59
  all
• 10:59
  day
• 10:59
  long,
• 11:00
  like
• 11:00
  eight
• 11:00
  hours
• 11:01
  with
• 11:01
  him.
• 11:02
  Because
• 11:02
  I've
• 11:03
  never
• 11:03
  really
• 11:03
  taught
• 11:03
  eight
• 11:03
  hours
• 11:04
  with
• 11:04
  them.
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  mean,
• 11:04
  we've
• 11:04
  talked
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  taught
• 11:05
  little
• 11:05
  stuff
• 11:06
  here
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  there,
• 11:07
  but
• 11:07
  it's
• 11:07
  like
• 11:07
  to
• 11:08
  teach
• 11:08
  something
• 11:08
  that
• 11:08
  long,
• 11:08
  I'm
• 11:09
  sure
• 11:09
  it'll
• 11:09
  be
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  lot
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  fun
• 11:10
  for
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  group
• 11:11
  and
• 11:11
  I'm
• 11:12
  looking
• 11:12
  forward
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  all
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  shows.
• 11:14
  Yeah.
• 11:14
  And
• 11:15
  so
• 11:15
  you're
• 11:15
  going
• 11:15
  to
• 11:15
  do
• 11:16
  all
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  fly
• 11:16
  fishing
• 11:17
  shows
• 11:18
  with
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  Feremskis
• 11:19
  other
• 11:19
  than
• 11:19
  Lancaster,
• 11:20
  right?
• 11:22
  That's
• 11:23
  correct.
• 11:23
  And
• 11:23
  then
• 11:23
  the
• 11:24
  Midwest
• 11:26
  Fly
• 11:26
  Fishing
• 11:26
  Expo,
• 11:27
  Great
• 11:27
  Waters,
• 11:29
  what
• 11:29
  is
• 11:29
  it?
• 11:29
  Great
• 11:29
  Waters
• 11:30
  Fly
• 11:30
  Fishing
• 11:30
  Expo
• 11:31
  is
• 11:31
  what
• 11:31
  they
• 11:31
  call
• 11:31
  it
• 11:32
  up
• 11:33
  in
• 11:33
  Twin
• 11:33
  Cities.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:34
  that,
• 11:34
  that's
• 11:34
  going
• 11:34
  to
• 11:35
  be
• 11:35
  towards
• 11:35
  the
• 11:36
  third
• 11:36
  week
• 11:36
  of
• 11:36
  March,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  think.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:39
  that'll
• 11:39
  be,
• 11:39
  that'll
• 11:39
  be
• 11:39
  a
• 11:40
  fun
• 11:40
  show.
• 11:40
  Cause
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  like
• 11:40
  that
• 11:41
  part
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  world
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  lot.
• 11:43
  Yeah.
• 11:44
  And
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  know,
• 11:44
  also
• 11:45
  too,
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  great
• 11:45
  thing
• 11:45
  is,
• 11:46
  and
• 11:46
  we've
• 11:46
  mentioned
• 11:46
  this
• 11:47
  before,
• 11:47
  but
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  know,
• 11:47
  Ben
• 11:48
  has
• 11:48
  had
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  signups
• 11:48
  for
• 11:49
  those
• 11:49
  day
• 11:49
  long
• 11:49
  classes
• 11:50
  up
• 11:50
  on
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  fly
• 11:51
  fishing
• 11:51
  show
• 11:51
  website
• 11:52
  for
• 11:53
  probably
• 11:53
  four
• 11:53
  to
• 11:53
  six
• 11:54
  weeks
• 11:54
  at
• 11:54
  this
• 11:54
  point.
• 11:55
  And
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  know,
• 11:56
  so,
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  know,
• 11:57
  so
• 11:58
  you
• 11:58
  know,
• 11:58
  it's
• 11:59
  great
• 11:59
  if
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  want
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  buy
• 12:00
  yourself
• 12:00
  a
• 12:00
  Christmas
• 12:01
  present
• 12:02
  or
• 12:02
  if
• 12:02
  you've
• 12:02
  got
• 12:03
  someone
• 12:03
  who
• 12:03
  fly
• 12:03
  fishes
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  want
• 12:04
  to
• 12:04
  buy
• 12:04
  that
• 12:05
  class
• 12:05
  for
• 12:06
  them
• 12:06
  as
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  Christmas
• 12:06
  present,
• 12:07
  you
• 12:07
  know,
• 12:07
  you
• 12:07
  owe
• 12:07
  it
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  yourself
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  get
• 12:08
  out
• 12:08
  there
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  jump
• 12:09
  on
• 12:09
  those
• 12:09
  because
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  know,
• 12:10
  Mack,
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  know
• 12:11
  I'll
• 12:11
  say
• 12:11
  this
• 12:11
  because
• 12:11
  you
• 12:12
  won't
• 12:12
  say
• 12:12
  it.
• 12:12
  You
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:13
  those
• 12:13
  classes
• 12:13
  fill
• 12:13
  up,
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  know,
• 12:14
  whether
• 12:14
  it's
• 12:14
  you
• 12:15
  and
• 12:15
  Chris
• 12:15
  or
• 12:15
  whether
• 12:15
  it's
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  Gary.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:18
  you
• 12:18
  know,
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  me
• 12:18
  it's
• 12:19
  one
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  those
• 12:20
  great
• 12:20
  opportunities
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  really,
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  know,
• 12:22
  invest
• 12:23
  in
• 12:23
  yourself,
• 12:23
  get
• 12:24
  high
• 12:24
  quality
• 12:24
  instruction
• 12:25
  that's,
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  know,
• 12:25
  kind
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  at
• 12:26
  a,
• 12:26
  you
• 12:27
  know,
• 12:27
  it's
• 12:27
  kind
• 12:27
  of
• 12:27
  like
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  high
• 12:27
  potency
• 12:28
  vitamin.
• 12:28
  Right.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:29
  then
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  go
• 12:29
  apply
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  your
• 12:31
  fishing
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  following
• 12:32
  season.
• 12:36
  No,
• 12:36
  I
• 12:36
  appreciate
• 12:36
  it.
• 12:37
  Yeah.
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  mean,
• 12:37
  I,
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  think
• 12:39
  it's
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  best
• 12:39
  thing
• 12:39
  people
• 12:40
  could
• 12:40
  do
• 12:40
  is
• 12:40
  invest
• 12:40
  in
• 12:41
  themselves
• 12:41
  for,
• 12:42
  for
• 12:42
  like,
• 12:42
  if
• 12:42
  it's
• 12:42
  something
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  means
• 12:44
  something
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  them,
• 12:45
  if
• 12:45
  they
• 12:45
  want
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  get
• 12:46
  better
• 12:46
  at
• 12:46
  it.
• 12:46
  It's
• 12:47
  tough
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  get
• 12:47
  better
• 12:47
  at
• 12:48
  it
• 12:48
  on
• 12:49
  your
• 12:49
  own.
• 12:50
  You
• 12:51
  know
• 12:51
  what
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  mean?
• 12:51
  It
• 12:52
  really
• 12:52
  is
• 12:52
  from
• 12:52
  cast
• 12:53
  into
• 12:53
  all
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  stuff
• 12:54
  we
• 12:54
  talk
• 12:54
  about
• 12:54
  all
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  time.
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  mean,
• 12:55
  I've
• 12:55
  had
• 12:55
  so
• 12:55
  many
• 12:56
  good
• 12:57
  mentors
• 12:58
  in
• 12:58
  my
• 12:58
  life
• 12:58
  that
• 12:59
  there's
• 12:59
  no
• 13:00
  way
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  could
• 13:00
  be
• 13:01
  where
• 13:01
  we
• 13:02
  are
• 13:02
  today,
• 13:02
  talking
• 13:02
  without
• 13:03
  all
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  influence
• 13:03
  and
• 13:04
  things
• 13:04
  that
• 13:04
  I've
• 13:04
  been
• 13:04
  taught
• 13:05
  because
• 13:05
  people
• 13:05
  shared
• 13:05
  with
• 13:06
  me,
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  know.
• 13:06
  Yeah.
• 13:07
  And
• 13:07
  so,
• 13:07
  you
• 13:07
  know,
• 13:07
  I
• 13:08
  know
• 13:08
  if
• 13:08
  folks
• 13:09
  go
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  your
• 13:09
  website,
• 13:09
  you'll
• 13:10
  have
• 13:10
  all
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  class
• 13:11
  information.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:11
  then,
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  course,
• 13:12
  you
• 13:12
  know,
• 13:12
  when
• 13:12
  you
• 13:12
  come
• 13:12
  out
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  the
• 13:13
  class
• 13:13
  season,
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  know,
• 13:14
  spring
• 13:14
  means,
• 13:15
  you
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:16
  classes
• 13:16
  in
• 13:17
  Bryson
• 13:17
  City
• 13:17
  with
• 13:17
  Mac,
• 13:18
  whether
• 13:18
  it's
• 13:18
  casting
• 13:19
  schools
• 13:19
  or
• 13:19
  guide
• 13:19
  schools.
• 13:20
  Right?
• 13:22
  Yeah,
• 13:22
  Those
• 13:22
  will
• 13:22
  start
• 13:23
  back
• 13:23
  up,
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  think,
• 13:24
  March,
• 13:25
  when
• 13:25
  we
• 13:25
  get
• 13:26
  back
• 13:26
  from
• 13:26
  Pleasanton,
• 13:27
  that
• 13:27
  next
• 13:27
  weekend
• 13:27
  after
• 13:28
  Pleasanton
• 13:28
  is
• 13:28
  the
• 13:29
  first
• 13:29
  school
• 13:30
  for
• 13:30
  25
• 13:30
  here.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:32
  there's
• 13:32
  only
• 13:32
  a
• 13:32
  couple
• 13:32
  of
• 13:33
  spots,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  think,
• 13:33
  left
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  that
• 13:34
  one
• 13:34
  right
• 13:34
  now.
• 13:35
  So.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:36
  it's,
• 13:36
  it's.
• 13:36
  It's
• 13:37
  been.
• 13:37
  It's
• 13:38
  been
• 13:38
  good.
• 13:38
  This
• 13:38
  fall's
• 13:39
  been
• 13:39
  good.
• 13:39
  People
• 13:39
  are
• 13:39
  signing
• 13:40
  up,
• 13:40
  looking
• 13:40
  at
• 13:40
  doing
• 13:41
  that
• 13:41
  again.
• 13:41
  So
• 13:42
  I
• 13:43
  hope
• 13:43
  they
• 13:43
  all
• 13:43
  get
• 13:44
  filled
• 13:45
  up
• 13:45
  before
• 13:45
  Christmas
• 13:46
  time.
• 13:46
  Marvin.
• 13:46
  And
• 13:47
  we
• 13:47
  go
• 13:47
  into
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  winter
• 13:48
  knowing
• 13:48
  everything's
• 13:48
  ready.
• 13:49
  Yeah.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:50
  so,
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  know,
• 13:50
  folks,
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  would
• 13:51
  say
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  couple
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  things.
• 13:51
  You
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  first
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  all,
• 13:53
  western
• 13:53
  North
• 13:54
  Carolina
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  east
• 13:54
  Tennessee
• 13:55
  for,
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  know,
• 13:55
  the
• 13:56
  most
• 13:56
  part,
• 13:56
  open
• 13:57
  for
• 13:57
  business.
• 13:57
  So
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  best
• 13:58
  thing
• 13:58
  you
• 13:58
  can
• 13:58
  do
• 13:58
  to
• 13:58
  help
• 13:59
  these
• 13:59
  communities,
• 13:59
  you
• 14:00
  know,
• 14:00
  post
• 14:00
  Helene,
• 14:01
  is
• 14:01
  to
• 14:02
  visit
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  spend
• 14:03
  money.
• 14:03
  And
• 14:03
  if
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  can't
• 14:03
  visit
• 14:04
  and
• 14:04
  spend
• 14:04
  money,
• 14:04
  buy
• 14:05
  gift
• 14:05
  certificates
• 14:05
  and
• 14:06
  gift
• 14:06
  cards.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:08
  then,
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  know,
• 14:08
  the
• 14:09
  next
• 14:09
  thing
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  would
• 14:09
  say
• 14:09
  is,
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  know,
• 14:10
  in
• 14:10
  February,
• 14:11
  when
• 14:11
  it's
• 14:11
  cold
• 14:11
  and
• 14:12
  miserable,
• 14:12
  if
• 14:12
  you're
• 14:12
  not
• 14:12
  out
• 14:13
  fishing
• 14:13
  for
• 14:13
  muskie,
• 14:13
  you're
• 14:13
  going
• 14:14
  to
• 14:14
  wish
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  were
• 14:14
  on
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  water
• 14:15
  here
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  late
• 14:16
  November,
• 14:16
  early
• 14:17
  December.
• 14:17
  So
• 14:17
  you
• 14:17
  ought
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  get
• 14:18
  out
• 14:18
  there
• 14:18
  and
• 14:18
  catch
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  few.
• 14:18
  And
• 14:19
  then,
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  course,
• 14:19
  later
• 14:20
  this
• 14:20
  week
• 14:20
  is
• 14:20
  Thanksgiving,
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  want
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  wish
• 14:22
  everybody
• 14:22
  tight
• 14:23
  lines
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  happy
• 14:24
  Thanksgiving.
• 14:24
  Tight
• 14:25
  lines
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  Happy
• 14:25
  Thanksgiving,
• 14:26
  Matt.
• 14:27
  Yeah,
• 14:28
  Happy
• 14:28
  Thanksgiving
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  everybody
• 14:30
  listening.
• 14:30
  Marvin.
• 14:31
  Take
• 14:31
  care,
• 14:32
  everybody.