Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / SpaceX Elon Musk Mars Multiplanetary Speech from All Hands At Starbase April 6, 2024
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- 0:00So what I was what I'm going to go through to tonight is the
- 0:05overall overall sort of path to making life multiplanetary.
- 0:11So we're doing a lot of good things at space XI mean Starlink
- 0:16is incredible providing connectivity throughout the
- 0:18world and also you know paying for a lot of what we're doing
- 0:23here and Falcon 9 is the the primary lift launch vehicle for
- 0:29for earth just doing more non SpaceX launches than anything
- 0:33else And but Starship is what is well well Starship is Starship
- 0:41is the first design of a rocket that is actually capable of
- 0:45making life multi planetary where success is one of the
- 0:48possible outcomes no rocket before this has had the
- 0:53potential to extend life to another planet and and I'll I'll
- 1:03sort of wax esoteric here for a minute because this this may
- 1:08sound sort of unusual but when you think about the question of
- 1:15where are the aliens which I get asked a lot this is like the
- 1:22Fermi paradox where are the aliens And I've not seen any
- 1:27evidence that there are aliens on earth A lot of people think
- 1:31there are aliens on earth and I'm like great I'd like to meet
- 1:33one you know for a while there when I was getting my green card
- 1:38and everything it said alien registration card.
- 1:40I'm like, OK, but this this question of where the aliens, I
- 1:48think a very profound one, because I'm aware of no evidence
- 1:54of aliens whatsoever, which means that I think we're
- 1:58probably alone. And if you look at the history
- 2:05of Earth, like how long has Earth been around?
- 2:08If, assuming that physics is correct, the universe is about
- 2:1213.8 billion years old. Earth is about four and a half
- 2:16billion years old. When you think about the how how
- 2:21old is civilization? I think the the right measuring
- 2:24point for civilization in my view or or a a good measuring
- 2:27point would be the advent of writing.
- 2:30So the first writing is generally considered to be the
- 2:35ancient Sumerians. Where are they now?
- 2:38They died out but the about 5500 years ago was archaic pre pre
- 2:45cuneiform. In fact I suggest it's like an
- 2:48interesting rabbit hole to read about the history of writing.
- 2:54So if you consider say like OK, civilization, I think if you
- 2:56don't have writing you kind of need writing for civilization.
- 2:59So so there's only been around for like a little over 5000
- 3:04years out of four and a half billion years that Earth has
- 3:07been around and the 13.8 billion years of the universe.
- 3:10So we're all of human. Civilization is basically the
- 3:12blink of an eye. It's like a just a fraction.
- 3:16It's almost it's nothing. And I think that that probably
- 3:23means that that consciousness is incredibly rare and perhaps
- 3:30fleeting. It may not last for very long
- 3:36because otherwise we would have, I think we would have seen
- 3:37aliens, some kind of sign of aliens.
- 3:41I think the most likely explanation is that
- 3:44consciousness is is so rare that that you and and does that
- 3:54consciousness actually extend to another planet.
- 3:57Does that consciousness extend to another star system?
- 4:03I mean ultimately if we're able to become a a space bearing
- 4:06civilization, a multi planet species and ultimately a a multi
- 4:09stellar species and go out there and explore all these star
- 4:13systems. I think we may find that there
- 4:15are many long dead one planet civilizations.
- 4:22We and as you've heard me say before we don't want to be one
- 4:24of those lame one planet civilizations.
- 4:27I mean we want to be a multi planet civilization, ultimately
- 4:31be a multi stellar civil civilization, be out there among
- 4:34the stars, like you know make science fiction, not fiction
- 4:38forever can make Star Star Trek real.
- 4:44That's so that's why I think that there's there's there's a
- 4:48high urgency to making life multi planetary because this is
- 4:58the first time in Earth's 4 1/2 billion year history that it's
- 5:01been possible to extend life or consciousness beyond Earth.
- 5:06And we've got to do that while civilization is still strong.
- 5:12So that's that's that's the overarching goal of the company
- 5:15is extend life sustainably to another planet.
- 5:20Mars is the only option really and to do so ideally before
- 5:26World War Three or some kind of bad thing.
- 5:29The the key thing is that we we need enough people and enough
- 5:33tonnage on Mars such that Mars can survive and continue
- 5:39consciousness. Even if something would happen
- 5:42to Earth now I still think well obviously I'm not talking about
- 5:47abandoning Earth or anything like that and we want Earth to
- 5:49be as good as possible for as long as possible but there are
- 5:52certain things that may be outside of our control so.
- 5:57So we want to just get get to Mars to be a self-sustaining
- 6:01civilization as quickly as possible.
- 6:04And I I think this can be done in around 20 years.
- 6:09So. And this, this, you know, giant
- 6:12Starship factory that we're building is obviously key to
- 6:14that. And the launch sites that we're
- 6:16building here and at and at the Cape and elsewhere in the future
- 6:20will be key to that. I mean, it looks like CGI.
- 6:24I mean it's hard to believe that that is unfiltered video.
- 6:27That's just the actual what the camera saw, no filters, no
- 6:30nothing. That's actually what the camera
- 6:33saw, which is insane. So, you know, you're doing
- 6:41incredible work that I think almost no one thought would
- 6:47actually happen. So it's well that that this,
- 6:54this strange spot, this we're basically on a sand spit by the
- 6:57Rio Grande near the beach and that is actually the gateway to
- 7:04Mars has to be like if if this was a movie, you'd be like, no
- 7:08way, come on too, too implausible.
- 7:12But it's it's real and that's due to you guys.
- 7:15Congratulations, this is a side by side of the three flights.
- 7:26You can see how thrust away it improved significantly.
- 7:36So we've we've made tremendous progress from Flight 1 to Flight
- 7:412 to Flight 3, and we got Flight 4 coming up in about a month or
- 7:47so. And with Flight 4 we should if
- 7:52we get you know if fate smiles upon us, we'll get through the
- 7:56high heating regime and smash into the ocean at a controlled
- 8:01spot and then to hopefully be able to also do this with the
- 8:08with the booster land on a essentially a virtual tower.
- 8:14If if the landing on the virtual tower with the booster works
- 8:19then we will actually try with flight 5 to come back and land
- 8:22on the tower. No, that's very much a success
- 8:32oriented schedule but but it is in the realm of possibility.
- 8:37But I would say like the the odds of us actually being able
- 8:40to catch the the booster with the Mechazilla arms this year.
- 8:45I think I don't. I don't want to tempt fate,
- 8:47knock on wood. But I think the odds of actually
- 8:49catching the booster with the tower probably like 80 or 90%
- 8:55this year, which is insane. Like, actually, when we first
- 9:00talked about it, it sounded so batshit crazy.
- 9:06We're going to have a giant. It's like literally bigger than
- 9:08Megazilla from this movie that you'd catch like the, like the
- 9:14the biggest flying object ever made with mechanical arms out of
- 9:19the air, then we're going to do it.
- 9:22So yeah it may not work you know necessarily the first time but
- 9:28it you know it will work. So really Starship is is really
- 9:34the key to making life multi planetary and preserving the
- 9:37lighter light of consciousness that's what it's all about and
- 9:43it it may end up being the most important thing that that we
- 9:48ever do. I think that you're you're like
- 9:52the light of consciousness is like this this tiny candle in a
- 9:55in a vast darkness and that candle has only been lit for a
- 10:01very short time and it could easily go out.
- 10:05So we obviously want to preserve that that the tiny light of
- 10:08consciousness on Earth but extend it to Mars and then
- 10:12ultimately to the rest of the solar system and then start
- 10:16going to others other star systems.
- 10:19And I mean I won't be allowed to see that but unless I'm like
- 10:23frozen or something like that But but I, you know I think at
- 10:28some point we will discover many civilizations that maybe lasted
- 10:33a million years or 2 million years or 10 million years but a
- 10:37civilization that lasted a million years which would be you
- 10:40know vastly longer than our civilization has lasted.
- 10:47I mean that that's only the the 3rd decimal point so like 13.8
- 10:52billion something something years if your if your
- 10:55civilization lasts a million years it's only goes that third
- 11:00digit pass the decimal point goes up one and that's a million
- 11:04years. So I mean I'd say like we should
- 11:09think like how do we make civilization last a million
- 11:11years. You know, we often get caught up
- 11:15in like the day-to-day things, but we want them to have at
- 11:19least a million year civilization, if not 100 million
- 11:22year civilization or a billion year civilization.
- 11:25So absolutely crucial to that goal is becoming a multi planet
- 11:30species. People often people often ask
- 11:35why, Why Mars? Well there's not a lot of
- 11:38options frankly. So Venus is a super heated high
- 11:45pressure acid bath. So not, not what you don't don't
- 11:51want to go to Venus, but and then the moon is close, but it
- 11:58it it doesn't have an atmosphere, the gravity is only
- 12:00one sixth out of Earth and it's missing a lot of key resources.
- 12:05So also the the the the insulating value of the moon
- 12:13relative to Mars is much less. So if there's something that
- 12:15takes out of like let's say there's a World War three global
- 12:18thermonuclear warfare, they'll probably throw a few nukes at at
- 12:22the moon. So whereas it's way harder to to
- 12:25to shoot Mars with with in which Mars would see it coming and
- 12:29probably have some time to stop the inbound missiles.
- 12:34So that the the the the value of Mars the the the difficult or
- 12:38the distance and time required to get to Mars actually has an
- 12:43insulating benefit to the for the continuation of
- 12:46consciousness. Even if there's something
- 12:48terrible happens on Earth. And and then once we go beyond
- 12:55Mars there's there's some asteroids like Cerus, some of
- 12:59the moons of Jupiter Starship would ultimately be capable of
- 13:05of reaching anywhere in the solar system and then we'll need
- 13:09something a new level of technology to go to other star
- 13:14systems. But if we can't at least get to
- 13:15Mars then other star systems are hopeless.
- 13:19I mean it's a fixer upper of a planet, OK, needs some work, but
- 13:24it is it's it's really the only option for becoming
- 13:29multiplanetary and long term. We can warm up Mars and we can
- 13:34there. There would be, we can densify
- 13:35the atmosphere and there'd be a liquid ocean on about 40% of the
- 13:39surface, so we could make it an Earth like planet long term.
- 13:48So let's see we've we've we've learned a tremendous amount from
- 13:58when we started the company and and at first could we're unable
- 14:02to get even a small rocket to orbit to now where we've done
- 14:06three 327 successful launches almost 300 landings in fact you
- 14:13know give it a few weeks and we'll have done 3300 landings, 2
- 14:19161 reflights. So many times I was told that
- 14:27that reusability was was impossible and even if you did
- 14:32it there would there would be no point because nobody would want
- 14:34to fly rockets that much. But now we routinely fly and
- 14:41land the booster and we recover the fairing.
- 14:44So we've learnt A tremendous amount from the Falcon program
- 14:48that is then feeding into the Starship program and Falcon and
- 14:54Starlink are what obviously keep keep the company going.
- 14:58So I just like to give a hand to the the Falcon team for the
- 15:03incredible work that they're doing.
- 15:14And then Dragon Wow 45 launches of Dragon it's amazing and we've
- 15:25flown flown 50 crew members to orbit 46 to the space station
- 15:33and everyone has come home safely which is the most
- 15:38important thing. So you know incredible work by
- 15:42the Dragon team. So skim a hand that was couldn't
- 15:45ask for a better outcome. And Starlink actually if you
- 15:56look at the sort of the the plot of the all the satellites going
- 16:00around Earth, this look kind of scary actually.
- 16:05But there's there's 6000 satellites in operation, over
- 16:096010 thousand lasers, almost 3 million customers.
- 16:16So Starlink is doing a lot of good for people, for people on
- 16:21Earth who don't either don't have Internet access or it's
- 16:24very expensive. And so it's doing doing a lot of
- 16:27good you know on Earth. Because when I say we want to be
- 16:32a multi planet species I'm you know we obviously want Earth to
- 16:36be as good as possible and Mars to be to be great.
- 16:41So Starlink is is doing a tremendous amount of of that and
- 16:45we're learning a lot by having this big fleet.
- 16:48Starlink will also be very important for high bandwidth
- 16:51communication to and on Mars. So from a from a tiny rocket to
- 17:04Falcon 9 which is a much bigger rocket, many iterations of
- 17:08Falcon Nine and then Falcon Heavy and then Starship and
- 17:15Starship will get bigger. Obviously, you know this, this
- 17:22year if if things go according to plan, SpaceX will do probably
- 17:2890% of all Earth mass to orbit, and then China will do about 6%
- 17:34and the rest of the world will do about 4%, which is pretty
- 17:38wild. And then once Starship is
- 17:41flying, we'll be doing over 99% of all Earth mass to orbit,
- 17:48which you kind of have to do in order to build a city on Mars.
- 17:52And I should say we'll also build a a a lunar base as well.
- 17:55So it might as well along the way.
- 18:00So you can see that actually Falcon One was really, yeah,
- 18:06half a ton to orbit welling grief, slight error on the slide
- 18:11there. So Falcon One was about half a
- 18:12ton to orbit. Falcon 9, depending on in
- 18:16expendable mode, I would do probably 25 tons to orbit.
- 18:21And yeah, Falcon Heavy probably 70.
- 18:25Anyway, these these are just obviously rapidly increasing
- 18:30numbers and Starship in its final configuration or its final
- 18:34form will probably do well over 200 tons to orbit with full
- 18:39reusability and be able to fly, you know, multiple times a day.
- 18:46So. So I'm pretty confident we will
- 18:50achieve that this year like I said probably 8090% this year
- 18:57and and then there's recovering and reusing the ship, the ship
- 19:01will take longer. So the ship I think we will want
- 19:05to have at least two consecutive successes of a given design
- 19:13that's land at a specific point in the ocean or smashed into a
- 19:18specific point in the ocean before we try to bring it back
- 19:21to the launch site because we do, we do not want to rain
- 19:24debris over Mexico or the US. So my guess is probably next
- 19:30year is when we will be able to reuse Starship.
- 19:33But I think it's it's I think it's highly likely that this
- 19:36year we will bring Starship to or the ship, the ship side of it
- 19:39to a controlled point in the ocean and have it basically land
- 19:44on a virtual virtual tower in somewhere in the in the Pacific
- 19:50or the Indian Ocean. And we've already proven that we
- 19:55can do the final phase of landing.
- 19:57So coming from sort of a belly first position to rotating the
- 20:03ship and landing vertically we proved that right here.
- 20:07So what we just really we just need to be confident that we can
- 20:10get through the high heating portion of the of of RE entry.
- 20:15Reliably and then we'll bring the ship back and it will land
- 20:18on the tower as well. And we're going to build more
- 20:21mekazillas. So there's going to be two
- 20:24launch towers here and and I think and then two launch towers
- 20:29at the Cape as well. So we'll have four launch towers
- 20:35for 4 Starship probably you know by sometime next year.
- 20:42So we're aiming to have the first Cape launch tower and
- 20:49launch system operational around the middle of next year and
- 20:54that'll be important for launch Azimuths that are sort of fly
- 21:00over land. So I think what what we should
- 21:08probably expect is that we, we do the kind of the development
- 21:11launches here, test anything new here, build the, build the
- 21:16Rockets and then play most of the operational launches would
- 21:19be from the Cape. So this year, we're planning to
- 21:27build another roughly 6 boosters and ships and and that
- 21:38production rate will increase a lot next year.
- 21:41That's why we're building the the giant factory.
- 21:48Ultimately, we'll need to build a lot more ships than boosters,
- 21:51especially for Mars, because it's the you'll actually want to
- 21:55use the ship. Take apart the ship and use it
- 21:58for raw materials on Mars, because the ship materials will
- 22:01be so valuable you most of the ships you wouldn't want to bring
- 22:04back, you'd want to just use them for raw materials.
- 22:08Eventually we will want to bring ships back and I think we want
- 22:11to give people the option of coming back because they're more
- 22:13likely to want to go if there's some option of coming back.
- 22:19But I think most of most of the people that go to Mars will
- 22:22probably never come back to Earth.
- 22:24So and we'll need to ramp production to pretty high
- 22:31numbers like I think ultimately probably a ship every like
- 22:36multiple ships per day basically.
- 22:40And then next year we're aiming to demonstrate ship to ship
- 22:44propellant transfer. It's it's hard to make this not
- 22:50look a little bit naughty because it's two ships
- 22:55connecting and doing a fluid transfer just what it is.
- 23:02But it is this is actually a very important this is a very
- 23:08important step on going to Mars because you need to put to get
- 23:10the ship to orbit and then do orbital refilling kind of like
- 23:14aerial refuelling and and that's that's really you'll need about
- 23:21about 5 or 6 refilling missions for everyone mission that goes
- 23:27to Mars. So roughly 5 to 1.
- 23:32So and and this will also be very important for the Artemis
- 23:35program for the to to get back to the moon.
- 23:38So we want to have a ship that is, well, it's going to be a
- 23:41specialized ship for the moon like this.
- 23:47So the moon obviously there's no Mechazola, so we need landing
- 23:50legs and you don't need a heat shield and you don't need flaps
- 23:55because there's no atmosphere. So the moon ship would be
- 23:58specialized and now ultimately I think we we want to build a moon
- 24:06base, moon base alpha and have a permanently occupied base on the
- 24:13moon like that would be super exciting.
- 24:17And so you'd have a bunch of ships that are specialised for
- 24:21going to and from the moon, but they never come back to, they
- 24:26never land back on Earth. They just would would dock with
- 24:30propellant, propellant tankers to get overload refilling.
- 24:35So in terms of performance, we've made dramatic progress on
- 24:39on every level for Starship. It's remarkable that we can see
- 24:46the Raptor engines and how how it, how it has evolved from you
- 24:53know optimistically 185 tons to 280.
- 24:58And I think ultimately we'll probably the booster engines
- 25:02will will aim to get the booster engines over 330 tonnes of
- 25:05thrust which would mean 10,000 tonnes of total thrust at lift
- 25:09off. So and then the Raptor 3 also
- 25:17will not need a heat shield. So Raptor 3 looks looks very
- 25:21simple and it is actually simplified in a lot of ways, but
- 25:25a lot of the complexity is hidden because we have integral
- 25:28cooling channels in in many parts of the engine that that
- 25:32don't exist in Raptor 2. So in order to not have a heat
- 25:36shield it has to be very resilient, but that it is
- 25:40actually what Raptor 3 would look like.
- 25:42Looks like Raptor 3 looks like it's missing a bunch of parts,
- 25:45but actually those parts have either been deleted or they've
- 25:49been integrated into the system and like I said with integral
- 25:52cooling channels and where where you need secondary plumbing, the
- 25:55secondary plumbing has also been integrated into the pump and
- 25:59into the the chamber jacket. And yeah, so it's much simpler.
- 26:08Well it's it's it's yeah it's actually extremely difficult to
- 26:12build Raptor 3 but but it will be easy to integrate and will
- 26:18have higher performance and lower total mass and be more
- 26:24reliable. So
- 26:52well that can go on for a while. So I I find it interesting to
- 26:57look at the if you look at the the flame tail on Starship and
- 27:03how long it is, it's a it's a very long flame tail which is
- 27:08due to the fact that the the the chamber pressure well it's it's
- 27:12just outputting a lot more yeah a lot more gas at a higher
- 27:16velocity. But I think the flame tail is
- 27:19like maybe 1000 feet long. It's like more than twice the
- 27:22length of the rocket and that will actually get as as we
- 27:26increase the thrust that will get longer.
- 27:28So yeah and inevitably the rocket grows in height.
- 27:35So Starship 2 we're aiming for like I currently flight 3 would
- 27:40be around 40 or 50 tons to orbit.
- 27:45So the current design, Starship 2 will be over 100 tons and then
- 27:49Starship 3 will be over 200 tons.
- 27:53And yeah, it's going from around 7000 tons thrust to over 8000.
- 28:02But I I think we'll we'll we'll end up ultimately with more than
- 28:05three, more than 10,000 tons of thrust, probably 7 or 8000 tons
- 28:12of lift off mass and at least 10 meters taller.
- 28:16We'll see. Tends to grow, Yeah, exactly.
- 28:28So it probably grows a bit more than that, even really.
- 28:35So if you look at Falcon Nine, it's we're not going to do the
- 28:38length to diameter of Falcon Nine.
- 28:40That would be crazy. But Falcon 9 is a very long
- 28:44rocket, and so I suspect it'll probably get a bit longer than
- 28:51this. But at 200 tons per flight,
- 28:54fully reusable, that is, that is pretty incredible.
- 28:59And yeah, this will be on the order of 500 feet tall.
- 29:10And then we're this, this, there's thousands of design
- 29:15improvements here. So I mean, I think maybe the
- 29:22most, one of the most profound things is Starship 3 will cost
- 29:26less per flight than Falcon one. So that's the difference between
- 29:32if you've got a fully reusable rocket or an expendable rocket.
- 29:37The fully reusable rocket with low cost propellant and
- 29:41autogenous pressurization actually costs less than a a
- 29:46tiny expendable rocket. So and it'll do like I said,
- 29:51Falcon one is about half a ton to orbit.
- 29:53The Starship 3 will be 400 times more payload for less than the
- 29:58cost of a Falcon one. Ultimately, I think we might be
- 30:02able to get the cost per flight to Earth orbit down around
- 30:07$2,000,000 or $3,000,000. So these are sort of unthinkable
- 30:14numbers from the, you know, nobody ever thought this was
- 30:18possible, but we're not breaking any physics to achieve this.
- 30:22So this is within the without breaking physics, we can do
- 30:25this. So the Mars missions are two
- 30:32years apart or 26 months. And if you look closely at the
- 30:39Starlink router, you see the the home and transfer from Earth
- 30:45orbit to Mars orbit. And that's basically to say to
- 30:52people, the Starlink system that you're buying is helping get
- 30:56humanity to Mars. I think it's pretty cool.
- 31:01So roughly every two years, thousands of ships would depart
- 31:05from Earth to Mars. It would look like Battlestar
- 31:08Galactica, but in a good way, you know, hopefully without
- 31:12being chased by the Cylons. But it would be an incredible
- 31:16thing to see these thousands of ships departing every every 26
- 31:19months. For Mars.
- 31:23What this diagram is basically saying is that for getting to
- 31:27Mars, we would essentially create a kind of a propellant
- 31:35depot ship. The propellant depot would look
- 31:38more like a hot dog than like a spear, surely just makes a long
- 31:43ship with a lot of insulation, and we'd pull that ship up and
- 31:50then shortly before or as as they're going to Mars, the ships
- 31:56would take off with, I don't know, a couple 100 tons of
- 32:00payload from Earth reach orbit with very almost no propellant.
- 32:04And then get refilled by the tanker and then go to Mars and
- 32:09and land go all the way to Mars with over 200 tonnes of useful
- 32:12payload. Then on Mars at in the beginning
- 32:16we would I think we would simply reuse the ship materials so most
- 32:20of the ships wouldn't come back but then over time you'd want to
- 32:23bring the ships back so you could reuse them and and for
- 32:26that we would need to create methane chapter 4 and oxygen O2
- 32:30on Mars which you can do with H2O and CO2.
- 32:34So the atmosphere is CO2 and there's plenty of water ice H2O
- 32:38and so it's it's kind of like tailor made for well actually
- 32:43the reason we have methane oxygen system is because you can
- 32:47make methane and oxygen on Mars fairly easily.
- 32:50Like not just not a total walk in the park but the ingredients
- 32:54are readily available to create methane and oxygen on Mars.
- 32:59So so you build a propellant depot and and bring the ships
- 33:06back and build out as quickly as possible a self-sustaining
- 33:11civilization on Mars. And we want to get the we want
- 33:14to get the cost of going to Mars such that almost anyone could
- 33:17afford it. So like if somebody were to just
- 33:21work hard on Earth save up and that they'd be able to go to
- 33:23Mars. So it's like anyone ideally
- 33:27almost anyone could go to Mars and I think you'll see a lot of
- 33:29governments also sponsor people and ultimately we'll we'll want
- 33:34to get. So there's kind of an optimal
- 33:39landing zone on Mars where you have resources so you've got
- 33:43access to water or frozen water that you're not too close to the
- 33:48poles so you can use solar power.
- 33:50It would it would be nice to use nuclear.
- 33:53I don't know if we'll get get the approval, but nuclear would
- 33:56be very handy on Mars because you can use the heat and you can
- 33:59generate electricity. So and then you kind of want to
- 34:03be about two kilometers below sea level.
- 34:06So if Mars did have an ocean, you'd actually be quite deep in
- 34:10the ocean at least at 1st. And yeah, so let's see, that's
- 34:21Mars kind of kind of want to land about halfway between the
- 34:27the pole and the equator in a kind of a deep area of Mars.
- 34:34If if you the deeper it is, the more you can use the atmosphere
- 34:37to break and the atmospheric density is higher.
- 34:43So these are all the things that would have to be developed.
- 34:47So as people ask me, are we developing these things?
- 34:49I'm like not yet because this is the cart and we need the horse
- 34:53first, so the rocket is the horse and then this is the cart.
- 34:58But ultimately we'll need all these things, lesser power
- 35:01generation, mining in general, ice mining, propellant
- 35:04production, long duration life support construct, a lot of
- 35:08construction and and the global communication.
- 35:13So I think this would open up a lot of opportunities for
- 35:16entrepreneurs that want to create any create things on
- 35:20Mars, whether that is a propellant.
- 35:22Well, I think we'll have to do the propellant depot.
- 35:24But whether it's like iron ore refining or a pizza joint or a
- 35:29bar, you know, there'll be an opportunity to do all the things
- 35:33that we like on Earth, on Mars, like a Mars bar would be, yeah,
- 35:41great. So I think I think probably the
- 35:46a rough order of magnitude guess for what you need, how many
- 35:49people do you need for a self-sustaining city is about a
- 35:52million and several million tonnes of of cargo.
- 35:58So yeah, which we can do and we can do this in 20 years.
- 36:08But like I said, in order for it to be self-sustaining, you
- 36:11actually need the entire base of industry.
- 36:12You can't be missing any element.
- 36:14So that's that's really what's going to take take a while is do
- 36:18you have everything you need to survive on Mars At that point
- 36:21the future of consciousness is assured.
- 36:27So if you do 10 launches a day at 200 tons per launch, million
- 36:34and a half tons to Leo per opportunity, you you net that
- 36:37out to a quarter million tons to Mars per opportunity.
- 36:42So that means you can get to 1,000,000 tons in about 8 years
- 36:48since the opportunities of two years apart.
- 36:55So I think it's pretty doable. And I'm like, we're actually
- 36:58going to do this, Are we? You know, we are actually going
- 37:02to do it, which is insane to think so.
- 37:06Millions of tons to Mars. Yeah, Wild.
- 37:13And we're going to build a lot of vehicles.
- 37:18So yeah, several thousand vehicles per year is what we'll
- 37:25need, which really quite, quite doable actually.
- 37:34It sounds like a lot, but it's very doable.
- 37:39Yeah. If you compare it to sort of car
- 37:41production, it's a small number. Of course this is much bigger
- 37:45than a car. But even if you look at the
- 37:47total tonnage, the it's still very, it's very doable to both
- 37:52several thousand vehicles a year.
- 37:55So that's what we need to do and we're going to do it.
- 38:02And then long term, we'll probably have some offshore
- 38:04launch sites. They can just imagine all of
- 38:34these starships waiting in orbit for the planets to align and
- 38:40then this gigantic Starfleet taking off from Mars.
- 39:33All right, So we're actually going to do this.
- 39:37And when you think about where this started out, this was
- 39:41literally just a like a, a sandbar where we're standing
- 39:45right now. And now look at what we've done
- 39:47here and that we've gotten three flights off of Starship and
- 39:51we've got a 4th, 4th 1 coming up and we're building a gigantic
- 39:55factory that will be able to output a massive number of
- 39:58ships. So.
- 40:01It's surreal, but it but it's real.
- 40:05So we're actually going to do this.
- 40:06We're going to take humanity to Mars and I'm confident you can
- 40:12do it.