Latest / Earn Your Leisure / EYL #306 Lawyer Quits Law to Build a Multi-Million Dollar Empire: Doing Business in Africa & The White House
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- 1:56Speaker 4: my brother.
- 1:57Speaker 9: You've heard a lot about you guys too, obvious ladies,
- 2:00Speaker 9: so appreciate the conversation.
- 2:02Speaker 6: First of all, congratulations on everything that you've been able
- 2:04Speaker 6: to accomplish. An extremely impressive resume for sure. Thank you, brother,
- 2:07Speaker 6: really really appreciate that. So I want to start out
- 2:10Speaker 6: just on the inspiration what inspired you and your brother
- 2:12Speaker 6: to start to Burr's Brothers Incorporated during Social arrest twenty.
- 2:17Speaker 9: Twenty Yeah, no, great question, And just to kind of
- 2:19Speaker 9: give you guys the background, my brother and I have
- 2:21Speaker 9: a company called the Burns Brothers, which is more of
- 2:24Speaker 9: a holding company. Now we have seven businesses. We have
- 2:26Speaker 9: an e vent production company. We produce concerts, awards shows.
- 2:29Speaker 9: We produce the first ever Juneteenth concert at the White
- 2:31Speaker 9: House for President Biden for the last two years. We've
- 2:33Speaker 9: a marketing company. We do multicultural marketing across the country.
- 2:37Speaker 9: We have a diversity company. My brother used to be
- 2:39Speaker 9: the chief diversity officer at City Group for a number
- 2:41Speaker 9: of years, so we do diversity work for Fortune tens
- 2:43Speaker 9: and Fortune one hundreds. As you guys saw from the video.
- 2:46Speaker 9: We have a private membership club called HQD Sea House,
- 2:48Speaker 9: which is really focused on bringing people of color together
- 2:51Speaker 9: to network, to collaborate, but to make an impact. And
- 2:53Speaker 9: we're opening our second location in Nairobi, Kenya in October,
- 2:57Speaker 9: so super excited about that. We have a performance and
- 3:00Speaker 9: wellness and company, and then we're also opening a restaurant
- 3:03Speaker 9: in DC next month. And I also want to bring
- 3:05Speaker 9: into the fact that we're doing tons of work in Africa.
- 3:08Speaker 9: So my brother and I partnered in a large call
- 3:10Speaker 9: center BPO company, which is a business outsourced processing company
- 3:14Speaker 9: about ten years ago. That was based in South Africa
- 3:16Speaker 9: at the time, and now we're in six countries and
- 3:19Speaker 9: we're the largest private employer in the kind of Africa
- 3:21Speaker 9: with twenty one thousand employees in Egypt, Ethiopia and Nigeria, Rwanda,
- 3:26Speaker 9: Kenya and South Africa. And so I wanted to give
- 3:29Speaker 9: you that overview before I kind of talked to you
- 3:31Speaker 9: about the genesis of the Burns Brothers, because the Genesis
- 3:33Speaker 9: of Burns Brothers was framed and impact and framing a
- 3:36Speaker 9: moment in time where I think we all can remember
- 3:38Speaker 9: what we were feeling in June of twenty twenty, the
- 3:41Speaker 9: height of COVID, the height of social unrest. I was
- 3:44Speaker 9: a partner in a law firm in DC. My brother
- 3:46Speaker 9: was a COO of a fortune five hundred company, and
- 3:49Speaker 9: we looked at ourselves. Our brother called me one day
- 3:52Speaker 9: in May. I'll never forget that. He said, hey, bro,
- 3:54Speaker 9: we got to change the narrative.
- 3:56Speaker 10: For people that looked like us.
- 3:57Speaker 9: And I don't think the jobs that we're doing right
- 3:59Speaker 9: now are really are really moving the needle. I said,
- 4:02Speaker 9: what are you talking about? He said, I think we
- 4:04Speaker 9: can make a difference. Let's do something for ourselves and
- 4:06Speaker 9: for our people and our communities. And so June of
- 4:08Speaker 9: twenty twenty, in the height of COVID, the height of
- 4:11Speaker 9: social unrest, I dropped my nose in my low room
- 4:13Speaker 9: and quit my job to launch a company called the
- 4:15Speaker 9: Burns Brothers because we believed in the difference that we
- 4:18Speaker 9: could make. And so everything we do across this country,
- 4:21Speaker 9: across Africa is how can we mobilize, support, uplift and
- 4:25Speaker 9: empower people of color, specifically black people.
- 4:29Speaker 4: Bad.
- 4:32Speaker 5: I mean, we always talk about in our space as entrepreneurs,
- 4:35Speaker 5: taking that imperfect action. Before you made that decision, one
- 4:39Speaker 5: of the things you contemplating is that if do I
- 4:42Speaker 5: have to hit this financial globe before I do it,
- 4:44Speaker 5: or I've done enough to put myself in a position
- 4:47Speaker 5: where if I want to take this leap and say
- 4:49Speaker 5: this is where my values is, this is where my
- 4:51Speaker 5: purpose is, I can go.
- 4:52Speaker 7: What was that moment like for you as you're processing it?
- 4:56Speaker 10: No, really good question.
- 4:57Speaker 9: I think that moment was, you know, obviously a very
- 5:00Speaker 9: difficult decision, right. I think everybody's telling you, man, it's
- 5:03Speaker 9: the unknowns. There are tons of unknowns the world's and chaos.
- 5:07Speaker 9: But I had a mentor told me one time. If
- 5:10Speaker 9: you have a fallback, you fall back. And I think
- 5:13Speaker 9: at that moment in time, we were so purposeful and
- 5:16Speaker 9: we were so passionate about the work that we were
- 5:17Speaker 9: going to do, and we really felt we could change circumstances,
- 5:20Speaker 9: we could change the world, and so the challenge from
- 5:23Speaker 9: a decision making standpoint wasn't as overwhelming because we believed
- 5:27Speaker 9: it was divine, it was our God's calling, and so
- 5:31Speaker 9: from a decision making standpoint, it wasn't that hard, and
- 5:33Speaker 9: we always knew I always could go back to law right,
- 5:36Speaker 9: I could always be a lawyer. I could always go
- 5:38Speaker 9: back to that law from environment. But I said, there's
- 5:40Speaker 9: a few moments in your life that you can really
- 5:42Speaker 9: take a leap and believe in yourself.
- 5:43Speaker 10: And that was that moment.
- 5:45Speaker 4: So let's talk about Africa.
- 5:47Speaker 6: And you said, you've done a lot of work in Africa,
- 5:49Speaker 6: and that's something that you know, I think a lot
- 5:51Speaker 6: of people are interested in. We went to Africa, we
- 5:53Speaker 6: went to Egypt, went to Nigeria, but specifically Ghana. We
- 5:57Speaker 6: went to gone on two times this year and we
- 5:59Speaker 6: are working on business out there. So the opportunities is endless.
- 6:02Speaker 6: But a lot of people don't know when where to start?
- 6:05Speaker 6: So talk about can you walk us through your journey
- 6:07Speaker 6: on the continent, like where did you start, how were
- 6:09Speaker 6: you able to scale, what challenges did you have, and
- 6:12Speaker 6: what do you see the future of entrepreneurship?
- 6:16Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 6:17Speaker 10: No, So number one the power of partnership.
- 6:19Speaker 9: Right, you can't do anything from a business entrepreneur standpoint
- 6:23Speaker 9: without partnerships. And so I mentioned my brother was the
- 6:25Speaker 9: CEO of a Fortune five hundred company prior to launching.
- 6:28Speaker 10: The Burns Brothers.
- 6:29Speaker 9: That company happen to be a company called Conduit, and
- 6:31Speaker 9: Conduit's the largest call center company in the world. So
- 6:35Speaker 9: my brother had thirty eight thousand employees across sixteen countries,
- 6:38Speaker 9: but number were in Africa, and so vis his relationships.
- 6:42Speaker 9: We got into Africa through a partner he had known
- 6:45Speaker 9: and took us to South Africa about ten years ago
- 6:47Speaker 9: and said, Hey, I want you to meet these guys
- 6:49Speaker 9: are doing great work. And the work wasn't necessarily call
- 6:52Speaker 9: center per se. It was call center, but the work
- 6:54Speaker 9: was providing opportunities for black people. I don't know if
- 6:56Speaker 9: you all know, and those general v gentlemen probably know
- 6:59Speaker 9: the unemployment across the kind of Africa for skilled Africans
- 7:02Speaker 9: is outrageous. And these are young, talented, hard working people
- 7:07Speaker 9: that just have done all the right things. They've gone
- 7:09Speaker 9: to school, they got the degrees, but no opportunity comes
- 7:12Speaker 9: to them. And so we thought, what could we do,
- 7:14Speaker 9: not thinking of it from like a business standpoint, but
- 7:17Speaker 9: from a human being standpoint, What can we do could
- 7:19Speaker 9: change those circumstances. And so we became partners in that
- 7:23Speaker 9: organization with the premise that we had American company relationships
- 7:25Speaker 9: that we could drive business that would create jobs and opportunity.
- 7:29Speaker 9: And so look at a lens of advocacy, a lens
- 7:33Speaker 9: of like cultural change and impact was ultimately was the
- 7:35Speaker 9: driving force. But then obviously from a business standpoint, through
- 7:38Speaker 9: that we were able to build more business relationships. And
- 7:42Speaker 9: then through that we built more business relationships and grew
- 7:45Speaker 9: the company across the continent.
- 7:47Speaker 10: And visa that company, we're able to.
- 7:50Speaker 9: Now open our membership club HQ in Nairobi, Kenya in
- 7:54Speaker 9: four months. And so God is great, the blessings are abundant.
- 7:58Speaker 9: But I think it's always leading with the lens of
- 8:00Speaker 9: advocacy first and impact and then the entrepreneurship kind of second.
- 8:04Speaker 4: What are some of the challenges that you face out there.
- 8:06Speaker 6: Because we were out there, we saw a tremendous opportunity,
- 8:10Speaker 6: but there are challenges, like even in Ghana they lost
- 8:12Speaker 6: power for two weeks and that's something that we can't
- 8:15Speaker 6: even imagine something like that happening in America. But what
- 8:18Speaker 6: are some of the challenges that you've been facing as
- 8:20Speaker 6: an entrepreneur in Africa?
- 8:22Speaker 10: Yeah, I think technologies one. Infrastructure is one for sure.
- 8:25Speaker 9: I think I don't know, cans up how many people
- 8:28Speaker 9: in the room avent of the continent, Okay, so a
- 8:31Speaker 9: few people.
- 8:32Speaker 10: I think that's one.
- 8:34Speaker 9: I think sometimes just the level of liaising across the
- 8:39Speaker 9: whole New side of the world from like an employee
- 8:41Speaker 9: standpoint can be challenging too. One thing that's often times
- 8:45Speaker 9: I thought was going to be a challenge but it's
- 8:47Speaker 9: really not is the level of understanding of American culture
- 8:50Speaker 9: across kind of Africa.
- 8:51Speaker 10: It's unbelievable.
- 8:53Speaker 9: And so that was a pleasant surprise how much they
- 8:56Speaker 9: embrace American culture.
- 8:57Speaker 10: There's so knowledgeable American culture.
- 8:59Speaker 9: I think too in some parts of Africa there are
- 9:05Speaker 9: specific things that change, just like the United States, with
- 9:08Speaker 9: whatever administration is in office and right so I think
- 9:11Speaker 9: that can be a challenge to making sure you navigate
- 9:13Speaker 9: the political landscape. But I think those are evolving and
- 9:16Speaker 9: I think those are changing for the better. And well,
- 9:19Speaker 9: I'll say, and I've said that for years now, Africa
- 9:21Speaker 9: is not the future Africa as the president, and I
- 9:23Speaker 9: think from an entrepreneurship standpoint, you think about black people
- 9:26Speaker 9: in this country, if you're not focused on what that
- 9:29Speaker 9: connectivity looks like from an entrepreneurship standpoint, from the outreach standpoint,
- 9:33Speaker 9: with the kind of Africa, you're doing yourself a disservice
- 9:35Speaker 9: and you're doing the business of the disservice.
- 9:37Speaker 5: It's interesting, you know, you got the HQGC house and
- 9:42Speaker 5: most of us, you know, who travel and been to places,
- 9:45Speaker 5: we've seen these type of houses.
- 9:46Speaker 7: We've seen solo house.
- 9:47Speaker 5: So I think it's brilliant that we have one that's
- 9:49Speaker 5: ours that we can call our own. From a membership side,
- 9:52Speaker 5: But I want to talk about the intentionality and maybe
- 9:55Speaker 5: it was done very intentional, right, you you had it
- 9:58Speaker 5: in DC. You could have done it in New York,
- 10:01Speaker 5: maybe Miami, Houston, Chicago, but you chose not. Roby talk
- 10:06Speaker 5: about that because when we think Nairobi and most people
- 10:09Speaker 5: if they've watched like The Avengers, they've seen Nairobi in
- 10:13Speaker 5: a film. But the tech center that has become the
- 10:16Speaker 5: hub that it's become for East Africa. What was the
- 10:18Speaker 5: intentionality in choosing specifically that place.
- 10:22Speaker 9: Yeah, a number of different factors went into that. So
- 10:25Speaker 9: number one, as our brother mentioned, it's an economic hub
- 10:28Speaker 9: brief East Africa, and it's actually the only African country
- 10:32Speaker 9: that has a.
- 10:32Speaker 10: Strategic partnership with the US.
- 10:34Speaker 9: So from like a connectivity standpoint with the US, that
- 10:38Speaker 9: was important, right, And we knew the trajectory of Kenya
- 10:42Speaker 9: specifically and specifically Nairobi. I'm based upon just being there
- 10:46Speaker 9: so much, knowing the government, knowing their focus, and I
- 10:50Speaker 9: understand the vision of the US partnership too, and just
- 10:54Speaker 9: the way that it's being kind of placed as a
- 10:56Speaker 9: Singapore of Africa. So from like a trade and economic hub,
- 11:00Speaker 9: all that made perfect sense. And then me and my brother,
- 11:02Speaker 9: we've always been focused on Africa and like we wanted
- 11:05Speaker 9: to be those conveners those conduits connecting African Americans in
- 11:08Speaker 9: this country to Africans on the continent because we believe
- 11:12Speaker 9: that we can never really realize our true potential if
- 11:16Speaker 9: we're not connected with all the amazing people across the continent.
- 11:20Speaker 9: So those were two things, and then the third thing
- 11:22Speaker 9: was we wanted to think outside the box.
- 11:25Speaker 10: It's easy to go to US.
- 11:26Speaker 9: Space like you know Detroit, or go to New York
- 11:30Speaker 9: or go to Atlanta. It's not easy, but it's easier,
- 11:34Speaker 9: and I don't think the impact would have been as large.
- 11:36Speaker 9: And I think for us, we're all about impact, and
- 11:39Speaker 9: I think doing something and now creating what you brothers
- 11:43Speaker 9: are doing too. You're creating opportunity and you're facilitating communities
- 11:46Speaker 9: that people could never be a part of unless you
- 11:48Speaker 9: were all we're providing that facilitation. And so now us
- 11:53Speaker 9: opening the membership club in Nairobi, not only can our
- 11:55Speaker 9: members probably experience something that could never have dreamed of experiencing,
- 11:58Speaker 9: but now we can introduce Nairobians to our members. And
- 12:03Speaker 9: it's just a beautiful thing to be able to create
- 12:05Speaker 9: a space and facility community that you're actually not only
- 12:07Speaker 9: driving change, you're driving pure impact.
- 12:11Speaker 6: So you also you put together the jew and teen
- 12:15Speaker 6: concert at the White House, right yep, last two years, Yeah,
- 12:18Speaker 6: we got invited to that. This ship we couldn't make it,
- 12:20Speaker 6: but all the pictures I saw on Instagram looked amazing.
- 12:23Speaker 4: So congratulations, thank you.
- 12:25Speaker 6: What is the in the workings of putting something together
- 12:28Speaker 6: like that and how were you able to make that
- 12:31Speaker 6: connection with the government.
- 12:34Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 12:34Speaker 9: So we have an event production company at the Burns
- 12:36Speaker 9: Brothers called Style by the Burns Brothers that we do,
- 12:39Speaker 9: you know, events across the country. But we've always been
- 12:42Speaker 9: very politically active. We did a lot within the Obama Foundation.
- 12:46Speaker 9: I think just being in Washington for twenty plus years
- 12:48Speaker 9: built friendships and built relationships and built network. So I
- 12:51Speaker 9: think number one, never overestimate the power of network, right,
- 12:55Speaker 9: and to make sure that you're building core relationships that
- 12:57Speaker 9: are genuine and based upon an equal goal kind of
- 13:01Speaker 9: give and take. And so when President Biden first did
- 13:05Speaker 9: his first Black History event at the White House right
- 13:10Speaker 9: at the kind of the middle of COVID, it was
- 13:11Speaker 9: actually the president's first event, and they wanted to do
- 13:14Speaker 9: something special, and so I pitched them on a club
- 13:17Speaker 9: quarantine from the East wing. This is when d Nice
- 13:19Speaker 9: was like killing it. Still he's still killing it. And
- 13:21Speaker 9: D and I are very very close, and so I
- 13:23Speaker 9: pitched the White House. I pitched D and they're like, Yo,
- 13:25Speaker 9: this is dope, and so we did a whole club
- 13:28Speaker 9: quarantine from the east wing of the White House in
- 13:31Speaker 9: February of twenty two, and the first lady came in
- 13:34Speaker 9: the club quarantine, the Vice President came the president. So
- 13:38Speaker 9: it was just like this massive success, and it really
- 13:41Speaker 9: introduced a White House to whole new audience and obviously
- 13:43Speaker 9: propelled d to even do even greater stuff.
- 13:45Speaker 10: And so that first touch point open opportunities.
- 13:48Speaker 9: And so last I guess this is last April, one
- 13:54Speaker 9: of the senior advisors at the White House came up
- 13:56Speaker 9: to me at my membership club and she's like, Hey,
- 13:59Speaker 9: we're throwing out idea of doing a Juneteenth concert at
- 14:01Speaker 9: the White House. Would you be interested to help us
- 14:04Speaker 9: curate that experience? And so this is last year. Juneteenth
- 14:07Speaker 9: had just become a founder a federal holiday. This had
- 14:10Speaker 9: never been done before this year the White House, and
- 14:12Speaker 9: so I had a call with them on Monday. We
- 14:14Speaker 9: started talking concepts and I said, hey, it could be this,
- 14:16Speaker 9: it could be that. And then a month and a
- 14:18Speaker 9: half later, through teamanship, through a lot of hard work,
- 14:21Speaker 9: we produced the first.
- 14:22Speaker 10: Ever June teenth.
- 14:23Speaker 9: To get the White House June teen concert the White House,
- 14:25Speaker 9: President Biden spoke d. P. Harris and there was a
- 14:27Speaker 9: magical moment, and so that led to us doing it
- 14:29Speaker 9: again this year and really creating something special. My brother
- 14:33Speaker 9: and I grew up in Texas and June teenth was
- 14:35Speaker 9: really a Texas holiday for the longest because that's when
- 14:38Speaker 9: slaves in Texas found out that they were free, a
- 14:40Speaker 9: year and a half after the Emancipacial Proclamation. And so
- 14:44Speaker 9: to do something that was so special to us for
- 14:46Speaker 9: so long and really bring it to such a national
- 14:49Speaker 9: and global scale, you can't help but be so thankful.
- 14:53Speaker 7: Yeah, that's incredible.
- 14:54Speaker 5: We spoke, you know, a little bit upstairs about growing
- 14:57Speaker 5: up in Texas, but I want to talk about brotherhood then.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Obviously we've experienced when creating Earn a Lisia and the
- 15:03Speaker 5: benefits of it. When most people tell you you shouldn't
- 15:06Speaker 5: work with family, talk about the relationship that you and
- 15:09Speaker 5: your brother have, how it's worked to your benefit and
- 15:11Speaker 5: maybe some challenges that you face right as may not
- 15:14Speaker 5: see go out on all your ideals, but you've created
- 15:18Speaker 5: something very special.
- 15:18Speaker 7: Talk about that.
- 15:20Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 15:20Speaker 9: Yeah, And my brother always says it so eloquently too.
- 15:23Speaker 9: You know, he's an older brother, right, So he's four
- 15:25Speaker 9: years older and so Nanni is our general manager at
- 15:27Speaker 9: HQDC House, so she knows how he can still be
- 15:30Speaker 9: a big brother. So he still bigs brothers me sometimes.
- 15:32Speaker 9: So I think that's one of the challenges. But I
- 15:34Speaker 9: think what he always says and speaks about, which is
- 15:37Speaker 9: so brilliant, is he's known me all my life and
- 15:41Speaker 9: I've known him all my life. And so it's like
- 15:43Speaker 9: a great team, like you know, you know, to pass
- 15:47Speaker 9: the ball based upon their skill set, or to play
- 15:49Speaker 9: defense when they are kind of lacking in defense, because
- 15:52Speaker 9: I think you know each other's kind of motions and
- 15:55Speaker 9: how you move so well, and you know the level
- 15:58Speaker 9: of expertise one person brings and how they can ultimately
- 16:01Speaker 9: support the whole. And so as us as we've grown business,
- 16:05Speaker 9: we've really been focused on being accountable to one another,
- 16:09Speaker 9: being honest with one another, sometimes being brutally honest with
- 16:13Speaker 9: one another, because I think as long as you place
- 16:16Speaker 9: the focus on the whole and not the individual, then
- 16:18Speaker 9: everything's going to work out in your favor. And my
- 16:21Speaker 9: brother comes from a military background. He went to West Point,
- 16:23Speaker 9: served the military for thirteen years, and we always talked
- 16:25Speaker 9: about in the military, there's like this pyramid of priorities, right,
- 16:30Speaker 9: the pyramid priorities is number one, your country, number one,
- 16:35Speaker 9: the president, number two, your country number three, your unit
- 16:38Speaker 9: number two, your squad, number three, your platoon.
- 16:41Speaker 10: Whatever it is.
- 16:42Speaker 9: But in corporate America, there's a pivot of that priority,
- 16:45Speaker 9: right because oftentimes the commitment is to the individual as
- 16:48Speaker 9: opposed to the organization. And we've really framed everything we've
- 16:51Speaker 9: done from a cultural standpoint across all of our organizations,
- 16:54Speaker 9: putting the organization the priority and the individual not. And
- 16:57Speaker 9: so I think using that from a cultural approach is too.
- 17:00Speaker 9: Change like our dynamic, can change our brotherhood, and change
- 17:02Speaker 9: like the business as well.
- 17:04Speaker 6: So to have a social club we have one in
- 17:07Speaker 6: DC and your opening one in Kenya. What is the
- 17:10Speaker 6: business model that actually did a thriving business? Because I
- 17:15Speaker 6: know soul House, I think is struggling a few other
- 17:18Speaker 6: businesses similar have kind of struggled post COVID. So what
- 17:24Speaker 6: makes your situation unique and what what are some things
- 17:27Speaker 6: that you've implemented to kind of beat that curve of
- 17:30Speaker 6: other similar type of businesses that have helped fold on
- 17:34Speaker 6: hard times.
- 17:35Speaker 9: Yeah, So, I mean we're very specific about our demographic
- 17:38Speaker 9: and who we're focused on engaging, and it's definitely you know,
- 17:42Speaker 9: black professionals who are really built around impacting community and
- 17:44Speaker 9: so knowing your market and being very specific to your market,
- 17:48Speaker 9: that's been helpful for us. I think the diversity of
- 17:50Speaker 9: like offerings. Obviously, at our core, we're a membership club,
- 17:54Speaker 9: so it's membership monthly or annual dues. But because of
- 17:57Speaker 9: our location in Washington, we've been very very for I
- 18:00Speaker 9: don't know folks who are familiar with DC, but we
- 18:02Speaker 9: have the building that's six hundred f Street right across
- 18:05Speaker 9: from the Capitol One Arena, and so from a private
- 18:08Speaker 9: event standpoint, we do up sort of like fifteen to
- 18:12Speaker 9: twenty private events a month, and so from a revenue standpoint,
- 18:15Speaker 9: that's been substantially helpful to supplement the membership revenue too.
- 18:20Speaker 10: And we were.
- 18:21Speaker 9: Somewhat intentional around the building that we took over its
- 18:25Speaker 9: multi level right, so you can have a member event,
- 18:29Speaker 9: member kind of activation, but do private events on different
- 18:31Speaker 9: levels as well, so it provides a lot of different
- 18:34Speaker 9: use cases for the space. And we're taken over the
- 18:37Speaker 9: bottom level of that building to open our restaurant because
- 18:40Speaker 9: we were learning that as members left, as private events left,
- 18:44Speaker 9: they were going to other bars and restaurants to eat,
- 18:47Speaker 9: and we're like, we want to control the attendee experience.
- 18:50Speaker 9: And so just learning what gaps exist and basically pivoting
- 18:53Speaker 9: to kind of fill those gaps. It's kind of led
- 18:55Speaker 9: to the success of the organization and we're still learning,
- 18:58Speaker 9: so it's definitely out the perfect process.
- 19:00Speaker 7: So you have a social house. It seems very intentional
- 19:03Speaker 7: and probably makes a lot of sense to have a
- 19:05Speaker 7: social network talk to us about HQ Global something that
- 19:10Speaker 7: they should be looking forward to coming at the end
- 19:12Speaker 7: of this year.
- 19:13Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So this is and I didn't even
- 19:15Speaker 9: share that in my opening, but this is probably one
- 19:16Speaker 9: of the most exciting things that we have coming online.
- 19:19Speaker 9: So we've been building for the last seven months basically
- 19:22Speaker 9: our own IP. Think of it as like a Facebook
- 19:26Speaker 9: for black professionals around the world. And so we're launching
- 19:30Speaker 9: this concept called the HQ Global Network this fall, where
- 19:33Speaker 9: we have a goal of connecting one million black professionals
- 19:36Speaker 9: in an online virtual community across the world by twenty
- 19:39Speaker 9: twenty six.
- 19:41Speaker 10: I think as this.
- 19:42Speaker 7: Hold on, hold on, we should be clapping for that.
- 19:45Speaker 7: That's like six flaps, Hi, John, Yeah, I ap.
- 19:48Speaker 9: Proceed, Yeah, because I think to your point, Bro, I
- 19:51Speaker 9: think there's power in the house concept, but there's really
- 19:54Speaker 9: power in the global community concepts. I think as the
- 19:56Speaker 9: world becomes more flat, people travel more, people become more connected.
- 20:00Speaker 9: I think we need global community, specifically for black people.
- 20:02Speaker 9: I think what we find most troublesome is when we travel,
- 20:06Speaker 9: it's hard to like find your tribe right, and so
- 20:09Speaker 9: how can we create a space where you know where
- 20:10Speaker 9: your tribe is? And so we are launching this fall
- 20:15Speaker 9: and one hundred cities around the world, from Singapore.
- 20:19Speaker 10: To Metaying to.
- 20:23Speaker 9: Add Us in Ethiopia to Detroit, Michigan, And we are
- 20:26Speaker 9: having ambassadors in all these cities around the world, and
- 20:29Speaker 9: we will have communities that will actually be in person,
- 20:32Speaker 9: but through this virtual platform, we'll be able to convene,
- 20:36Speaker 9: we'll be able to network, we'll be able to collaborate.
- 20:38Speaker 9: Because I think, again, as I mentioned earlier, the reason
- 20:41Speaker 9: we're successful, I'm sure the bros can attest to the
- 20:44Speaker 9: reason they're successful is the power of their network and
- 20:47Speaker 9: the ability to reach people. So if you're able to
- 20:50Speaker 9: create a space and facilitate community around the world, I
- 20:53Speaker 9: think it's endless opportunity.
- 20:55Speaker 4: So you have to start stax tartups clubing.
- 20:58Speaker 6: As far as a technology component that's related to the
- 21:02Speaker 6: physical component, right, kind of similar, but in a way
- 21:05Speaker 6: a little different. Is the idea to have a physical
- 21:10Speaker 6: location in every one of the major cities that you
- 21:13Speaker 6: have with the app.
- 21:15Speaker 9: No, I think the physical location model, to your point earlier,
- 21:18Speaker 9: is a challenging model because real estate's expensive, right. I
- 21:20Speaker 9: think it's hard to maintain that level of real estate,
- 21:23Speaker 9: and I know soul houses having challenges of that too.
- 21:25Speaker 9: I think you create space for people to ultimately build
- 21:29Speaker 9: communities communities themselves, and so we're just facilitating communities and
- 21:33Speaker 9: the people themselves or building communities, and so I don't
- 21:36Speaker 9: think you need a physical house to do that. I mean,
- 21:38Speaker 9: while we might open some additional physical houses based upon
- 21:41Speaker 9: kind of the.
- 21:41Speaker 10: Model we're working through, there's no intention.
- 21:43Speaker 9: To open physical houses and all those locations, but really
- 21:46Speaker 9: create a medium for people to come together and build
- 21:48Speaker 9: community around the world.
- 21:49Speaker 4: It's essentially like link LinkedIn kind of but.
- 21:51Speaker 10: Even even bigger than LinkedIn.
- 21:53Speaker 9: Not saying bigger than LinkedIn that's a bold statement, but
- 21:55Speaker 9: even different than LinkedIn in the sense that like you
- 21:58Speaker 9: will be able to if you're we're coming to Baltimore
- 22:02Speaker 9: from Again, I say, coming from attis the theopia.
- 22:06Speaker 10: You already have that.
- 22:08Speaker 9: HQ community in Baltimore that you're already talking with, But
- 22:11Speaker 9: it's not framed in a professional network, our work network
- 22:16Speaker 9: like LinkedIn. It's kind of framed in like building core
- 22:19Speaker 9: genuine relationships, whether it be social, whether it be professional,
- 22:22Speaker 9: whether it be philanthropic, whether it be social impact driven.
- 22:25Speaker 9: It's really building genuine relationships with people who are like mine,
- 22:28Speaker 9: that share the same values and really are your tribe.
- 22:31Speaker 9: Because I think as I travel and I'm sure you
- 22:32Speaker 9: guys can attest to it too, there's so many people
- 22:35Speaker 9: around the world that share the same values who are
- 22:37Speaker 9: just not connected, and so what if there was a
- 22:39Speaker 9: way to connect all of us. And I think as
- 22:42Speaker 9: we think this through the political climate that's taking place
- 22:45Speaker 9: in the United States right now, I think we're going
- 22:47Speaker 9: to need a global community for black.
- 22:48Speaker 10: People to really be able to find refuge.
- 22:50Speaker 9: And so I think we weren't even building this based
- 22:53Speaker 9: upon kind of the chaos that's happening now, but I
- 22:55Speaker 9: think it will definitely fill a need based upon some
- 22:58Speaker 9: of these outcomes that we're seeing right now. One more
- 23:01Speaker 9: question so did you raise money for that? So this
- 23:05Speaker 9: is what I really want to get into. And this
- 23:06Speaker 9: is my brother said, you got to make sure you
- 23:07Speaker 9: talk about this point. And so even the challenge of
- 23:12Speaker 9: being a successful black entrepreneur, you still face a capital challenge, right,
- 23:17Speaker 9: It was so shocking to us. My brother was the
- 23:20Speaker 9: CEO of a fortune five hundred company. I was a
- 23:23Speaker 9: partner at a law firm. It was the first black
- 23:25Speaker 9: partner my law firm. But we still face challenges getting
- 23:28Speaker 9: access to capital. And so to answer your question, my
- 23:31Speaker 9: brother and I funded all of our businesses by ourselves.
- 23:35Speaker 9: We've never taken money, which is I think is.
- 23:37Speaker 7: A thing to thanks bro.
- 23:39Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, that that is commendable, but
- 23:47Speaker 6: it's also troubles troublesome.
- 23:49Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, I think it's commendable, but it's not. I'm
- 23:51Speaker 9: not saying it to be a pat on the back.
- 23:53Speaker 9: I'm saying it to be that's an inherent problem, right
- 23:59Speaker 9: because these issues don't happen to the majority, they don't
- 24:03Speaker 9: happen to other communities, right, So I think it's specific
- 24:05Speaker 9: to communities of color that face these challenges. And so
- 24:08Speaker 9: I'm like, damn, I'm like doing everything I can to
- 24:13Speaker 9: really show that we have done everything from a business perspective,
- 24:16Speaker 9: but we still have challenges. And so to answer your question, no,
- 24:19Speaker 9: we've not taken any real debt. We've never taken like
- 24:22Speaker 9: any investors. We really leverage money from one business to
- 24:25Speaker 9: go the other. But that's not scalable. You can't scale
- 24:28Speaker 9: a business globally like that, right, And so I think
- 24:31Speaker 9: it's conversations like this, networks like these brothers are established
- 24:34Speaker 9: and that really provide access to resources that you need
- 24:37Speaker 9: to grow and scale a business, because I think it's
- 24:40Speaker 9: one thing that's talked about starting the business and there's
- 24:42Speaker 9: a completely different thing talking about scaling the business. And
- 24:45Speaker 9: as we think globally, we need to think how can
- 24:48Speaker 9: we get more resource to support the mission and the
- 24:51Speaker 9: impact we're trying to make.
- 24:52Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the things they told us early on
- 24:54Speaker 5: through the journey, same thing everything we've done, we've self funded.
- 24:58Speaker 5: It was you don't get money or try to get
- 25:02Speaker 5: loan money out or get money loan to you because
- 25:04Speaker 5: you needed, You get it because you want to scale.
- 25:07Speaker 5: Another thing we were taught was like, hey, maybe it's
- 25:10Speaker 5: the approach. And so I wonder as you go through
- 25:13Speaker 5: these things when after you evaluate, then you obviously want
- 25:17Speaker 5: to scale.
- 25:17Speaker 7: What is the approach does it change now for you?
- 25:20Speaker 5: Or what are some of the tips for somebody who's
- 25:23Speaker 5: actually thinking, I want to start a business. I need
- 25:26Speaker 5: to get fun in if you're facing challenges, What am
- 25:28Speaker 5: I going to look like? What are some tips that
- 25:30Speaker 5: I can use when I approach to go about money
- 25:33Speaker 5: being loan to my business?
- 25:35Speaker 10: Yeah? I mean, definitely do your diligence, do your research.
- 25:39Speaker 9: I think there's definitely different types of funds and grants
- 25:42Speaker 9: and different programs out there that can be supportive, for sure,
- 25:45Speaker 9: And so I'm not saying things don't exist. I think
- 25:48Speaker 9: ultimately what it really comes down to is your network.
- 25:54Speaker 9: Some of these cats who don't always look like us,
- 25:57Speaker 9: they're good opportunities just because they're Bob's son, right, And
- 26:02Speaker 9: I think we need to be better about supporting each
- 26:06Speaker 9: other to ultimately create community and spaces that we can
- 26:11Speaker 9: ultimately have global success from a business perspective. And so
- 26:15Speaker 9: I think being in spaces like this where you're meeting people,
- 26:19Speaker 9: opportunities can be afforded to you. I think that's where
- 26:21Speaker 9: the magic happens. In addition to the other resources that
- 26:24Speaker 9: exist online, you know, traditional financing, venture financing, things like
- 26:28Speaker 9: that that are specific to people that look like us
- 26:31Speaker 9: as well. But I think being in spaces where you're
- 26:33Speaker 9: aultually cultivated relationships that can lead to those type of resources,
- 26:37Speaker 9: and just being in spaces that you have the information
- 26:41Speaker 9: knowledge is a power, right, So I think it's continuing
- 26:44Speaker 9: to be in spaces that you can elevate your thought process,
- 26:47Speaker 9: elevate your relationships, and continue to kind of like drive
- 26:51Speaker 9: for whatever type of adventure you're looking to do.
- 26:53Speaker 6: So, I know you work with the government on a
- 26:56Speaker 6: certain level, and I'm sure you have relationships with the
- 26:58Speaker 6: government and can you and probably other places in Africa
- 27:02Speaker 6: this problem as far as access to capital. We spoke
- 27:04Speaker 6: with the Vice president about and it's a heated election season, right,
- 27:09Speaker 6: So what role do you think the government should play
- 27:12Speaker 6: in this or have some level of accountability so people
- 27:16Speaker 6: can actually hold their elected officials accountable.
- 27:18Speaker 4: At at least the very least.
- 27:20Speaker 6: Ask questions because I think that the government doesn't solve
- 27:24Speaker 6: the problem, but it can help the problem in a
- 27:27Speaker 6: certain way. So how do you think the government plays
- 27:30Speaker 6: a role in access to capital?
- 27:32Speaker 4: Conversation?
- 27:33Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean a lot of funds are public funds
- 27:35Speaker 9: right for some of the things that we're talking about,
- 27:37Speaker 9: And so I think your state, your local, your federal
- 27:41Speaker 9: kind of government officials are critical because they're allocating the
- 27:44Speaker 9: dollars that go to support small businesses, they're allocating the
- 27:47Speaker 9: dollars that support community run businesses, and so I think
- 27:51Speaker 9: they're incritically important because they ultimately make the decisions. And
- 27:54Speaker 9: so I think it's right to hold your public and
- 27:57Speaker 9: elected officials accountable, but I think aten times we don't.
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- 30:53Speaker 9: Always know who they are, right, I think we know
- 30:55Speaker 9: the President, we know the Vice president. We know maybe
- 30:58Speaker 9: our governor, maybe our mayor. But those folks are obviously
- 31:01Speaker 9: vitally important. But the folks are actually making the decisions
- 31:03Speaker 9: of the city councilors, you're ian A and c REP.
- 31:07Speaker 9: They're folks within your district of operation and ultimately have
- 31:11Speaker 9: grant funding, have access to capital that you might not
- 31:14Speaker 9: know of. And so I think the diligence is on
- 31:18Speaker 9: you as an entrepreneur as well to make sure you're
- 31:21Speaker 9: understanding who those people are. You have knowledge of who
- 31:23Speaker 9: they are, and you're doing your own outreach. I don't
- 31:26Speaker 9: think I don't think there's an expectation they're going to
- 31:28Speaker 9: come to you and just give you a windfall, right,
- 31:31Speaker 9: And I think sometimes there's a misnomer that there's some
- 31:35Speaker 9: innate obligation they have to you, and they do as
- 31:37Speaker 9: you're their constituents. But I think as a business owner,
- 31:40Speaker 9: you have to be driving your business forward and do
- 31:42Speaker 9: whatever you can to build those relationships.
- 31:44Speaker 6: But then also is very important because does everybody know
- 31:47Speaker 6: who Don Peebles is. Yes, Yeah, he's from right up
- 31:50Speaker 6: the road in DC, and he's almost a billionaire. I
- 31:54Speaker 6: think he's worth for like seven hundred eight hundred million dollars.
- 31:56Speaker 6: He's most successful black real estate developed in American history.
- 32:00Speaker 6: If you talk to him, he always credits his success
- 32:03Speaker 6: to one person, because anybody know who that one person
- 32:05Speaker 6: is Mayor Marion Barry, and when he was in office,
- 32:10Speaker 6: he had an initiative that I think it was like
- 32:13Speaker 6: thirty percent of all contract and had to go to
- 32:15Speaker 6: black developers. So he was a young developer, he ain't
- 32:17Speaker 6: have any money. Long story short, the mayor gave him
- 32:20Speaker 6: his start, and most major cities in America have black mayors, right,
- 32:24Speaker 6: So when we was having a conversation, he was like,
- 32:27Speaker 6: everybody's focused on Trump Biden, but mayors have a lot
- 32:31Speaker 6: of responsibility as far as economic empowerment and different things
- 32:35Speaker 6: of that nature as well. So you're right, you have
- 32:38Speaker 6: to be focused on the local officials. But I think
- 32:42Speaker 6: the private public partnership is something that's not talked about
- 32:46Speaker 6: enough because if a mayor essentially created a black billionaire,
- 32:50Speaker 6: there's only like ten of them in America, then more
- 32:55Speaker 6: wealth can be generated with the help from elected officials,
- 32:58Speaker 6: I think.
- 33:00Speaker 10: One hundred percent.
- 33:00Speaker 9: But I think that was based upon the relationship too, right,
- 33:03Speaker 9: And so I think the public private partnership is critically important.
- 33:06Speaker 9: But I think mister Peoples was very genuine intentional about
- 33:10Speaker 9: really building relationship with the mayor.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Was in charity, like yeah, he exactly, Yeah, put in position.
- 33:15Speaker 10: Put your wealth in position.
- 33:16Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And actually I have a real quick
- 33:18Speaker 9: down people story too, and I think he's and he
- 33:21Speaker 9: doesn't know me, and we met just one time. I'll
- 33:23Speaker 9: never forget. We met about fifteen years ago at his house.
- 33:26Speaker 9: He was doing some event and I met him. I said, you,
- 33:28Speaker 9: mister Peoples. You know I'm a lawyer. I'm a young lawyer.
- 33:31Speaker 9: But I you know, ultimately when they get into real
- 33:33Speaker 9: estate one day, and maybe even entrepreneurship one day, and
- 33:36Speaker 9: he's like, give me your give me your card, I'll
- 33:39Speaker 9: never forget it.
- 33:39Speaker 10: That following week, I got.
- 33:41Speaker 9: His book sent to my office in a whole page
- 33:43Speaker 9: inscription telling me about to continue the dream, continue the work,
- 33:48Speaker 9: and you'll continue to be successful, and some other things too.
- 33:51Speaker 10: But I think that level of care still stays in
- 33:54Speaker 10: my head.
- 33:55Speaker 9: And I'm glad you mentioned him because he's such a
- 33:56Speaker 9: solid brother and he's doing amazing things. But I think
- 33:59Speaker 9: those moments, I always say there's few moments in life
- 34:02Speaker 9: that really matter, and that was a moment it really
- 34:04Speaker 9: mattered that helped me change the trajectory of how I thought,
- 34:08Speaker 9: from like a business standpoint, I could be achieved.
- 34:11Speaker 7: When you went over your portfolio as you came out.
- 34:14Speaker 5: I'm looking seven different businesses and industries and obviously we
- 34:18Speaker 5: talked about HQ and we talked about the social network,
- 34:21Speaker 5: but you also mentioned a global call center where twenty
- 34:24Speaker 5: one thousand Africans are employed. In the age of automation,
- 34:29Speaker 5: we always talk about AI. I wonder how does it
- 34:32Speaker 5: affect the business. Is this something that you look at
- 34:34Speaker 5: in terms of business or are you looking to employ
- 34:37Speaker 5: more people and go against the grain of technology.
- 34:40Speaker 7: How do you view that for the call center business.
- 34:43Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great question. That's something we talk about
- 34:44Speaker 10: all the time.
- 34:45Speaker 9: So obviously AI is super important, so we incorporate technology
- 34:48Speaker 9: and all of our operations, but I think what's unique
- 34:52Speaker 9: to an African is empathy, compassion, understanding, and sometimes you
- 35:01Speaker 9: cannot replace that with the robot, right are with technology
- 35:05Speaker 9: with AI. And so we talk to clients, especially American companies,
- 35:08Speaker 9: even some companies in Europe and across.
- 35:10Speaker 10: Other kind of geos as well.
- 35:14Speaker 9: These are people that have been served such a raw deal,
- 35:19Speaker 9: but they have such an empathetic, opportunistic personality that they
- 35:23Speaker 9: believed in, like every opportunity is something that should be
- 35:26Speaker 9: really grateful for and so calls that are very challenging
- 35:30Speaker 9: that need a level of empathy understanding, those are the
- 35:33Speaker 9: type of clients we take. And so AI is not
- 35:35Speaker 9: going to kind of take over our business because I
- 35:37Speaker 9: think at the end of the day, you still need
- 35:39Speaker 9: empathetic people. When you're playing gets delayed, your playing gets canceled,
- 35:42Speaker 9: you're stranding the airport, you need someone to empathize with you.
- 35:45Speaker 9: And so that's really what we train. We need people
- 35:47Speaker 9: to be compassionate, understanding, but also proactive and smart and
- 35:51Speaker 9: intelligent as well. And so I think that's unique to
- 35:54Speaker 9: Africa a lot, right, and I think that's what is
- 35:57Speaker 9: kind of our driving force, and I think that's how
- 35:59Speaker 9: we've been able to go across the continent.
- 36:02Speaker 5: That's incredible. Now I'm looking at the businesses again. We
- 36:04Speaker 5: got the call center, we got that hospitality. Let's talk
- 36:08Speaker 5: about the restaurant business. That's something that obviously a lot
- 36:11Speaker 5: of people in our community either try to thrive they
- 36:13Speaker 5: don't have aspirations to thrive inside that a challenging business. Nonetheless,
- 36:18Speaker 5: talk about some of the things that you face and
- 36:20Speaker 5: the goals for the restaurant.
- 36:22Speaker 7: Is it kata would that say it's.
- 36:23Speaker 10: Called Kata Kata.
- 36:24Speaker 9: So it's an Asian fusion top us and kind of
- 36:27Speaker 9: cocktail restaurant. And so the interesting genesis of the restaurant.
- 36:31Speaker 10: Was my brother. Well, with all of our.
- 36:34Speaker 9: Businesses, we saw gaps and we filled gaps right, so
- 36:38Speaker 9: they just weren't like some random businesses we started. We
- 36:40Speaker 9: wanted to ultimately control the supply chain, and so why
- 36:43Speaker 9: would we have a marketing company And then when a
- 36:48Speaker 9: client needed events, weird outsourceding the event company.
- 36:51Speaker 10: So we started an event company.
- 36:52Speaker 9: Why would we have a diversity company that didn't also
- 36:54Speaker 9: have like a wellness component, because a clients needed wellness,
- 36:57Speaker 9: and so we grew organically based on identifying needs. And
- 37:01Speaker 9: the story of Tata was the first floor of our
- 37:05Speaker 9: building became available about nine months ago, and I remember
- 37:10Speaker 9: one of the local bars told me.
- 37:12Speaker 10: He's like, yo JB.
- 37:14Speaker 9: Every guy, time you guys have events, we do crazy numbers.
- 37:19Speaker 10: I'm like, well, why are we.
- 37:21Speaker 9: Pushing all this business to all these other places where
- 37:25Speaker 9: we are actually convening people and then ultimately, right or wrong,
- 37:29Speaker 9: we want everybody in the community to do well. But
- 37:31Speaker 9: I was like, we need to actually continue to control
- 37:33Speaker 9: that member, that guest experience and so it was like
- 37:37Speaker 9: a no brainer with that opportunity to open the restaurant
- 37:40Speaker 9: because now we can really guide the guest across the
- 37:44Speaker 9: whole experience and they don't.
- 37:46Speaker 10: Have to go anywhere else.
- 37:47Speaker 7: One stop shop, one stop shop.
- 37:50Speaker 6: The call center thing is interesting though, because so somebody
- 37:54Speaker 6: just sent me I just got educated on this artificial
- 37:57Speaker 6: intelligence that responds to people like cold calling, right, And
- 38:02Speaker 6: I was just testing it out, and it's kind of
- 38:05Speaker 6: scary because I feel like it's really good in answering questions.
- 38:09Speaker 6: And the thing about the AI is that it gets
- 38:12Speaker 6: more intelligent by the day. So even what you're saying
- 38:15Speaker 6: as far as it not having emotional intelligence, but that's
- 38:18Speaker 6: like the next level of AI, right, the programming to
- 38:21Speaker 6: have like a high level of emotional intelligence, just like
- 38:23Speaker 6: it has general intelligence.
- 38:25Speaker 4: So at some point in time, the AI is going
- 38:28Speaker 4: to be able to do that. Right.
- 38:30Speaker 6: So for you as a business owner, that's beneficial because
- 38:34Speaker 6: you save money, But it's also scary because it's like,
- 38:37Speaker 6: that's twenty one thousand people just in your company that's unemployed, right,
- 38:41Speaker 6: So how do you see the future of like just
- 38:47Speaker 6: business in general, with so many jobs eventually will be
- 38:52Speaker 6: replaced by AI. There's no way around it, right, Like,
- 38:55Speaker 6: what is your thought process on that kind of looking
- 38:59Speaker 6: in the future.
- 39:01Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think it's something we've seen for the
- 39:04Speaker 9: last multiple decades, right with the expansion of technology. I
- 39:07Speaker 9: don't think this is going to be any different. I
- 39:08Speaker 9: think technology ultimately, why it might take away jobs, it
- 39:11Speaker 9: also creates jobs, and it creates opportunities. I think as
- 39:15Speaker 9: business owners and we think about talking about wealth and
- 39:18Speaker 9: even specific to call center, I think you always have
- 39:21Speaker 9: to pivot, You always have to adapt, You always have
- 39:24Speaker 9: to come up with new ways to support your business
- 39:27Speaker 9: based upon technology and how it evolves. But I think
- 39:30Speaker 9: we've been good about understanding things and getting ahead of things,
- 39:34Speaker 9: and so yes, clearly it's going to affect kind of
- 39:37Speaker 9: some needs and we'll just have to pift and adjust.
- 39:39Speaker 9: But it also might create more opportunities for employment too, right,
- 39:43Speaker 9: And so we just never know. But we also want
- 39:45Speaker 9: to stay ahead of things and really focused on not
- 39:49Speaker 9: how is technology going to take things away, but how
- 39:52Speaker 9: is technology going to provide more opportunities.
- 39:55Speaker 5: Before we get out of I definitely want to talk
- 39:57Speaker 5: about we talk about the businesses, but I know something
- 39:59Speaker 5: that's near and dear to you is giving back. So
- 40:02Speaker 5: philanthropy is something that's obviously part of the portfolio. I
- 40:06Speaker 5: saw the foundation and correct me if I'm wrong. Icon to,
- 40:09Speaker 5: I can, icon to, I can.
- 40:10Speaker 4: Yep.
- 40:11Speaker 7: The title is fire.
- 40:13Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you.
- 40:14Speaker 5: Talk about the work that you're doing there and the
- 40:16Speaker 5: origin of it.
- 40:18Speaker 10: Yeah, no, thank you. See, these brothers came relper well,
- 40:20Speaker 10: well well prepared.
- 40:21Speaker 8: Man.
- 40:21Speaker 9: I forgot to even mention that. So I mean we've
- 40:24Speaker 9: done this a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe that, man, y'all,
- 40:28Speaker 9: your reputation precedes you. So we grew up in a
- 40:33Speaker 9: house with a mother that was a successful pediatrician, but
- 40:37Speaker 9: at her core she was a community activist and community advocate,
- 40:41Speaker 9: and so we learned early on, while entrepreneurship and wealth
- 40:47Speaker 9: is all important, but if you're not giving back to
- 40:49Speaker 9: your community, then what are you really leaving behind? And
- 40:51Speaker 9: so we've always moved even before launching our businesses, through
- 40:55Speaker 9: a lens of advocacy. And so the genesis of our
- 40:58Speaker 9: foundation was about ten years ago. We had launched some
- 41:02Speaker 9: mentorship programs back home in San Antonio because we just
- 41:06Speaker 9: saw the need and so we just believed in giving back,
- 41:11Speaker 9: and so Visa through another platform, which is a celebrity
- 41:14Speaker 9: speaker series platform called icon Talks. We were able to
- 41:16Speaker 9: like mobilize community, get celebrities involved to support the foundation work.
- 41:20Speaker 9: But at its core, we wanted to suprive provide mentorship programs,
- 41:24Speaker 9: empowerment program for kids that looked like us, because oftentimes
- 41:28Speaker 9: those kids don't have exposure. And so the genesis was
- 41:30Speaker 9: just innate to who we were as people, just to
- 41:33Speaker 9: understand that too much is given, much is required, and
- 41:35Speaker 9: we believed in the importance to give him back. And
- 41:37Speaker 9: so now our mentorship programs across schools in Texas were
- 41:40Speaker 9: across six schools across the state of Texas, and we
- 41:44Speaker 9: wanted to stay in Texas because that's where we're from
- 41:46Speaker 9: and that's where we saw the need and that's where
- 41:48Speaker 9: we were exposed to the need throughout our whole upbringing.
- 41:51Speaker 9: And so we're super proud of that work. And I'm
- 41:53Speaker 9: sorry I didn't mention that before, but see brother reminded me,
- 41:57Speaker 9: so I appreciate you.
- 41:58Speaker 6: So how are you able to multi to Y know,
- 42:00Speaker 6: as far as having so many different verticals, so many
- 42:03Speaker 6: different businesses, A lot of people burn themselves out or
- 42:08Speaker 6: they spread themselves too thin. So how are you able
- 42:11Speaker 6: to stay on top and make sure that every business
- 42:14Speaker 6: is running optimal?
- 42:16Speaker 9: No, that's a great question. Every day isn't easy. But
- 42:18Speaker 9: I think team, I think team is everything. I think
- 42:22Speaker 9: you can never grow a successful business by yourself. I
- 42:25Speaker 9: think you have to rely on people. You have to
- 42:27Speaker 9: invest in people, and you have to allow people to
- 42:29Speaker 9: do what they do best. And so again I keep
- 42:32Speaker 9: pointing out edge, you're no manager Nanny from HQDC House,
- 42:35Speaker 9: she's the best at what she does and right, so
- 42:37Speaker 9: I think it's a testament to people. I think it's
- 42:39Speaker 9: also a testament to understanding who you are and how
- 42:41Speaker 9: you operate as a business owner. Right, I know what
- 42:43Speaker 9: I do well and I know what I don't do well,
- 42:45Speaker 9: and so staying out the mess of things that you
- 42:48Speaker 9: don't do well, So I think that can ultimate lead
- 42:49Speaker 9: to chaos. And I think again, for us, our journey
- 42:53Speaker 9: has been very pragmatic, very practical, very intentional, based upon needs,
- 43:00Speaker 9: and so I think that's allowed us to grow strategically
- 43:04Speaker 9: without growing in like an elogical way. But again it's
- 43:09Speaker 9: not easy. I mean I always say, man, the level
- 43:13Speaker 9: of decision fatigue guy on a daily basis is freaking massive. Right,
- 43:18Speaker 9: You're making two hundred, three hundred decisions in one day.
- 43:21Speaker 9: You're on calls in Nairobi, then you're at a call
- 43:23Speaker 9: for HQ, then you're doing an event at the White House.
- 43:26Speaker 9: And so the level of kind of multitasking, I'm not
- 43:29Speaker 9: gonna lie, it can be. It can be over taxing
- 43:32Speaker 9: at time. But I think that's when you have to
- 43:34Speaker 9: take a step back, really really focus on your mental health,
- 43:37Speaker 9: really focus on taking time to really reflect, be appreciative,
- 43:42Speaker 9: and then sometimes just say hey, I can't do it today, Bro,
- 43:46Speaker 9: you gotta just take You got to step in for me.
- 43:48Speaker 10: Man, I gotta take a I gotta take a day.
- 43:50Speaker 4: Right.
- 43:50Speaker 10: I think that's okay.
- 43:51Speaker 9: And one of the panelists in the conversation upstairs said
- 43:55Speaker 9: earlier a former football player, Ray Rice from the Baltimore Ravens.
- 43:59Speaker 9: He said he wants his legacy to be that black
- 44:03Speaker 9: men specifically can be vulnerable and say they need help.
- 44:08Speaker 9: And so I think that is what I've taken from
- 44:13Speaker 9: kind of a critical piece for today and the time
- 44:15Speaker 9: moving in my life is just sometimes when it becomes overtaxing,
- 44:18Speaker 9: sometimes when it looks like the world is ending and
- 44:21Speaker 9: you're so overcome with anxiety and so much going on
- 44:24Speaker 9: in so many pieces, take a step back and that
- 44:27Speaker 9: those moments just ask for help.
- 44:29Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to.
- 44:29Speaker 5: As I'm listening to you talk, you know, we always
- 44:32Speaker 5: tend to ask people what's the five to ten year
- 44:34Speaker 5: vision or the goal? Is that your approach or is
- 44:38Speaker 5: it because you're feeling needs?
- 44:40Speaker 7: Is it a day to day thing? Right?
- 44:41Speaker 5: There could be a need that comes up next month.
- 44:44Speaker 5: We have to fulfill that. So in terms of like
- 44:46Speaker 5: people always ask you, have you earned your leisure? Like, nah,
- 44:49Speaker 5: there's still so much to go. How do you approach this?
- 44:52Speaker 5: Is it long term goals or it's need based? As
- 44:56Speaker 5: it comes, we'll approach it and see if we can
- 44:57Speaker 5: take it on.
- 44:58Speaker 10: Yeah, So I think it's a little bit of both.
- 45:00Speaker 4: Right.
- 45:00Speaker 9: So at the micro level, it's we identify gaps and
- 45:04Speaker 9: try to fill them, right, but not be reckless and
- 45:07Speaker 9: kind of not intentional about or strategic about it. But
- 45:11Speaker 9: we pivot daily, which you have to pivot, right, But
- 45:14Speaker 9: we are identifying gaps that need to be filled. But
- 45:17Speaker 9: at the macro level, I think we're truly stepping into
- 45:20Speaker 9: our purpose now, and our purpose from like a business
- 45:23Speaker 9: standpoint is really to change the circumstances, the narrative.
- 45:27Speaker 10: And the opportunities for black people around the world.
- 45:30Speaker 9: And so I'm so, so so focused on that purpose
- 45:33Speaker 9: now and that's core to who we are. And so
- 45:37Speaker 9: while a gap might exist that we need to fill,
- 45:39Speaker 9: but if it's not innate to that purpose, we won't
- 45:41Speaker 9: work on that right And so now as we do
- 45:43Speaker 9: work in Africa, we're launching this global network, we see
- 45:45Speaker 9: our vision even clearer, we see our goals even clearer,
- 45:48Speaker 9: but they're so macro. But the micro kind of things
- 45:52Speaker 9: we do on the daily basis, they have to be
- 45:53Speaker 9: moorking towards to micro. But when you say five year,
- 45:56Speaker 9: ten year, fifteen year plan, we've done those exercises, we've
- 46:00Speaker 9: been successful because if we've been able to identify things,
- 46:05Speaker 9: pivot and modify our businesses to support the times that
- 46:10Speaker 9: we're in. I think sometimes, don't get me wrong, KPIs objectives,
- 46:14Speaker 9: all those things are super important goals, but I think
- 46:17Speaker 9: sometimes when you're not looking at the present and too
- 46:19Speaker 9: focused on the future, you can miss things. And so
- 46:22Speaker 9: we want to maintain focus on the future, but also
- 46:24Speaker 9: be actively actively changing things in the president to support
- 46:30Speaker 9: the business.
- 46:31Speaker 4: So my last question is leadership.
- 46:35Speaker 6: How what lessons have you learned and what advice could
- 46:37Speaker 6: you give the entrepreneurs as far as being a leader
- 46:41Speaker 6: and managing people?
- 46:44Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 46:44Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
- 46:47Speaker 9: Generally speaking, the most important not even generally speaking, transparently speaking,
- 46:52Speaker 9: the most important thing about a business are your people.
- 46:57Speaker 9: Without your people, there is no business, right. And so,
- 47:01Speaker 9: how do you create a culture that encourages innovation, that
- 47:06Speaker 9: encourages proactivity, that encourages accountability, that encourages teammanship, that encourages
- 47:13Speaker 9: people working towards kind of one common goal. And I
- 47:18Speaker 9: think a lot of that leadership has come from my brother.
- 47:20Speaker 9: My brother again served the military for thirteen years, and
- 47:23Speaker 9: I think using that framework, those leadership principles from West
- 47:26Speaker 9: Point really have been invaluable. And then also just so
- 47:30Speaker 9: you all know, I come from a military background to
- 47:32Speaker 9: go to military college, but I went to military school
- 47:34Speaker 9: from second to twelfth grade. Ask my mom why she
- 47:37Speaker 9: sent me the military school at second grade. I know
- 47:39Speaker 9: you even do that, but that taught me those principles too,
- 47:42Speaker 9: of like teammanship, of like core value. And so I
- 47:44Speaker 9: think for us, it's investing in people, understanding that culture
- 47:49Speaker 9: is important, and ultimately allowing people to be people.
- 47:52Speaker 10: People make mistakes, right, And then.
- 47:54Speaker 9: Also I think not everybody is the right fit for
- 47:57Speaker 9: your organization, and so I always leave with.
- 48:00Speaker 10: The heart of compassion.
- 48:01Speaker 9: My brother leads with like an iron fist sometimes, and
- 48:03Speaker 9: so I think it's important to have that level of
- 48:05Speaker 9: combination across like the owners, because you can't always be
- 48:09Speaker 9: the heart.
- 48:10Speaker 10: Sometimes you need to be kind of the harder feature
- 48:13Speaker 10: as well.
- 48:14Speaker 5: I'm glad you said the word mistake because on my mind,
- 48:17Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, think about your biggest financial mistake.
- 48:21Speaker 5: Right then, I also want you to think about the
- 48:25Speaker 5: biggest lesson you learned from that mistake.
- 48:29Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great question. Our biggest financial mistake?
- 48:36Speaker 10: Wow?
- 48:36Speaker 9: Okay, so I think our biggest financial mistake and this
- 48:39Speaker 9: is something recent. I'm not going to obviously mention the
- 48:42Speaker 9: names specifically, but it was entering into and this sounds
- 48:47Speaker 9: crazy coming from a lawyer right now, entering into a
- 48:51Speaker 9: partnership with someone that you believed in the nobility of
- 48:56Speaker 9: the mission and of the purpose, but you didn't necessarily
- 48:59Speaker 9: paper it right because you believed it was a bigger
- 49:02Speaker 9: calling and you believe that they were on the same page,
- 49:05Speaker 9: and you believe that it was a common mission that
- 49:07Speaker 9: you all want to do the same thing and make
- 49:08Speaker 9: it work, but you didn't paper the transaction appropriately, so
- 49:11Speaker 9: you put money into it without having the legal eaese
- 49:15Speaker 9: in place, and so that was a horrible decision coming
- 49:19Speaker 9: from a lawyer, but there was guided by who we
- 49:22Speaker 9: thought we were working with and we were doing something
- 49:24Speaker 9: that was noble. But the lesson from that is, even
- 49:29Speaker 9: in the most noble of endeavors, you think this person
- 49:33Speaker 9: was ordained by Jesus Christ himself, you need to paper
- 49:38Speaker 9: these transactions and believe in framing a business like a
- 49:42Speaker 9: business should be framed, and not taking risks of or
- 49:44Speaker 9: unnecessary because ultimately, even in the best of situations, it
- 49:48Speaker 9: can sometimes be the worst.
- 49:51Speaker 4: So no handshake agreements, well no, not a fan of that.
- 49:56Speaker 7: No paper bag ones either.
- 49:58Speaker 9: No man a teen year practitioner to make that mistake
- 50:03Speaker 9: like six months ago.
- 50:04Speaker 10: It's just it's bananas have us to the best of us.
- 50:07Speaker 6: So, okay, you're a trained lawyer, right, that doesn't always
- 50:12Speaker 6: relate to entrepreneurship. A lot of times that's like being
- 50:15Speaker 6: a doctor. Like you, you're skilled in something, but a
- 50:19Speaker 6: lot of times that doesn't mean that you're going to
- 50:20Speaker 6: be a great business owner. So how did you make
- 50:23Speaker 6: that transition in your mind to be an entrepreneur when
- 50:28Speaker 6: you went to school and you were on the pathway
- 50:31Speaker 6: and just working law.
- 50:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 50:34Speaker 10: No, it's a completely different shift in mindset.
- 50:36Speaker 9: But I think it's also a lot of compromary skill
- 50:38Speaker 9: sets that are applicable to both industries. I think it's
- 50:40Speaker 9: attention of detail. I think it's accountability. I think it's
- 50:43Speaker 9: people skills. I think it's a lot of showmanship. I mean,
- 50:47Speaker 9: to be an entrepreneur, you got to be charismatic, you
- 50:49Speaker 9: got to talk to people, you got to ask people
- 50:51Speaker 9: for things, you got to be genuine, you got to
- 50:53Speaker 9: be connected. And so I think I was a litigator
- 50:55Speaker 9: for the first five years of my practice, and the
- 50:57Speaker 9: theatrics of being in the courtroom teach you that you
- 51:00Speaker 9: have to connect with people on different levels and connect
- 51:03Speaker 9: with different types of people. And so I think a
- 51:05Speaker 9: lot of those skills are very applicable to the entrepreneurship space.
- 51:09Speaker 9: But again, I leaned on my brother from his kind
- 51:15Speaker 9: of corporate experience to bring those corporate chops. I'd never
- 51:18Speaker 9: been in the boardroom. I've been like in a courtroom.
- 51:21Speaker 9: That's different than the boardroom. Right, I had never been
- 51:25Speaker 9: in spaces where big money deals are talked about. But
- 51:28Speaker 9: my brother was the CEO of City Bank, and so
- 51:30Speaker 9: he worked in finance. He knew those spaces and so
- 51:33Speaker 9: and the level of detail he kind of moves with,
- 51:36Speaker 9: and the pragmatism that he moves with. The two kind
- 51:38Speaker 9: of provided that that structure that we needed. And again
- 51:42Speaker 9: talking about complimentary skill sets like I'm the people guy, right,
- 51:46Speaker 9: I knew why I was the people guy.
- 51:48Speaker 7: Right.
- 51:48Speaker 9: I know I can help with BD, I can drive engagement,
- 51:51Speaker 9: I have relationships, and so again, understanding my skills kill
- 51:56Speaker 9: sket understanding Hillski's skill set and making sure that we're
- 51:59Speaker 9: complimenting not only our partnership, but the business was critically important.
- 52:04Speaker 10: And that didn't happen overnight. That didn't help it overnight.
- 52:06Speaker 10: It took time.
- 52:07Speaker 9: It took honest conversations. My mam always says, I talked
- 52:12Speaker 9: to my brother maybe and not even to test this,
- 52:14Speaker 9: maybe nobs twenty five times and not like twenty five minutes,
- 52:19Speaker 9: like twenty five times throughout the day because we're constantly strategizing.
- 52:22Speaker 10: I'm sure you guys are the same, and.
- 52:23Speaker 9: So I think understanding your partner and understanding the business
- 52:27Speaker 9: and ultimately trying to leverage each other's skill sets to
- 52:30Speaker 9: grow the business is important. But it's being accountable and
- 52:33Speaker 9: understanding where gaps exist and continuing to.
- 52:35Speaker 7: Grow absolutely strap it up for that that's really I
- 52:41Speaker 7: want to call.
- 52:42Speaker 5: I want to Raven and Anthony's stand up really quickly.
- 52:45Speaker 5: Could y'all stand up? Can y'all stand up?
- 52:48Speaker 7: Let's grab it up for them?
- 52:51Speaker 5: And John, I want to talk to you about the
- 52:52Speaker 5: time when obviously when we see a well somebody, are
- 52:56Speaker 5: they standing up?
- 52:57Speaker 4: I not.
- 52:57Speaker 5: I want to acknowledge them because well, what we're seeing
- 53:00Speaker 5: here had to sit back down and not yet, and
- 53:03Speaker 5: that's awkward if you give somebody instructions. Oh no, no,
- 53:05Speaker 5: I just want them to stand up because I want
- 53:06Speaker 5: them to be acknowledged in this moment, because what we're
- 53:09Speaker 5: in the midst of is a financial revolution, and we're
- 53:12Speaker 5: seeing it happen at this level. Right, We're seeing a
- 53:16Speaker 5: couple work together, We're seeing them call on black men
- 53:19Speaker 5: to work together.
- 53:20Speaker 7: We're seeing it. But we've also seen been in spaces
- 53:23Speaker 7: where at the highest level we.
- 53:24Speaker 5: Don't see people working together. Right, are wealthiest, orry elite
- 53:28Speaker 5: don't work together as much. I want you to take
- 53:31Speaker 5: a moment. What do you think about the time way
- 53:32Speaker 5: in terms of this financial movement as you see it
- 53:36Speaker 5: as an entrepreneur now in this space? Is this something
- 53:39Speaker 5: and what are the characteristics that we need to keep
- 53:41Speaker 5: to have this going? Thank out the standing.
- 53:44Speaker 10: Yes, definitely around the applause. Thank you guys so much.
- 53:49Speaker 9: I mean, to be honest, we need more people like you,
- 53:52Speaker 9: and you need corporate you and you who are actually
- 53:55Speaker 9: creating spaces for us to come together. I'm so excited
- 53:59Speaker 9: what you guys have done because you created something that's
- 54:02Speaker 9: never been done before.
- 54:03Speaker 10: I think you're creating.
- 54:05Speaker 9: Genuine conversations for people to learn, to gather insights, to
- 54:08Speaker 9: build relationships, to share resources that had never been done
- 54:12Speaker 9: at the scale you guys are doing in our communities.
- 54:14Speaker 9: And so I applaud you all for all the work
- 54:17Speaker 9: that you all are doing. Yeah, I think it's I mean,
- 54:22Speaker 9: it's unbelievable and I know you all probably get the
- 54:25Speaker 9: accolades and people say thank you so much, but I
- 54:27Speaker 9: don't know if you truly realize the impact that you
- 54:31Speaker 9: guys are making around the globe right in providing inspiration
- 54:35Speaker 9: in providing exposure and opportunity for people. That's a reward
- 54:40Speaker 9: that cannot be overstated. So I just want to say
- 54:42Speaker 9: thank you guys, and then likewise to you all. I
- 54:47Speaker 9: think I think about wealth and two different approaches. I think,
- 54:50Speaker 9: obviously you think about wealth and the traditional monetary aspects
- 54:54Speaker 9: of wealth, but I think what you all are doing
- 54:57Speaker 9: is bigger than that. I think you all are approaching
- 55:00Speaker 9: from a mindset, and I think wealth really is a mindset,
- 55:04Speaker 9: and I think the words have been used all day around,
- 55:07Speaker 9: leading from an abundance mindset, leading from a community mindset,
- 55:12Speaker 9: leading from a collective action mindset. But I think ultimately
- 55:15Speaker 9: that all is encompass and leading from like a wealth mindset,
- 55:19Speaker 9: and the wealth mindset is working together, building together, building partnerships.
- 55:24Speaker 10: What I've felt the most joy from.
- 55:26Speaker 9: Today is is the genuine excitement to build together. And
- 55:32Speaker 9: that's something you don't feel very often. And so I
- 55:35Speaker 9: think to be in spaces that we can be in
- 55:39Speaker 9: where we're fostering relationships and growing together, I think that's
- 55:42Speaker 9: going to ultimately rectify some of the situations where folks
- 55:46Speaker 9: are not doing that. I think as we continue to
- 55:48Speaker 9: facilitate community, we continue to hold more events like this
- 55:52Speaker 9: and build relationships. I think that's going to change an
- 55:55Speaker 9: aerative for our people. And so again I applaud both
- 55:58Speaker 9: of you all for doing all the great work you're doing.
- 56:03Speaker 6: What's one last word you can leave, you know, any entrepreneur,
- 56:06Speaker 6: aspiring entrepreneur.
- 56:08Speaker 9: With one last word, And it's a word in kind
- 56:12Speaker 9: of an approach I've always mentioned in every conversation I give.
- 56:16Speaker 10: I say, never stop dreaming.
- 56:19Speaker 4: Right.
- 56:20Speaker 9: As an entrepreneur, you have to be a dreamer. And
- 56:23Speaker 9: I dream a new dream every single day, right, And
- 56:27Speaker 9: I think those dreams can ultimately become goals, they can
- 56:30Speaker 9: become objective, they become things that you ultimately put into motion.
- 56:34Speaker 9: But being a dreamer is critically important to entrepreneurship. And
- 56:37Speaker 9: say never let anybody distinguish or extinguish your dream.
- 56:42Speaker 4: Right.
- 56:43Speaker 9: And so but I think a dream without action will
- 56:46Speaker 9: come without any type of actual come into fruition. So
- 56:50Speaker 9: I think, continue to dream, put action behind it, put
- 56:53Speaker 9: team behind it.
- 56:54Speaker 10: It will all work out.
- 56:55Speaker 4: Make some noise, ladies and gentlemen.
- 56:57Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen appreciate it.
- 56:59Speaker 1: Tom Byrne, an illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping
- 57:03Speaker 1: a child in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from
- 57:07Speaker 1: Al Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan
- 57:11Speaker 1: charged with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These
- 57:15Speaker 1: are just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because
- 57:19Speaker 1: of President Donald J.
- 57:20Speaker 2: Trump's leadership.
- 57:21Speaker 1: I'm Christy Noman, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.
- 57:25Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the
- 57:29Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Have been arrested.
- 57:35Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be
- 57:38Speaker 1: fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported.
- 57:43Speaker 2: You will never return.
- 57:44Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and
- 57:47Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
- 57:50Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now.
- 57:53Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.
- 57:58Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Home Insecurity,