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Ep. 379 - Nope (2022) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to Frightmar's podcast. I'm your host Austin Procter
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  Speaker 4: and joining me today for episode three seventy nine is
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  Speaker 4: my good friend Matt Stokes. How are we today, good man?
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  Speaker 5: How are you to be here? As always?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for joining me today. On another installment
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  Speaker 4: of Melian Invasion, we're discussing our modern pick Nope from
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, a movie that will literally make you
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  Speaker 4: afraid of the clouds, or at least it made me
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  Speaker 4: afraid of the clouds for a little while. So let's
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  Speaker 4: see where this lands on the nightmare index. All right, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so a lot of stuff, A lot of stuff I've watched,
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  Speaker 4: but I always like to kick it over to the guest. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well, by the way. I don't think I
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  Speaker 4: ever answered you, Adhd.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. I was like, what the hell, man, Adhd?
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  Speaker 4: Have you watched anything good in like the past week
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  Speaker 4: or so that you would care to talk about? Or bad?
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  Speaker 4: I always love hearing about a bad movie as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at the old letterbox. I just I.
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  Speaker 1: Watched so much stuff for my podcast for one week
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  Speaker 1: rental everything one week Rental. I watched a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: child's play movies because we did a Chucky movie, saw
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  Speaker 1: Gangs of New York for the first time since I
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  Speaker 1: was a teenager, I really liked it. Sweet did Sweet
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  Speaker 1: Home Alabama starring Reese Witherspoon on the podcast this week,
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  Speaker 1: that was okay, it was it was it was Reese
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  Speaker 1: Witherspoon's charming.
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  Speaker 5: That's my review.
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  Speaker 1: And read reviews from the time, and that's what every
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  Speaker 1: single review said, is like, I mean, this movie could
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  Speaker 1: have been written by AI, but she is so charming.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched Captain America Civil War. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: why I chose to do that, but I gave it
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  Speaker 1: half a star. I truly think it's the worst blockbuster
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  Speaker 1: of the modern era. I think everything bad can be
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  Speaker 1: traced back to that. But we don't have to get
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  Speaker 1: into it. No, I want to get into it. Half
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  Speaker 1: a star for Civil War interest?
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  Speaker 5: What uh?
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  Speaker 4: What about it? I mean half stars? Half stars as
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  Speaker 4: low as you can go. Well, I mean, I guess technically,
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  Speaker 4: if you wanted to, you could just do no rating.
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  Speaker 4: But half star is the lowest you can do. On letters.
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  Speaker 1: Note how it's trying to be a provocateur. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's worse. I think there's worse Marvel movies in that,
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  Speaker 1: like there are worse ones that are more incompetently made
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  Speaker 1: or often it's just like they're not making any decisions
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time, where the studio can't decide on a direction.
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  Speaker 1: So it feels like it feels like you're watching five
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  Speaker 1: different movies that were stitched together. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this one they're making exactly what they want to make,
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  Speaker 1: and it annoys me because they decide every single character
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  Speaker 1: in the movie needs to be an idiot and needs
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  Speaker 1: to not be the same person from scene to scene,
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  Speaker 1: and it has your beloved hero Steve Rodgers being the
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  Speaker 1: dumbest person of all in the movie.
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  Speaker 5: And I can't stand it. I can't stand what they're
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  Speaker 5: doing to this man who.
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  Speaker 4: I like, are you Are you at this point or
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  Speaker 4: are you even excited for Doomsday coming out this year?
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  Speaker 5: Am I excited? No? No, it's homework. It's homework. This
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  Speaker 5: is all homework, rogu, that's homework. It's all just if
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  Speaker 5: I didn't No, I mean, are you excited for for Doomsday.
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  Speaker 4: At this point? It's not so much excitement as it
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  Speaker 4: is just obligation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If I don't see it asap, it's gonna get ruined
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  Speaker 4: for me. Someone's gonna spoil it somewhere. So I'm really
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  Speaker 4: that's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem the movies enjoyment shouldn't hinge on
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  Speaker 1: whether or not I know.
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  Speaker 5: Which, Oh my god, can you believe which cameo? We saw?
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  Speaker 5: There should be a little more.
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  Speaker 4: To it, right, And that's that's the issue is. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I did ruin Spider Man Far from Home for myself
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  Speaker 4: by looking up the cast list, just because I had
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  Speaker 4: to know. And of course I saw who was in it,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, I just just introduce him and
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  Speaker 4: here we go or No Way Home or whatever, whatever
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  Speaker 4: the fuck it was with all the Spider.
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  Speaker 1: Man, the one with so many differences. Yeah, but at
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  Speaker 1: least in that one, it's like there's more, there's more
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  Speaker 1: story mileage you can get out of just seeing the
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  Speaker 1: three Spider Man interact. It isn't just oh wow, dopamine
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  Speaker 1: hit of seeing the actor appear on screen and then
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  Speaker 1: that's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. So yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I was unexpectedly surprised by Thunderbolts. I a hot take
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  Speaker 4: from me on that one. It's my favorite Marvel movie.
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  Speaker 4: I fucking love the Thunderbowl. It's probably because I related
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  Speaker 4: to it on an emotional level through Bob, but it
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  Speaker 4: just felt so different and like they were actually trying
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  Speaker 4: to break the formula and in a way, but I
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  Speaker 4: love Thunderbolts, but yeah, at this point, it's just I'm
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  Speaker 4: watching them to keep up. At this point, I think
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  Speaker 4: I will definitely be dead before they finished the Marvel
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  Speaker 4: Saga universe. And it's probably one of my biggest regrets
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  Speaker 4: is I'll be dead before I actually see the culmination
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  Speaker 4: of it. Just fucking ending.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the whole thing. Though.
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  Speaker 1: It's like like comic books, or it's like a soap opera,
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  Speaker 1: or it's like wrestling, like there's no actual end. They
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  Speaker 1: just keep dangling the you know, you wear a greyhound
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  Speaker 1: running around a track and there's a rabbit in front
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  Speaker 1: of us, and oh, we're gonna get resolution, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like we did, we did. This story ended in twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen Avengers in game. Everyone went to see it, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it was pretty good. I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: world ended and we're all like we're dead, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't know it yet. We're still acting like we're alive.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, oh, there's a new Avengers movie coming out,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't understand.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's over. We're dead.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, how many times have we died at
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  Speaker 4: this point. Let's see two thousand for Y two K,
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  Speaker 4: twenty twelve, twenty twenty. I mean, I think we have
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  Speaker 4: to be in like the fourth alternate version of this
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  Speaker 4: universe at this point, because every couple of years we're
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  Speaker 4: just dying again. It's the state.
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  Speaker 5: The computer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the universe is running out of disk space. It
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  Speaker 1: keeps needing to reboot, it keeps needing to clear its cookies.
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  Speaker 4: Clear that cash on a daily basis of Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe, I mean, maybe we'll get excited, is that
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  Speaker 1: it's still long ways away. Maybe maybe when the movie
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  Speaker 1: comes out, we'll get that old feeling again, which I
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  Speaker 1: did used to get, did I have not. I've not
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  Speaker 1: always been a Marvel hater. I used to be really
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  Speaker 1: enthusiastic about it.
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  Speaker 4: But right right, I mean, I'm with you. And they're
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  Speaker 4: also releasing Dune Part three that day, so step aside, Barbenheimer.
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  Speaker 4: We have Dune's Day coming up. They're gonna change that.
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  Speaker 4: They fucking better. I mean, it's the same audience. If
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  Speaker 4: people like Dune, you you probably like the Avengers movies.
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  Speaker 4: It's a pretty at least with Barbenheimer, those were drastically
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  Speaker 4: different audiences for the most part. Obviously, I was interested
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  Speaker 4: in both, but if it push came to shove, I
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  Speaker 4: was going to see Oppenheimer, so you know, yeah, But anyways, uh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean with Civil War, I would you say, uh uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm truly not trying to be a troll. I think
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  Speaker 1: that that is sort of a turning point where the
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  Speaker 1: movie stopped trying to function as individual movies about real people,
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  Speaker 1: and it just became whatever the individual movie calls for
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  Speaker 1: characters to have to be, that's what they will be.
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  Speaker 5: There will be nothing that actually carries over from movie
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  Speaker 5: to movie.
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  Speaker 4: No, I get you, and and for a second I
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  Speaker 4: did think you were talking about the Winter Soldier. That's
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  Speaker 4: why I was like, wait, half a start. No Civil War,
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  Speaker 4: I under I can totally understand the explanation for that.
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  Speaker 4: That does make a lot of sense, to be quite honest.
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  Speaker 4: So all right, I haven't raised anything that low. Typically,
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  Speaker 4: I did rate something one star though, which we'll get
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  Speaker 4: to watch the new Mortal Kombat two. I was in
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  Speaker 4: the very small section of people who really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 4: first Mortal Kombat. I gave it four out of five.
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  Speaker 4: It has like a two point five average. I love
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  Speaker 4: that one. This one has one hundred percent more Carl
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  Speaker 4: Urban and it was like one. I gave it five stars, No,
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  Speaker 4: no fucking regrets. Won't be taking comments on it. Mortal
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  Speaker 4: Kombat two was utterly hilarious, gorier than the first one,
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  Speaker 4: had a really interesting story and a pace that didn't
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  Speaker 4: stop for a two hour movie. I want to say,
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  Speaker 4: Mortal Kombat two was fucking awesome. What was my review?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, anything less than five stars just feels like
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  Speaker 4: a crime. So that was my Did you see Mortal
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  Speaker 4: Kombat two by chance?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: But I did see the first one a cup twice.
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  Speaker 1: It was like one of the first movies I saw
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  Speaker 1: back in theaters back in twenty twenty one. Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: it was fine.
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  Speaker 5: I liked it fine. I liked how bloody and rated
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 1: Hearing that they added Carl Urban, it's like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's one of the things that was missing,
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  Speaker 1: is just an.
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  Speaker 5: Actor who popped.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because all of those people felt so anonymous except Kano.
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  Speaker 5: I liked him.
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  Speaker 4: Kino was great. No spoilers for the sequel, but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Carl Urban in this movie, not all he is. It's
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  Speaker 4: just he's at his peak right now like he is
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  Speaker 4: Carl Urban is peaking all over the place. He was
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  Speaker 4: so good. He was not the only comic relief as well,
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  Speaker 4: although he was the majority of it. He plays a
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  Speaker 4: washed up actor who gets thrown into Mortal Kombat and
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  Speaker 4: kind of just figures out a way to survive. It
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  Speaker 4: is such a goddamn fun movie. Watched Haunting in Connecticut
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  Speaker 4: for the first time probably since two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 4: Three stars, Like it's enjoyable for what it is, but
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  Speaker 4: it's not a great story. I watched the something called
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  Speaker 4: Oh Spy from twenty fifteen with Melissa McCarthy and Jason Statham.
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  Speaker 5: That's a great, great movie.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great movie. Is so goddamn funny. I was
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  Speaker 4: not expecting it. Oh in Rose Byrne playing a villain.
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  Speaker 4: Jude Laws in it as well. Alison Janney's in it.
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  Speaker 4: It was hysterical. The kid was asleep and I had
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  Speaker 4: to just like cry laugh into a pillow because it
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  Speaker 4: was so goddamn funny. Four stars for that one.
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  Speaker 5: There should be a.
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  Speaker 1: Spy coming out every week at movie theaters. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense. Everyone loves that movie. There used to be
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  Speaker 1: just a new comedy like that or just movie star
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  Speaker 1: driven movie like that coming out every week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I need And I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: hate I'm Melissa McCarthy. I do genuinely like her. I
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  Speaker 4: think she's pretty pretty fucking funny ever since Bridemaids. I
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: think that was the first thing I saw her, and
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: I enjoy watching her. She just has this doofy mom
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  Speaker 4: energy that I'm completely here for. And then watched White
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: Zombie from nineteen thirty two below Lagosi, what a fucking film.
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: Film masters restoration on That Bad Boy. Three and a
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  Speaker 4: half stars. Could definitely see that going up with a
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  Speaker 4: rewatch something called The Ugly from it says this last year,
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: but for us in the States it was this year.
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  Speaker 4: Directed by the same guy who did Train to busan
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  Speaker 4: very very good mystery thriller with a gut punch ending,
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  Speaker 4: so just be prepared. Four stars for That Bad Boy,
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: and then another that was sent over from AV Entertainment
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: as well as White Zombie, and then the last one
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  Speaker 4: sent over from AV Entertainment was No One Will Hear
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: You Scream? And this is a slasher movie based around
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety World Cup that's set in that was
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: in Italy, but these people are in Buenos Airis because
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: Argentina is part of the nineteen ninety nine FIFA World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: Very interesting backdrop, very punk grunge, but also had jallo vibes.
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  Speaker 4: Highly recommend four out of five. If you can watch
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: that anywhere. I think it's on TB or if I'm
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  Speaker 4: not mistaken, highly recommend that. And then the cult movie
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: challenge is two more and then I'll shout the fuck
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  Speaker 4: up cult movie challenges. I have to catch up on.
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  Speaker 4: From two weeks ago was Hell's Trap for Exploitation Week
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  Speaker 4: Mexican Exploitation. Just listen to the not the review, excuse me,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: just listen to the synopsis because it is the wildest synopsis.
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  Speaker 4: Seven young people go to a desolate forest looking for
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  Speaker 4: a bear. What they don't know is that a crazy
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  Speaker 4: Vietnam vet lives there and he is waiting for fresh blood.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. That's all I'm gonna do. He also has
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  Speaker 4: Freddy Krueger hands. I don't know if you can see
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  Speaker 4: the image there, it's kind of he's got Freddy Krueger hands.
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  Speaker 1: And no, yeah, I like that idea. Now you said
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  Speaker 1: this is exploitation, Yeah, yeah, comes to us from Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: It caught this one is let's see releases, Yes, Mexico
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  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so so presumably this is an American Vietnam psychopath, right, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was wondering that as well, because I thought
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  Speaker 4: to myself, I don't think Mexico participated in the Vietnam War. No,
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  Speaker 4: it was someone from America that I guess. She just
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  Speaker 4: went to Mexico to live in the woods, and he's
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  Speaker 4: apparently deranged from what happened in Vietnam. It all doesn't
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  Speaker 4: make sense.
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  Speaker 5: That sounds lovely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea of a Vietnam that going in
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  Speaker 1: sane in the woods. But more than that, I love
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  Speaker 1: that seventy people are like, we gotta go check out
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  Speaker 1: this bear.
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  Speaker 5: You got this bear.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave the context out of it just because
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  Speaker 4: why they're going to search for this bear is just
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  Speaker 4: it's just so ridiculous. Uh. And then this week for
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  Speaker 4: the CMC Challenge was Julias Strain week. No idea who
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  Speaker 4: she or sorry, Julie Strain, no idea who she was?
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  Speaker 4: But apparently she is dubbed the Queen of Bee Movies,
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: which seems odd because I love b movies. Don't know
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  Speaker 4: who she is. But also I don't know everyone. This
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  Speaker 4: was a waste of time. I'm just gonna say it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't usually I try not to speak ill of movies.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I try to find something redeeming about each Like each
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: movie I watch, this was just a waste of time.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: It was trying to be this art house experimentational experimentation film.
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  Speaker 4: But also it's got this green screen hellscape go on
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  Speaker 4: in the background with a plot that is so nonsensical.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know how this got made into a movie.
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  Speaker 4: This isn't even a B movie. Okay, this is like
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: C class movie. It's it's like a home video that
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  Speaker 4: I It's called Purgatory Blues. My god, it's a simple
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  Speaker 4: concept when you read it, and I'm gonna leave it
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  Speaker 4: anonymous for anybody listening, obviously, Matt, if you want to
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: look it up, check it out. I'll leave it anonymous
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  Speaker 4: for anybody who wants to go read the synopsis. It
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  Speaker 4: is very straightforward, and my god, do they dilute a
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: very simple description very quickly in this movie. So one
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  Speaker 4: star for that one. That's the lowest I've rated anything
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  Speaker 4: in quite some time. So that one is on tub
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  Speaker 4: and there was only like four ads through the whole movie,
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  Speaker 4: so it didn't stretch it out longer than it needed
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  Speaker 4: to be, which was great. But I can't recommend that one.
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  Speaker 4: No offense to Julie Strain. She was good in it,
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  Speaker 4: but she also did appear her first appearance in the film.
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  Speaker 4: She was just naked and I was like, this is
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  Speaker 4: my first impression of you.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, she was a very very sexy lady. But she was.
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  Speaker 5: She was.
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  Speaker 4: She was in real movies, Yeah, she was. She was,
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  Speaker 4: to be fair.
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  Speaker 1: She was in the great Steven Sagolla movie Out for Justice,
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  Speaker 1: an absolute classic. He's a he's an Italian guy, like
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Thha'm Italian. I need to get justice in these streets.
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  Speaker 4: And he's She was in Beverly Hills Cop three, Double Impact,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: The Doors Repossessed, which is a horrible but fun movie
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  Speaker 4: starring Linda Blair being possessed, but it's it's it's very
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: like Exorcist coded obviously, and Liam Neese, Liam Neeson Leslie
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  Speaker 4: Nielsen is in it. Uh So, Yeah, she's been in
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  Speaker 4: real movies, but a lot of the titles were things
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  Speaker 4: like sex Court the Movie or Fucking Bikini Beach and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, this is why I haven't heard
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  Speaker 4: of her. This is a different grade of B movies
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  Speaker 4: that are just not my thing. So yeah, not a
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  Speaker 4: fan of this one. There were some cool POV shots,
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  Speaker 4: I'll give it that. There's one thing I liked. There
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: we go. They had some fun little POV shots here
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: and there. Other than that, though, woo man, it was rough.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: There is definitely an audience for this. It's not me
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: So unless you have anything further to discuss on what
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: you've watched, we can move on here.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: No, let's let's talk about Nope.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Nope, all right. Here is the body counts,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: and now my notes app just wants to fuck off,
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  Speaker 4: go away, all right. So this is Nope from twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty two, released on July twenty second of that year
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  Speaker 4: in the US. It is rated R for language throughout
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  Speaker 4: and some bloody violence, bloody images, no sex in nudery,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: neudery nudity, moderate violence and gore, severe profanity, mild alcohol,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: drugs and smoking, and severe frightening and intense scenes. Coming
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  Speaker 4: in at two hours ten minutes. Listed as a horror
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: mystery size thriller directed by Jordan Peel, Everyone should know
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: him from Key and Peel, but he also directed get
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Out in US. He also wrote this movie, and he
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: wrote the two movies I just mentioned, composed by Michael Abels.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: He also composed get Out in US No Shock There
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: cinematography by Hoyt van Houdem. If that name sounds familiar,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: it's because we just talked about him on Let the
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Right One In. But he also did a lot of
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: work with Christopher Nolan in including Interstellar and Oppenheimer edited
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: by Nicholas Monsieur, who also edited US. We've got Daniel
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Caluja starring in this as oj Haywood. He was also
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: in get Out as Chris Washington, Keiky Palmer as Emerald Heywood,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: who I didn't realize does a lot of work in TV,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: but she was also in Hustlers as Mercedes Brandon Piria
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: as Angel Taurus. He was in Twisters Plural as Boone,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: and then Michael Wincott as Antler's Holst. Not only an
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: incredible name, but you might know him from The Crow
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: as Top Dollar, and then Steven Yen as Ricky Jukee
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Park probably most recognizable from The Walking Dead as Glen.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Estimated budget of sixty eight million dollars, grossing one hundred
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: and seventy one point two filmed in Los Angeles, Acton
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: and Agua Dulce, California. Nothing makes me happier when they
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: say the name of a town in a movie and
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: they're actually in that town filming ten out of ten on, Matt,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: you can watch this on Peacock. Movies that came out
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: around the same time we have Bullet Train, thor Love
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: and Thunder. I cannot believe it's been four years since
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: that movie, or Pray or Fall or Day Shift or Orphan,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: First Kill, skinn A Marink, they them glorious and the Leech.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I AMDB summary. Here the residents of a lonely gulch
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: in Inland, California bear witness to an uncanny and chilling phenomenon.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: This is the autopsy, all right, Matt. Have you seen
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: this before?
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Yep?
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna state that for the record. Did you see
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: this in theaters? By chance?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I did?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Very nice? All right? So overall thoughts on Nope, What
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: do you got for me?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think that Jordan Peel thought the cinematographers I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: spending a lot of time with they're fucking crazy and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: they worship the sun. When I'm gonna make a movie
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: about that, it's there. It's the rare movie that features
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a cinematographer as a major character. And he's like, I know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: we just accomplished our goal, but the light.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Looks really good. I gotta go capture it with my camera.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: That was such a peak moment when he's like, it's
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: basically about to be Golden Hour right now, Like this
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: is the Martini shot. I have to get it right now.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: These are really weird.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I've been I've been slowly making my way through Roger
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Deakins's book, and it's like, yeah, they all worship the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: sun as a god. They're they're like, they're like pagans
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the light. Yeah, like Jordan Peel a lot Us is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: probably my favorite horror movie of the last ten years,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and I get out a lot as well. I remember
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: seeing this in theaters and being just the slightest bit disappointed,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: thinking this was a step down for I don't even
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: remember why it is that I thought that. I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that it's like, uh, it's pleasures are more buried than
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: those two movies. Those are I think those movies are
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a little more straightforward.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Now I watch it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: This is the second time I've watched it, and I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: think I was a stupid idiot. This is a goddamn masterpiece.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I love it. Say yep to Nope. Yes that's what.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I put that on a T shirt and sell that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I feel the same way about this movie. I remember
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: seeing get Out in theaters very underwhelmed by it, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I was also God, that was ten years ago. At
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: this point I was a completely different person, and then
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: same thing happened with us, right. I came out of
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: that movie being like, Ugh, that movie, wasn't there great either?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: What's all this hype about? Rewatched both of those before Nope,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: probably like the week before, and I was like, oh no,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: these are brilliant films. And going into Nope, I just
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: since I had them fresh in my head. Going into Nope,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, now I kind of know what
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: to expect, and when you get the reveal of what
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the alien actually is, I cannot tell you. My brain exploded.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is the why, Like, how long
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: have aliens been around? And this is the first movie
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: to do this. That's insane. So I came out of
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the theater actually loving it. Funny enough, because it just
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I was just stunned by the cinematography. The UFO itself
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: was just haunting. I don't even know how to describe it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: It was too quiet in some moments, and it would
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: just lurch past the screen, And every time I saw
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: it on this watch, I'm just like, ooh, like I
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: just gassed. Even though I've seen it, this is my
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: third time. I was just like, Oh, that UFO. I
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: love it. So I think this is a goddamn masterpiece
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: as well, and especially after this watch, I think it
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: might be might be my favorite horror movie of the
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: twenty twenties so far, which is a pretty yeah. Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that's kind of where I'm at with it. Like I
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: was after the credits rolled, I was like, God, damn,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: that was really good.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I think that people's people's negative reaction, or just at
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: least a strong reaction to it is there is something
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a little like, uh, it just doesn't go down very smooth,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: especially the way it get out did and and us
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, I don't know, it's it's it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to process, a lot to chew on,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and uh, some people don't have the patience for that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But you even then there's sex sections of the movie
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that are just such incredible straightforward horror filmmaking, like him
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: going into the you know, the barn or the arena
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's called, and there's a little kids dressed
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: up as aliens, but you don't know that it's little
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: kids dressed up as aliens, and it's shot so incredibly
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like with one of the alien guys just in the frame,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and you don't know that you're looking at it and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: nothing changes in the frame. Here I just notices it,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and you're like, what the fuck is that? Why is
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it moving like that? And it's just a fucking person
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: in a costume. So he's like he is one of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the best at just the nuts and bolts of horror filmmaking,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and maybe by frustrated people because otherwise the movie's not
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that interested in making a just a straightforward horror movie.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Well, and also my opinion on this whole because I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: very tired of the term elevated horror. I really think
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that that term is just created by people who don't
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: like horror movies that make them think that's really all
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: elevated horror is. It's horror that makes you use your brain.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: It makes you think, it makes you question. Nope, is
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: a lot of that in this movie, especially with the
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: total fake out that you were just talking about. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: thought there were gonna be little green men, well whatever,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: little gray men. Little gray men appear and then it's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: just fucking kids and I was like, oh, okay, so
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: are we gonna see aliens later? And then of course,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: you know, bearing the lead early because we go into spoilers.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: The ship is the alien, like, holy shit. So there's
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: not a lot of straightforward horror. It's more of this
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: looming presence that is hovering over you at any given point,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: that could attack at any given point. It's just this
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: dread that lingers throughout the entire film for me, and
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: that's what works for me. Of course that's not gonna
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: work for everyone out there.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I would say the genre actually
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is it's a Western. Not only does it have so
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: much Western iconography, but it is dealing with classic Western
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: themes of like we're trying to tame a world that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: we have no and we tell ourselves we have control,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and we have no control.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: We have so little.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Control, and we're basically little stupid animals in the universe. Trying,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: trying everything we can, so you convince ourselves we can
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: control things, we can control nature.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're totally right. I mean, Nope, somehow manages
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: to be a UFO film, a creature feature, a satire
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: of Hollywood, a Western, and, in my opinion, one of
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the smartest horror movies of the twenty twenties. It none
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: of that makes sense on how did you How do
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: you mesh all of those genres together? Nope, that's how
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: you do it. Peals just I would love to live
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: in his head for a day and just see how
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: he thinks, because all of those different genres don't make
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: sense on paper to me, and he mixes them all flawlessly.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's it's it's incredible how he's able
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: to bring so much into a movie that is layered,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: But I don't really find it dense. At the same time,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: it's what's the word I'm looking for? I guess layered
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is just the perfect word for it, because it's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot to chew on, but it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: not so much that I'm like, I don't understand what's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: happening here.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ideas and a lot of threads
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you can pull at. When I first saw the movie,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is me and my wife got
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in an argument about the movie about what it meant.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Afterward.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're wrong. It's about nature. It's about
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: how we don't understand nature and we're bugs in the universe.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And this time I think like, that's that's it. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I think more it's about media, and not the media,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: but just media or maybe images that we use images
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to try to understand the world, but images actually just
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: distort the world. And the quest they're on in this
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: movie to get proof of whatever they are seeing, they
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: are under the under that they're under the delusion that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: this will mean anything.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Right, it won't. It won't mean anything.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: If it's not going to convince anybody of anything, nobody's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: gonna understand the truth.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Nobody there there.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: We don't live in a world where everybody can see
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the same thing as one people and understand it the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: same way if if we ever lived in that world,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: we certainly don't live in that world anymore.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: No, you're one hundred percent right. I agree with that point,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: because to me, the biggest theme of this movie is
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: uh exploitation not just in Hollywood, but in culture entertainment,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: because everyone in this movie is trying to capture something,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: whether it's profit, whether it's control. OJ and Emerald they
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: want the impossible shot. Jupe wants to monetize this alien
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: coming to eat all these horses. The cinematographer also wants
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: that perfect image. He's he gives his life for it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Everyone is chasing spectacle in this movie for different reasons,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't work out for anybody except for Emeralds.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I say work out. The only people to not be
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: consumed by this thing are Emerald, OJ and they're a
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: little it helper buddy I can't remember his name, Yeah, Angel.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: So everything is about spectacle in this and you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: like the movie repeatedly ask asks what happens when our
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: desire to witness something overrides our basic survival instinct? Because
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: everyone puts their survival instinct. I mean, I'd say OJ
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: is probably the most level headed with that, because there's
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: times when he figures out that, oh, if you don't
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: look it in the eye, that it won't attack you.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So he just sits in his car on night He's like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: fuck this. But a lot of people put themselves you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: their basic survival instinct out the window in this movie completely.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: He's the one who's closest to nature.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: He literally works with horses, right, And you know one
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: thing that happens in modernity is we drift further and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: further away from nature. Media is a big part of that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: The word media is literally like mediates puts a layer
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: of separation between us and the thing we're looking at,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: so things like survival instincts go away, and instead the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: instinct becomes I have to capture this and document it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And you can see people behaving that way all the time.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I follow all these accounts that complain about music festivals
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: how the crowds at music festivals are terrible now because
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: nobody sings or dances.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: They just hold up their phones to record.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And the thing with the recordings is like, you're never
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: ever going to watch what you're recording. Have you ever
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: recorded a concert and gone back and watched it? Why
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: would you?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: No?
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: But like we don't live anymore, we don't do that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I'm guilty of that. I used to go to festivals
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: a lot, and I would take videos to put on
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: my Snapchat story, and that's really about it. I would
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: record every now and again. But after a couple of years,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not watching these and they're just taking
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: up space on my phone. So I stopped doing that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: But you're right, we're so obsessed with catching the moment
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: on a phone or something that we're not actually living
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: in the moment and enjoying that moment. We're relying on
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: this recording we're never gonna watch to. I don't get
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the point go to the conference.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: To show other people I was there, I am a
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: lot and I lived. That doesn't matter.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: That's why when I saw shit and this was oh
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: my god, fourteen years ago in twenty twelve, when I
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: saw a tool at the UFC or you see f arena,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: they had a no phones rule. I mean I did
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: break that a couple of times because I'm like, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: don't know what I'm ever going to see them again.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: And I do legitimately go back and watch those because
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: it's one of my favorite bands. Only seen them once.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: But I like it when an artist is like, hey,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: no phones, like Maynor.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: James Keenan is throwing up right now listening to you
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: say that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Oh I know, I know, he's probably so so upset
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: with me, But yeah, I totally get what you mean.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: It's just everyone in this day and age is so
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: it just they wanted wanting to capture it and wanting
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: to get something more that because even then if you
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: capture it, no one's gonna believe you.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They keep talking about how we need to get the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Oprah shot, and they're talking about Oprah as like this
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: standard of the Oprah determines reality, and like one of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Oprah's and during legacies is spreading all kinds of bogus
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: information about fat diets and pseudoscience and alternative medicine. She's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the reason doctor Oz is of public figure is because
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: of her. So it's like she's there's no, there's no uh,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: she's She's just as responsible for, you know, breaking reality
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: in the media as anybody.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I always wondered why they kept saying we got to
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: get the Oprah shot. I was like, does she even
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: cover UFO? She doesn't have a show anymore. Yeah, I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: pretty sure by twenty twenty two she was done. Uh so. Yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: But I do love their their camaraderie because the two
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: of them are just completely different. You know, you have
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Ojay is very shy and quiet and reserved an. Emerald
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: is the just complete opposite of OJ, and I like
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: their Like I said, I like their camaraderie because towards
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: you know, once the movie keeps going and going, OJ
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: starts to come out of his shell a little bit
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: more and you start to see more emotion from him.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: But you also have to remember he's still reeling from
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: the death of his father. I forgot Keith David was
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: in this because he's literally in it for five minutes
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: before he gets struck in the head by a nickel
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: and then dies like Jesus Christ. So he's still reeling
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: from that. And they don't really give you much abo
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: about Emerald's backstory with the ranch and her father. But
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I got the impression that she wasn't around as much
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: because she was doing other things. I don't know, how
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: do you feel about her relationship with kind of the family.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That she is exactly what you said, but she does
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: not feel this attachment to the She does feel it,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't feel it as personally as OJ. Or
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: maybe she does feel it as personally as OJ, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: thinks he is a little deluded to be so attached
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and she's trying to create something else. For herself that
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: is attached from like this ancestral uh thing that that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that they're an important part of Hollywood history, this family
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that they're their great great great grandfather was the first
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: subject ever captured an emotion picture. And then you know
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: their father, who Keith David seems too old to be
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: their father, but he was their father, and he is
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like he seemed to have Hollywood figured out. I do
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: love this idea of like California's in California, it's the West.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: This used to all be horses and stuff, and we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: still have it around, but we have it to like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: simulate the old world. We have it to put it
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: in movies, and then we have Stephen Jun's like little
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like Western stunt show place we recreate the past as
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: kitsch and Daniel Kluy is like trying to hold on
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to that and be and you know, respect, respect the horses,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: respect the traditions. This is an animal with its own will.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And I love the opening sequence with him at the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: sound stage of everybody being like yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I hear it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: It's really important what you're saying.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Let's get on with it, let's get let's get the shot.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I think the first time I saw the movie, I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: was also Keith David's like one of my favorite actors.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: When he dies within thirty seconds, I felt ripped off.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But it's like, you need Keith David to play this
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: figure who has to lurk over the rest of the movie.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You can't put You have to put an actor with
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of gravitas, even if they're only going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: be in two scenes, so that you get why his
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: death means so much to everything.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I totally agree with that. You're right because without him
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you don't have the anchor that OJ was attached to
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: because obviously his dad, I'm sure was probably his best friend. Again,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: we don't get a lot of backstory, but you have
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: to assume from his actions afterwards that he clearly is
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: distraught over the loss of his father, and Keith David
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: is a commanding presence. Total sidebar. I forgot to say
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: from the corrections department it was Ken Foray that I
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: always confuse with Keith David. They don't even look alike.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: They're just very prominent actors in horror in the eighties
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: and nineties. Anyways, Yeah, so I feel like Keith David
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: is this weird anchor to the movie, even though he's
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: only in it for a few minutes. But it's because
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: he makes that scene with what the five or six
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: lines of dialogue so impactful and you just kind of
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: feel his presence there even though he's not there for
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: the movie.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I think Keith David, No, I think Daniel Klulia is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: doing a Keith David impression in the movie. His voice
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was his voice sounds a lot like Keith David. Now
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: if you hear David Kalle's real voice, he's like, oh,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Colulia. Oh I but yeah, he I mean
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: much deeper than that. But he he really found like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: he's trying to mimic Keith David's very specific voice.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Now that you say that, yeah he does. He does
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: seem to have I didn't notice that at all. But yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: he's very very reserved and very just calm about things.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: But damn it, now you're you're totally right. You're making
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: me rethink about all of that stuff. He does seem
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: to be kind of doing. Uh, his version of of
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Keith David.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Between Colula and and and what's his name and and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Michael Wincott, like the sound editor, have a lot had
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: his work cut out for him just to just to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: hear these people speak, like, sorry, what's that?
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: What's that? Gotta really crank up the volume on both
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Can you please turn you know, you gotta speak louder.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Fucking Antler's Antler's Holst is one of the coolest names.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's as cool as top Dollar. I don't
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: know where Antler's Holst came from, but it is such
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: a fucking cool name. And Michael Wincott and this is great.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: And I love his involvement in this movie as well,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: because they go to him immediately as he was the
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: cinematographer or DP for that shoot that they were doing
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of the film. And I find it
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: fascinating that he is clearly a believer and he was,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: you know, he's it's something that he's chased his entire life. Clearly,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: he gave his life for it. And when he hears
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: that news report about all the people going missing at
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Jupiter's Park or whatever it is, that's when he gets
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: involved and and and starts to be like, all right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: let's let's figure this out. Let's make a plan. So
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I love how he was just like, don't chase that
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: dream kid, You'll never get it too. I'm gonna just
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: take I'm just I'm going up the UFO and I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: gonna use this camera that doesn't use electricity, and I'm
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: gonna get this fucking money shot. And then the camera
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: falls to the ground, and you know, I assume they
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I assume they got the shot, or at least I
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: hope they fucking did. He gave his life for it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: So yeah, but like what and then what everybody? People?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: You watch it on YouTube and you're like, tam, that's cool,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and then you move on with your life.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: That's how desensitized as a culture we are.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: No, but you would be right to what what? How?
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: How the hell?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I want to ask you, like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it one, just aliens in general? You think aliens were real?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Or or more like, what would.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: It take for mankind to accept that there are aliens?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I mean one, yes, it would be, and maybe not
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: aliens in the sense that we're thinking of these little,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: tiny green men, but to think that we are the
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: only intelligent form of life and a galaxy that is
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: literally so big it's impossible to comprehend would be such
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: a ridiculous thoughts. So there has to be something else
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: out there. What was the second one? I'm so sorry,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Oh what would it take? What would it take?
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: There's almost like undeniable proof at this point. There was
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: a few years back where the government released that video
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: footage from a fucking jet that was basically irrefutable evidence
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: of a UFO, and people were just like whatever.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no here, because here's why we have a problem.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Because I hear that, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, of
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: course the government tell If the government tells you that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it's a lie there doing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: That, it's up. It's an up.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Uh, It's it's like JFK assassination. Like they're never going
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to release the document. That's like, yeah, we did it. Sorry, yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I guess that is fair.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I have definitely I had
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: one experience one time. I can't tell you what the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: hell this thing was. And there was three of us there, right.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: We were standing in the driveway smoking cigarette, smoking weed,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: whatever the hell we were doing when we were twenty
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: years old. None of us were on any sort of hallucinogenic.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: It was beer and weed, that was it. And we
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: literally all three of us, saw this bright light rise
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: from the ground, go probably about three hundred feet in
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the air, A ball shot off from the side, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: then it just disappeared into the night. Like so, I
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: don't know what that was. Not a fucking clue, wasn't
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: a firework, wasn't anything. I mean, that's the only experience
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I've had with anything that I couldn't explain. But for
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: mankind to finally accept, I mean, I think we had
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: this movie has to happen or something like that, like
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: something's gonna swoop down from the skies and cause havoc.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: At this point, I think if this happened, it would
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: be just like everything else. It gets ingested and digested
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and half of people believe it, half of people don't.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Or it's like Trump embraces the alien so people who
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: hate Trump or like the aliens aren't real, you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and then it just gets forgotten about immediately and then
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we move on to the next thing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Or it's a total they live scenario where they've just
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: been here the whole time and we're just we're you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: we're not a wake to see them. I don't know
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: the the option the I feel like the options are
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: unlimited for for a alien life out there, But I mean,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: there has to be something. I sure hope it's not
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a something that appears to be a saucer that's just
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: sucking people up off the ground, because that is a
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: horrifying way to go. I'd rather have probes in my
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: butt than be sucked up into a whatever that was.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And actually seeing them inside of this living, breathing creature
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: was the stuff of nightmares. Wasn't expecting to see that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: But I also wasn't expecting the UFO to be a creature.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: That was probably one of the greatest reveals. Uh you know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Fun idea that yeah, it can you can. You can
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: even like see it and be like, oh, that's why
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: we think UFOs look the way they do because we
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: saw this stupid balloon thing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And it's not an alien chip at all. It's an animal.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: It might not even it probably is. This is not
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: intelligent life visiting us. This is just some stupid space
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: animal stumbled upon our planet.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: It's just it's probably been years.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: It's an instinct shu old predatory alien just that looks
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: like a flying saucer and is completely quiet, and the
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: way it flies it's absolutely fucking haunting. This movie so
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I want to circle back around here to the beginning
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: because I noticed, well at least I remembered this time
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: because I wrote it down, that there's a quote at
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: the beginning of this movie. It says, I will cast
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: abominable filth that you make you vile and make you
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: a spectacle. From Nahum three six. This is actually a
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: book in the Bible. Never heard of this book in
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: the Bible. Went to church for most Yeah, nah na
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: h u m. It is a book in the Old Testament.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Literally never heard of it. I went to church for
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: most of my you know, adolescent life, and then tapered
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: off of that. It's just not my thing. So what's interesting, though,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: is that I love the Bible.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: The Bible is like my thing. No, no book, Yes,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Devin's Book of the Minor Prophets of the Hebrew Bible,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: because do you know, like us, has that made up Bible? Yeah, passage.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So I was wondering, is that is that are they
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: doing that thing? They're making you think this is a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: real Bible thing.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: That's exactly why I looked it up, because I remembered
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: the thing from us because and I also didn't recognize
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Nahum or Naham. So I said, Okay, gotta check this out.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: So as you said, the seventh of twelve minor prophets
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: and the author of the Book of Nahem. His book
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: primarily contains prophecies about the destruction of Nineveh, the capital
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: of the oppressive Assyrian Empire. Historically, this message brought comfort
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: and hope to the Israelites by assuring them that their
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: cruel oppressors would face divine justice. Now, how does this
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: relate to hope or hope? How does this relate to nope?
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: The alien, which they dubbed Jane Jacket, becomes a spectacle
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: for Ricky Jukee Park and later the Heywoods. The creature
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: literalizes the verse by raining blood and abominable filth down
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: on the Heywood Ranch. The verse critiques the audience's desire
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: to consume spectacles such as the TMZ Photographer or the
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: televised violence of the Gradies rampage. Juke exploits his own
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: traumatic pass with Gordy to create a new spectacle, ignoring
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: the danger. Nahem is a prophecy about the fall of Nineveh,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: a city of blood that thought it was untouchable. Similarly,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Juke believes he can control an untamable, dangerous predator, resulting
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: in his death and his audience's death, just as the
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: arrogant nin of A fell. The verse sets the stage
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: for the film's bad miracle theme, where unnatural and violent
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: events are spectacles for viewers consumption, mirroring how God makes
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the Sinful City a public example.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: That was a lot to That was a lot to say.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: So it actually ties into the movie in a very
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: interesting way, which I appreciated because I was kind of
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: upset with us not having that be a real Bible verse.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, what are we doing here, Jordan Peele,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: what's going on?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: No?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I love I love making up a Bible verse, cause
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: most people are gonna be like, oh yeah, yeah, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: read that book all the time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I see I love.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I love this this thing of turn get it into
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a spectacle in the stupidest way. It's like a very
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: old idea King Kong. What happened in King King Kong
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty three? What do they do with King Kong? Like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Wow, this changed everything we understand about nature.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Let's put it on stage and come look at it. Everybody,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Come look at it on Broadway, and then you know
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. Oh, we brought dinosaurs back from the dead.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It's a miracle. It's it's the scientific revolution we never
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: thought would true possible. It's a theme park because that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: actually all we can do is a species anymore, is
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: turn things into shows. Stephen Youwan's doing it with his
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: own life. He lived with this insane trauma of being
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a child actor and seeing all these people brutally murdered
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: by a chimp, and he's just monetizing it. Even his
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: co star from the from the show is you can
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: see her like monetizing it because she's wearing like the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the shirt of herself and you can assume she's like
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: doing the con circuit and everything because it's all we
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: can do. It's the only way we can survive.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I find it crazy because that Gordy flashbag
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: is only is terrifying, not not only bec as it
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: feels real in a way a UFO kind of doesn't
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: because there's no music pushing this tension. There's there's no
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: exaggerated horror framing. It's a chimp ripping people to pieces
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: which you don't see. I feel like if they were
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: to show more of it, it probably would have pushed
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: past r and been NC seventeen. But it's interesting how
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: that scene kind of mirrors Jean Jacket. Gordy wasn't evil.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: He was an animal pushed into an environment or an
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: unnatural environment until his instinct took over. So Juke completely
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: misunderstands this lesson. He survives that incident and convinces himself
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: that he has this special connection with Gordy, that he
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: was chosen, and he even he even says that right
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: as he's showing the crowd the horse that he's gonna
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: have the alien to consume. He to himself, he kind
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: of whispers, you were chosen. He's not chosen. He looked
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: he missed that. He missed that. Yeah, it's a real
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: quick as as he as he turns to the crowd,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: or as he turns to the landscape and snaps his
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: fingers and the sheet comes down, he goes, were chosen?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Were like quietly but I had subtitles on because I'm
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: fucking deaf. So that's and it's funny because his arc
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: is cyclical, you know what I mean, Like he does
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: he thinks he has this connection with his animal, goes
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: to do it again, but then he just you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: he gets in this instance, he fucking gets eaten by
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Jean Jacket. So I love that hole because the scene
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: in the beginning is the most what the fuck opening
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: to a movie that I've seen. You have the chimp,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you have a couple other situations, and then it's like, nope, okay,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: let's get some explanation for this. And he tells the
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: story narratively so well by breaking it down into these segments.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: And then finally you get to Gordy, which is kind
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: of in the middle, and then you get that whole
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: scene where they almost bump fists and then the uh
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: the chimp dies. I do have a question about that scene.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: What the fuck is with the shoe? Why is the
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: shoe standing straight up? I cannot figure this one out.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that later in the movie, when Danielkuley
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: goes back to the ranch, and it's a mirror of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: when Joop is the only one alive on the set
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: when he.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Was a kid, okay, and it's just this massacre.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, So later h Daniel clues, you know, going through
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the ranch, and it's a very similar vibe. What happened here,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: this massacre happened here? And there's a pig on the roof,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's like it's just the inexplicable that
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: there there are things about there are things about the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: world that you're not going to know. Why is that
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: shoe just standing the way it's standing? H Did the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: chimp put it there? Did the chimp see that? And
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: that's what set it off? Don't know, You'll never know.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Okay, Yeah, I mean that makes sense
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: because it's it's I don't really need an explanation, but
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, what is that shoe? What the fuck
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: is that shoe doing? But I mean, really, this movie,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: as I is two hours of people just misunderstanding animals.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Except for oj and his horses. He understands them very well.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: But for the most part, uh, no one and everyone
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: thinks they can well, at least Joop does. He thinks
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: he can control these animals that are wild, and.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: He's he's running this insane business that's this really kitchy
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Old West like stunt show and sit theme park that
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: also has a museum to his own career as a
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: child star, and it seems like that's probably where he
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: makes his actual money. Is like these really insane rich
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: people come in for a private tour, so he can,
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: you know, tell them about the trauma he endured, the
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: trauma that he endured that the rest of the world
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: did not experience. They experienced it as an SNL sketch, right, Like.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: They don't know how horrifying it was, and so he
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: can't tell them how horrifying it was because then.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't want to pay him to come come here
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why exactly he tells them the SNL's version
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: of it instead of the real version because trauma for him,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: but also you don't want to hear what actually happened.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: There's no fucking way like this is.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You know, think of like every I mean everybody who
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: attends any horror conventions or any any kind of conventions,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: which I love that that's there for them, But think
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of like Adrian King from the first Friday of the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Thirteenth movie has a Friday the thirteenth line, and I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: think there's other people who will give like Friday the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Thirteenth tours at one of the like Crystal Lake. This
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: this campground student for Crystal Lake for twenty minutes of
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: one movie. Yeah, it's like everybody squeezing as much juice
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: out of out of their own lives and career as
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: they can wherever they can.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially he had that he said what did he say?
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: He had that Dutch couple pay him fifty grand to
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: just stay in that room for the night because there's
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: this weird obsession with this story that everyone doesn't know
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: the full details of. But he's making money off that
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: because he literally says, I usually charged for this, bod
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: here you go, and it's just a shrine to one
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: of the most traumatic events, not just he is experienced,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: but anyone would have ever experienced. I mean, my god,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: watching and watching a chimp go crazy. This movie definitely
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: inspired Primate, though I feel it had to have. That's
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: my little head cannon, is that someone watched this and
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: we're like, you know what, we need a full length
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: feature film of a chimp destroying people. And that's how
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: we got Primate, which came out last year.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So I gotta see that Primate. I keep think, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta. I do love a chimp going nuts and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: murdering people.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: It's honestly really solid.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I know, I don't even know. I don't I don't
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: need to know. Anything about it. Just I'm going to
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: like that movie. I have decided you ever could go
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to a zoo and if you get near a gorilla
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: or something, and by near I mean like fifteen feet away,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you do suddenly feel like, Oh, this thing could this
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: thing could flick.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: Me, and I would be dead. I would be fucking dead.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's something you will not understand if you
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: watch it on a screen, which I think is another
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: thing the movie is dealing with is the way we
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the way media will just distort everything. You look at
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a picture of a gorilla and you don't understand what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: a gorilla is, or you see it you see a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: chimp on TV and you're like, oh, chimps, my beloved friend,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the chimp, and it's a fucking wild animal that's gonna
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: rip off your dick and feed it to you if
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: a balloon pops.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: No, you're right though, because if they did, I mean prime,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: it's a little different. But if they did show it
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: in this it wouldn't have been. They showed just enough
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: of it, I think because as the story, as the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: movie goes on, you see a little bit more and
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: a little bit more, and the most you see is
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: the lady's feet be on the couch and him smashing
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: her face, and then he chases the one guy off
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: the set and smashes his face as well. Because people
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: don't realize. And this has weirdly come up a few
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: times this year on the podcast, probably because Primate came
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: out this year. Chimps are just like so much muscle
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: they are. They're all muscle, and they will literally rip
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: you limb from limb if if they're provoked to a
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: certain point. So that's what I don't think people actually
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: understand is these things are stronger than you could ever imagine.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: And that's why I would never want one as a pet,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: just in case it decided to go crazy and then
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: rip my deck often feed it to me. I'd rather
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: not do. That's all.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I still want one. I still want We just did.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: We just did the movie Showgirls on our podcast a
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and there's just chimps in that movie.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: That's part of this stage show. They just have these
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: adorable baby chimps, and it was just ubiquitous part of culture, like, oh, chimps,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: our friends. They're so they're so kind and sweet, and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you don't understand that if you were seeing it on screen.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: That means that there were well trained animal wranglers who
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: ensured that everything went very, very smoothly correct on set.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And that gives you the idea that, ah, the chimp
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: can be tamed, the chimp can live with me as
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: my baby.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: No it can't.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: It's gonna murder you unless you unless you raised it
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: from a baby and it's been around people. It's whole life.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: If you just take a chimp from the while, and
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: it's going to rip everything that you love apart. So yes,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I very much agree on that. And even in the
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: cig Monkey, it's aged a little bit, but it doesn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: look terrible. I don't think.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: It sort of bugged me, and I mean, I mean,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I know, you can't put chimps in movies anymore, so
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: it sucks, but.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Hey, you know they the primate is a guy in
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: a suit, and I fucking appreciate the hell out of that.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: No cg in that movie. But for the purposes of
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: you know, nope, I totally you had a sixty eight
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: million dollar budget, just fucking use it. No need to
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: throw a guy in a suit. But I like the
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: way they kind of hid this. Some of the seage
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: with the little tablecloth that was coming over the side,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: so they were able to kind of hide some of
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: it and blur it. But even they the UFO still
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: looks really great. I mean, I know it's only a
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: four year old movie, but still I think the UFO
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: looks fantastic. It is also hidden in the clouds a lot,
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: and then even at the scene at the end where
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: it expands and does this, which I don't I don't
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: know why did that. Do we have any speculation as
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: to why it puffed up like a jellyfish?
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about. I mean, it could be, it
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: could be it feels that these people are actually a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: threat to it, and so like a you know, like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a king Kobra like standing up, and Okay, it could
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: be that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: But I just fucking love the I love the design
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: of this thing.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I love the idea that an alien is just a stupid,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: big jellyfish.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: The praying mantis that appears in the you know, in
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the security camera. And thing about praying mantises and all
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: kinds of animals is if you look them up really close,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: you realize this is an alien. I live on the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: earth with lots of little aliens like jellyfish. They're ridiculous.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't exist. Why do they exist? Just little are insane?
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, So I think this movie just it
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: does hen It's just it really is a spectacle. And
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: it's funny that the whole commentary really is about spectacle.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: And I think this is Jordan Peel's. This is his
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: spectacle because it is something to witness. It has horror
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: moments in it, It has the overlying dread of this
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: alien creature you don't know anything about. I mean, they
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: don't even reveal the fact that it is a living,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: breathing thing until about an hour I think it was
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: like an hour fifteen, so you got about fifty minutes left.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: You don't even know that. And then once that reveal happens.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know about anybody else, are you, but just
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: like that heightened my anxiety so much because I was like, oh,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: they're not just beaming people up. This thing is swooping
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: down and just eating the people or in a lot
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: of the cases, leaving them in their screaming. I don't
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: know what that was. He waited sometimes, or the thing
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: waited to eat for quite some time, because you could
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: every time it swoop past. You could just hear all
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: these screams of people, and I was like, that is
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the stuff of nightmares. I don't ever want to be
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: stuck in there. So I don't know why it waited
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: so long to eat the people. Maybe it was just
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: part of the digestion. Maybe the digestion takes a little bit.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: No, I think that's it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You know, why does like a why does a python
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: swallow an animal hole and the animal like gets dissolved
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: with stomach acid. I don't know that's eaten.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you though. That scene it's I think the
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: most impactful scene for me is when Steven Jupe realizes
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: he fucked up because the alien shows up early. He's like, oh,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: we're early. Usually this is like six thirty every night
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: or every Friday. Yet it's early because there's forty fucking
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: people there, and that shit is hungry. It sees it
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: sees an opportunity, and it's like, I'm taking all you bitches.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: And the funniest part it leaves the horse. I found
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: that to be hilarious. It's like I don't want to
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want the horse. I want all of you
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: fucker's over here. So I love the crowd at that place.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: It's so sad, and they are there treating it like
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: it's a packed house. And they had his wife on
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: the phone like, Hey, I was reaching out, Maybe you
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: want of these free press passes. Yeah, the press wants
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: to come ten You're a tenure.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: They want to attend the press this show as much
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: as they want to attend my podcast.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Record my podcast please.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So what about you? Is there is there a
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: scene in particular that really just uh had a had
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: an impact on you.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: The first time I see Keith David on a horse,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my my my three favorite things
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: in a movie. A person on a horse, the person
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: on a horse in front of a hill, and the
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: person is Keith David.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: You got all three perfect.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: And then the last shot of the movie is now
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: it's Daniel Caluya on the horse looking like a goddamn
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: hero and movie star. And I was just like, because
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I am, you know, I'm getting older and like all
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: all dads who reach their late thirties but get really
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: into Westerns and all I want all movies to be Westerns.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: I want everybody to be on a horse. That's all
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I want. I think I'm getting to that point now,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I really am. I'm thirty six now, and it's like
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I can feel it. It's like looming in the background.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Because my buddy loves westerns and there's a podcast on
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Someone's Favorite Someone's Favorite Productions that's called Tumbleweeds and TV
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Cowboys and it's all Westerns. And I'm like, I feel
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: like my future is imminent and I should just embrace it.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Now, embrace it. Slip, slip into the bathtub. The water's good.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Close your eyes. No, Western westerns are great, but they
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: never actually went away. It's just like the things that
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I think a couple things Hollywood. In the early days
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: of Hollywood, westerns were how you could have an action movie,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and I really think that's a big part of it
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: is that's the only genre where there was action. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: then they realized, oh, we could have action in other genres.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be in the Old West. But
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: for some reason, it was like forty years where they
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: thought that was the only way you could show people
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: like getting into a fight is if it's in the
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: oldest But there is just something so in so like
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: American about the idea of like the Gunslinger and you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: see it in so many movies that aren't Westerns. I
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: think it's why John Wick and like Nobody with Bob
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: oden Kirk, and like every Denzel Washington movie is it
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: really does just follow the Western tradition of like a
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: man with a mysterious past, some guys messed with him,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: they messed with.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: The wrong guy. Now he's gonna get revenge, and that's
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: just the Western.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: You're not wrong. It feels like some it feels like
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of things have taken the Western formula and
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: just kind of reapplied it to a modorio for a
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: modern audience. You know. I mean, I guess John Wick
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: would be a pretty good example of that. So yeah,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: I feel it. I feel it's it's it's definitely happening.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: It's on its way. So I'm gonna have to but
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: see if I'm gonna get into him, I gotta I
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: gotta get the recommendations from the from the people, so
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I don't start with something that's gonna put a bad
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: taste in my mouth and be like, oh, I don't
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: want to watch this anymore. So I'm gonna have to
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: get like a list from you or in my buddy
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Michael and be like, all right, give me some good
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: starting points, give me some gateway westerns to like get
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: me into the genre. I have a feeling that I'm
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: probably gonna enjoy spaghetti westerns the most.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I just have a feeling I could see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: The only thing else I wanted to touch on really
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: with this. I mean, I have so many more points,
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: but I don't want to stay here forever. We already
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: talked about the aliens not being little gray aliens except
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: for the ones that were fake.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I really love I really really love the act I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: love all the actors. I think Daniel Kului is wonderful.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: He always is. Keiky Palmer's tremendous. She's gonna be She
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: has a movie coming out in a week called I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Love Boosters, directly directed by Boots Riley that I'm probably
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: my most anticipated movie of the year, other than Okay
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: because he's his first movie. Sorry to Bother, He's one
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. But I love the I love
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the mistry between the three of them. When when Angel
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: played by Brandon Perea, comes in, just such an odd
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: chemistry between the three of these just insanely different people.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I love him as just this interloper who's just like, no,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I mean I I feel like I'm part of the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: team now. Nobody invited me, but like, yeah, I'm here.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah I'm gonna spy. I mean he's yeah, he's violating
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: their privacy, he's invading their home.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you can't help but love him.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: And it's great too because the way they meet is funny.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: You know, they're buying these cameras and and angels, like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: just kind of he just feels checked out, you know,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: and he's like, are you gonna not you know, on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: me to sall these Now I was like, okay, not
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: gonna install them. Good to know. They're like, is this
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: hard to install? He's like, not for me. And then
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: he shows up figures out what they're doing, and he's like,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, I'm into this. So I love that everybody
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: that that that that is brought into this is just
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: like believers in UFOs and like wants to get the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: perfect shot. It's just I don't know, it added to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: the It added to the fun for me. Everyone became
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: very passionate that, you know.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: The way that between between the way he plays it
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, the way Peel directs and writes him
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: is like you you understand everything about this guy just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: in the way he interacts with them at the store.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Like his bosses are telling him, you have to upsell everybody.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Either they're buying hundreds of dollars of equipment that's not
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: good enough. You have to get them to pay you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to install it, because that's where we actually make our money.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: He's sick of having to tell people this. But he
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: also has this superiority complex over all these dumb customers
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: who he knows so much more than I love it.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's and he's not like a service level character.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: But you're you're right, you know everything about him very quickly,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: and I love a character like that, Like I don't
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: need any explanation from him. Uh. His his heart is
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: just very clear. And the three of them together are great.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: And then of course when Michael Wincott shows up, it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: just goes. His energy is just completely different than all
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: three of their energies. He's just this old like cinematographer
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: just kind of just I don't know, he doesn't feel
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: checked out like Angel first did. I don't know, He's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: just he just feels kind of old and frumpy. I mean,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know how else to explain him.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I think that he's you know, he's a cinematographer. He
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: lives in the world of images, so it's almost like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: he's not a part of the world. He's he can't,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: he don't. He almost doesn't know how to interact with humanity.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: He's just like sort of this detached ethereal being.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: There we go detached. Yeah, he feels very detached because
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: he's just behind the camera. So when he gets the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: chance to possibly get this thing on camera, that's when
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: his character kind of i'd say, comes alive, but just
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: there's a little more energy to him. And then by
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: the end he's got full blown just psycho face when
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: he's being sucked up into the into the monster with
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: that uh you know, the hand crank fucking camera that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: he has. And what's really cool, I don't know, it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: says Imax on the camera that he's using in the movie.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's actually a real Imax camera,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: But I know something fun about this is apparently this
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: was the first horror movie shot in Imax, which I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: thought was fascinating. You can definitely tell when the aspect
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: ratios changes or change that there is there. You know
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: they were using Imax cameras, so maybe that was just
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: a ad for Imax. Who the fuck knows.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: It was shot on film, including sixty five millimeter for Imax,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: and it's it's the movie looks incredible. Again, there's nothing
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: better in a movie than a person on a horse
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: back in front of a mountain.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: Beautiful ten out of ten. Last thing I'll say about
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: this is one other thing that Jordan Peele kind of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: flips the script on and turns an open space into
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: a claustrophobic space. Because you know, a lot of horror
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: movies trap people and confined places, that's what gives you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: that claustrophobia. But this movie does the complete opposite, and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: it traps people under an open sky, so nothing feels safe.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: In fact, the confined house somehow feels safer than being
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: outside because there's nowhere to hide outside. The environment is massive.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: They are way out in the mountains and you're constantly exposed.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: And so that movie it just turns, it turns openness
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: into dread and I find that absolutely, absolutely fascinating, and
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  Speaker 4: I love the bit, the reoccurring bit that they did
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: with the cloud. That was really fun. That's the last
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: thing I wanted to touch on. When he's playing that time
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: lapse and he's like, you notice anything, and OJ is like,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: that cloud's not moving, and then that cloud's just sitting there.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: It's like, that's the alien's home base, and this is
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: where it sits in a little cloud and just hangs
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: out until it's hungry and then it comes down and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: fucks people up. So I think that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody notices anything about the world, like something like that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: could be happening right now.
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  Speaker 5: I would.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have no idea If the clouds in the sky
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  Speaker 1: are the exact same every single day, I'm not looking
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: at the sky.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what That's what OJ even says. He's like,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: it's probably been like that for the past six months
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: for all I know, and it probably has. It's just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: been hanging out there, waiting, breathing, and you just don't
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: know what's there. H So I think that's all I got.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I do feel like this stands out from the twenty twenties.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Now now watching it for the third time, it feels, uh,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: it just feels a very it's a very smart movie
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: that will make you think there is some subtext, there
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: is some theming going on, and it's a hard balance
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  Speaker 4: to pull off. But I think Peel fucking nails it
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: in this movie. And I think my rating is gonna
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: go up today because I was totally awestruck by this movie.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: And it's weird that that happened on the third time.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: I loved it the first time, loved it the second time,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: and then for some reason this time, I was like,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: this is like peak cinema. So that's why I always say,
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  Speaker 4: rewatch movies and give them another chance. If it didn't
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: work for you the first time, it might work for
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: you the second time. So that's my final thought of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: the day. Anything else you'd like to touch on or mention?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: This, yes, very important, very important. Let me hear the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: restaurant they eat at, this fish restaurant. I'm like, what
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: is this? This Wiener Schnitzel building. I gotta go to this.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: So it turns out it's a fake. It's a fake
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: restaurant they made up. But this this like fish chain.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: But apparently this this chain was also in US. So
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: these two movies, this is it's a cinematic universe. It's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: all tied together. Lapita and Yango. Will you know make
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a cameo appearance in Nope two, I'm sure, but apparently
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the real location is a Jimmy's Charred Roiled Burgers in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: North Hollywood, So when I do my movie road Trip
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: one day, I will be eating there and I can't wait.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: The other thing is that is that Angel works at
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Fries Electronics, and I believe all the Fries Electronics are
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: closed and they were already in rapid decline in twenty
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: twenty two. But watch YouTube videos about Fry's Electronics in California.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: They were these like sort of like circuit city stores,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: but each had its own theme, very kitchy, like there
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: was a UFO themed store and like an Alice in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Wonderland themed store, but otherwise they were kind of just
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: best buys that also sold like pornography and stuff. Just
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: it was like, I've never been to one. I wish
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I could have gone, but they were like these leftovers
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: from thirty years ago and I wish they were still around.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: That's so funny because the one that they go to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: in the movie has the UFO on the building. That's hilarious. Okay,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: I love it. When are you going on this California tour.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: When is this happening. It's never happening. I'm never doing it. Oh,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: it's just the fu it's just the dream trip. Okay,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: it's the dream. I can't even go to the movie period.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: How am I going? I'm gonna go to the movie
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: road trip? I can't even fill my car up without
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: it costing a million dollars at this point. She's just
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: too expensive. All right, Well, one day, one day, I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: do genuinely hope you get to go do this road trip.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: That would be That would be a lot of fun
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: and hit all these places. I do have some fun
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: trivia that I'll get to in just a second. Because
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: you mentioned the same restaurant popping up in US. So, uh,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: let's roll on to the final cut here, so taglines,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: it's the same thing as the IMDb summary, The residents
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: of a Lonely gulch in Inland, California bear witness to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: an uncanny and chilling discovery. There was no other taglines.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: I was very, very strange. I'd like to live in
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: the world where NOPE actually stands for not of Planet Earth.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: I find that to be fun. But that's just me
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: being stupid. That's not even trivia. That's just my own brain.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Got some really cool bit of trivia there here though
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: there wasn't a lot, but the stuff I have is
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: is pretty solid. So let's see Jordan Peele sites King Kong,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: which is which is? This is really funny because we've
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: mentioned most of these King Kong, Jurassic Park, Close Encounters
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: to the Third Kind which we just did, Signs, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: The Wizard of Oz as influences on the film. He
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: considers these films as examples of addiction to spectacle, a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: major theme in the film. And I know Signs is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: your favorite alien invasion of all time? Correct?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm so that you know that. Well you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: I remember you.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: It came up on the Shyamalan episode that we did
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: of at Knock at the Cap. Yeah, I remembered. Stephen
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Yen's character Jupe has a large pair of metal scissors
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: on his desk, which are these same scissors dominantly featured
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: in Jordan Peele's previous film us So Two Connections to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: us Interesting. Via his Twitter account, Jordan Peele shared the
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: full intro to Gordy's home shortly after the movie's release.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Set to Strange Animal by Gwen. The video Parodi's similar
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: eighties and ninety six com intros while also foreshadowing the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: more sinister events depicted in the film. The amusements park
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: set of Jupiter's Claim is now a permanent part of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Universal's Hollywood Studios back loot. It was converted to a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: haunted house maze during Halloween Horror Nights twenty twenty two,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: and like I mentioned earlier, this is the first horror
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: film to be filmed with Imax cameras. Two very petty
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: and dumb goofs, which I love. Nighttime scenes were filmed
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: using a filter to darken scenes, but in all capitals
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: this technique leaves the sky blue, when in fact the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: night skies is always black. Exclamation point. This technique tends
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: to also leave landscapes bathed in sunlight highly detailed, evident,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: when in fact it should fade disappear into the shadows
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: and darkness of the background. Night shut up nerd.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Substract subtracting a star from my review from your review
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: It's bullshit if we did.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: When ever World first meets Ricky, she asks him about
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: looking around the memorabilia from his child star days. Ricky
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: says su casa as mi casa, which translates to your
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: house as my house. But the common phrase is mikasa
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: as sukasa. Uh So, I mean, I kind of agree
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: with that one, but it is it is just a
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: dumb thing to point out. He said that, and I was.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Like, but that's the point. It's it's just it's that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: that's telling you about the character that he doesn't know
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: the expression exactly.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: It's gotten exactly. I noticed that, and I was like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: isn't it the other way around? And I was like,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: that's part of his character. Okay, yeah, uh So here
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: we go. Rated kind of low on IMDb, it was
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: kind of I was kind of shocked. Six point eight
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: out of ten on IMDb are purposes of the Nightmare
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: and makes that a three point four out of five.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: It has a three point seven out of five on Letterbucks,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: an eighty three percent on the Tomato Meter, and a
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: sixty nine percent audience score. What do we have this at,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Matt What?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: Rating five? Five?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: I'm also raising it to a five. It had been
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: a four and a half previously, so I'm also going
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: to give it a five, which gives us a nightmare
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: index of Oh my goodness, four point three zero, No,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: four point two eight. There we go. I can do math,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: So that puts this at number three, right behind Trained
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: to Busan at a Oh wait, no, this is above
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: Train to Buson. I'm stupid, So this puts this in
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: the number three spot, ahead of Trained to Busan at
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: a four point two zero and just under Don of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: the Dead at a four point three five. I like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: seeing Nope all the way up on that fucking list,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: and that also means it is a frightmarriage certified slap
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: Love to hear at Similar movies according to IMDb, No Surprise,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: Hear Us, Get Out, Hereditary, mid Simar, and Talk to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Me kind of went off there, and similar movies according
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: to letterbox No One Will Save You, Signs A Quiet Place,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: the Thing, and Us, I think I have? What do
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: I have? I think it came strapped with like six
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: reviews just in case we had. Oh, I have four
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: reviews from letterboxed. Did you manage to grab any funny
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: reviews to go over with me?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: I did? He?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Now he loves the Twilight Zone Jordan Peel, and I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: think all three of his movies are Twilight Zone episodes
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: turned into move are basically like feature length Twilight Zone episodes.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: And I think that as a premise, this is less
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: like a Twilight Zone episode than the other two.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: But this deals with so many of the themes that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: the Twilight Zone deals with. And I do a Twilight
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: Zone podcast and it is obsessed with media and the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: way that TV is changing the way people are able
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: to understand reality. So, if you like Jordan Peele, check
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: out the Twilight Zone from television.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: From television, you remember television? All right? So I do
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: have four reviews, but I will let you go first,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: just in case we have any overlapping, because sometimes it
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: does happen.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: So what do you heart? This is from Rotten Tomatoes.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: This is half a star quote the worst movie my
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: husband and I have ever seen. We still talk about
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: how bad it was end quote. So I mean, I'd
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: just like to imagine this couple, like late late at
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: night in bed, just being like, yeah, babe, this is
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: such a bad movie.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: I love. The funny part of that review is just
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: imagining this couple constantly talking about how bad it was.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: We're always talking about it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: Four and a half stars from Frames of Nick on Letterbox,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: giant gaping butthole in the sky eats Californians.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I love a dumb review. All right, what else you got?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Half a star? This is from hamad Shake thirty one
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: on Letterboxed. Well, this movie is so bad. I hope
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Jordan Pell stubs a toe every time he thinks of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: this awful shit poopy cock cough film. I hate it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: so much, just a bunch of nothing.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, five stars from Carston. Gonna go home
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: and murder my ikea plush monkey immediately, And I I
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: agree with you. Yeah, And I don't want any fucking
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: monkeys tearing my dick off. Got any more?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: You really don't.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: If I've got If not, it's fine, I've got two more.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: If you've got a ton.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I liked all of them when I when
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I did screencout, Why did I think this was funny?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: Why did I think this was good? Yeah?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is unrotten tomatoes one star, Yeah, no vivid CA.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of people start their review with yeah, nope,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: you good characters cannot save this nonsensical plot. Make it
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Sure, there's some message Peel thinks he's trying
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: to convey, But.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: No, I don't get it.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: I like when people's complaint is I don't I don't
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: understand the movie.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: It's suck. Yeah, that's not a reason to hate a movie.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: If you don't understand it, learn go educate yourself on
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: what you're not understanding. Go to the internet, go to
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: a nope explained, get yourself some context, man or like, Hey,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: it's okay to not understand a movie. You don't have
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: to take the step of leaving a review though that
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: what is that? I don't understand most of David Lynch's films,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: but they're fucking masterpiece. Every goddamn one of them is
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: a masterpiece. I mean, come on, you don't have to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: understand it to love it. What do I got here?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Two more three stars from three Dune, Simmy Colon Sand Butthole. Nope,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Simmy Colan Sky Butthole. I'm very excited for Ocean Butthole.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: And I don't know which one's Ocean Butthole is gonna be,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: but I'm excited as well.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what is ocean buttle? I'm very excited about this.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: I'll come up with the concept.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Half a star from Letterbox. This is Joe Swan, Joe Swanson,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Biden a whole vibe is annoying me, and despite the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: movie as a whole being confusing, each individual scene is predictable, lame, lame, lame,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: actually pretentious, pretentiously am although literary literacy perplexity. Since he's like,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: now he's doing like a lot of like I'm just
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: using some big words just to be like, I'm a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: smart movie And this is just another thing that annoys
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: me about people leaving reviews. Again, all these things are
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: okay to think. Why leave a review where you complain
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: about how something was confusing and you're not smart enough
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: to understand it?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: That is my whole It brings me back to my
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: whole thing about elevated horror. It was a term created
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: by people who don't understand horror movies that make you
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: think that's what it is. They're like, I don't I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: don't understand this. Go look, go look at the ending
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: explained videos. I've done it myself. If I'm like, ah, fuck,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't really get that movie. Let me
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: go see an ending explained boom. I'm like, oh, oh,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: there's my context. Now I like the movie. I don't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: need to go right.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I blame film critics because you know, historically, Uh, you know,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: they've tutted about horror film, so if one's good, they
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: have to be like, no, you have to see this.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: One's elevated. It's really trying stuff. It's really the genre.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: Also, this, this film is not predictable. There's no way
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: on planet Earth anyone of would have predicted that it
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: wasn't a UFO and it was actually a creature. That
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: was one of the fucking wildest reveals of the twentieth century.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Last one from me, Karen h appears to be appears
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: to be a female. No stars, just a heart, and
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: it says, Michael Wincott, step on me, please. People are
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: getting weird out there. So that's all. I've got four reviews.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: If you want to do one more, go for it.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: There's lazy Oh my god, a special guest appearance by
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Lacey Hellow, I can't hear. You're glowing. You're glowing.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: When you're glowing, you're growing, Yeah, you're growing, you're growing girl. Okay,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: all right, look out for umbrella aliens in the sky.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but hole aliens. All right, you got one more?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have one half a star It just
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: says nope, but again, our verdict.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Say yep to know, Yeah, say yep to nope. I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: love that so much. I really want to put that
• 1:18:24
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  Speaker 4: these specific review like you did those What did you
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  Speaker 4: do those specific Christmas movies or something like a very
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  Speaker 4: uh what what were they?
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  Speaker 5: It was like Christmas, a Christmas movie for every genre.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. I fucking watched every single one
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  Speaker 4: of those and I was like, this is amazing. Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so great content over from them at one week Rental.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: If you'd like to expand your movie podcast listening, be
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  Speaker 4: sure to check out these Shameless Picture Show, the Dead
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  Speaker 4: Eyed Millennial Film Club, and One Week Rental. As I say,
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  Speaker 4: every week, next week, Michael and I will be doing
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  Speaker 4: and it Italian alien movie called Contamination from nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 4: as our international pick. And this is streaming everywhere. Look
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  Speaker 4: at me go picking movies that you can actually access.
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  Speaker 4: It is on Plex, it is on Pluto, it is
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  Speaker 4: on Roku, and it is on two B. So check
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  Speaker 4: out Contamination. What's their faces? Goblin did the soundtrack for it,
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  Speaker 4: so at least it will have that going for it.
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  Speaker 5: That's always well that instantly like elevations anything anything that
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  Speaker 5: it's in exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So thank you for joining me, Matt, really appreciate you
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  Speaker 4: being here and until next week, guys, stay tuned and
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  Speaker 4: stay spooky.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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