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Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's seven to oh six on Friday e which means
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Speaker 1: elle get the value of the well words of wisdom
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Speaker 1: and competence, as always demonstrated by Congressman Warren Davidson. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the Morning show. Congressman Davidson. It's always a
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Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the show.
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Speaker 2: Definitely an honor to join you. Thanks, Brian.
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Speaker 1: All right, I've got a million things we could talk about,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to one of my favorite topics and
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Speaker 1: my listeners know what's coming. Fraud. I mean, is this
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Speaker 1: not the most potentially bipartisan thing that our politicians can
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Speaker 1: do for us? Go after the fraud, the ripping off
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Speaker 1: of the American hard earned taxpayer dollar. They're in charge
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Speaker 1: of it, they make the programs, they have an It's
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Speaker 1: apparently pretty damn easy to stop fraud in its tracks
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Speaker 1: if you do it the right way. And thankfully jd.
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Speaker 1: Vance is running the Fraud Task Force he announced a
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Speaker 1: few days ago. They've already identified in the few months
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Speaker 1: since this whole thing was started, two hundred and thirty
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Speaker 1: billion dollars in fraud, and they stopped payments on fifty
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Speaker 1: six billion dollars which would have gone out the door.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: He acknowledged that it's difficult to claw back they fraudulently paid money,
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Speaker 1: but look, you spend a few months time working on it,
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Speaker 1: and this is complicated work, and you find it, and
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Speaker 1: he he's urging Congress to codify their actions. He said,
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Speaker 1: this effort will fundamentally always have limitations unless our colleagues
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Speaker 1: in the House and Senator working with us. He said,
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Speaker 1: we don't want the next administration to undo all the
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Speaker 1: incredible work we've been doing. He points out he says
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Speaker 1: Congress can take action to force data sharing between state
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Speaker 1: and feds in order to crack down on fraud. That
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Speaker 1: seems like a valuable point. There are other things you
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Speaker 1: can do. But my question is Congressman Davidson, first off,
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Speaker 1: do you embrace the idea of codifying measures that'll stop
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Speaker 1: broad waste and abuse? And if you can anticipate opposition,
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Speaker 1: why would anyone oppose it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, of course I support what jd Vance
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Speaker 2: is calling for. It's common sense. But then there's the
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Speaker 2: crazy Party. So look at if there's zero partisanship when
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Speaker 2: you want to go after people at scamming seniors, right,
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Speaker 2: So if you go after call center fraud people, that
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Speaker 2: are out there trying to get you know, seniors to
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Speaker 2: go to the bank and send a wire to you
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Speaker 2: know Nigeria or right, you know, cross down whatever. Democrats
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Speaker 2: are great to work with. We've got a bill that
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Speaker 2: I think we'll introduce in September that is going to
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Speaker 2: boost the ability when there are these scams. You know
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Speaker 2: a lot of our state and local prosecutors they can't
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Speaker 2: get the time of day from the FBI or you know,
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Speaker 2: secret service that's supposed to solve crimes, and they'll kick
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Speaker 2: in if there's a million dollar theft, but if it's
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Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars and five thousand dollars here and
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Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars there, you know, those are you know,
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Speaker 2: quote small crimes for the FBI. The reality is they're
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Speaker 2: real crimes, and a lot of times fencent financial crimes network.
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Speaker 2: They're they're documenting, they're forcing banks to report on potential crimes. Right,
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Speaker 2: So we're going to have no partisanship saying we're going
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Speaker 2: to go after those kinds of scams. But look at
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Speaker 2: how mad democrats are when you want to go after
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Speaker 2: scams who are also robbing seniors and poor people because
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Speaker 2: they're wrecking medicare, they're wrecking Medicaid, they're wrecking the food
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Speaker 2: stamps program. Every kind of scam you can imagine is
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Speaker 2: being run. And they're heavily being run by sanctuary cities.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy what's going on. And we've
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Speaker 2: tried to pass some really common sense reforms, and we
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Speaker 2: did in the Big Beautiful Bill. We passed some of
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Speaker 2: this stuff already. We tried codifying DOGE. They're mad as
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Speaker 2: hornets for the government looking at data that the government
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Speaker 2: has to say, well, you know, who's even alive. Remember
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Speaker 2: how they were mad at they you know, like twelve
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Speaker 2: million people that were over one hundred and twenty off
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Speaker 2: the Social Security registry. I mean, this is crazy. And
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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, well, they're not being paid out social Security.
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Speaker 2: Not all of them were somewhere, but some of them
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Speaker 2: were getting eligibil. You had like I think I forget
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Speaker 2: the number now, but a huge number of people that
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Speaker 2: were getting small business administers tration loans that weren't alive.
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Speaker 2: There were like one hundred and twenty plus years old.
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Speaker 2: I mean, so one is too many. It's like, how
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Speaker 2: do you fail that basic check? And you had you know,
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Speaker 2: just insane numbers out there. So this effort to close
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Speaker 2: off the loopholes, to find the fraud and then put
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Speaker 2: the people that are committing it in jail, I think
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Speaker 2: is a great thing that the Vice President's doing. It's
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Speaker 2: a great thing that they added extra staff to do
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Speaker 2: at DOJ. And how could somebody be opposed to it?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's mind blowing, but there is a lot
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Speaker 2: of resistance to it.
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Speaker 1: And I don't I don't understand the resistance Congressman Davidson,
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Speaker 1: because I mean, these are basically criminal enterprises. Are there
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Speaker 1: so many criminal enterprises out there that they make up
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Speaker 1: a sizable portion of the Democratic base? Are the Democrats
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Speaker 1: getting kickbacks from the criminally and criminal enterprises who are
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Speaker 1: fraudulently stealing American taxpayer dollars by builking these programs? I mean,
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Speaker 1: it seems to me there's no political.
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Speaker 2: Brian, there's some speculat about that. Look usaid there was
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Speaker 2: money going to all these you know, crooked groups, and
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Speaker 2: you look at the the the it's just so much irony,
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Speaker 2: you know, the non government organizations, and when you look
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Speaker 2: at them, there their only real funding mechanism is grants
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Speaker 2: from governments, and so that choke point has happened. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Doze highlighted it. But then the Office of Management and Budget,
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Speaker 2: which is really where Doge was managed out of, has
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Speaker 2: cut this off. Sexuary Rubio reformed, you know, the State Department,
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Speaker 2: but even you know, they were had all these career
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Speaker 2: staff that were handing out grants, the you know, the
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Speaker 2: faucies of the world and under faucies that were handing
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Speaker 2: out money, and then it was flowing back to their
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Speaker 2: favored folks and everything else. And now somehow some of
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Speaker 2: the cash on left wing causes has dried up. There's
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Speaker 2: not as much money for paid protests out in the streets.
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Speaker 2: Act Blue, which we've always suspected as a money laundering
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Speaker 2: operation that funds Democratic campaigns, is drying up in cash.
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Speaker 2: The Congressional Committee for the Democrats had to take a
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Speaker 2: loan out on their building to get money for this
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Speaker 2: election cycle because they don't have the cash they're used
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Speaker 2: to having to. So, yeah, there's some suspicion that a
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Speaker 2: lot of this cash that's our hard earned tax dollars
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Speaker 2: is being laundered back in to Democrat operations. And you know,
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Speaker 2: we've got criminal referrals for fraud with Act Blue. Where
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Speaker 2: where they are you go find? You know, you know
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Speaker 2: Grandma Smith who says, you know, they act by According
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Speaker 2: to Act Blue, she's given one hundred and fifty thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars to Democrat candidates over the past year. She's like,
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Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of money. No, I have
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Speaker 2: never given a political campaign donation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It was like, and you've got case after case, where's
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Speaker 2: the prosecution? This is the kind of thing that we're
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Speaker 2: losing our minds on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And on some level I get the difference between
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Speaker 1: maybe what Dose was doing, which is basically trying to
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Speaker 1: We're going to stop funding stupid projects. No more fish
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Speaker 1: on treadmills, no more studying you know, transvestite community in
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Speaker 1: China or whatever. That's just dumb. Now the next step is, well,
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Speaker 1: the grants that you give out to fund stupid things,
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Speaker 1: did they actually do the work that they were being
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Speaker 1: paid to do or did the money get kicked back.
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Speaker 1: That's just sort of a secondary topic. The Fraud Task Force,
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Speaker 1: i would argue, is a horse of a different color.
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Speaker 1: They are out identifying demonstrably fraudulent payments. You know, it
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Speaker 1: was never too it was never intended to go out
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Speaker 1: to that particular human being, they are not eligible. Someone
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Speaker 1: built the system, someone you know, build the federal government
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Speaker 1: and got money that they were not legally entitled to.
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Speaker 1: That's like a criminal allegation, not just a wasteful spenditure,
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Speaker 1: maybe not a nefarious money trail going out into the
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Speaker 1: world to fund a quote unquote justifiable expenditure. When the
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Speaker 1: money gets kicked back to the Democrats, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: lawbreakers and they can find them.
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Speaker 2: That meant things are crimes. And look, we know and
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Speaker 2: we've had some of this stuff. Even you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: Keith Faber as auditor is highlighted some of this stuff.
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Speaker 2: There have been some prosecutions, but I think we'll see
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Speaker 2: a lot more prosecutions. Medicare and Medicaid fraud. You've got
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Speaker 2: local hospital networks that are working with DOJ. They're on
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Speaker 2: the line for millions of dollars of payments that are
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Speaker 2: turned into them as you know, quote Medicaid payments, and
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Speaker 2: they're like, hey, well, we want to cooperate with the
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Speaker 2: investigation or anything, but in the meantime we're out like
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Speaker 2: ten million dollars. So those kinds of things go on.
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Speaker 2: There are some prosecutions, but there need to be more
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Speaker 2: and you need to make it darn near impossible to
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Speaker 2: pull off the crime in the first place. Right now,
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Speaker 2: it's a lot harder than it should be. And some states,
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Speaker 2: why do you need the information sharing? Some states don't
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Speaker 2: want to cooperate and don't want to go after the
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Speaker 2: crime at all on all these payments, because why there's
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Speaker 2: federal matching dollars. And this is what we were trying
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Speaker 2: to get after with the big beautiful bill. If you
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Speaker 2: put in four dollars for Medicare or medicaid, Medicaid is
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Speaker 2: a state matching program. Medicare is for seniors, and it's
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Speaker 2: a federal program, Medicaid for state states. You put in
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Speaker 2: money in the state matches, you know, the state matches,
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Speaker 2: you get federal dollars. If you put in four dollars,
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Speaker 2: you get six dollars from the federal government. But for Obamacare,
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Speaker 2: you put in nine dollars. You put in one dollar
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Speaker 2: at the state level, you get nine dollars from the
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Speaker 2: federal level. So there's all this cash that comes flowing
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Speaker 2: into states, and the incentive is is, well, if I
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Speaker 2: put in one, I get nine in my state, and
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Speaker 2: the money gets spent and in the sanctuary cities in general.
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Speaker 2: They're pouring cash into the city off of some of
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Speaker 2: these programs because you get one dollar into you know,
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Speaker 2: essentially a hollowed out urban core because no one does
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Speaker 2: anything about crime except foster more of it. Everyone that
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Speaker 2: can get out gets out, and then the city's going, well,
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Speaker 2: how do we fund our budget? Well, how about fraud?
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Speaker 2: How about sanctuary cities. Let's flood it with that's the
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Speaker 2: smoking guy people that we can do this. And this
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Speaker 2: is going on in sanctuary cities all over the country,
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Speaker 2: and that's where when you look at the nexus for
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Speaker 2: the illegal immigration, this is exactly what they're trying to do.
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Speaker 2: They're trying to keep the cash flowing into the cities,
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Speaker 2: and they're trying to hold on to representation because when
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Speaker 2: you do the census, you count everybody that's there, not
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Speaker 2: just the citizens. And so like California has got like
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Speaker 2: seven extra members of Congress because they have illegals, and okay,
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Speaker 2: Texas probably does too, but states like Ohio are losing out.
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Speaker 2: It's not that we don't have any illegals, but proportionally
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Speaker 2: we have less. We probably are losing a congressional seat
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Speaker 2: just because of the skewed nature of the census. So
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Speaker 2: this is all interconnected to a scheme, and that's why
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Speaker 2: the Democrats know it is benefitting them, if not engineered
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Speaker 2: by some of the folks. Not necessarily everybody, but some
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Speaker 2: folks have engineered this and it is heavily benefiting the
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Speaker 2: Democrat Party. So you're over the target. That's why they
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Speaker 2: won't cooperate on investigating the fraud.
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Speaker 1: Very clearly stated, I knew it could count on you,
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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson. Don't call the way. We've got lots
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Speaker 1: more to cover before you part company with my listening
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Speaker 1: audience and me. First foreign Exchange I had in exchange
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Speaker 1: the one I recommended. I sevent twenty two, I fifty
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Speaker 1: have KC detalk station and I B Friday E Brian
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Speaker 1: Thomas with Congressman Warren Davidson. Always appreciate his willingness to
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Speaker 1: talk with us. And we're gonna I just gonna pivot
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Speaker 1: over to the Save Act. I know it's been passed
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Speaker 1: by the House a couple of times. You know photo
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Speaker 1: ID for voting g there's a big problem with that.
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Speaker 1: No one seems to have it New Gallop poll Out
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Speaker 1: or Rasmus and poll Out saying that it's overwhelmingly approved
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Speaker 1: across the board, including white voters, black voters, Hispanic voters,
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Speaker 1: and other minority voters all saying, well, the US only
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Speaker 1: US citizen should be allowed to vote. If they can
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Speaker 1: vote in US elections, there must be a problem with
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Speaker 1: the system to stop that from happening. A photo ID
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Speaker 1: seems to be a solution, and most people embrace that.
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Speaker 1: It's like if you have a grocery store with a
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Speaker 1: thirty percent discount contract, Shongressman Davidson, and you see ahead
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Speaker 1: of time the problem that you might have with people
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Speaker 1: who aren't supposed to be eligible for that coming in
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Speaker 1: and depriving those who are eligible of the thirty percent
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Speaker 1: discount of the ability to buy it. You prevent them
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Speaker 1: from doing that by requiring, oh, I don't know, maybe
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Speaker 1: a library card or something which proves they are authorized
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Speaker 1: to shop for the discount grocery stores. Problem solved. Well,
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Speaker 1: we've got Mickey Cheryl, governor of New Jersey, admitting that
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Speaker 1: she would sign a voter ID law in to play
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Speaker 1: because they found six six hundred non citizens registered to
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Speaker 1: vote there in one calendar year, and the genesis of
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Speaker 1: the problem was the DMV automatically issuing a registering drivers
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Speaker 1: to vote. They've been doing that since twenty eighteen. So
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Speaker 1: SI six hundred or many are suggesting, like the Trunk
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Speaker 1: administration is probably going to be more like thirty five thousand.
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Speaker 1: This is a real problem. It's in need of a solution.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like we've got one. Congressman Davidson, what in the
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Speaker 1: hell is wrong with the Senate?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, common sense versus crazy. I mean, it's mind blowing
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Speaker 2: to me. And okay, we just covered wide Democrats won't
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Speaker 2: cooperate their benefiting from it, not actually engineering it. I
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Speaker 2: mean some Democrats definitely engineered it, not necessarily everyone but okay,
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Speaker 2: a handful know it and would potentially be willing to
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Speaker 2: do something about it, but not in Congress and certainly
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Speaker 2: not in the United States Senate. I think we had
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Speaker 2: to join us on the Save Act in the House
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Speaker 2: at one point, and you know, no real support for
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Speaker 2: it in office, but in the public not a partisan
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Speaker 2: issue at all. And when it comes down to it, Oh,
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Speaker 2: if minorities and women somehow couldn't produce ID, well, why
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Speaker 2: would you why would you create a way where they
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Speaker 2: can't get access to the discount of groceries. So the
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Speaker 2: complete narrative corapt collapse by Mandami the Kami's a grocery
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Speaker 2: store there in New York. You know, it look complete hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: But everybody already knows that. The question is what are
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Speaker 2: you going to do about it? And meanwhile you have
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Speaker 2: allegedly Republican senators, people who put our after their name
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Speaker 2: and campaign as Republicans, that say they can't vote for
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Speaker 2: the Save Act in the United States Senate. So look,
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Speaker 2: even the fake version that the House sent over with
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Speaker 2: the directing social evan builder essentially opposite ten billion dollars
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Speaker 2: bribe the states to say, you know, hey, if you
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Speaker 2: sign up for this, you get some federal dollars. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't think if all ten billion dollars went to
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Speaker 2: California they would take the deal. But so there's problems
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Speaker 2: with what they're trying to do. You can't even get
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Speaker 2: the Senate to vote on that. I mean, we've been
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Speaker 2: trying to get them to do that well from the House,
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Speaker 2: and I mean this is this is a very superficial
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Speaker 2: version of it, and we can't get it across the
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Speaker 2: finish line in the Senate. So I don't understand the
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Speaker 2: place except to say, fifteen of the fifty three Republican
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Speaker 2: senators score f on Republican Conservative scorecards.
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Speaker 1: And I've heard the argument that, well, if we passed it,
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Speaker 1: there's not enough time between now November to get it
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Speaker 1: into place. Is that the thing they're hanging the Republicans
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Speaker 1: are hanging their hat on just that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what. Look, anyone can find an excuse.
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Speaker 2: Leaders find a way. Leader Thun hasn't found a way.
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Speaker 2: I really do believe it's time for him to step aside.
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Speaker 2: He has not delivered results in the United States Senate.
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Speaker 2: He's held up all kinds of things that we've done
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Speaker 2: in the House. And okay, if he can't get it
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Speaker 2: done in this election, that's disappointing, but you can get
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Speaker 2: it done in the next election effective days you continue
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Speaker 2: to wait. Exactly, it's a completely vacuous excuse.
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Speaker 1: And it makes zero sense. You can easily point to
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Speaker 1: your point on the whole. We want the illegal immigrants
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Speaker 1: to be able to vote if you're a Democrat, because
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Speaker 1: of course they're going to be voting for the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: And I get that, but the Republicans have no argument,
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Speaker 1: none to oppose this. So yeah, let's name the fifteen,
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Speaker 1: let's shame the fifteen, and let's get this thing pass,
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Speaker 1: because seems to me it's a pretty obvious playbook being
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Speaker 1: run here, Congressman Davidson, the Democrats are a firm no
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Speaker 1: on this, along with the help of Republicans, are running
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Speaker 1: the clock out in November when they think they're going
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Speaker 1: to take over and the whole idea of the Save
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Speaker 1: Act will disappear.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean the reality is some Republicans, I think,
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Speaker 2: really prefer to be in the minority because it gives
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Speaker 2: the illusion of unity within the party. You vote no
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Speaker 2: on Democrat plans, and if Republicans come in and introduce
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Speaker 2: essentially the same spending plan, then somehow it's magically good.
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Speaker 2: And this is exasperating to the Republican wing of the
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Speaker 2: Republican Party. The people that say I want a smaller,
16:32
Speaker 2: more accountable government and mean it and are willing to
16:35
Speaker 2: vote that way. We're frustrated. But we're in DC. We're
16:38
Speaker 2: considered the enemy because the big government Republicans in the
16:41
Speaker 2: big government Democrats agree that the small government people are
16:45
Speaker 2: the real enemy. Right. So the thirty nine point seven
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Speaker 2: trillion dollar debt that we have didn't accumulate because one
16:54
Speaker 2: party is for more government. It's because both parties conspire
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Speaker 2: to deliver more government, no matter what the one small
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Speaker 2: government party campaigns on. And that's where people are rightly exasperated. Look,
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Speaker 2: you know, this endless deficit, massively growing debt results in
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Speaker 2: debased dollars, which means your money can't buy as much
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Speaker 2: five dollars. Foot longs are twelve dollars, Brian. Yeah, And
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Speaker 2: people out there pretending like everything's fine, Like, no, stop
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Speaker 2: bankrupting America. And eventually, maybe before we get to the
17:25
Speaker 2: crash site. Maybe not until we get to the crash site,
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Speaker 2: people are going to have to come to grips with
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Speaker 2: reality is, you can't spend more than you earn every
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Speaker 2: stinking year. It's going to result in disaster.
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Speaker 1: One trillion plus dollars annually spent on the interest payment
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Speaker 1: the credit card bill for the borrowing, and that figure
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Speaker 1: grows every year. It dwarfs all the other expenditures of government,
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Speaker 1: Am I right? Congressman Davidson, Well, it doesn't dwarf every expenditure,
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Speaker 1: but it is you know, social Security and Medicare are
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Speaker 1: collectively Barreno biggest combo. It is bigger than defense now
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Speaker 1: and it is massive compared to essentially everything else as
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Speaker 1: a line item. So it's clearly not sustainable, and there
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Speaker 1: is no plan to turn it off.
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Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the year, we're going
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Speaker 2: to run into the debt limit again. And look, the
18:16
Speaker 2: reality is the debt limit's supposed to make you check
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Speaker 2: up and say, you know, we should get our spending
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Speaker 2: under control. But normally, like if you went to a
18:26
Speaker 2: bank and said I need a higher credit limit, the
18:30
Speaker 2: rational question would be, well, how are you how do
18:33
Speaker 2: you plan to pay me back? And here with the
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Speaker 2: debt limit, there is no plan to stop spending more money.
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Speaker 2: There's no plan to stop growing the debt. But we're
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Speaker 2: going to have to raise a delement because the alternative
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Speaker 2: is default, right, that's the only way we can sustain this.
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Speaker 2: But I do believe that you need to leverage those
18:52
Speaker 2: kinds of moments to say no. You do have to say, hey,
18:55
Speaker 2: we're going to raise it this much, but over that
18:57
Speaker 2: time we're going to bend the curve so that we
18:59
Speaker 2: don't hit it again, or that we run this stretch
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Speaker 2: out further than we've ever run it before. So we
19:06
Speaker 2: get our spending under control. I mean, you're looking at
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Speaker 2: the United States literally intervening to prevent the end from
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Speaker 2: collapsing in Japan because look, there's I think fifty two
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Speaker 2: of fifty three countries in recorded history that got a
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Speaker 2: debt to GDP ratio, So the total debt of the
19:23
Speaker 2: country results is one point three times the size of
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Speaker 2: the economy. Fifty two of fifty three countries that had
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Speaker 2: that happen defaulted on their currency, and Japan's the only
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Speaker 2: one that hasn't. They're on the ropes right now, but
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Speaker 2: we're racing towards that level with our own spending.
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Speaker 1: Who's going to save us?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we just need to confront reality, and it's
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Speaker 2: undermining our status as the world's reserve currency. Frankly, the
19:53
Speaker 2: thing we got going for is is everybody else is
19:55
Speaker 2: doing stupider things. But you know, if we lose the
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Speaker 2: status as reserve currency, I mean, it is going to
20:04
Speaker 2: be massively consequential for us. I mean, you can't can't
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Speaker 2: keep living like this, and everyone says it, but the
20:11
Speaker 2: question is are we going to do it? That's the
20:13
Speaker 2: kind of divide you're seeing within the Republican Party and
20:16
Speaker 2: a lot of these people why they're okay with taking
20:19
Speaker 2: terrible votes on all kinds of things in the Senate
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Speaker 2: is they're comfortable being in the minority because they can
20:24
Speaker 2: just pretend that we're united. We're not having in this
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Speaker 2: reckoning within our own party, and look, the general election
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Speaker 2: isn't the right time to do it. That's what you
20:32
Speaker 2: have primaries about, is within the party and in the
20:36
Speaker 2: general it's like, look, common sense versus crazy, This is easy.
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Speaker 1: Republican Congressman Warren Davidson, a real pleasure having you on.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate your common sense, logic and reason. I wish we
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Speaker 1: had more people out there that had your logic and
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Speaker 1: reason