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Trump vs Harris Presidential Debate Recap: What It Means for You | Democrat & Republican Reactions · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 3: How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good evening?
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  Speaker 4: They Hello, it's going good. It's been a very entertaining.
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  Speaker 3: To say, it's been entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: Good choice of words.
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  Speaker 5: So Whitley Yates, political strategists and media expert, founder of
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  Speaker 5: the Niche Agency, and it is the leader in the
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  Speaker 5: Indieana Republican Party.
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 6: I am the actual director of Diversity for the Indiana Republican.
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  Speaker 3: Party, direct director of Diversity.
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  Speaker 4: From Indy heard that correct?
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  Speaker 3: For the Indiana What part of Indiana are you from?
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  Speaker 4: Indianapolis?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, yeah, we've been shut out up.
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  Speaker 5: We are on our partners is from Indiana. He's from
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  Speaker 5: East Chicago, Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: We love East Chicago. I love the region.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, we're familiar.
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  Speaker 5: All right, all right, Uh so let's get into it.
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  Speaker 5: You know you are a Republican, right. We just saw
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  Speaker 5: about one hundred minutes of a very spirited debate. We're
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  Speaker 5: going to ask you know, different questions, but first and foremost,
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  Speaker 5: what was your thoughts on the debate?
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you a.
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  Speaker 6: Little bit about what I was expecting to hear and
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  Speaker 6: what I think a lot of Americans were expecting to hear,
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  Speaker 6: which was a plan, a plan to move America from
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  Speaker 6: the current state that it's in into a better one.
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  Speaker 6: And when I say the current state, I'm talking inflation,
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  Speaker 6: I'm talking the price of gas, I'm talking shrinkflation, I'm
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  Speaker 6: talking immigration. And more specifically me as a black woman,
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  Speaker 6: what are you going to do for the black community.
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  Speaker 6: If you listened to that debate and you felt like
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  Speaker 6: you heard that plan, I would be interested to see
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  Speaker 6: what they're saying in the chat. I think both candidates
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  Speaker 6: went in with very two, very different missions. To be
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  Speaker 6: quite honest, Kamalin needed to prove that she actually has
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  Speaker 6: a plan, and Trump needed to prove that his leadership
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  Speaker 6: is better than hers and Biden's. So they went in
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  Speaker 6: there with very different tasks. I think that one of
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  Speaker 6: them achieved it and the other one didn't. But I
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  Speaker 6: also think that we are the ones who kind of
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  Speaker 6: are lost at the end of the day. If you
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  Speaker 6: were an undecided voter and you were looking for plans,
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  Speaker 6: specifically from commonlo you didn't really hear.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of that.
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  Speaker 6: If you were someone who was looking for policies, you
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  Speaker 6: didn't really hear a lot of that. And so I
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  Speaker 6: think overall this wasn't This isn't going to sway or
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  Speaker 6: change too many people's decisions.
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  Speaker 1: When when when you looked at I mean even some
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  Speaker 1: of the feedback early on, the word unhinge has come
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  Speaker 1: up in the evening in this chat. What are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the performance by forming President Trump? I seemed
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  Speaker 1: at times when we heard about eating the dolls, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about the FBI not being a reliable source when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to data. What are your thoughts around his
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  Speaker 1: specific performance today?
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  Speaker 6: So this is going to be the easiest answer I
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  Speaker 6: have online. I'm sure I feel like I always know
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  Speaker 6: what I'm going to get with Trump, Like Trump is
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  Speaker 6: always going to show up and he's going to be Trump,
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  Speaker 6: and we're going to be able to know exactly what
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  Speaker 6: he's gonna say, and he's going to say exactly how
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  Speaker 6: he feels. So when he's talking about the FBI not
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  Speaker 6: being reliable, me as a black woman and understanding cooytel pro,
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  Speaker 6: I understand that the FBI is probably one of the
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  Speaker 6: least relying agencies, specifically when they're targeting their political opponents.
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  Speaker 4: When he talks about them, they're eating your pets. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we all got a laugh out of that.
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  Speaker 6: But there's a video of a black man in Springfield
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  Speaker 6: talking about he watched them walk up in the park,
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  Speaker 6: cut the head off a duck and start eating the duck.
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  Speaker 7: This wait, you do like a duck?
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  Speaker 3: You like a ducking duck? Pecking duck.
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  Speaker 5: It's different from uh, go there, achievement.
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  Speaker 6: One up in the park and cut the head off
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  Speaker 6: the duck and eat it. But there's also videos of migrants,
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  Speaker 6: immigrants going and eating people's cats and being arrested for
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  Speaker 6: eat killing and eating a cat like this, it's real,
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  Speaker 6: Like these are things that are happening. There are cultural
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  Speaker 6: differences when you have mass immigration and mass migration into
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  Speaker 6: this country. Let's not act like it's not something that
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  Speaker 6: is happening. It is happening. And I think in totality,
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  Speaker 6: when you're looking at what Donald Trump did tonight, he
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  Speaker 6: did what he always does. He's gonna tell you how
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  Speaker 6: great he is. He's going to tell you the things
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  Speaker 6: that he's did for the economy. He's gonna tell you
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  Speaker 6: that she's trash, and then he's gonna tell you that
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  Speaker 6: he's gonna make America great again. And I think that
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  Speaker 6: he did all of those things effortlessly.
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  Speaker 5: So let me all right, let me let's just okay, now,
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  Speaker 5: let's get to it. It is thirty five hundred people in
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  Speaker 5: the check and this is gonna be a very big
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  Speaker 5: live We're just getting started. So let me ask you
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  Speaker 5: a question, honestly, right, and do you think that he's
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  Speaker 5: mentally stable to run the country? Because he says a
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  Speaker 5: lot of things that would lend you to believe that
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  Speaker 5: he's unhinged. So do you think that he's mentally stable
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  Speaker 5: to run the country?
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  Speaker 4: Do you want my honest answer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Please, please please.
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  Speaker 6: If Joe Biden is mentally stable to be president for
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  Speaker 6: the last.
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  Speaker 3: Foo Biden's not running. Joe Biden is not running.
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  Speaker 6: My answer, Joe Biden is able to still be president
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  Speaker 6: in his cognitive state right now, then Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 6: well in position mentally with the acuity to be president.
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  Speaker 6: And that should be a very that's a very clear
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  Speaker 6: answer because the truth is that we've had a president
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  Speaker 6: in the White House and we still have one there
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  Speaker 6: that has the cognition of a monkey, who has the
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  Speaker 6: mental acuity of adult principle.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just the truth. He doesn't know what is
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 6: And so if he's able to lead this nation, the
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  Speaker 6: fact that you don't think Donald Trump is when he
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  Speaker 6: just did it four years ago, is really last Well I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Just asking, I'm just well, all right, take take I
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  Speaker 5: don't think okay, but I'm just saying Biden is not
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  Speaker 5: running for president. So the choices between he is president
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  Speaker 5: he currently now, but he's not running for president. So
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  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody thinks that Vice President Harris you
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  Speaker 5: might not like her, but she's mentally right. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think there's never been a question that she's not mentally stable.
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  Speaker 5: So between her mental cognitive ability to actually function on
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  Speaker 5: a day to day level, you have more confidence in
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  Speaker 5: her day to day mental stability or Donald Trump's mental stability.
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  Speaker 3: Between those two.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have any question about Donald Trump's mental stability.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have any question about Kamala Harris's mental stability.
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  Speaker 6: I think that she's well aware of the policies that
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  Speaker 6: she has produced in her twenty one year career. I
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  Speaker 6: think that she's well aware how it's impacted people that
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  Speaker 6: look like me, and especially people that look like you
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  Speaker 6: black men.
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  Speaker 4: I think that she is.
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  Speaker 6: Very, very strategic in everything that she does, and tonight
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  Speaker 6: was an.
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  Speaker 4: Example of just that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about a few of the issues.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, inflation is something that our audience is very well
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  Speaker 1: aware of, you know, President former President Trump talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Being the worst in history.
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  Speaker 1: That's not factually true, right to like nine percent inflation
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  Speaker 1: during the first year of Obiden administration is down to
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  Speaker 1: two point nine currently. Tracking was an issue that came up,
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  Speaker 1: and we saw, you know, Vice President Harris change her
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  Speaker 1: position on that from her two twenty and twenty stands.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the debate when they talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Affordable Care Act and the question came about
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  Speaker 1: nine years of you having a plan. What is the
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  Speaker 1: plan now? I want to know your thoughts around the answer,
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  Speaker 1: because we didn't really hear a plan, right. It was
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  Speaker 1: trying to repeal it, try to repeal it sixty times.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't work. What is the plan now? What are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts around the party's plan for healthcare going forward?
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  Speaker 6: I think what's going to happen is Affordable Care Act
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  Speaker 6: is going to stay in place. One of the hardest
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  Speaker 6: things to do is reverse policies.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 6: It's easy to reverse an executive order or something that
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  Speaker 6: is written by the president, but it's a lot harder
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  Speaker 6: to reverse some of these negative policies. And while Trump
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  Speaker 6: campaigned on reversing Affordable Care and wanting.
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  Speaker 4: To fix it, it was one of the things that was
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  Speaker 4: very hard to do.
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  Speaker 6: And so I do think that something needs to be
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  Speaker 6: done within the health care system.
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  Speaker 4: What I don't think we need is medicare for all.
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  Speaker 6: What I don't think we need is a single payer system,
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  Speaker 6: which is one of the things that Kamala Harris wants
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  Speaker 6: and or or wanted.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if she wanted.
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  Speaker 6: Today, She could have wanted it yesterday, but it's one
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  Speaker 6: of the things that she wants where everyone will eventually
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  Speaker 6: give up their private insurance and everyone will have government
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  Speaker 6: funded insurance. As someone who is currently on Medicaid and
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  Speaker 6: understanding how that has impacted me and the level of
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  Speaker 6: care and the level of service that I'm able to get,
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  Speaker 6: the wait times at the hospitals, and all of these
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  Speaker 6: different things. Someone who had Obamacare before, who came out
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  Speaker 6: with over fifteen thousand dollars in healthcare bills with Obamacare,
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  Speaker 6: something definitely needs to be done. I'm not necessarily sure
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  Speaker 6: that there's a panacea to fix it all, but definitely
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  Speaker 6: reducing health care costs and making it more transparent is
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  Speaker 6: a beginning.
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  Speaker 5: So all right, So a lot of stuff that they
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  Speaker 5: get that they did not get a chance to talk about, Like,
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  Speaker 5: you're right, they didn't get a chance to talk about
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  Speaker 5: a lot about policy. She had mentioned that she wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do fifty thousand dollar I got tax credit I
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  Speaker 5: think for entrepreneurs.
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  Speaker 1: Called it the opportunity economy, a tax cut up for
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  Speaker 1: six k for families and then a small business owners
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  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars deduction for startups.
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  Speaker 5: So you as a Republican, right, what what's your knock
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  Speaker 5: on a democratic economic policy and would you have liked
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  Speaker 5: to hear Trump like, what are you attracted to from
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  Speaker 5: Trump's economic policy plan.
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  Speaker 6: I'm attracted to low taxes. That it's pretty pretty plain,
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  Speaker 6: pretty clear. I want to see low taxes, and I
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  Speaker 6: also want to see the opportunities increase for minority businesses.
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  Speaker 6: And when I'm talking about opportunities, I'm talking about no
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  Speaker 6: bid federal contracts. I'm talking about increasing the amount specifically
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  Speaker 6: given four and two AA businesses through the Small Business Administration.
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  Speaker 6: Let let's just keep it a buck, right. We know
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  Speaker 6: that Democrats are not the biggest proponent of small businesses,
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  Speaker 6: and we know that like to increase taxes consistently. We
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  Speaker 6: know that they're not the best friends of small businesses.
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  Speaker 6: And we just went through a pandemic where we realized
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  Speaker 6: that in this system, policies tend to favor businesses over people.
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  Speaker 6: So if you were able to show that you had
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  Speaker 6: a business, you were able to get more money than
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  Speaker 6: a person that was struggling without a business. So, framing
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  Speaker 6: this in the true sense of capitalism, what needs to
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  Speaker 6: happen from the government is that they need to create
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  Speaker 6: a culture for my small business to thrive. And the
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  Speaker 6: way that they create that culture is making sure that
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  Speaker 6: we have an economy that is successful and viable for
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  Speaker 6: our businesses to thrive. And one of the things that
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  Speaker 6: she said was she wanted to give us fifty thousand
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  Speaker 6: dollars for startup small businesses. And I'm thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 6: and then what and then who will get that? Because
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  Speaker 6: a lot of times when these policies are predicated specifically
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  Speaker 6: by the Democratic Party, they are marketed to us, but
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  Speaker 6: they are used and the momentum goes to other groups.
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  Speaker 6: They tell us, oh, here's a firmative action, but you
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  Speaker 6: look at who's the proponent and biggest proponents of affirmative action,
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  Speaker 6: and it's not us. They group us in in the
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  Speaker 6: minority category, and then we black people are oftentimes cut
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  Speaker 6: out of a lot of these policies being beneficial for us.
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  Speaker 6: And so her saying that that is what she wants
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  Speaker 6: to do, I want to know how she's going to
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  Speaker 6: pay for it, how she's not going to raise our
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  Speaker 6: taxes to be able to do it, and how this
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  Speaker 6: won't go to those who don't look like us getting
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  Speaker 6: the majority of this. And also what is defined in
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  Speaker 6: her terms as a small business.
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  Speaker 5: Can we bring moment. He's been walking around for oh, man,
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  Speaker 5: I see him. M I don't know if he's able to.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how audio is going to sound. But
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  Speaker 5: let's let's see. Let's let's bring a good friend up here.
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  Speaker 2: Good man. Although he muted it, you muted it, You
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  Speaker 2: muted it.
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  Speaker 3: My brother here?
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  Speaker 8: Man, what's going on, y'all? Stupid man? What's going on
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  Speaker 8: with up?
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  Speaker 3: What's you in Las Vegas right now?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 8: No? I'm in d C. I just had a there
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  Speaker 8: was just a watch party at this spot called the
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  Speaker 8: Park in d C. Y'all need to do an event here.
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  Speaker 8: It's an incredible event. It was just as the watch party.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm outside, man, I'm chilling check.
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  Speaker 4: Watch party too. I think I saw you there.
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  Speaker 8: Were you there too at the park?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was at the park.
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  Speaker 8: And you left talking crazy like that right now, like
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  Speaker 8: what you're talking right now?
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  Speaker 5: But you know, but you know, you know what, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, you know what Congressman Bowman. She understood
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  Speaker 5: that it was going to be thousands of people watching
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  Speaker 5: this live, so she left the party early to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that she was in a room where we can
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  Speaker 5: have with with adequate lighting, quality audio.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, she frozen on mus screen. First of all.
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  Speaker 4: Because because Republicans like to prepare for stuff.
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  Speaker 1: She said, she's using the rooms Wi Fi and not
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  Speaker 1: relying on the flog on your phone.
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  Speaker 3: Democrat Democrats look at that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, my lighting is good, I'm outside. Sound is good.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not frozen.
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  Speaker 2: Street lights I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: Streetlights is better than any like Congressman Congressman Jamaal Bowman
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  Speaker 5: of New York Democratic Congressman.
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  Speaker 3: You watch the debates, what's your thoughts on the debate?
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  Speaker 8: Trump is wild man, Trump is off the shade. Yo.
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  Speaker 8: He was talking about executing babies after birth. That was
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  Speaker 8: wild for the night. He's talking about eating cats and dogs. Wow,
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  Speaker 8: for the night. Listen. I was here three days after
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  Speaker 8: so I was sworn in January third, twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 8: Three days later there was an insurrection. It was incited
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  Speaker 8: by Trump. Yo. Trump said that she wants transgender operations
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  Speaker 8: on migrants in prison. Yo. He just says anything like
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  Speaker 8: he puts the most like the words that's most scary
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  Speaker 8: to together in a sentence and just puts it out there.
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  Speaker 8: And he's like yo, yo, because he knows his basic
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  Speaker 8: of the feed all over that shit. Listen, I'm a Democrat,
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  Speaker 8: but I'm not, you know, rather die democrat like I
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  Speaker 8: never criticized us. A lot we need to do better,
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  Speaker 8: and a lot we can't do better. But when we
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  Speaker 8: talk about comparison between you know, Kamala Harris and Trump,
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  Speaker 8: to me, it's no comparison. I think she wanted the base.
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  Speaker 8: She couldn't even trusted him even more, like I wish
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  Speaker 8: she would have hit him when he talked about the
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  Speaker 8: bad economy and inflation when I first got here, well, right,
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  Speaker 8: the fuck no, I'm sorry, I'm lying. When he first
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  Speaker 8: came in trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
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  Speaker 8: So if you're one of the wealthiest Americans, absolutely you
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  Speaker 8: support Trump. He came in trillion dollar tax cuts for them. That,
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  Speaker 8: in addition to no corporate responsibility, is why we have inflation,
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  Speaker 8: because corporations have been raising taxes on your groceries, on
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  Speaker 8: everything else and they haven't come down post pandemic. And
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  Speaker 8: so she's going to go after that, which is part
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: of her economic policy, to bring down those costs. When
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: we talk about inflation, that's what we're talking about, you know.
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: And again they didn't get a lot in the policy
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: because he's wild and they're just going back and forth
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: on character stuff. But yeah, man, it was you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: you know she I thought she wanted debate. I thought
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: she could have killed him even more. She should have
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: brought up the tax cuts. She should have brought up
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: the tens of billions of dollars that the Body administration
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: has forgiven in terms of student loans. When he brought
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: student loans, I'm like, yo, hit him with the data.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: My wife is one of the people who had benefited.
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: She's a third grade teacher. Student loans canceled. She didn't
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: really hit him with that. A couple of times she
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: could have hit him, But he's just a wild dude.
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: Like he's wild, and like, if you want again the
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: system is broken, corrupt, whatever, but that's not because of
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: because of white supremacy. If you want just complete chaos
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: and n our key and and and white nationalism, which
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: is what he represents, cool vote Trump. But if you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: trying to get to some sense of stability, in my opinion,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: it's Kamala. But as you both know you heard me
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: talk before, it's not just her, it's how are we
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: holding the House and the Senate accountable and local elected
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: officials accountable to do the right thing by our people.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Congressman Bowman, do we know who Abdul is and why
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: his house?
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: So that's what I'm saying, Like, what did he say?
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: I spoke that dude. I told him you better not
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: do it like this.
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: Dude is all.
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: The shade son And like again no, I don't, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: personally don't know who he is.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Don't I do not know he is.
• 18:58
  Speaker 11: But but again that.
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: That's speak to our foreign policy, right and again, we
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: still have a foreign policy when we're sending billions of
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: dollars a year to Israel to support a genocide not
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: just in my opinion, but according to an international courts.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: But we also have a foreign policy that supports child
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: migrants in uh the Congo mining cobalt with their hands.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: That supports all of our technology and they're not getting
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: the financial benefits of that. We also have a foreign
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: policy support they're mining coal.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: That must be what you're talking about.
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: Thank you very much. I appreciate that, thank you, even
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: though I still think it might be cobalt. But that's fine.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Black children using their hands in their African country mining
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: raw materials that the meaning white people, meaning Trump's white
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: supremacy is using to build wealth, and African nations are
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: on benefit of that, benefiting from that. So that's again
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: connected to our foreign policies all funked up. Listen. The
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: American political system is rooted in white supremacy, and we
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: on the ground locally and nationally need to continue organized
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: to push against that. So that's a part of it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Are you a part of white supremacy and black face
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: and your position in Congress? Because the truth of the
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: matter is you and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of these politicians who have been in office
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: for decades. Kamala Harris has been doing this for twenty
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: one plus years, almost older than me.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: Not in Congress.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Hold up, Hold up, listen, listen. Joe Biden has definitely
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: been there long ago.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: Been talking about Biden.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: We're talking about the system. I thought we were just
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: talking about the system. Let's second, let.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Me finish, black man, black man, you have voted to
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: send that money over there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: You have earned hold on you have voted.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: You are.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Let me finish that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Let finish you respond on blaming my time.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: You have voted and been a part of a party
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: that upholds, built, cultivated, and created these systems. Dare I
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: even say perfected them? Dare I even say perfected them?
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: And So to sit here and to say that our
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: political system is all of these things when you're in
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: it right now, when a lot of the people that
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: we see coming across our screens and creating the policy
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: have been there for decades. At the end of the day,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: whether or not Trump is polished or not, because he's
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: been doing this for four years versus the person that's
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: been doing it for twenty one or before.
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: Y'all.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: Oh no, reverse biten up out of there, who has
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: been doing it for multiple decades. They uphold all of it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: And your party in particular, has been one who has
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: created policies that have negatively impacted people that look.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Like me and you while sending that money overseas.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: So I'm just trying to understand, if it's rooted in
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: white supremacy, then are you a white supremacist in black
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: face that's upholding these structures.
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: So again, you obviously don't know me and don't know
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: my record to even be.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Talking to peopulled the fire alarm.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: You lost your election, and now you're sitting outside in
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: DC after having a couple of drinks at.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: An event we were just at, i know, spending his
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: time with our lovely audience.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'd say, at that, thank you absolutely.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: And that's besides the point that last point you just said.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: But anyway, the Republican and the Democratic Party have both
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: been complicit in supporting white supremacist ideology. So let's be
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: clear about that. In my opinion, the Democrats still have
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: done more to support working class people and marginal people
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: in our country. For example, we continue to support social Security,
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: we continue to support Medicare, we continue to support the
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: Department of Education and other federal offices that serve the
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: most marginalized people. I still want the party to go
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: further with issues like reparations, with issues like the George
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: Floyd Justice and Policing Act, and many other issues. So
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: just want to be clear about that. Republicans, in my opinion,
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: this modern day Republican partyment, I'm talking about a hundred
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: years ago, twenty years ago, talking about Monday Republican Party.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: When I pulled that fire alarm, to use your example,
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: they tried to paint me as one of the insurrectionists
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: from January sixth. That was crazy. They have no policies
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: or very little that support the upliftment of our communities.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: Whether it's affordable housing, whether it's childcare, whether it's paid lead,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: whether it's entrepreneurship, whether it's reparations. None of that's party support,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: and so the system has to change.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Oh gas like us right, don't talk about don't talk
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: about the things that you guys support when you know
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: that your party wasn't the one that created them.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Like, how dare you say that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Republicans don't support small or minority businesses who cultivated wrote
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: the bill for the Small Business Administration to be an
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: administration for the AA program which provides those no bid
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: contracts for businesses like mine to be able to work
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: with the federal government in the way that we're able
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: to work with them. That was a Republican that wrote
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: that bill. There was a Republican that started the Small
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: Business Administration and the programs that are predicated from the
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Small Business Administration once again founded by Republicans. So you
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: can't say that you're supporting these things when the inception
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: of those policies, the inception of Social Security and the
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: inception of all of these things were predicated by Republicans.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: But what I will say is that both parties do
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: need to do a better job when it comes to
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: tending to the issues of black people and speaking to
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: issues of black people.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: The problem that we have here is only one of
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: those parties relies on the black community to stay in
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: positions of power for decades, only one of them. Only
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: one of those parties promises things every election year, year
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: after year, the exact same things, and produces absolutely no
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: policies for their communities. And I live in a very
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: blue city that was in a red state. I may
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: be in DC right now, but I understand how this works.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I used to also live in California when Kamala Harris
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: was my senator and she was also my Attorney general.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: So I've lived under the rule of both Democrats and Republicans.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: And what I will say and what I can say
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: is in some of the largest cities that are ran
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: by blue and I'm talking super majority, the entire council
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: is blue, the mayor is a Democrat. The areas that
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: we live in look the worst, and they rely on
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: us year after year to give them our vote. In
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: exchange for absolutely nothing. So at the end of the day,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: if anybody else the Black community anything, whether that be policy,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: whether that be reparations, it is definitely the party that
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: use our backs to get ahead.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: One of the key points of it debate tonight was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: around another policy, and it was.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The women's right to choose the topic of abortion. Okay, yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: we're gonna bring them.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I just want to I want to get both their takes, obviously,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: because it's gonna be two different stances here.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Obviously, as a.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Woman, we saw former President Trump have false things about
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Democrats wanted the execution of babies after birth, which I mean,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: no state is that allowed. Then he also talked about
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: being a leader in IVF. Vice President Harris talked about
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: her support for roth we Wade. So I want to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: know your thoughts about women's rights to choose as it
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: relates to this this election and women in general, specifically
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Black women.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm gonna let your the other guests. I'm sorry,
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: I can't see her name on the screen. What's her name?
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: No, No, you can go ahead. I just had a
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: whole diet tribe. Go ahead. I'm very interested to hear
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: your thoughts.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to quickly just you
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: mentioned a small business administration and one of the major problems.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, we're going back.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: No, No, I just need to respond to that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I just want to make sure no.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: You gave a whole dying tribe to you about. It's
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: a real champion for black people, and the number one
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: thing black people lack as it relates to entrepreneurship is capital,
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: which the Small Business Administration is supposed to provide. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: when I first got here, I couldn't believe brother brother,
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: brother Troy, how the Small Business Administration was funded and
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: like one two million dollars while we were sending three
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: point eight billion dollars overseas to support a country that
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: is one of the most fiscally responsible to financially wealthy
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: in the world. So we're not even funding the Small
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: Business Administration at the level we need to. So I
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: just want to make that point in terms of rod
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: v Way, the bottom line is it's not in the
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: federal government to tell a woman what to do with
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: her body.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Woman.
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: That's that choice between a woman and her doctor. Period.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: All this shit that you know Trump talking about about,
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: you know, full term abortions. That's like assassinate the baby
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: as crazy.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: What's lost in that is the issue of maternal mortality
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: or maternal morbidity and infantmortality that continues to play the
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: entire nation and continues to play Black women disproportionately. We're
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: not talking about healthcare as from a preventative perspective and
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: the instructive institutional racism system that presists that health care
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: we're not talking about that because we're talking about this
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: issue of abortion. And then Trump says, you know, wild
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: stuck and so you know, again, women could do whatever
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: they want to do with their body. That's not the
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: federal development of truth. We should support it. The healthcare system. Trump,
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: you know, is on the complete on the side of that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: Conservatives are as well, and it's just a dangerous, dangerous
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: president president not just for world we Wade, but for
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: the issue of civil rights that we have fought for,
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: the Voting Rights Act, Roe v. Wade, affirmative action, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: someone like Trump appointing Supreme Court justices who are then
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: taking out of Wade. So now it's like we're starting
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: to at square zero for things we fought for and
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: people have died for during the civil rights movement. So
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: it's all about are we continuing that we'll evolve as
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: a country towards a liberal democracy and true freedom for everyone?
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: Are we just going to allow conservative evangelical Zionists to
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: control what we do and how we think and how
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: we behave.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: I guess this is my turn to There's so much
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: to say, and there's so much to unpack here. As
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: a black woman who has had a child, what I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: not going to do is downplay infinite maternal mortality rates.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: There's a very serious issue and a very serious problem.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: But I'm also never going to tell a woman that
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: she should eradicate the life inside of her, specifically a
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: black woman.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I don't believe. And finish, I sat here so quiet.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: I'm not very hold on, hold on, I was very
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: demure and very cute.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Did you just use the word thank you to clarify?
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: I allowed for.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Him to speak, so now allow for me to give
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: my thoughts. I'm not going to ever advocate for a
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: black woman to eradicate the life inside of her.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I am someone who is very much pro life, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I do believe that it is within the black community,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: it is within our nature to be pro life. My ancestors,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: my family came over here and were imported on ships
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: with chains, made to work in the fields. I am
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: here because they chose life. So enduring rape, enduring slavery,
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: and all of the things that my ancestors had to
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: go through, they consistently still chose to have their children,
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: which is why we're able to be here today. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: so what I'm not going to do is have and
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: tell black women that whatever the circumstances of their life
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: are right now, that the life growing inside of them
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: does not matter. I am someone who was born drug
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: addicted with alcohol in her system. My mother was told
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: to abort me, and she chose to check into rehab
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: to have me.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm here on this platform.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Tonight in front of all of these people because she
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: chose life. But what I think that Republicans need to
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: do is shift from being pro life into pro livelihood.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: And being pro livelihood is what is the life of
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: that child going to be when it's here? What resources
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: do we have to support that mother? How are we
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: supporting adoption? I'm someone who's adopted. How are we supporting adoption?
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: How are we making it easy for these women to
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: take care of these children that we want them to have,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: and I think that that's where policy and funds need
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: to flow and go. But telling black women that they
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: need to eradicate the lives inside of them, I don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: think that that's true. And I also think that we
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: should not be using abortion as an answer to some problems,
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: which are the fact that we are having casual sex,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: and we're deciding to have casual sex, and there are
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: repercussions for every action, there's a reaction. So there is
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: a choice to lay down with that man, there's a
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: choice to have unprotected sex with that man. There's a
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: choice not to use Plan B, and then there's a
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: choice to terminate. And so if we're not helping women
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: to make better decisions before they get to the choice
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: to terminate, if they know that they are barely surviving
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: themselves and are looking for some type of relief, it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: not having an abortion. And I don't think that we
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: should be utilizing that as a method for poor decision
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: making skills. And I understand in case in cases of rape,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: in cases of incests, in cases of life of the mother,
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: as Trump said tonight, but utilizing it as some type
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: of tool and saying that, well, it's your right that
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: you can kill the life insiety. I just don't believe
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: in that, and I don't believe that that's something that
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: we should be doing. But because it went from the
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Dobbs decision back into the state's hands, what people can
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: do is decide who you're electing on a state level
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: that makes these decisions for your state. So nothing happened
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: after Dobbs was overturned in California.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: All of the laws stayed the same.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: You want to know why, because the people in California
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: place people in office to purport the laws that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: They wanted to see. If you don't like the abortion
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: laws in your.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: State, then you need to get active on your local
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: level and start voting in these state house elections so
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: that you can change the policies on a state level.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: And those elections are usually every four years or every
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: two years.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: So let's bring up Congressman Bowman. We thank you for
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: your time. We're gonna sub you out. We're going to
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: sub you out on this trying Tad god Man one quick.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Thirty seconds, and thank you for everything you just said.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: And I agree it needs to be a continuing conversation,
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: particularly in the black community in particular. Absolutely, But when
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: you talk about livelihood, I agree with that as well.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: But understand from my experience and I think from evidence,
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Republicans don't care about their livelihood. Man. They haven't shown
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: instinct engagement and caring about Black women in this country,
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: women in this country, the Department of Education, which is
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: critical funding, the small business administration, or reparations or any
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: of that. They don't care about lobblihoods. They care about
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: rhetoric and sensationalism and their own power, particularly continuing white
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: supremacy through tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and so.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: But the other stuff that you were talking about about
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: continued conversations about what's happening in our communities that leads
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: to poor decisions. I'm with you on that one hundred percent.
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: Let's let's continue to talk about that. And Brothers, thank
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: you so much for having me on Man, good to
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: see you.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you always, Man, appreciate you always.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a parting word for Congressman Bowman.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: What I would say, since he seems to be a
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: big advocate and proponent of reparations, is for him to
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: go ahead and give Gavin Newsom a call and have
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: that reparations build that Democrats are keeping from being heard
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: in California, go ahead and allow that to be heard,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: and utilize his position of power within Congress and the
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: bullypool pit that he has to advocate for reparations movements
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: such as what's happening in Chicago that is being currently
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: blocked by his own party that is apparently upholding white
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: supremacy as well.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I think he's still told, yeah, we gotta let him go.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: We got it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: We got Michael Blake, former assemblyman and vice chair of
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the Democratic you were formerly the vice chair of the
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Democratic National Committee.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Right, and also.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Also Obama Obama staffer. Thank you for joining us.
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: Always good to be with y'all, whether it be at
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: Carnegie Hall all on. I g we're gonna make it
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: all happen out.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Here for sure, to make it happen.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you uh, you tagged out Jamal Bowman very
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: spirited debate that he was having. So we've been talking
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: about this, this debate situation, right, and it's a few
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: topics that we have not talked about. One of the
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: main topics that Trump kept bringing up you, but yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: just leave it like that was immigration. This He's been
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: hitting this topic hard and hard and hard, and some
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: say that it's fear mongering, right, and he's trying to
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: pin people against each other, vulnerable populations against each other
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: when he talks about black jobs and Latino jobs being
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: taken by immigrants from Venezuela and.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: So okay, he says that Kamala Harris is the worst
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: vice president of American history, and she's done a terrible
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: job at the border. The borders are So what is
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: your stance as far as immigration? Even in New York
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: City has been a major issue for Maar Adams? So
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: what is your stance as far as the immigration issue
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: in America right now? And how do Democrats have approached it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: I appreciate you and appreciate y'all giving the space I'm
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: an addressed immigration right now, and also some of the
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: things I heard earlier. So let's start from the place
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: of on the conversation around immigration. If you want to
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: assess Donald Trump as a failure, his fundamental policy proposal
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: that he ran on was to build a walk. So
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: whenever we hear this racist, sexist foolishness from him, we
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: should be very clear that the fundamental thing he said
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: he would get done when he talked about Mexican any
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: rapists and all these other things, was that he would
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: build a walk didn't happen. The rhetoric right now around
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: immigration that he's trying to highlight is a framing of
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: what that our cities are getting worse, even though everything
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: from an economic standpoint, in terms of growth, in terms
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: of cost of living, in terms of what's happening in
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: your pockets that actually gotten better. Now the feeling someone
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: may have, you can picture your face all you want,
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: I heard the point about SBA. Actually, just for a
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: point of fact, there were several things of a state
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: that were utterly incorrect. I random minority I Rand, the
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: Minority Business program at the White House said earlier around dynamic,
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: there's a difference between minority.
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: Business and small business.
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: We talk about the actual dynamics in Twina around immigration.
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: The Minority Business Development Agency under President and bidened by
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: President Harris actually became an under secretary. That did not
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: happen under Trump. That's equally tied to the immigration conversation.
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: Because we talk about jobs and the opportunities that are
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: created by all this. We have better growth in our
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: communities by actually helping our immigrant brothers and sisters continue.
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: To get acts keep.
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: I'm not even sure what the well I heard something
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: about the moor earlier. I'm not sure if that's actually
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: the case, because maybe you're not liking what I'm saying.
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: So let's be very clear about the data. The data
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: actually to the immigration question is how are we making
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: this a policy substance of conversation rather than the rhetoric
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: two off? Then it is being utilized by trying to
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: say that the Latino community is heard in black folk
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: and so white folk should be scared. Well, as a
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: Jamaican American, I should care about immigration, we should care
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: about these dynamics here, which we do.
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: But well, well you cut, here's all you want. All
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: we've heard, We've we've heard.
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: All your talking points, so that we have not really
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: talked through is that the vice presidential pick on their side,
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: which Trump actually said in the debate that he doesn't
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: talk to you about policies such as abortion and healthcare,
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: was the one talking about Haitians. So so from a
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: standpoint around the substance on immigration, where again immigrant communities
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: are actually making more money under this president, the previous president.
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: We are alive now again, I'm not I'm not even
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: gonna get caught up in it because because they can't
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: go back on actual substance between the two presidencies, or
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: we talk through from a dynamic of health and wellness
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: from a COVID pandemic, which he took no credit around
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: addressing the dynamics.
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: It was immigrant.
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: Communities that were a negative bla impact. Now to your question,
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: moving forward to the brothers here, where we go from
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: here In terms of the policies itself, I would rather
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: have someone who is actually saying, let's safely and securely
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: address what's going on the border, not about just trying
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: to build a wall, which is not realistic in this degree,
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: while also finding ways to address what's going on in
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: other countries from a democracy standpoint, which Trump is not
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: doing when it comes to Venezuela and other places, as
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: well as the fundamental economic conditions a wht of people
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: are coming here in the first place, So all these
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: things are intertwined to the question. And at the end
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: of the day, when we talk about the economics, whether
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: it be internationally or domestically, we have one person who
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: actually laid out an opportunity economy that would benefit immigrant
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: communities as opposed to the other who is actually trying
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: to push people away. Lastly, to an immigration conversation which
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: they find all these different dynamics. As a reverend, when
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: I hear earlier that these communities, in particular black women
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: need to have responsible decisions and choices, as if they're
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: just being careless and just sleeping around, the notion of
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: that is intertwined.
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: Well, actually that was what we were just saying.
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: Was said that they should make better decisions Friday.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: It's not.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: That that might is over and so agreed. That's a
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Memphis thing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, they froze them up. They froze them up.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll add to that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Because of the immigration point.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: When when former President Trump was talking about the numbers
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of migrants entering the country, he said it was over
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: twenty million. I'll let uh I represent Blake speaking a second,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: he said the number was twenty million.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Oficle came back.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Obviously in fact checked and said that the number was
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: grossly over exaggerated.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: About half. That still an issue.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: But Vice President Harris also said that there was a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: bipartisan group of senators that introduced a border security bill
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that Trump urged to demise. So, in a sense, you're
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: talking about immigration and how to combat it, but when
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the bills comes you don't want it to pass.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts in rebuttal to that, I have a
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: lot to say.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I believe is it Blake? Is that his name?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yesel like I am okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: I'm going to frame my answer based upon our different experiences.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: As soon as you said that you were a Jamaican American,
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: it immediately let me know your relationship to this country.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: And so because your relationship to this country is that
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: you were an immigrant and your family wasn't imported through
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: the slave trade, I understand that you're not a.
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: Decision true, it's not true. Let's just let's just stop there.
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: Don't say anything about my family. I was born in
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: the Bronx. You're about to see some again, but again.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Making American born abron Let's keep it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Let's keep born in the Bronx.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: He is a Jamaican American. I didn't state that I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: not a Jamaican nothing. I am a freeman. I'm descendant.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: I'm a descendant of chattel slavery. Me with the Jenney
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Gates my family, there is no Jamaica, there is no
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: Caribbean for me to go back to. So his proclivity
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: and how he sees this country, it's going to be
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: completely different than.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Someone who was a descendant of chattel slavery.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: Completely different. So of course he wants more immigrants here.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Of course, immigration, specifically illegal immigration.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: To him, as he's it is a sign of growth.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: Of course, he believes that we should be utilizing our
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: tax dollars, in our resources to support people who've come
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: over here, who've broken the law to be in this country,
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: because it benefits his family, it benefits the story.
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: Yo, yo yo. You can have a policy conversation.
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna say this again again, it's the third it's
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: the third time. If comments have referenced my family.
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: I just want to be real clear. You can have
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: any policy comments.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I'm saying American.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Out of it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: You're going to talk about his lineage, which is making American,
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: which is what.
• 45:44
  Speaker 11: But you're literally afraid you've really literally.
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: A phraised about crime and illegal and that I supported
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: a legal immigration because what family like. Just again, if
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: you want to talk about.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Policies, let's just keep it. Let's just keep it power.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't even gotten to crime yet.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about illegal immigration and utilizing our tax dollars
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: and our resources to fund and support illegal immigrants. I'm
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: not talking about people who came here with papers. I'm
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: talking about illegal immigrants eleven million that have crossed eleven
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: million accounting that have crossed the border since Biden and Harris,
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: and since Harris has been.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: The borders are has taken over.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about the resources of tax dollars that have
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: gone from American citizens to support their housing, to support
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: getting them food. I do not believe that we, as Americans,
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: specifically black Americans that are descendants of slavery, should have
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: our tax dollars utilized for illegal immigrants that have come
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: to this country without going through the proper immigration process
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: that we have currently in order and get our money
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: and get funded and get.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Nine and plus dollars in Chicago.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: For rent, and be able to get more money in
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: food stamps since Snap and tan if in all of
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: these benefits, and be able to utilize our tax dollars
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: to get free legal service that's happening right in Indianapolis,
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: in my own city.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: I think it is one the first step to making
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: America not a sovereign nation is to bust open our
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: borders like a bag of chips. I think that that
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: is completely wrong too. I think it's also completely wrong
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: for us to basically and this is what it feels like.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And whether or not you say this is what it is.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: It feels like you're abandoning the citizens and supporting the
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: illegal immigrants.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Why let me drive people who have been waiting.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: On lists for them to open up the Section eight
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: voucher program, the Housing Choice voucher program. There are people
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: who have been waiting years on list, people.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: That look like me and you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: However, illegal immigrants are getting upwards of nine thousand dollars
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: in housing stipens in Chicago to pay like. This is
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: not okay and it's not right. And the problem that
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: we have, and the problem I have with the Biden
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Harris administration and the problem I have with their policies,
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: is that when they got into office, specifically Biden, he
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: started repealing the remain in Mexico policies that Trump had
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: put in place. He stopped construction on the border wall
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: that was being constructed.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: They stopped construction.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: On the border wall, and they basically reversed a lot
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: of the immigration policies that Trump put in place on purpose.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: Then our borders got busted open like a bag of chips, right,
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: illegal immigrants jumping across daily, bringing drugs, committing crimes in
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: this country, which this is proven facts that this is happening.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: You have gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado, and
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: so you have failed policy from a federal level, and
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: then you have sanctuary cities, which has failed policy from
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: a city level, and it's compounding. And then you have
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: a group of people, black people in the black community
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: who have been screaming for decades that we need resources
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: in our community, and we're watching resources go out of
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: our community. We're talking about we need to fix our
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: schools because they're bad, and they're shutting the schools down
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: and they're housing migrants in the schools. If the fact
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: that you even think that all of this leads to
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: growth is asinine to me. What I think needs to
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: happen and what I think did not happen. And the
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: reason it didn't happen is because they waited three years
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: until the polls came out about how bad that border was,
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: and then they wanted to institute they being Biden Harris
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: wanted to institute a policy to remain in Mexico, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: then they in an election, Ye're wanted to create a
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: piece of legislation to say, oh, yeah, I guess we
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: do need to fund the border. After Kamala says, you
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: wanted to give medicaid and medic free health care to
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: all the imigrants.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: We don't even have enough for the American citizens.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: How you won't give it to people who are even
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: from here, who haven't been paying into our system. I
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: think the entire thing is asked tonight, and I think
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: it's neglectful to American citizens if you do it.
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: Are we gonna are we gonna fact We're gonna fact check.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give it to you. I promise.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you have the floor in terms of the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: fact check that he actually brought up there grower Colorado
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: situation with Venezuelan gangs that has been disputed and come
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: to be false. That's been I'll tell you, I'm not
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: saying that. I'm not saying that, I under saying what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: was brought up political just put out the fact check
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: sheet and that was one of.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: The things Colorado, the mayor of Aura Colony mean, not
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: mean federal policy.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Not me.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying when he brought it up, it came
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: up on the political fact she as one of those things.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: But Shoty, I'm giving you Flora. Let's reset the reset
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: the room, My brothers.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Reset the room. We do have five thousand people on
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: the lit share. This is a very spirited conversation.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: I have a feeling that, mister Blake, you want to
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: re butt some of the things that you just said.
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: Well, let's just do a quick black history lesson here.
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: The fact of saying that Jamaica the Caribbean is not
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: connected to slavery. You might have forgotten.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Well, I never said that they're not connected to slavery.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: Their boat dropped them off at a different location.
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: That's not what But no, no, no, but again again,
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: again again again again, You're you're you're the we don't
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: want to lineage. I thought we didn't want to talk
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: about you know, I know you.
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: I know that you are a.
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: Trump surrogate or even Trump appointee or campaign whatever it
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: may be. But you can't ignore on campaign the facts.
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: You can't ignore the facts that you this is rhetoric.
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: No, I'm actually trying to make sure. I'm reminding myself.
• 52:03
  Speaker 11: I'm a referend one.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Well man, he keeps seeing.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: This is the Democrats don't be prepared for nothing.
• 52:14
  Speaker 11: Internet.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Trump was bringing broadband.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Blake.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: You're chopping it out.
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: It's it's it's it's stopped. It stopped to your previous
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: point in respect to the Brothers. It stopped previously because
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: I wanted the pause to make sure I was intentional
• 52:33
  Speaker 10: what I said there.
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: To the point around immigration, the rhetoric is that the.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, got all right, very interesting.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure if you're getting yeah, your
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: your connection is getting interrupted. I'm not sure if there's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a stronger WiFi, or maybe there might be messages coming in.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I know, after the debate, I'm sure your phone is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: going crazy. It looks clear. Now you want to try again, Yeah.
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: Just simply they don't have a real plan. It's just
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: lies and nonsense. So we should go to other things
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: y'all want to talk through, because all they want to
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: do is make sure and make you think that black
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: people and let you know people and white folks don't
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: want to get along on immigration, all.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Right, So I mean you came in. I'm interested in
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: that ninety minute debate after it's done. Your initial reaction
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to it was what, as far as Vice President Harris,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: how she conducted herself, how former President Trump, how you
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: handled himself. We talked about the word on his prior
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to you coming on. What were your thoughts overall about
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the debate from the Democratic side, and I guess I'll
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: hear from the opposing side as well.
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: She laid out how people can make more money, keep
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: more money, and do better. He never took a responsibility
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: for January sixth, for the COVID pandemic or anything that
• 54:05
  Speaker 10: was hurting our communities.
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: She made it very.
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: Clear that we should give anyone the ability to make
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: a choice when it comes to pro choice.
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: He would not actually answer the question.
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: When asked twice about beating an abortion band, she said
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: small businesses should have fifty thousand dollars.
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: Of the deductions.
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: He literally said that while running for a third time president.
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: He doesn't have a plan for health care. So we
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: can remove the rhetoric and the talking points and the feelings.
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: If you want to do better, live longer, make more money,
• 54:45
  Speaker 10: have a chance to actually grow and win, you had
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: someone who laid out a vision for that, and Vice
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: President Harris on the other side as a black man,
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: Donald Trump, who was sued because they want to let
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: black and brown people get access to housing, who called
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: for the death penalty to Central Park five, who said
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: that we come from shithold countries and that these black
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: jobs and Hispanic jobs are low wage jobs. Still can't
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: tell you at all how you specifically will do better.
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: He spent more time talking about people eating pats than
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: how you actually get a job. So we talk about
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: the debate and making it real clear for folks their strategy,
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: his strategy is not about trying to help more people
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: to do better, is that they believe that black and
• 55:47
  Speaker 10: brown folks will not show up to vote, that they're
• 55:50
  Speaker 10: not going to be engaged, and we're not going to
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: be engaged. Because he had no game plan. I mean,
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: in what world what business plan would you ever be
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: in a conversation where someone actually as you, do you
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: have a plan? And your answer was no, I have
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: concepts on something like healthcare. And so to your question,
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: it was clear. It was obvious. And that's the reason
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: why we keep talking about the Cairos. This is our
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: moment to make it very plain and simple that his
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: disdain for us, which has been consistent for decades, not
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: just an election. It's not me saying it. It's him
• 56:31
  Speaker 10: who said twice about African American black and Hispanic jobs
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: being low wage jobs. It's him who said that he
• 56:39
  Speaker 10: would not give you an answer about an abortion band
• 56:42
  Speaker 10: and the vetoing of it and the rhetoric that is
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: about pro life. It's not pro life pro choice by itself,
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: it's do you have a choice? Are you saying to
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: someone about them having a choice. It's the reason from
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: a data perspective to bring this home. It is the
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: largest gap when it comes to choice between two candidates
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: on record ever, because it's not just Democratic women that
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: are feeling this, it's Republican independent women who are just like, oh,
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: hell now, we ain't trying to do this.
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: And so for the next fifty five days.
• 57:18
  Speaker 10: You can ask yourself, everybody, you're a vice president who
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: was at the Capitol when an insurrection was called on
• 57:24
  Speaker 10: the Capitol where he would not directly say, would you
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: actually accept the results if this occurred again and tell
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: people to be actually truly peaceful.
• 57:35
  Speaker 11: So at the end of the day, to your question. Yeah,
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: you know i'd landed.
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: I got delayed in itself, So yeah, the internet could
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: try to slow you down, but God will slow it down.
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: We're gonna be able to rock here. I've heard the
• 57:47
  Speaker 11: points for black folk. Our choice is either.
• 57:53
  Speaker 10: Someone who's actually trying to help us to grow into
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: win or someone who has literally tried to call for
• 58:01
  Speaker 10: us to be killed.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, rebuttal, let's just talk about it.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Kamala Harris.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: Why not Kamala Harris after they bounced Joe Biden and
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: hit the UNO reverse once they realized he wasn't going
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: to be able to beat Donald Trump, and they removed
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: him as their candidate. Kind of like how Jamal Bowman
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: was here and now you're here. So I've gone up
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: against two people tonight. It seems to happen a lot
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: to Republicans. But the truth of the matter is when
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Kamala Harris was the district attorney and when she was
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: the Attorney General, she was not a friend to our community.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: When I say not a friend, she created policies that
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: are still in place today and helped to champion and
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: advocate for policies that locked up people that looked like us,
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: and that kept us in chains and in prison when
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: we were supposed to be out. Kamala Harris wrote a
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: book when she was a prosecutor, and she said that
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: the more police in a community, the safer the community
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: is going to be. That the visualization of police presence
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: in that community is what is going to keep you safe. Now,
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: she said that when she was a prosecutor, but then
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: when she ran for president in twenty twenty, she wanted
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: to defund the police. Then she says she didn't want
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: to defund the police, and now she says that she
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: supports the police. The truth is that she's a flip
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: flopper and she will say whatever is politically profitable.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: For her to win.
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: That's what she's always done, which is why on twenty
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: one different issues she's flip flopped back and forth. The
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: truth is, it doesn't really matter what Kamala thinks. She's
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: a symbol with no substance, a symbol of a black woman, allegedly,
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: sometimes black first, sometimes Indian first. It depends on which
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: audience is going to it's going to play better to right.
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: She'll do whatever is politically possible to stay.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: In Aisle, Yo, I'm not sure if that's fair.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: Yo, what I mean?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean give give let's American brother, No, no, no,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: let's let's let's just give to that.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: Why y'all interrupt me because you didn't like what I said.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't like what you said. I just want to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: know the truth of what you said.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: It's actual that when that when she ran for office?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: Was she not considered the first Indian American? Was that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: not the headline?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Google it?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: Google it actually wasn't it Actually wasn't. Actually wasn't.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: I was.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: Just asked the question.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: No, I'm just.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Harris first Black v P.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: Whicheverone plays better to the audience is what she will
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: be just saying, I'm I'm not good up saying every time.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: If they lead with Indian and she negates or doesn't
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: add black, then that's on her. If they lead with
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: black and she doesn't add Indian, then that is too
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: on her. If her identity and the dimensionality of who
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: she is is intersectional at many different places, Black, Jamaican, Indian, whatever, Asian,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: whatever it is that she wants to be, she should
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: lead with that each and every time, and it shouldn't
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: be a question and The reason why the black community
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: in particular feels this kind of way because these conversations
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: are happening, is because of the way in which she's led.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: She will say whatever and do whatever is politically profitable.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: And the truth is, she is.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: The second most powerful person in the United States of America.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: If Joe Biden slipped and fell, which he tends to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: do quite often, she becomes president and commander in chief.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: That's the truth. And she's been in the White House
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: for three and a half years, and what they've done
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: while they were there is create chaos. And I'm not
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: even just talking about chaos on our home front. I'm
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: talking about chaos abroad. We've had weak foreign affairs. We
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: have a weak economy. They're fudging their job numbers. Oh,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: eight hundred and sixteen jobs, a thousand jobs off like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: they're fudging their job numbers. They're withholding stories from the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: media and controlling their own narratives. They're telling us that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: he's cognizant and he's the guy to take us all
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: the way.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: And then aged allegedly allegedly they're fudging job numbers.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: We know there was a mistake. They corrected it well.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: The way you said, it was like, it's.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: We don't know what their intentionality is.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: So then we got if we don't know, then we
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: got to say.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: What their intentionality is?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: We know.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Should we be having those types of mistakes? Is the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: question that you have to ask your We.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: See corporation, You see corporations do it all the time.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: What you are so, so then our federal government should
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: do it? Is that what you're saying.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that. That's why.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: It's sure that that's not where you were.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: No, we're saying alleged is.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: What we're saying, should be able who trust our federal government.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: We should be able to trust the agencies. We should
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: be able to have a faith in them that they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: are going to take care of their citizens. We should
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: have a trust in them that they're going to utilize
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: the tax dollars that we give them in an efficient way.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: Like those are things that we should just trust from
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: our legislative and our executive branches. And the truth is
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: that we can't trust them because career politicians like Joe Biden,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: career politicians like Kamala Harris, who have been in many
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: positions of powers at every single level for years and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: years and years promise to do all of these things
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: all the time, and they do absolutely nothing. So if
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: you feel your life is better off under Biden, if
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: your pockets are fatter, if your business is doing well,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: if you got money to take your trips, and you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: don't have an issue with inflation, you don't have an
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: issue with gas prices, you don't have an issue with
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: all of this money that we're utilizing to fund other
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: wars and fund immigrants, then that's fine.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: About for her.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: We're gonna get a whole bunch of what we've always gotten,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: which is absolutely nothing.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: We realize the reason why he's former President Trump is
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: that the American people thought that he was such a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: disaster in running the government. So the notion of well,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: the trust of the government and the services was because
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: of how poorly he ran the COVID pandemic to that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: complete degree.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: And so so.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: So I am, I am grateful that it has been
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 10: said out loud that yes, when it comes to who
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: do you trust for your government, he lost because Americans
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: don't trust him with the government. He is losing right
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: now because Americans don't trust him on the government. The
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: polls if the election were today in the battle around states,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: she is ahead in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. Those three alone
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: giver two seventy so to the degree what was said,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: I am so happy that you just said it out loud.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: This is this is a decision we heard to talk
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: about like, this is a decision around.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: This is a decision around let him cook. Now we
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 10: heard the talking points. This is a decision right now
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: on do you just said it again? Make sure everyone
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: focuses on the cook that was just said. As Americans,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: do you trust what the government is doing? He lost
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: because folks don't. He is losing because people don't. And
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: when he had a chance today not about Joe Biden,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: he couldn't even remember who was debating most of the time.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: When he had a chance today to say to say,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: very specifically, do you take any responsibility around having with COVID,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 10: he said he did a great job. When he had
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: a chance to take responsibility about having with the insurrection
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: where they try to kill his vice president, he said,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: I told him to go peacefully. When he had a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: chance to literally say no, I will not sustain what's happening.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: I will veto if band comes from a national abortion
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: because he literally flipped, like you talking about changing positions,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 10: he flipped Popps at twenty four hours in Florida because
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: the polls were back to him.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: He twice could not say that.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: So, if we want to actually talk about the facts
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: and what was going down, you have two clear choices here.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: You have a decision in which one person repeatedly and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: Vice President Harris laid out what.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: She would do for businesses and individuals.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: There's a New York Times Siena poll that dropped yesterday
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: that shows among black voters in twenty twenty, Trump has
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: seven percent. In twenty twenty four, he's up to seventeen percent.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: There's a New York Time I mean, there's a Siena
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: poll that was released just yesterday. Among Latino voters, in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty, Trump was at like thirty percent. In twenty
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: twenty four, he's at forty two percent.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: If you're going to rely on polling like Hillary Clinton
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: did in twenty sixteen when she was ahead in all
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: the polls, when they said that she had it in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: the bag and she didn't have it in the bag,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: I think the truth is that there is an undercurrent
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: where I have never seen this. Many black people say
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: that they're going to vote for Trump. I've never seen
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: this many black people say that they want something other
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: than her. I've just never seen it. I've not seen it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: I didn't see it in twenty twenty. So this is
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: very new for me, and I think the truth is
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: and the reason why is because they're not satisfied with
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: our current administration, and they're definitely not satisfied with her,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: and they don't feel like the economy is going well,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: and they don't like the decisions that are being made.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: And so at the end of the day, you can
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: have a career politician who's going to tell you whatever
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: it is that you want to hear and do absolutely
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: nothing in office with Democrats have been in the White
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: House twelve over the.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Last sixteen years.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: So if there are things wrong, it's probably the people
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: that's been in there more than a decade as opposed
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: to a man that was just in their four years
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: and two of the four had a pandemic.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: You just one this is just one, one quick thing,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: This one quick thing, if I can from a from
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: from a decision standpoint. It was said earlier about the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: Vice president and her history around being a prosecutor. She
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: chose to not pursue the death penalty and when it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: could have destroyed a community.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 11: Went on another side.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 10: You had someone who called for the death penalty when
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: he knew the people were innocent.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, we know where you're going here.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: What about the man didn't let out when the already
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: do you support Kamala keeping.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: The vice presidents for the vice president?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: Say her title her keeping black man in jail when
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: she was told to let the man out and she didn't,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: and then the Court of Appeals has to come down
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: and tell her to let him out.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Do you do you support that type of behavior?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 11: No? No, no, no, I heard your first. So so
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: again let's let's use facts. Let's use facts.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: Right now, according to four dot us, there are more
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: black men graduating and going to president. So again, if
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: you come with your talking points, come on someone who's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: not prepared.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, that's great, but that doesn't.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: But again again again, just because she's again the vice president,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 10: you just asked, good question, and I just black.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: Men are graduating at an all time time because Kamala
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: is the vice president.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: Is that what you're telling?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Well, let's do this let's do this.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 11: Thank policies, you guys.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: You guys represented your political parties, I think very well,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: and we appreciate we appreciate the conversation.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: It was a very insightful conversation. Reverend Blake, thank you, Whitley,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: thank you. I'm sure hopefully we'll be able to continue
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: some dialogue with you guys as we lead.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Up to this.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Uh what we got fifty five days something like that,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: and all the people that are in the comments, we
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: appreciate you.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: It was a very it was a very spirited debateing.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Crazy and we got we got black jobs to do tomorrow.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, guys, thank you so much.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 11: Appreciate you, appreciate you, thank you.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, well that was fun, man, that was
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: that was insightful.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, yeah, man, I think we should do more
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: of these. I think we should do more these. Is
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: almost midnight. What do you guys think? What's what's in
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: the comics? What do you what do you think?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to watch any reviews from
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the M S N E, C, the Fox News, CNN.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't see any ABC News. I'm interested to see
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like, based on a couple of glimpses on
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: social media reading the comments here, I feel like people
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: feel overwhelming that Trump did not perform tonight and that.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about that.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah three somebody in general.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody said, my son Bowman is off that.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they said, they said, they said, they said
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: they got him walking out the bar.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: They say he was going off that dog Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: godamn going on.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: No man shouts to the Bronx.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: They said, he going up at nineteen forty two.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Sat to my blake. You make an American wit le.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: She she's sure, she's got she's got she's got energy.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: She definitely has energy, and she has her talking points
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: well laid out. I shok a lot of credit. I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: was entertaining, entertaining, that's somebody that they should be having
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: their eye on for the future of the party. Sure
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: they need they definitely gonna need her, need to elevate
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  Speaker 1: her number. Sure, Now how much of it was factual,
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  Speaker 1: that's another stopic. But she definitely had points talking point
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. Wow, how did you when you when they
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: first walked out, he wasn't gonna go shake her hand?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go watch your back. He uh, he walked straight
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  Speaker 1: to the podium. He walked straight to the podium. She
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: kind of went over there and said her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean all those things play part. He didn't look
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: at that at all during the debate.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, man, what can you do.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be back on Monday with market mondays.
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  Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: We're back tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow is one of the ones. Blackout,
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  Speaker 5: blackout tomorrow, ten o'clock. Shout to end.
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  Speaker 2: This is late.
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  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, shout to everybody in Houston. Man, they might
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  Speaker 5: have a hurricane. So yeah, prayers up, prayers after everybody
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: in Houston.
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  Speaker 3: But shout out to end. We'll be back tomorrow at
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: We don't take no days off.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take no days off. And we on the and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: we're on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow's gonna be crazy too.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: We're on the road.
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  Speaker 3: But all right, all right, god spin broil.
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  Speaker 2: Love is love, y'all be good.
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  Speaker 3: See tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: History was made tonight.
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  Speaker 9: Peace an illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 9: child in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: President Donald J.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: Trump's leadership.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Christy Noman, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 9: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 9: aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, your
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: next you will be fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned.
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  Speaker 2: And deported.
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  Speaker 9: You will never return. But if you register using our
• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: to return legally. Do what's right.
• 1:13:46
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