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Pretty Womyn · Like a Virgin

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Speaker 1: If you can't love yourself, how are you gonna stop
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Speaker 1: Airplane airplane is very funny, and I'm I want that
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Speaker 2: Actually right up in my yes, not into the urethra
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Speaker 1: they always warn you, like if you're in a lake
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Speaker 1: or something, you shouldn't pee because some of the fish
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Speaker 1: will like swim up your piss stream into your dick.
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Speaker 2: Imagine having a sounding fetish like a sound in kink,
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Speaker 2: but not likely fish. Yeah, no metal bars that go
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Speaker 2: the urethraa it's just live fish, tiny fish. Imagine that
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Speaker 2: was my my king.
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Speaker 1: I actually saw an Instagram reel of a guy who
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Speaker 1: was walking around Ikia with the sounding rod in what. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a joke or if
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Speaker 1: it was real. It's kind of like, do you know
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Speaker 1: that guy? Do you ever see that guy who loves
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Speaker 1: to make like tiktoks and reels about getting bred at
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Speaker 1: home depot?
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Speaker 2: If it's the guy that I mean, not at home depot, No,
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Speaker 2: but he was a home depot employee, and he would
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Speaker 2: get functioned the parking lot and probably think of a
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Speaker 2: different guy. Yeah, there's this guy who's always got fired
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Speaker 2: from I think he got fired from Home Home. There's
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Speaker 2: this guy who's always making content about how he's taking
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Speaker 2: loads in Home depot. Gag. It's hot.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's his number one cruising spot. Well, to
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Speaker 1: be honest, it's like that blue collar dick. Then it's
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Speaker 1: like absolutely cruising spot. But also it's kind of like
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Speaker 1: not it's not sexy to me.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why. Maybe it's because I don't really
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Speaker 2: like home DOOPO have a bit of a trauma around it. Okay,
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Speaker 2: explain And by trauma, I mean I didn't like going
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Speaker 2: there as a child, but I liked it was one.
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Speaker 1: Of those stores that you got dragged to with your
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Speaker 1: parents that wasn't fun, Like it was like that Sears. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and in theory it actually should be fun.
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Speaker 2: There's like chandeliers. Yeah, there's extreme makeup. We know Sia babes,
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Speaker 2: we know Siyah extreme homemakeover. Okay, we're gonna be covering
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Speaker 2: a couple things in this episode that we have already
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Speaker 2: even touched. We've already touched on, among them, the most
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Speaker 2: recent and perhaps best episode of Hacks, the lesbian episode.
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Speaker 1: Although it's kind of hard to call one particular episode
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Speaker 1: of Hacks the lesbian episode when it was a show,
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Speaker 1: you know, sort of engineered for lesbians. On Twitter, by
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Speaker 1: and for by and.
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Speaker 2: Do what do we want to talk about first, all stars, No,
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Speaker 2: let's talk about Hacks. Okay, yeah, let's get it out
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Speaker 2: of the way. So if you're you're probably familiar with
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Speaker 2: the show Hacks, Emmy Sensation, everybody loves a show. They
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Speaker 2: recently came out with an episode that.
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Speaker 1: Which is which is airing its final season right, which
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Speaker 1: is important.
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Speaker 2: I think to what the stakes of this episode felt like.
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Speaker 2: We called it the lesbian episode, but there are actually
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Speaker 2: so many lesbian episodes. I'm thinking about the one where
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Speaker 2: they go on to lesbian Cruise.
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Speaker 1: Or the one where where Ava almost hooks up with
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Speaker 1: fucking Chustina Hendricks. Right, and she wants to piss on her.
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Speaker 1: She's like, you were not gonna pee on me? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 2: I forgot about Christina Hendricks the Republican, the lesbian Republican. Amazing.
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Speaker 1: So the premise of this episode, the season so far
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Speaker 1: has been following Debra as she's preparing to do this
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Speaker 1: big Madison Square Garden show coming after the end of
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Speaker 1: her gag order, and so she decides in the most
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Speaker 1: recent episode that she absolutely needs to wear Carol Burnett's
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Speaker 1: final look from her show. She decides this because she
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Speaker 1: has a dream in which she appears naked on stage
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Speaker 1: and like had a kind of crazy body double. It
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Speaker 1: was full puss out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was giving, kind of like Jimbo. It was
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Speaker 2: giving like Jimbo, full body trusthetic.
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Speaker 1: It was very boobs for Queens dot com. It was
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Speaker 1: boobs for Queens dot com dot org. And then her
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Speaker 1: teeth fall teeth falling out, classically assigned like the most
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Speaker 1: common dream anyone, which is like a sign for anxiety
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Speaker 1: go figure instead. But instead of think realizing what it
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Speaker 1: actually means, which is that she needs to you know,
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Speaker 1: work on her material, she decides that she needs to
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Speaker 1: work on material aka fashion so she calls her psychic.
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Speaker 1: She is I love the psychic. The psychic is one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite characters. She's just kind of this, I mean,
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Speaker 1: she sounds unhealthy. She's kind of like she sounds like
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Speaker 1: she's been smoking ten packs a day for the past
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Speaker 1: thirty years.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes, and she has to must procure this. Bob
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Speaker 2: Mackie and let me tell.
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Speaker 1: You, Oh my god, Bob Mackie cameo.
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Speaker 2: Bob Mackie cameo in this episode was so fire.
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Speaker 1: He was like, I can't make you address, like, I
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Speaker 1: make one for you. And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: Sabrina Carpenter's standing outside my house with a sewing machine
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Speaker 1: and a gun.
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Speaker 2: A really good joke. Also, like I I would say
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Speaker 2: that Debra Vance is like sow me, I am the
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Speaker 2: girl that's like, I have so much real material to prepare,
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Speaker 2: and instead of using the last thirty minutes wisely, I
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Speaker 2: will use it to like do my makeup and my hair,
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Speaker 2: yes that I look good.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely trying to find the actually least important thing that
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Speaker 1: you need to do and focus on that instead of
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Speaker 1: the actual big important.
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Speaker 2: Thing you have. So relatable. And so Debra Vance finds
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Speaker 2: out that this Bob Mackie Carroll like number that Carol
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Speaker 2: Burnett that was made for Carol Burnett exists in Cherry
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Speaker 2: you know one Cherry Jones hands. She's playing a Ellen
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Speaker 2: DeGeneres like very famous rich lesbian comedian who also has
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Speaker 2: her own Porschia to Rassi as it were played by
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Speaker 2: I can't remember her name.
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Speaker 1: Her name is Leslie Bibb. Iconically from the most recent
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Speaker 1: season of The White Lotus. She has the County Bob
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Speaker 1: and she I am number one on her Emmy campaign
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Speaker 1: for guest star for this episode, she is pitch perfect.
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Speaker 2: We should have the entire thing. We need to host
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Speaker 2: f why see events or Leslie Bibb.
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Speaker 1: Like unofficial, unauthorized like she keeps dming us like girls.
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Speaker 1: Please stop, please stop, please stop hosting these FOYC events.
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Speaker 2: They're non compliant with the Academy.
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Speaker 1: Please stop tagging me and please stop sending me new
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Speaker 1: Please stop threatening OSCAR voters would not actually a lesbian.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which would be a lie. She's a lesbian.
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Speaker 1: So there's this great scene where where Deborah you know
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Speaker 1: invites invites Kelly Kirkpatrick is her name in an episode
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Speaker 1: invites Cherry Jones's character out to lunch at her apology
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Speaker 1: table at Spago, which I love the idea that she
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Speaker 1: has an apology table.
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Speaker 2: That's really smarts.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I should have an apology table.
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Speaker 2: Where would it be the coffee.
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Speaker 1: Shop across across the street from my house or the
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Speaker 1: cheesecake factory. Cheesecake factory would be great because you have
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Speaker 1: that positive association association of the cheesecake factory paired with
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Speaker 1: the responsibility of what you have to do at this table, yes.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and to have free bread.
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Speaker 1: So, because Ava comes to give Deborah her phone, and obviously,
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Speaker 1: like their dynamic, the lines are so blurred. Cherry Jones
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Speaker 1: assumes that Deborah is actually a lesbian and that's why
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Speaker 1: Deborah was so mean to her when she came out,
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Speaker 1: thus starting this feud between them, and so she invites
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Speaker 1: Deborah and Ava to spend the weekend with her and
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Speaker 1: her wife in their beautiful Montecito house.
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Speaker 2: And under the presumption that Debra Vents and Hannah Inminder
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Speaker 2: what's her character's name, Ava, Ava are lesbian lesbians, they
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Speaker 2: must spend this weekend together, and it obviously very immediately
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Speaker 2: becomes like swinger vibes. It's clear that Cherry Jones and
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Speaker 2: her wife are swingers. I don't know swingers.
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Speaker 1: They're open. It's not that they all wanted to have sex,
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Speaker 1: It's that the wife wanted to have sex specifically with Ava.
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Speaker 2: Kind of maybe the reason I choose the term swingers
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Speaker 2: over like kind of group sex polyamory is like swingers
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Speaker 2: is polyamory for heterosexual couples. Like it's like what quote
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Speaker 2: unquote being open is for heterosexual couples. And they give
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Speaker 2: more het vibes structurally to me, which is.
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Speaker 1: Why I'm like, I see what they see where you're
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Speaker 1: coming from.
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Speaker 2: Because of their their generation, because of their wealth status,
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Speaker 2: and their lack of access to culture, a culture of
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Speaker 2: polyamory and open relationships, my mind would say that they
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Speaker 2: would use the term. They seem like the kinds of
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Speaker 2: people that would use the term. Yeah, we swing, but
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Speaker 2: they do say open. Anyways, we won't tell you like
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Speaker 2: the entire details of the episode, but but it is
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Speaker 2: it is the best episode of Hawks, and it's like,
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Speaker 2: hands down, and you think the incredible premise of the
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Speaker 2: of the episode, which is like the delicious kind of
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Speaker 2: like hijinks situational comedy that you like want out of
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Speaker 2: the show. That's when the show really thrives, is paired
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Speaker 2: with something that happens halfway through this, like I mean
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Speaker 2: kind of at the end episode of the climax that
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Speaker 2: is so shocking and simultaneously devastating, I would say, and
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Speaker 2: also hilarious and also like complex and like rooted in
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Speaker 2: the real life experiences of these characters, and like Deborah
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Speaker 2: and Ava's relationship together. It was so genius.
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Speaker 1: It just kept the whole episode kept getting better. Every
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Speaker 1: time I thought it had topped itself, it just got
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Speaker 1: better and funnier and like more emotional. Yes, it really,
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Speaker 1: Like I know that. You know, some people might say, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you can't really call this the best episode of HACKS
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Speaker 1: because it's missing so much of what makes HACKS special,
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Speaker 1: And like I agree. You know, there's no mixed Aalter,
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Speaker 1: no Jimmy, like all the kooky characters. But the show
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Speaker 1: at its core has always been about Deborah and Ava,
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Speaker 1: about their relationship. Yes, and this is a perfect exploration
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Speaker 1: of it. And I like that it like really it
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Speaker 1: it is fan service.
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Speaker 2: In the best way.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Like, yeah, we know that you want to see
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Speaker 1: Debrah and Ave a makeout, so we're going to give
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Speaker 1: it to you, but it's going to be in a
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Speaker 1: way that still drives the story, the story forward and
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Speaker 1: makes sense for these characters.
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Speaker 2: And when I that's when I went going into this episode.
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Speaker 2: I really thought it was going to be delicious fan
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Speaker 2: service and like brilliant and that was it, and it
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Speaker 2: really was so much more than that. I was gagged. Anyways,
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Speaker 2: love the episode, so go watch it.
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Speaker 1: Go watch it, Go watch it.
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Speaker 2: If you've never seen a single episode of Hacks, go no.
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Speaker 1: I truly believe you could watch it out of context. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like a short film.
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Speaker 2: Prestige television. Okay, speaking of prestige television, All Stars is back,
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Speaker 2: All Stars is back. I was like, hmm, should we
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Speaker 2: All Stars came out a couple of days ago, All
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Speaker 2: Stars Season eleven. Should we watch it? And Roast was
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Speaker 2: like no, and I was like, you're right, no, And
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Speaker 2: then I was like, no, actually we should watch it
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Speaker 2: and then decide we should just tell the virgins whether
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Speaker 2: it's worth watching. So like, we watched it. Excuse me,
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Speaker 2: we watched it for you, so you don't have to
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Speaker 2: You're welcome. This is repeating the structure of like the
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Speaker 2: insanely complicated like sports brackets system. God it's so complicated.
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Speaker 2: It's basically like three mini seasons of the show, like
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Speaker 2: three gribbings.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the top two queens from each bracket then
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Speaker 1: move on to the semifinals.
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Speaker 2: And we will honestly go down the line and we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about almost every queen. So some of them aren't
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Speaker 2: really worth well, there's only six of them. There's only
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Speaker 2: six of them.
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Speaker 1: So my immediate favorite was Akiria Davenport. She loved her
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Speaker 1: her original season. She is even more pumped. And you know,
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Speaker 1: her teeth are whiter than I don't like they're the
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Speaker 1: whitest thing in existence.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they are blinding. They are like fluorescent like and
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Speaker 2: not in a bad way. She looks immaculate, gorgeous out
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Speaker 2: of drag. She looks immaculate in drag. She is is
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Speaker 2: easily like the best runway on the season. And I
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Speaker 2: include Don in that, Like, yes, Don maybe like a
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Speaker 2: scoch behind her, but like her runway is immaculate, like she.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that look she made in the second episode.
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Speaker 2: Was crazy crazy. So would you say she's your number
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Speaker 2: one pick for this bracket? I think so, okay, I
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Speaker 2: would say that. I would also I believe put Akiria
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Speaker 2: as my number one in this bracket. I would literally,
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Speaker 2: no jokes, sister put for second. Morgan McMichaels, okay.
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Speaker 1: Morgan McMichael h. Morgan McMichaels. That's a drag queen's drag queen.
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Speaker 2: That is a drag queen's drag queen, that is, and
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Speaker 2: also that is drag queen's name. Morgan McMichaels. She is
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Speaker 2: forty five years old and doing a thirty handspring off
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Speaker 2: of a box.
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Speaker 1: And I know what, she's kind of hot out of drags,
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Speaker 1: a little bit hot out of dragon in a specifically gay,
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Speaker 1: very kind of methy floridaway. Yeah, like she kind of
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Speaker 1: looks like Justin Bieber. Yes, but it's working.
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Speaker 2: Literally like the tan the bleached hair, I think immaculately groaned,
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Speaker 2: but you can still see her agg I couldn't tell
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Speaker 2: if her hair was bleached or if it was just gray.
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Speaker 2: I think it was bleached for sure. For sure. Well,
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Speaker 2: she like literally, I mean, I think she's just such
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Speaker 2: a kind of similar thing that I love about Akiria.
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Speaker 2: A professional, a workhorse, a classic.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna show up. She's gonna show up, do three
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Speaker 1: sets of shows. Yes, you know, be there, be there
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Speaker 1: on time, stay until the minute she gets paid.
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Speaker 2: Get out, classically classically trained queen, like purebred horse, like
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Speaker 2: absolutely die for her. She's fab Yeah, she's just like well,
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Speaker 2: she's just like she's just like the kind of queen
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Speaker 2: that comes from the generation of queens that were here
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Speaker 2: before it all capital.
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Speaker 1: Well, she's an old bitch, that's what That's what we're
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Speaker 1: really saying is you know, like when the most recent
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Speaker 1: season of drag Race came, the most recent main season
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Speaker 1: of drag Race, we were all so like, oh, thank god,
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Speaker 1: there's actually older queens this season, right, but they were
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Speaker 1: all like in their early to mid thirties. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: need to see bitches who were in their forties and
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Speaker 1: fifties on drag Race and sixties. I want to see seventies.
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Speaker 2: Bitches that were there slinking mud with rue when they
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Speaker 2: were building the pyramids. Like I literally like, and okay,
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Speaker 2: you say like old queen, like to an old queen.
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Speaker 2: Can it's like a classically trained queen, a queen that
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Speaker 2: we want to watch. That obviously is not true. We
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Speaker 2: would get Missty Summers, who is like maybe a little younger,
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Speaker 2: but honestly like Morgan Michael's makes her look older, like
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Speaker 2: she feels kind of like.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's mudgeony. It's just kind of crazy that her
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Speaker 1: whole narrative is that she was on the show season two.
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Speaker 1: She's sort of like helped make Untucked a thing. And
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Speaker 1: most importantly, she's had this insane, you know, body transformation.
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Speaker 1: She's lost all this weight and yet she looks crazier
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Speaker 1: than ever. Her drag, particularly the makeup, particularly her color
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Speaker 1: contacts are OOKI spooky, jump scare, demonic vibes. In her confessional,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. In her confessional, she is wearing
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Speaker 1: like an underarmor material quarter zip polo shirt, huge huge
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Speaker 1: like glow up judge glasses.
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Speaker 2: They're very, they're very, a.
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Speaker 1: Snapback baseball hat and waterline electric blue eyeliner, crazy underry.
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Speaker 1: Like it's just the craziest anyone has ever looked.
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Speaker 2: She looks in a confession. She looks like a gay
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Speaker 2: a man that works for an insurance company who forgot
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Speaker 2: to clean the makeup off from the night out she
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Speaker 2: just had and only does like two times a year,
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Speaker 2: like like she gives like she I will say, okay,
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Speaker 2: I need her on television.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's incredibly TV TV. She's so insecure and
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Speaker 1: weird and so honestly bad at drags. She's not gonna drag.
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Speaker 1: Looks she made for the like weird, like wonder Woman,
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Speaker 1: so strange.
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Speaker 2: I love the breakdeck and dancing looks were kind of
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Speaker 2: bad except for Dawn actually hers also, I think that
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Speaker 2: was the only look she did that I actually really loved.
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Speaker 2: She just wasn't wearing every well. She wore the long
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Speaker 2: blonde box braids, like really long.
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Speaker 1: I also like I liked that in the in the
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Speaker 1: like walk around. When Rue came to talk to them
19:48
Speaker 1: during the design challenge, she said, too mystique. She was like,
19:53
Speaker 1: so you've been campaigning to get on All Stars for years? Yes,
19:57
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, bitch, Like, so I see your
20:01
Speaker 1: really that she really twisted their arms to get back
20:04
Speaker 1: on the show.
20:04
Speaker 2: And uh is it worth it? Actually, yes it is.
20:08
Speaker 2: It is welcome back, Misteke.
20:11
Speaker 1: Then, of course we have morphine love Dion. Pussy Fold
20:17
Speaker 1: Doll had no idea that she was in this horrific
20:20
Speaker 1: car accident and had to get essentially like her entire
20:23
Speaker 1: face reconstructed.
20:25
Speaker 2: I wonder if she can still like split kick dip
20:28
Speaker 2: it's a real, real travesty.
20:30
Speaker 1: And she did. She did in the in the right yeah,
20:35
Speaker 1: the box dancing, the break Dancing challenge. Well, she said
20:39
Speaker 1: that she did the Vegas show right after the accident.
20:43
Speaker 2: Okay, right, okay, so she is like up and running.
20:47
Speaker 2: This is a spoiler. Virgin's absolutely disappointed that Morphine did
20:52
Speaker 2: not lip sync at all, like Don lip syncing in
20:56
Speaker 2: these two lipsync some of the two episodes that were
20:58
Speaker 2: released from the season. I was just like, that should
21:01
Speaker 2: be Morphine in that place. We need to watch Morphine lipsying.
21:03
Speaker 2: Don is a bad lipsyner.
21:05
Speaker 1: She is a bad lipsinger, but she did do better
21:07
Speaker 1: in those challenges.
21:09
Speaker 2: I don't think she did better in the break Dancing challenge.
21:12
Speaker 2: I think I would give it to Morphine first.
21:14
Speaker 1: Sorry, I actually really agreed with the judges on Morphine,
21:17
Speaker 1: which is that her look was very distracting and it
21:19
Speaker 1: distracted from her being the best dancer of all them.
21:23
Speaker 2: I just wanted the producers to produce and just be like,
21:25
Speaker 2: actually it's Morphine, and because we want to watch you lipsying,
21:28
Speaker 2: but maybe there's.
21:28
Speaker 1: You know, they might be doing that in the way
21:31
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this would be good TV because Morphine
21:33
Speaker 1: is going.
21:33
Speaker 2: To be plucked. Yeah, morphine is and she was and
21:36
Speaker 2: is plucked.
21:38
Speaker 1: She plucked I when Lucky Stars did not give her
21:42
Speaker 1: that point. Girl, she is so mean. She and Don
21:47
Speaker 1: are the meanest mean girls to Lucky Stars. And don't
21:50
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Lucky Stars deserves it. Yeah, because she
21:54
Speaker 1: should retire from drag immediately.
21:57
Speaker 2: She's not a drug queen. She's the club kid. No shade,
21:59
Speaker 2: no shade. I see it on top, look, yeah, see
22:02
Speaker 2: you it on top.
22:03
Speaker 1: Go back to Holy Mountain where you belong.
22:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, Paul's dolls. The has done boots. I really
22:13
Speaker 2: my heart breaks for Lucky Stars. Sometimes. I think that
22:17
Speaker 2: she did thrive with her Piana and I Doughnut look
22:19
Speaker 2: like she got. I think she is proven that she
22:22
Speaker 2: she has artistry. It's just not artistry when we want
22:25
Speaker 2: to look at.
22:26
Speaker 1: She's what she is thankfully good at. And I think
22:29
Speaker 1: the fact that they're there for this entire run of
22:32
Speaker 1: episodes is helpful. Is that she is leaning into being
22:35
Speaker 1: dumb and she's making Rue laugh.
22:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's making Rue fucking laugh, which is like the
22:40
Speaker 2: most important thing to do. Uh. And I would say
22:44
Speaker 2: that she's kind of almost getting she's like kind of
22:46
Speaker 2: getting into the drama. She's adjacent to the drama. Something
22:49
Speaker 2: that I said to you kind of we were watching
22:51
Speaker 2: the first episode. It had been on for like ten
22:54
Speaker 2: or twenty minutes, and I turned you and I was like,
22:57
Speaker 2: it feels like watching old drag race, like classic traditional
23:01
Speaker 2: like at the at the the cusp of Untucked kind
23:05
Speaker 2: of drag race.
23:06
Speaker 1: Because we have some old bitches up in there.
23:08
Speaker 2: And frankly, the last season of drag Race that just
23:12
Speaker 2: came out like a couple, you know, seconds ago, we
23:15
Speaker 2: thought that was gonna be the old school Queen's like
23:18
Speaker 2: season where they're like doing the untucked thing and like fighting,
23:22
Speaker 2: but like they're on this season, it's a little it's
23:25
Speaker 2: pretty subtle, like no one's like, you know, taking their
23:27
Speaker 2: earrings off. But it's like real drama.
23:30
Speaker 1: It's more drama than we usually get outside of Untucked. Yeah,
23:33
Speaker 1: the drama's actually on the main show.
23:37
Speaker 2: It made me want to watch Untucked. Honestly. Is there
23:40
Speaker 2: an Untucked for All Stars? I think there is. May
23:43
Speaker 2: we'll investigate later, but yeah, no, that's how I That's
23:46
Speaker 2: how I felt about the show and.
23:47
Speaker 1: General should should you tune back in?
23:50
Speaker 2: I don't know.
23:51
Speaker 1: That's kind of up to you. Where I stand on
23:53
Speaker 1: it is. I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna subscribe
23:56
Speaker 1: to Paramount Plus to watch it. No, but you know
24:00
Speaker 1: the next time I come over to your apartment.
24:01
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll catch up on it exactly, And I would say.
24:05
Speaker 1: Or actually, can I use your paramount logan? Yeah?
24:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you yes you can. It's but I'm like, I
24:12
Speaker 2: feel like we should. I need to make you watch
24:14
Speaker 2: it together with with me. Like maybe I'm just gonna
24:18
Speaker 2: make I can't commit to that weekly. Yeah. Well, I
24:22
Speaker 2: totally agree with my colleague grows. I think it's like
24:24
Speaker 2: watchable colleagues.
24:26
Speaker 1: My colleague grows, Well, you are very professional right now
24:29
Speaker 1: because you did put a top on to record. Yes, well,
24:32
Speaker 1: we both we both were topless and decided to put
24:34
Speaker 1: our matching Pines Pantruy merch on to record. Yes, so
24:38
Speaker 1: that HR wouldn't have to be called this podcast should
24:41
Speaker 1: be sponsored by the Pines Pantry. I would I would
24:44
Speaker 1: let it be sponsored for free. I would be like,
24:46
Speaker 1: you can have ad Pines presents like a virgin.
24:49
Speaker 2: I literally let's pitch it to them. Anyways, Okay, Like, uh,
24:56
Speaker 2: the thing about RuPaul and like, we're all this just
25:00
Speaker 2: come from if you don't know, if you've been living
25:02
Speaker 2: under the rock, is that it really really really all
25:05
Speaker 2: derives from John Waters, among other other people, John Waters
25:11
Speaker 2: Is it's like John Waters and ball It's John Waters Ballroom,
25:14
Speaker 2: like classic movies like what Happened to Whatever Happened to
25:17
Speaker 2: Baby J And like, yeah, I mean Airplane again, huge,
25:22
Speaker 2: huge reference point, like group Paul's playing from so many places.
25:25
Speaker 2: But yes, obviously like the the more kind of outrageous
25:30
Speaker 2: you know camp that like borders on grotesque, that is,
25:36
Speaker 2: you know, very firmly coming from that, that legacy. And
25:41
Speaker 2: we bring it up because on Mother's Day, Rose and
25:43
Speaker 2: I watched Serial Mom, with which neither.
25:46
Speaker 1: Of us had ever seen, but actually was not on
25:48
Speaker 1: Mother's Day. We watched it yesterday, which was the day
25:50
Speaker 1: after Mother's Day.
25:51
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. Time does not exist, liar,
25:55
Speaker 2: You are fucking with my sense of time. Okay, we
25:58
Speaker 2: watched it the day after mother Day. Cereal Mom is
26:01
Speaker 2: about a mom that won't stop killing people, and that's
26:03
Speaker 2: pretty much it. Yes, it's really good.
26:06
Speaker 1: It's really good, starring Kathleen Turner, Scooby Doo, Matthew Lillard,
26:11
Speaker 1: Ricky Lake, Suzanne Summers has a cameo playing herself. And
26:18
Speaker 1: It's a movie that I've been wanting to watch forever,
26:20
Speaker 1: and like I always used to see it up Blockbuster
26:22
Speaker 1: as a kid, and like I would be intrigued, but
26:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, like for for some reason, I just
26:28
Speaker 1: never pulled the trigger and watched it. I've seen other
26:30
Speaker 1: John Waters movies, you know, like I've seen Pink Flamingos
26:33
Speaker 1: and Hairspray and cry Baby, but somehow missed Cerial Mom,
26:38
Speaker 1: which I do think might be maybe one of his
26:43
Speaker 1: more mainstream of films. It did, It did certainly look
26:49
Speaker 1: like maybe like the budget was a little higher, like
26:53
Speaker 1: talent wise, it had maybe a more cohesive storyline than
26:58
Speaker 1: some of his films do, which like a lot of
27:00
Speaker 1: times can just spiral into insanity, and here, like it
27:05
Speaker 1: does spiral into insanity, but like the story is very
27:08
Speaker 1: focused on this serial killer mom who wants to kill
27:13
Speaker 1: everyone who pisses off her kids or interrupts her from
27:18
Speaker 1: going bird watching with her husband.
27:21
Speaker 2: His films do sometimes feel like a series of vignettes
27:25
Speaker 2: or like montages. But yeah, this was like a highly
27:29
Speaker 2: linear narrative. To me, the obvious like highlight of the
27:33
Speaker 2: film was the courtroom spoof at the end. That was amazing, incredible.
27:38
Speaker 2: I was like, I.
27:39
Speaker 1: Didn't know it was going to keep going like to
27:42
Speaker 1: the end, Like I kind of there were several points
27:44
Speaker 1: during the movie where I was like, Oh.
27:46
Speaker 2: This must be the end, and lo and behold it wasn't.
27:49
Speaker 2: Loved it ten out of ten.
27:51
Speaker 1: I love the love the random things that made serial
27:54
Speaker 1: mom kill, Like the woman wearing whit shoes after labor day,
27:59
Speaker 1: the woman not rewinding her videotapes.
28:02
Speaker 2: The woman not brushing her teeth after dinner or something
28:05
Speaker 2: like that. It was these little things that were kind
28:09
Speaker 2: of like things that a mom would get mad about.
28:12
Speaker 1: And I loved how she was just like she never
28:15
Speaker 1: dropped her momness. Yes, like she was always the same bitch,
28:21
Speaker 1: just sometimes she happened to be killing people.
28:24
Speaker 2: Yes, the Kathleen Turner like does this brilliantly. I'd never
28:27
Speaker 2: seen her in anything.
28:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't seen her in a lot. Namely, the
28:32
Speaker 1: main thing I know her from as a child was
28:36
Speaker 1: A Simple Wish starring Martin Short, a film that.
28:39
Speaker 2: I'd never You had to describe it to me I mean,
28:42
Speaker 2: is there what's the log line?
28:43
Speaker 1: It's like about like an evil fairy godmother and a
28:48
Speaker 1: good fairy godmother who's like bad at his job helping
28:51
Speaker 1: Mara Wilson.
28:52
Speaker 2: I believe love sounds kind of deranged, but like also
28:57
Speaker 2: like like made watching serum on made me really want
29:03
Speaker 2: to go into the entire John Waters catalog, which I
29:07
Speaker 2: haven't actually done if I'm going to be honest. Okay, girl.
29:13
Speaker 1: The other movie we watched last night, we watched a
29:16
Speaker 1: scary movie. Yeah, The Autopsy of Jane Doe twenty sixteen,
29:22
Speaker 1: which is about a father's son mortuary duo. They're like
29:27
Speaker 1: the medical examiners in their small town and they are
29:31
Speaker 1: tasked with finding the cause of death of this unnamed
29:35
Speaker 1: woman who was found buried in the basement of this
29:39
Speaker 1: house with a bunch of dead people in it, and
29:41
Speaker 1: spooky things start happening. Girl, this movie was this one
29:46
Speaker 1: is for the boys. So the boom is the way
29:50
Speaker 1: Jane Doe is just serve it is just mogging down
29:56
Speaker 1: for the entire far. There's one scene when they're doing
29:58
Speaker 1: this autopsy where they cut her head open to like
30:01
Speaker 1: get her to like look at her brain. They peel
30:04
Speaker 1: her face down, and then when they're done, they just
30:07
Speaker 1: like take her by the hair and snatch her face
30:11
Speaker 1: back up, and she's still in perfect serving position. She's
30:16
Speaker 1: literally like it's like Bella in Breaking Down Part one
30:19
Speaker 1: when she's transforming into a vampire and her spine knits
30:23
Speaker 1: together and she all of a sudden goes.
30:25
Speaker 2: Like, Yes, she's giving like Puss Puss Girl's trip. She's
30:29
Speaker 2: like mewing, except she can't mute because her tongue has
30:32
Speaker 2: been cut out. Yes. Basically, as the like morticians start,
30:39
Speaker 2: you know, doing the autopsy, they find increasingly disturbing things
30:45
Speaker 2: about the body and the.
30:46
Speaker 1: Like has a dick.
30:48
Speaker 2: Yes, like the fact that she has a nine and
30:50
Speaker 2: a half inch cock, which a really bold choice for
30:53
Speaker 2: the filmmakers to do this.
30:56
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Well, you know, it was the trans
30:58
Speaker 1: tipping point.
31:00
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was the trans tipping point. They
31:03
Speaker 2: actually they cut they had to because it's an autopsy.
31:06
Speaker 2: They had to cut the cock open and they inside
31:09
Speaker 2: and when they cut.
31:10
Speaker 1: The open side was the issue of Vanity Fair. Caylen
31:13
Speaker 1: Jenner on the cover said, call me Kate, I was I.
31:18
Speaker 2: Was going to see like a very tiny scroll with
31:21
Speaker 2: the entire text of Kate Bornstein's gender Outlaws.
31:24
Speaker 1: Oh that too, that was rolled up in the magazine.
31:27
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, yes, yeah, but anyways, the body they keep
31:31
Speaker 2: finding like little like kind of messages and signs and
31:35
Speaker 2: like kind of a cult thing. Yeah, like writings inside
31:38
Speaker 2: the skin.
31:39
Speaker 1: Of her her she swallowed her own tooth, yes, like
31:43
Speaker 1: that was wrapped in like an ancient like and they
31:46
Speaker 1: like knocked out her teeth. And there was also vaginal trauma.
31:51
Speaker 2: Yeah there was. I mean, well she had but well
31:55
Speaker 2: she like under her nine she has both. Yes, she
32:00
Speaker 2: has both. There was alsoure trauma. There was there was
32:05
Speaker 2: trauma they didn't examine. She was a whole yeah, she
32:09
Speaker 2: said nobut stuff. Yeah, she's literally so pussed. I kind
32:15
Speaker 2: of am sorry. Maybe maybe I won't like spoil the
32:18
Speaker 2: whole movie. If you want to go ahead and watch
32:20
Speaker 2: it came out ten years ago, I think we can
32:23
Speaker 2: spoil it. Oh shit, okay, six let me tell you,
32:26
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm shocked that she never anthropomorphised.
32:30
Speaker 1: Well she yeah, she never.
32:32
Speaker 2: She never came.
32:32
Speaker 1: You never came to life. So what you find out
32:36
Speaker 1: through kind of like a convoluted series of logical leaps
32:41
Speaker 1: that the father and son make that she is in
32:43
Speaker 1: fact a witch, yes, who can't die, and so the
32:50
Speaker 1: the wounds that are inflicted on her body, she makes
32:52
Speaker 1: other people feel them for her sort of sick revenge.
32:56
Speaker 2: And they've conducted this entire autopsy like head to toe,
33:01
Speaker 2: and she has been able to feel everything.
33:04
Speaker 1: And she has she's been injuring the father like like
33:09
Speaker 1: like remember last night, there's a point where he pulled
33:11
Speaker 1: his shirt up and it was like like the most
33:14
Speaker 1: bruised a human being could possibly be without dying. And
33:17
Speaker 1: brand was like, oh, that doesn't look good.
33:20
Speaker 2: It was so bad. It was Brian Cox does these
33:23
Speaker 2: cuckoo horror movies. I don't know if you saw The
33:25
Speaker 2: Parenting with Brandon Flynn, and I think, like why Parker
33:29
Speaker 2: Posey was in it?
33:31
Speaker 1: But I have seen The Ring where in which he
33:34
Speaker 1: plays Samara's father. My wife was not meant to have
33:37
Speaker 1: a child.
33:38
Speaker 2: Right, He's in a lot of horror movies. Okay, this movie,
33:42
Speaker 2: The Parenting is starring Edie Falco, Parker Posey, Brandon Flynn,
33:46
Speaker 2: and Lisa Kodrew. Wow, that sounds really good. It was crazy.
33:51
Speaker 2: It was like one half kind of like situational family comedy.
33:55
Speaker 2: And then the other half was this like polsierguist story
33:58
Speaker 2: and it was absurdist to the point that of comedy.
34:02
Speaker 2: I do think it was a comedy. Question Mark you
34:05
Speaker 2: saw it? Yeah, I saw it? And what Brian what?
34:08
Speaker 2: What happened? What Brian Cox has to do at the
34:11
Speaker 2: end of this film was like, I don't know, chaplain
34:16
Speaker 2: level physical comedy in terms of like demonic possession. It
34:20
Speaker 2: was crazy.
34:21
Speaker 1: Are Brian Cox and Deborah Cox related?
34:26
Speaker 2: I think they could be. Look what if they're like
34:28
Speaker 2: long lost? What if they're like twice removed cousins. I'm
34:32
Speaker 2: gonna I wonder if anybody's ever asked this before. No, Wow,
34:39
Speaker 2: really surprising.
34:40
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just taking Google AI's word on that one.
34:43
Speaker 1: Like with the Sex and the City.
34:44
Speaker 2: Birthday chat, Oh my god, Rose and I got into
34:49
Speaker 2: a well not an argument, but a discussion, a discussion
34:53
Speaker 2: when I was like trying. I was like, oh, I
34:54
Speaker 2: think we know the birthdays of like three out of
34:57
Speaker 2: the four of the Sex and the City girls, and
34:59
Speaker 2: so we know what signed they are. And Roses like wait, what,
35:02
Speaker 2: like how would they know that? And I was like,
35:04
Speaker 2: we have the dates of their birthdays. They're in this
35:07
Speaker 2: screen rant article. I was like, well, I thought I had.
35:10
Speaker 2: I had like looked up their birthdays before. And I
35:14
Speaker 2: don't know if I read this screen rant article or
35:16
Speaker 2: if I read another source of I read read it.
35:18
Speaker 2: But this screen rant article, which claims to have the
35:22
Speaker 2: exact birth dates of each Sex and the City character,
35:25
Speaker 2: has no backing whatsoever, no sources, no sources, no journalistic integrity.
35:31
Speaker 2: I literally thought it was real. And then I go
35:34
Speaker 2: to Wikipedia, which has the exact same dates, mind you,
35:37
Speaker 2: and no citation. So this is a disinformation campaign that
35:42
Speaker 2: has convinced I would say, a pretty broad spectrum of
35:45
Speaker 2: people that we know the actual birthdays of the Sex
35:48
Speaker 2: and the City quadrant, and we do and we just don't.
35:51
Speaker 2: We just don't. Yeah. I was like literally on Reddit
35:54
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, and I do not think
35:56
Speaker 2: we have it. If you the Virgins have like an
35:59
Speaker 2: actual credit source and.
36:01
Speaker 1: Bythdays, here's what I'll accept of the source, right, Yes,
36:05
Speaker 1: I will accept dialogue in the show that we're in,
36:09
Speaker 1: either the original show, the movies range just like that, Yes,
36:14
Speaker 1: that explicitly states the character, or like Carrie up in
36:18
Speaker 1: paper or if we see a newspaper or an ID
36:21
Speaker 1: and it has their date of birth on it. I
36:22
Speaker 1: would accept that. What I will not accept is an
36:26
Speaker 1: actor saying on a podcast or in an interview, I
36:29
Speaker 1: think she's an Aquarius, or the date and episode aired
36:33
Speaker 1: in which their first day happened. That does not count.
36:36
Speaker 2: That is not textual, you idiots. Anyways, I need to
36:40
Speaker 2: cite your work, cy your work, show your fucking sources. Anyways,
36:47
Speaker 2: I really loved the Autopsy of I was gonna say,
36:50
Speaker 2: Emily Rose Jane, Oh, yeah, I enjoyed it, like kind
36:53
Speaker 2: of like.
36:53
Speaker 1: I was glad to It's been on my horror movie
36:56
Speaker 1: watch list for a while, and I was very.
36:58
Speaker 2: Glad to not get off there. I would say four stars,
37:04
Speaker 2: three and three and a half. I liked it a lot. Actually,
37:07
Speaker 2: I didn't really have very many notes. It didn't need
37:09
Speaker 2: to be super logical.
37:10
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say like a solid three.
37:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Something else that is like really silly, but
37:20
Speaker 2: like I kind of wanted to chat about, is the
37:23
Speaker 2: fact that you and I we had been like kind
37:25
Speaker 2: of watching TV for five hours and and we were like, okay,
37:32
Speaker 2: it's time to go to bed. Should we like flip
37:34
Speaker 2: something on to like, you know, before we go to bed, Like, Oh,
37:38
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch a whole movie, you said,
37:40
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I don't want to watch
37:41
Speaker 2: a whole movie either, And so we were looking at
37:45
Speaker 2: this is on I'm pretty sure it was on Sunday
37:47
Speaker 2: Movies for Moms. It was this last night.
37:48
Speaker 1: No, it was on Sunday.
37:49
Speaker 2: It was on Sunday. It was like the Movies for No.
37:52
Speaker 2: We were on Netflix. Oh we were. I thought we
37:54
Speaker 2: were on the in the Movies for Moms.
37:56
Speaker 1: That's where we saw where we saw Cereal right.
37:59
Speaker 2: Right, a Cereal Mom, Okay, And so you were like, oh,
38:03
Speaker 2: put Pretty Woman on. And I put it on, thinking
38:05
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be a passive watcher. I'm gonna like
38:08
Speaker 2: go to bed after twenty minutes.
38:09
Speaker 1: Same as someone who has seen Pretty Woman upwards of
38:12
Speaker 1: one hundred times.
38:14
Speaker 2: Girl, I felt like a baby in a crib watching
38:17
Speaker 2: a mobile like I was. It was like it was
38:19
Speaker 2: like trans Coco Melon, Yes, transgender Coco Melon. Because this
38:24
Speaker 2: is the tranniest movie, one of the traniest movies ever created.
38:28
Speaker 2: If you did not know, I was just like, I
38:31
Speaker 2: guess I haven't watched it in maybe like a year
38:34
Speaker 2: or two, but it's a movie that I rarely sit
38:39
Speaker 2: down and watch on purpose. It's always the kind of thing.
38:42
Speaker 2: And I think I said this the other night, like, oh,
38:44
Speaker 2: you kind of have to watch that, like when it's
38:46
Speaker 2: on TV. Oh no, you said that about Twenty seven Dresses, right,
38:49
Speaker 2: which we did watch, which we did also watch. They're
38:52
Speaker 2: kind of similar any of those rom coms. It's like,
38:54
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'll catch it, like when I'm visiting my
38:56
Speaker 2: mom's house and I'm like trying to find something on
38:58
Speaker 2: cable at two pm on a Tuesday, But like, I'm
39:01
Speaker 2: gonna watch Pretty Woman.
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Speaker 1: But it's so fucking good. They're so sexy, they're so
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Speaker 1: in love.
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Speaker 2: It's a satiating story. Why would you say it is
39:16
Speaker 2: a transgender film. I'll start the wig that she wears
39:22
Speaker 2: in the beginning of this film, Clocky te Shaw, paired
39:24
Speaker 2: with the Mystic boutique outfit that she is wearing. This, like,
39:29
Speaker 2: I guess unitar This cutout unitard with a hardware holding
39:34
Speaker 2: the pieces together is so like Doll's first time out
39:42
Speaker 2: on the town. Like it is so kind of like
39:47
Speaker 2: three dollar bill coated in a way that is so
39:50
Speaker 2: immediately apparent. I wish they had paid, Like just I
39:52
Speaker 2: know it's supposed to be a shitty wig. I know
39:54
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a shitty wig, but they could
39:55
Speaker 2: have paid like four or five more dollars for like
39:57
Speaker 2: a slightly less shitty wig that was like not act
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Speaker 2: on her head.
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Speaker 1: Well all time, travel back to the nineteen eighties and
40:03
Speaker 1: let them know about it.
40:04
Speaker 2: And to be honest, obviously, all of the things that
40:06
Speaker 2: anyone could say to be critical of this movie have
40:09
Speaker 2: been said in terms of like the portrayal of sex
40:11
Speaker 2: work and like what this character was like tasked to
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Speaker 2: do as a sex worker, which is basically be a
40:15
Speaker 2: feral animal idiot, and Julia Roberts imbues so much humanity.
40:21
Speaker 1: She's in this most charming person who's ever existed.
40:25
Speaker 2: Yes, who's a bit in real life, but she literally
40:29
Speaker 2: is so fab I mean it kind of reminds me
40:31
Speaker 2: of like Glenn Close's portrayal of her character and Fatal Attraction.
40:37
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen it.
40:38
Speaker 2: We have to. We're watching it tonight. No, I know
40:41
Speaker 2: it's a bit long. I'll watch it. It's a bit long,
40:44
Speaker 2: but it's a script that it's like a script imbued
40:47
Speaker 2: in misogyny, imbued in a certain kind of idea, of
40:50
Speaker 2: a woman and she's so good at acting. Yes, it's
40:56
Speaker 2: a shape woman might say she's so good acting that
41:00
Speaker 2: the character becomes this like full fleshed human that transcends
41:05
Speaker 2: the misogyny of the script. Also anyways, so it's very
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Speaker 2: very trainy. Also, sex work is like transsexual. If you're
41:13
Speaker 2: right making a movie about sex work, it's transac.
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Speaker 1: It literally made me want to be a sex worker
41:17
Speaker 1: when I grew.
41:17
Speaker 2: Up, literally as a child. And that's true for a
41:20
Speaker 2: lot of sex workers. Like this movie literally inspired a
41:23
Speaker 2: lot of people to become sex workers. And we need
41:26
Speaker 2: more films in this decade and TV shows and TV
41:30
Speaker 2: shows about sex workers. We need more films that a
41:33
Speaker 2: glamorous sex work grows.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we haven't had a good one in a while.
41:37
Speaker 1: I actually, I think I asked you last night if
41:39
Speaker 1: you had ever seen Secret Diary of a Call Girl
41:41
Speaker 1: starring Billy Piper and everybody. That is another one that
41:45
Speaker 1: really glamorized sex work for me, that I used to
41:47
Speaker 1: love when I was you know, back in the day
41:50
Speaker 1: when it was airing right.
41:52
Speaker 2: Well, I'm I had never heard of it before. Now
41:55
Speaker 2: it's on my list. I was trying to think of
41:58
Speaker 2: famous movies about sex work, and there's really like what four,
42:02
Speaker 2: there's like Tangerine, there's Honora, there's Pretty Woman, and then
42:07
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's that COVID movie with Emma Thompson
42:09
Speaker 2: that I can't remember the name of.
42:11
Speaker 1: Never seen it, American Jigglow starring Richard gear.
42:14
Speaker 2: Right, I guess Magic Mike technically. Yeah, like you could say,
42:17
Speaker 2: like a stripper movie, like any stripper movie, I guess
42:20
Speaker 2: you could say, but that's the only movie where it's
42:23
Speaker 2: about the strippers, right, I've never seen strip Tea's our
42:25
Speaker 2: friend John said it was very boring and not good.
42:29
Speaker 2: But her body is fire in.
42:31
Speaker 1: That her body is Tea.
42:33
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't.
42:34
Speaker 1: Demi Moore, who supports AI, I guess ah what she
42:40
Speaker 1: she says something that's like we have to learn to
42:42
Speaker 1: work with AI.
42:43
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and her and like what was it? Like?
42:46
Speaker 2: There was like one or two other A list celebrities
42:48
Speaker 2: that had a very similar comment at the same time,
42:50
Speaker 2: and it was like, did you all go to like
42:52
Speaker 2: a seminar or something. Yes, that's like propagandizing like AI like,
42:58
Speaker 2: but it's not even propaganda.
43:00
Speaker 1: It it's like it's actually very I think kind of
43:04
Speaker 1: master of well not masterful because it's not subtle, well
43:06
Speaker 1: so obvious what they're doing, but like using the language
43:09
Speaker 1: of like, hey, none of us like that it's here,
43:13
Speaker 1: but it is here, so we have to figure out
43:15
Speaker 1: how to work with it because they're they're trying to
43:17
Speaker 1: they're trying to make it like harm reduction, and it's no,
43:21
Speaker 1: we need to be absolutely, vehemently diametrically.
43:25
Speaker 2: Opposed to AI. I cannot. It's like it's sorry, sorry,
43:30
Speaker 2: I'm think I know this like feels like an extremely
43:33
Speaker 2: but I think it's the same logic. If there was
43:35
Speaker 2: a gun on this table, there is, well, there is
43:38
Speaker 2: a gun on this table right now, there's a gun
43:40
Speaker 2: on this table, And if I said to you Rose,
43:43
Speaker 2: the gun is here, like everyone else is using guns,
43:48
Speaker 2: like I know the guns are bad, but like we
43:51
Speaker 2: can use this for good, and because we can use
43:53
Speaker 2: it for good, we should use this gun right now?
43:56
Speaker 1: Like what, why do you know what? I might degree
44:00
Speaker 1: if you put it like that, girl.
44:02
Speaker 2: It's like everyone else is using their guns, might as
44:04
Speaker 2: well use this gun, like what? But I'm sorry, I'm
44:07
Speaker 2: also like anti guns to that logic. I mean, this
44:09
Speaker 2: analogy makes sense to me I'm also anti gun. Well well, okay,
44:14
Speaker 2: so there's like an anti there's somebody who's like anti gun,
44:17
Speaker 2: and there's also like somebody who's anti gun, but they're
44:19
Speaker 2: like arm the dolls, and I'm like, actually literally not
44:22
Speaker 2: like arm the dolls, you know what I mean, which
44:24
Speaker 2: is like, really I think transgressive to say in a
44:27
Speaker 2: Brooklyn circle. But I'm just like, no, we don't say
44:30
Speaker 2: like more guns are the solution. Yeah, sorry, I went
44:32
Speaker 2: like I was very right this, very seriously.
44:34
Speaker 1: I like joking about guns, and I love dreaming about
44:38
Speaker 1: a gun in my life, and I would maybe like
44:41
Speaker 1: to do it again. But I don't think people should
44:43
Speaker 1: own gun.
44:44
Speaker 2: I want to shoot a gun. Let's go shoot guns. Okay,
44:48
Speaker 2: do you think they have them here on Fire? Well?
44:50
Speaker 1: Oh yes, people on this island definitely have guns.
44:55
Speaker 2: I've never been more sure of.
44:57
Speaker 1: And maybe that's what's in the pantry. That's why I
44:59
Speaker 1: flocked to another It's the gun pantry.
45:01
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