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S1E20 - 'Game On' · Dished at Birth

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DANI: I had a crazy dream last night. Do you dream in
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sign language ever?
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KARA: Very few times but I have
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a little bit.
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DANI: I had a dream that there was a child
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that like needed my help.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: Who was signing
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to me and I was signing back and like neither
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one of us could understand each other.
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KARA: Oh no.
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DANI: And
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it was very stressful.
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KARA: I had a dream that I went
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to a Wingspan tournament. It was really fun.
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DANI: I
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got an email from someone at, what is it called?
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KARA: Is this the one who talked about the sign language
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transcription?
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DANI: Yes. I got an email from Jenny
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at Sign Up Media. They have a free browser extension
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that provides sign language interpretation for
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content on streaming platforms, including Disney
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Plus and Netflix. And most recently, they launched
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a project putting out interpretation for all
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eight of this year's Best Picture nominees.
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KARA: That's
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exciting.
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DANI: Yeah. So I'm going to test it out.
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Tomorrow, I'm covering the Oscars tomorrow.
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KARA: It
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can't be AI, right? They must have a real person
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interpreting all these.
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DANI: It must be a real person.
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KARA: Like they do with HBO. I think they're trying
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to get ahead of what HBO is doing because I think
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HBO is doing, I personally think HBO is doing
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a fantastic job with the ASL interpretation.
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DANI: Yes.
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KARA: I'm watching The Pit every week with ASL.
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DANI: Oh my gosh, how was Trash?
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KARA: It was really good.
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KARA: I have a lot of thoughts on it. So Trash is,
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this was kind of groundbreaking and extremely
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cool to see. But these two guys, Joey and Andrew,
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play Jake and Tim, two Deaf roommates who live
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together in New York City. And basically the
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whole premise of the show is that they need to
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take out the trash and they're fighting over
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who needs to do it. But then as the show goes
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on, you learn more about the two characters.
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And also the audience participates in the discussion.
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DANI: Oh, okay.
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KARA: So they do polls and you write on a
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whiteboard, like, should Jake do this or Tim?
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And then we got to vote with the card. So that
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was fun. And then there was also a guy who played
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a jukebox. And whenever they put money in the
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jukebox, it was just a guy. He would speak and
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translate for the two guys, which was confusing
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because I was like, why is he speaking? But then
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other people, other characters in the show kept
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saying the jukebox was playing really loud music.
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But we, the audience, were hearing him translate
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ASL.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: So that was confusing.
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DANI: Did he translate
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through the entire show?
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KARA: So a lot of it was ASL
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only.
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DANI: Interesting.
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KARA: So I think a lot of hearing
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people were like, oh my God, I am so lost. But
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that's the point.
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DANI: Right.
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KARA: Like, that's what Deaf
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people experience. And then at some points when
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they really wanted the audience to know something,
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then they would turn, quote unquote, turn on
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the jukebox.
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DANI: Interesting.
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KARA: But, like, I got most
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of the conversations that would happen without
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sign. But these guys are, like, capital D deaf.
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But one of the things we learned is that Jake
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has more, like, the neoliberal view on deafness,
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as in, like, I pulled myself up by the bootstraps
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and I work this job and I also speak.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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Okay, Daphne coded.
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KARA: Literally. But then Tim has
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kind of the view of, like, I'm not really working.
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I'm taking SSI from the government because fuck
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the government. They don't care about Deaf people.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: And also, he got arrested, and he has
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an ankle monitor on. Because of miscommunication
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with the police. Very Emmett-coded.
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DANI: Okay, Emmett.
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KARA: Daphne and Emmett. But he's very much like, fuck
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the police, fuck the system. Why should I get
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a job? Why should I do all these things they
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expect me to do? And then, yeah, that was interesting.
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And then, at the end, it's kind of revealed that
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these two men are talking to the audience.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: But it's revealed that the audience is like their
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demons. It's like the shit that deaf people
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have to go through. So they point at different
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people in the audience and they're like, this
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is deaf paranoia and this is dinner table syndrome
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and this is this. And I was like, okay. I think
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that was my one qualm is, one, I didn't like
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the jukebox character.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: Because I was like,
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I think they needed some way to interpret ASL for
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the viewers, the mostly hearing viewers, which
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I get. I think they should have just done captions.
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And then at one point, the jukebox breaks, so
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I think they should have just had the captions,
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quote, unquote, break. It's a circle theater,
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and there's, like, projectors on three sides.
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And there is a character. She's hard of hearing
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in real life, but she speaks in the show, and
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she plays, like, a hearing woman who, like, is
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appropriating deaf culture, basically, and using
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social media. Sounds like a lot of people we
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know. But using social media to appropriate deaf
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culture. But when she speaks, her captions are
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on the projector. So I was like, well, why not
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just project the captions for the deaf men instead
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of having the stupid jukebox character? I don't
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know.
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DANI: Yeah, interesting. When you were saying
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at the end that they're like the audience was
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the demons and they're like you're, you're dinner
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table syndrome, all I could think of was the video
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of that one reporter interviewing Cynthia
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Erivo and Ariana Grande on the Wicked For Good
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press tour and they sit down and she's like, I
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love you both. You're my autism and you're my
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ADHD.
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KARA: Is this the same one?
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DANI: No.
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KARA: Same gay one .
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DANI: No.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: Not, not the same as holding space. No, it's
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like this Australian reporter. And Cynthia and
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Ariana look like they've been shot. Like they're
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like trying to stay like so serious. But anyway,
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that sounds really cool.
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KARA: But the light shone
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on me at one point. I think I was Dinner Table
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Syndrome.
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DANI: Wow.
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KARA: And I was like, me? It's funny
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because I know the guy Joey who plays Jake. So
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he looked straight in my eyes and said Dinner
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Table Syndrome. And I was like, Joey!
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DANI: Joey.
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KARA: That's
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me.
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DANI: Wow.
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KARA: You know me. I feel like I should also
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share the Mitski story to our listeners.
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DANI: Oh,
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my God. So much happened to you.
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KARA: So much happened
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this week.
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DANI: Let's talk about Mitski.
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KARA: Friends,
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do you like Mitski? If so, she's a great performer.
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This is my second time seeing her. And she did,
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like, a week-long residency at the Shed in Hudson
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Yard.
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DANI: Great space.
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KARA: Great space. I have never
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been to a concert in the Shed just the year,
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like, the crazy one we saw last week. Yeah. But
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I got tickets to Mitski, and I went with my friend
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Emma. Hi, Emma. And then my wife. And I asked
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for an ASL interpreter. And they hired the interpreter,
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not through the Shed, but the Bowery, which I
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believe is the tour company. So they got the
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interpreter, and they collaborated with the Shed.
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So I arrived. They're very helpful. I go sit.
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The ADA section is in the back of the theater. And I'm like,
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okay, whatever. It's fine. It's in the back and
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raised. I prefer to be, like, right up close.
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Selfishly, because I like being up close.
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DANI: Obviously.
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KARA: But also, it's just so much easier to understand
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everything.
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DANI: True.
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KARA: Mitski starts. She's great.
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I love the interpreters. They're doing a great
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job. And then about three or four songs in, this
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man comes up, and he starts signing to one of
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the interpreters who's not signing for me. And
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I'm... There's some sort of conflict going on.
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And then my interpreter starts translating for
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me and says, oh, they want to dim the lights
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or shut off the lights. And I was like, who's
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they? And she was like, Mitski. Mitski herself
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requested that the lights be shut off. Because,
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you know, the theater is dark and they have like
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a light that's- a tiny little stage light that
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goes right above the interpreter. It's like connected
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to the clipboard or something.
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DANI: Yeah. It's like
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a little podium.
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KARA: Yeah. They have- The interpreter
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is always on the podium. They have the lyrics
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out on an iPad or a paper. And they also have
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the set list. So they just read from that and
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then they interpret and obviously also listen
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to what's going on.
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DANI: And the light is literally
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like a reading light.
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KARA: It's a reading light.
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DANI: Like
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the light you would clip to your book in bed.
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KARA: That's exactly what it was. It was clipped to
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the podium.
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DANI: Yeah. It's not intrusive at all.
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KARA: No. But this man comes up and says, Mitski personally
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has requested that this light is distracting
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and that it needs to go off. And instead of going,
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oh, wait, I just realized this is for ASL. My
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bad. Let me tell Mitski.
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DANI: Yeah, who maybe can't
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see that there's an interpreter.
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KARA: Who can't see
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because we're on the end of the theater.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: They can't see anything that's going on. He,
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like, doubles down. The interpreter's trying
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to explain, like, no. These women were very nice.
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They were advocating for me. But he was like,
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no, the light needs to go out.
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DANI: Didn't he start
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physically putting it down with his hands?
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KARA: He
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started physically pushing the light down. And
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the interpreter was moving the light back up.
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And then he's pushing it back down. And they're
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going back and forth. And then at one point,
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the interpreter was like, okay, Kara, tell him
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you need the light. And I was like, yeah, it's
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true. I do need the light. But then I was like,
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oh, my God. Mitski noticed me.
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DANI: I'm really glad
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that you saw it that way.
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KARA: But then we dimmed
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the lights a little. And then it was fine. I
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could still see. It just wasn't as bright as
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it was before. And then the show goes on without
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a hitch. And then after the show, the guy comes
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back and he was like, Mitski herself personally
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apologizes. But it's not really her fault. It's
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the Shed and the Bowery's fault because the two
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of them worked on getting this interpreter. And
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all they needed to do is say, Mitski, break a leg,
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have a great show. By the way, there's going
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to be a light in the back for ASL interpretation.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: If you're wondering what that is. And she
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probably thought she has, like, a policy with
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no filming. Yeah, she probably thought it was
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someone full flash on. Like, full flash on filming
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for 20 minutes straight. So she was like, can
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you see what that's about? And also, later on,
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there was an emergency and people started flashing
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lights to get security's attention. So I think
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she was like, what's that about? Also, it's distracting.
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And instead, the guy should have just talked
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to her earpiece and been like, it's ASL, but
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no. So Mitski, ableist. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
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DANI: Tried to dim a deaf person's light.
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KARA: Wow.
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DANI: Wow.
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KARA: But just kidding. Physically and metaphorically.
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DANI: Fuck that guy, though. Because also, like, if
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you work at the venue, have some situational
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awareness. Maybe you approach, you see that interpretation
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is happening, and you say, oh, that's obviously
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what's happening. That light is clearly essential
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for access. I'm not even going to interrupt.
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I'm just going to say back to Mitski, that light
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is on for access.
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KARA: And Mitski would have been
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like, got it.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: And then continued singing.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Which is crazy. But this went on not too
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long, like less than five minutes. But the three
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of us were sitting-
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DANI: Five minutes of your experience
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that was interrupted because of that.
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KARA: And the
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three of us were quite uncomfortable.
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DANI: I bet.
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KARA: And my wife and my friend are both hearing. So
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they're listening and watching this conversation
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like, oh.
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DANI: What song was playing during all of
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that?
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KARA: I don't remember.
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DANI: Do you remember?
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KARA: No,
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I don't.
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DANI: Damn.
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KARA: I was too distracted.
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DANI: Right. Yeah,
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exactly. It was distracting. There was a lot
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going on. It's not fair to you. They should have
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prepared better.
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KARA: They literally, yeah, they really
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should have prepared better. And the access consultant
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came up to me after and apologized and they asked
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for my feedback. And I was like, guys, just communicate
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better.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: So overall, pretty good concert.
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Weird experience.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Great ASL interpreters.
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Love you guys. Thank you, Rori and Selena. So
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that was my Wednesday last week.
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DANI: A lot of theater
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lately.
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KARA: I love the theater.
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DANI: I know.
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KARA: [IN A FRENCH ACCENT] The theater.
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Should we get to the show? Season 1, Episode
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20, Game On, which aired March 6, 2012.
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DANI: Is there
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a painting for this?
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KARA: It is. I want you to Google
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it. It's called Game On by Jack Vettriano from
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2006.
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DANI: Oh, oh, oh.
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KARA: I think it's a great choice.
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DANI: Yeah, it totally is.
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KARA: Would you like to explain
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to the audience?
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DANI: It is a couple.
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KARA: It's quite erotic.
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DANI: It's quite, yeah. I wasn't expecting that. I
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don't know why.
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KARA: I know, me too. I was like, oh!
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DANI: A woman is pressed up against a wall and a man
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in like, a not full suit anymore. She's also wearing
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like, what do you call those?
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KARA: Thigh highs?
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DANI: Like
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thigh high, like kind of lingerie, like tights,
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pantyhose, I guess.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: Like the strappy kind.
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And then he's wearing a full suit and they are
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kissing and his hand is between her legs.
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KARA: And
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his other hand is holding her arms back. It's
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steamy.
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DANI: And they're in like the decor is giving
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hotel.
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KARA: So when I saw that, I was like, well,
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that tracks.
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DANI: That tracks.
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KARA: And also the name of it
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it is perfect because of the tournament.
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DANI: That's
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why I was like, certainly they just picked it
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assuming like, yeah, there's a painting.
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KARA: But
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no, once I looked up the painting, I was like,
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wow, that's perfect.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: Alright. Now we
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start off with Carlton. Everyone is in the locker
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room, including the men.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: They have an interpreter
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now.
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DANI: They have an interpreter now. I wish we
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had seen that scene of them being like, John,
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we got to cut the crap.
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KARA: We can't have you- we
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can't have Melody be doing this. Everyone is
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in the locker room, including the men. They have
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an interpreter. It's John, Melody, the interpreter
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who we don't know, and then the team. And Carlton
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has lost the playoffs.
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DANI: They have, and that's
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really sad. I just want to make a note. I don't
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know what background actors they were using
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in this scene. I don't know if they were pulling-
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I know sometimes they pull actual Deaf actors.
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That didn't feel like what was happening here.
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Maybe it was, but everyone in the locker room
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on the team looks 45 years old.
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KARA: I write later,
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everyone is white on both teams.
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DANI: Yeah. That's
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like, well Buckner it's like, yeah.
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Sure.
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DANI: But
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why are they 45?
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KARA: Great question.
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DANI: Anyway, I just
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it was really distracting when he's all sad.
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And I was like, that's a woman. That's a grown
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woman.
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KARA: That's a grown woman. Now Emmett is outside
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of Carlton and Bay approaches with the big booby
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comic book that she got last episode.
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DANI: Yeah. She's
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like, I didn't know if you wanted this back.
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He gave you that as a gift. But things are just
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tense between them. And so she's using it as
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an excuse.
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KARA: Also, I think she thought he got it
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for himself because he liked it. So I think she
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was like, maybe you want this back to read? And
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he was like, nah, I'm good.
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DANI: Maybe you want this
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back to look at the big booby monster hunter
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girl.
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KARA: Yeah. And then she's like, by the way,
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I told Ty that we're dating. Also, your birthday
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is coming up. What do you want for your birthday?
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Are you excited? And he's like, eh, I just want
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to be with you. I'm stuck in my parents' custody
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battle.
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DANI: Literally, does he want to be with her?
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KARA: Literally.
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DANI: It doesn't seem like it. But yeah,
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he's in his parents' custody battle and they're
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letting him choose who he wants to go with.
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KARA: And he wants to live with his dad.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Which
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is interesting because he was miserable living
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with his father.
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DANI: Weird of him.
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KARA: It just doesn't...
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They just don't really show any evidence of,
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like, he and Cameron's relationship, aside from
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Cameron being, like, very chill about everything.
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DANI: He's literally just mad about the motorcycle.
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Like, he doesn't actually want to be with his
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dad. He just wants to punish his mom.
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KARA: This man
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can hold a grudge.
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DANI: Which is, those were consequences
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to your own actions.
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KARA: Yeah, and whose fault is
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that, Emmett?
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DANI: Anyway, yeah, so he's like, blah,
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blah, blah, I'm gonna choose my dad. And then
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Bay's like, what? And then, cut to Daphne's
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at home at the Kennish house. And John's like,
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by the way, that team that we lost to, they got
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caught with alcohol. So now we are going to the,
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is it the playoffs or like the final?
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KARA: I think
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the finals now.
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DANI: The finals. So we are going to
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play in the finals now.
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KARA: Against.
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DANI: Against. Duh duh duh. Buckner.
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KARA: Crazy.
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DANI: And everyone's like, yay. And Daphne's
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like, no one's worried that this is going to
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be weird for me?
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KARA: That's true.
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DANI: No one says anything
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to her about it.
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KARA: No, that does not come up at
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all this episode.
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DANI: No. Well, it does on the court.
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Anyway, yay, basketball saved.
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KARA: They drank after
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they won the game.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Do you think they...
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I think I was like, okay, you had champagne after
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the game.
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DANI: No, I think it's stupid. It's like
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just the rules of the...
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KARA: Yeah, that's true.
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DANI: Whatever.
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And then Bay is, for some reason, still at Carlton,
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like cut back to Bay. She's still chilling at
16:42
Carlton. It's a school day. Like, what is she...
16:44
Anyway, Melody shows up. She looks like she's
16:48
just gotten out of her car.
16:48
KARA: Yes, I think she
16:51
did. So maybe it's morning.
16:51
DANI: It must be morning.
16:53
But like, Bay's like, oh, hey, like Emmett just
16:56
went inside. And Melody's like, no worries. I'm
16:59
here to see you. Doesn't she? She works there.
17:02
KARA: Right.
17:02
DANI: She's here for work. Anyway, I do love
17:05
that she was like, you know where Bay is?
17:07
She's at Carlton with my son.
17:10
So she's like, hey, girl. Also, there's no captions
17:13
at the start, which I think is really great.
17:16
KARA: I agree.
17:16
DANI: Melody's essentially like, I need your
17:19
help with the custody situation. And Bay's like,
17:22
what? And she finally voices custody because
17:25
she didn't know the sign.
17:25
KARA: This is just care.
17:28
DANI: Yeah. But like, yeah, that makes sense.
17:28
KARA: Custody,
17:31
like care back and forth.
17:31
DANI: Yeah, that tracks. And
17:34
then they're like, okay, now captions. And she's
17:37
like, I need you to make a statement saying,
17:39
like, basically the court will only let him choose
17:42
if they think both places are a safe place for
17:44
him to be. So I need you to make a statement
17:47
saying that Cameron's is not safe, which you
17:50
know it's not because you came to me in the start.
17:53
This is so much to put on Bay.
17:53
KARA: I think this is
17:56
not cool to ask of Bay. And even later, Regina
17:59
and Kathryn are like, we're the adults. Why
18:02
don't you talk to us first?
18:02
DANI: Yeah. And I feel
18:05
like Regina could make a statement. Couldn't
18:08
she say, like, I've heard from Bay? Like, why
18:11
does it have to come from Bay?
18:11
KARA: Why does it have
18:13
to come from a 16-year-old?
18:13
DANI: Yeah. I really
18:16
feel for Bay. I mean, I feel for Melody, too,
18:18
that, like, this is a tough situation. But, yeah,
18:21
I personally would not have done that.
18:21
KARA: Not at
18:24
all.
18:24
DANI: Especially because of the relationship her
18:26
and Bay have had, mostly due to her up until
18:29
this point. Like, she's kind of made it.
18:29
KARA: And
18:32
she's making it worse.
18:32
DANI: Yeah, she's making it
18:34
worse for sure.
18:34
KARA: This is so much pressure for
18:36
poor Bay.
18:36
DANI: Yeah.
18:36
KARA: Yeah, the two girls, so much
18:39
pressure on them. They're doing their best this
18:41
entire episode.
18:41
DANI: I know. You know who I think
18:44
is not doing her best?
18:44
KARA: Regina?
18:44
DANI: Regina. Why is she
18:47
still dating this guy?
18:47
KARA: I don't know. They're eating
18:50
ice cream in the car and he leans in for a kiss
18:53
but she's not into it.
18:53
DANI: No, and then he's like okay
18:55
I've done everything to express interest in you.
18:58
What do I need to do or like what's up? And she
19:01
says to him, my ex, whatever he was, just like popped
19:06
back up a couple months ago again. Okay if a grown
19:10
person said to me, my ex, whatever.
19:10
KARA: I'm getting
19:14
out of the car.
19:14
DANI: What a red flag. Don't be like,
19:17
this guy, my situationship.
19:17
KARA: But then he kisses
19:21
her anyway.
19:21
DANI: Yeah.
19:21
KARA: After she rejected him.
19:21
DANI: She's
19:24
like, I'm just not ready. And he's like, I'll
19:26
see about that. And then he throws her ice cream
19:30
cone.
19:30
KARA: Perfectly good ice cream.
19:30
DANI: Out of the car.
19:33
And he does pause to be like, I'm really hoping
19:36
you think that's romantic. And she does.
19:36
KARA: That
19:39
is such an ick to me. Littering?
19:39
DANI: Can you imagine?
19:42
KARA: I'd be like, I wasn't finished with that, bitch.
19:45
DANI: That's so- also, it is littering.
19:45
KARA: It is.
19:45
DANI: What
19:48
a waste. Don't be wasteful.
19:48
KARA: That ice cream was
19:51
not finished. They had plenty more to go and
19:53
they didn't even eat the cone yet. It was really
19:55
upsetting.
19:55
DANI: Yeah. So he's annoying. And then.
19:59
KARA: We're at the Kennish house.
19:59
DANI: Yeah. And Craig Tebbe
20:02
has a friend who's an editor, I guess.
20:02
KARA: Yeah.
20:04
He mentioned this like an episode or two ago.
20:06
DANI: I think he mentioned this in his, like, interview
20:08
to be their lawyer.
20:08
KARA: Yeah. He knows someone who's
20:11
a publisher. And he's like, great. By the way,
20:13
the publisher wants to meet with Kathryn. Obviously,
20:16
it's the same day as Daphne's tournament because
20:18
conflict has to be there.
20:18
DANI: Yeah.
20:18
KARA: But John is like
20:21
okay, talk to her and then come to the tournament.
20:24
DANI: Yeah. Kathryn's really like, I can skip it.
20:26
I don't need to talk. But yeah. Anyway, so she's
20:30
going to meet with this editor. I don't really.
20:32
KARA: I did not care about this plot.
20:32
DANI: I did not care
20:34
about Kathryn in this episode. Sorry, girl.
20:35
KARA: I did not care about Regina and Kathryn in
20:37
this episode.
20:37
DANI: No. And then at Carlton, Daphne's
20:40
walking around and there's like signs up everywhere.
20:44
Everyone's like, good luck at the game.
20:44
KARA: They're
20:46
going to Springfield.
20:46
DANI: They're going to Springfield.
20:48
And then one of the people that says good luck
20:51
at the game is Principal Rose. Why is this hearing
20:55
bitch always shouting. Do you think that that
20:59
was the actor's choice because they don't understand?
21:02
Or do you think they were like, it is a good
21:04
character choice?
21:04
KARA: I don't know. Because she's
21:07
like, good luck.
21:07
DANI: Yeah, she's literally so loud
21:11
right next to Daphne. Good luck at the game,
21:14
Daphne.
21:14
KARA: Maybe the actor just really projects.
21:18
DANI: It's hard to watch.
21:18
KARA: It's tough.
21:18
DANI: It feels offensive.
21:22
KARA: But Daphne's like, this is so much pressure.
21:24
DANI: Yeah.
21:24
KARA: I am- I do not need this right now. But
21:27
Emmett's there. And he's like, I can help. You're
21:30
probably going to lose. This is kind of funny.
21:32
Yeah. Buckner's better.
21:32
DANI: Yeah. He's like, you're
21:35
probably going to lose. And everyone's going
21:36
to be really disappointed. And ultimately, it's
21:38
not going to matter.
21:38
KARA: And you have a crap shoot
21:40
and bad taste in music.
21:40
DANI: Yeah. And then. Just
21:43
some best friend stuff.
21:43
KARA: This is, I think, where
21:45
you asked me about the signing.
21:45
DANI: Yes. I felt like
21:48
the captions in this conversation did not match
21:51
the signing I was seeing.
21:51
KARA: Yeah, so she basically
21:54
asked Emmett to come to the game and she's like,
21:56
you gotta go, I'm there. But the captions say,
21:59
I could really use someone in the stand whose
22:02
self-esteem isn't tied to me sinking in a basket
22:04
at the right time. What do you think she actually
22:06
signed? I want to hear your interpretation.
22:06
DANI: What
22:09
I caught was like, I need someone in the stands.
22:13
Like, I need you sitting up there because you're
22:15
my friend.
22:15
KARA: Yeah.
22:15
DANI: That's what I saw.
22:15
KARA: Yeah, that's
22:18
pretty much what she says. I wrote the ASL gloss.
22:20
So it says, I really need you there. They all
22:23
worry my basketball, but you and I best friends
22:26
long time, which is just a transcription, guys.
22:28
It's not the translation. So I guess it's, I
22:32
need you there because everyone else worries
22:34
about my basketball skills, but you would be
22:36
there just as my friend.
22:36
DANI: Yeah.
22:36
KARA: But that's way
22:39
different from what the caption said.
22:39
DANI: Yeah, it's
22:41
very, like...the self-esteem part, it just felt
22:44
very flowery in a way where I'm like, the core
22:47
of what she was saying to me was like, they're
22:50
all going to be there for the basketball and
22:52
I need you to be there for me because you're
22:54
my friend.
22:54
KARA: Right. Which the caption should have
22:56
said. That was probably the biggest difference
22:59
between the captions and the signing that I've seen
23:01
so far. And then I wrote another way that they
23:04
could translate it correctly, which would be
23:07
like, you there, I want like self-esteem depend
23:11
on me basketball success. But if I miss shot,
23:14
you disappointed? No.
23:14
DANI: Yeah, that would have been
23:17
more- I would have been like, that's what the
23:18
captions say.
23:18
KARA: Yeah. And that's true ASL.
23:18
DANI: So yeah,
23:23
interesting. I wonder what happened there.
23:23
KARA: Now,
23:26
Regina, Kathryn and Melody are together in
23:29
the kitchen. It seems like Melody told Regina
23:32
about the testifying situation.
23:32
DANI: Yeah.
23:32
KARA: And then
23:34
she dragged her right to Kathryn. Thank God.
23:38
DANI: Good for Regina for once.
23:38
KARA: For once.
23:38
DANI: Good choice.
23:41
KARA: Melody's explaining the custody situation to
23:43
the two of them. And Regina and Kathryn are
23:46
both playing mama bear. And they're like, this
23:48
is not appropriate. You should have come straight
23:50
to us instead of ambushing Bay with this. But
23:53
you can see Kathryn, like, the wheels are turning
23:56
in her head. She's, like, empathizing with Melody.
23:59
Like, oh, okay. Okay.
23:59
DANI: It's a bad situation in
24:02
the house. It's just like there's no good solution
24:05
here beyond Melody and Cameron fucking like talking
24:09
to each other.
24:09
KARA: Literally.
24:09
DANI: Things are so volatile
24:11
between them. I wish we like understood why.
24:11
KARA: Yeah
24:15
I- I mean it seems like Cameron is having like
24:18
a weird midlife crisis but like there's gotta
24:20
be more to why they broke up. Did he cheat on
24:23
her with Olivia, like?
24:23
DANI: Right. Don't know Don't know.
24:27
KARA: Bay arrives home and she's not being receptive
24:29
to Kathryn's questions about the custody thing.
24:32
DANI: No, she just says, I've got it under control.
24:35
I don't need anyone's help. And then she goes
24:37
straight to Daphne.
24:37
KARA: Which I thought was sweet.
24:39
DANI: Aw, sisterhood.
24:39
KARA: And then Daphne rightfully says,
24:42
wow, you can't win. Simcom but awesome. Daphne
24:46
says, I don't know what you could really do,
24:49
but I would say don't force it. Like, I do think
24:52
Emmett should be living with Melody, but you
24:54
shouldn't force the situation. Just, like, gently
24:56
push him in the right direction.
24:56
DANI: Yeah. And then
24:59
she says, I'll try to push him a little too.
25:01
KARA: Yeah.
25:01
DANI: Which she does not get a chance to do in
25:03
this episode.
25:03
KARA: No, not at all. Well, she's too
25:06
busy with the basketball.
25:06
DANI: She's got a lot going
25:08
on.
25:08
KARA: And then she's talking about the tournament
25:10
and Bay's like, oh, yeah, congrats about that.
25:12
By the way, I can't make it. I have class or
25:14
something.
25:14
DANI: They worked really overtime in the
25:17
script to make sure that it was understood why
25:20
some of the actors weren't going to be at the
25:22
basketball tournament.
25:22
KARA: Why Toby and Bay were
25:23
not going to be there.
25:23
DANI: Which was, I guess, for
25:27
the plot.
25:27
KARA: What's going to happen later.
25:27
DANI: Yeah.
25:29
KARA: Which makes sense. But they had to make it very
25:32
explicit. Like Bay said, my English teacher's
25:34
being such a bitch. I can't go.
25:34
DANI: Yeah.
25:34
KARA: So she
25:37
won't be at the basketball tournament.
25:37
DANI: She actually
25:39
says bitch, too, which I thought was crazy for
25:41
Freeform.
25:41
KARA: I know, and she signs it.
25:41
DANI: Yeah.
25:41
KARA: That
25:44
was awesome.
25:44
DANI: She goes, bitch. Yeah. Yeah, and
25:48
then at Buckner, Toby's in the library, and
25:51
Simone finds him there. I'd just love these two
25:54
to hang out anywhere else.
25:54
KARA: They love the library.
25:57
DANI: They were like, we built a set for the library,
25:59
guys. We gotta use it.
25:59
KARA: We have to use it.
25:59
DANI: But
26:01
he's got headphones in. And she tugs one of his
26:06
earbuds out of his ear as she comes by.
26:06
KARA: No, girl.
26:10
DANI: I would be livid.
26:10
KARA: Yeah.
26:10
DANI: And she's there to, like,
26:13
beg for forgiveness. And that's how she starts.
26:16
KARA: What did she say?
26:16
DANI: She's there to beg for forgiveness,
26:18
again.
26:18
KARA: She says I'm sorry, again. Also come to my
26:21
game.
26:21
DANI: No, she's like what if you told your teacher
26:24
that you are developing the chicken pox and so
26:27
you can't go?
26:27
KARA: And Toby goes well I'm vaccinated
26:30
like a normal person.
26:30
DANI: Yeah.
26:30
KARA: So I'm not gonna get
26:33
it actually.
26:33
DANI: Simone anti-vax.
26:33
KARA: And Simone goes
26:37
well, I'm anti-vax. None of this happened. But
26:39
she's like come to my game. I have a hotel room
26:42
all to myself. Again, Buckner has money.
26:42
DANI: The exposition
26:45
here. They're really laying a trap.
26:45
KARA: And she's
26:48
like, what if you just lied and came. And he's
26:50
like, no.
26:50
DANI: Simone's always like, what if we just
26:53
lied?
26:53
KARA: Yeah. Same with last episode where he was
26:56
like, I have the kegger party with Guitar Face.
26:59
And she was like, just ditch it.
26:59
DANI: Yeah. Just tell
27:01
Wilke.
27:01
KARA: Do what I want you to do.
27:01
DANI: Yeah.
27:01
KARA: Do what I want
27:04
you to do, actually.
27:04
DANI: And he's like, kind of considering
27:06
it. He's like, maybe, we'll see. Toby!
27:06
KARA: Toby! If
27:10
he had one conversation with his sisters.
27:10
DANI: I get
27:13
that Maiara Walsh is, like, beautiful.
27:13
KARA: She's
27:16
gorgeous. But she's a sociopath.
27:16
DANI: But Simone is
27:19
a sociopath.
27:19
KARA: Yes.
27:19
DANI: Toby, you cannot possibly want
27:23
to get laid that bad.
27:23
KARA: I just think you need to
27:25
have one conversation with Bay and or Daphne
27:27
to realize that she is insane.
27:27
DANI: Yeah.
27:27
KARA: And then
27:31
just, I don't know.
27:31
DANI: So then, yeah, I guess Toby
27:33
was at school early because then back at the
27:36
guest house, Patrick like calls Regina and he's
27:39
like, by the way, I'm around the corner and I
27:42
want to come bring you bagels. And Daphne's still
27:44
there.
27:44
KARA: Yeah. He just pops up.
27:44
DANI: Yeah. He's like
27:48
really into Regina.
27:48
KARA: Yeah. Also not cool though.
27:52
He knows she has a child and that's like something
27:54
you talk about separately.
27:54
DANI: But you know who is
27:56
cool with it is Daphne.
27:56
KARA: Yeah. Daphne's like,
27:59
great. I love bagels. I love lox.
27:59
DANI: Yeah. He brings
28:01
over like a bunch of stuff. And she's like, this
28:05
is awesome. He seems great. Like, have fun, you
28:08
two. And she leaves.
28:08
KARA: Also, she hates Angelo.
28:11
So she's like, great. Mom's getting over him.
28:13
DANI: True. Yeah. And Regina's like, you can't just
28:16
show up here with bagels.
28:16
KARA: And meet my kids.
28:16
DANI: And
28:19
I will say, like, Patrick's very, like, because
28:22
he's obsessed with her, he just, like, pivots.
28:24
So he's like, oh, OK. Like, so I won't come by
28:26
with dinner later? And she just, like, finds
28:28
that so cute. And then they kiss again.
28:28
KARA: I know.
28:31
Regina finds weird things cute. She's like literally,
28:34
dancing to a first dance at a wedding. My favorite.
28:38
DANI: Yeah. So I don't know, but he's, he's icky to
28:41
me. Like something's shady about him.
28:41
KARA: Yeah. I
28:44
don't know. I don't remember what happens with
28:46
them.
28:46
DANI: Also, when was the last time we saw Adrianna?
28:50
KARA: Right. Didn't she move back in?
28:50
DANI: I thought she
28:52
moved back in, but we have not been seeing her.
28:54
What does she think of Patrick?
28:54
KARA: She's probably
28:56
busy with Jane the Virgin. When did Jane the
28:58
Virgin come out? Give me a second.
28:58
DANI: I was really
29:00
obsessed with that show.
29:00
KARA: Great show.
29:00
DANI: Great show.
29:03
So unfortunate that literally everyone involved
29:05
with it is so cursed now. It's like Glee.
29:05
KARA: I know.
29:08
Jane the Virgin came out in 2014, so maybe not
29:11
yet then.
29:11
DANI: I guess they just didn't have anything
29:13
for her character to do.
29:13
KARA: I guess not.
29:13
DANI: But you'd
29:15
think that she'd be there to support Daphne's
29:18
game and such.
29:18
KARA: Or meet Patrick. Well, she's met
29:21
Patrick.
29:21
DANI: She's met Patrick. But just in general.
29:24
I don't know. Maybe Adrianna would have liked
29:26
a bagel.
29:26
KARA: Yeah.
29:26
DANI: She would have enjoyed a little
29:28
lox. Anyway.
29:28
KARA: Now we are at Cameron's and Bay
29:32
is telling Emmett about the testifying situation
29:35
and how Melody asked her to make a statement.
29:38
And he's like, Bay, stay out of it.
29:38
DANI: Yeah, he's
29:41
very clear. This is so tough for her. I understand.
29:45
KARA: But she's like, well. It's not like I'm doing
29:47
this on purpose. People are putting me in these
29:49
tough situations.
29:49
DANI: Yeah, he says, stop getting
29:50
in the middle. And she said, everyone's putting
29:53
me there.
29:53
KARA: Putting me there against my will.
29:55
DANI: Yeah. This is so hard, though. Because, like,
29:58
I totally understand from Emmett's point of view.
30:00
Like, you are my girlfriend. Stay out of my parents'
30:03
business. Like, this is a mess.
30:03
KARA: He says something
30:06
like, this custody battle is like a war, but
30:10
you are, like, my safe island.
30:10
DANI: Yeah, he keeps
30:13
saying that, but I don't feel like he actually
30:14
feels that way about Bay. She's been involved
30:17
since the start, like he basically moved out because
30:19
of Bay.
30:19
KARA:
30:19
In some ways.
30:19
DANI: Because of her, but it's not
30:22
her fault.
30:22
KARA: Right.
30:22
DANI: I feel for him.
30:22
KARA: Yeah, you're right.
30:25
Regina is at the guest house and she gets a call
30:28
from Patrick and he's like by the way there's
30:30
a museum opening in Arkansas tomorrow night. And
30:33
Regina's like, so sorry, I have Daphne's basketball
30:36
game. And Patrick has this look on his face as
30:39
if he's never been rejected before. Now we're
30:42
back at the Kennish house.
30:42
DANI: Yeah.
30:42
KARA: And Toby is
30:44
playing video games when Bay approaches for advice
30:47
about Emmett's birthday gift. And she's like,
30:50
I think I want to get a motorcycle fender and
30:53
paint something really cool on it. And then what
30:55
was the second choice?
30:55
DANI: Or a book.
30:55
KARA: Or a book.
30:57
And then cut to the next scene.
30:57
DANI: Yeah, she basically
31:00
goes, Toby, I need your help getting this birthday
31:03
gift for Emmett. Come with me. I don't know why
31:06
she needs him for this.
31:06
KARA: But I also don't know
31:08
why he- how he knows about motorcycles all of
31:10
a sudden.
31:10
DANI: I guess she's just like you're a boy.
31:12
KARA: Yeah.
31:12
DANI: I don't know. I feel like Daphne would have
31:15
been a better choice honestly.
31:15
KARA: But it's very nice
31:18
if Toby helps since I haven't seen the two of
31:20
them together in many episodes.
31:20
DANI: Yeah maybe the
31:22
writers were just like give 'em a scene. So they
31:24
go to Cameron's place, to the garage, to check
31:28
on the new motorcycle that I guess Emmett and
31:31
his dad have been building together.
31:31
KARA: And basically
31:34
they're there because they need to look at the
31:36
measurements and like the wheel size to figure
31:38
out what size fender to get.
31:38
DANI: To find a good fender.
31:40
And Olivia lets them in and she takes the opportunity
31:45
to make a blowjob comment for some reason in
31:49
front of two teenagers.
31:49
KARA: To talk about her high school
31:53
sex life to high schoolers. It's just weird.
31:56
DANI: It's so weird that she does that. It's so inappropriate.
31:58
Like, obviously, that's the point, is that it's
32:00
inappropriate. But even watching it, knowing
32:02
that that's why they wrote it in, I'm like, I
32:04
still feel uncomfortable.
32:04
KARA: That's crazy.
32:04
DANI: She's
32:06
like, that's such a cool gift that you're giving
32:07
him. The only thing I got my high school boyfriend
32:10
lasted, like, five minutes.
32:10
KARA: And Toby and Bay
32:13
are like, oh, okay.
32:13
DANI: And then she gets a call.
32:17
KARA: So she leaves the garage.
32:17
DANI: She's like, I think
32:19
there's, like, a measuring tape over there somewhere.
32:21
Which, why didn't they bring one? That's why
32:24
they were truly here. I thought they were here
32:25
to snoop, but they're not.
32:25
KARA: I think Toby was originally
32:28
looking at the tire or the rim for numbers, and
32:32
he was like, that's weird. The numbers are rubbed
32:34
off. Let me just get a tape measure. So he starts
32:36
opening drawers, and then all of a sudden he
32:39
opens one drawer, and it's filled with weed.
32:42
DANI: Individual baggies.
32:42
KARA: Individual baggies of weed.
32:45
DANI: A dime bag.
32:45
KARA: A what bag?
32:45
DANI: A dime bag.
32:45
KARA: A dime bag,
32:48
yes.
32:48
DANI: Isn't that what that is?
32:48
KARA: You're asking the
32:50
wrong person, but probably.
32:50
DANI: He opens the drawer
32:52
and it's literally full of dime bags.
32:52
KARA: Olivia
32:55
then walks in and immediately lies and says,
32:58
that's not mine. I'm holding it for a friend.
32:59
DANI: I'm holding it for a friend. Please don't tell
33:01
Melody.
33:01
KARA: Please.
33:01
DANI: Yeah. Like, just very explicitly.
33:06
She's like, don't tell Melody. It'll kill Cameron
33:08
if he loses Emmett.
33:08
KARA: She knows she's fucked.
33:08
DANI: Yeah.
33:11
So.
33:11
KARA: Also, extremely dangerous and ignorant of
33:16
Olivia to be involved in something like this
33:18
when Emmett was recently arrested and faced
33:21
police brutality and Deaf people in general are
33:23
just more likely to face police brutality and
33:26
police misconduct.
33:26
DANI: And also, like, she's living
33:29
in her boyfriend's home. Like, clearly she's
33:31
just moved into this home as well, with his teenage
33:35
son.
33:35
KARA: It's one thing to smoke, but it's another
33:37
thing to sell. And that looks like a lot.
33:37
DANI: It
33:41
does look like a lot. So, especially not in
33:45
Missouri.
33:45
KARA: Yeah, it's definitely not legal there.
33:47
Yeah. So I was just like, oh, man. Okay. Now
33:51
in Springfield.
33:51
DANI: Springfield. New location, mama.
33:54
KARA: It's a hotel lobby. John and Daphne are checking
33:57
into the hotel and a Deaf mom and daughter approach.
34:01
And they're like, oh, my God, we're so excited
34:03
for the game. We drove 11 hours from Indiana
34:07
just to see this game.
34:07
DANI: Crazy.
34:07
KARA: And then Daphne
34:11
decides to simcom to this little girl.
34:11
DANI: Yeah.
34:13
Who also, that little girl did not want to clock
34:16
into work that day. The way that she is-
34:16
KARA: This
34:19
actor, I know.
34:19
DANI: The way that this eight-year
34:21
-old is just dead-faced, staring at her, doesn't
34:24
sign anything back, doesn't say anything back.
34:27
KARA: Not excited at all to be there.
34:27
DANI: Not excited at
34:29
all. Doesn't seem to comprehend what Daphne's
34:31
saying. Tough.
34:31
KARA: Yeah.
34:31
DANI: I was like, why? This was
34:35
part of my dream. I'm saying this contributed
34:37
because I was like watching Daphne communicate
34:39
with this child and I'm like, go girl, give us
34:42
nothing.
34:42
KARA: She's in awe because Daphne decided
34:45
to simcom to her.
34:45
DANI: She's shocked.
34:45
KARA: She's like,
34:48
I came all this way for this Deaf star player
34:51
to simcom to me?
34:51
DANI: Maybe. Maybe she was making
34:53
a character choice. You're right.
34:53
KARA: Maybe. And
34:56
then the mom is like, by the way, I met another
34:58
family and they came all the way from Houston,
35:00
Texas.
35:00
DANI: Crazy.
35:00
KARA: So Daphne's like holy shit, that
35:04
is a lot on my shoulders. So I do see the tournament
35:08
as being like a symbol of being so much more
35:11
than a game which Daphne does say later. It's
35:14
now- it's about equality for Deaf people and representation
35:17
especially for Deaf schools which are being closed
35:20
very fast.
35:20
DANI: Yeah.
35:20
KARA: And that's true. The Deaf community
35:24
is like the size of a pea, so if there is a game
35:26
like that, people do come from far and wide.
35:26
DANI: Especially
35:29
because like not only are they just generally
35:32
the underdogs, but like they're the underdogs
35:34
up against a rich, privileged private school.
35:37
KARA: Like it's a great-
35:37
DANI: It's a perfect storm of like,
35:41
wow, what an amazing story.
35:41
KARA: And then also Daphne
35:44
does have the threat of the team being cut.
35:44
DANI: Yes.
35:46
KARA: So it's not just winning or losing the game.
35:49
It's also like, if I lose, this team is going
35:52
to be cut.
35:52
DANI: Yeah. And all these people who came
35:55
out to support will be like disappointed.
35:55
KARA: Right.
35:57
Yeah. Emmett arrives at the hotel now and he
36:00
sees Melody because Melody is coaching, obviously.
36:02
DANI: Yeah. And he goes off on her immediately. Well,
36:05
Melody's so excited to see him.
36:05
DANI: Yeah.
36:05
KARA: She was
36:07
like, oh my God. I can get a suite for us and
36:09
we can like order in. And he's like, no, I'm
36:13
sharing a room with my friends unless you want
36:16
to go behind my back again and tell my girlfriend
36:18
about our sleeping arrangements. And Melody's
36:20
like, okay. And then he goes -
36:20
DANI: Poor Melody.
36:20
KARA: I
36:22
know.
36:22
DANI: She kind of can't win here.
36:22
KARA: No. He's like,
36:25
well, dad and I are finally getting close. You
36:28
complained for years that he didn't make an effort
36:30
to be a dad. Now we're finally getting close.
36:33
And you just want to take that away. And then
36:35
Melody says Cameron has gotten a little off the
36:38
rails.
36:38
DANI: And it's true.
36:38
KARA: And it's true. And then
36:40
Emmett's like-
36:40
DANI: I think she's being polite. I think
36:42
he's gone way off the rails.
36:42
KARA: Way off the rails.
36:44
And then Emmett's like, okay, whatever. And then
36:46
he leaves. It's b-ball practice time. Carlton
36:49
arrives and they see-
36:49
DANI: So funny. I just skipped
36:51
over that entirely in my notes. I was like, I
36:53
don't care.
36:53
KARA: Well, Carlton arrives and they see
36:55
Buckner playing. And the coach is like, okay,
36:58
Buckner, clean up. Also, massages are in 15 minutes.
37:02
DANI: Ugh, I wish.
37:02
KARA: But then one of the tournament guys
37:05
approaches and he's like, I heard an anonymous
37:08
tip that Daphne can't play because she hasn't
37:11
been a consecutive Carlton player for the past
37:14
six weeks. And I just know who fucking snitched,
37:17
but...
37:17
DANI: Well, we think we know.
37:17
KARA: No, I know.
37:17
DANI: Okay.
37:20
KARA: But then the tournament guy, the Buckner coach,
37:23
John, Melody, and Daphne are all sitting at this
37:25
table. And then Melody gives like this impassioned
37:28
speech about what Daphne and Carlton mean
37:31
for the Deaf community.
37:31
DANI: Yes.
37:31
KARA: And it's going to
37:33
look really shitty, honestly, if they do that.
37:35
DANI: Of course. And it's important to note, as she's
37:38
making this speech, she asks Daphne to interpret
37:40
for her. And Daphne says this later, like, she
37:44
feels like the mouthpiece for this community.
37:47
Like the literal mouthpiece in a case where Melody
37:50
is like, okay, Daphne, defend yourself via me,
37:53
via you.
37:53
KARA: Right.
37:53
DANI: You know? So it's a tough position
37:56
to be put in.
37:56
KARA: Yeah, she's literally straddling
37:59
the deaf and hearing world.
37:59
DANI: Yeah.
37:59
KARA: She does have
38:02
a cool shirt on, though. I don't know if you
38:03
noticed, but it was a light switch. And the top
38:05
said ASL and the bottom said English. Which tracks,
38:09
because that's literally what she was just doing.
38:10
DANI: That is really on the nose. The costume department
38:13
was like, we ate. We ate with that.
38:13
KARA: Yeah.
38:13
DANI: Kathryn
38:16
is practicing her book pitch to her children
38:20
who the book is about.
38:20
KARA: Right.
38:20
DANI: I was like, this
38:23
is, I felt bad for the kids. They were trying
38:25
to be supportive. And Toby was like, I lived
38:27
it and I would still read it.
38:27
KARA: Yeah.
38:27
DANI: But.
38:27
KARA: Bay
38:30
is not paying attention.
38:30
DANI: No, she's got other
38:33
things on her mind. She doesn't really care.
38:35
What words does Kathryn use? She's like, I
38:37
looked at my daughter with her-
38:37
KARA: With her proud
38:39
ringlets and her fiery eyes or something.
38:39
DANI: Yeah.
38:42
And then she's like, Bay, are you okay with me
38:44
saying proud ringlets and fiery eyes?
38:44
KARA: And Bay's
38:46
like, huh?
38:46
DANI: Yeah. She's like, I don't care. If
38:48
I were Bay, I would care. I don't know. I feel
38:50
weird about it.
38:50
KARA: I think it's a sweet line.
38:50
DANI: It's
38:53
a sweet line, but I just mean, like, I think
38:55
I wouldn't want to not be involved at all.
38:55
KARA: With
38:58
the book?
38:58
DANI: Yeah. Like, don't run your pitches
39:00
past me. Don't consult me. Like, just do what
39:03
you're going to do.
39:03
KARA: But I think Kathryn's trying
39:05
to be respectful.
39:05
DANI: I know. I just think it's a
39:07
tough position. Another tough position for Bay
39:10
to be put in.
39:10
KARA: Another tough position for Bay
39:11
to be put in.
39:11
DANI: And then John interrupts that.
39:13
He calls Toby and interrupts the pitch.
39:13
KARA: Well,
39:16
he calls Kathryn, but then Toby picks it up
39:18
because he notices Bay and Kathryn need to have
39:21
a conversation. So he picks it up.
39:21
DANI: Okay.
39:21
KARA: So Bay
39:23
and Kathryn have a conversation in one room,
39:25
and then he and John talk on the phone in another.
39:27
DANI: Well, John is basically- when Toby picks up,
39:29
John's like, your girlfriend is a snitch, by
39:31
the way. Like, that's the subtext. He doesn't
39:34
know about Simone. But, like, immediately he's
39:37
like, someone on the team tried to report Daphne.
39:41
Someone has. And Toby's like, who would have
39:43
done that? And John's like, someone with a pretty
39:46
big grudge against Daphne, I guess. Laying it
39:49
on a little thick.
39:49
KARA: And the next room over, Bay is
39:51
finally opening up to her mom about the custody
39:53
battle. And she's like, you know, if I don't
39:56
testify, Melody's going to hate me. If I do,
39:58
Emmett's going to hate me. And there's just no
40:00
winning. And Kathryn says, I'm sure whatever
40:03
you decide, Emmett's going to understand. Which
40:06
I don't think.
40:06
DANI: I don't think that's true.
40:06
KARA: I wrote,
40:08
Emmett loves to hold a grudge.
40:08
DANI: Emmett loves to
40:11
hold a grudge. Also, he's a 16-year-old boy.
40:12
16-year-old boys, famously not a compassionate
40:15
people.
40:15
KARA: But then Kathryn says, if you really
40:18
care about him and he's in trouble, you need
40:20
to say something no matter the cost.
40:20
DANI: Yeah. God,
40:23
this sucks for Bay.
40:23
KARA: It sucks. Someone save her.
40:27
ANI: Yeah. Meanwhile, Emmett is hanging out with Daphne.
40:30
That man loves to put on a stupid hat. That's
40:33
like his favorite thing.
40:33
KARA: This is the weirdest
40:36
gift shop ever.
40:36
DANI: It's like, it's gotta be like
40:38
props for the game, but they're like specifically
40:41
unbranded props.
40:41
KARA: There's a sock monkey? There are
40:45
the hand clappers, which makes sense.
40:45
DANI: Yeah. And,
40:47
like, Emmett tosses on a pair of, like, novelty
40:51
giant sunglasses and a cowboy hat?
40:51
KARA: I guess. I
40:55
just think this would have been a great opportunity
40:57
for Carlton to sell some shirts and make some
40:59
money for the school.
40:59
DANI: Well, the marketing team
41:02
for the school is not doing their job. No, Principal
41:05
Rose. Get on that.
41:05
KARA: Learn some signing. Better signing.
41:09
DANI: Yeah, but Simone comes over and interrupts their
41:12
little pal around to be like, oh my god, I'm so
41:16
glad you're able to play. I'm so sorry that happened.
41:19
KARA: And I didn't rat you out.
41:19
DANI: Well, Daphne's like
41:22
yeah, I bet you are and Simone's like well, it
41:24
wasn't me. I kind of believe her because then
41:27
she says to Daphne like, you know me you know
41:30
it's only fun for me if it's competitive.
41:30
KARA: It's
41:33
what she says later that I think it's a lie, which
41:35
I'll tell you about.
41:35
DANI: Okay hmm. Yeah but she's
41:38
like I miss you. Like, let's be friends. Let's
41:41
hang out after all of this. And Daphne's like,
41:44
I don't know, girl. And then Simone just, like,
41:46
sadly walks away.
41:46
KARA: Emmett watched this whole conversation.
41:48
DANI: Yeah, and Emmett's like, you think she was for
41:50
real? And Daphne's like, who could tell?
41:50
KARA: Now,
41:53
Bay is at Cameron's house talking to Cameron.
41:56
DANI: Yeah, Bay's like, you know what I should do?
41:59
I should just go straight to the source, the
42:00
other source.
42:00
KARA: Yeah.
42:00
DANI: And it's clear. She clearly
42:04
goes and is like, hey, your girlfriend's fucking
42:06
selling weed.
42:06
KARA: And he's like, shit, she still
42:09
is?
42:09
DANI: Yeah, like, he knew about it. He goes, I
42:11
told Olivia it was that stuff or me. Okay, so
42:14
you did know.
42:14
KARA: Right. And then he's like, that's
42:17
it. I'm going to ask Olivia to move out. And
42:19
Bay's like, oh, my God, I'm getting myself deeper
42:21
in this. Now I'm getting involved in, like, an
42:23
extra relationship.
42:23
DANI: Yeah, she was like, that's
42:25
not what I want. And he was like, well, it's
42:27
either that or let Melody win. And Bay's like,
42:30
what the fuck is wrong with you? This is not
42:33
about somebody winning or losing. She's so red
42:36
-faced during this scene, too. She clearly is
42:39
like, this is fucking hard for me. Cameron sucks.
42:43
KARA: What I really did like about this scene, though,
42:45
and also with her conversation with Melody prior,
42:48
is that we really see Bay's massive improvement
42:51
in signing. That she is able to have these really
42:53
difficult conversations. When prior, she was
42:56
like, ah, uh.
42:56
DANI: No, she's put the work in.
42:56
KARA: Even
43:00
though she's simcomming to Cameron.
43:00
DANI: Yeah. Well,
43:03
her own mother is simcomming to her Deaf daughter.
43:07
So, like, what hope was there for Bay?
43:07
KARA: Exactly.
43:10
Yeah, now we're home. And Kathryn is presenting
43:13
the book proposal to the publisher. And the publisher's
43:17
like, great proposal. I love you. But Sarah Lazar,
43:20
the journalist, is writing a book about the
43:23
switch too and there's a good chance that she's
43:25
going to get her book out before you, so we need
43:28
not just your story, but Regina's, because having
43:31
both is more compelling and it's probably going
43:33
to sell better.
43:33
DANI: I feel like this is such an unrealistic
43:36
plot point. I just think if there were two books,
43:39
I don't know maybe we need to get on a consult
43:42
about the publishing industry, but I feel if there
43:45
was a celebrity memoir like by the celebrity
43:49
and then a biography by like a random journalist
43:52
that doesn't know them.
43:52
KARA: Exactly.
43:52
DANI: Like which one's
43:55
gonna sell better? Obviously the fucking-
43:55
KARA: The mom!
43:58
DANI: Like yeah, like Kathryn's voice on her own should
44:00
be enough. I understand why the writers are doing
44:03
this for the plot, but I just like did not buy-
44:05
not only that, but also you should not, if you're
44:09
pitching a book, you should not internalize the
44:12
advice from the first editor you talk to without
44:15
shopping it around to other people. Because
44:19
this editor says this, like, it's the definitive
44:22
truth. Like, it's too big of a risk to publish
44:24
your book without also having Regina as a co
44:28
-writer.
44:28
KARA: Yeah, it was strange. Like, yeah, she
44:31
should be going to different publishers.
44:31
DANI: Yeah,
44:33
and, like, you're a well-connected person.
44:33
KARA: Yeah,
44:36
why did you have Craig Tebbe do this? You have the
44:39
means to go find all these other people. Melody
44:42
and Regina are at the hotel bar. Regina, thankfully,
44:44
is not drinking. She's having, like, a little
44:46
Perrier.
44:46
DANI: Yeah, they're having a little bestie
44:48
chat.
44:48
KARA: And Melody asks about the gallery guy and
44:51
Regina's like, I'm not feeling it. He's not a
44:53
parent. He doesn't get it.
44:53
DANI: Yeah, and then Melody's
44:56
like, is it that or are you just still not
44:59
over Angelo and Regina's like okay, you got me
45:03
like obviously I'm still not over Angelo, like
45:06
he always has this hold on me and Melody's like
45:09
I miss being in love like that and Regina's like
45:12
well, I don't want it. And I thought I thought
45:14
the whole exchange was very Wuthering Heights,
45:16
actually.
45:16
KARA: I don't understand the reference but
45:18
I believe it.
45:18
DANI: She was just like, I'm suffering
45:20
like for this love and I don't even want it.
45:20
KARA: And
45:24
Melody's like I want it.
45:24
DANI: Melody's like I want
45:26
it and then Melody says, okay, Melody says to
45:30
Regina, well, I'll always be here for you.
45:30
KARA: And
45:33
I thought that was like.
45:33
DANI: Wait, and then it cuts
45:36
to the next scene is Simone, except we don't
45:41
know that it's Simone. It's a shot of Simone
45:43
in her hotel bed. So it's just a shot of legs
45:46
like up in a bed. It looks like something sexual
45:51
is about to happen in a hotel room with the lights
45:54
off and we can't see who it is. And for a split
45:57
second, I was like, oh my God, Regina and Melody.
46:01
KARA: So when Melody was like, I'll always be here,
46:04
I kind of thought like, well, if none of the
46:07
other men work. I'm here.
46:07
DANI: Yeah, that's also how
46:09
I interpreted it. The editors are diabolical
46:13
that the next shot is Simone in bed. And it's
46:16
like a little sexual in a way where I was like,
46:18
oh, but then Simone gets up and she texts Toby
46:21
being like, I'm here. Like it is supposed to
46:23
be sexual because she texts Toby and is like,
46:25
I'm all alone in this room. Like, are you going
46:28
to come down or what? And he's like, no.
46:28
KARA: He opens
46:31
his phone, which has a Guitar Face phone case
46:33
and a Guitar Face lock screen. And he opens it
46:37
up and says, nah.
46:37
DANI: Nah.
46:37
KARA: Daphne, I guess she's
46:40
not in bed. She's in the gym practicing her free
46:42
throws. And John comes in and he's like, OK,
46:45
bedtime. You have a big day tomorrow.
46:45
DANI: Yeah.
46:45
KARA: And
46:48
Daphne's like, I am so stressed out. This game
46:52
is not just for me. You don't get it. And John's
46:55
like, I do get it, actually, I was a baseball
46:58
player. And she's like, but you played for yourself.
47:00
I am playing for a community. And then this was
47:03
an interesting line. She said, Emmett and Melody's deafness defines them. But I'm just Daphne.
47:03
DANI: Okay, I was desperate
47:10
to know your thoughts about this.
47:10
KARA: I did not like
47:12
it.
47:12
DANI: She delivers this monologue about her deaf
47:14
identity, except it's really about her, like,
47:16
wishing that she didn't have one. She's like,
47:19
I'm just Daphne. Like, I'm not deaf, not hearing,
47:22
just Daphne.
47:22
KARA: And if I was hearing, I'd just be
47:25
hearing Daphne. It really seemed like she was
47:27
putting down Emmett and Melody in that line, where
47:31
she was like, their deafness defines them and
47:33
mine doesn't. And so what if your deafness defines
47:36
you? It's a part of your life. It's a part of
47:37
your identity. That's the cool thing about it.
47:40
DANI: I couldn't tell if her big moment later on with
47:43
the hearing aids is supposed to sort of symbolize
47:46
her accepting more so her deafness in that moment,
47:51
or if the writers did not make the connection.
47:54
If the hearing writers, like, were not trying
47:57
to make that an intentional point.
47:57
KARA: I was just,
48:01
when she turned it off, the hearing aids, it's
48:03
only because John says tune it out. And I was
48:05
just like, okay, she's tuning them out. Symbolically.
48:08
DANI: It felt powerful to me, though. Like, the way
48:10
they play it, too, in the show, it feels quite
48:12
powerful.
48:12
KARA: So, yeah, maybe because she shuts them
48:15
off and then she can't hear.
48:15
DANI: Yeah. And it's like
48:17
a fully silent scene.
48:17
KARA: I did not like that line.
48:21
I was like, what is your problem? What's wrong
48:23
with that?
48:23
DANI: Yeah. And then the way she ends the
48:25
monologue is she's like, I just want to be a
48:28
girl playing basketball. I hated that. I crawled
48:32
out of my skin. I was like, stop. That's so cringe.
48:36
KARA: She goes, I represent every deaf person. And
48:38
while I love being part of a small community,
48:40
everything I do means something. I wish I could
48:42
just be Daphne, a girl playing basketball.
48:42
DANI: God,
48:47
okay. It flopped for me. Cut to, it's the day
48:51
of the big game. John's interpreter is there.
48:54
Thank God. I don't know how he would have given
48:56
a little pep speech.
48:56
KARA: I know. I wrote, everyone
48:59
is white.
48:59
DANI: God.
48:59
KARA: Are there no white people? Are
49:03
there no people of color in Missouri?
49:03
DANI: Girl, I
49:06
don't know what's going on.
49:06
KARA: That was crazy. You're
49:08
also in LA.
49:08
DANI: Yeah, they're filming in LA.
49:08
KARA: I was
49:11
just looking at the crowd and the teams and I
49:13
was like, what is going on?
49:13
DANI: At least in this
49:15
shot. The team no longer looks 45.
49:15
KARA: Thank goodness.
49:19
DANI: Thank God for that.
49:19
KARA: Game starts.
49:19
DANI: I wrote, this
49:22
is a lot of basketball. I'm sure Kara's got it.
49:25
KARA: You got it. So Daphne passes the ball to Simone
49:28
out of habit.
49:28
DANI: Yeah, that's the first shot. Daphne
49:32
gets the ball and then she gives it to Simone
49:34
when she does that shot. Another member of the
49:38
Buckner team is like, glad we didn't get you kicked
49:40
out after all, and it is revealed, a girl we've
49:43
never seen before, like just some random girl.
49:45
KARA: Okay.
49:45
DANI: Is like basically reveals that it was probably
49:49
her that brought it up or at least just that
49:51
she knew about it, so that does further like cement
49:54
that Simone was not the person to do it. Not that
49:56
I think Simone deserves forgiveness for literally
49:58
everything else evil she's done, but I don't think
50:02
that this was her.
50:02
KARA: But then, the game continues.
50:05
Simone got the ball into a fast break and the
50:07
ball just keeps going back and forth. Daphne
50:09
is standing in the middle of the court in horror.
50:11
Girl, go play.
50:11
DANI: Yeah.
50:11
KARA: But then John calls timeout.
50:14
Kathryn and Patrick arrive at the game.
50:14
DANI: Yeah.
50:18
KARA: Because who's sitting there? Emmett and Regina.
50:18
DANI: Yeah,
50:20
Emmett and Regina are watching the game from the
50:22
stands. Patrick. Patrick shows up. With courtesy
50:26
of Kathryn.
50:26
KARA: Yes.
50:26
DANI: He says, there she is.
50:26
KARA: And
50:28
he comes bearing a sign that says, go Carlton.
50:31
DANI: Yeah.
50:31
KARA: That's sweet.
50:31
DANI: And he's clearly skipped
50:33
his Arkansas plans.
50:33
KARA: Yeah.
50:33
DANI: So he's trying, he's
50:36
really trying to make an effort. To be like,
50:38
I don't really understand what it's like to be
50:40
a parent, but I will support you and show up
50:42
at the game.
50:42
KARA: And Kathryn's like, he's cute.
50:44
DANI: I just feel like Regina was like, I don't like
50:46
that he's always showing up places. And then
50:48
he shows up a place that he shouldn't be.
50:48
KARA: That's
50:50
true.
50:50
DANI: Whatever. She seems happy about it, so.
50:53
KARA: And who else arrives but Cameron?
50:53
DANI: Yeah. And
50:56
he says, Emmett, let's talk right now.
50:56
DANI: Cameron,
51:00
this is not the time. All of these adults have
51:03
such terrible timing. In the middle of this game,
51:06
he even says, like, I love Carlton. I'm so excited
51:09
to cheer them on. Emmett's like, why don't we watch
51:11
the game then?
51:11
DANI: Yeah, and Cameron's like, no,
51:13
I have to tell you that I'm kicking you out of
51:14
my house first.
51:14
KARA: Yeah, I'm giving your mom full
51:17
custody.
51:17
DANI: Yeah. Poor Emmett. He really flips out.
51:21
KARA: He immediately goes, you don't want me.
51:21
DANI: Yeah.
51:23
And it's like a rejection wound is clearly opened.
51:26
He's like, what did I do? Was I too messy? Like,
51:28
does Olivia want me out? Like, what is it? I
51:31
feel, I really feel bad for him.
51:31
KARA: I know.
51:31
DANI: Like,
51:33
to feel this way about your parent. To feel like
51:35
they're like, they don't want you. That's so
51:37
sad.
51:37
KARA: It's awful. He really goes into a rage.
51:40
And Cameron's like, well, Bay said something
51:42
that really stuck with me. And Emmett is like,
51:44
Bay?
51:44
DANI: Yeah. Like, why the fuck?
51:44
KARA: So she got involved?
51:48
DANI: Cameron fucking sucks.
51:48
KARA: I know.
51:48
DANI: He's just like,
51:51
I just feel it would be better for everyone.
51:53
Better for me and your mom if we weren't fighting
51:55
over you. And it's like, obviously it would be
51:57
better for Emmett to be with Melody. But like
52:00
the way he's framing it is so like, I'm just
52:03
trying to make your mom happy. And then, yeah,
52:04
he has to drag Bay into it.
52:04
KARA: Which he did not
52:08
need to do.
52:08
DANI: No.
52:08
KARA: It's awful.
52:08
DANI: He could have just
52:10
said, I realized I've like been fighting your
52:13
mother to like win over her, but like what's best
52:16
for you probably is for you to be with her while
52:18
I get my shit together, because I'm going through
52:20
a midlife crisis.
52:20
KARA: Well, I think he was trying to
52:22
say that but then Emmett cut him off.
52:22
DANI: I don't, I
52:25
don't want to give Cameron the benefit of the
52:26
doubt. I don't think he would have been that eloquent.
52:28
KARA: Yeah that's true. It's time for the underdog scene.
52:31
DANI: Yeah.
52:31
KARA: The obvious underdog scene that we love
52:34
in the sports movie. Simone fouls Daphne.
52:34
DANI: Yeah,
52:37
in like the last 10 seconds of the game. Do you
52:39
think it was intentional? Like, that's so stupid
52:43
to do that. Do you think she was trying to be
52:45
like, I'm going to give you a foul so you can
52:47
win this game so that we'll be friends again?
52:49
KARA: I think that was my thinking, too.
52:49
DANI: Yeah.
52:49
KARA: Because
52:51
she tends to do stuff for her benefit. So while
52:56
Buckner wouldn't win, she would maybe get a friend
52:59
back.
52:59
DANI: Yeah. And she's like, I don't really care
53:01
about the game that much. I don't know.
53:01
KARA: Yeah.
53:04
So Daphne gets two free throws. Which is great
53:07
because the score is tied and it's all on her
53:09
shoulders. And she turns to John and he says,
53:12
tune it out. So she literally does tune it out.
53:15
DANI: Yeah, it's like a slo-mo scene. She's about
53:18
to make her basket and then she's like, wait
53:20
a second. And she goes and she turns her hearing
53:22
aids off. It's total silence in the scene.
53:22
KARA: I
53:25
used to do this too when I played. But then I
53:28
wouldn't make my free throws. [BOTH LAUGH].
53:28
DANI: This worked on
53:32
me.
53:32
KARA: It is kind of a tearjerker.
53:32
DANI: Yeah, it's a
53:34
tearjerking scene. LeClerc is acting her ass
53:37
off.
53:37
KARA: I know. She gets both baskets in and Carlton
53:41
wins. Yay!
53:41
DANI: Yay!
53:41
KARA: And it's now time for slo-mo
53:45
cheering time. Everyone is jumping and hugging
53:48
and Principal Rose is like, great job, guys!
53:51
And John is like, this is so awesome. I can't
53:55
wait for next year.
53:55
DANI: Yeah, John's like, next year,
53:57
we got to get more. We got to get buses. We got
53:59
to get the whole school down here. We got to
54:00
make fucking t-shirts.
54:00
KARA: Do you know who's not
54:03
in this episode? Travis.
54:03
DANI: He would have loved
54:05
to cheer on the Mustangs.
54:05
KARA: Right?
54:05
DANI: I guess he's
54:08
holding it down at the car wash.
54:08
KARA: Maybe.
54:08
DANI: Yeah,
54:11
fucking Principal Rose is like, we'll talk about
54:14
it on Monday.
54:14
KARA: Instead of just being like, yeah.
54:17
DANI: Yeah, just lie. Why are you trying to kill the
54:20
vibes?
54:20
KARA: And then she does because she's like,
54:22
they're still cutting the basketball team. This
54:25
win didn't magically make the school get money.
54:28
Sorry, girl.
54:28
DANI: And so, obviously, Daphne's sad.
54:31
I know that this is just conflict generated by
54:33
the writers' for stakes to be involved, but,
54:36
like, John can just fund the basketball program.
54:39
KARA: This is my biggest gripe with it, because they
54:42
held a fundraiser for Buckner, what, like, episode
54:45
six?
54:45
DANI: Yeah.
54:45
KARA: They never do for Carlton.
54:45
DANI: Well, also,
54:48
like, how much does the basketball program really
54:51
cost? John is not getting paid.
54:51
KARA: No.
54:51
DANI: Like, Melody
54:55
is, but she already works for the school.
54:55
KARA: Right,
54:58
she's a guidance counselor.
54:58
DANI: It must not be that
55:00
much of an added expense to pay her for the extra
55:02
hours. Like, what is the cost? Like, how much?
55:04
KARA: How much could a basketball cost?
55:04
DANI: I don't know,
55:07
$10,000?
55:07
KARA: Yeah, you're paying for uniforms, you're
55:10
paying for travel.
55:10
DANI: So what? I just am like, the
55:13
Kennishes could just write a check.
55:13
KARA: Literally.
55:16
They have the means, and they never do.
55:16
DANI: They
55:18
probably just gave Brizia more than that.
55:18
KARA: Yeah,
55:20
sell the car and give the money to Carlton.
55:20
DANI: I
55:22
don't even think they need to sell a car.
55:22
KARA: No,
55:24
I agree.
55:24
DANI: Literally just fucking, they wrote Daphne
55:27
a check for $5,000 just like that. Anyway, I
55:31
actually can't remember what happens with the
55:32
basketball program and if they do end up trying
55:34
to fund it some way, but I was like, these stakes
55:38
just feel fake to me.
55:38
KARA: John, if you really wanted
55:40
to continue coaching, yeah, you could just write
55:42
out a check to Carlton. Yeah. For like new basketballs.
55:45
DANI: Just make the car wash the sponsor of the team.
55:48
KARA: Easy. Done. Now Emmett is FaceTiming Bay. Yeah.
55:52
He's in like the hotel lobby or something. Crazy
55:55
if you check in into the hotel and you see this
55:57
Deaf man sobbing on his phone next to the fireplace.
56:01
DANI: Fucking signing into his phone and punching walls.
56:04
Jesus Christ.
56:04
KARA: Sobbing. And he's like, Bay, you
56:07
promised to stay out of it. And Bay, to her credit,
56:10
is defending her actions. And she was like, honey,
56:14
I was worried about you.
56:14
DANI: She's like, what am
56:16
I supposed to do when I see a drawer full
56:19
of dime bags in the place that you live with
56:22
your criminal record already? Like, this is concerning.
56:26
KARA: Yeah, and she was like, I had nightmares that
56:27
something bad would happen to you. This was a
56:29
little crazy.
56:29
DANI: She's definitely overreacting about
56:32
the weed. She's like, I was picturing rival drug
56:34
lords, like, showing up at your place. Like,
56:36
okay, I don't think any of Olivia's friends are.
56:39
KARA: No, I think they're all just, like, potheads.
56:42
DANI: Yeah.
56:42
KARA: Who work at the restaurant she works at.
56:44
DANI: Yeah, but Emmett is just like. Fuck you.
56:44
KARA: Fuck
56:48
you. My mom is brainwashing you. You guys are
56:51
treating me like a child.
56:51
DANI: Yeah. And then he punches.
56:54
KARA: Well, the phone freezes.
56:54
DANI: Oh, yeah.
56:54
KARA: Which that's
56:57
also how I feel when my phone freezes. But then
56:59
he punches the wall above the fireplace.
56:59
DANI: Yeah.
57:02
Like, really injures his hand and also just like,
57:05
Emmett, you're better than that. Don't be punching
57:08
walls. Except I don't think he is better than
57:09
that, actually.
57:09
KARA: It's such an ick to me when boys
57:11
punch walls.
57:11
DANI: It's even more of an ick because
57:13
he, like, hurts himself immediately and is like,
57:15
ow!
57:15
KARA: Daphne's in the basketball court at night.
57:18
I guess no one cleaned up the court. It's still
57:20
strewn with confetti. Very High School Musical.
57:23
DANI: Yeah, so true.
57:23
KARA: She just looks around and reminisces.
57:27
DANI: She's taking it in.
57:27
KARA: Simone walks to the ice machine
57:30
and she sees Emmett like sniffling, whimpering.
57:35
DANI: Yeah, he's like whimpering and crying and snotting
57:37
into the ice. That is not sanitary.
57:37
KARA: No, but he's
57:41
scooping ice to ice his injured wrist from punching
57:45
the wall.
57:45
DANI: Yes.
57:45
KARA: And Simone is like, you punched
57:48
the wall? I've been there. I just lost the game,
57:50
so.
57:50
DANI: She's like, I wanted to punch a wall after
57:52
losing that game today.
57:52
KARA: But. Instead, I'm going
57:55
to go back to my hotel room and drink vodka and
57:58
watch pay-per-view.
57:58
DANI: Yeah, she says, I have
58:01
a bottle of vodka in my room. I was planning
58:03
on having a few shots and watching pay-per-view.
58:06
KARA: That's such a sad thing to do alone.
58:06
DANI: Not only
58:09
that, but just that lot. Like, that's such a
58:11
16-year-old thing to say. I'm going to have
58:13
a few shots and watch some pay-per-view.
58:13
KARA: Yeah.
58:16
DANI: And then Emmett's like, okay, great. And he's
58:19
like, I got to go wrap my hand. And she's like.
58:22
I can wrap it. Would you like me to help you? [GROANS].
58:25
Meanwhile, Bay is laying on her bed, combat boots
58:29
laced up, laced up to the knee. And she's so
58:33
sad. And Toby walks in and he's like, I've got
58:36
your fender, like, figured out, whatever. And
58:38
she's like, thanks, but I'm not going to be needing
58:40
that. I don't think Emmett's ever going to talk
58:42
to me again. And then Toby says, you guys are
58:44
perfect together. It'll be fine. Toby. You are
58:47
lying. I know he's just being nice to comfort
58:51
her, but don't say that shit to Bay.
58:51
KARA: I wouldn't
58:53
say that to anyone.
58:53
DANI: I wouldn't say that to anyone,
58:55
but also not Bay and her boyfriend who've been
58:57
fighting every single episode since the first
58:59
episode they got together.
58:59
KARA: But he doesn't know
59:01
that.
59:01
DANI: No, Toby doesn't give a fuck. He just says,
59:04
you guys are perfect together.
59:04
KARA: Cut to next scene.
59:06
DANI: Next scene, Emmett is in bed.
59:06
KARA: Straddling Simone.
59:11
DANI: Straddling Simone.
59:11
KARA: Making out.
59:11
DANI: Foley takes his
59:14
shirt off. They are going to have sex. They're
59:17
going to have sex.
59:17
KARA: Credits roll.
59:17
DANI: Credits roll.
59:20
I felt just as scandalized watching that scene
59:23
today that I felt watching it when I was-
59:23
KARA: Like
59:27
14?
59:27
DANI: Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, I was like 12 years
59:31
old. I remember that scene playing. I was scandalized
59:34
then.
59:34
KARA: I was like, oh my god.
59:34
DANI: I felt scandalized
59:36
now. Emmett's such a cutie, but I personally
59:38
don't feel that I need to see him shirtless ever.
59:41
It felt too intimate. Like, I wanted to close
59:43
my eyes.
59:43
KARA: I think I was like, that's a minor.
59:45
I don't need to see that.
59:45
DANI: Well, the actor isn't,
59:48
but yeah, in the show, yeah, the character is.
59:51
But it was just like, I don't know. It felt weird.
59:54
KARA: I get it.
59:54
DANI: I don't know. I don't want to see him
59:56
shirtless. The only people on the show I want
59:58
to see shirtless are Angelo and - And Austin
1:00:00
Butler. And Wilke, yeah. I get it.
1:00:00
KARA: No Austin
1:00:02
Butler this episode either.
1:00:02
DANI: No, he didn't end
1:00:05
up coming to the game. That is actually kind
1:00:07
of crazy. I do feel that he would have wanted
1:00:09
to be there.
1:00:09
KARA: Right?
1:00:09
DANI: And maybe Daphne, after the
1:00:12
snafu in the last episode where she's trying
1:00:14
to teach him sign and he's just trying to make
1:00:16
out with her, maybe she was like, yeah, you're
1:00:18
definitely not coming to the game.
1:00:18
KARA: Maybe.
1:00:18
DANI: You
1:00:19
can't handle it. Or maybe he just, like, had
1:00:22
the same test that Toby had, so he couldn't.
1:00:24
I don't know.
1:00:24
KARA: No explanation for that.
1:00:24
DANI: No explanation
1:00:27
for that. No explanation for why Travis isn't
1:00:30
there. Because it seems like all of Carlton is
1:00:32
there.
1:00:32
KARA: Yeah, it seems like every Deaf person
1:00:34
from the U.S. came to this game.
1:00:34
DANI: I guess they
1:00:36
hadn't booked Travis as a series regular yet.
1:00:39
KARA: Maybe not.
1:00:39
DANI: They probably just booked him as a
1:00:40
guest star.
1:00:40
KARA: Yeah. So. He will be a series regular soon.
1:00:43
DANI: Yeah, we promise, guys.
1:00:43
KARA: I like this episode.
1:00:45
DANI: Me too. I mean, I don't like what happens in
1:00:48
this episode.
1:00:48
KARA: Me neither.
1:00:48
DANI: But it's such a fun
1:00:50
episode to watch. I'm just like, I'm still shocked.
1:00:54
KARA: Scandalized.
1:00:54
DANI: I just felt like sick to my stomach.
1:00:57
KARA: I know.
1:00:57
DANI: This whole episode.
1:00:57
KARA: This is the beginning
1:00:58
of that.
1:00:58
DANI: This is, yeah, this is the beginning
1:01:00
of the end for Emmett, really. His downfall.
1:01:02
And also just like, Bay. Poor Bay. Really going
1:01:05
through it.
1:01:05
KARA: I know. Really, the whole episode
1:01:08
was like, Bay and Daphne experiencing the craziest
1:01:12
amount of pressure.
1:01:12
DANI: Yeah.
1:01:12
KARA: Trying to do their
1:01:15
best.
1:01:15
DANI: I know.
1:01:15
KARA: And then they're both being punished
1:01:18
at the end for it.
1:01:18
DANI: Yeah. God. That's girlhood.
1:01:21
KARA: Literally. Thanks for listening, guys.
1:01:21
DANI: Thanks
1:01:23
for listening.
1:01:23
KARA: Also, if you would be so kind,
1:01:27
please leave a review on Spotify or Apple or
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wherever you're listening.
1:01:30
DANI: Oh, yeah, please.
1:01:31
KARA: A comment or review. That'd be really helpful.
1:01:34
I personally would love to end up getting sponsors.
1:01:37
In the future. So I could pay someone to transcribe
1:01:40
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1:01:43
just the two of us, guys.
1:01:43
DANI: I would love to pay
1:01:44
an editor. That would rock. Yeah, please leave
1:01:47
a review if you like the show. If you don't,
1:01:50
then don't leave a review. You could email us
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if you really need to talk about it.
1:01:52
KARA: Yeah, we
1:01:54
do have our email in our show notes.
1:01:54
DANI: Yeah.
1:01:54
KARA: Thanks
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for listening and we'll see you next week. Bye.