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Ep. 840: Polar Bear Jail and an Olympic Cheesemonger | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia the
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  Speaker 1: Meta podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven
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  Speaker 1: am Mountain Time. That's also eleven am for our friends
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  Speaker 1: in Poplar, Montana, on Thursday February twenty sixth, and we're
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  Speaker 1: live from Meat Eater Hqan Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer,
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  Speaker 1: joined today by Randall and Seth, as well as the
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  Speaker 1: Poplar Middle School from Fort Peck Reservation in northeast Montana.
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  Speaker 1: They are here to see how a media company. You
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  Speaker 1: can see them live. We're live our YouTube channel right now.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are really nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you guys should wave to our viewers. No, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so hi.
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  Speaker 1: We told them they couldn't cost live on air, so
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  Speaker 1: they got all their cussing out right before we went live,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll do some more later.
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  Speaker 2: It was shocking to be frank all right.
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we'll interview Sergeant Ian van Ness about
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  Speaker 1: Canada's Polar Bear Jail. After that, we have a hot
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  Speaker 1: tip off about PBC rod holders and finding lost arrows,
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  Speaker 1: followed by a review of the legacy of a white
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  Speaker 1: tail deer hunter for Meat Eater Movie Club. And finally
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  Speaker 1: we'll interview Emilia Delbero about winning gold at the Cheesemonger Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: But first we have a few programming notes. Our first
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  Speaker 1: video of meat Eaters twelve and twenty six is live
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  Speaker 1: on the Meat Eater YouTube channel right now. Giannis goes
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  Speaker 1: on his first baited bear hunt and encounters more bears
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  Speaker 1: than you can shake an arrow at. It's a one
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  Speaker 1: hour film that's presented by Moultrie and on x. You
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  Speaker 1: can see it on our YouTube channel right now. Phil,
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  Speaker 1: you have some details about another podcast coming out that
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  Speaker 1: it companies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Giannis is going to be doing a
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  Speaker 2: Q and A and fielding questions about that episode. So
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  Speaker 2: if you want to watch the episode and either shoot
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  Speaker 2: Yanni some d ms. I think we're pulling questions from
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  Speaker 2: the comment section of that video as well. So if
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  Speaker 2: you have any any burning questions for Yannis about about
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  Speaker 2: the hunt or his experiences there, get him in. That's
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  Speaker 2: going to be dropping next Tuesday, which is the the third,
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  Speaker 2: March third. Check that out March third. He's little camera,
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  Speaker 2: you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Cut it off the corner. He's leading, uh the tour
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  Speaker 3: for these students, so he's tucked himself where you can't
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  Speaker 3: see him, but he is here.
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  Speaker 1: And they're joining us for our second to last episode
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  Speaker 1: of Media Radio Live. Next week is the finale, and
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  Speaker 1: Seth won't be joining us.
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  Speaker 4: This is my last episode ever of Media Radio Live.
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  Speaker 4: My wife is going to have a kid next Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: Not very good planning on your part though to put
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  Speaker 1: it during the Meat Eater Radio.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't supposed to be, but one thing
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  Speaker 4: led to another. The little dude does not want to
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  Speaker 4: turn his head down, so that means we got to
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  Speaker 4: do a c section.
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  Speaker 2: Was not.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm hopeful that if everything goes well and we
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  Speaker 3: have a happy mother and happy child, uh, that we
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  Speaker 3: can do a live cut into the hospital, yes with
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  Speaker 3: Seth maybe for our very last, our very last report.
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  Speaker 2: Baby's actually coming out early in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good time, still make it in so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Seth, some cultures believe in reincarnation, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the Pope dies and then Cardi B has a
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  Speaker 1: baby and it's like, welcome back to Pope. The same
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  Speaker 1: day that Media Radio Live dies, your son is going.
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  Speaker 2: To be borne.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to call that baby little meat e
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  Speaker 1: to Radio Live for the rest of its life.
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  Speaker 3: You can do it a rough go.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Virgil, Virgil, Virgil is his name, Virgil.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to call it radio or Yes, it's exactly
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  Speaker 1: like that, And there's nothing.
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  Speaker 4: This is Spencer. He's gonna call you radio. He'll be
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  Speaker 4: the only person that calls you radio.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just let them. But we're all thinking it.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be an interesting child if it comes out, is
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  Speaker 1: Medy to Radio Live reincarnated.
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  Speaker 2: That would be weird.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of bad segments.
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  Speaker 1: For our finale, we have something very special planned. Randall,
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  Speaker 1: fill some folks in and what's going to happen next Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody here is eagerly awaiting the Meet
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  Speaker 3: Eater Radio Live Grand Finale Live extravaganza.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, with mixed emotions, of course.
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  Speaker 3: But I just want to give everybody a shout out.
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  Speaker 3: I alluded to this earlier heads up that we, uh,
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  Speaker 3: we will be going long next week. Uh, Spencer and
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  Speaker 3: Phil and I are aiming for about six plus hours
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  Speaker 3: in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not that's not a joke.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a joke. We have guest hosts lined up
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  Speaker 3: all of your favorite radio live co hosts will be
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  Speaker 3: joining u US during various segments. We're gonna try to
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  Speaker 3: hit every single segment we've ever done. We have literally
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  Speaker 3: special literally every single segment, So even the ones that
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  Speaker 3: we did just did once, we'll try to hit those
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  Speaker 3: messages from celebrities that will be playing on air.
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  Speaker 6: A music video, a music video Phil Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot to look forward to.
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  Speaker 2: And because it's six hours, we're not expecting everyone to
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  Speaker 2: sit down and watch the whole thing, though you you're
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  Speaker 2: more than welcome to and I encourage it. But it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those things you can kind of tune in
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  Speaker 2: for a while, take a break, come back later. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be best be viewed in parts, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and segments only.
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  Speaker 4: It won't work for the younger folks listening, But I
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  Speaker 4: think the only real point of comparison would be the
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Lewis telethon.
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm I'm I'm excited. There's still a
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  Speaker 3: but we're excited and I think there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 3: fun surprises along the way. And really it's a celebration
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  Speaker 3: of what we all share together as a community.
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  Speaker 1: One week, Yeah, there's going to be a movie club
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  Speaker 1: for that. When do we know what movie it'll be yet?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we'll be reviewing the film of Congo.
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  Speaker 1: How did you land on Congo?
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  Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite movies. It involves not necessarily hunting,
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  Speaker 3: but there's camping, there's outdoor adventure, there's wild animals, and
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of animals do get killed by lasers. So
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  Speaker 3: it's all the criteria based on a Michael Crichton novel
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  Speaker 3: that I read last year for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, did you love it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And it's actually the adaptation is remarkably faithful.
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  Speaker 1: I hear fantastic things about the Jurassic Park book. Have
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Is it very good?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? And and Congo came out the year after Jurassic Park,
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  Speaker 3: so it was like he was a heat Let's take
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  Speaker 3: the momentum of Jurassic Park and carry it into a
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  Speaker 3: now about satellite communications and technologies. This is made when
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  Speaker 3: that was just like a fanciful idea, and it plays
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  Speaker 3: a big role in the plot. So yeah, big ape guy,
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  Speaker 3: as we all know. And so I'm melding my two
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  Speaker 3: primary interests. Bad movies and great apes, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: review Congo. So I didn't look up where you can
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  Speaker 3: view it, but I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix. I
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  Speaker 3: own it, okay, so of course, yeah, just as I
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  Speaker 3: owned the novel. And yeah, that'll be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: That'll be a lot of fun. So we're gonna that
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  Speaker 3: one's just gonna be Yeah. I think probably the most
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  Speaker 1: February fifth is the finale again, probably a six plus
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we did it. Thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us on the line first is Sergeant Ian van Nest.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Manitoba conservation officer in the polar bear capital
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  Speaker 1: of the world. Ian, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, guys, super pumped to be here.
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  Speaker 1: We're excited to have you that.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: You live and work in a place that has as
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  Speaker 1: many humans as it does polar bears. There are about
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred of each in Churchill. What is your role there?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? So, I'm sergeant conservation officer up here in Churchill, Manitoba.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm in charge of the Polar Bear Alert program,
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  Speaker 5: one of a kind program in the world. It's basically
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  Speaker 5: an APEX predator management program, and what we do is
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  Speaker 5: we are solely there to make sure that people can
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  Speaker 5: coexist with these giant critters.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what is it about that area that creates such
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  Speaker 1: a dense population of polar bears?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Churchill again, poor bearer capital of the world. It's
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  Speaker 5: got to be you know, the habitat. You've got the
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  Speaker 5: ring seal out on the Hudson Bay there, that's the
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  Speaker 5: primary food staple for polar bears. And not to mention
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  Speaker 5: too that there's also the largest denning area in the world.
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  Speaker 5: What Past National Park just to the southeast of Churchill.
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  Speaker 5: So Churchill is essentially in a migratory path of these bears.
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  Speaker 5: And it's quite incredible because we have eight hundred plus
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  Speaker 5: people living right in their path. So thanks to our program,
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  Speaker 5: we're able to keep people safe and also the bear
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  Speaker 5: is safe and prevent any problems from happening.
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  Speaker 1: How common are maullings, Well.
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  Speaker 5: Again, thanks to that polar Bear Alert program, not very
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  Speaker 5: very common, like you mentioned there, Like back in twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 5: we did have a malling that was our last malling.
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  Speaker 5: So quite proud to say that due to our program
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  Speaker 5: we've been able to stop and prevent a lot of
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  Speaker 5: these tragedies from happening.
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain what the polar bear alert program is?
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  Speaker 1: How does that tell people that they need to be
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  Speaker 1: on alert for a polar bear.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an APEX predator co management program where the
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  Speaker 5: province will identify So the province, i say, is of Manitoba.
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  Speaker 5: I'm an employee of Manitoba. So basically what we're doing
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  Speaker 5: is we're identifying any bears that are potentially a problem,
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  Speaker 5: whether they're food conditioned or that they're aggressive in any way,
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  Speaker 5: and we will do proactive measures like setting up bear
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  Speaker 5: traps and preventing some of these bears from hanging around.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the bears that are hanging around town that
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  Speaker 5: are essentially problematic because then they become comfortable around humans
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  Speaker 5: and we all know wildlife right there unpredictable. So anytime
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  Speaker 5: you get these dangerous critters hanging around town, it's usually
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  Speaker 5: a recipe for a dangerous situation. So we'll either utilize
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  Speaker 5: proactive things like our bear traps. We might have to
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  Speaker 5: dart these bears using wildlife immobilization tactics, whether we're darting
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  Speaker 5: them from helicopters or from the ground. Other things we'll
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  Speaker 5: be doing is just simply what we do is hazing tactics,
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  Speaker 5: and hazing is essentially just using a loud sound and
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  Speaker 5: making it uncomfortable or unpleasant for that bear and letting
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  Speaker 5: that bear know that it's not okay to hang out
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  Speaker 5: in town. So ninety nine percent of the time this
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  Speaker 5: is what we're doing. We're utilizing a shotgun. We're going
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  Speaker 5: to be firing cracker shells towards the bear and steering
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  Speaker 5: them in a specific direction to get them out of
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  Speaker 5: town and a way.
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  Speaker 1: What's the closest that you've come to being attacked.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, there's been lots of times. I gotta think of one.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a thrilling job. And after a while
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  Speaker 5: you develop a comfort with the animals and that no
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  Speaker 5: other person has ever experienced until you do this job.
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  Speaker 5: So my comfort level with these creatures are a lot
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  Speaker 5: different than the average person. But there has been a
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  Speaker 5: few times. Whoa, and you know what, you gotta be
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  Speaker 5: a little more careful there, Like you're only fifteen feet
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  Speaker 5: away from this thing and it's given you the side eye,
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  Speaker 5: and once you see the whites of those eyeballs. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: holy smokes, Okay, a little close, but I swear those
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  Speaker 5: bears they can read you and they feel your energy,
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  Speaker 5: and they also know that you've got something that's a
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  Speaker 5: long stick called the booms stick, and they know that
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  Speaker 5: that thing might hurt them. So it's like they're smart
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  Speaker 5: enough to know. Hey. So, I mean, I've been fifteen
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  Speaker 5: feet away from these things and giving me the side eye.
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  Speaker 5: And we have our protocols where we've got somebody with
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  Speaker 5: lethal force in case we need to use it. But
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  Speaker 5: most of the time I've walked up ten to fifteen
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  Speaker 5: feet up to a bear like that eight hundred pounds
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  Speaker 5: on thousand pounds mail and give it a dart so
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  Speaker 5: we can make it go to sleep. And that's the
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  Speaker 5: key part is getting it safely down get to sleep
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  Speaker 5: so we can get it in the facility.
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  Speaker 1: And what kind of boomstick do you carry for the
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  Speaker 1: protection against these polar bears?
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  Speaker 5: Great question, you know, I got a bunch. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I'm using a twelve gauge with slugs, mostly because I
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  Speaker 5: can also fire my cracker sholl, which is a non
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  Speaker 5: lethal ammunition, but also I can quickly switch to a
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  Speaker 5: slug in case I need to use that. The other
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  Speaker 5: thing we just recently got is a Daniel Defense d
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  Speaker 5: D five and it's in that three to zero eight
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  Speaker 5: cartridge three twenty round magazine so red dot site And
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  Speaker 5: know what, I think that is a very accurate and
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  Speaker 5: incredible weapon to use for defense against these creatures. So
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  Speaker 5: I've got that in my arsenal as well as a
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  Speaker 5: nine millimeter on my side, so that's also comforting to
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  Speaker 5: know in case one of them's on top of me
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  Speaker 5: or something, I gotta I gotta get in close quarters
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  Speaker 5: with this thing.
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  Speaker 1: So loaded to the t. I mean you said that
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  Speaker 1: they bet they've been fifteen feet from you in those situations.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever drawn a gun ready to use lethal force?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Lots. I mean if I'm in that close, I'm
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  Speaker 5: drawn and ready with lethal force, and you know what,
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  Speaker 5: knock on wood. I have never had to use use
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  Speaker 5: it and kill a bear situation like that. So again,
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  Speaker 5: it's a lot of reading the animal and they're smart
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  Speaker 5: and they can feel your energy. So staying calm is
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  Speaker 5: I think a big part of it too.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now, if the polar bears aren't running around biting
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  Speaker 1: people all the time, tell us what kind of problems
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  Speaker 1: they do create.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty rare for them to bite people,
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  Speaker 5: but they can't write that risk is there, and it's
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  Speaker 5: a real risk and they're very dangerous and we're in
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  Speaker 5: their territory. So basically a lot of what we're doing
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  Speaker 5: is preventing that situation from happening, and the key thing
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  Speaker 5: of preventing that is stopping habituation. We have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of restaurants in town. People are careless with their garbage,
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  Speaker 5: so a lot of the inexperienced bears that are not
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  Speaker 5: great at their jaws on some garbage. So we're out
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  Speaker 5: doing proactive measures, such is removing those attractants and trying
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  Speaker 5: to keep them away from that because as soon as
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  Speaker 5: they get that taste of garbage, they ain't leaving and
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna hang around there and tell the sea ice
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  Speaker 5: forums again they go back to hunting seals. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: we got to haze them out of there. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 5: might have to shoot them with a rubber slug if
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  Speaker 5: the loud noise ain't working, and just getting them moving
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  Speaker 5: along and stop that that that food conditioning from happening.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: So go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, no, I was just
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: gonna say that, like, they're the problems that mainly arises
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: the food conditioning, getting into human food sources, and because
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: once they get that taste of human food source, they're
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: not gonna leave. And then that's when we have to intervene.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: There will be a bear that's hanging out for a
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: week in town, and you know, someone will open up
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: their doorstep and walk out their porch and there's a
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: thousand pounds poor bear sitting beside them. Well, that's happened
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: many times. And I've got videos sent to me of
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: this happening, and and and so we respond right way.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: We got an emergency line in town, so I got
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: that phone beside my bed and that they can call it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And it wakes me up, and I'm out the door
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: with my shotgun and I'm going to scare that thing away.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: But it's a lot of proactive. The problems that they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: they're getting into is that basically getting into human sources
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: of food.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: How often are you getting those calls in the middle
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: of the night that there's a polar bear too close?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you know in bear season which is starting
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: now from August till December, so when there's no ice
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: on the Hudson Bay. Those bears are all on land,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: and that's when they're causing problems or the potential for
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: them to cause problems. Once that ice is formed. They
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: don't care about our town. They don't care about Churchill
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: or being on land or humans. All they care about
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: is seals. So during the bear season August to December,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: basically what's happening is they're getting hungry and I need
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: to find some food. So then we're going to be
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: getting calls, five ten calls a night, and it's like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: you're not sleep You're not sleeping, so you're up all night.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: My phone beside my bag, goal deal, the call go home,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: an our phone goes again. And yeah, so I don't
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: sleep in bear season.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And if there is a problematic bear, you guys sometimes
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: send that bear to the Polar Bear Jail. Tell us
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: about that facility.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the poor bar holding facility. Again, it's a world
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: renowned there's no other place like it in the world.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: So there's twenty eight holding cells in there, and and
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: so only bears that are problematic end up in there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I'd say ninety nine bears were able to get through
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: town and get them away, and they don't come back.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: It's that one percent that they're just causing problems and
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: they're not going away. So then I got to go
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: and dart them, put them to sleep, and then we'll
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: transport them, put them in a trap, or or we
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: could just use it. We have what's called a bear board.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: It's basically a stretcher for a poor bear, and you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: the bear is sleeping, goes on the stretcher back of
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: my truck, and I bring them inside the facility and
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: they stay there for thirty days. So it's kind of
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: marries a little bit of de terrence with separating them
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: from people so that they don't hurt people. And thirty
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: days they don't get fed because again we don't want
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: them to introduce them to human human food sources. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: they're already in a state of hibernation and their bodies
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: adapted to living off fat off their food stores when
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: they were hunting seal all winter. So basically they're in
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: there and they're like, oh, this sucks. You know, I'm
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: not doing this again. I'm never coming back here again.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Say a bear is thrown in jail for a month,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: walk us through what happens from the time they're locked
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: up to the time they're set free.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, bears hanging around town. It's been there for
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: a week. But geez, we can't get this thing. We
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: can't scare it away. So I end up darting it
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of times. I got to use a helicopter
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: to see get them. So you're darting out a helicopter.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: You get them down, and then we transport them on
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: the stretcher, get them inside. They go inside an individual cell.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: But before we do that, we give them a number,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: so they have a number that identifies them as an individual.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: So then I can go back at a database and like, oh, yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I dealt with this one before, and so then it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: a repeat offender, right, And so this is how we
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: better manage these bears. And so yeah, we get them
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: a lip tattoo, so there's going to be a corresponding
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: number on their lip and their ear they get a tag.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: And so this way, when they're I'm in the field again,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I got deal with the same bear, I can easily
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: identify them again. And yes, I do have a refender list.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: It's about twenty bears long. And this is the way
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: we can tell if they're just they have it in
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: their behavior. And again a lot of times these bears
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: are like humans. Some of them are just bad actors,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: and they just wind up in this facility over and
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: over again. It's true, and I just can't believe it sometimes.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: But anyways, Yeah, it's so thirty days, they're not getting
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: any food, they do get water. They stay in there,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: and then we're going to put them down again to sleep.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: After their thirty days, we're gonna load them on the stretcher,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: get them and make sure that we've got all the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: data off them that we need to. Bears will also
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: be weighed so we know how much weight they lost
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: inside the facility. And because they do lose about to
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: believe it or not, three to four pounds a day.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: And actually this is kind of similar in the wild
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: they do as well.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: It must be nice.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah there, it's quite amazing. Yeah, I wish I could
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: lose that much weight. But anyways, they are an incredible
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: speedie and it's just amazing how they've adapted to live.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Here's a dumb question. How pissed are they when they're
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: locked up?
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Oh so mad? Yeah, they like they'll pound those bars.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: It's incredible their strength, Like they'll bow the bars, Like
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: those bars are just solid steel and concrete cylinder block cells.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: So we've never had one escape other than we did
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: actually have a little cub escape one time, but it
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: got through the trough where we feed them or where
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: we give them water. Sorry, it's so part of me
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: that we don't feed them, but we give them water,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: and they got through that trough. So now we've got
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: a special insert that goes in there so that the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: little cubs can't squeeze through the trough. So yeah, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: it's in a very powerful they hiss at. Yeah, they
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: they give you the side eye. They got a really
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: mean deep growl. There's a like it's pretty eerie sounding.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: It's good and you can yeah, it's you can hear it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: There's nothing else like it, Like, I've never experienced thing
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: else like that. But yeah, incredible.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: What's the most bears you've ever had locked up at once?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You said you have twenty eight holding facilities. Do you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: ever get to max capacity?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, we have done that and back back in back
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: in the day when it first started in the nineteen eighties,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: they feel that that's those cells over and over again.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: It was a rotating door, revolving door, Now I've put
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: twenty in a season, so a fraction of that. We're
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: not handling them as much anymore. And that's because we've
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: changed our tactics. We don't want to have to handle
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: them unless we absolutely have to. So, yeah, back in
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: the eighties, they put a lot of bears through there.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Now in twenty twenty six, we're a little more selective
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: on the bears we put in there. And on average,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: i'd see we probably put twenty per year in there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All right, So walk us through the process of what
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: happens when you go to let them go.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so once we get all the data off them, weight,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: their length, their girth, make sure we got their numbers,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: what male female, are they pregnant, stuff like that. You
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: gotta watch, you gotta pay attention to stuff like that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Then we're gonna we're gonna put them in a cargo
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: net and basically helicopter and sling them out to their
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: habitat to the north. We put them to the north
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: because these bears are naturally migrating from east to west
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: and then north again, so we want to follow their
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: natural migration. And essentially, yeah, we just throw we get
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: them in the in the cargo nets and put them
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: in the in a remote area to the north, away
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: from people. That's essentially all it is.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And if folks want to come visit Churchill, the polar
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: bear capital of the world, what advice do you have
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Well, come check out the poor Bear Holding Facility because
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: there's no other place like it in the world. You
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: might even be able to hear the loud growl if
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: you put if you put your ear close to the
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: door and listen, and and ask some questions about Poor
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Bear Alert program. Google it, check it out. Not a
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: lot of people actually know about it, and it's it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: a success story. It's protecting humans and protecting bears, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: and come to Churchill and just it's the poor bear
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: capital of the world. There's no other place where you
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: can easily access basically while they viewing areas where it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: very likely you're going to see a poor bear. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: book through a guide, though a licensed guide is your
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: way to go. There are restrictions on how to view bears,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: and so the guides all know how to do that,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: and you don't because you don't want to get yourself
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: in a bad situation. I've seen people five feet away
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: from these things. They think it's the zoo, and it's
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: just it's so incredible how fast they can move, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: people just sometimes don't realize they get caught in a
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: moment like all this magnificent creature and yet they're only
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: five to ten feet away from the thing. It's just
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: it's it's not ideal. But again, go through a guide
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: and they'll keep you safe.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So have you gotten any emergency calls while doing this interview?
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: No? So Luckily right now those bears are out on
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: the sea ice and there they're going to be there
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: till probably June July eight and ring seal that's their
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: primary diet, and so I get to rest right now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, good for you, Thanks for joining us, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: stay safe out there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks guys, been a pleasure.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like thanks, Ian.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I noticed you boys perk up when he talked about
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: what he carries for protection. Did anything surprise you about
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: what he has on him?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Oh? I mean shotgun.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's pretty run of the mill protection
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: weapon for bears, but the Daniel defense, Yeah, did that
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: makes sense?
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I mean I'd assume they're just trying to put one
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: in the central nervous system. So probably a bullet.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Just be accurate.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Bullet. We get Randall a pack of smokes from Steve.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Popular Middle school brought gifts to the met Beater office.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: One of them was tobacco.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: It's a traditional it's a traditional gifting. Uh, you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: culture of gifting, and so tobacco is one of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: gifts and gifted he just gifted me a hard pack
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: of Marlborough Smooth Originals.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I thought Steve said.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: There were yeah, gold, it's a gold pack, but these,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, don't don't do that. Don't smoke cigarettes.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: We could bust him out when baby Radio was born.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's how we will celebrate.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that guy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: That was one of the best incers, throwing heat all
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: the way to the end with his guest recruitment and
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: uh yeah, man, we're probably the only Americans that guy's
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: going to talk to for the next year that won't
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: mention the hockey gain.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry that that the chat has been on it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully he doesn't look back and feel bad
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: about that silver medal because the chat was really poking him.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Man, that guy was great. That was a great spencer.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: That that just who would have thought bear prison, Bear
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: prison for thirty days.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I want to go twenty reoffenders.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: They've been doing this since the eighties, so that's that's
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It's like that successful at keeping these bears
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: out of the way of humans.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: That was great. Gosh all right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Our next segment is Hot tip Off.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: That's saltyt that's salty.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: head with competing pieces of advice and after we hear
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter. This week
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's Dalton Bicard versus Marshall Loftis, and they're competing for
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars Meat Eater store gift card. Take
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it away, Phil Marshall Loftis.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: Hey guys, Marshall here and I have an extremely simple
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: tip for finding your arrows. I know most of your
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: listeners probably don't actually ever miss, but I do, so
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: I had to come up with a creative solution. Number one,
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: I use i viz wrap some veins. Nothing new there.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: But number two, I utilize a uv Or black light flashlight.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: These are like ten fifteen bucks on Amazon, So you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: anytime you shoot, don't know where your arrow goes, it
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: goes into something like this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: This is kind of standard. What you see.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Here's one of my arrows.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: You know, it gets buried in the grass, it gets
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: buried in the leaves. It's very difficult to find. But
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: I actually utilize this to find the arrows in the dark.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: So I'm back at that same area, but in the
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: dark here obviously, I have my black.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Light obviously, and I'm gonna walk up to.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: That general area of where the arrow is.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: And we'll see if it'll show up on here.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Boom, there you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Can see it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's wild, looks like a paid light out there
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: in the dark.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: This makes finding your arrows a thousand times easier and
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: it saves you a lot of money on having to
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: buy new arrows.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: At Hello, meat eater, I got a hot tip here
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: for you, and a great project to do if you
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: with your kids, if you've got them. This is my
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: homemade jaw jacker, as my buddy likes to call it
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: the ghetto jacker. I just built this at a inch
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: and a half TVC pipe. You could build it with
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: a block of wood and a pipe angled in the
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: back of it to hold the rod. The main thing
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: is this trigger mechanism which you just got to do
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: a hook and I built this out of a paint
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: can handle. You could use the coat hanger or whatever
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: you've really got laying around. I use a zip tie
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: here to connect it to the rod. Ran it through
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: an islet and you just run your line up through
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: the hook end of it. My fish grabs. It works
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: pretty good, sets up nice. Can fit a couple of
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: in a bucket. I keep these feet where they can
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: just come off, so you can put a couple in
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: a bucket. And Shirley beats the sixty dollars price tag.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: All right, those are our two hot tips. The chat
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: is going to decide who the winner is of the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars Meat Eater store gift card. Phil is
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: going to give you a couple of minutes to vote.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: All right, Seth, which one do you like? Dalton's hot
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: tip about the PVC jaw jacker or Marshals of the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: UV light aerowfinder.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who pixies.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I don't want to call anyone out, but the the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: era one has been has been done before.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: On this show, on this show. Oh no, Well, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: just got a better memory than me because I have
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: no recollect I did not know.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Sorry, you began that by saying you don't mean to
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: call anybody out.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, which one do you like better? Was
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: that felt? Was that you phil? No? No, okay, sorry,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I don't mean, but I should have.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Let's just go to the.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Ice fishing one for me. The homemade jawjacker. Jawn jackers
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: aren't are not. They're not cheap.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Sixty dollars he said.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the homemade stuff is fantastic. And I didn't
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: mention the or I did mention. I didn't notice he
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: had Buddy Ja Siemens in the background on the television.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I wondered if it was, but I couldn't identify just
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: from that quick shot. But Seth has his ice fishing
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: eyes on.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew it was Jay. I like that one,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Seth is voting for the PVC jaw jacker Randall. What
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: do you think the UV light arrow finder from Marshall
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: or the jaw jacker from Dalton?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I mean to be these two tips, embody. Some of
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the finest traditions of tipping one is just getting some
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: device that's useful for one thing and applying it to another.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: As we remember from the air compressor blowing out the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: brains of the deer skull, and the other is just
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: going to Ace hardware and buying a bunch of shit
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: and building your own like little device. So I appreciate
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: both of them in different ways. But man, I do
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: like that that homemade. I mean anytime you can just
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: make a mess of PVC. I was a big potato
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: cannon kid. We made a battery gun one time that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: just shot double A batteries and we were punching holes
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: in plywood with it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, we moved on.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: From the hair spray to dry ice and water.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We should do that for a meat eater video. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: don't know how it applies to what this company does,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Randall making a potato cannon.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: The nice thing about the hairspray, though, is if you
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: want to launch an indiary round of some sort, you
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: know you have that ignition source from the hair spray.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm going to vote for the jaw jacker.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's two votes for the job.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: That was a long winded answer.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Both of these again, like mini hot tips, it's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: about how to save some money. One is you're going
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to recover more errors than the other is. You don't
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: have to buy a sixty dollars jaw jacks. Yes, I'm
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: going to vote. Vote for the u v light arrowfinder.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: You should go watch this video on our podcast YouTube
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: channel because that thing lit up like somebody turned on
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a light switch on the back of that arrow is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: so easy to find. Here's the other thing. I love
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: having a UV light with me when I go camping.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: There's like, I don't know, probably twenty things that just
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: stay in my camping kit that no matter what kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of camping I'm doing, they're coming with me. One of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: them is a UV light that I look for UV
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I look for rocks that show up under UV light.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So if you've got that with you turn that on
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: at night, you can recover some very cool rocks. You'll
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: find other uses for that UV light. It's only like
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: fifteen bucks from Amazon besides just recovering arrows.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's making me think I should attach arrow fletchings
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to my car keys and my earbuds.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: That'd be good. Phil. What does the chat think.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It's been a pretty decisive lead this entire time, So
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and end the poll and with
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: sixty four percent of the vote. Winner is Marshall with
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the black lie.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Oh all right, Oh he didn't win the last time,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: so he won this time.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: That's a real dark horse, get it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Marshall did one, Randall, he gets a one hundred dollars
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: media to gift card next week for the finale. We
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: are just going to empty the clip for all of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the hot tips that we have left.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, all.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: what's the chat apt to say?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Let's see here, this is from Nate, He says, Randall,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: are you going turkey hunting this spring? Or was last
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: year a one and done and you're back to bears forever?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: No, I'd like to I enjoy eating wild turkeys, so
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I'd like to shoot another turkey or two. It's just
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: a just a question of getting on someone's dance card.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Max Barta is a busy guy, busy guy in the spring.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I was talking to col last night and we were
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: discussing a little turkey family camp. Family turkey camp, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: should say, so that that's in the cards as well.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: But definitely going to go ahead and look for some bruins.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I already have one of those trips on my calendar.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: The question for Seth from Coda, what's your go to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: razor for a clean shade? I too have a mustache,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: but find it hard to keep up with a clean cut.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Like you razors give me razor burn on my neck
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and jawline.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Well, you need the jawline first. That's my problem with
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: with trimming facial hairs. I don't have anything like what
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Seth has there.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I the ones I buy from the store are often different.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I look at price more than Yeah, I look at
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: price more than the actual razor itself. A few blades
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: is good, although I recently was given one of those
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: proof raisors. It's made in Belgrade. It's like a machined
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: all machined aluminum razor, has that one blade replaceable.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: It's it works great.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a razor that you'll just
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: have for the rest of your life.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, So, and then an aftershave or something like that. Now,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: as long as we're leaning into this.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: No, I don't use an aftershave.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I use the shaving cream I use is like a
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: they call it like a It's it's like one of
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: those healthy kinds.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: It's not edge best kept mustache in the company. What
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: else you got? Phil?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Question for King Randamal himself, if he only had to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: choose one of the rest of his life, would it
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: be dogs or brots?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I think I know, man, it's probably dogs.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Just what's.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Just for the emotional factor. I just don't give the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: same feelings for eating abroad at a ball game. But
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I do find brots. I find myself cooking brots more
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: at home, and I feel like it's a more versatile
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: tube meat. But yeah, I can't make a cheese coney
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: with a brod.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Phil. Let's do a couple more and then after that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I think we put movie Club at the end of
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the show because our next guest is eating. So we'll
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: do that last year.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: It's a great idea.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Who knows how long that'll take. Any of the crew
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: from from Valancourt Hopeful for a sheep or goat tag
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: this year? Do you guys put in for yes?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Every year?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Ye?
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Not hopeful though hopeful in putting in her two different things.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll I probably will have a sheep tag,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: just an unlimited sheep tag.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, they changing that this year?
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I just whatever.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, Randall's going to be the sheep hunter.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see my calendar's lining so
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: that I might be able to get out there for
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: the unit that I want to get out there.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Let's see one more, Phil, Sure, I'm going to be
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: selfish with this one. Phil, how's cast and chill treating you?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: That was that low five fishing game that I've been
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I have it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: So I just got myself a better monitor for my
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the room where I stream and I stream. But tomorrow,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: tomorrow is a big day because there Nintendo is in
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: game Freak are releasing Pokemon fire Red Leaf creen for
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the Nintendo Switch. I'll been picking that up. But more
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: importantly for my streaming purposes, Resident Evil nine comes out tomorrow.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I'm a big fat baby, and so I'm thinking about
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and here's the scariest one so far. I'm thinking about
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: streaming it. If you guys want to watch that, I.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Do so gun taking a sick day too.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: When did the original Resident Evil come out? Oh like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight or something. Did you play that one? No?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I've only been starting. I've been dipping my
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: toe into horror stuff over the last couple of years.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: But I've over the last year, I've played Resident Evil two, four, seven,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm almost done with eight, and I've been really
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: enjoying them. The writing is is god awful. The plot
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: makes no sense, but that's kind of part of the charm.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So you don't like the films, then I assume.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: The films are are the films are bad? Like It's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: like if you took the dialogue and plot from the
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Games where it's kind of camping and fun, and you
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: put it into a movie format, it just it doesn't translate.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: So how do I tune into this? Phil taylored Life.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh god, that's a great that's a great question.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I'll put I don't think this is self promotion because
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I make no money off of this. In fact, I
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: think I lose money with the equipment that I've bought.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: But I'll put my I'll put my YouTube handle up
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: here because it's stupid and nonsensical. I'll spill it out here.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: This is a good program.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe Phil will tell us on his Instagram story how
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: we can watch.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: So that's my YouTube handle and my Twitch handle Phil
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: a Buster Sword Phil. It's my name Philip Buster with
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: a pH, because that's what people call me in high school.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Buster Sword, as we all know, is the iconic sword
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that Cloud Strife wields in Final Fantasy seven. So it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: a portmanteau of kinds.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sure our next guest head is spinning good. Still,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: we've gone from shaving products to golden sheep tags to
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: phil buster sor.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: So you were doing that this Friday or Saturday, so
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: tune in for you can watch me Pema pants. You
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: never know what you'll get here.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, let's go to our last interview. Joining us on
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the line next is Amelia Delbero, who won the gold
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: medal at the twenty twenty five cheese Monger Olympics. She's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: here to educate us on pairing cheeses with wild game. Amelia,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: Hey, thanks so much for having me on the show.
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: Super stoked to be here in chat Cheese great.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: First thing, what are the Cheesemonger Olympics.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: I'm happy to explain. So the Mondel de Fromage, which
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: is the Cheesemonger Olympics. It happens every two years in
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: France and champion cheesemongers from all over the world compete
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: against each other in this like grueling eight hour day
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: of cheesemonger challenges with the goal of being crowned the
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: world's best cheesemonger for that year. So the challenges span
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: everything from general knowledge written tests to blind tasting pairing challenges.
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: Cheese sculpture, a one square meter themed, absolutely massive cheese
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: display made with like one hundred mystery cheeses that they
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: just put down in crates behind you. So it was
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: obviously very difficult, but it is also as much about
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: like stamina and time management as it was about cheese
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: knowledge and longer skill and technique.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to be there. What's the most difficult
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: part of the competition?
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: I would say that all of the challenges that were
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: equally difficult in terms of execution and preparation. But for
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: me personally, truthfully, the hardest part of the entire experience
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: was just finding the guts to show up. I have
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: like crazy imposter syndrome, so I actually did a lot
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: of work with my therapist in the months leading up
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: to the competition, so I helped manage that so that
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: I could like show up, be fully present and just
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: do my best. And I actually think that aspect of
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: the preparation is super important to talk about openly because
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: I know a lot of people struggle with this.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And then you went there and won the gold medal.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Congratulations for that. Tell us about your background? How does
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: one become such an accomplished cheese monger.
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: So I actually have a degree in Italian. I went
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: to college for Italian studies, and after that I was
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: working a kind of a corporate job just managing a
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: cooking school. It was a cooking school and educational space,
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: so I was seeing a lot of these classes and
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: events that were happening, everything from like obviously cheese tastings
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: to butchering demonstrations to pizza making, pasta making dinners, things
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: like that. So there's a lot of really cool stuff
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: that I was experiencing for the first time. And then
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: after a couple of years of managing that particular space,
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: I decided I wanted to kind of make a switch
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: and learn a craft. Hope, like probably one of the
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: things that I had witnessed in the school. And I
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: also had a little bit of a like a run
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: in let's call it with an animal rights group and
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: that kind of changed the trajectory of my career. So
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: I decided I really wanted to learn butchery. That's what
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: I was going to focus on. But at the time
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: I was like a little twenty three year old girl
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: with no knife skills, So nobody was going to hire
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: me for a butcher job, obviously, so I was advised
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: to take a job at a cheese counter for a
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: few months, learn how to handle knives, and then try
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: to make that transfer. Obviously, I ended up loving cheese
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: so much that it won and I pursued the career
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: in cheese quite successfully. I might add, but I did
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: actually stay at the counter part time while I was
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: doing a butcher apprenticeship for a while. It ended up
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: being a really fun combination because I was managing a
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: cheese counter in Brooklyn during the pandemic and there was
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: a nose to tail butcher in the same grocery store.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: So during the pandemic, I was able to kind of
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: like pop over there when they needed some help and
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: like make sausages, trim pork chops, that kind of thing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: So since then I have been the cheese manager and
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: buyer of that grocery store. I'm currently the sales and
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: marketing manager for Formaticum. We are the country's premier importer
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: of cheese, paper, packaging tools, all the professional quality items
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: that you need to run a cheese department. And that
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: is a really cool role that allows me to do
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: a lot of travel and educate both cheesemongers and consumers
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: alike about how to properly take care of cheese and
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: taste cheese and just you know, sharing the love and
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: encouraging enthusiasm for cheese.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, you were the first American to win gold at
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the Cheesemonger Olympics. Congrats for that. There were fourteen countries
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: represented at last year's competition. What kind of reputation does
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: America have when it comes to cheeses and cheesemongers?
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: So obviously the United States does not have a great
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: reputation globally when it comes to cheese, and like all
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: other food and.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Some American cheese.
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: I actually I'm going to talk about that, but some
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: of that is completely justified. But we actually do have
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: a pretty thriving cheese culture here pun intended. There is
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: a lot of misconception about the term American cheese and
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: what that means. And when you say that, most people
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: think of the like plastic eat orange slices, which totally
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: do have their time and place. But when I think
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: of American cheese, I think about all of the amazing
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: cheese producers that we have all across the country, in
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: every state, who are making absolutely incredible cheese every single day.
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: They're winning awards, they are focusing on regenerative agriculture, They're
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: giving back to their communities, and I like to say,
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: good American cheese is everywhere for those with eyes to see.
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: So being able to show up at this competition and
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: represent the United States in my own way, and to
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: be able to prove on the world stage that American
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: cheese mongers are skilled and talented and creative was just amazing.
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: And especially to be surrounded by so many other wonderfully
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: talented cheesemongers, just being inspired by them and being able
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: to learn from them. We left France with a lot
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: of new friends. I am happy to.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Say that's great. Our audience eats a lot of wild games,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: so we want your advice on how to pair cheeses
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: with different wild food. Let's start with medison. Please give
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: us some recommendations on what cheese is pair well with
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: dear meat.
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: First of all, I love venison, but with these types
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: of unconventional pairings, let's say, instead of focusing on like
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: the pairing exclusively, I try to think about, like who
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: would be eating these things and how they would be prepared,
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: and like what those people might have access to. So
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: in the cheese industry we have this this saying that's
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: what grows together goes together, and that basically means that
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: products from the same region will likely be a good pairing.
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: So for venison, I'm thinking like like braised venison, roasted meat, stew,
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: ragou things that would likely be found in like a
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: mountain region like the Alps of Italy or Switzerland, things
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: like that. So that automatically takes me over to like
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: a funky oniony mountain cheese like griere or fontina, something
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: that really melts well. But on the other side of things,
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: specifically smoky Blue, which is a really cool blue cheese
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: made by Rogue Creamery in Oregon, I think would pair really.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Well with that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, Randall is shaking his head and what about phil
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: hogsh I love this question.
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: I got so excited. I immediately was like This reminds
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: me of Chinialle, which is Italian wild boar ragu from
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: Tuscany specifically makes me want to do a little bit
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: of like grated parmigiano reggiano on top, give it a
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: little bit of a salt, kick, a little umami, or
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: specifically a Tuscan peccorino.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, how about small game like squirrels and rabbits.
• 51:26
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna be really honest. I didn't know that you
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: could eat squirrel, but rabbit is one of my grandfather's
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: favorite foods. I have this like distinct memory of special
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: ordering a whole rabbit to bring to their house and
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: cook for him. So we did that. We did a
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: rabbit ragu with some tomatoes and fresh handmade pasta. So
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with peccorino romano for this one because
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: that's what my grandparents always have in their fridge for
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: putting on top of pasta.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about cheese pairings with fish. Let's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: start with fish that have a white flesh, like walleye
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: or perch or crappie. What cheese is pair well with them?
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: Cheese and fish is a hot topic. A lot of
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: people think that like, eating cheese with fish is kind
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: of sacrilege, but I think that there's definitely a right
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: way to do it. I'm gonna say peccorino romano again,
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: that is just kind of a go to when it
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: comes to fish that it has this really beautiful like brininess,
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: the saltiness that goes well with a lot of fish dishes.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: How about fish that that have some color in their meat,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: like a trout or salmon.
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: HM. For this, I'm thinking like smoked trout, smoked salmon.
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna go peccorino fiore sardo, which is specifically a
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: smoked pecorino. It's a little bit drier. I think that
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: that might be nice with a more oily fish.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, final one, what cheese is paar well with wild
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: mushrooms like morales, Chantrell's and bullettes.
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: Yum, Immediately, Oumammy, I want to go for a new
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: mommy bomb here. One of my favorite dishes to make
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: is a mushroom risotto with some melted to ledgio. To
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: Ledgio is a kind of stinky washtrine cheese from northern Italy.
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: I think that that pairs really well with those mushrooms.
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: But also if we're like, you know, on the Umami train.
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: We can do something with truffle, and I know that
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: truffled to ledgio is a thing that exists, So if
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: you can find it, I think that that would be wonderful.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Last question, I assume that boutique grocers and markets are
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the best place is defined a really good selection of cheeses,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: But what about the chain options when it comes to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: places like Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Elberton's. Who
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: has the best cheeses?
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: That's a good question. I get that a lot, so
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: of course, like a dedicated cheese shop or a special
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: che cheese counter is my first recommendation, but I know
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: that not everyone has the access physically or financially to
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: you know, frequent those places, and like, while my job
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: is partially to promote these high quality cheeses, it's also
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: part of my job to just encourage people to eat
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: cheese in general. So whatever cheese is that you choose
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: to enjoy, no matter where they come from, I'm just
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: happy that you're eating it, because what I like to
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: say is that cheese is for everyone, and everyone deserves
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: to enjoy it. I can't personally speak to the selection
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: of cheese and everyone's local grocery store, but I can
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: encourage you to branch out, try something new, and just
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: most importantly keep cheese on your table physically and metaphorically.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, and our chat has two things that they want
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: your take on. One is cheese curds and the other
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: is Valveda. Please tell us what you think of cheese
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: curds and Velveta.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: I love them. I love both of those things. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: love a fried cheese curd. I love a fresh cheese curd,
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: very squeaky. I love a flavored cheese curd. Valveda, i
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: am told, is like one of the best cheeses to
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: make macaroni and cheese with. I personally, I didn't grow
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: up with it. I am a Cooper Sharp girly. I
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: live in Philly. Absolutely love Cooper Sharp. But my my
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: partner loves Belvida. So a lot of those cheeses are
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: like chemically designed to melt beautifully. They're they're specifically meant
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: for that, and that's what they do. So that's why
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: I like. That's why I say that they have a
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: place and a time. And I would say that mac
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: and cheese is the place and time for that.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: So okay, thanks for your time and wisdom, Amelia, and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: congrats again on winning gold at the Cheese Olympics Flash gold.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Seth was nodding his head about the velveta and mac
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and cheese.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does make a good cheese for mac and cheese.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: I haven't had velveta though in long time.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of childhood. Yeah, I heard a lot
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: of names and cheeses am not familiar with. I need
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to go back and listen to this.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: We had Boondog in the chat saying his girlfriend is
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the cheesemonger at Smith's here in Bozeman, and that this
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: lady is he That's amazing nice. So Amelia's still here
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: she heard that.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: That's it's amazing good good.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I saw another person say that she could lead Wisconsin
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: into battle. It would work.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: For our last segment of the day, we have the
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Meat Eater Movie Club. This week, we're reviewing the twenty
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: eighteen comedy The Legacy of a White Tailed Deer Hunter.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Coincidentally enough, as a conversation about American versus other cheeses
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: in this film.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: There is Yeah. I watched that last night. I was like, oh,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: they we got to bring that up tomorrow.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Boy, I haven't heard that that jingle in a while.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you film?
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Should I begin happy to play? Oh? Please do okay.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: On February fifteenth, two thousand and nine, I fell in
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: love with a man. I was home for my first
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: year at college. I was at a friend's house. Across
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: the room, I caught a glimpse of a face unlike
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: any I had seen before. I heard his voice, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I was transfixed. He told me, in no uncertain terms
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: that he had a mind for victory in an arm
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: like an eff and cannon. His name was Kenny Powers,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: the maladjusted protagonist of the HBO series Eastbound and Down.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: In the years that followed, I came to know and
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: to love many other characters in the Danny McBride Jody
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Hill universe who resemble Kenny Powers. These men are not villains,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: They're not even precisely fools. Each is simply a man
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: who has confused his own success in one domain of
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: life for mastery in all domains. The inevitable consequence of
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: this mindset is an existence punctuated by eruptions of frustration
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: at the world around him. The expected results of his
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: actions never quite align with his delusions of grandeur. These
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: are men undone by their own mythologies. Josh poland Josh
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Bollen plays just such a man in the twenty eighteen
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Netflix original Legacy of a White Tailed Deer Hunter. Despite
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the provocative opening sentence of this review, what follows is
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: not a celebration of my favorite comedic catalog. This is
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Meat Eater Movie Club, where a focus has always remains
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: laser focused on the film at hand. Yes, but I
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: thought it was too good of a cold open, so
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I kept it in there, And that detail explains the
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: lack of a decent transition at this point in the review.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: The plot of Legacy is relatively simple. Man loves hunting,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Man ignores son. Man attempts to force son to love hunting,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Son declines. Josh Brolin stars as Buck Ferguson, the host
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: of a successful hunting video series, who takes his a
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: strange son into the wilderness to shoot his first deer,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: a ritual Buck believes will forge the bond their fractured
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: relationship has lacked. Jaden, predictably would rather be elsewhere Buck
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Ferguson wants his son to want a deer, and beneath that,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: he wants his son to want him to see in
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: his father, not a man his mother divorced, not a
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: stranger who shows up with camera equipment and a bumbling sidekick,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: but a living repository of masculine wisdom. This is, of course,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: not how children work. Children are not vessels waiting to
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: be filled with their father's hobbies. They're already full of
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: their own desires, most of which involve a guitar practice
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: and texting their girlfriends. Here's another spot where I could
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: have come up with a better transition. In nineteen fifty six,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: the sociologist Irving Goffman published the Presentation of Self in
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: an Everyday Life, in which you argue that human social
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: interaction is essentially theatrical, that we are all at times
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: performing versions of ourselves for audiences we have consciously or
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: unconsciously assembled. Goffman did not mean this point cynically. The performance,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: he suggested, is not a distortion of the self, but
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: an expression of it. We become, in some meaningful sense,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: what we repeatedly enact. The costume becomes the skin. Buck
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Ferguson does not merely hunt. He films himself hunting. Every
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: descent into the wilderness is simultaneously a descent into the
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: role of Buck Ferguson, legendary outdoorsman, as mediated through the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: lens of Don, a role masterfully inhabited by Danny McBride.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: The film's sharpest Excuse me, this is the film's sharpest
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: and most under explored insight. The camera does not actually
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: capture authenticity, it replaces it. The moment Buck raises his rifle,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: he is no longer a man in the woods. He
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: is a man in the woods being watched, which is
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: an entirely different psychological condition, one that forecloses the very
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: intimacy with nature and with his son that Buck so
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: desperately desires. This is a I've apologize, is going on
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: longer than I thought.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: No, you we all expect.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: There is a cruelty to this arrangement that the film
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: only partially acknowledges. Buck wants to give him. Buck wants
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: to give his son something real, a memory, a tradition,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: a moment of shared significance. But he has invited a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: camera to witness it, which means he has already converted
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: the moment from experience into content. The dear if shot
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: will not be a private communion between father and son,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: it will be episode forty seven buck Fever. The memory
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: will be archived before it is even formed. This is not,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: it should be noted, an affliction unique to men named
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Buck Ferguson. We live now in a civilization that has
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: developed an extraordinary and insatiable appetite for the documentation of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: its own significant moments, births, deaths, proposals, first steps, last words.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: All of it fed into the great digital maw, transforming
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: from experience into artifact, from felt into filmed. It is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: widely acknowledged that writing restructures consciousness. One shudders to contemplate
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: what the selfie lens on an iPhone camera has done
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: to it, Or I might add a set of three
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: cameras on tripods used to live stream a podcast every Thursday,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: during which occasionally a man reviews films. It is not
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: lost on your reviewer that this segment is itself a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: performance during which Randa Williams movie critic is as much
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: a constructed identity as Buck Ferguson Outdoorsman. The difference, perhaps
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: is one of self awareness. Buck never quite grasps that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: the camera has replaced the excis experience he was chasing,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: whereas I know that I'm full of shit. A meaningful
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: conclusion to this review was hard to come up with.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, Randall, you're a really good writer out there.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Someone says you're in the chat that Randall writes, well,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: oh thank you, rights so well, thank you?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Irving Goffman, that was the text that I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: read in probably my worst series of classes in college.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: It's terrible, and I've skipped two of them to watch
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: some of my favorite teams lose in NCAA championship games
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: that year.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, but only to Florida. If I recall, you must
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: have been a good student. If missing two classes was no.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: No, no, I missed more than that, But two of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: them were specifically to watch Ohio based sports teams lose
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: in college. Got it?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it depends on.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Guys. I think if you go to this film wanting
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: to see a great hunting film, you're you're missing the point. Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: I think that the you know, like, nobody watches Ricky
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Bobby Talladega Knights and says that's not how sports cars were, right,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: nobody watches so throw Away, the Weird Camo, the CGI,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: dear Yea, all that stuff. I enjoyed this film, not
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: as much as I enjoyed the rest of his catalog,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: but I thought it it. I mean, the reviews I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: read were terrible, but I thought it was good twenty
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: five percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I think I saw another IMDb had it like two
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: point eight out of ten stars. So not a well
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: received straight to streaming.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: And if you see the title, what's wrong? Oh, just
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: you guys, didn't you guys didn't enjoy it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to watch it. I imagine there's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: some point in my life I would have needed to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: have turned this on. But if you're like, if you
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: see the title and you're like, this is a movie
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: for deer hunters, that would be incorrect. It's not like
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Anie McBride's catalog. You wouldn't watch Righteous Gemstones if you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: attended a megachurch in the South, like it's it's just
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: not for you, yes, and this film isn't really for
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: someone you know who really loves the outdoors.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Although there's a lot of stuff in there that you
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: wouldn't pick up on if you didn't live in this space.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: That's true when he when he wrecks the ATV and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: he's like, now I have to pay for that. Yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: it's great. When he says the air mattress, he's like,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: he's like, they sent me this, you know, like to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: test this out. And he just reads like the product
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: description to his son, like it's very in conversation with
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: the real uh.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: And Jody Hill and Danny mcbrid broth grew up in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: North Carolina, like really inundated in this culture, and so
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I think they bring a lot of affection for it
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: while also you know, kicking it on a little bit.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked that while he is talking about getting
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the air mattress for free, you have a well placed
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Ozark Trail logo on the tent, and my wife and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I disagreed on if Ozark Trail paid for that placement
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: or not. I said, there's no way that Ozark Trail
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: has that budget to do that. And then also the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: tent was like just kind of loose and sloppy, like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be satisfied with seeing their tent like that,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: but you could see it and you know feel either
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: way they're like, Oh, he's talking about a sponsorship thing
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: while there's a sponsorship thing happening on this movie. It
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: was like breaking the fourth wall in a way.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think for me, I have a hard
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: time coming into this and judging it on its merits
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: because there's so many elements of a classic Danny McBride
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: product in it. There's the lackey McBride plays essentially Stevie
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Janowski from East Bound and Down. He's he's the man
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: who wants to be the great man, who really cares
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: nothing about his welfare, and in fact he suffers disfigurement
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: for that man several times, this several times saying inappropriate
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: things to children. When he describes parkour as gymnastics, I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: couldn't help but think of the classic line I'm not
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: trying to be the best at exercising to describe a triathlon.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: He has like a very precise understanding of behaviors that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: make characters look like losers, like when the stepdad is
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: riding the hoverboard right, and then the guy taking pleasure
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: in secretly sabotaging like one of his rivals when he's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: deleting the pictures off the phone like these are a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: classic Kenny Powers motifs.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think if someone loved Kenny Powers,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: they would love this.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to go I don't want
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: to go overboard here. I don't I wouldn't say that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I loved it. I enjoyed it. I don't know that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I'll watch it again. I won't revisit it. But given
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: the state of comedy movies in the two, I guess
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: this is twenty eighteen, so sort of coming out of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: the tail end of that era. But I don't know.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching something that I had never seen before,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and it kind of tickled my tickled the right notes
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I there's certain times when we're making a piece of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: content at Meat Eater, and you know when you're doing it,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: like this is really good or this kind of sucks.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: We like didn't hit our marks. I'm certain they knew
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: when they were making this movie that they were making
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: a movie that was going to get twenty five percent
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: on rot Tomatoes. Yeah, I'm sure that they felt it
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: and were very aware, and that probably was a little
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: freeing for them that, like, boy, this is just a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: steaming pile we've made. Oh yeah, and that's okay because
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: that's that's what it is.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good movie, but it's very watchable,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: mostly because of Brolin and Danny McBride. I think they're
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: just very compelling, fun actors to watch. And it does have,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: like Randall said, most of the hallmarks of a McBride
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: like Jody Hill thing, which is like a guy who
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: wears his fragile ego just like all plastered right there.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Brolin's great. Yeah, there's just like the moments where he's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: like not on camera and he's like quietly sad or desperate.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: He the other The other thing I enjoyed was ending
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: with a climactic like Whitewater negotiating the rapids. How many
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: movies have ended with that. I'd like to think that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: they didn't know how to end the movie and they
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: were just like, let's just do it.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing I enjoyed was that they had a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Mary Poppins backpack. Were like, it didn't matter the size
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: of the backpack they had. Any piece of gear could
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: have come out of that thing.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at any time. And the guitar I did enjoy,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: like the vo mid sequence in the film he talks
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: about he has like the vo where he's like Buck
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Ferguson goes always gets his deer and that was dead on. Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those those videos are great. I specifically flagged the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: soundtrack of of of those those hunting videos, which was
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: very like Mannheim Steamroller likes jangly synth stuff like it,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: but it fits so well. I thought that was like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: a really inspired decision.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Phil. I saw the Mannheim Steamroller in Bozeman a couple
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: of years.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, remember you tell me about that.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: And then they played Convoy while they were there, even
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: though it was a Christmas show. They said they can't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: do a show without playing.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Sure, you gotta do the hits. I've got some questions
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: for you, guys, because you know, I'm not really I'm
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: new to this whole world, but just just some vernacular.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Have you ever before shooting an animal said referred to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: shooting it as punching a time card? No, okay. One
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: of my favorite lines too, was I'm gonna honor this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: deer by splitting its dang eyebrows? Have you ever said
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: that that? I was just wondering if those were common phrases.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just not not privy too, Okay.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: The other one was that people will joke about other
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: people saying catch a deer, and I personally never heard
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: someone say catch a deer. Yeah, and so it feels
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  Speaker 1: like it's like being overplayed that someone who's out of
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  Speaker 1: the loop would say catch a deep But they say
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  Speaker 1: multiple times in this movie.
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  Speaker 3: Ye make I mean they make like hats that are
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: say catching deer. Yeah, you know, it's like a joke.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Seth watched this movie back during COVID. Seth, what
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: did you think of it?
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  Speaker 5: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of it, to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, But it was one of those movies like when
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: you guys said you're gonna review them, I'll review this movie.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not gonna watch it again. Like
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's fair.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like what I've seen and remember is like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: enough to get through this segment of the show that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: I just didn't want to spend any more time watching
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: it again because what I remember was that it was
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: it was. It had its funny moments, but overall it
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: was you know, I'm with the folks on Rotten Tomatoes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Seth had observed that it was like watching Jackie Bushman
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: portrayed in a movie, and I said, well, actually, it's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: about Roger Regland. That's who Josh Brolin's character was based on.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of Roger Regland, then maybe
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you need to watch this movie.
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  Speaker 2: It did have one of my favorite sort of tropes
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: of a Danny mcride project, which was genuine emotional sweetness
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: that's punctuated by something like horribly explicit. When he's telling
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: the story to the Sun about his girlfriend, he's like,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I got this girlfriend, Kim. Did you know she was
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: a registered nurse and a mechanic. Yeah, and so I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: told her that I had a broken truck and a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: heart condition and she liked that.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: It's like a genuinely sweet moment. And he's like, and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: check these out. Then he pulls out the cuckold polaroid pictures.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: I apologize to anybody that watched this. I didn't realize
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: that scene was in there. I'd never seen it.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: It was great. He's got one where he's on his
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: foot with the missing toe. He's like, see that, that's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: my foot.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: The missing toe is so good. I don't know how
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: much more we want to I liked the kids playing
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Redemption song and the dad. The dad compliments it and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: he's like, I didn't understand any of the lyrics, but
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: it sounded good. The dad not knowing that his son
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: has been playing guitar for two years is great. And
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: then my last note is one of my favorite all
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: time lines from a film. Oh from this film, Yes,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: when he begins to tell the story to the kid
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: of him splitting up with the kid's mom, and he
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: goes it started at own nine DVD sales were down slightly,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: and then proceeds to say that, uh, the he had
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: he had to prevent the kid's mom from going to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: the mall. After that, that was great.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Sorry, if you heard some static on this stream here,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it's coming from. It doesn't sound
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: like cell phone stuff. I've never heard this sound before,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: so it's probably a good thing the show's ending. Yeah,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I just want to throw out one a couple, a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: couple of lines that I really enjoyed. When when when
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Brolin finds him with the pictures and he's kind of
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: yelling at the kid even though it's not his fault
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: at all, and and he says, I'm not a kid anymore.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: He goes, you are a kid when it comes to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: nudeness and sexual relations. Ye, I did.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: I did love nudeness.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: There's one where he's talking to his girlfriend on the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: phone and it's clear that there's some like that the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: kid is the twelve year old kid and uh, and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: he says, you know, I he's something about how his
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: girlfriend is hanging out with another boy that he found
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: that peculiar. And there's some silence on the other line
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and he goes, I know, life's peculiar. I'm the one
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: who taught you that.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: And then when when when when he shoots, don you
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: see like an explosion of blood and Josh Brillen goes, shit,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: it's done. Those are those some of my favorites.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Not strong mussle control in this movie.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, the big question for me is did he
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: shoot at the end down then he brings it back up?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: That was great? Yeah, that was great, but it wasn't
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: gonna be on camera.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I bet this looked very familiar to you Big Buck
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Hunter boys, because that's like how the deer looked the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: sega was as though they just pulled them from a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Big Buck Hunter video game.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked how bad the deer looked.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, and they're always around like they're always in the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: most picturesque they're always at the water at the waterfall.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like they found a beautiful place and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: they're like, we know that Buck will be here.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it works.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: All right Again, our last episode next week with the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: movie club topic being Congo Randall's favorite movie.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: It's one of them.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's top ten, top ten, Yeah for show. All right, Phil,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: let's get some final feedback from the chat.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: This is from Chase. Phil. You got to ask Randall
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: what led to his trivia beatdown for Steve. Oh.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you just don't have it tough time killed me.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: That question. I will say that question is is an
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: experience that I haven't had before. In the room where
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Steve was just talking and talking and there was there's
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: nothing that could happen in my head, I just blew up.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: It's like playoff. It's like Game six Harden, you know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: man in the arena. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: like it's fun to have competition sometimes, So we'll be
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: back sometimes.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: What else you got, Phil?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, throw this one to seth If you've got something
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: to say. It's from Sarah. What's a good steelhead fishing
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: tip Midwestern or fishing off the Great Lakes? And I'm
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: new to the method, so any tip would be appreciated.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm not the right person now. I've never caught
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: a steel I've never steal ahead fished before.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I never touched one in my life.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big trout guy. Oh that sounded it
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: sound kind of angry.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Sarah, find.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Find a buddy, just like warm, warm water stuff. YouTube.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Go to YouTube type in steel head fishing, Great Lakes.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Message Chester Floyd.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: On Instagram a couple of shout outs here. I thought
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: this was fun. This is from Tyler. If any listeners
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: of the or of the Meat Eater Squad or ever
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: in southern Indiana, check out Old Homestead Distilling Company at
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Potoka Lake. We are sportsman friendly and out and they
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: have outlets to charge boat batteries. Oh that's fantastic.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I love that. And then uh, Jay Seuss is asking
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: for a shout out from Randall for his daughter, who's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: probably one of his biggest little fans. Shout out to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: your daughter or or her looks like it might be
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: a woman in the picture there.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Shout out to your daughter, Jay Seuss two one four five.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is that she sees in me,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: but it's good to have that support out there.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think I played to a young crowd. Maybe
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: I do. I've always thought I skewed older.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: What do you think a randomal demographic is?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Uh? I don't know.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Guys watching east bounding down a lot? Yeah, history buffs
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: maybe what what.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Would he walk out of a gas station with he
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: goes in there for beer and something?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Roller dog, roller dog?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, cooler ranch, Dorito's cooler?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Didn't they change the more cool there? No, they're they're
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: not cool ranch, am I right? It's all it's all
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: cooler and and not nachio cheesier. Didn't they change that?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It used to be nacho cheesier and I think
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: cooler ranch. But then they they made them all simplified
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: because everyone was used saying cooler ranch.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I might be they made them all compare. Oh no,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: maybe they did go back to cool ranch.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, real random, I think walks into a game, random
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: would know that he gets a roller hot dog.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: I feel like a fool.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: What else is I'll press the cut button. A couple of.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: A couple of brew dogs, yeah, some bruskies, yeah, maybe
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: some nightcrawlers.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: And he's got weird. He's got something weird that he's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: thinking about.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe some zin.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going home to like a traditional I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: feel like he's not going home to like a traditional
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: like uh, you know, like happy family sitting around the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: dinner table. I feel like he's kind of a loose cannon.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: And the cigarettes are speaking to him, but he doesn't listen.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Usually sometimes he listens, but if he's not buying them,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: it's like he never smoked them.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Favorite smoked trout recipes or techniques from Lane.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I like them gifted to me.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I like the I like to turn into smoke trout dip.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Anybody will enjoy even if they're like I don't enjoy fish,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: they can enjoy a smoked fish dip.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: God, I'm totally shaken by the doritos thing. I always
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: thought that was like a fun nugget that I had
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: in my head.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh man, sorry, last Oh, I don't even know if
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I have last one.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right. We will be back for the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: finale next week.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, six hour, mega stream, lots of stuff happening every segment.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: You could imagine. It's gonna be fun and us. This
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: is me signing out for good.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Oh well, you're gonna call in and deliver the happy
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: It's true of the baby Radio.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Did you know that internationally they're called cool American doritos.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: I like that.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: That's way cooler.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: So it was, it was.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: It was cooler from.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety five to two thousand and five. Two thousand
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: and six, the day of my Derita's consumption.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: There's your flavor text in the future. All right, we'll
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: see you back here for one last time next week,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: same time and place by now