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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Larry, Natalie, our audience.
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  Speaker 1: I've run into so many people because of my age
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  Speaker 1: and obviously the age of a lot of our listeners
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  Speaker 1: where you're either on the cusp of possibly being able
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  Speaker 1: to retire or you've retired. Or you've sworn to yourself,
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  Speaker 1: I'll never retire because if I do retire, I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: drop dead in a week. It's almost like three variables.
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  Speaker 1: I can't seem to avoid it.
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  Speaker 2: And when you.
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  Speaker 1: Just walk the hallways here at WOR, this iconic station,
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  Speaker 1: 710 WOR, the number one talk station.
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  Speaker 2: In New York. And you remember, wow, John Gambling retired early.
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  Speaker 1: How old was John Gambling, Natalie, when he decided to
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  Speaker 1: hang it up, go down to Florida and just enjoy
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  Speaker 1: his retirement years?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I thought he was.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a second. You were with all three Gambling's granddaddy. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It started in 1922.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I guess he was in his 60s.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when, Larry, you were away. 66. I just
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  Speaker 2: looked it up. Yeah, 66. You got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he could have continued on. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: he was tired or impaired. He just decided he came
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  Speaker 1: on with us one day when you weren't able to
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  Speaker 1: be here, Larry. And he just said, I had to
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  Speaker 1: hang it up. There's just no way that I was
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  Speaker 1: going to continue to do talk radio, which is not
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  Speaker 1: the hardest job in the world compared to what a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other people have to do. But it grinds you,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, when you have to wake up in
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  Speaker 1: the early morning hours like John did for so many years.
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  Speaker 5: I love when people know when to retire. You know,
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  Speaker 5: when they know this is it and then they're comfortable
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  Speaker 5: with it. That's incredible. That's a gift. Because I think
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people, there's two things. You're not in
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  Speaker 5: a position when you can retire. And that's a shame
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  Speaker 5: that people don't feel like they're in a position to
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  Speaker 5: financially retire so they keep on working. And then there's
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  Speaker 5: other people that just want to keep working because they
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  Speaker 5: like that lifestyle. And they keep trying to hold on
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  Speaker 5: to it as long as they can because they feel
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  Speaker 5: like they'll be bored if they're not working. I think
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  Speaker 5: they're the two things that go into it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, think about it.
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  Speaker 1: From time to time, we reach out to Joe Bartlett
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  Speaker 1: down in South Carolina with all the other snowbirds. who've
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  Speaker 1: moved down there to retirement homes or retirement villages. He's
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  Speaker 1: playing bocce. He's enjoying his retirement. Well, look how many
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  Speaker 1: years he worked here at WOR. In the early mornings,
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  Speaker 1: which is really the grind, they can really grind you.
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  Speaker 1: And I just say to myself, some, if they could,
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  Speaker 1: will work forever until they die. Others, it's like they're
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  Speaker 1: marking time before the parole hearing. You know, a prisoner
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  Speaker 1: is in jail and he's got the calendar up and
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  Speaker 1: he's just putting an X on for his next parole hearing.
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  Speaker 5: Well, those are people that know they can afford it.
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  Speaker 5: That have saved for it. So many people just don't
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  Speaker 5: have the money to do it, and Social Security is
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  Speaker 5: just not going to cut it. Somebody with pensions and
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  Speaker 5: things like that. I have two sisters that are teachers. Man,
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  Speaker 5: they have the best retirement package in the world. They
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  Speaker 5: count the days, just like you're saying, as many teachers do.
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  Speaker 5: When retirement comes, boom. Healthcare for the whole family, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because of the union, they have a pension.
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  Speaker 2: They're set.
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  Speaker 5: They are absolutely set as long as they have tenure.
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  Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what, there's statistics on this. One
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  Speaker 5: third of workers have postponed their retirements.
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  Speaker 6: One third.
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  Speaker 5: So that's pretty amazing. And 15% work past 70. So
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  Speaker 5: it is something that's happening. And it's because of the
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  Speaker 5: cost of living. It's because of healthcare expenses. It's because
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  Speaker 5: a lot of places are getting rid of pensions. And
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  Speaker 5: so because of that, You get to retirement, you go, well,
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  Speaker 5: how am I going to live? And then the other
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  Speaker 5: part of it is you go to yourself, what am
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  Speaker 5: I going to do on a daily basis? If you
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  Speaker 5: don't have money to travel, if you don't have family nearby,
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  Speaker 5: then you're thinking, what am I going to be, just
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  Speaker 5: sitting here by myself?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was going to say, you know, retirement, they
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  Speaker 3: have studies that link retirement to rapid.
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  Speaker 2: Decline of income.
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  Speaker 3: Cognitive function and physical activity social engagement and all those
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  Speaker 3: those things that you know that come along with work
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  Speaker 3: keeps you stimulated but i feel like i feel like
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  Speaker 3: i could find something that doesn't require waking up at
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  Speaker 3: three that i can figure something.
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  Speaker 5: Out your life is full you know what i mean
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  Speaker 5: there's people that their lives are full i feel like
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  Speaker 5: my life is full like if i retired i'd spend
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  Speaker 5: time with my grandkids if i retired i'd spend more
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  Speaker 5: time with my kids Problem is, right now, I have
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  Speaker 5: two kids in college, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you have to hang out at the frat.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Dad, hoist a few. He's still got some expenses.
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  Speaker 2: He's still got a bunch of kids under him.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, my dad, merchant seaman for 50 years,
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  Speaker 1: he retired at 67. He started sailing at 17, middle
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  Speaker 1: of the Depression. He was the oldest son in Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: He had to go sail flatboats on the Mississippi, then
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  Speaker 1: banana boats down to Guatemala and Honduras, and then... as
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  Speaker 1: a merchant mariner, was involved in World War II like
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  Speaker 1: so many other men.
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  Speaker 6: But.
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  Speaker 2: he was forced to retire at 67.
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  Speaker 1: So the way traditionally it would work for him, he'd
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  Speaker 1: be away eight months of the year. Eight months solid
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  Speaker 1: of the year, he'd be sailing the seven seas. Then
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  Speaker 1: he'd be home a solid four months around the clock.
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  Speaker 1: So for eight months, I had freedom. For four months,
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  Speaker 1: I was in lockdown. Because my dad understood every trick
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  Speaker 1: that a young guy could pull that normally the mother
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  Speaker 1: would not understand because you could do no wrong with
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  Speaker 1: your mother, especially in an Italian-American household.
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  Speaker 2: But for four months, he was at home. He loved it.
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  Speaker 1: So when he did retire at 67, he adjusted nicely
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  Speaker 1: because he had been away for so long of his
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  Speaker 1: working life. Imagine eight months a year, except when they
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  Speaker 1: were tied up in port when there were strikes.
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  Speaker 2: And those were really tough times.
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget to be sitting at the dinner table. Say, kids,
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  Speaker 1: my two sisters and me, we really got to cut back.
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  Speaker 1: There's no strike fund. So you're going to have spaghetti,
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  Speaker 1: but no sauce, no gravy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really cut it down.
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  Speaker 1: Craft macaroni, you know, four boxes for a buck. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everybody had to do it. At your age, you did understand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I totally understood. Totally understood. Because he took me to
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  Speaker 1: the strike lines, and I saw other guys who were
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  Speaker 1: in the same condition, and they were really worried.
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  Speaker 2: Really worried.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the right thing? Because there was no strike fund.
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  Speaker 1: You were out there.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't even know if you'd have a job.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then they had the goons, you know, who would
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  Speaker 1: come for you from the company if they decided they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to break the strike and bring scabs in. So
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  Speaker 1: I remember those situations, but I always remember my dad
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  Speaker 1: at the age of 67.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here in the house. I can catch up on
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  Speaker 1: all the time that I missed because I was sailing
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  Speaker 1: the 7C. So he welcomed it, and he kept himself busy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we need to talk to Joe Bartlett again
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  Speaker 3: because he's probably the happiest retired person I speak to.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. That is true.
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  Speaker 3: He absolutely is. I want to know what his secret
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  Speaker 3: sauce was because that's how I want to be.
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  Speaker 5: He knew his time because I know he kept putting
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  Speaker 5: it off. They kept thinking he was going to retire
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  Speaker 5: and he didn't. And then he put it off and
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  Speaker 5: put it off and put it off. And when he did,
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  Speaker 5: he was happy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he actually– we had a retirement party planned for him.
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  Speaker 3: Everything was set to go immediately. Then COVID hit, and
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  Speaker 3: then he stayed on because, you know, we were in
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  Speaker 3: this global crisis, and he was like, this probably isn't
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  Speaker 3: the time. And then he was able to work from home,
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  Speaker 3: and it changed his lifestyle a little bit. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: then he hung around for another couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Even when I wasn't here, I kept hearing that he
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  Speaker 5: was going to retire. I kept hearing that he was
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  Speaker 5: constantly going to retire, and then he never did.
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  Speaker 3: But then he was living in, you know, the Carolinas
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  Speaker 3: doing his broadcast from the house.
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  Speaker 2: Have you thought about your retirement? Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: I do, and I realize it's nowhere near, you know, financially.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not even close.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like I don't even try to think about
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  Speaker 3: it because it could get depressing.
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  Speaker 1: But if, in fact, all things were even, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: this was back 30 years, when you could plan a
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  Speaker 1: retirement because you didn't have all these additional costs and
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  Speaker 1: unexpected future developments, what age might you have thought about.
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  Speaker 2: Retiring, Natalie? I would say.
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  Speaker 3: In my mid-60s. I would want to hopefully have still
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  Speaker 3: good health. Hopefully, maybe I'd have an extended family at
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  Speaker 3: that point. Maybe my kids would start their own families
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  Speaker 3: and then I could do that. I'm a big person
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  Speaker 3: of volunteering, so I know I would start volunteering somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there is no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's why people set 65 as their retirement
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  Speaker 5: age because they feel like they still have life left.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they won't be stuck inside all the time. They
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  Speaker 5: could travel. They can still travel and do things. I
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  Speaker 5: think that's why people come up with that. You talked
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  Speaker 5: about your dad. My dad owned an advertising and public
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  Speaker 5: relations company in Philadelphia. He owned a building. And he
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  Speaker 5: sold it. And it was, you just saw him shrink.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when he, he used to have an office
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  Speaker 5: in our house that we weren't allowed to go into
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  Speaker 5: during the day. Because that's, he kept working. He kept
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  Speaker 5: writing books. He kept writing articles. He'd work with companies, freelancers.
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  Speaker 5: And so when I look at him, I think to myself,
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  Speaker 5: there's a guy that never should have retired. Right. He
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't have because you could see it was eating at him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my dad retired rather young, moved to Florida, and
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  Speaker 3: then got into politics and became the first mayor of
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  Speaker 3: the town that he lived in.
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  Speaker 2: What town was that?
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  Speaker 3: Estero, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Where the hell is a sterile Florida?
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  Speaker 3: It's actually next to Bonita Springs, in between Fort Myers
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  Speaker 3: and Naples.
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  Speaker 2: He's close to Warner.
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  Speaker 5: Did it have a salary, or is it one of
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  Speaker 5: the mayorships where you don't get a salary?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think there was a.
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  Speaker 5: A stipend?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he was living.
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  Speaker 6: Off of it.
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  Speaker 2: So he went to Florida and got into politics there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He started off doing like, you know, work with an
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  Speaker 3: environment and things like that. And he got socially active
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  Speaker 3: and then it started growing. But that, you know, he
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  Speaker 3: was that kind of personality. He couldn't stay home.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: So look at that. Her dad won. Got proactive. Got
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  Speaker 2: proactive in retirement.
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  Speaker 4: Be careful, Curtis.
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  Speaker 3: It could be running me one day.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: So life after retirement could be very interesting for people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but notice the personalities. All different types of personalities.
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  Speaker 1: Some who adapt to it right away. Some, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: the moment they're retired, within months, they're dead.
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  Speaker 2: They're dead.
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  Speaker 1: And you say to yourself, why they were so vibrant
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  Speaker 1: when they were at work, even though they were like
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  Speaker 1: sardines coming in on New Jersey transit, you know, two
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  Speaker 1: hours in, two hours out, Long Island Railroad.
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  Speaker 2: You say, boy, you would welcome that relief. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I guess there's something.
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  Speaker 1: That juiced them to give them a feeling that this
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  Speaker 1: is what they wanted to do each and every day,
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  Speaker 1: that they looked forward to waking up and listening to
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  Speaker 1: Larry and Curtis in the morning here on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: But it sounds like there's a lot more.
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  Speaker 5: was on and abc he was on and fox news
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  Speaker 5: but i thought fox was the best with him in
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  Speaker 5: talking about the investigation.
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  Speaker 7: The allegations were made clear and they wouldn't be investigated
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  Speaker 7: and they are investigating it i'm not going to get
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  Speaker 7: know I've been told they have a strong case, and
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  Speaker 7: we'll let the evidence lead where it leads, but she'll
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  Speaker 5: Now, the reason I thought Fox did so well as
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there. Not even a little bit?
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  Speaker 7: Not even a little bit. That's a question for the FBI.
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  Speaker 7: I know things, but that's a question for the FBI.
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  Speaker 5: Would it have anything to do with anything that happened
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  Speaker 5: in Minnesota?
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  Speaker 7: It's a question for the FBI.
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• 15:56
  Speaker 5: about this.
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: Not only was there a huge discrepancy in the financial
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: disclosure form, there was the winery that was the big
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: base of her $ 25 million listing on her financial disclosure form.
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: That winery has, according to the press, been shut down
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: because of fraud. They were apparently selling investors barrels of
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: wine to be aged, but there was nothing in the barrels.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Now, this is important because what she listed on her
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: financial disclosure form that every congressperson has to do was
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: $ 25 to $ 30 million was their net worth because of
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: the winery. When she realized that she was under investigation
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: and when more and more people in the state were
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: arrested for Medicare and Medicaid fraud, she changed it. to
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: $ 16, 000 to $ 98, 000. That's quite a big difference.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. That's a huge clerical mistake. Absolutely.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Now, which husband was she blaming this on? The most
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: recent one, right? The political consultant, the white guy.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: So she was.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Hiding money there. If every allegation against her is true,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: she was taking the money from Medicare and Medicaid fraud
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: and hiding it in her husband's winery, which is why
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: he was sending out barrels with no wines.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why I think it is very important that
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it's got to go beyond a paperwork discrepancy of a year,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: 30 years later. That's just a plus for Ilhan Omar.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It makes her like a victim, you know, like a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Joan of Arc 30 years later.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: OK, you said that I was 18.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I say I was 17. You're going to prosecute me.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: You're going to throw me out of the country, send
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: me back to Somalia over that. I think most people
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go for that. So that's why they got to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: do the deep dig. This gives them the right to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: go in further. But she's got big guns supporting her. Hey, look,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama. I never knew him to be very supportive
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: of Ilhan Omar. Well, the smooth operators come out in
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: defense of her. Other Democrats are naturally the squad. She's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a sister in solidarity. They've come out in support of her.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So let's see where the investigation goes. But I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: even people who are close to Ilhan Omar in the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party would have to say out of all the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: people in the squad, man, she's the one that you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: always asking the most questions.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Financial questions about like, where'd this money come from? Where
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: did this Medicaid issue come from? Where did this Medicare
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: issue come from?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It's always circling around Ilhan Omar and the Somalian community
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, her district.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Well, the Medicare and Medicaid fraud, there's now been three
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: dozen people from the Somali community that were sent to
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: jail for that. And she has been the ringleader of
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: everything in that community. So the idea that she's not
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: connected to it Seems far fetched, especially we get back
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: to the winery, especially because she felt like she had
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: to go ahead and say, I made twenty five to
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: thirty million dollars. And because she knew it was going
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: to be investigated. So she's going to say, no, that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the winery. The winery was making that much money. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: now we found out that the winery was all just fake.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: So there's, there's, there's there, there, there's a lot of
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: smoke right now. And when you look at that interview
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: with Tom Holman, the way he was trying to hold
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: back a smile, I think they got something. I think
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: they have a lot. I think this is going to
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: be a big story. It's not going to come out
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: before the midterms. They can't do this investigation that quickly,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: but I think after the midterms, you're going to hear
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: about charges that, several charges and it's going to have
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: a lot more to do than immigration fraud.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Well, as you know, right now she's playing the victim role.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: She's raising a lot of scoundrel. A lot of people
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: are throwing money at her saying, that's right. This is lawfare.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: They're coming after you. The Trump administration, Kash Patel, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Tom Holman and all the rest because they want to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: put you up on the cross there. And she is
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: playing it like the tears, crying, and then naturally playing
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the race card. You know, the investigation into her started
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: under Biden.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: That's what nobody reports. It was Biden that started this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: So if you're going to be upset about anybody, all
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: the groundwork was done by Biden. We just picked it up.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Because she gave every reason for you to investigate. Absolutely.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about somebody who was like in the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: shadows doing this. We're talking about somebody who was openly
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and proudly, you know, she married her political consultant, bragging
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: about the winery, how profitable it was. Remember the, the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: husband himself, oh yeah, I'm really proud of my winery,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you know. And then all of a sudden, realizing that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they had to dissolve it because there was no money.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: In fact, there was no wine. They couldn't turn water
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: into wine. They couldn't do it. Jesus Christ.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: That was the amazing thing about the congressional investigation because
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: they went to the wineries that got the wine to
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: ask about the wine. They just wanted to know if
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: it was worth what they were getting charged for it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And they said, There was no wine. What's in those barrels?
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Nothing.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Where's the wine? I don't know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe it dissipated. No, she's in some big trouble. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: got a feeling that she is going to be charged.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Right now, she is a victim because, you know, Trump's
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: on the other side and the Democratic Party, especially if
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Trump's on the other side. you quickly become a hero.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty in the morning. The conversation
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: continues on 710WOR.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: We're now joined by Jimmy Fallon, WOR host from 9
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: to Midnight and Fox Across America with Jimmy Fallon and
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: host of the Fox News Saturday Night Show with Jimmy
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Fallon on the Fox News channel. I was thinking about
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you over the last couple of days because I felt
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: really bad for Katie Zachariah who got the press secretary's
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: job and it was almost like a setup. She flew
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: in from LA, she got off the plane and she
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: was basically put at the podium and with not much
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: of a briefing, but now the job's open and I'm thinking,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: you know, Jimmy Fallon, I've seen pictures of him at
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: the podium before. If you were the press secretary, would
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: you start with a set?
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: I think it would lower the temperature. But if I
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: wanted to make the room laugh, I wouldn't write material.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: I would just read them my background check. Once they
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: saw the results. Like, wait, you did what when you
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: were 22? You once drove a man to wear an
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: attack suit?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Well, this is great.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Think how much heat it would take off the president
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: if I opened by saying that I've met a time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Traveler from another solar system. You know, it definitely takes
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the edge off him, doesn't it?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So do you have any suggestions since she actually beat
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the record set by Scaramucci, that's Skifosa. What was he,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: 12 days? She was, what, five days? Obviously better looking
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: than him. Do you have any suggestions? Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, she beat the record that was
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: set by the Goldfish. I won at the Carnival at
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Island Trees, Long Island in 1991. That thing at least
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: gave us 48 hours before they told me that story
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: about how it swam away.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: To go see his family. I heard the toilet flush
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in the other room.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Golding missed his family. He's going for a swim. Flush.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Anyway. No wonder why you've been traumatized. There's no doubt
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: That was it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: That was the defining moment.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, I will say this. They need, like, you
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: need a public speaker. Being on TV enough is not alone. Because, like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: as you can tell, poor Katie... She's used to being
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: one of four panelists, which is not the same thing
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: as leading every journalist on earth knowing they hate you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: That's not a friendly gig. If you're the Trump press secretary,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: you know every question is, you literally work for Hitler.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: What's going on with the tariffs?
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: And you're like, wait, where do I even start with that?
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: You need somebody who actually has live experience. That's why,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, a comic is not a bad choice in theory,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: but they're going to have to get someone who is
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: like more of a public speaker.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: You know, somebody who goes on the road a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Like if you wanted a serious, if you wanted like
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: a serious recommendation, Kurt, I think it should be somebody
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: who kind of ran for office and isn't doing a
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: lot right now.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Can we think of anybody like that? I mean like–
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I don't mean like locally. I mean like nationally. Like
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I was thinking of like Tudor Dixon. Do you know
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Tudor Dixon? I do. I do.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: She ran for Senate in Michigan, and she was one
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: of the old-fashioned women.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: She didn't have a penis.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: She didn't hate Israel. You know, so she doesn't fit
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: in in modern Michigan politics, but she has a good command,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and I think she would do it. But I don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: think she's listed in the odds.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sorry I asked that question.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I really am, Timmy.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That's the first time I've ever said that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So let's get to the field that you are an
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: expert in comedy. Two of the greatest of all time,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Seinfeld and Larry David. couldn't be any more different as
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they have now plunged themselves into the political realm. With Seinfeld,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: he's up front, he's IDF, he supports Zionism, he goes,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a Zionist, and he's still touring. So he's on
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that stage in Chicago, and right away, pro-Palestinian folks have
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: paid the tab to get in, and they start giving
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: him grief.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: Seinfeld!
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Seinfeld!
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Listen to me! You're a racist!
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: There are 74,000 dead Palestinians! So now, how would you
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: deal with that if all of a sudden you're doing
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: your stand-up?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Packed location, like 4,000 people. Yeah, make that funny.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the guy sounds like Larry David.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: It kind of sounds like a sketch of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: But what I love about these situations is like it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: such like a misappropriation of protest because nobody at a
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Jerry Seinfeld show makes Middle East policy.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: They don't make it for Israel. They don't make it
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: for America.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: They're just there to buy the two drink minimum, watch
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: the show and laugh. So it just seems like the
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: wrong thing to do.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you wouldn't.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Show up, you know, to my kids flag football game
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: this weekend and protest climate change, would you?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Because nobody there, you know what I mean.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Is in it. You know, it's again, it's like the
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: no king thing. We don't have kings. So it's like
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: them protesting no abs on The View. It's like you've
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: already accomplished what you're there for.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Hey, listen, as someone that tours the country and plays
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: some big arenas, I am always impressed by Donald Trump.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Forget the poll numbers for one minute. Just as a performance,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: I have never seen a politician so quick in the
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: moment and so comfortable on the stage as he talks
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: to arenas.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: Yes. He's a crowd work comedian. You know, the difference being, like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Seinfeld is a material comedian.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: He has an act. He has, you know, an hour
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and 20 minutes that he's written, and it's really well polished.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: And he's, for the most part, going to stick to
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: the script unless, you know, a free Palestine guy heckles
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: him as you played. Trump, on the other hand, shows
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: up with no script, meaning there's a teleprompter. But as
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: you know, the teleprompter is just a suggestion. And he's
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: very comfortable going off script. Look at this guy in
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: the front row. My friend over there is fat. You know,
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: he's more of a Rickles. Does that make sense?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: You know, we elected Don Trump, as I always say,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: and we got Don Rickles. That's what he is.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Well, don't you remember the roast when they roasted Donald
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Trump at the old Friars Club?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It was Don Rickles. You know, hey, you hockey puck.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He roasted not only Trump, but everybody that was on
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the dais.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Yep. That's how it works.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the thing about going with Trump rally
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: is like you're all in the splash zone.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: You have no idea where the thing's going to go.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: So it's weird because the things they do at a
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Trump rally that are predictable are I always say to
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: people because I've covered a lot of them. It's like
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: the new Rocky Horror Picture Show in that you'll hear
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: people in the crowd go, hey, we can't go to
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: the bathroom. They're about to do lock her up.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And they're like, we'll go.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: During Drain the Swamp and we'll come back for Build
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: a Wall at the end.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Come on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Hey, Bill Maher is getting a lot of blowback from
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: people like Larry David and other comedians for going and
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: meeting Donald Trump now twice. He's had two dinners at
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: the White House. And I think he's been brilliant in saying, look,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I still rip the guy all the time, but I'm
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: not going to turn down an invitation to meet the
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: President of the United States. How do you feel about it?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: How do you feel about the meetings?
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Well, he's being one of the adults in the room because...
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: What they're doing is they're not legitimizing this pretend hysteria
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: that Trump is like a Hitler or an existential threat
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: or living in this unprecedented moment.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: None of that is true.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: And when you refuse to meet with Trump, when you
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: refuse to show the humanity of the other side of
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: a political position. You further this manufactured hysteria. Like, there
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: are a lot of people that believe we're living in
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: this perilous moment where Trump's, you know, going to wipe
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: out the Republican.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: None of that's true. Again, I always make the same point.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: NBC employed this man for 15 years as the host
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: of Celebrity.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Apprentice, okay?
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: So imagine when an NBC anchor gets on TV at
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: least one time a day and calls him literally Hitler.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: They are literally paying him royalties. You know, and you
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: can't separate that. That is the truth.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: That is the truth, which means everything else that comes
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: after it is pretend.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: So what Bill Maher is doing is.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: He's forcing the conversation back to reality.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So I actually applaud that. I'm glad he does that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I always say, Jimmy, when you were Vice President Vance,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you called him Hitler. You became the vice president years later.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there is there is an ability to get
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: beyond that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he doesn't care.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: As he famously says, he's like, if I refuse to
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: work with everybody who's ever taken a shot at me,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I'd be alone in the White House right now. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: it's true, because everybody has taken a shot. And it
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: depends on your entree into the conversation. Like when Vance
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: got started in politics, Trump had just come down the escalator,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: and every op-ed in the media was Trump is Hitler.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Louis C.K. wrote one. Do you remember that? Louis C.K.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: wrote that he is literally Hitler.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: And I don't mind, you know, Louis C.K., nice enough guy.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: He's touring again, although you have to wear a poncho
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: if you're in the front row. Because, you know, sometimes
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: there's a splash zone with Louie.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: But the point is, he was swept up.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: By the same dopey zeitgeist as everybody else.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Tell you what, Jimmy. I'm the Sandman at the Apollo.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm coming out and giving you the hook. Every night,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: 9 to 12, Monday through Friday, you go to sleep
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: with Jimmy Failure. You'll wake up with Larry and Curtis
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: at 6 in the morning at 710 WR.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jimmy.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You're the best. See you guys.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: November 5th.