Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Your Suffering Is Not Meaningless
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- 0:04Welcome back to another week on the Ask Pastor John podcast. In our Bible
- 0:08reading, this week, we're in the thick of it reading through Leviticus,
- 0:11a notorious book that ends a lot of well intended Bible readers in the month
- 0:15of February, and a book that includes a hard text like Leviticus twenty one
- 0:19verses sixteen to twenty four, forcing Bible readers to ask the question why did
- 0:24God shun the disabled in the Old Testament. We looked at that question last
- 0:29time on Thursday. Today, we talk about personal suffering and the meaning fullness,
- 0:36the meaningfulness of Christian suffering. So often suffering feels meaning less and we
- 0:43can get disheartened and feel like giving up, leading to today's question from Samuel,
- 0:47Hello, Pastor John. The apostle Paul says in Second Grinthia Is four
- 0:50verses seven to nine that he was afflicted in every way but not crushed,
- 0:55perplexed but not driven to despair, persecuted but not forsaken. What does he
- 1:00mean that he was persecuted but not forsaken. When I imagine the sufferings of
- 1:06Paul hitting my life, I would be immediately tempted to think that such harsh
- 1:10persecution would make me feel completely crushed and abandoned by God. Much lesser pain
- 1:15in my life brings me to the brink of this already. So how did
- 1:19Paul endure such pain without feeling totally defeated? And what does faith looked like
- 1:25in your life when your life was at its hardest. So here's the text
- 1:30that we're being asked to get inside of two Christians four seven to nine.
- 1:38We have this treasure, namely, this treasure of vital faith in Christ,
- 1:45who is the image of God. We have this treasure in jars of clay
- 1:49that his fragile bodies and minds to show that the surpassing power belongs to God
- 1:57and not to us. We are afflict, did in every way, but
- 2:00not crushed, perplexed but not driven to despair, persecuted but not forsaken,
- 2:08struck down but not destroyed. And Samuel is asking, how did Paul endure
- 2:15this? This being afflicted, perplexed, persecuted, struck down? How did
- 2:19he endure this the way he did? And he has in mind the magnitude
- 2:24and frequency of Paul's sufferings. And I doubt that most of our listeners have
- 2:30an immediate consciousness of how terrible that was for Paul's I'm going to read it.
- 2:35This is one of the most surprising and staggering and appalling statements of Paul's
- 2:40life in the Bible. This is Sewod queens Is eleven twenty three following He
- 2:47endured far greater labors, far more imprisonments, countless beatings, often near death.
- 2:58Five times I received at the of the Jews the forty lashes last one.
- 3:02Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three
- 3:07times I was shipwrecked a night and day. I was adrift at sea on
- 3:13frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my
- 3:19own people, danger from gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the
- 3:23wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers, in toil and hardship,
- 3:30through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food,
- 3:36in cold and exposure, and apart from other things, there is the
- 3:39daily pressure on me of my anxiety. For all the churches and we complain.
- 3:46Samuel's question is relevant because of how easily we grumble about our own circumstances,
- 3:53when in fact none of us. I'm willing to say this to everybody
- 3:57listening to me. None of us endured what Paul did. So Samuel asked,
- 4:03how did Paul endure such pain without feeling totally defeated, indeed abandoned by
- 4:12God. That's what he asks, And I think Paul would give three answers.
- 4:16Number one, I think he would say, I was miraculously kept faithful
- 4:24by the Lord Jesus. It was a gift. It was a miracle.
- 4:28It was a work of God to keep me. That's why I didn't give
- 4:31in. His perseverance was a gift. Here's what he says two Timothy four
- 4:38sixteen. At my first defense, no one came to stand by me,
- 4:43but all deserted me. May it not be charged against them. But the
- 4:48Lord stood by me and strengthened me, so that through me the message might
- 4:55be fully proclaimed to all the gentiles. So I was rescued from the lines.
- 5:00That's his basic answer to how he endured. The living sovereign Lord Jesus
- 5:09Christ stood by Paul when nobody else did. He did not infer that because
- 5:15everybody abandoned him, God's not real. Since Christians are all a bunch of
- 5:19fakes. Jesus isn't real. He never went that direction which so many people
- 5:25do today. In First Corinthians one eight, he said that Christ quote sustains
- 5:32us to the end guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God
- 5:36is faithful by whom we were called into the fellowship of His son, Jesus
- 5:42Christ, our Lord. So Paul enjoyed fellowship with Jesus. That's the key,
- 5:48fellowship with Jesus. And God held on to Paul and sustained him and
- 5:55preserved his faith through everything by giving him the enjoyment of fellowship with Jesus.
- 6:01Through it all. God began the work in Paul on the Damascus Road,
- 6:06and according to Philippians one six, he believes God will finish the work.
- 6:12So God calls, God keeps, God establishes, God glorifies. This is
- 6:16God's work. If any of us endures to the end as a believer through
- 6:24suffering, it's God's grace that we endure. It's a gift. It's a
- 6:28supernatural work. So that's Paul's first answer. Second answer, think you would
- 6:32say God preserved me. Jesus saved me and kept me by means of teaching
- 6:42me a true and robust theology of Christian suffering, and in that theology of
- 6:49Christian suffering, which kept him was the conviction of God's absolute sovereignty over Paul's
- 6:56suffering, and that God is not only sovereign, but he's good and he's
- 7:00wise. Nothing befalls Paul but what God sends for his good purposes. If
- 7:06the Lord wills, James says, and Paul agrees, we will live.
- 7:11If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that. If
- 7:15he doesn't, we won't. We are immortal till God's work for us is
- 7:20done. God is sovereign. That is basic to Paul's and our endurance.
- 7:28In the first days after his conversion. Remember, even before his blindness was
- 7:33removed. There in Damascus, Anonius was sent to Paul, and he was
- 7:41sent with this message. I will show him, Christ says, I will
- 7:45show Paul how much he must suffer for the sake of my name. In
- 7:51other words, from the beginning, God made it clear to Paul, to
- 7:57serve me is to suffer. Suffering's not a detour, it's part of the
- 8:03past, part of the calling. Paul knew that all of God's wrath had
- 8:09been absorbed by Jesus when he died, so now there's no condemnation for Paul
- 8:16or for us in Christ. None of these horrible things that are happening to
- 8:20Paul are owing to God's wrath a relief. They were all part of God's
- 8:26fatherly, loving, disciplining ministry, advancing purposes for Paul, for the Church,
- 8:35for the world. Some of his sufferings, he says, were the
- 8:39refining of his own faith. The second green is one eight is amazing.
- 8:46He says, we were so utterly burdened beyond strength that we despaired of life
- 8:50itself. Indeed, we felt that we had received the sentence of death.
- 8:56But that was to make us rely not on our sels elves, but on
- 9:01God, who raises the dead. That was God's purpose to help Paul trust
- 9:07utterly in God by knocking all the props out from under his life, so
- 9:13that there was only one place to fall on God, who raises the dead.
- 9:18And he trusted God. He trusted this profound knowledge of the role of
- 9:24suffering in the life of the believer. Another part of his theology of suffering
- 9:30was that no pain here is wasted because it's producing a weight of glory beyond
- 9:37all comparison. In two Corindians four seventeen. This light, momentary affliction,
- 9:43he is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison. In
- 9:48other words, even in those last horrible days and weeks of suffering before death,
- 9:54they seem so meaningless, But even in those hours, nothing is wasted,
- 10:00because they actually are producing a greater weight of glory after death. I'll
- 10:07mention one more aspect of Paul's theology of suffering. That is, like a
- 10:13ballast in his boat to keep it from being tipped over by the sufferings.
- 10:18He says that his sufferings for the body of Christ were the filling up of
- 10:24what was lacking in the afflictions of Christ Classians one twenty four. I rejoice
- 10:28in my sufferings, which is an amazing statement in itself. I rejoice in
- 10:35my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh. I am filling up
- 10:41what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is
- 10:45his Church. This was not because Christ's afflictions were lacking in any atoning merit.
- 10:50That's not the issue. That's not the problem. It was because Christ's
- 10:54afflictions were lacking in personal presentation to those for whom he suffered. Paul was
- 11:05saying, in my sufferings for you, I am presenting to you Christ's sufferings
- 11:13for you so that you can see and feel His love for you in my
- 11:18suffering for you. And I think that's why many pastors are called to suffer
- 11:22the way they are so. Paul's first answer to how he endured these crushing
- 11:28hardships was one Christ kept him stood by him. And the second answer is
- 11:35he kept him by means of a true and robust theology of Christian's suffering.
- 11:41And finally, the third answer that Paul would give is I was kept by
- 11:46the precious and very great promises of God. Promises like I'll be with you
- 11:52to the end. I'll never leave you, I'll never forsake you. Matthew
- 11:56twenty eight, Hebrews thirteen. I will work every thing together for your good
- 12:01Rome's eight twenty eight. I will strengthen you, I'll help you, I'll
- 12:05uphold you Issaa forty one ten. In the Lord, none of your work
- 12:09is in vain on Corinthians fifteen fifty eight. To live is Christ. To
- 12:13die is gain away from the body, is to be at home with the
- 12:18Lord. So these three answers to how Paul endured are our answers. I
- 12:26think that our answer as well as Paul's answer, Paul lived his life for
- 12:33our sake. That's why you endured these things, so that we could see
- 12:37and learn. Number one, the Lord kept him and we'll keep us.
- 12:41Number two, we should have a robust biblical theology of Christian's suffering. And
- 12:46number three, we should live through it all by the precious promises of God.
- 12:52Hey man, thank you, Pastor John. And I just want to
- 12:56underline tewod Corinthians four seventeen, a text that is so pressure to us at
- 13:00desiring God, so memorizable. No Christian suffering is meaningless, none of it.
- 13:09It's completely meaningful. Our suffering is working for us. Only by faith
- 13:15can we embrace such a truth. It's profound, and that's why two Corinthians
- 13:18four to seventeen comes up over and over on this podcast and dozens of episodes
- 13:24on suffering just a major theme of ours. And to show you how central
- 13:28this text is to Pastor John and his thinking. Here, you might be
- 13:31interested to learn that I wrote a book to collect all those APJA episodes together
- 13:35into one digest to help you see the ground that we've covered in the past
- 13:39on this topic of suffering. And that book is done and it releases soon.
- 13:41It's titled Ask Pastor John seven hundred and fifty Bible answers to Life's Most
- 13:46Important Questions. And there I devote pages three hundred and sixty five to three
- 13:52hundred and ninety four whole thirty paid section to this topic of personal suffering in
- 13:58the meaningfullness of it. And I pray this new book we'll serve you to
- 14:03find your way around the archive to find the right episodes that you need in
- 14:07a timely way. The book launches soon and Pator John and I are going
- 14:11to talk about it coming up shortly. Asked Pastor John seven hundred and fifty
- 14:13Bible answers to Life's most Important Questions. Can't wait to see that in your
- 14:18hands, and it will be soon. Honored to be your podcast host for
- 14:20over a decade from behind a microphone, now I get to be your podcast
- 14:24host in a book format, whether by microphone or by book. It's truly
- 14:28my joy to be your host. I'm Tony Ranky. See you Thursday.