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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a killer get
- 0:16Speaker 1: set free by a judge who should know better, only
- 0:22Speaker 1: to kill again? And nobody seems to have noticed. But
- 0:27Speaker 1: guess what we have I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
- 0:35Speaker 1: and series XEM one eleven, and I am talking to you,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Judge Natalia Cornelio. Judge Natalia Cornelio, you're the reason that
- 0:53Speaker 1: Summer Chester is dead because you let her killer from
- 1:00Speaker 1: behind bars after police catch him following a deadly home invasion.
- 1:05Speaker 1: They get him behind bars, you let him out and
- 1:09Speaker 1: guess what, it ain't her first trip to the rodeo.
- 1:13Speaker 1: She's done it before. Again. Thank you for being with
- 1:17Speaker 1: us here at Fox Station. In series M one eleven,
- 1:20Speaker 1: take Less to our Frisday kp RC two. I want
- 1:23Speaker 1: to show you something right off the bat that we notice.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Take a look at the front door. It is riddled
- 1:28Speaker 1: with bullet holes. Police still trying to figure out if
- 1:31Speaker 1: the shooting happened outside or inside the home. We know
- 1:34Speaker 1: that the man who died, the fifty five year old man,
- 1:37Speaker 1: did die inside the home. A lot of moving parts
- 1:40Speaker 1: to this investigation still ongoing. Let's take a look at
- 1:43Speaker 1: the video. Police say this happened around one fifty this morning.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Three men came up to this house, forced their way in.
- 1:50Speaker 1: There was some sort of altercation or fight. Then shocks
- 1:54Speaker 1: rang out and one man was hitting the torso, the
- 1:57Speaker 1: other man hitting the leg. Both of those men if
- 2:00Speaker 1: at this home. The man who was hit in the leg,
- 2:01Speaker 1: in fact, police say, was on his way to work.
- 2:05Speaker 1: He is recovering at Benab. The man hit in the torso,
- 2:08Speaker 1: the fifty five year old man, died here at the scene. Now,
- 2:11Speaker 1: the three suspects, they were able to get away with
- 2:14Speaker 1: a cell phone, a purse, and some cash. And then
- 2:18Speaker 1: we don't know why they wanted those things, but that
- 2:20Speaker 1: is why. That is what they got away with. A
- 2:23Speaker 1: home invasion, leaving two men shot, one dead, over a
- 2:27Speaker 1: cell phone, a purse, and some cash that was in
- 2:30Speaker 1: the purse. A home invasion nearly two a m. In
- 2:35Speaker 1: the morning. It seems like a horror movie. But why
- 2:40Speaker 1: why did this judge? She's got a New York University, Okay,
- 2:45Speaker 1: I went there NYU Baxter's degree. Then she goes to
- 2:50Speaker 1: law school and University of Chicago, great schools. So what
- 2:54Speaker 1: went wrong with me? An All Star Panel to figure
- 2:58Speaker 1: out what the hay is going on. First of all,
- 3:00Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor, high profile lawyer off and on TV.
- 3:05Speaker 1: You can see him practically everywhere. Douglas Burns. Doug Burns,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and it's in his blood. His father was the US
- 3:15Speaker 1: Attorney General as well in that jurisdiction. Doctor Jorry Crawsen
- 3:19Speaker 1: joining US faculty Saint Leo University, psychologist, author of operations,
- 3:26Speaker 1: Chris Buyer's former police chief John's Creek, Georgia, twenty five
- 3:31Speaker 1: years on the force, now PI and polygrapher at Chris
- 3:35Speaker 1: Buyer's Investigations and polygraph dot Com. Doctor Kendall Crowns, the
- 3:41Speaker 1: chief medical Examiner Charrant County. That's in Fort Worth. Lecturer
- 3:46Speaker 1: University Texas and Texas A and M. He's also at
- 3:49Speaker 1: the University of Texas Medical School. I could go on
- 3:53Speaker 1: and on about doctor Kendall Crowns. But doctor Kendall Crowns,
- 3:57Speaker 1: aren't you turne of seeing all these dead bodies piling
- 4:00Speaker 1: up in your office? This went down in Texas. Kendall Crowns,
- 4:05Speaker 1: your backyard with me a very special guest, longtime colleague,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and I consider a friend. Andy Cohn director of Victims
- 4:16Speaker 1: Services and Advocacy Crime Stoppers of Houston. Andy has been
- 4:22Speaker 1: fighting the good fight as long as I've known him.
- 4:26Speaker 1: But first to Alexis Terreschu, Crimealine dot Com investigative reporter, Alexis,
- 4:31Speaker 1: I don't get it. So this guy home invades, murders
- 4:37Speaker 1: somebody for a cell phone in a pocketbook, and then
- 4:39Speaker 1: this judge, Natalie Cornelio, let's have walk. Then he kills
- 4:44Speaker 1: somebody else, Summer Chester. Let's see, Summer's just twenty three
- 4:48Speaker 1: years old. Who is this guy Jonathan Vera, So he
- 4:53Speaker 1: was twenty years old, not a teenager. Twenty years old
- 4:56Speaker 1: when he and two other men first into the home
- 4:59Speaker 1: of a man named Silvano Quartet. Now Silvano and his
- 5:03Speaker 1: wife were in bed. This is one fifty in the
- 5:05Speaker 1: morning day. How'd a gentleman who was staying with them?
- 5:07Speaker 1: He was leaving the house. He was going to work
- 5:09Speaker 1: and he worked for a late or an early morning shift. Alexis,
- 5:14Speaker 1: I'm sure I've told you about my dad working on
- 5:16Speaker 1: the railroad Norfolk Southern for the longest time. He did
- 5:22Speaker 1: what they call the mobile route because they went through
- 5:24Speaker 1: a lot of layoffs and my dad got they had
- 5:28Speaker 1: one job for him, Alexis was the mobile route, which
- 5:32Speaker 1: means he would drive sometimes three or four hours to
- 5:35Speaker 1: get to work wherever they needed him throughout the Southeast
- 5:40Speaker 1: for that day. One day he might drive an hour
- 5:43Speaker 1: to work, the next day four hours, the next day
- 5:46Speaker 1: thirty minutes, depending on That's the only way he'd keep
- 5:49Speaker 1: his job at Norfolk Southern with a wife who was
- 5:52Speaker 1: then a bank teller, and three children. So one night
- 5:56Speaker 1: my dad would go to work at eleven pm. Next
- 6:00Speaker 1: day you might go to work at three. So I
- 6:03Speaker 1: get it. Somebody is up going to work at what
- 6:07Speaker 1: was at one fifty A m Alexis, Yes, one fifty
- 6:10Speaker 1: am leaves the house like is walking out the front
- 6:13Speaker 1: door to go to work and is ambushed by three
- 6:15Speaker 1: men with guns and so they shove him back in
- 6:18Speaker 1: the house. They go in the master bedroom, they grat
- 6:22Speaker 1: and that this is where mister Cortez and his wife
- 6:24Speaker 1: are sleeping in their bed. They hold them at gunpoint.
- 6:27Speaker 1: So these to this couple is you know, in their
- 6:29Speaker 1: pajamas in bed in the middle of the night, and
- 6:31Speaker 1: they're being held at gunpoint. And these guys are running
- 6:34Speaker 1: around the house, ransacking the house looking for things and
- 6:37Speaker 1: all they get to the person cell phone and some cash.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Now it sounds like they're in your house right now,
- 6:42Speaker 1: go ahead. They don't leave with the stuff and just
- 6:44Speaker 1: say by guys there. They end up opening fire. The
- 6:47Speaker 1: people in the home did not have guns. They were
- 6:49Speaker 1: not shooting to descend themselves. These people were just shot
- 6:53Speaker 1: by the folks that broke into the home. So Sylvano
- 6:57Speaker 1: shot in his bed, and then as the other man
- 7:01Speaker 1: is leaving the house, it appears that the three guys
- 7:04Speaker 1: outside turned fire back into the house. So they were
- 7:08Speaker 1: already gone and nobody was shooting at them, and they
- 7:10Speaker 1: turned back around and shoot at the guy who had
- 7:12Speaker 1: been reading for work. Take a listen to our cut
- 7:15Speaker 1: to This is Randy Wallace Fox. Twenty six. Police say
- 7:19Speaker 1: twenty year old Jonathan Vira and two other men killed
- 7:22Speaker 1: Solvano Cortez during a home invasion in the greens Point area,
- 7:27Speaker 1: held the homeowner and his wife at gunpoint, ransacked the home,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and then ended up killing a fifty five year old
- 7:35Speaker 1: homeowner and then shooting another suton shooting another person while
- 7:39Speaker 1: they were fleeing the scene. Then, seventeen year old Jonathan
- 7:42Speaker 1: Vira was charged with capital murder. His bond was set
- 7:45Speaker 1: at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He was actually
- 7:50Speaker 1: in Harris Kenner jail for at least two plus years,
- 7:53Speaker 1: and while he was in county jail, he also was
- 7:56Speaker 1: charged with another felony by harassment of a public servant
- 8:01Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty First Criminal District Court. Judge Natalia
- 8:05Speaker 1: Cornelio Lord, there is bond three fifty First District Court.
- 8:09Speaker 1: I mean lowered it to what I've never seen in
- 8:12Speaker 1: my career. Fifty thousand dollars for capital murder. Wow, okay,
- 8:18Speaker 1: when you hear fifty thousand dollars is the bond to you?
- 8:22Speaker 1: Former federal prosecutor, high profile lawyer Doug Burns. We all
- 8:27Speaker 1: know when we hear fifty thousand dollars bond, you don't
- 8:30Speaker 1: put up fifty thousand, You don't more, you don't take
- 8:33Speaker 1: a lean on your home, You don't rush to the
- 8:36Speaker 1: bank for a fifty grand loan. You put up ten
- 8:39Speaker 1: percent of that five thousand dollars. Exactly right. You put
- 8:43Speaker 1: up five thousand dollars with a bail bondsman, PaperWorks filled down,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and you're released and real quick. Fifty thousand dollars reduction
- 8:50Speaker 1: on a capital offense is absolutely absurd and it's horrific
- 8:54Speaker 1: what happened. And again, I'm just glad that you're calling
- 8:57Speaker 1: this church to account because this kind about, no question
- 9:01Speaker 1: about it, nothing crime stories with Nancy Grace, you know, Doug,
- 9:16Speaker 1: another thing about bill bond. For instance, if you go
- 9:20Speaker 1: to any jail, and I don't advise it. I've been
- 9:23Speaker 1: in way too many jails. All around the jail, all
- 9:27Speaker 1: around the jail's crop up bond companies, bonding companies because
- 9:33Speaker 1: you know, let's just pretend your son gets a DUI
- 9:38Speaker 1: ve vehicular homicide. You've never had any contact with the
- 9:44Speaker 1: justice system at all. You got to bond him out,
- 9:48Speaker 1: and right by the jail you see triple A bonding.
- 9:54Speaker 1: You walk in, you give them the arrest report, and
- 9:57Speaker 1: they can take collateral f since they may take a
- 10:01Speaker 1: lane against your home very often to get that five grand.
- 10:04Speaker 1: You don't even have to put up five grand. How
- 10:06Speaker 1: does it work? Doug Burns simply put, Yeah, I'm making
- 10:09Speaker 1: a really great point, of course, which is that when
- 10:12Speaker 1: you go to local courthouses, you know, in state court,
- 10:15Speaker 1: for example, here in New York, you see signs and
- 10:17Speaker 1: offices for bonding companies all over the place. They're incentivized,
- 10:20Speaker 1: obviously to do business, and as you say, they take
- 10:24Speaker 1: a small percentage, because if you want to look at
- 10:26Speaker 1: it from a statistical point of view, you know generally
- 10:29Speaker 1: those who fully you know, are in the minority. But
- 10:33Speaker 1: this case, by the way, real quick, is not about
- 10:35Speaker 1: risk of flight. This is about danger to the community.
- 10:38Speaker 1: That's a very important point. You keep people detained pre
- 10:41Speaker 1: trial for two reasons, One because they may not reappear
- 10:44Speaker 1: in court, but two ten times more importantly in a
- 10:46Speaker 1: violent crime case, Nancy, so they don't hurt somebody else, obviously, Exactly,
- 10:51Speaker 1: Doug Burns, Exactly, you're preaching to the choir right now.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Burns and I want to talk Andy Kahan joining me,
- 11:00Speaker 1: longtime colleague, fighting for victim's rights. Andy, I want to
- 11:05Speaker 1: hear about the murder in the first case, the case
- 11:11Speaker 1: where Sylvano Cortez is shot dead in his own bed,
- 11:16Speaker 1: lying there with his wife asleep. Now, this is before
- 11:20Speaker 1: the same guy gets out and kills Somerchester. Thanks to
- 11:24Speaker 1: Natalie Cornelio, the judge tell me about the death of
- 11:29Speaker 1: the first victim. I Nancy, this was a brutal, horrific
- 11:33Speaker 1: dead This is a home invasion that you see on
- 11:35Speaker 1: the news where they're kicking the doors at one forty
- 11:38Speaker 1: five in the morning, and you got Almater fifty five
- 11:40Speaker 1: years old sleeping with his wife and they held him
- 11:43Speaker 1: at gunpoint, and then they shoot and kill him, and
- 11:46Speaker 1: then they shoot another guy that was just simply trying
- 11:48Speaker 1: to go to work. He was actually bara was on
- 11:51Speaker 1: the land. They didn't actually arrest him and his two
- 11:53Speaker 1: accomplices until almost a year later. So he's taken in
- 11:58Speaker 1: the custody. He's charged capital murder, the most egregious offense
- 12:03Speaker 1: that you can charge anyone. It is the only offense
- 12:07Speaker 1: in which a judge actually can have a no bond.
- 12:13Speaker 1: That didn't happen in this case. The judge sets a
- 12:16Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond. From our perspective,
- 12:20Speaker 1: it's pretty lowball for capital or murder, but obviously it
- 12:23Speaker 1: was good enough to keep Barr in jail for two
- 12:26Speaker 1: years and then inexplicably, all of the I mean you
- 12:30Speaker 1: lowered the bond. Not only do you lower the bond
- 12:34Speaker 1: to a low ball fifty thousand, he's actually charged with
- 12:37Speaker 1: another felony while he's in oh Andy, Cohn. Please tell
- 12:42Speaker 1: everybody what this guy did behind bars? Jonathan Verr. He's
- 12:47Speaker 1: already home invaded, shot one guy dead in his sleep.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Now he's behind bars, after year walking free, bragging, what
- 12:55Speaker 1: did he do behind bars? So he's one of the
- 12:58Speaker 1: officers evidently approa oshim and he chucked it. Basically, he
- 13:01Speaker 1: chucked his saliva at him, and so he's charged with
- 13:05Speaker 1: harassment of a public servant. He's spent on the he's
- 13:09Speaker 1: spent on the jail keeper. Yet ninety nine pages of
- 13:13Speaker 1: jail infractions documented, and this is the person you deemed
- 13:19Speaker 1: to be a good risk. Will you say that again,
- 13:21Speaker 1: Andy com ninety nine pages? Please say that again? Ninety
- 13:25Speaker 1: nine documented pages of infractions while in custody, and yet
- 13:31Speaker 1: dis judge deemed this person to be a good risk
- 13:35Speaker 1: to lower from two hundred and fifty thousand to an
- 13:38Speaker 1: unheard of fifty thousand per capital murder. Guys, I want
- 13:44Speaker 1: you to take a listen to our cut three, our
- 13:46Speaker 1: friend Randy Wallace at Fox twenty six Houston. That is insane.
- 13:51Speaker 1: That is a two years ago that would have been
- 13:54Speaker 1: aggravated assault bone. One day after Cornelio lowered to respond,
- 13:58Speaker 1: he walked out of jail. Just last week, police say
- 14:02Speaker 1: Vera took another life and is now charged with manslaughter
- 14:05Speaker 1: and the death of summer Chester. The reduction of his
- 14:09Speaker 1: bond from two fifty to fifty led to the result
- 14:15Speaker 1: of killing summer Chester. The judge should be held accountable
- 14:20Speaker 1: right now. They have absolute immunity. They can do whatever
- 14:22Speaker 1: they want because they know no one's going to hold
- 14:24Speaker 1: them accountable. You know you're hearing speaking reporter Randy Wallace
- 14:28Speaker 1: Fox twenty six, but you're also hearing Doug Griffith, the
- 14:31Speaker 1: president of the Houston Police Officers Union, and of course
- 14:36Speaker 1: our friend Andy conn at Crime Stoppers. So he gets
- 14:39Speaker 1: out thanks to the judge and then kills somebody else.
- 14:43Speaker 1: I want to go now to our special guest, doctor
- 14:45Speaker 1: Kendall Crown's chief medical examiner, Fort Worth. Doctor Kendall Crown's
- 14:52Speaker 1: shot in your sleeve, shot lying in your own bed
- 14:56Speaker 1: with your wife. How long does it take before a
- 15:01Speaker 1: victim bleeds out dead? I mean, I wonder a disc
- 15:06Speaker 1: guy in the middle of the night realizes he's dying
- 15:10Speaker 1: right then and there. Well, of course it's going to
- 15:13Speaker 1: depend on where you get hit. But if you're not
- 15:15Speaker 1: hit in the head and involving your brainstem, which could
- 15:20Speaker 1: kill you instantly. Let's say you get hitting the chest.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Even if it's hit in your heart, you're going to
- 15:25Speaker 1: have at least several seconds where you can feel the
- 15:28Speaker 1: pain and bleeding and then you realize you're dying and
- 15:32Speaker 1: you're going to be able to cry out. Also, if
- 15:34Speaker 1: you get hitting your lungs, you're going to be bleeding
- 15:36Speaker 1: into your chest cavity, breathing into your airways, so you're
- 15:40Speaker 1: going to be gasping and coughing up blood and also
- 15:43Speaker 1: be able to realize that you're dying. So, just depending
- 15:47Speaker 1: on where you get hit, it can be instantaneous or
- 15:49Speaker 1: it can take a matter of minutes. The door Kittel Crowns,
- 15:53Speaker 1: has there ever been a point in your life where
- 15:55Speaker 1: you thought you were actually dying. Yes, A couple of times.
- 15:59Speaker 1: My there held me underwater until I had in hail
- 16:02Speaker 1: water and I thought it was going to drowned. It
- 16:04Speaker 1: wasn't a pleasant experience. That was when you were a kid,
- 16:06Speaker 1: a child, a team. I've had a couple of times.
- 16:12Speaker 1: One was and I was out with my investigator, Earnest,
- 16:15Speaker 1: and we were in one of the worst areas, the
- 16:19Speaker 1: most crime ridden area of Atlanta housing project and I
- 16:24Speaker 1: was trying to serve a subpoena on a guy. It
- 16:28Speaker 1: was about noon, a little before noon, and we went
- 16:34Speaker 1: up to a door and I was directly in front
- 16:37Speaker 1: of the door, and my investigator was standing to my right,
- 16:41Speaker 1: and the sun was bright, so inside the apartment it
- 16:45Speaker 1: was dark, and they had a screen door over the
- 16:50Speaker 1: front door, so I couldn't see in through that. It
- 16:54Speaker 1: was a rusted screen door, and the first thing I
- 16:59Speaker 1: saw was the barrel of a long gun pointed right
- 17:04Speaker 1: at my face, and my investigator shoved me to my left.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I felt I went flying off the porch down about
- 17:16Speaker 1: I don't know, three feet into a bunch of shrubs,
- 17:18Speaker 1: and we immediately he immediately grabbed the guy, and just
- 17:24Speaker 1: so you know, the subpoena was served. Long story short.
- 17:29Speaker 1: In that split second, I guess I thought I'm gonna
- 17:34Speaker 1: get shot. I didn't have time to really think about it.
- 17:36Speaker 1: There was another time, Doctor Kendall Crowns at one of
- 17:39Speaker 1: my sons early early soccer baseball. I just raced across town,
- 17:47Speaker 1: literally raced from work to get there for the game,
- 17:52Speaker 1: and my chest hurts so bad I had to lay
- 17:55Speaker 1: on the ground and my dress up clothes because I
- 17:58Speaker 1: couldn't sit up. Well, I'm having a hard tag. I'm
- 18:01Speaker 1: going to die right here in the dirt. My point is,
- 18:05Speaker 1: doctor Kendall Crowns, I wonder if the victim, Sylvannah Cortez,
- 18:11Speaker 1: was aware his wife was right beside him screaming or crying,
- 18:15Speaker 1: if he knew what was going on around him, if
- 18:17Speaker 1: there were children in the home screaming and crying. I mean,
- 18:20Speaker 1: how long does it take you to die if you're
- 18:23Speaker 1: not shot in the head again, it can take several minutes.
- 18:26Speaker 1: So he would be aware of what's going on around him,
- 18:29Speaker 1: hearing his family screaming, you know, realizing he's probably going
- 18:33Speaker 1: to die. So it is I'm sure not a pleasant experience.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And then doctor Jerry Cross and psychologist's faculties Saint le
- 18:41Speaker 1: On University and author his family for the rest of
- 18:45Speaker 1: their lives, if they stay in that home, every time
- 18:49Speaker 1: they walk through that room that's where dad died. It's
- 18:52Speaker 1: from my husband, It's going to be very traumatic, very traumatic.
- 18:56Speaker 1: I mean, like we know the day a year August six,
- 19:02Speaker 1: I think, well, this day sucks because this is the
- 19:06Speaker 1: day my fiance was martyred, or this is the day
- 19:08Speaker 1: my dad passed away. But they have to walk through
- 19:12Speaker 1: the room every day or look at the front door
- 19:15Speaker 1: that was kicked in. I mean, how do you get
- 19:17Speaker 1: past that jewlry. A lot of families actually moved because
- 19:21Speaker 1: the memory is so intense. Yeah, that they've got to
- 19:25Speaker 1: get out there because it's a reoccurring trauma to them.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I mean, everything in that house is going to remind
- 19:31Speaker 1: them of that incident. At Death Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you know, Chris Buyer's joining me. I'm destructed by the
- 19:54Speaker 1: dichotomy of the peaceful sleeping in the home about to
- 19:59Speaker 1: a and the eruption of gunfire somebody kicking the door in.
- 20:07Speaker 1: But Chris, you're the former police chief over twenty five
- 20:12Speaker 1: years now, PI, What did the judge think this guy's
- 20:16Speaker 1: going to do when he gets out after as Andy
- 20:18Speaker 1: con just told us, after murdering someone asleep in their
- 20:22Speaker 1: own bed for a person's cell phone. What does she
- 20:28Speaker 1: judge Natalie Cornelio think that the defendant, Jonathan Vera, was
- 20:35Speaker 1: gonna do when she let him walk ninety nine in
- 20:40Speaker 1: fractions behind bars alone. Yeah. Absolutely. And one thing about
- 20:45Speaker 1: a home invasion, Your home is where you feel safe.
- 20:49Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's where you know your your family
- 20:52Speaker 1: is and you feel like that, you know you're secure
- 20:55Speaker 1: from everything, And to come into somebody's home at that
- 20:57Speaker 1: time of the night to be shot there, I mean,
- 21:00Speaker 1: it just shows just to me a special kind of
- 21:03Speaker 1: evil and to be definitely not what we would Here
- 21:07Speaker 1: is the model prisoner, model inmate with ninety nine infractions.
- 21:12Speaker 1: And believe me, as somebody who's been gearing arrest and
- 21:15Speaker 1: spitting their face probably two dozen times, that's not a
- 21:19Speaker 1: pleasant experience either. Do you ever get spent on, Chris, Yeah,
- 21:22Speaker 1: at least at least two dozen times during my twenty
- 21:25Speaker 1: five years. Okay, I didn't get spit on in all
- 21:28Speaker 1: the years I was a prosecutor or a fed But
- 21:31Speaker 1: can I tell you how many I don't even know
- 21:34Speaker 1: how many times my car got the windows broken in
- 21:37Speaker 1: or the tires slit while I was at the courthouse
- 21:39Speaker 1: trying a case. During one murder trial, somebody stole my
- 21:42Speaker 1: cell phone out of the court room where it was charging.
- 21:45Speaker 1: But I had my car broken into, not to take anything,
- 21:50Speaker 1: just to vandalize me for trying the case. And so
- 21:54Speaker 1: many times I memorized I had memorized the number four.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I think it was doctor Glass and my tire slit
- 22:02Speaker 1: so many times I had memorized the name of somebody
- 22:05Speaker 1: to come helped me change the tire in the middle
- 22:07Speaker 1: of the night if I needed help, you know. That's
- 22:12Speaker 1: that's what I got triple A then when I was
- 22:15Speaker 1: a prosecutor, because I have a tire slit so many times.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Didn't ever get spit on, But I remember I'd come
- 22:22Speaker 1: out of the courtroom after a long day ago, all
- 22:24Speaker 1: the way to where my car was part for cheap,
- 22:27Speaker 1: like eight blocks away and the wind to be broken in.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm like, on top of everything else, that much less
- 22:34Speaker 1: getting spit on. I mean, Joory Cross and you're the shrink.
- 22:39Speaker 1: That is like the ultimate insult to remember a defendant
- 22:43Speaker 1: spat on a rape victim. Now I'm glad he did
- 22:46Speaker 1: because I got his DNA that way, But that said,
- 22:50Speaker 1: that's like the ultimate fu. Yeah, that's an invasion of
- 22:54Speaker 1: your person. And this judge let this guy out. Jory
- 22:59Speaker 1: the sense of vulnerability that they can basically hurt you,
- 23:04Speaker 1: they can touch you like that. Okay, he gets out
- 23:09Speaker 1: thanks to Judge Cornelio. I mean, why is she on
- 23:12Speaker 1: the bench in Texas, Andy Cohn, she went to NYU
- 23:17Speaker 1: and University of Chicago. What is she doing on a
- 23:20Speaker 1: Texas bench? What does she know about Texas? You know, Nancy,
- 23:23Speaker 1: we've had a complete makeover of all our judges in
- 23:27Speaker 1: Harris County. So this particular judge was actually a policy
- 23:32Speaker 1: analyst for a county commissioner, and she was instrumental in
- 23:37Speaker 1: our bail reform statute that changed everything in Harris County.
- 23:43Speaker 1: You mean no bail, I mean like letting everybody out
- 23:46Speaker 1: like a revolving door in that reform, pretty much the
- 23:48Speaker 1: revolving door at the courthouse. She was one of the architects. Hey,
- 23:52Speaker 1: you love something out, Andy, And no offense to the
- 23:56Speaker 1: public Defender's office. Everybody winds when they get the public
- 23:59Speaker 1: defender for free. Those people try a lot of cases.
- 24:03Speaker 1: But she was a federal public defender, so that's where
- 24:08Speaker 1: she's coming from. She identified he actually has the most
- 24:12Speaker 1: individuals out on bond of any felony district court judge
- 24:17Speaker 1: in Harris County. And this is not her first dog
- 24:20Speaker 1: and pony show that we've had to go on national
- 24:22Speaker 1: news to talk about. So this is just par for
- 24:25Speaker 1: the course. It's not an anomaly. How on earth do
- 24:28Speaker 1: you justify reducing someone charged with an egregious capital of
- 24:33Speaker 1: murder shooting a homeowner during a home invasion, killing them,
- 24:37Speaker 1: getting charged with another felony in jail ninety nine pages
- 24:42Speaker 1: of infractions? What on earth makes you think this person
- 24:45Speaker 1: is a good risk to rerelease to the public, And
- 24:48Speaker 1: now you've got another young girl that paid the price
- 24:52Speaker 1: for that decision. It defies logic. Speaking of this young girl,
- 24:58Speaker 1: twenty three year old Summrchester, take a listen to crime
- 25:01Speaker 1: online dot com'st Dave matt cut seventeen. Summer Chester has
- 25:06Speaker 1: an accomplished life with plans for an accomplished future. The
- 25:10Speaker 1: twenty three year old graduates from Lone Star College with
- 25:13Speaker 1: an associate's degree of Arts. She attends the University of
- 25:16Speaker 1: Houston and transfers to Texas Southern University as a senior,
- 25:20Speaker 1: majoring in business administration. Chester's ultimate goal is to become
- 25:24Speaker 1: an elementary school teacher. Despite her school schedule, Chester also
- 25:28Speaker 1: works as a customer service agent at best Buy. If
- 25:31Speaker 1: you ask her family, they'll tell you Chester's biggest accomplishment
- 25:35Speaker 1: is life itself. Summer and her friends are on a
- 25:37Speaker 1: quest to discover new and different restaurants. She enjoys playing music, dancing,
- 25:42Speaker 1: loves animals, and is even known for pulling a practical
- 25:45Speaker 1: joke or two. Well, I think of this young girl,
- 25:48Speaker 1: just twenty three. I pulled up her a bit last night,
- 25:53Speaker 1: and she's got a million dollars smile. She had a
- 25:59Speaker 1: million dollars smile before this p o s technical legal
- 26:04Speaker 1: term killed her. Take a listen now to our cut eighteen.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Somerchester died in January this year. The twenty three year
- 26:14Speaker 1: old died in a hit and run car accident caused
- 26:17Speaker 1: by Jonathan Vera, who ran a traffic signal. He is
- 26:21Speaker 1: now charged with manslaughter in the case. So where is
- 26:25Speaker 1: he now? Alexis terrest chick? Before I get to the
- 26:29Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty other cases like this one, Andy
- 26:32Speaker 1: CON's going to tell me about where is he? Jonathan
- 26:35Speaker 1: Vera has Judge Cornelio let him out again. No, he
- 26:38Speaker 1: is actually in jail. Now when is he going to trial?
- 26:41Speaker 1: And once he gonna go to trial for first his
- 26:44Speaker 1: first murder victim or his second manslaughter victim. I believe
- 26:47Speaker 1: he should be charged first for Silvano Cortez's murder since
- 26:51Speaker 1: that was in twenty seventeen and then this one will follow.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Although this is a manslaughter charge and that is a
- 26:57Speaker 1: murder charge, so there. I mean, he should have an
- 27:00Speaker 1: attorney who comes up with a pleadio for one or
- 27:02Speaker 1: the other. Let's talk about Zakias Guestone to you Andy Kahn,
- 27:08Speaker 1: director of Victim Services Avacacy Crimestoppers, who is Layla Steel.
- 27:13Speaker 1: La Sale was a twenty four year old mother who
- 27:17Speaker 1: was involved in a relationship with a defending guest Stone
- 27:21Speaker 1: and was trying to break it off. Guest Stone has
- 27:24Speaker 1: three prior felony convictions. He was also a registered sex offender.
- 27:29Speaker 1: He was out on seven felony bonds by you guessed it,
- 27:34Speaker 1: the three hundred and fifty first District Court judge whom
- 27:37Speaker 1: we've all been talking about today. He was also on
- 27:40Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. Listen to this. He was on bond
- 27:44Speaker 1: for failure to registers and sex offender, assault with intent
- 27:47Speaker 1: to mt breathing which is trying to strangle someone to debt, assault,
- 27:52Speaker 1: evading arrest fell and in possession of a weapon another
- 27:55Speaker 1: evading arrest. And now he's charged with the murder of
- 27:58Speaker 1: twenty four year old Laylist Steel and also shooting one
- 28:02Speaker 1: year old Zeus as well as a matter of fact,
- 28:05Speaker 1: take a listen to Melissa Korea Khou eleven are cut thirteen.
- 28:11Speaker 1: These are the many faces of Zachaeus Gaston, a twenty
- 28:14Speaker 1: seven year old whose criminal record is a decade long.
- 28:17Speaker 1: The Harris County DA's office describes him as a true
- 28:20Speaker 1: habitual offender. Harris County District Court records show Gaston's currently
- 28:24Speaker 1: facing seven different charges for crimes like assault of aiding arrest,
- 28:30Speaker 1: failing to register as a sex offender, and a felon
- 28:33Speaker 1: in possession of a weapon. Prosecutors have repeatedly asked the
- 28:36Speaker 1: courts to refuse bail, but even after reviewing public safety
- 28:40Speaker 1: assessments and all of the pending felony cases, magistrates continue
- 28:45Speaker 1: to set bail. In some cases, record show it's the
- 28:48Speaker 1: same magistrate then on Thursday, with a suspect having being
- 28:53Speaker 1: out on bond for seven major felonies, this could have
- 28:59Speaker 1: been prevented. Layla's Steele was shot four times while she
- 29:03Speaker 1: was carrying her son. Police say baby Zeus was shot
- 29:06Speaker 1: once in his leg during an argument between Layla and
- 29:09Speaker 1: Zeus's father, Schaius Gaston. Layla died at a hospital now
- 29:14Speaker 1: listen are cut. Fourteen port documents showed the steps prosecutors
- 29:18Speaker 1: took to try and protect Layla. They asked for a
- 29:21Speaker 1: protective order and an ankle monitor that would include geo
- 29:24Speaker 1: fencing to prevent Gaston from going near Leyla's apartment. And
- 29:28Speaker 1: even though the court acknowledges Gaston's past and threats he
- 29:32Speaker 1: made to Layla, a magistrate still set bail at thirty
- 29:36Speaker 1: thousand dollars. In April, the Harris County DA petitioned to
- 29:40Speaker 1: have Gaston's bond revoked because he continued to harass Layla.
- 29:44Speaker 1: A court decision is still pending. The motion was filed
- 29:48Speaker 1: April fifth, nearly three months before Layla's Steele was killed.
- 29:52Speaker 1: There's no way that that should have slipped. Where seven
- 29:55Speaker 1: felony bonds, A person was out and I feel like
- 29:57Speaker 1: my sister's blood is on their hands. You know where's
- 30:00Speaker 1: achas gassed in? Is called police. He's now facing a
- 30:03Speaker 1: murder charge in addition to several other crimes crime stories
- 30:20Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Andy Khan. How did he get out?
- 30:25Speaker 1: It's the revolving door at the courthouse. This is what
- 30:28Speaker 1: I call another victim of a Harris county bond pandemic.
- 30:32Speaker 1: I have now documented one hundred and sixty people who
- 30:37Speaker 1: have been killed by defendants released on multiple felony bonds
- 30:42Speaker 1: in the last few years. That's one hundred and sixty
- 30:47Speaker 1: people who were tragically killed. Yet it was so utterly
- 30:50Speaker 1: preventable because we keep spitting the same people out time
- 30:54Speaker 1: and time again. Who is Andy karn DeVante William Davanta?
- 31:00Speaker 1: Oh my god, this one really really chat me. I
- 31:03Speaker 1: mean Davanta. Williams is out on multiple felony bobs. He
- 31:07Speaker 1: has multiple prior convictions. He's been the prison several times.
- 31:11Speaker 1: So there's a police chase because he's wanted for two
- 31:14Speaker 1: aggravator robberies. And during the police chase, a horrific accident
- 31:19Speaker 1: and it costs the life of a mother. Twenty four
- 31:22Speaker 1: year old mother, Audrey Davis, died in the accident. Now,
- 31:27Speaker 1: Williams was out on multiple bonds. Now gets this. He
- 31:31Speaker 1: was out on two separate aggravator to assault with a
- 31:34Speaker 1: deadly weapon bonds. But here's the real rub of why
- 31:38Speaker 1: I was so irate with this. His bonds were revoked
- 31:42Speaker 1: as they should be, because it should be one bond
- 31:44Speaker 1: per customer. You're out on bond and you get charged
- 31:47Speaker 1: with a new case. You shouldn't be back out on
- 31:50Speaker 1: bond again. Those days are long over. So the bond
- 31:53Speaker 1: was originally eighty thousand, the judge reinstates the bond and
- 31:58Speaker 1: lowers it from forty to ten, and then on the
- 32:01Speaker 1: other agassault with a deadly weapon, it gets lowered from
- 32:04Speaker 1: forty to five. I have never seen a bond lowered
- 32:08Speaker 1: after you've already been revoked. That decision costs a twenty
- 32:13Speaker 1: four year old mother for life. Take a listen hour
- 32:16Speaker 1: cut five Fox twenty six. Twenty seven year old Davante
- 32:20Speaker 1: Williams violated his bond for aggravated assault with a deadly
- 32:23Speaker 1: weapon by picking up another aggravated assault with a deadly
- 32:27Speaker 1: weapon charge. His bond was revoked. But get this. Instead
- 32:31Speaker 1: of reinstating his bond with a higher amount, three hundred
- 32:35Speaker 1: and thirty seventh Colonel District Court Judge Colleen Guido lowered
- 32:39Speaker 1: it go from forty thousand to five thousand. So he's
- 32:44Speaker 1: out now on a ten and a five when he
- 32:47Speaker 1: originally had an eighty and a forty. What makes that
- 32:51Speaker 1: even more troubling is what a magistrate told the court
- 32:54Speaker 1: about Williams three arrust for aggravated cases. Quote, it's impossible
- 32:59Speaker 1: to bond conditions that could reasonably assure community's safety due
- 33:05Speaker 1: to the randomness of each act. Last Wednesday, Williams led
- 33:09Speaker 1: a deputy on a chase that turned deadly. Now you
- 33:12Speaker 1: have you know, you have a deputy sheriff that was
- 33:15Speaker 1: in the hospital injured. You have a mother of pooh dead.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I got a question, you know. First to you, doctor
- 33:22Speaker 1: Kimdall Crowns. We're talking about all these victims that are
- 33:27Speaker 1: killed by purps, that are released over and over and over.
- 33:32Speaker 1: But these are not just statistics, they're not just stories.
- 33:36Speaker 1: These are real people that end up in your morgue.
- 33:42Speaker 1: I mean, do you ever feel like there's no stopping it? Yeah,
- 33:47Speaker 1: sometimes it does seem like there's no insight. Now, always
- 33:51Speaker 1: find it interesting, one, individuals who obviously have violent tendencies,
- 33:58Speaker 1: who are already arrested and put in gail for something
- 34:01Speaker 1: and not necessarily convicted of it, yet are allowed to
- 34:04Speaker 1: be released, especially in these domestic situations, because you know,
- 34:08Speaker 1: these pieces of paper aren't going to protect someone from
- 34:11Speaker 1: someone who's already violent, and it's not like they're going
- 34:14Speaker 1: to follow the rules, So I always wonder why that's done,
- 34:18Speaker 1: because it does increase the amount of debt that come
- 34:21Speaker 1: through the morgue, you know, Chris Buyer's form police Chief,
- 34:25Speaker 1: John's Creek now PI and polygrapher Chris Buyers. I remember
- 34:30Speaker 1: so many times getting a case to prepare for trial,
- 34:34Speaker 1: typically a murder or a rape, and I would open
- 34:38Speaker 1: the jacket, which is the file, and at the back
- 34:41Speaker 1: of all the police reports and supplementals and crime WIB
- 34:44Speaker 1: reports and toxicology and all that would be the rash
- 34:47Speaker 1: sheet and it would be a mile long. Now for me,
- 34:54Speaker 1: it would just make me more angry, But for some
- 34:58Speaker 1: people it's debilitating because you feel overwhelm. It's like why bother? Yeah,
- 35:05Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. I mean I can't tell you how many times,
- 35:10Speaker 1: whether it was when I was on DUIs passports or something,
- 35:12Speaker 1: I'd stopped somebody with like rest of them for DUI
- 35:16Speaker 1: and they have ten twelve DUIs on the record, And
- 35:18Speaker 1: of course DUI is minor compared to what we're talking to.
- 35:21Speaker 1: We're talking about lives here that we're you know, basically
- 35:25Speaker 1: when we talk about that one lady that was killed,
- 35:27Speaker 1: the guy that had like seven felonies on him. I mean, basically,
- 35:31Speaker 1: three thousand dollars is what the price was put on
- 35:33Speaker 1: her life. And yeah, I mean you just see it
- 35:36Speaker 1: over and over. It's you know, ten percent of the
- 35:39Speaker 1: people that are doing ninety percent of the crime senior communities.
- 35:43Speaker 1: And it's very rare that you arrest somebody with for
- 35:46Speaker 1: a very violent crime that it's their first time out.
- 35:49Speaker 1: There's usually that rap sheeting. You wonder, how are we
- 35:53Speaker 1: even still here on the street talking And you, Doug Burnus,
- 35:56Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor, when you look at the rap sheet,
- 36:00Speaker 1: what do you What are the judges think this guy's
- 36:03Speaker 1: going to do when they have all these felonies, ninety
- 36:07Speaker 1: nine pages of jailhouse infractions? What was she Judge Cornelia's
- 36:15Speaker 1: thinking when she led him out? Then he was going
- 36:18Speaker 1: to show up at Sunday school the next morning. Now
- 36:20Speaker 1: you heard the context of this. This is a person
- 36:23Speaker 1: who has the whole ideological background of bail reform and
- 36:27Speaker 1: so on, and now she's on the bench. What I
- 36:29Speaker 1: can bring to the table is, in thirty five plus years,
- 36:31Speaker 1: I've never heard of a situation where somebody's bond is
- 36:35Speaker 1: revoked for committing another offense and then boom, it's lowered.
- 36:39Speaker 1: I've never heard of that, so obviously this is an
- 36:42Speaker 1: allier situation. You know, I would normally be reluctant to
- 36:45Speaker 1: use the term rogue, but I'll use it unhesitatingly. Rogue
- 36:49Speaker 1: judge to make these type of decisions. It's really disgraceful
- 36:53Speaker 1: and I'm just again I'm glad you're bringing it to
- 36:54Speaker 1: the forefront with this pound, doctor Jerry Craws enjoining me
- 36:58Speaker 1: psychologists faculties Leo University, consultant with the Blue Wall Institute.
- 37:03Speaker 1: It's got to be demoralizing for police officers because they
- 37:07Speaker 1: put the same people behind bars over and over and over.
- 37:11Speaker 1: It's like a joke. Yeah, it is a joke. It's
- 37:14Speaker 1: a force to the criminal justice system. You know, there's
- 37:18Speaker 1: so many safeguards that have been built into the system
- 37:23Speaker 1: over the years, and it appears that she's abandoned them.
- 37:26Speaker 1: You know, like here in Florida, we have risk assessments
- 37:29Speaker 1: that are done on violence of senators and can be
- 37:31Speaker 1: offered in mind hearings, you know, so the judge knows
- 37:35Speaker 1: what's the chances of them repeating. Well, I mean, I'm
- 37:38Speaker 1: glad that you have that there, doctor Joy, But I
- 37:42Speaker 1: mean when I look at somebody's rap sheet. I don't
- 37:44Speaker 1: need a risk assessment to tell me when they've gotten
- 37:48Speaker 1: ninety nine infractions behind bars. They've got a rap sheet
- 37:51Speaker 1: as long as I seventy five. When you don't know
- 37:54Speaker 1: a horse, look at his track record. It's really just
- 37:58Speaker 1: that simple. Sure, if you want to predict past behavior
- 38:04Speaker 1: is violent and aggressive, deadly. This is a case that
- 38:08Speaker 1: has me very, very upset because it reminds me of
- 38:11Speaker 1: my mother. Take a listen to our cut six sin
- 38:15Speaker 1: is Micah Hatfield with Katie Rk ABC thirteen. My mom
- 38:19Speaker 1: was eighty years old. She was disabled, you know, she
- 38:23Speaker 1: shuffled with the cane, and she's the prototypical grandmother, you know,
- 38:28Speaker 1: reading glasses down on her nose, knitting needles by the
- 38:32Speaker 1: side of a rocking chair, A mother of three, grandmother
- 38:35Speaker 1: of six. Rosalie Cook was three minutes from home at
- 38:38Speaker 1: Walgreen's and guest in South Bray's Wood Boulevard to buy
- 38:41Speaker 1: a card one year ago. As she headed towards her
- 38:44Speaker 1: car in the parking lot to go home, Rosalie was
- 38:47Speaker 1: stabbed to death by Randy Lewis. The system failed my
- 38:52Speaker 1: mom in a number of ways. Lewis was what's often
- 38:56Speaker 1: referred to as a career criminal. The thirty eight year
- 38:59Speaker 1: old had been arrested sixty seven times and was out
- 39:02Speaker 1: on two personal recognisance bonds in Harris County. Court records
- 39:06Speaker 1: show he was released from an extended stay at a
- 39:09Speaker 1: mental health facility to a group home on May first.
- 39:12Speaker 1: On May fifteenth is when Rosalie was killed. When police responded,
- 39:17Speaker 1: officers shot and killed Lewis. I'm going to do something
- 39:21Speaker 1: that I was disallowed to do at trial when I
- 39:25Speaker 1: would argue to a jury enclosing argument. Think about these cases.
- 39:31Speaker 1: Think about twenty three year old Somerchester, her whole life
- 39:35Speaker 1: in front of her. What if that was your daughter?
- 39:41Speaker 1: Think about Sylvana Cortez. What if that was your husband
- 39:46Speaker 1: or your wife lying in bed next to you and
- 39:50Speaker 1: you hear splintering of the door and then gunshots and
- 39:52Speaker 1: then suddlely, your spouse is dead. Just like that. About
- 40:00Speaker 1: this young mom who goes over and over trying to
- 40:04Speaker 1: get protection from an abuser, and he keeps getting out
- 40:08Speaker 1: of jail, and now she's dead. And finally this grandma
- 40:13Speaker 1: eighty years old going to Walgreen's to buy a card,
- 40:17Speaker 1: stabbed dead by a career criminal that some judge let go.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Judge Natalia Cornelio, I pray to God you're listening. Goodbye, friend,