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- 0:01[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_01]: I should be recovering.
- 0:31[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just like, they are so much to do this a little time.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_01]: I got it early and I did my five.
- 0:42[SPEAKER_01]: point eighty six miles for the morning.
- 0:46[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the challenge group and Nike challenge group.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_01]: Walkers group with twelve other people for one group.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_01]: Baylor from BTG for president podcast is beating me by like I think three miles.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_01]: I really feel like he'd be wearing his thing all day.
- 1:10[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how he's getting his mileage in.
- 1:12[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, you could do it however you want to do it.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I might go somewhere else today and do another walk.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_01]: But Drake made a thirty nine miles before a thirty nine for his birthday.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in that group too.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_01]: And every time I run, I put it in my time in the chat.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all this commentary back and forth.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_01]: But the goal is to just be healthy.
- 1:44[SPEAKER_01]: And that should be everybody's goal to be healthier, to eat better, to hydrate, to take care of your body.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to feel good, you're going to look good.
- 1:56[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_01]: None of us are like near each other, so we're not meeting up to do this, we're doing it all on our own time.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have like a friend group and I want to get healthier, I think it's a great idea to do it.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: But any who, welcome back to where right with She-in.
- 2:15[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say this is episode nine or ten.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_01]: Don't quote me.
- 2:22[SPEAKER_01]: You see the title.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about the culture decide on what becomes fashion or the designers behind the fashion houses.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: decide what is fashion.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_01]: Fashion is history.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, fashion history in college was taught to me by my professor and I respected it because how people express themselves.
- 2:50[SPEAKER_01]: Their home, how they had it set up and how they looked when they traveled, said something about that time.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been thinking
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: Who decides what is acceptable fashion?
- 3:04[SPEAKER_01]: Who decides what's the new look?
- 3:07[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the people who are everyday people in the city and the suburbs in the trenches or do they wait on designers to set the play?
- 3:21[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm just guessing today on where right-way shan.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: This is a podcast about style and fashion and all of the things in between
- 3:30[SPEAKER_01]: Um, as you know, or if you don't know, I have a background in design and fashion.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_01]: I just look part, but when I come to creating and expressing yourself like, that's a part of who I am also.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you can find me on IG, you can find me on Twitter, and you can find me on TikTok.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_01]: And um, this is a part of me, and that's why I talk about it on here.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm hopping into today.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing?
- 3:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna wear it right.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just get into it.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_01]: My body is so sore.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_01]: I just need a rubbed down.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna take a leave after this.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_01]: If we're gonna talk about fashion, we have to talk about culture.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_01]: Culture is the values, the aesthetics and the behaviors of the people based upon what they do where they live and how they want to express themselves.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_01]: The clothing in the past
- 4:42[SPEAKER_01]: and in other cultures still carries a purpose.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_01]: So like a big reason why I like Japanese fashion is because it always has a function.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: First it's efficient and it's well fitting for their body type.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_01]: So when it comes to clothing, having a purpose and holding the history of a time when something was originated, you can look at what somebody is wearing and get to know who they are, what they like based upon, how they're wearing it.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_01]: or what the look is for instance.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_01]: In the nineteen fifties we had our gift class looks now we have BBL bodies okay.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_01]: In the nineteen sixties we had mod looks hippy looks colors.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's make it a comeback.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_01]: In the nineteen seventies, we had wide leg pants, mini skirts, mini dresses, denim popping up everywhere, whether it was Wrangler, Levi's, what's another denim company.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_01]: There were so many denim companies back then, it was really rugged, different cuts.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_01]: and the nineteen eighties we had bold colors over the top fashion and fabrics and things that made sounds that we were athletic where was really big and the nineteen nineties we had the hip hop look versus the prep we look
- 6:16[SPEAKER_01]: Ralph Lauren versus Tommy Hill figure looks, colors, plaats, loose fits.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_01]: That's making a comeback now.
- 6:25[SPEAKER_01]: So it's always going in a circle.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: And some things are being reversed.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_01]: Some things are being with little add-ons, but for the most part, it's repeating itself.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_01]: And designers interpret what they see people do.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_01]: and how people wear things.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_01]: So if you look at fashion houses like McQueen, Armani, Chanel, Fendi, Burberry, the style is not really that complex, but their access to better materials are, the fit is more intentional.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: So the look looks a bit richer, it looks a bit fancier or expensive, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're doing something elaborate, right?
- 7:15[SPEAKER_01]: Socially, designers pay attention to people economically because they want people to buy what they're going to make.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_01]: They check low end stores to see what selling and they try to make a high end version of it.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_01]: They look at what teens are buying and they try to make something catchy that teens will convince their wealthy parents or their aloof parents to buy them.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: I was in this ice-green treat spot that I take the girls the other day and I saw this boy.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't be older than nine with some Balenciaga sneakers on.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at Disney kisses that head on and his little brother and I'm just like
- 8:01[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe he did something really good to have those sneakers.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, maybe it was a Christmas gift.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he wanted in a raffle.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but in my mind, I don't care how much money I made.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see myself justifying buying my child, Balenciaga sneakers and sending them to elementary school.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it doesn't make sense to me, but
- 8:31[SPEAKER_01]: teens can convince parents to spend a lot of money on high-end shoes.
- 8:36[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, a lot of the high-end designers are selling ugly, thick-looking shoes.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_01]: And they're selling because of the name.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_01]: They're selling because of the brand.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people crave influence.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_01]: And when fashion designers know people crave influence, that's where the trickle down theory comes into play, right?
- 9:00[SPEAKER_01]: and the trickle down theory in fashion is when the wealthy and upper class style spreads to the lower class.
- 9:08[SPEAKER_01]: You can make a lot less than what a designer makes, but still find a reason to buy a designer.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_01]: And there is also a trickle up theory where the lower social economical people find coins to push together
- 9:28[SPEAKER_01]: to spend on a shoe that's twice their rent.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_01]: Something that they had to save all year for, I want to buy this coat.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you get the coat, the thrill is gone because you just have the coat.
- 9:45[SPEAKER_01]: But it took you seven months to save up to get this coat.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_01]: Was it worth it, right?
- 9:51[SPEAKER_01]: I remember my first pair of what I thought was expensive shoes to buy was a pair of timberland boots.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember going to the mall with my brothers to buy the boots.
- 10:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember giving them the money and thinking, oh my God, I just spent a hundred and sixty something dollars on one pair of shoes.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I was still in high school at the time.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember getting the shoes home and just looking at them and I'm thinking like, that was a stupid decision.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_01]: I should take these back.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you go through when you spend your first amount of what is a large amount of money to you at that time.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_01]: right, and then later on, fast forward to now, spending a hundred fifty dollars on the sneakers is not really that crazy, spending a hundred and sixty dollars on some air maxes is not really that far fit.
- 10:56[SPEAKER_01]: Chines are just expensive now, but they'll want to spend the money on the brand matters.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_01]: So when it comes to like innovative creatives like Virgil who understood what people in life wanted versus the runway, he understood how to bridge off white and its popularity.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: he understood how to market that brand the right way and his items are still selling even in his death like they're still selling so it brings me into the question on how does inspiration work
- 11:32[SPEAKER_01]: Culture and fashion will always be intertwined in my opinion.
- 11:36[SPEAKER_01]: Being inspired by people are music and personal experiences that's normal.
- 11:42[SPEAKER_01]: I love thrifting and finding old influence to mix with new items and now most people
- 11:51[SPEAKER_01]: want practical items.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_01]: Most people want good basics.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_01]: Most people want a good quality white t-shirt.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_01]: Most people just want to keep their wardrobe neutral with like a pop of color or a nice pair of sneakers and they know what type of pants cut they want.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_01]: They know how they like their sweat pants to fit.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: They know how they like their jackets to fall on their body.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_01]: people are getting more into quality, finally versus quantity.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_01]: And we need that, the economy needs that, the environment needs that.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a lot of diversity among cultures where people are trying different fits and different
- 12:41[SPEAKER_01]: And so clothing sizes are getting bigger for those people who need bigger sizes.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's going to be excluded from fashion anymore.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_01]: And people are more inclined to try different brands.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_01]: Fashion is supposed to be fun.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_01]: It's not supposed to be
- 13:01[SPEAKER_01]: a place where people can feel discriminated on or something where because you're short you can't get into something where because you're too tall and they don't make this in and long you can't have you know people are getting more willing to try different things and collections are inspired by people and culture
- 13:27[SPEAKER_01]: So find your connection and create something new.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_01]: I think fashion always is going to, you know,
- 13:36[SPEAKER_01]: keep turning and coming back and leaving, coming back and leaving, but you can always add to history.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_01]: You can always put a different twist on something and I just don't want people to limit themselves when it comes to fashion and style or let a designer dictate how they can show up or express themselves and what they can wear.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_01]: Where would you want to wear?
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: But where what feels good on you and what you feel good in?
- 14:08[SPEAKER_01]: If you need a bigger size, get a bigger size.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: If you need a smaller size, get a smaller size.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_01]: If the shoe doesn't fit and it's really expensive and it makes your feet hurt, don't spend the money on the shoe just because of the brand or the name or just the state that you have it.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_01]: If you really don't care for the designer, don't support the designer.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_01]: But if you really just don't understand the aesthetic,
- 14:33[SPEAKER_01]: Then say I don't understand the aesthetic other people clearly love it because it's selling and just leave it alone.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_01]: But I really feel like people influenced designers, designers just have access to higher quality fabrics in order to make the vision look more expensive.
- 14:57[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my two cents on that.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for checking out where I was shin.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_01]: You could find me at shimmypotten.com.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_01]: I am so sorry, this episode took so long.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: I've been having a very... Well, it started off like this.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: I had the pressing beginning of June around my birthday, and then I got a little bit better.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: And then we are now into July.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the first episode of July.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_01]: There will be a second one.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing some traveling this month.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_01]: Some things have ended.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_01]: Some new things will be starting.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_01]: I might have some new sponsors for some of the podcasts.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_01]: And a few weeks I prayed for that.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_01]: I've been looking forward for that because I need more everything.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_01]: And not in a greedy way, but I just need creatively, I need to grow.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_01]: And I need more opportunity, and I've been praying for more opportunity, I've been praying to get more sponsors for the podcast.
- 16:06[SPEAKER_01]: So I can pour it into what I actually like to do versus just working and being irritated by work and not loving what I do for work.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_01]: So that's happening.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_01]: The girls are
- 16:21[SPEAKER_01]: enjoying their summer and I'm just preparing for them to go back to school.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_01]: And a few weeks like four weeks they're gonna be back in school and summer's gonna be over for the people in the south of the United States.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_01]: And every week and every other day is something from this government just that just makes you want to disconnect and go up into space and live because
- 16:49[SPEAKER_01]: what the hell is going on and who is okay and this stuff and I don't know it's just it's just a crazy time and I'm trying to find some balance and you know making sure I'm healthier praying doing my best and just not stressing about
- 17:11[SPEAKER_01]: things and people and making sure I'm not bothered by what I thought first is what is.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_01]: I needed that.
- 17:25[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, continue to look good.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to properly care for your linens that you wearing this summer.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all look good.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all bodies look good.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all moisturize.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm loving seeing the people in Paris.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_01]: and um in Milan just dressing their best and just looking nice and clean and refreshed for the summer y'all look good it is hot outside and to look good while it's hot outside it's an art
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to those who do it well, keep you some baby wives in some deodorant and Don't be afraid to get you a slouchy bag that's not clinging on you Keep your hands free.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_01]: I hope everybody in New York is using y'all nylon bags That can easily be cleaned and can get wet if it rains carry your small umbrella
- 18:22[SPEAKER_01]: all of the things.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_01]: Also, if you are on the trains in New York right now, in December time, it is Beth Honey, that he, that must, that stench, the whole platform being full of people, no air, like, sometimes it is better to walk the ten blocks than to get on the train and be suffocated until you get off and you walk up them steady.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just telling you, walk the ten blocks,
- 18:51[SPEAKER_01]: Catch a cab, but the reason why I was fit in New York, you know, for six plus years is because I would rather walk the ten blocks, the fifteen blocks, then to get on the train and stifle, okay?
- 19:11[SPEAKER_01]: The train is not clean, the train is not comfortable, the train be packed with people,
- 19:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know how many times I was on the E train and somebody was touching my butt and I had to just Not be bothered until I got off because it was just so packed with people you know how many times People had the nerve to be dancing at sixteen and while I'm trying to go to work like Listen
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Lord, for allowing me to have a house in a driveway.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_01]: I might only be able to get to him from a granny to go because for many years, I was a walker.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: For many years, I was taking the bus.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_01]: For many years, I was taking the train.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_01]: For many years, I was catching a ride with a friend for many years.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: It was Uber, Lyft, you know what I'm saying?
- 20:09[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he did it.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he did it.
- 20:13[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I'm gonna get out of here.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta go take me something for this body.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_01]: For his body.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for listening.
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- 21:04[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks again for listening and I hope you listen next time.
- 21:07[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.