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GLAM LADY REALTOR HIRES HIT-MAN TO OFF MOTHER-IN-LAW? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: You know all those jokes about people hating their in laws,
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Speaker 1: Well maybe there's a reason for that, you know. Let
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Speaker 1: me just put it on the record right now. Out
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Speaker 1: of all the years I have been with my husband,
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Speaker 1: never once was there a cross word between his mother
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Speaker 1: or his father and me. Not once. Can you believe that, Jackie?
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Speaker 1: You knows so many people hate hate their in laws.
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Speaker 1: I have the greatest in laws ever. Well, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: hear and that's not always the case. Let's start off
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Speaker 1: with who is lee and a Balman? I need to
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Speaker 1: get to know this woman. Listen, even when it's knowing,
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Speaker 1: it's still a beautiful blas live a Leak of the Ozarks.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's gorgeous. I'd love to sell the
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Speaker 1: house i'm selling to today. Okay, you're hearing just a tiny,
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Speaker 1: tiny little bit of lee Anne Bomban that's on her
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Speaker 1: Facebook post. Lee Anne Bouman is a very very successful
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Speaker 1: realtor in Lake of the Ozarks. You might want to
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Speaker 1: know where's Lake of the Ozarks. Well, it's beautiful. It's
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Speaker 1: in Missouri. I'm just trying to figure out. Wow, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at her and she almost looks too good to
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Speaker 1: be true. Long, beautiful blonde here, I mean way down here.
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Speaker 1: I would say it's almost to her belly button. She's
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Speaker 1: holding up one of those little pair of Hilton teacup
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Speaker 1: puppy dogs. Oh, she's holding up a magazine of the mayors,
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Speaker 1: all the mayors in the area, and they've all signed
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Speaker 1: it to her. Okay, I guess this is off of
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Speaker 1: her Facebook. But you know what, I don't know enough.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to more about lee Anne Bauman, Forty
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Speaker 1: three year old Liam Bauman is a well known, wealthy
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Speaker 1: real estate agent in Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri. Her
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Speaker 1: social media is filled with pictures showing herself with guns, speedboats, motorcycles,
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Speaker 1: and on old magazine covers in glamour shots. On her
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Speaker 1: Facebook page, Beauman represents herself as a realtor and artist,
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and a cheer mom. She frequently posts about
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Speaker 1: her track record of success, including appearances with the mayor
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Speaker 1: as quote first Lady of Lake Ozark. She's also an
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Speaker 1: art dealer, a professional speedboater, setting a world record during
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty race, and claims to have done work
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Speaker 1: in pharmaceutical sales as well as acting and modeling, citing
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Speaker 1: appearances on Days of Our Lives and Nike commercials on
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Speaker 1: her LinkedIn profile. My goodness, well, that's certainly a mouthful.
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Speaker 1: That was our friend Jackie Howard at Crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: Let me introduce to you an all star panel with
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Speaker 1: us Dale Carson, criminal defense attorney, former FBI and cop,
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Speaker 1: author of Arrest Proof Yourself. I don't think I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: like anything he has to say. Del Carson is joining
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Speaker 1: me out of Jacksonville. Doctor Jerry cross In, psychologist at
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Speaker 1: junct faculty, Saint Leo University. My Goodness, Research consultant, Blue
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Speaker 1: Ball Institute, author of Operation s o S Practical Recommendations
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Speaker 1: to help Stop Officers Suicide, coming out July twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, author, speaker, retired cop Undercover is the U
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Speaker 1: detective and author of twelve and Murdered. You can find
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Speaker 1: him at Stephen David Lampley dot com, but first to
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Levi page. You can
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Speaker 1: also find him at Crime and Scandal, True Crime Podcast
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Speaker 1: Levi Page. Just one question to you, one question, and
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Speaker 1: I know it's against everything you believe him to answer
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Speaker 1: with a yes or no. I heard just said that
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Speaker 1: this woman Liane Bauman refers to herself as First Lady
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Speaker 1: of the Ozarks. Is she married to the governor, a mayor,
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Speaker 1: a city manager, anything like that. No, I could tell you.
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Speaker 1: Just about to start talking again. So now let me
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Speaker 1: ask you a full on question. How does she position
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Speaker 1: herself as First Lady of the Ozarks. Well, she's a
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Speaker 1: very successful real estate agent. She would accompany the mayor
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Speaker 1: to various social events, knew the mayor personally. Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, is the mayor married? Whoa levi? He's divorced.
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Speaker 1: She's divorced. She's divorced. Okay, so interesting, all right, the
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Speaker 1: first Lady of the Ozarks. Let's see, guys, I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about a woman named Liane Bauman. Take a look at
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com. You can see her for yourself.
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Speaker 1: Very successf a realtor. How does a woman like this
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Speaker 1: getting mixed up in murder for higher murder for higher? Well,
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Speaker 1: let's delve into her mind a little bit more. Take
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Speaker 1: listen to more of the First Lady of the Ozarks
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Speaker 1: talking about guess what herself? Reason behind the art of
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Speaker 1: success its behimes? We trying to superstar. Three weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: four weeks ago when you bring me on high line
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Speaker 1: breaks down our losser, I was life presentive and not
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Speaker 1: so full where I'm so lucky and blessed. I thought
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Speaker 1: the one point seven million and next week and then
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Speaker 1: when two worlds set in these finals, is your local
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Speaker 1: female racial and is all times and just you know,
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Speaker 1: being a good leader of friends going to be burning
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Speaker 1: on the word betting four and not to sit him
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Speaker 1: because it is golden right out there. You know, wouldn't
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Speaker 1: feel good on my Okay, that was kind of hard
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Speaker 1: to hear. But that is the first Lady of the
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Speaker 1: Ozarks herself, according to her Liam Bauman, and she's describing
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Speaker 1: her business. I think that's what she's saying. Leaviy Page
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Speaker 1: helped me out here, from what I can tell, she
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Speaker 1: just said. She's saying that her racing sponsors helped her
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Speaker 1: win two world Championship race titles and she wants to
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Speaker 1: thank God for that. She says, she's like him blast
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Speaker 1: that she has been feeling empty and she prayed to
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Speaker 1: Christ and then suddenly she had a one point seven
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Speaker 1: million dollars deal the next week And if it's cold
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Speaker 1: and wet, you should come there because it's nice and
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Speaker 1: warm in her jaccuzi hot tub? How did Christ get
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Speaker 1: in that mix? You know? As far as I'm recall.
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Speaker 1: Let me go to you, Del Carson, veteran criminal defense
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Speaker 1: attorney for her FBI, former cop and author as far
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Speaker 1: as I know, and I'm certainly no biblical scholar, Okay,
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Speaker 1: certainly not. But the only thing I recall Christ owning
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Speaker 1: was a pair of sandals, and I've got a very
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Speaker 1: strong suspicion those were given to him. Um no home,
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Speaker 1: no jaccuzie hot tub, no one point seven million dollar deal.
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Speaker 1: So how does Christ? What is it? Defendants always drag
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Speaker 1: Christ into the mix, well to make you trust them, obviously,
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Speaker 1: But this is a bullet chick. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: whether you're familiar with that term, but they are hot,
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Speaker 1: twisted and deadly, and that's certainly what this woman is,
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Speaker 1: you know, hot twisted and deadly. You know what if
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Speaker 1: you think that is hotly, you know what power to you? Guys?
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Speaker 1: We are talking about um Lee and Bauman, and I
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Speaker 1: gotta tell you she's beautiful, but if Dale Carson is correct,
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Speaker 1: she's also twisted and deadly. Guys, take listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Leanne Bauman was married and going by photos and Facebook captions,
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Speaker 1: has at least two daughters, but she and her husband
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Speaker 1: divorced in twenty eighteen. According to court documents, Bauman became
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Speaker 1: concerned that her husband and his mother were going to
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Speaker 1: take her to court to fight for custody of the
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Speaker 1: children after she went to pick up her daughters and
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Speaker 1: they refused to go with her. And there is the
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Speaker 1: fly in the ointment. Okay, there is the gnat in
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Speaker 1: the punch bowl. It all starts with a custody problem.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Those of you just joining us,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about lee Anne Bauman from the Lake of
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Speaker 1: the Ozarks, Missouri. Well, this is not just about her
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Speaker 1: real estate practice. Take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com. Bellman blamed her ex mother in
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Speaker 1: law for the strain in her relationship with her daughter
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Speaker 1: and believed her mother in law and ex husband were
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Speaker 1: possibly going to court to get full custody of their
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Speaker 1: two children. Balman allegedly sent her children a text that
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Speaker 1: their grandmother would be dead. The children told their father.
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Speaker 1: When he confronted the ex wife about the meaning, she
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Speaker 1: reportedly said she just meant the grandmother was old and
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Speaker 1: was going to die. M okay, let's go back to
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Speaker 1: our panel with me Del Carson, criminal defense attorney, doctor
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Speaker 1: Jerry Krossen, police psychologist and author Stephen Lampley, former cop
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Speaker 1: Undercover Risk that you detective and author and leave page.
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Speaker 1: Let me go first to our psychologist because I think
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Speaker 1: I need to shrink right now. Says when do you
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Speaker 1: text your children and tell them Grandma's gonna die? That
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Speaker 1: just really shows the personality over under delusional thinking. Just
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Speaker 1: like what Dale was saying, She's very narcassistic and self centered.
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Speaker 1: And when you come from her high level of so
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Speaker 1: called wealth and then comes down to this fifteen hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars to pay for somebody to kill a person. You know,
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Speaker 1: you can't even get a decent car paint job for
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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars. That really stuck out my mind. This
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Speaker 1: small amount, I mean, you know it was doomed from
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Speaker 1: failure from the very beginning there. And it just goes
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Speaker 1: back to her personality that self centered, very important to herself,
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Speaker 1: and thinking that she could get somebody to do this
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Speaker 1: for this price amount of money. You know, doctor Jerry
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Speaker 1: Cross And let me ask you a deeper question, why
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Speaker 1: do people puff themselves up. That's actually a technical legal term,
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Speaker 1: Del Carson, is you're a veteran trial lawyer, because there's
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Speaker 1: a big difference in puffing yourself up. Puffing up your
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Speaker 1: reputation or your sales ability is not against the law,
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Speaker 1: is not a civil lawsuit. But if it goes beyond that,
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Speaker 1: and you're outright telling a lie to get pecuniary gain
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Speaker 1: or monetary advantage, then it becomes actionable. What is first
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Speaker 1: of you, Del Carson, puffing up? I know it doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound like a legal turn, but it is. No, no,
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Speaker 1: it is. It's odd. It's we say that we're a
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Speaker 1: lot more than we actually are. We're all that and
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Speaker 1: a bag of chips, when there is no bag of chips,
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Speaker 1: and people use that in order to lure people into
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Speaker 1: a trap of believing them trust is what they're really selling.
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Speaker 1: But it's fraudulent, as you know. Yeah, you know what
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Speaker 1: I've always noticed. I don't know if you've noticed this before,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, if you've ever been in the business of
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Speaker 1: looking for a house or an apartment, have you always
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Speaker 1: noticed the real tours. I come trudging in from the
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Speaker 1: room at the courthouse trying a case, and the realtor
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Speaker 1: would look so glamorous in like Chanel and dripping with
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Speaker 1: jewelry and driving a Mercedes or a BMW, and I'd
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Speaker 1: like pull up in my old beat up Honda. They
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Speaker 1: project a lifestyle and a success record, and I guess
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Speaker 1: that Dale Carson is right. That makes you believe in them, right,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, Well, Nancy, it does. It gives you a
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Speaker 1: sense of trust in them, that they know what they're doing,
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Speaker 1: they are successful, They've been around them blot more than once.
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Speaker 1: It does he gives that are that I'm the expert.
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Speaker 1: I can help you with anything you need and back
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Speaker 1: to you. Doctor Jorry crows In, police psychologist and author.
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Speaker 1: It's a deeper question in my mind whether it's from
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Speaker 1: faking your Facebook account. I was reading an article just
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Speaker 1: the other day, doctor Crawsen, where people actually fake, for instance,
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Speaker 1: taking flights on it jets and being on exotic vacations,
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Speaker 1: and they added all these photos to give themselves a
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Speaker 1: much more glamorous lifestyle than they really have. Why do
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Speaker 1: people do that, Well, it's to build themselves up. But
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Speaker 1: the real danger comes when it's the crash, when you
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Speaker 1: start falling down and something as simple as in her case,
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Speaker 1: where the daughters kind of either rejected her or there
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Speaker 1: was some kind of conflict with the mother in law.
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Speaker 1: And you see immediately her responses, I'll get somebody to
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Speaker 1: kill her. Well along that vein, You're absolutely correct, guys,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to this. Bauman asked a witness, quote,
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Speaker 1: do you know anybody? The witness reportedly thought Mauman wanted
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Speaker 1: to know where to get marijuana. Bauman allegedly replied, no,
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Speaker 1: I want to hit man. Bauman reportedly told the witness
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Speaker 1: she knew it was wrong and would go to church
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Speaker 1: afterwards and ask for forgiveness. The witness said she thought
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Speaker 1: about calling Bauman's mother in law to warn her, and
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Speaker 1: called her attorney instead. She said she was worried the
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Speaker 1: intended victim would call police. Reportedly, the witness believed Balman
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Speaker 1: was politically connected to the cops and she would get
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Speaker 1: the blame. That is so funny to you, Del Carson.
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you a funny story about do you
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Speaker 1: know anybody? And the person thought she wanted to get
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Speaker 1: hooked up with some marijuana. I have a connecting closet
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Speaker 1: to my son's closet that and that connects to his
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Speaker 1: room and his tech cave where he has all of
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Speaker 1: his computers and all his tech stuff set up. And
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Speaker 1: I was in there hanging up his clothes and I
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Speaker 1: heard him say, well, can you hook me up? I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven, he's only twelve and he's buying
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Speaker 1: a pot. How has this happened to me? He was
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Speaker 1: trying to get hooked. I kept listening, you know, of course,
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Speaker 1: to get all the evidence. He was trying to get
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Speaker 1: somebody to send him the homework questions because he couldn't
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Speaker 1: find them. I was so It's so funny to me
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Speaker 1: that the witness, Now this is reportedly all of it's
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Speaker 1: got to be proved in court. Of course, a witness
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Speaker 1: says that this woman miss it. The it girl of
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Speaker 1: Lake of the Ozarks says, do you know anybody? And
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Speaker 1: the witness immediately thought she wanted to get hooked up
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Speaker 1: for a big fat doobie, a blunt, but no, she
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Speaker 1: wanted something much more serious. Hit man, Joe Carson, what
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Speaker 1: do you do with the witness like that? Cry? No,
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Speaker 1: we don't cry about that. You've got to look at
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Speaker 1: the history of that potential undercover informant and what is
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Speaker 1: really critical in winning these cases is to determine what
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Speaker 1: was the relationship pre the recording. Was she working for
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Speaker 1: law enforcement? If she was, then this becomes an entrapment
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Speaker 1: case where the woman was tricked into doing all of this.
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Speaker 1: But that's the only potential team. I actually believe what
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Speaker 1: you're saying. Are you just putting Okay, okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: you may need to have a private session with a
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Speaker 1: doctor Jerry Crossing after this. That's between you guys. So
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Speaker 1: the witness says when she says, do you know anybody?
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Speaker 1: He thought this gorgeous realtor wanted to get hooked up
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Speaker 1: with some pot and the witnesses, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I need a hitman. Okay, listen to this. The night
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Speaker 1: Bauman allegedly met with the witness to discuss the hit.
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Speaker 1: The witness recorded the conversation. Bauman was told the hit
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Speaker 1: would cost about fifteen hundred dollars. Bauman responded, okay, that's
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Speaker 1: a reasonable price and would go to the bank for
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Speaker 1: the money. The next day, Bauman specified she did not
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Speaker 1: want her mother in law to be killed in Lake
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Speaker 1: of the Ozarks because of the text she had sent
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Speaker 1: to her children. Instead, Bauman told the witness she wanted
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Speaker 1: her mother in law to be killed at her house
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Speaker 1: in Hermann, and her death should look like an accident.
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Speaker 1: And take a listen to our friend Corey start at
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Speaker 1: kamoz St. Louis Emily. Drama escalates to a murder for
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Speaker 1: higher plot in Missouri tonight, a Lake of the Ozark's
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Speaker 1: real estate agent is in custody. Leanne Bowman is sitting
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Speaker 1: in the Camden County jail right now. Prosecutors say she
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Speaker 1: hatched a plan to kill her mother in law. She
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Speaker 1: paid people in Saint Louis fifteen hundred dollars. They were
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Speaker 1: expected to make the woman's death look like an accident.
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Speaker 1: A witness recorded a conversation with Bowman where she confirmed
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Speaker 1: the plot multiple times and explain she wanted her mother
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Speaker 1: in law killed in Herman. Prosecutors also say she texted
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Speaker 1: her daughter saying, quote, your grandmother will die Clime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, how does this very well respected,
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Speaker 1: glamorous first lady of the Ozarks realtor Leanne Baum and
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Speaker 1: dig herself out of this? You know to leave my page?
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Speaker 1: Climb online dot Com investigative reporter tell me what happened?
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Speaker 1: Jackie's telling me, the informant is a woman. Dale Carson
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Speaker 1: defense attorney is claiming the woman is the informant is
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Speaker 1: a paid informant. What do we know about the witness?
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Speaker 1: And is it true that the first lady of the Ozarks,
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Speaker 1: Leeann Bauman, this very successful realtor, was given several chances
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Speaker 1: to change her mind and back out of the hit
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Speaker 1: on her own mother in law, but she insisted that
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Speaker 1: it go forward. What do we know? Well, what we
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Speaker 1: know about this witness. It is a woman, and it
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Speaker 1: was someone that she at first was venting about her
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Speaker 1: mother in law with and then as time went on,
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Speaker 1: she said, do you know anyone? And the informant thought,
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Speaker 1: I thought she was talking about hooking her up with
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Speaker 1: someone that deals drugs, but instead she actually wanted to
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Speaker 1: hire a hitman. Pay a hitman one thousand and five hundred.
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Speaker 1: The woman said, yeah, I know some people. It'll cost
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Speaker 1: about one thousand and five hundred dollars, and Bauman responded
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Speaker 1: and said that sounds like a reasonable price and agree
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Speaker 1: to it. She was even asked multiple times are you
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Speaker 1: serious about this? And she said yes. She even said
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Speaker 1: that she, as a Christian, knew that it was wrong,
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Speaker 1: but that she would go to church and ask forgiveness
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Speaker 1: for this after it happened, after she blows her mother
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Speaker 1: in law's head up like a pumpkin, she's gonna go
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Speaker 1: ask for forgiveness, you know, Diale Carson, criminal defense Turney
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Speaker 1: joining me out of Jacksonville. Isn't it true that at
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Speaker 1: every criminal trial a standard jury instruction is that a
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Speaker 1: defendant may immediately regret the deed, but that does not
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Speaker 1: negate the intent at the time. Well, that's exactly right,
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Speaker 1: But of course we don't want the jury to know that, right.
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Speaker 1: We want the jury to believe. Well, we want the
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Speaker 1: jury to be successful in defending someone. You want the
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Speaker 1: jury to believe that the government is dangerous and those
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Speaker 1: strange things and can't be believed, particularly a witness like this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how did that conversation start with the will
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Speaker 1: turn the Dale Carson? No matter how you want to
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Speaker 1: twist it around, it started when Leam Bauman was fighting
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Speaker 1: about her mother in law about him which she hated her,
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Speaker 1: and the mother in law was trying to poison her relationship.
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Speaker 1: She went to go pay the two girls up and
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't get the car with mommy and mommy boiled
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Speaker 1: over and hashed a murder plan according to prosecutors. That's
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Speaker 1: right according to prosecutors, and they want to win a
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Speaker 1: case as well. So that's the difference between dispense and prosecution. Right.
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Speaker 1: They present it with their spin on it, and we
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Speaker 1: present it with our spin on spin and recording of
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Speaker 1: the woman saying that as a Christian, she's just going
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Speaker 1: to go pray it away. Well, do a couple of
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Speaker 1: Hail Marys and be done with it. Well, you've got
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Speaker 1: to get that information suppressed from the jury. You can't
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Speaker 1: let the jury hear that. Well may unless there's an
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Speaker 1: effort to suppress the evidence. And if that evidence is suppressed,
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Speaker 1: the jury won't hear it. And it has to do
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Speaker 1: with the credibility of the taping and the witness as well.
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Speaker 1: If that witness is not credible and the government was
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Speaker 1: somehow involved before they actually indicate on tape that they
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Speaker 1: were involved, and that changes the mixed altogether. And that's
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Speaker 1: one of the efforts that we defense attorneys try to
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Speaker 1: bring to the attention of the juries. You know what
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Speaker 1: I have found to Stephen Lampley, author or former cop
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Speaker 1: UNDERCOVERSVU detective, I think the jury hates nothing more than
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Speaker 1: a hypocrite, because I'm with them on that someone that
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Speaker 1: says that they were feeling quote empty even though they
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Speaker 1: were an award winning race driver and a glamor girl
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Speaker 1: and the first lady of the Ozarks felt empty prey
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Speaker 1: and then got a one point seven million dollar deal
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Speaker 1: and sends love from her hot tub. Jaccuzie. It's not
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Speaker 1: going to go over very well with regular working class
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Speaker 1: people like ourselves, where you know, growing up, seeing your
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Speaker 1: parents work double shifts over time to help you get
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Speaker 1: through school, and then this, and you think you can
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Speaker 1: plan ahead of time, refuse to back out when offered,
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Speaker 1: and then say you're going to just ask forgiveness. That
22:22
Speaker 1: tape is going to come in. Stephen Lampley Again, a
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Speaker 1: jury hates a hypocrite, Nancy. I agree with you, I believe,
22:30
Speaker 1: and of course the attorney knows better than I. But
22:33
Speaker 1: I believe that the recording will make it to court,
22:36
Speaker 1: and I think you should make it to court so
22:38
Speaker 1: that the jury gets a chance to see exactly what's
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Speaker 1: going on with this woman. Worse that remains to be seen.
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Speaker 1: Pacologically speaking, if I could jump in a statement where
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Speaker 1: she's going to go to church, that shows up. That
22:53
Speaker 1: closes the deal and just really justifies her behavior. Just
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Speaker 1: as long as I can go get my forgiveness. This
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Speaker 1: is a done deal. You know she's moving on, is this,
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Speaker 1: doctor Crowson? Yes, Doctor Crowson, It's like next, what's next?
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Speaker 1: I'm going to kill my mother in law? What's the
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Speaker 1: truth behind it? Leavi Page? Was the mother in law
23:15
Speaker 1: really interfering with custody of the two girls or did
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Speaker 1: the two girls just not want to go with mommy?
23:20
Speaker 1: Of course that would breaken my heart if the twins
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Speaker 1: didn't want to come somewhere with me. But I get it,
23:26
Speaker 1: but I don't think i'd order a hit on miss Lynch. Nancy,
23:30
Speaker 1: we don't know about the anything. All we know is
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Speaker 1: that she is divorced. She's been divorced since twenty eighteen.
23:37
Speaker 1: Well that's not a felony, Levi Page, So I don't care.
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Speaker 1: You have as many divorces as you want, doesn't matter.
23:43
Speaker 1: But Nancy, you know what's important about this is not
23:46
Speaker 1: only did she agree to do this hit, agreed to
23:50
Speaker 1: pay one thousand, five hundred dollars, she even gave this
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Speaker 1: witness a business card, her business card and wrote her
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Speaker 1: seventy four year old ex mother in law's address on
24:02
Speaker 1: the back of it. I can't wait to hear Dell
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Speaker 1: Carson defense lawyer right of Jackson explain that away just
24:08
Speaker 1: a minute now, anybody could write that on the back
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Speaker 1: of the cart. Is there been in a handwriting analysis?
24:13
Speaker 1: And look, more importantly, wait a second, now, emotion in
24:17
Speaker 1: lemony is going to prevent the jury everything. Hey, hey,
24:21
Speaker 1: don't throw around in Latin words that nobody understands. All right,
24:24
Speaker 1: all right, the court's not going to allow something that's
24:27
Speaker 1: not relevant. Emotion in lemony, and the anti file emotion
24:31
Speaker 1: and argue before the judge, before the jury. Here's the
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Speaker 1: evidence or opening statements. Even so the jury never hears
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Speaker 1: the evidence. You don't want it to come out and
24:40
Speaker 1: then try to suppress it. You file emotion in lemony
24:43
Speaker 1: ahead of time, so the jury never hears that bill
24:46
Speaker 1: being run. You can't unring a bell, all right? That
24:49
Speaker 1: is so right, That is so right. So you want
24:53
Speaker 1: what you just said, has there been a handwriting expert? Well,
24:57
Speaker 1: let's get a handwriting expert to back up the witness.
25:01
Speaker 1: And then how are you going to suppress it? Del Carson?
25:03
Speaker 1: You're just gonna take your lump and keep going. Well,
25:06
Speaker 1: of course, then you would argue that there is no
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Speaker 1: such thing as a proper handwriting outlets would be backed
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Speaker 1: up right, Well, you missed a bet. I can't believe
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Speaker 1: this deal, Carson. You could argue she wrote that on
25:17
Speaker 1: the business card because she was going to refer a
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Speaker 1: landscaper for her mother in law, or a babysitter, or
25:24
Speaker 1: a car appairment or a house painter. Well, what does
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Speaker 1: she write on the car Leavi page? Why am I
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Speaker 1: giving this guy any ideas Leavi page? What did the
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Speaker 1: card say? It was her business part and on the
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Speaker 1: back of it she wrote her mother in law's address
25:37
Speaker 1: or ex mother in law's address on it. Yeah, you
25:39
Speaker 1: know there's no telling what del Carson is going to
25:41
Speaker 1: do with that by the end of the day. Crime
25:54
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, here's another issue. So the
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Speaker 1: Lake of the azarcs it girl Liam Bauman, mom, she says,
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Speaker 1: cheer mom, mother of two real to her successful told
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Speaker 1: the witness she would go to the bank on Wednesday,
26:14
Speaker 1: but a day later she was arrested by troopers after
26:17
Speaker 1: the witness rated her out. Court documents say Bauman gasped
26:23
Speaker 1: and blamed everything on the witness, claiming the witness was
26:26
Speaker 1: a hustler who was trying to get money from her. Now,
26:31
Speaker 1: see don't you hate that Carson deal? Carson, But no,
26:37
Speaker 1: she's locked the defense into she's locked her lawyer into
26:41
Speaker 1: a defense strategy. The defense strategy now has to be
26:46
Speaker 1: that the informant is a hustler trying to get money
26:49
Speaker 1: from her, because that's what she blurted out to cops.
26:52
Speaker 1: You can't get around it. Well, clearly she is. And
26:55
Speaker 1: she's a liar, the informant not telling the truth. Okay,
27:00
Speaker 1: all right, here we go, guys. Her LinkedIn account mentions,
27:04
Speaker 1: acting modeling, appearances on Days of Our Lives and Nike commercials.
27:08
Speaker 1: And I will say this, Jackie, did you see her
27:11
Speaker 1: book in photo? She even looks good in a book
27:13
Speaker 1: in photo. You know, her eyeliners a little little little smeary,
27:19
Speaker 1: but she looks good. It's hard to look good in
27:21
Speaker 1: a book in photo. But Leam Bauman manages to pull
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Speaker 1: it off. Well, she's not the first, and she certainly
27:27
Speaker 1: Saatellite will not be the last to order a hit
27:30
Speaker 1: if in fact she did it according to Dell Carston.
27:33
Speaker 1: She didn't according to doctor Jerry Cross. And she's a narcissist.
27:36
Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley says she's a hypocrite. Levi page, Levi page,
27:41
Speaker 1: What do you say? Do they have any more evidence
27:43
Speaker 1: than the CEI? The confidential informant well Nancy to try
27:48
Speaker 1: to dispel the argument that this confidential informant was working
27:52
Speaker 1: with law enforcement too and trap her. When this informant
27:57
Speaker 1: was starting to feel guilty about this plot with LeAnn Bauman,
28:00
Speaker 1: she was going to call law enforcement and was going
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Speaker 1: to even call the mother in law, but she didn't
28:06
Speaker 1: want law enforcement to get involved because Leanne Bauman had
28:10
Speaker 1: connections with the local law enforcement there. So instead she
28:15
Speaker 1: called her lawyer, and her lawyer handled this for her.
28:20
Speaker 1: And the agency that is handling this is the Missouri
28:24
Speaker 1: Highway Patrol and they're handling it to avoid a conflict
28:28
Speaker 1: of interest because LeAnn Bauman is connected with so the
28:33
Speaker 1: witness did have a leg to stand on. Again, she
28:37
Speaker 1: won't be the first nor the last. Take a listen
28:39
Speaker 1: to this. Jones was having an affair with the intended
28:42
Speaker 1: victim's husband, who she worked with. She used the relative
28:45
Speaker 1: anonymity of the dark web to hire a company called
28:48
Speaker 1: Sicilian Hitman International to kill his wife. All from her
28:53
Speaker 1: quiet suburban displays apartment. But a network news organization investigating
28:58
Speaker 1: the dark web stumbled down to the pl and reported
29:00
Speaker 1: it to Woodridge Police. Without they're bringing this evidence to
29:05
Speaker 1: law enforcement's attention, who knows how this case would have
29:09
Speaker 1: ended up. She admitted that she had access to Hitman website.
29:13
Speaker 1: Investigators found evidence of Bitcoin payments and communication between Jones
29:17
Speaker 1: and the Hitman website on her laptop. There you go,
29:21
Speaker 1: another woman joining us out from Chicago. You were just
29:24
Speaker 1: hearing ABC seventy Chicago John Garcia describing Tina Jones having
29:29
Speaker 1: an affair with a co worker and wanted a hitman.
29:32
Speaker 1: Goes on the dark web two Sicilian Hitman International, which
29:36
Speaker 1: is clearly fake, and tries to pay a hitman through Bitcoin,
29:40
Speaker 1: and of course they would be hit of all hits.
29:46
Speaker 1: Dahlia Dipolito, listen to this. ABC twenty twenty. Terry Parker,
29:51
Speaker 1: investigative reporter for WPBF twenty five News, covered the story.
29:55
Speaker 1: So this guy Muhammed walks into the Boy and Beach
29:57
Speaker 1: police station and he says, I know a woman who's
30:00
Speaker 1: trying to hire a hitman to kill her husbands. She
30:03
Speaker 1: asked if finding someone who can kill her husband for her.
30:05
Speaker 1: The man Mohammed Shahati was recorded as he talked to
30:08
Speaker 1: detectives about his one time lover, Dahlia. To Polito, he
30:12
Speaker 1: tells police he's speaking out to save the man's life.
30:16
Speaker 1: He's scared for the gay. Yes, because she mean this
30:20
Speaker 1: serious song getting this gun. It's quite a story if true,
30:24
Speaker 1: because while he can describe Dahlias maybe five six five seven, dark, black,
30:30
Speaker 1: care should looking girl, really good looking girl. Actually he
30:33
Speaker 1: can't even tell cops her last name or her address.
30:36
Speaker 1: By the time, we didn't know what to believe. We
30:38
Speaker 1: were kind of, you know, weren't sure what we had.
30:41
Speaker 1: They had the reservations. They had to say, let's see
30:44
Speaker 1: some proof. To get proof, the cops make Mohammed a
30:46
Speaker 1: confidential informant. He arranges to meet Dulia at this gas station.
30:51
Speaker 1: Cops are staked out as their mystery woman arrives. And
30:55
Speaker 1: that's exactly what Dale Carson Criminal defense Trinado Jackson was
30:58
Speaker 1: saying that the say in this case, not Dollia di Poliito,
31:03
Speaker 1: not Tina Jones, but Lee and Bauman's case is really
31:07
Speaker 1: entrapping Bauman and it's out to make money. So you
31:11
Speaker 1: really think del Carson, the informant will do all this
31:16
Speaker 1: for fifteen hundred dollars. I mean that is amazing. You've
31:20
Speaker 1: got to admit I mean, fifteen thousand I can see,
31:22
Speaker 1: but fifteen no, I can't see that. But of course
31:27
Speaker 1: the individual here is making an effort to connect this
31:32
Speaker 1: woman to a crime. And who's more believable some woman
31:35
Speaker 1: who knows how to get a hold of marijuana sales
31:38
Speaker 1: or some woman who's the first lady of the osars. Well,
31:41
Speaker 1: nobody said the CI Confidential format could find the pot.
31:45
Speaker 1: She just assumed that's what Ballman wanted. And hey, that
31:47
Speaker 1: leads me to another question. If I asked Jackie here
31:51
Speaker 1: in the studio, hey, can you hook me up? I
31:53
Speaker 1: doubt pretty seriously Jackie would think I wanted to smoke adobe?
31:57
Speaker 1: You know. So why did this woman thy bomb? I
32:01
Speaker 1: just wanted to get her mits on some good stuff?
32:04
Speaker 1: Why is that? And it ain't over yet? Take a
32:07
Speaker 1: listen to Emmy. Emmy had been in a messy split
32:13
Speaker 1: with her husband, and at one point last year, a
32:16
Speaker 1: ranch hand working for her told police Emmy asked him
32:18
Speaker 1: to quote take care of her husband's girlfriend. He told authorities,
32:22
Speaker 1: Emmy asked him about quote, taking her out. He recorded
32:26
Speaker 1: a call in which Emmy asked, quote, if he knew
32:29
Speaker 1: anyone who could help get rid of her, nobody will
32:32
Speaker 1: miss her. The ranch hand told police investigators he believed
32:36
Speaker 1: Emmy was serious, and investigators also say when they searched
32:40
Speaker 1: Emmy's computer, they found she had searched for quote, how
32:44
Speaker 1: to get rid of the other woman for good. You
32:47
Speaker 1: know what's interesting too, So many things Doctor Jory Crasen
32:52
Speaker 1: book about to come out about stopping officers suicide. Doctor Crawsen,
32:58
Speaker 1: you hear a lot about wanting to kill the husband,
33:01
Speaker 1: kill the ex husband, But I've rarely seen a hit
33:07
Speaker 1: ordered on a mother in law, on a little old
33:09
Speaker 1: lady for Pete's sake. That just goes to show, you know,
33:13
Speaker 1: how she really tries to settle problems. I mean, just
33:18
Speaker 1: like they get rid of her, you know, not to
33:20
Speaker 1: deal with it. Let's go sit down, let's talk, let's
33:23
Speaker 1: do things at her, you know, logical and healthy. But
33:26
Speaker 1: she immediately moves to this, I'm just going to have
33:29
Speaker 1: her killed, and I'll make it look like an accident,
33:32
Speaker 1: and then I'll go to church and ask for forgiveness,
33:34
Speaker 1: and I can go sell more real estate property. That's simple.
33:38
Speaker 1: Another issue too, Leavi Page. I understand that she wanted
33:42
Speaker 1: to make the hit look quote accidental. What was the
33:46
Speaker 1: accident supposed to be? We don't know that yet, But
33:49
Speaker 1: when she was talking to this informant, she said that
33:52
Speaker 1: she did not want the murder to be carried out
33:55
Speaker 1: at the mother in law, the ex mother in law's
33:57
Speaker 1: leg of Oozar Combs. She wanted it to be carried
34:00
Speaker 1: out in another home, and that she wanted it to
34:03
Speaker 1: look accidental. And the informant said, we can make it
34:07
Speaker 1: look however you want it to be. They can carry
34:09
Speaker 1: it out in whatever mode you want it to be
34:12
Speaker 1: carried out in. You know, in the Dolly Dippolito case,
34:15
Speaker 1: the cops actually made the scene look as if there
34:18
Speaker 1: had been a murder and led the defendant, Dolly Dippolito,
34:22
Speaker 1: down the garden path, telling her her husband actually been killed.
34:27
Speaker 1: You know, this woman also refers to herself Leanne Bauman
34:30
Speaker 1: as a cheer mom, And now I know why I'm
34:32
Speaker 1: looking at a picture of her where they're two little
34:34
Speaker 1: girls dressed up in a cheerleader outfit at a ball field.
34:40
Speaker 1: They look pretty young to doctor Jerry Cross, And what
34:43
Speaker 1: effect is all this going to have on the two
34:45
Speaker 1: little girls. Oh, it's gonna be devastating to think that
34:48
Speaker 1: your mother tried to kill another family members. It's going
34:53
Speaker 1: to be very difficult to deal with. So, you know,
34:56
Speaker 1: isn't it true that at that age, doctor Craws and
35:00
Speaker 1: the girls are getting to be ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen ish,
35:04
Speaker 1: you're going to have mother daughter conflicts because they're starting
35:07
Speaker 1: to say things like no mom, and mommies don't like that.
35:12
Speaker 1: But she, instead of dealing with it and accepting that
35:15
Speaker 1: as part of a young girl growing up, wanted to
35:18
Speaker 1: kill the mother in law. I mean, I can't even
35:20
Speaker 1: think of violence befalling my in laws. About how the
35:27
Speaker 1: children are going to have to you know, they're going
35:29
Speaker 1: to go through this court case. This is going to
35:31
Speaker 1: be probably you know, a couple of years, and as
35:34
Speaker 1: the children grow, they're going to continue to be exposed
35:37
Speaker 1: to this and they're going to have to deal with it.
35:38
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to need to really be able
35:41
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk therapeutically with a professional. You know.
35:45
Speaker 1: Another issue Del Carson, criminal defense attorney, quote, do you
35:49
Speaker 1: know anybody? And she wanted a quote hit man, somebody
35:54
Speaker 1: to get rid of her. All joking aside, that's damning.
35:59
Speaker 1: That is damn mean for Lee and Bauman. Right, if
36:02
Speaker 1: it comes in, it's going to serve to acquire a
36:04
Speaker 1: conviction for the prosecuting side, and so you don't want
36:08
Speaker 1: it to come in, and you'll do what's necessary to
36:11
Speaker 1: prevent it. Right. The good news in this scenario is
36:14
Speaker 1: the mother in law lived, and now Lea and Bauman
36:18
Speaker 1: is getting exactly what she hated to start with. Her
36:21
Speaker 1: girls are spending even more time with the mother in law.
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Speaker 1: Will oh yeah, we wait as justice Unfalse Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: crime story is signing off goodbye to