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Hour 1 - If You Can't Dance · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 5: So we begin with Game five of the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 4: Is OKC gets it done?
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Speaker 5: They win by eleven points, final score one twenty to
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Speaker 5: one oh nine.
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Speaker 4: Thunder kneed just one more win.
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Speaker 5: They are one win away from an NBA Championship. So
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Speaker 5: first things first, and we'll get to the controversy here shortly.
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Speaker 5: Jalen Williams was fantastic forty points for OKC. Inefficient forty points.
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Speaker 5: It's not like you're back in the day Carmelo Anthony.
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Speaker 5: Forty points where he took forty eight shots, you know,
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Speaker 5: forty points, fourteen for twenty five from the field, three
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Speaker 5: for five from three, also sprinkled in six rebounds, four assists.
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Speaker 5: Great game for Jalen Williams. Forty Burger came up big
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Speaker 5: SGA League MVP. He was steady thirty one points, a
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Speaker 5: little more inefficient, a little inefficient, nine for twenty one,
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Speaker 5: but still thirty one, ten assists. He had zero assists
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Speaker 5: in each of the last two games, so ten dimes
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Speaker 5: for SGA. Now we gets to the controversy. That would
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Speaker 5: be ty Reese Halliburton had a very quiet game, only
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Speaker 5: scored four points, did not hit a shot from the field,
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Speaker 5: oh for six from the floor, including zero for four
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Speaker 5: from three. He did have seven rebounds and he had
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Speaker 5: six assists, but he tweaked his right calf and he
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Speaker 5: didn't make a shot in thirty four minutes, not one
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Speaker 5: shot from the floor, and he still played thirty four minutes.
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Speaker 5: So the controversy in the second guessing, we're looking right
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Speaker 5: at the Indiana Pacers head coach at carlysle He should
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Speaker 5: have played TJ McConnell more.
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Speaker 4: TJ McConnell should have been.
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Speaker 5: Getting minutes in the fourth quarter instead of Tyrese Halliburton.
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Speaker 5: Halliburton was not himself. He was banged up. He was struggling. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 5: TJ McConnell is just doing TJ McConnell things. He played right,
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Speaker 5: played for what twenty two minutes, scored eighteen points at
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Speaker 5: four assists. He was collapsing Okac's defense, he was getting
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Speaker 5: to his spots. Other guys were open because of this,
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Speaker 5: and Rick Carlisle stuck with Haliburton. And there's popular saying
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Speaker 5: you might subscribe to this thought dance with who brng you?
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Speaker 4: Okay, we need to amend this. You don't dance with
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Speaker 4: who brung you.
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Speaker 5: If that guy isn't healthy enough to dance, right, you
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Speaker 5: gotta go to Plan B. I'm all for dancing with
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Speaker 5: who brung you, but if they can't hit the dance floor,
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Speaker 5: you gotta dance with somebody else. That's the way it goes,
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Speaker 5: and that's what it was in game five. And listen,
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Speaker 5: I'll meet him halfway because I can understand the thinking
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Speaker 5: where you're like, hey, Halliburton is our guy. He's gotten
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Speaker 5: us here. Maybe he has a good fourth quarter, he's
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Speaker 5: moving around enough. You kind of just talk yourself into it,
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Speaker 5: and you're thinking, without having access to the results, you're thinking,
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Speaker 5: maybe he does turn it on. Maybe he has a
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Speaker 5: couple of assists, Maybe he has a couple of big shots.
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Speaker 4: But that was wishful thinking.
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Speaker 5: It just was not realistically going to happen based on
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Speaker 5: how you saw him play throughout the game. And so Carlyle,
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Speaker 5: he went with Haliburton, he danced with who brung him,
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Speaker 5: and he was let down. He was let down by Haliburton,
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Speaker 5: even though he will never say that. But he has
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Speaker 5: to be second guessing himself now that he has access
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Speaker 5: to the results. Are you telling me, Carlyle doesn't sit
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Speaker 5: there and think, man, I should have.
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Speaker 4: Seen that coming.
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Speaker 5: Halliburton didn't make a shot all night. Why would I
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Speaker 5: think he was all of a sudden gonna play great
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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. That was just not a great
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Speaker 5: decision by me. I'd be thinking those things if I
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Speaker 5: were him, He's probably thinking those exact same things. But
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Speaker 5: that was an opportunity missed. And the difference in the
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Speaker 5: game really is a couple of things. Williams who went
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Speaker 5: for the forty piece, It was all these Pacers turnovers,
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Speaker 5: my lord. Twenty three turnovers by the Pacers led to
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Speaker 5: thirty two points for OKC.
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Speaker 4: That is way too many turnovers.
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Speaker 5: But do you have over twenty turnovers in a game,
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Speaker 5: especially in an NBA Finals game, and it fuels the
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Speaker 5: other team's offense. That is, you're gonna get killed just
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Speaker 5: by that alone. And then it was also a huge
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Speaker 5: run in the fourth quarter by the Thunder. So the
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Speaker 5: Pacers they trailed by eighteen points. And I call them
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Speaker 5: the zombies of the sports world, and I mean that
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Speaker 5: in a complimentary way, where they just you think they're
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Speaker 5: dead and they just keep coming after you, like one
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Speaker 5: of those random movies where his guy's barely walk is
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Speaker 5: like and you're like, I don't have to worry about him,
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Speaker 5: and five minutes later, that guy just snuck up on
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Speaker 5: you and you're like, where did he come from?
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Speaker 4: That's the Pacers.
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Speaker 5: The Pacers are like a horror film where the zombies
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Speaker 5: just keep coming after you and they won't go away.
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Speaker 4: So that's what the Pacers did. They're down by eighteen.
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Speaker 5: They cut it to a two point deficit with eight
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Speaker 5: thirty left in the game, throwing down by two.
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Speaker 4: And then what happened.
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Speaker 5: There was an eighteen to four run by OKC right
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Speaker 5: after the Pacers got it down to two. Eighteen to
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Speaker 5: four run. It swung the entire game. It started with
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Speaker 5: a Jalen Williams three. Then Nemhard had a bad pass,
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Speaker 5: bad communication going on there, communication breakdown, and it led
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Speaker 5: to an easy bucket for OKC. That's what led to
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Speaker 5: an eighteen to four run. And during that run, this
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Speaker 5: is really hideous stuff. If you're a Pacers fan, you
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Speaker 5: might start vomiting here when I go over some of
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Speaker 5: this stuff. But the Pacers committed four consecutive turnovers, four
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Speaker 5: straight possessions, four straight turnover and it led to points.
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Speaker 5: Every time there was a bad pass by Nemhard led
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Speaker 5: to an SGA bucket and one he made the free throw.
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Speaker 5: Haliburton had a bad pass led to a Jalen Williams
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Speaker 5: layup Nemhard. Another bad pass led to free throws for
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Speaker 5: Jalen Williams. Another Haliburton bad pass. It led to SGA
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Speaker 5: free throws four consecutive turnovers in one minute of game time.
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Speaker 5: That's the other crazy. This happened in the span of
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Speaker 5: one minute. They turned it over four times and in
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Speaker 5: that span, this is what blows my mind. OKSEE led
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Speaker 5: by only two points with eight thirty to play. OKC
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Speaker 5: then led by sixteen points with five minutes left following
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Speaker 5: that run, That's what swung the entire game. And so
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Speaker 5: now the Pacers they lose back to back games for
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Speaker 5: the first time this postseason, and they lose back to
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Speaker 5: back games for the first time since March tenth. Think
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Speaker 5: about that, that's over three months ago. They haven't lost
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Speaker 5: back to back games a lot of those against some
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Speaker 5: of the best teams in the playoffs. Is the first
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Speaker 5: time in three months the Pacers have dropped two straight.
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Speaker 5: Crazy stuff. And the scary thing for the Pacers in
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Speaker 5: Game six, the series has not done yet and the
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Speaker 5: rest of the league is OKAC is the youngest team
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Speaker 5: to reach the finals in forty eight years. They're a
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Speaker 5: whisker away from winning it, and they are going to
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Speaker 5: be a problem for a long time. And I'm just
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Speaker 5: starting to get used to the NBA. This current NBA,
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Speaker 5: I think is very refreshing. This will be the seventh
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Speaker 5: straight year, whether it's OKC or Indiana spoiler alert, it's
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Speaker 5: gonna be okay see, but it's gonna be the seventh
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Speaker 5: straight year no matter who wins the finals, that we're
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Speaker 5: gonna have a champion. That's different. Seven straight years, seven different.
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Speaker 4: Champions, right. I like that. I think that's more exciting this.
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Speaker 5: NBA, where it's like, all right, okay, see wins the
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Speaker 5: title next year?
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Speaker 4: Who knows? Who knows gonna win a title?
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Speaker 5: That's more interesting to me than all right, okay, see
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Speaker 5: he's trying to rattle off three championships in four years
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Speaker 5: or you know, I just the dynasty stuff and the
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Speaker 5: repeat three peat champions. I'm just not as interested. Maybe
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Speaker 5: this is because I was so burned by the Calves
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Speaker 5: and Warriors that era. When they met in the finals
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Speaker 5: for four consecutive years, four years in a row, and
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Speaker 5: it was going into the next year, You're like, I
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Speaker 5: just wake me. When it's Caps Warriors in the finals.
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Speaker 5: You knew that was what it was gonna be. They
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Speaker 5: were so much better than the competition. I think this
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Speaker 5: current NBA is much more interesting. Seven straight years, seven
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Speaker 5: new champions and think think if there were one dominant
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Speaker 5: team and what that would mean for the league, for
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Speaker 5: the teams that have won a championship, and the ripple
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Speaker 5: effect from that point on. If you think about these
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Speaker 5: last seven years, Kawhi Leonard won a title with the Raptors.
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Speaker 4: They took down the Warriors. The Warriors were.
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Speaker 5: The best candidate to continue their dynasty, but the Raptors
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Speaker 5: lucked out and the Warriors were the walking wounded. Everybody
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Speaker 5: was going down. Kde went down, Clay went down. They're
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Speaker 5: dropping like flies, injuries galore. The Raptors luck out, they
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Speaker 5: won a championship. Good for them, but it would have
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Speaker 5: changed how you thought about Kawhi.
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Speaker 4: These teams and go for it mode.
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Speaker 5: Like the Raptors made this blockbuster move for Kawhi and
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Speaker 5: he had no interest in staying there. They still traded
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Speaker 5: for the guy. Imagine if that fizzled out, didn't work
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Speaker 5: out whatsoever. They won a title, and so other teams
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Speaker 5: saw that and they're like, oh wow, it worked out.
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Speaker 5: Let's be aggressive here. The Bucks won a championship with Giannis.
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Speaker 5: The Nuggets wanted to championship with Jokic, Imagine if there
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Speaker 5: was a dynasty in neither of those championships happened. Imagine
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Speaker 5: if Fiannis is looking for his first ring and Jokic
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Speaker 5: is still looking for his first ring. That's all you
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Speaker 5: would hear about, and it would be nauseating. Jokich is
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Speaker 5: a three time MVP, he still hasn't won one ring.
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Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. Lebron might not have a ring with
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Speaker 5: the Lakers. That was one of the championships in these
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Speaker 5: last seven years.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I like the spread the wealth NBA. And because it's
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Speaker 5: been so like dynasty driven over the years. You think
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Speaker 5: about the Lakers, you know, the showtime Lakers, the nineties Bowls,
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Speaker 5: the Spurs, it's been the Celtics back in the day.
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Speaker 5: It's been so dynasty driven. I think this is a
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Speaker 5: breath of fresh air. The NFL, it hasn't been. It's
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Speaker 5: been how could I say this. There have been dynash
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Speaker 5: but it hasn't been to the tune of NBA dynasties.
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Speaker 5: There's no NFL dynasty that won six championships in eight
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Speaker 5: years and Jordan takes off two of those years, right Like,
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Speaker 5: that doesn't happen in the NFL. It didn't happen like
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Speaker 5: even the Spurs, like rattling off championships to that degree
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Speaker 5: like the Spurs did, it doesn't happen in the NFL
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Speaker 5: like that Steelers won four of six.
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Speaker 4: It's probably the closest thing.
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Speaker 5: But the point is you haven't had the same dynasties
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. And so if a quote unquote dynasty
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Speaker 5: comes along, like it's the Patriots that win three of four,
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Speaker 5: that's like a whoa, this is a huge dynasty. That's
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Speaker 5: the way it goes in the NFL. There's never been
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Speaker 5: one three peat, not one. Think about all the three
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Speaker 5: peats in the NBA. There are way more than none
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Speaker 5: in the NBA.
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Speaker 4: So don't I don't.
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Speaker 5: Mind dynasties in the NFL as much like the Chiefs
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Speaker 5: were just going for a three peat. But I think
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Speaker 5: right there the Eagles winning it and spreading the wealth
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Speaker 5: a little bit, I think it's more interesting for the
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Speaker 5: league as a whole when the wealth is spread a
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Speaker 5: little bit like that. And the NBA they agree, otherwise
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Speaker 5: they wouldn't have put into place some of these rules
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Speaker 5: and some of these things like the reworked CBA, and
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Speaker 5: they have the luxury tax and the second apron.
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Speaker 4: You don't have to know any of this stuff. I
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Speaker 4: don't even know it.
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Speaker 5: But all I know, and all you need to know
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Speaker 5: is if you exceed that second apron, man, you get walloped.
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Speaker 5: You get a backhand right across the face, just smackol
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Speaker 5: Like draft picks are frozen.
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Speaker 4: There are all these penalties if you do that.
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Speaker 5: So you can't just load up on Superstar after Superstar
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Speaker 5: and just dominate the league. The league doesn't want that,
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Speaker 5: otherwise they wouldn't have put this into place.
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Speaker 4: I like it. I don't have an issue with it
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Speaker 4: at all.
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Speaker 5: But the whole point of this bringing it up is that, okay,
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Speaker 5: see threatens that if you're like me, you like a
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Speaker 5: little bit more of the spreading of the wealth and
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Speaker 5: you don't like predetermined, Like, hey, wake me up, and
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Speaker 5: Okayse's back in the finals. I don't think that's interesting
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Speaker 5: at all. And I don't think they're that dominant, and
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Speaker 5: I think the West is too good for it to
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Speaker 5: be that kind of landscape. But okay, c is gonna
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Speaker 5: be a problem for a long time, and it wouldn't
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Speaker 5: surprise me at all if they start rattling off championship
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Speaker 5: after championship. So if you like the spreading of the wealth, okay,
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Speaker 5: see threatens that, make no mistake about it. One went
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Speaker 5: away from a title could be the first of a handful. Here,
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Speaker 5: wouldn't shock me at all. All right, we are off
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Speaker 4: Loraina, is this my girl? Dua lipa?
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Speaker 2: You know it is?
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Speaker 5: I saw the other day. You might know this here
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Speaker 5: on top of current events, she's engaged.
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Speaker 4: My heart is broken. No, engaged behind my back? Oh
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Speaker 4: my gosh.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't it make you nauseous?
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Speaker 4: It does.
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Speaker 5: I'm completely nauseous right now. I couldn't even eat the
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Speaker 5: last couple of days.
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Speaker 2: That's what heartbreak feels like.
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Speaker 5: It's exactly what it feels like. You know, it's you
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Speaker 5: just you're moping around, like why even go on? What's
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Speaker 5: the point? That's how I feel. I don't even know
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Speaker 5: who this guy is. Have you heard about this?
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Speaker 4: This news to you?
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Speaker 3: Arene?
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Speaker 2: I had no idea.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's dated a couple boys recently, so oh really,
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Speaker 6: let's see if this one sticks.
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Speaker 5: That's bad when it's like I'm engaged and you're like,
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Speaker 5: let's see if.
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Speaker 4: This works out.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I'm not convinced yet, but I get it. I get it.
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Speaker 4: I might be hoping for a breakup.
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Speaker 6: It might be that'll make you feel better. Look at
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Speaker 6: you manifesting that. I thought that was only me who
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Speaker 6: does that.
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Speaker 4: No, you're not alone in that.
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Speaker 5: Great news here. So we have two comebacks one Joey Chestnut,
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Speaker 5: the goat that is right, the competitive eating legend. He
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Speaker 5: announced on Monday that he is returning to the Nathan's
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Speaker 5: Famous hot Dog eating contest. I don't even know why
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Speaker 5: they had an event last year. It's not even worth
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Speaker 5: doing without Joey Chestnut. When he's back, he's back on
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Speaker 5: the prow. He missed last year's event because of a
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Speaker 5: dispute with you can't make this up.
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Speaker 4: This sounds like something from the Onion. So there was
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Speaker 4: a dispute.
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Speaker 5: Last year with Major League Eating. It's really a thing,
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Speaker 5: oh the mL Oh yeah, Major League Eating. They were
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Speaker 5: bent because he has a sponsorship deal with Impossible Foods.
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Speaker 5: That's a company that makes plant based hot dogs, and
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Speaker 5: so Major League Eating was like, what plant based? What
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Speaker 5: the hell? So yeah, apparently, yeah, I don't want that.
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Speaker 5: But Joe Chestnut was like, yeah, I'll take your money
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Speaker 5: if you want me to be a spokesman.
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Speaker 4: I guess sure, sounds good to me. But he said
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Speaker 4: that he continues.
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Speaker 5: To partner with companies in the plant based space, like
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Speaker 5: Impossible Foods, but those relationship relationships never conflicted with his
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Speaker 5: love for hot dogs.
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Speaker 4: He's like, don't get it twisted.
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Speaker 5: Just because I'm promoting this plant based hot dog company
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Speaker 5: doesn't mean I've lost my love for true hot dogs
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Speaker 5: over here, all right, don't get that twisted.
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Speaker 4: So he's setting the record straight.
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Speaker 7: Well, Emily is a notoriously. I guess what's the word
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Speaker 7: I'm looking for. Not stingy, but overbearing with their athletes
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Speaker 7: and their sponsorship deals. Okay, they're athletes. That's a word. Well,
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Speaker 7: I mean that's why what's his name stopped?
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Speaker 4: Oh my god? Oh is it the dude that beat
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Speaker 4: Joey the one year Look?
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Speaker 7: He was he was the king of the hot dog Yes,
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Speaker 7: Kobyashi before Joey Chestnut and Kobyashi got banned from the
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Speaker 7: hot dog contest like you know, towards the you know,
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Speaker 7: towards the beginning of Joey Chestnut's rise to fame. Because
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Speaker 7: Kobyashi was doing other non sanctioned eating contests.
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Speaker 5: Uh huh, And mL is like, wait a minute, we
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Speaker 5: own you, yes exactly.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Wait, so he was doing like backdoor poker of hot
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Speaker 2: dog eating.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, basically, yeah, underground eating contest.
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's fantastic.
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Speaker 4: They're like, how dare you make a buck on your
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Speaker 4: own time?
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Speaker 2: Yep?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, overbearing. I like that, very stingy. But Joey Chestnut
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Speaker 5: is such a legend, sixteen time champion of the Fourth
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Speaker 5: of July Hot Dog Eating Contest, that the mL E
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Speaker 5: they had to buckle, they had to rethink their ways. Huh,
20:06
Speaker 5: like it's not worth it is not what.
20:07
Speaker 7: I probably saw the ratings of the last year's hot
20:11
Speaker 7: dog Eating Contest.
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Speaker 5: They're like, five people watched, we gotta get Joey back
20:16
Speaker 5: in here.
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Speaker 4: Come on, they made it happen.
20:20
Speaker 6: The first time I watched that, I remember it was
20:22
Speaker 6: like a Fourth of July party and I was I
20:24
Speaker 6: was kind of young, and I was like, is this
20:25
Speaker 6: really happening right now?
20:27
Speaker 2: Someone's got a puke, Someone's gonna puke, like, you know.
20:29
Speaker 2: The only thing I could think the whole time.
20:31
Speaker 5: That's my favorite thing about this stuff is the way
20:34
Speaker 5: they describe it. It's not that they do it, because
20:37
Speaker 5: that's disgusting, but they're not like, oh, he's vomiting right now.
20:41
Speaker 5: They call it loraina. They call it a reversal. That's
20:45
Speaker 5: their description for it. Yeah, they're like, oh, it looks
20:48
Speaker 5: like uh Joey might have had a reversal, right there,
20:50
Speaker 5: that's okay.
20:52
Speaker 4: Goodness, Yeah, yeah, that's what they call it. That's uh.
20:58
Speaker 4: That's kind of like the hot.
20:59
Speaker 5: Dog eating world's version of what horse racing calls euthanasia
21:04
Speaker 5: or no, no, what euthanized? Sorry, not euthanasia. They call it
21:08
Speaker 5: euthanized and you're like.
21:08
Speaker 4: What the hell is that? It means?
21:10
Speaker 5: Uh, there was a horse that had an injury and
21:12
Speaker 5: they had to put it out of its misery.
21:14
Speaker 4: That's really what it means. They had to kill the
21:16
Speaker 4: horse dead, and I.
21:18
Speaker 2: Feel like, once it comes back, you can't stop it.
21:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh youth. He was euthanized on the track.
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Speaker 4: Oh wow, youth?
21:26
Speaker 5: Was that you get like a shoulder rubber? There was
21:28
Speaker 5: that like a little massage? No, no, he was It
21:31
Speaker 5: was some lethal injection basically, Yeah, brutal. Another comeback Coop's
21:40
Speaker 5: former guy, you know when he pitched for the Angels
21:44
Speaker 5: and starred for the Angels show. Hey, Otani is back
21:48
Speaker 5: on the bump pitching for the La Dodgers.
21:51
Speaker 4: He made his return It's.
21:53
Speaker 5: Been six hundred and sixty three days since show Hey
21:58
Speaker 5: last pitched in a Big league game. That's right, the
22:02
Speaker 5: last time show Hey was pitching, he was in an
22:05
Speaker 5: Angel's uniform. It was way back in August of twenty
22:08
Speaker 5: twenty three. That's when he got banged up, and so
22:13
Speaker 5: he had surgery that September to reconstruct the ligament in
22:17
Speaker 5: his right elbow. Since then, he just joined the Dodgers,
22:21
Speaker 5: won NL MVP, earned a World Series ring light work.
22:26
Speaker 4: It's like, do you realize how.
22:28
Speaker 5: Legendary show Hey Otani is? That is what I was
22:31
Speaker 5: thinking about today. He's back pitching now. He wasn't pitching
22:35
Speaker 5: for the last you know, two years ish and as
22:41
Speaker 5: he just went out there and won League MVP and
22:43
Speaker 5: won a World Series ring, hitting home runs left and right.
22:47
Speaker 5: Like that's him rehabbing. He's doing all that while rehabbing,
22:51
Speaker 5: just so he can pitch. Also, it's insane. I don't
22:55
Speaker 5: know why it popped.
22:56
Speaker 4: In my mind.
22:57
Speaker 5: I don't know what I was watching years and years ago.
23:00
Speaker 5: Might have been MTV at the time, who knows. You
23:03
Speaker 5: ever scroll through the channels and see what's on MTV
23:06
Speaker 5: and you're like, wow, I remember when I watched MTV.
23:09
Speaker 2: Yes all, I just had this conversation yesterday. Right, yeah,
23:14
Speaker 2: I love the music videos.
23:15
Speaker 5: I miss the music videos. But now I'll just see
23:18
Speaker 5: whatever show. It's all shows, right, It'll be some newer
23:22
Speaker 5: show and it'll be titled something, and I'm like, I
23:25
Speaker 5: have no idea what any of this is anymore. I
23:27
Speaker 5: used to watch that all the time. Headbanger's Ball was amazing.
23:31
Speaker 5: Our little section metal videos actually got airplay.
23:34
Speaker 4: It was beautiful.
23:35
Speaker 5: But now they don't mess with videos anyway. It might
23:38
Speaker 5: have been MTV back in the day, but I remember
23:40
Speaker 5: Eminem talking about Doctor Dre's album The Chronic and at
23:46
Speaker 5: one point he was like, do you realize what you're
23:49
Speaker 5: listening to?
23:50
Speaker 4: He said it just like you realize what you're listening
23:53
Speaker 4: to right now. That's how I feel about show.
23:56
Speaker 5: Hey, Otani, when I'm watching this, dude, I feel like,
23:59
Speaker 5: do you realize what you're watching? Do you just realize
24:04
Speaker 5: what's going on in front of your eyes and living color?
24:07
Speaker 4: Right now?
24:08
Speaker 5: This is the best baseball player of all time? Now,
24:11
Speaker 5: I think best and greatest can vary. I think to
24:15
Speaker 5: be the greatest that Now you're talking like the accomplishments department,
24:20
Speaker 5: and he's he's well decorated already, multi time League MVP,
24:25
Speaker 5: World Series Champion. If he starts adding to that, adding
24:28
Speaker 5: to that, it's going to be indisputable that he's also
24:30
Speaker 5: the greatest baseball player of all time.
24:32
Speaker 4: But make no mistake, he's the best already.
24:36
Speaker 5: This dude is a phenomenal hitter, a very good pitcher,
24:40
Speaker 5: and he's just now getting back to pitching. So on
24:45
Speaker 5: Monday night he threw just one inning. This is light work.
24:48
Speaker 4: This was the plan. Just ease him in, ease him in.
24:52
Speaker 5: So we got a little bit of a freshly cut
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Speaker 5: audio for you. Here's how it sounded with show Hayes
24:59
Speaker 5: first pitch on the LA Dodgers Radio Network Shore.
25:04
Speaker 8: Hey Otani is on a big league bump. He's into
25:07
Speaker 8: his wine up and his very first pitch as a Dodger.
25:09
Speaker 8: His chop foul by Fernando Tatis Junior, strike one has
25:13
Speaker 8: us underway.
25:15
Speaker 5: I kind of thought would be funny if it was
25:16
Speaker 5: a ball. I didn't know what the pitch was, so
25:18
Speaker 5: has he. It's being described an AM five seventy LA
25:21
Speaker 5: Dodgers Radio Network.
25:22
Speaker 4: I'm like, and here we go. Here's the first pitch.
25:25
Speaker 4: And it is low and outside. All right, but he's back.
25:28
Speaker 4: But he's back. Now it's a.
25:31
Speaker 5: Foul ball, but you know, okay, okay, work, light work,
25:36
Speaker 5: but just okay for show Hey on the bump, Tatis
25:39
Speaker 5: Junior hit a leadoff single, a little blooper that dropped.
25:44
Speaker 5: Then there was a wild pitch from Otani. Then a
25:48
Speaker 5: rise singled and got runners at the corners. Machado with
25:52
Speaker 5: a sack fly so Otani got the next two batters
25:56
Speaker 5: to ground out, but just one ending pitch, gave up
25:59
Speaker 5: two hits, one earned run through twenty eight pitches as
26:03
Speaker 5: the Dodgers ease him back in here. But this dude
26:06
Speaker 5: with over two hundred and fifty home runs already, and
26:10
Speaker 5: he's back to pitching like it's just like his side hustle.
26:13
Speaker 4: His pitching. That's insanity, and the.
26:15
Speaker 5: Dodgers need him, make no mistake about it. They again,
26:18
Speaker 5: the injuries to this starting staff in this rotation, it's crazy,
26:23
Speaker 5: the amount of pitchers that they've had dinged up. So
26:25
Speaker 5: to get show Hey O Tani back as they ease him.
26:28
Speaker 4: In, that's a big deal for the Dodgers. And uh
26:32
Speaker 4: the hitting. Oh, by the way, you're.
26:34
Speaker 5: Right like now, that he's pitching in the hittings like, oh,
26:36
Speaker 5: by the way, he was two for four, hit a double,
26:38
Speaker 5: two RBIs walked, light work. You know, just three total bases, yawn,
26:45
Speaker 5: two ribbys, No big deal. This freaking guy is amazing
26:49
Speaker 5: and it's funny too. On the same day that show,
26:51
Speaker 5: Heyo Tani returned to pitching. His ex interpreter is in
26:57
Speaker 5: federal prison. That's a truth or EPAI miss you miss you?
27:02
Speaker 4: Hora?
27:02
Speaker 5: Is that he say it? Epay is something like that.
27:06
Speaker 5: Epay's in jail. That's all you need to know. Epay
27:08
Speaker 5: is in the federal pen and he's in Pennsylvania.
27:14
Speaker 4: Is that where the pen originated?
27:17
Speaker 2: Oh, in Pennsylvania?
27:18
Speaker 4: That would ends right, right?
27:20
Speaker 5: Is it the penn pen if you're in the pen
27:22
Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania.
27:23
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I doubt that's the
27:26
Speaker 4: the slang.
27:27
Speaker 2: Do you think he still calls him?
27:29
Speaker 5: No, I mean he paid my he paid my call
27:33
Speaker 5: show hey, and show Ay is like, yeah, I'm not
27:35
Speaker 5: answering that call. I could see Epay like, hey, you know,
27:38
Speaker 5: I just wanted to apologize for the five thousand time.
27:42
Speaker 4: Hope you're doing well.
27:43
Speaker 5: I heard that you're pitching again and everything's going great.
27:45
Speaker 5: You probably don't want to hear from me, it all.
27:47
Speaker 5: It'd be funny if he just calls him up in
27:49
Speaker 5: rambles for no good reason. You know, but you might
27:52
Speaker 5: be on a cold streak. If you're a sport's better
27:55
Speaker 5: and you've been on a recent cold streak, this will
27:58
Speaker 5: probably make you feel better, so miss Uhara. He admitted
28:02
Speaker 5: that he placed about nineteen thousand bets with a bookie
28:07
Speaker 5: over a two year period, and he accumulated over forty
28:11
Speaker 5: million dollars in debt.
28:13
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's what.
28:16
Speaker 5: Led to him getting busted. He's sentenced to fifty seven
28:20
Speaker 5: months in prison for stealing nearly seventeen million dollars from
28:24
Speaker 5: my time.
28:25
Speaker 6: That actually, that is a doable crime sentence, right, less
28:30
Speaker 6: than five years for that? Yeah, I think I could
28:32
Speaker 6: do that. Can I bid you money in an offshore
28:35
Speaker 6: account and no one touch it?
28:37
Speaker 4: You think you sign up for a five year stint
28:39
Speaker 4: just today?
28:41
Speaker 2: Yeah?
28:42
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I can knock that out. He didn't sound
28:44
Speaker 4: too bad.
28:45
Speaker 5: I would not want to do that at all, but
28:47
Speaker 5: I hear you, it's better than being away for two
28:49
Speaker 5: decades or whatever. I don't know what the maximum sentence
28:52
Speaker 5: could have been. But yeah, that's I have so many
28:56
Speaker 5: questions with this and ESPN did a great job. Bet
29:00
Speaker 5: like this, this was an ESPN investigation that revealed all
29:04
Speaker 5: of this, the wire transfers from Otani's accounts to an
29:08
Speaker 5: illegal bookmaker.
29:10
Speaker 4: I bet when when Epay hears just like.
29:13
Speaker 5: The dad, he's like he got found out because of
29:18
Speaker 5: this ESPN investigation, I would feel that way, my lord.
29:23
Speaker 6: But even the FBI, Yeah, right, ESPN investigation, that's trash.
29:32
Speaker 4: I want to know who.
29:33
Speaker 6: I gotta do a little bit of reason, Mark, whoever
29:35
Speaker 6: that was, you suck man.
29:38
Speaker 5: I got to find out who was on the prowle
29:40
Speaker 5: in this thing, and that's great investigative work. But man,
29:46
Speaker 5: if you're an EPAY, you probably have a different perspective
29:48
Speaker 5: on that whole thing. Man, oh Man, I don't know.
29:52
Speaker 5: Tisha Thompson. I remember her name. She was one of
29:55
Speaker 5: the main investigators because I remember her talking about this,
29:59
Speaker 5: so I know she was part of it.
30:01
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a crew.
30:02
Speaker 5: You're talking about major legwork to uncover all this stuff,
30:08
Speaker 5: and they did, and there were so many theories at
30:12
Speaker 5: the time. At the time, immediately I thought Epe is
30:15
Speaker 5: the fall Guy show. Hey, is Jennifer right this jackass? Bet?
30:21
Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case at all. I think
30:23
Speaker 5: Ipe was just a grade A jackass who was betting
30:29
Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of dollars, ran up a tab that
30:33
Speaker 5: was near forty million dollars.
30:37
Speaker 4: I think this is all Epe.
30:39
Speaker 5: I don't I take back my fall guy stuff.
30:42
Speaker 4: Altogether.
30:43
Speaker 5: They had wire taps, and there's just it's not believable
30:47
Speaker 5: that he's a fall guy. He's just a jackass. As
30:51
Speaker 5: it turns out, that's what he is. I wonder, how
30:55
Speaker 5: do you run up a tab for over forty million
30:58
Speaker 5: dollars and only deal seventeen million dollars from Otani and.
31:02
Speaker 4: Still have your arms and legs? You know.
31:04
Speaker 5: That's the other part of it was this just like hey,
31:07
Speaker 5: I'm good for like seventeen, and the illegal bookmakers like,
31:10
Speaker 5: all right, we'll call it good for now. I would
31:12
Speaker 5: love to hear all those conversations during that time.
31:16
Speaker 4: Wow.
31:16
Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy.
31:17
Speaker 6: It's not even hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands, right, millions.
31:22
Speaker 4: Forty million dollars?
31:24
Speaker 5: What there were like text messages exchanged. I remember when
31:28
Speaker 5: the story broke and one of them. Epay was talking
31:31
Speaker 5: to one of the dudes connected to the illegal book maker,
31:34
Speaker 5: and he was just like, I am not good at
31:36
Speaker 5: this at all, and he just kept betting. He knew
31:40
Speaker 5: he sucked at it, and yet he's still I don't know.
31:43
Speaker 4: I was just hoping it would work out.
31:44
Speaker 5: It's kind of like Rick Carlisle hoping it would work
31:47
Speaker 5: out with Tyrese Haliburton's calf injury in Game five. You
31:51
Speaker 5: know that's probably a bad comparison, but the connection is
31:55
Speaker 5: just blind hope. Epay is like, Man, I lost a
31:58
Speaker 5: couple of million over the weekend or whatever it was.
32:01
Speaker 5: I'll just keep firing away. Not my money, what do
32:04
Speaker 5: I care, right, just trying to get out of trying
32:07
Speaker 5: to get out of the red.
32:09
Speaker 2: Next time, I'm gonna hit it.
32:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, next time I'm.
32:12
Speaker 2: Doing I'm gonna hit it.
32:13
Speaker 4: I'm due one of these times, right, one of these times.
32:16
Speaker 4: It's going my way.
32:17
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, I've lost many sports bets over
32:21
Speaker 5: the years, and I feel good about not running up
32:24
Speaker 5: a tab even close to forty million dollars, I'll tell
32:27
Speaker 5: you that. And I wasn't stealing money from someone else
32:29
Speaker 5: who's way more wealthy than I am. But still, you know,
32:33
Speaker 5: it does make me feel a little bit better. It
32:35
Speaker 5: changes my perspective slightly over lost bets over the years.
32:40
Speaker 4: That's amazing. I hope there's a.
32:42
Speaker 5: Thirty for thirty on this whole thing in the not
32:45
Speaker 5: too distant future. There's got to be. Have you seen
32:47
Speaker 5: some of those Netflix documentaries. Some of them are pretty good.
32:51
Speaker 5: I saw the the Johnny Football one. I saw the
32:54
Speaker 5: Brett Favre one that was okay.
32:57
Speaker 2: I hope he tells his story. I want to know.
33:00
Speaker 4: I would I would love.
33:03
Speaker 5: If they could get both show Hay and epay and
33:07
Speaker 5: the Dodgers and the Illegal book Maker. Now we got
33:10
Speaker 5: something cooking here. My guess is I could get show
33:14
Speaker 5: Hey show A. He's all about head down right, like,
33:20
Speaker 5: I don't want any distractions. I don't want any of
33:23
Speaker 5: my business out there. Remember show Hey's famous for not
33:28
Speaker 5: wanting to reveal his dog's name.
33:31
Speaker 4: That was a real story at the time there.
33:34
Speaker 5: I think he was being announced as the nl MVP,
33:37
Speaker 5: and it might have been a zoom call or something
33:39
Speaker 5: like that, and they're like, oh, who's the cute dog,
33:42
Speaker 5: and show Hey's like, you know, back to business. They
33:45
Speaker 5: asked me baseball questions. He didn't want to reveal the
33:47
Speaker 5: dog's name. That's how private show he is. He's not
33:52
Speaker 5: going to be in a documentary anytime soon, but.
33:54
Speaker 2: If no one know that he was engaged either or.
33:57
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, you're right. He tried to keep that
33:59
Speaker 5: total under wraps. Yep, no doubt.
34:04
Speaker 4: But I'd be cool.
34:05
Speaker 5: With epay, illegal bookmaker. Maybe the Dodgers. We still got
34:09
Speaker 5: a good documentary cooking with that. You know, let's put
34:14
Speaker 5: epay and you know, like the orange jumpsuit, let's really
34:17
Speaker 5: do it. Let's put them in handcuffs. You know, let's
34:20
Speaker 5: really do this thing up here with this interview. I
34:23
Speaker 5: think we got something in the works here. I hope
34:25
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Speaker 5: Is that you'd like to I'm assuming that's ahead of
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Speaker 5: My gosh, I don't understand why some teams just insist
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37:05
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Speaker 5: things more difficult on ourselves.
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Speaker 4: So the Bengals stop me, if you've heard this.
37:14
Speaker 5: They are involved in a contract dispute their first round pick,
37:19
Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart, defensive lineman. He held out a mini camp
37:23
Speaker 5: due to this dispute. Now you might be thinking, hey,
37:27
Speaker 5: there's this rookie wage scale. The money is slotted, it's
37:31
Speaker 5: predetermined what these rookies will make. It's like, yeah, all
37:37
Speaker 5: of that is true, but that's not slowing down the
37:41
Speaker 5: bozo Bengals over here. They're arguing about contract language. So
37:47
Speaker 5: I read this nineteen times to try to understand, Like,
37:50
Speaker 5: what are they actually going for the even what's the
37:53
Speaker 5: goal here? So the Bengals want to include a clause
37:58
Speaker 5: that could void future gear guaranteed money in the event
38:03
Speaker 5: of a default.
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Speaker 4: Now what does that mean?
38:06
Speaker 5: This could include suspensions for on field or off field conduct. Okay,
38:13
Speaker 5: if our guy Shamar Stewart gets suspended because he does
38:17
Speaker 5: something bad off the field or he does something crazy
38:20
Speaker 5: on the field, the Bengals are like, well, we don't
38:23
Speaker 5: want to be on the hook for any guaranteed money.
38:26
Speaker 5: The obvious question would be, well, then why the hell
38:30
Speaker 5: they draft this guy in the first place, right, Like,
38:33
Speaker 5: if this is such a concern, why did you pick him?
38:37
Speaker 5: Because they're the Bengals. The other part is. The Bengals
38:40
Speaker 5: are also trying to protect themselves. If Shamar isn't available
38:44
Speaker 5: down the road due to injury, well then you can
38:48
Speaker 5: play this game like okay, Well, then why isn't every
38:50
Speaker 5: team in the league trying to do the same thing,
38:54
Speaker 5: because they aren't dumb like the Bengals are. Bengals are
39:00
Speaker 5: trying to avoid future guarantees in the contract, which is
39:04
Speaker 5: unprecedented in the rookie wage scale.
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Speaker 4: It's like these rookies are slotted.
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Speaker 5: To make X amount of money, and the cheap ass
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Speaker 5: Bengals are like, hey, if we could sort of kind
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Speaker 5: of finagle our way out of this future guaranteed money
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Speaker 5: just in case this might happen, What are you doing?
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Speaker 4: What are you doing? My lord?
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Speaker 5: I some of these franchises and they still haven't signed
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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson. He's not gonna play on the last year
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Speaker 5: of his deal. He's made that clear. All he did
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Speaker 5: last season was lead the league in sacks. Fantastic defensive player.
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Speaker 5: He's due to make sixteen million dollars this fall in
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Speaker 5: his current deal, which is peanuts compared to the top
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Speaker 5: defensive players, and the Bengals.
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Speaker 4: Are like, hey, why don't we sign T.
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Speaker 5: Higgins to a huge contract even though we're paying Joe
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Speaker 5: Burr and Jamar Chase, and now we have to have
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Speaker 5: to skimp on Hendrickson, and now I have to try
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Speaker 5: to avoid future guaranteed money with Jamar Stewart. They're dumb.
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Speaker 5: The Bengals are just dumb. I don't know how else
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Speaker 5: to say it. They just are all.
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Speaker 4: Right now coming up next.
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Speaker 5: This guy is good, but he hasn't quite reached rock
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Speaker 5: star status yet, so I don't know why we're acting
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Speaker 5: like he has