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Bill Riley on Utah Spring FB, Scalley bringing a lighter vibe, More strict NCAA rules on 'Ghost Transfers' + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: af am.
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Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show here on a Friday, and we're.
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Speaker 1: Lucky enough to check in with the voice of the Utes,
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Speaker 1: Bill Riley, who now is sometimes film host here on.
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Speaker 2: The Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 1: Bill, you knocked the rust off last Friday hosting a
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Speaker 1: whole show for me, and I came back to like
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Speaker 1: I anticipated a lot of praise on the text line
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Speaker 1: for your return.
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Speaker 2: How was it from your perspective?
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Speaker 3: It was fun. I mean it was like kind of
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Speaker 3: riding the bike and Wasatch Front Tia. I probably have
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Speaker 3: done now fifty seven remotes in my career at Wasatch
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Speaker 3: Front Killa up in August. They were great, And yeah,
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Speaker 3: it was it was it was. It's fun to pop me,
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Speaker 3: you know. I think there were a few people that
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Speaker 3: were a bit confused by the messaging the station put out.
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Speaker 3: I'm not back full time. I am simply shitting for
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Speaker 3: Sean when he goes out on assignment. But I do
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Speaker 3: appreciate you letting me sit in the airchair, and I
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Speaker 3: appreciate all the kind words from people, but I am
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Speaker 3: I'm more than happy to sit in from time to time,
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Speaker 3: but I do have a full time job that occupies
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Speaker 3: my Monday through Friday. So it was fun though, thanks
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Speaker 3: for letting do it.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like next Friday, strong chance that you'll get another
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Speaker 1: dose of Bill because we've got a PFL event in
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Speaker 1: Chicago and Bill Riley I think might make some free time.
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Speaker 1: So that'll be the next special edition potentially of the
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Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell Show. Right now, Utah spring football underway. It's
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Speaker 1: nice to see some practice the other day. Went up
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Speaker 1: there on Tuesday, and you know, this is this is
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Speaker 1: an interesting time for Utah football. And you can't really
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Speaker 1: measure vibes and you can't really put any kind of
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Speaker 1: number on atmosphere at practice, but one thing that was
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Speaker 1: very evident. And it's unfair to Kyle Whittingham to pretend
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Speaker 1: that he did practice wrong because his results would say otherwise.
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Speaker 1: But it's clearly different now. It's a little bit lighter,
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit more hyped maybe, and you know,
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Speaker 1: the coaches and players mentioned that there is a different
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Speaker 1: feel to practice, which okay, wonderful, great, What does that
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Speaker 1: actually do when we get to the fall if anything
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Speaker 1: in your mind, I.
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Speaker 3: Don't know if you can measure anything tangibly by the
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Speaker 3: way spring football should be exactly what that is. It
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Speaker 3: should be light, it should be fun. It should be
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Speaker 3: because because you're not determining anything in spring football, you
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Speaker 3: know you're out there, you're six months still away from
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Speaker 3: the season beginning, so it should not be life or death.
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Speaker 3: And I think that vibe is perfect for spring football.
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Speaker 3: You know, this spring is a little different than maybe
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Speaker 3: next spring will be because you're installing a new offense.
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Speaker 3: You've got a bunch of new coaches, as is always
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Speaker 3: the case in college football. Now I get a bunch
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Speaker 3: of new players, so I think it should be somewhat
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Speaker 3: business like. But I think the attack that Morgan is
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Speaker 3: taking is good. Those vibes that you talked about Sean,
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Speaker 3: which I've been able to be around kind of because
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Speaker 3: I work up there and on a regular basis, those
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Speaker 3: feel like they're kind of translating to the field too,
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Speaker 3: and everybody's got a really good energy about them. I
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Speaker 3: think it will probably change a little bit once you
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Speaker 3: get to fall practice, because then you're three and a
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Speaker 3: half weeks away from the season beginning, and you're a
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Speaker 3: little bit more focused on some hard and fast details.
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Speaker 3: But I think their approach they're taking is the right approach.
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Speaker 3: How that impacts the fall of the season. I don't
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Speaker 3: have any idea.
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Speaker 1: You and I talked last week about, you know, the
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Speaker 1: obvious questions that surround this team, offensive line probably being
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Speaker 1: the most obvious of them, but they're you know, the
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room looks good. We saw some big
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Speaker 1: plays made at the media availability at practice. The linebacker room,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, looks really really deep. Your trench play
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Speaker 1: is always going to be an incredibly important thing, whether
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Speaker 1: for the University of Guitar or any team in the country.
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Speaker 1: And one thing that if they're I don't want to
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Speaker 1: call it a criticism because it's more of a curiosity
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Speaker 1: for me. When you go out and watch, like the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, there's been a bunch of dudes
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Speaker 1: that you look at that field, they passed the eyeball test.
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Speaker 1: You're just like, oh my, gosh, look how big that
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Speaker 1: linebacker is. Oh my goodness, look at that defensive lineman.
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Speaker 1: Oh my, And that's a little bit less evident so far,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, does that matter well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it will eventually matter. I think
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Speaker 3: what matters most right now is figuring out who those
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Speaker 3: guys are and figuring out how. I've kind of equated
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Speaker 3: it to it being kind of a big puzzle right now,
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Speaker 3: especially on the offensive line. Jordan Gross has a lot
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Speaker 3: of really good puzzle pieces. But where do they all fit?
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Speaker 3: You know, guy like Kelvin obod is he definitively your
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Speaker 3: left tackle or might he begin inside and then eventually
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Speaker 3: slide outside? Does he play on the right? Does a
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Speaker 3: guy that's been, you know, a backup at guard for
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Speaker 3: most of his career, but he's been in the system,
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Speaker 3: he's four years developing physically in college football. Maybe he
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Speaker 3: slides outside because his body is more tackle like right now,
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Speaker 3: and he's got more college reps than some of these
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Speaker 3: younger guys. I don't know. I just I think physically
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Speaker 3: they're fine. I think athletically and physically they're fine. I
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Speaker 3: think in some of these positions that we talk about
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Speaker 3: offensive line a lot, just simply because there's five new
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Speaker 3: guys that are going to be starters this year. I
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Speaker 3: just think, right now, is that figure it out time?
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Speaker 3: And if you come away mid April. When practice ends,
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Speaker 3: having a pretty good feel for your personnel, then I
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Speaker 3: think you can hone in a little bit more when
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Speaker 3: Paul Camp begins.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't fully unsolicited, but it was something. It was
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Speaker 1: like a point that Morgan scally was going to make,
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Speaker 1: whether or not he was asked about it, and very
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Speaker 1: pointedly he looked at us in the eye on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: afternoon and he said, the number one positive so far
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Speaker 1: in spring camp has been Daniel Bray and complimented what
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Speaker 1: he did to change his body, his work ethic, all
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Speaker 1: of these things. He already looked pretty darn good when
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Speaker 1: we saw him integrated into the lineup last year. If
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Speaker 1: he makes a massive forward leap like Morgan is suggesting,
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Speaker 1: what does that do for the offense?
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Speaker 3: It's another weapon for Kevin mcgiven. I mean, he was
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Speaker 3: pretty dynamic, as you said. It's funny you say Morgan
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Speaker 3: said that. When we met with all the assistant coaches
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Speaker 3: and coordinators about a week ago, Mark Tuwaya brought him
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Speaker 3: up and Kevin mcgiven brought him up as well. So
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Speaker 3: it's not just the head coach, it's the guys that
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Speaker 3: are dealing with him on a pretty regular basis. He's
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Speaker 3: a dynamic, explosive guy. Now he's not the biggest dude. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's not gonna you know, you're not gonna put him
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Speaker 3: on the rack. He's not gonna be six feet tall
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Speaker 3: by the time fall begins. He's five foot nine and
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Speaker 3: a half. But we saw glimpses of his dynamism. Is
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Speaker 3: the right word dynamicism? Dynamicism?
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Speaker 2: I think it's a dynamicism.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll trust you. You're a very worldly and worthy man.
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Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's got a real possibility,
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Speaker 3: not just to be a gadget guy Sean, but to
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Speaker 3: be a guy that could have a really big role
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Speaker 3: with this offense. Because his speed and his explosiveness is real.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody had and way. Shawn Parker's
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Speaker 3: a fantastic back, but he doesn't have that burst that
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Speaker 3: Daniel Bray does. So to hear that he's having a
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Speaker 3: really good spring. Because we know what was Shawn Parker is.
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Speaker 3: We don't quite know what Steven chavaz Soto is yet,
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Speaker 3: but based on tape and what we saw from him
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Speaker 3: at San Jose State, he's probably a little bit more
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Speaker 3: of the physical pounding back. I think if you've got
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Speaker 3: that in Bray, then all of a sudden, you've got
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Speaker 3: three really good running backs that have three different skill
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Speaker 3: sets but one. I mean, you can never have too
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Speaker 3: much playmaking and explosiveness, So that has to be kind
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Speaker 3: of excited for Daniel Bray.
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Speaker 1: The voice of you is Bill Riley, our guest here
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Speaker 1: on the Sean O'Connell Show on a Friday. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we'll probably I'll beat this point to death. It is
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Speaker 1: such a unique scenario for Utah to have Devin Dampier
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Speaker 1: and Bird Ficklin in camp. They're so close to friends,
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Speaker 1: they're both being compensated well, and somehow it worked last year.
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Speaker 1: Somehow they both decided it was gonna work again this
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Speaker 1: year for each guy to be on the roster. And
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Speaker 1: of course Bird is younger, but there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys in college football right now, especially who scored ten
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Speaker 1: touchdowns as a freshman, who say, no, I'm not sitting
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Speaker 1: behind anyone. I'm not taking a backseat to anybody right now.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly how those.
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Speaker 1: Two would characterize the dynamic, but it's clear in watching
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Speaker 1: them develop together that they push one another, they help
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Speaker 1: one another, and I don't know how you find a
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Speaker 1: way to get the ball in both guys' hands effectively
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Speaker 1: and consistently in these games without it creating a strange dynamic.
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Speaker 1: Do we trust that Kevin mcgiven will be able to
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Speaker 1: do that?
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Speaker 3: Why? Here's the thing. I mean, it wasn't like Bird
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Speaker 3: Ficklin stuck around and didn't know Devin damp Pierre was
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Speaker 3: coming back as quarterback one. This wasn't some sort of
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Speaker 3: out of the blow. These guys are best friends. They
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Speaker 3: do everything together. Bert Fickland threw out the first pitch
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Speaker 3: at one of the Utah baseball games over the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Who was right there with him cheering him on. He
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Speaker 3: came out on a Saturday morning to watch his buddy
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Speaker 3: throw the first pitch out. I mean, I've got a
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Speaker 3: lot of good friends. I'm probably not gonna do that,
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Speaker 3: but that's what Devin Dampier did. These guys are tight,
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Speaker 3: and I don't think that Bird Ficklin has any sort
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Speaker 3: of thought that he's going to be winning the job
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Speaker 3: in fall camp. I think he knows what his role is.
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Speaker 3: He's quarterback two, but his quarterback two in a limited role.
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Speaker 3: Last year, as you just mentioned, he scored ten touchdowns.
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Speaker 3: He's now going to be a better football player in
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Speaker 3: year number two. And Kevin McGivern took the job knowing
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Speaker 3: he had not one, but two weapons at quarterback. So
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Speaker 3: along all the things i'm really excited to see with
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Speaker 3: Kevin mcgibbon's offense this year, near the top is going
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Speaker 3: to be how he utilizes Bird Fickland, because I can't
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Speaker 3: imagine he's only going to utilize Bird Ficklin situationally. Oh,
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Speaker 3: here's a series in the second quarter, here's a series
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Speaker 3: in the third quarter. He's too good an athlete and
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Speaker 3: too good a weapon. And he's back to what we
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Speaker 3: were saying about Daniel Bray. He's explosive, Sean. I mean,
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Speaker 3: as good as Devin is, Devon isn't explosive like Bird
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Speaker 3: Fickland is. So I think he's going to have a
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Speaker 3: defined role. You mentioned he scored ten touchdowns last year.
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Speaker 3: There's guys that are going in the NFL draft as
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Speaker 3: running backs and wide receivers this year that didn't have
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Speaker 3: ten touchdowns last year. He was a part time player.
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Speaker 3: I think his role gets bigger this year, and I
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Speaker 3: think he's going to have a very big impact on
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Speaker 3: the Utah offense.
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Speaker 1: There was a really interesting rule change proposed pushed through
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Speaker 1: to eliminate tampering and ghost transfers as they were characterized
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Speaker 1: by the NCAA. Now, if you if you have a
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Speaker 1: scenario where a player unenrolls, doesn't do the transfer portal thing,
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Speaker 1: but unrolls and then re enrolls somewhere else, presumably as
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Speaker 1: a walk on, but a walk on that has been
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Speaker 1: lured with nil, the Xavier Lucas scenario, the Jake Retz
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Speaker 1: laf scenario, although his situation was a little bit different
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Speaker 1: because he didn't have the option of coming.
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Speaker 2: Back to BYU. But it's I like it.
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Speaker 1: I clearly, I think it's an effort, an attempt to,
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Speaker 1: you know, send a message that hey, we're gonna suspend
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Speaker 1: your head coach for six games if this happens, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna find your school a really punishing amount of
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Speaker 1: the football budget. But the lack of attention to it
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Speaker 1: indicates to me that nobody really thinks that even if
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Speaker 1: a penalty like that were levied, it could actually be enforced.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Morgan Scally and his staff are
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Speaker 1: worried about the ghost transfer thing, are worried about tampering
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Speaker 1: with no transfer portal at the end of spring. You're
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Speaker 1: a little bit closer to it than I am. So
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Speaker 1: give me a sense of what you think of that rule,
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Speaker 1: it's enforceability, and how big a concern it really is
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Speaker 1: for this Utah team.
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Speaker 3: Well, I haven't talked to Morgan or any of his
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Speaker 3: staff about that, but that could be a fun out
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Speaker 3: of spring football between now and fall conversation, you know,
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Speaker 3: off air on air. I mean, I love Sean, I
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Speaker 3: love the rule. I mean, I think it's fantastic. I
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Speaker 3: want to see it enforced once, because it's one thing
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Speaker 3: to have the rule, you know this, It's one thing
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Speaker 3: to have the rule on the books. It's another thing
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Speaker 3: to enforce it. If you drop that hammer one time,
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Speaker 3: that will send the message. But having the rule and
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Speaker 3: never enforcing it, I don't know what that really means. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's a threat, but somebody out there is going to
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Speaker 3: test it, because we know somebody out there is always
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Speaker 3: going to try to get the edge, and somebody out
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Speaker 3: there is always going to say, well, yeah, it's all
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Speaker 3: the books, but they're not going to really do it.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to see it put into effect for
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Speaker 3: me to really believe the teeth behind it. But I
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Speaker 3: do love the I do love the idea behind it.
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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic because it's not just the financial punishment.
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Speaker 3: Let's say you find a million dollars is no chump
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Speaker 3: change in this day and age. Some schools have it.
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Speaker 3: But if you go after the head coach and that
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Speaker 3: head coach is suspended for four or six games without pay, well,
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Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, that's where you're really hitting it.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I love the idea of the rule. Let's
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Speaker 3: see if it ever actually gets enforced.
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Speaker 1: The LA Basketball transfer portal opens officially in four days
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Speaker 1: and there's already been some announcement that, you know, some
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Speaker 1: running utes intend to enter the transfer portal, both on
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Speaker 1: the man's end women's side. But Alex Jensen heading into
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Speaker 1: year number two, obviously he'll be a little more established.
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Speaker 1: It was not the year that he wanted, it was
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Speaker 1: not the year that the players wanted, and they're going
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Speaker 1: to have to make some waves in the transfer portal.
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Speaker 1: What does that look like for this running uts basketball program?
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Speaker 1: Because we know that nil and revenue share, that that
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Speaker 1: is a big part of people's decisions to either come
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Speaker 1: to your school out of a transfer or not.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it looks like, but I do
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Speaker 3: know to your point, they are so much better positioned
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Speaker 3: this year to go attack the portal, both financially and
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Speaker 3: especially especially preparedness. They have been. You know, Wes Wilcox
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Speaker 3: has been on the job now almost a full year.
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Speaker 3: He is a I mean, this has been his job
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Speaker 3: all the way through. It's roster management and roster construction,
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Speaker 3: and so I know that he and the staff have
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Speaker 3: been trending toward this for months now, but this has
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Speaker 3: been obviously Wes' job from day one. So they are
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Speaker 3: going I don't know what it's going to look like.
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Speaker 3: Nobody knows who's going to come, who's going to go,
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. But what I do know is their
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Speaker 3: plan and their attack because you know, conversations off the air,
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Speaker 3: just talking to the guys, they feel like they're in
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Speaker 3: a million percent better situation because they've been here one.
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Speaker 3: They're all on the job A year ago. At this time,
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Speaker 3: the staff wasn't completely in place yet, and Alex was
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Speaker 3: wrapping up his NBA season with the Dallas Mavericks. There
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Speaker 3: was a lot of stuff well, they also didn't know
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Speaker 3: what a season was like in the Big Twelve. Now
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Speaker 3: they know. I have Wes Wilcox on my podcast about
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Speaker 3: a month ago Crimson Corner, and he talked about it.
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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, we know we have to get bigger
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Speaker 3: and more physical, and that they know what a big
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Speaker 3: to what a good team in the Big twelve looks like.
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Speaker 3: So all of that is there. And I don't know
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Speaker 3: what their roster coming and going is going to officially
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Speaker 3: look like yet, but I do know as the portal
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Speaker 3: opens on Tuesday next Tuesday, the day after the championship game,
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Speaker 3: Utah basketball will be in a really good position to
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Speaker 3: go hard at what they need.
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Speaker 1: What is the what is the worst story you have?
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Speaker 1: The worst cost you paid for sleeping in extra long?
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Speaker 1: Like the Royals catcher Carter Jensen.
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Speaker 3: I almost missed a flight one for sleeping into too long.
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Speaker 3: But other than that, I've had occasions where when I
17:40
Speaker 3: used to do mornings, I would take a nap in
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Speaker 3: the afternoon and I would wake up and I would
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Speaker 3: look at my clock and it would say six am.
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Speaker 3: I was on at six am, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's six and am or six pm.
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Speaker 3: At six am, I didn't miss it. But my guy
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Speaker 3: Carter Jensen contention and contention for Rookie of the Year
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Speaker 3: in the AL made a rookie mistake that I'm sure
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Speaker 3: he will not ever make again.
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Speaker 2: It is what it is. Abs you like it, you
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Speaker 2: don't like it.
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Speaker 1: How do you feel, as we're now a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks into this being Major League Baseball?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. I just the way it's almost.
18:23
Speaker 3: You've watched tennis for years. Tennis has had this technology
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Speaker 3: in place. It's a quick review. Nobody's second guess is
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Speaker 3: it boom? It's there. Catcher taps his helmet, they look
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Speaker 3: at it. It's a ball, it's a strike, pitcher or batter.
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Speaker 3: They're the only ones that can do it. I think
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Speaker 3: it's been fantastic and it's gonna make umpires. I'm not
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Speaker 3: for doing away with umpires. I think umpires have a
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Speaker 3: tough job and they, you know, ninety five ninety seven
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Speaker 3: percent of time get it right. But I love the
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Speaker 3: fact that that technology is in place. It's a quick
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Speaker 3: review and you go from there. Hell, we had a
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Speaker 3: walk off the other day to City Orioles. The catch
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Speaker 3: for the Orient Chalice all the strike in the night.
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Speaker 3: It was a strike and boom the game was over.
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Speaker 3: So I like it. What about you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like how quickly it is in force to
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Speaker 1: the point that you just made. If it was one
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Speaker 1: of it, it was like a football review where you know,
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Speaker 1: you got to walk over under a hood or something
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Speaker 1: like that. Baseball's already long enough so and already slow enough.
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Speaker 1: But the fact that it's executed so quickly, I am
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Speaker 1: curious to see how it affects player umpire, you know,
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Speaker 1: league umpire relations moving forward, because you know, it's the
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Speaker 1: ultimate authority belongs to the machine rather than to the person,
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Speaker 1: which makes the calls more accurate and to the credit
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Speaker 1: of the umpires even when they miss. In all of
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Speaker 1: these reviews they're missing, it's like, oh, look at that,
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Speaker 1: he's an eighth of an inch off. It's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's I'm okay with that level of human error. It's
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Speaker 1: probably good that they're taking it out in the high
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Speaker 1: stakes baseball games. But I am curious to see how
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Speaker 1: that dynamic unfolds and evolves because of it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if an umpire C. B. Buckner keeps getting it wrong,
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Speaker 1: then he's a laughing stock in the league. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you can let him empire anymore.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's true. I mean this is where you've got
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Speaker 3: to do your job better. That's all there is. I mean,
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Speaker 3: like you said, the eighth of the inch not a
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Speaker 3: big deal. But we've seen umpires over the years give
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Speaker 3: you six or seven inches inside or outside or whatever
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Speaker 3: that might happen. The days of the We're going to
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Speaker 3: move this game along, big strike zone. I think those
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Speaker 3: days are over.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of baseball, you've got you got some Utah baseball
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Speaker 1: up there at Charle them on four Field and other
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Speaker 1: places that you're calling right now.
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Speaker 2: This weekend you got a series, right.
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Speaker 3: No, they're on the road this weekend. They played another
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Speaker 3: insane game last night. Unfortunately they lost. They gave up
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Speaker 3: four home runs in the bottom of the night. They
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Speaker 3: were leading twelve nine, lost fourteen to nine. Utah only
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Speaker 3: playsok crazy off the rails games. They came back to
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Speaker 3: be Kansas State on a cycle and a walk off
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Speaker 3: with home runs last weekend. They're on the road, but
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Speaker 3: they'll be back home in a couple of weeks. If
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Speaker 3: you've knocked been up, Sean, I know you've been busy
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Speaker 3: in traveling. You should bring the girls up. You can
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Speaker 3: sit on the berm in the grass, let them run
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Speaker 3: around whatever. The baseball stadium is spectacular, Charlie Montford Field
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Speaker 3: at America First Ballpark on campus. They've been getting great crowds.
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad they're not home today because the
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Speaker 3: weather isn't great, but it's been fantastic. So if anybody
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Speaker 3: gets a chance, they'll be home in a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for jumping on, Bill Awous, appreciate.
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Speaker 3: It, Sean appreciate you. Thanks for letting me sit in.
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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you soon.
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