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Brandon Spikes Reveals He Took Pay Cut From CFB To NFL + Recapping VIRAL Luke Combs Story | Bussin' · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: We're good. Bussing with the boys Hanging with the fellas
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  Speaker 1: Betting on a game No woman's gonna tell us What
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  Speaker 1: to do And I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Be over here.
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  Speaker 3: Just drinking beer and making that noise. Baby, I'm hanging
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  Speaker 3: with the.
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  Speaker 2: Fellas.
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  Speaker 3: Bussing with the boys.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 3: Bussing with the Boys. Episode 403 of Bussing with the Boys.
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  Speaker 3: Lots to get into. We've got some NFL news that
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  Speaker 3: took place, some big things happening with some of our
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  Speaker 3: sponsors that we'll get into. And then also, we had
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  Speaker 3: a nice little trip to Lubbock, Texas. Shout out. Lubbock, Texas, man. Lubbock, Texas.
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  Speaker 3: As always, Bust with the Boys, presented by the number
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  Speaker 2: All right, boys.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a big fight night coming up, and this
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  Speaker 3: that dude's got something to prove. So who's taking it
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  Speaker 3: in this one? We're riding with Volk. He's a friend
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  Speaker 3: of the show. Every single time we get a guy
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  Speaker 3: on here, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Sending in a blast.
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  Speaker 3: You got to feel it a little bit. You got
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  Speaker 3: to feel the headlock a little bit. I got to
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  Speaker 3: wrestle with Volk a little bit. If you want to
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  Speaker 3: put that in this clip, you're more than welcome to
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't give him everything I have, but I
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  Speaker 3: big fights. Volk, dude. Love Volk. I mean, what a guy.
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  Speaker 3: Right after we do the White House fight, we fly
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  Speaker 3: back that night. It's me and Volk in two hours
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  Speaker 3: of sleep between the two of us. And what a
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  Speaker 3: vibe that guy was, dude. He was incredible. Shout out
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  Speaker 3: to boy Volk.
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  Speaker 1: He stayed for so long.
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  Speaker 3: He did. He hung out forever, bro. How excited are
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  Speaker 3: you for Brandon Spikes to be.
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  Speaker 4: On this bus?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot wait for Brandon Spikes to come on, dude.
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  Speaker 1: He.
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  Speaker 3: is everything that's good with old school football. Just a
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  Speaker 3: dude that'll take your head off. And then obviously you
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  Speaker 3: and I were in the high school. We were in
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  Speaker 3: high school when like Florida was on that big rampage. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So like a lot, we were all kind of ingesting
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  Speaker 3: like that Tim Tebow and the savagery of that team.
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  Speaker 3: But then to have Luke Combs also come on, Talk
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  Speaker 3: about Brandon Spikes taking the dread from the fullback of
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  Speaker 3: his team and tying it around his wrist. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: I need to know everything. And he tweets yesterday, unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: What was the exact tweet he had? He's coming for
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  Speaker 3: all of you.
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  Speaker 2: Taking notes, dude. He's ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: He'll tell nothing but the truth. So help me God,
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  Speaker 3: he said. Oh, he put his hand on the Bible
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  Speaker 3: in front of the court. Said, all right. So he's
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  Speaker 3: got some, allegedly got some stuff he wants to let out.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't had him on yet. But he's, okay, you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to bring it down too much. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 3: totally fine. He'll be here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to dive in.
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  Speaker 4: For people that missed last week, we had on Dusty Slay.
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  Speaker 4: That was a phenomenal one. Cody, my brother, was texting
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  Speaker 4: all about Dusty Slay. He loves some Dusty Slay. We
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  Speaker 4: had a comment here. You want to be featured on
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  Speaker 4: the show? We love to shout out callbacks, hashtag tear talk,
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  Speaker 4: all of it. But we have a comment here from Amy. TX, Texas, Amy, Texas, 1999.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know this side of Dusty. Have enjoyed his
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  Speaker 4: comedy for years and his interviews on podcasts, but this
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  Speaker 4: was on another level and it even made me more
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  Speaker 4: of a fan. I'm standing in my yard looking at
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  Speaker 4: this guy and questioning what is real.
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  Speaker 3: Laugh out loud. Big week for the Flat Earthers last week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: big week for the Flat Earthers and then once again,
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  Speaker 3: how susceptible I am to a good conversation. It's made me,
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  Speaker 3: we got on the plane from Lubbock, Texas, going back
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  Speaker 3: to Nashville and the first thing I said, ha, I
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  Speaker 3: don't see a curve, fellas. I didn't see a curve.
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  Speaker 4: When we got up in the air. I was trying
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  Speaker 4: to look as far as I could and I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 4: somebody brought up a good point. Like, how does the
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  Speaker 4: moon and shit move the ocean? Then you should have
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  Speaker 4: asked them that. You should have followed up with them
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  Speaker 4: and asked them that.
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  Speaker 3: Really, they asked that? Yeah, and I'm like, that's a
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  Speaker 3: good question. Those people should have their own podcast to
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  Speaker 3: ask that question.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't have that kind of depth and scientific
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  Speaker 4: research going on in my head at the time when
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  Speaker 4: stuff's getting broken down. Because it's like, my logic says
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  Speaker 4: the earth is round. However, I only think that's logic
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  Speaker 4: because that's what I was told my entire life.
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  Speaker 5: After what Dusty said, I was pitching Mackenzie on this
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  Speaker 5: on the drive back through Chattanooga, and I hit her
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  Speaker 5: with this, and I'd like to get everybody's thoughts, because
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  Speaker 5: she was like, you just broke my brain. We're driving
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  Speaker 5: in the daytime. We look up, and we see the moon.
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  Speaker 5: See the moon in the middle of the day. And
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  Speaker 5: I said, you're supposed to see the moon at night.
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  Speaker 5: Does that mean that it's night for someone right now,
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  Speaker 5: and they're not seeing the moon?
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  Speaker 3: We Googled it.
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  Speaker 5: AI had no answer for that. That really fits into
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  Speaker 5: Dusty Slay's spin around.
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  Speaker 3: I don't fully understand AI. What you said.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even.
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  Speaker 3: I don't either.
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  Speaker 5: But if I'm seeing it during the day, that means
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  Speaker 5: someone at night right now is not seeing the moon.
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  Speaker 5: It broke my brain.
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  Speaker 1: You can technically walk outside right now. Yes. You can
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  Speaker 1: walk outside right now and you can find the moon.
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  Speaker 1: It's there. It's bright. How? The moon is always up there.
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  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, sometimes you can't see it. And it's like...
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  Speaker 1: What he's saying is like, how does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: It orbits around the... Right? It's a part of Earth's
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  Speaker 3: gravitational pull. The moon blocks the sun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's not blocking it. I'm telling you, when you start
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  Speaker 5: Googling it, AI starts... like scrambling.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm kind of scrambling. It broke our brain.
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  Speaker 3: You got to orbit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Tell them about the orbit. You got to orbit around
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  Speaker 3: to where the moon gets in front of the sun
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  Speaker 3: and then it blocks and it's nighttime. Because Earth's gravity
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  Speaker 3: is pulling them, right?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an eclipse. Isn't it kind of crazy? It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Will, you're talking about like the moon phase?
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  Speaker 3: Kevin, is that your food? Bad taste. Sure, his mind's blown.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't know you could have those. I did not know.
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  Speaker 3: Solar flares.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about You're talking about the moon phase where
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  Speaker 1: it's like a crescent moon, half crescent, waxing crescent moon.
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  Speaker 3: Waxing crescent. That's the earth.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reflection. That's the earth putting a shadow on
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  Speaker 1: the moon. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, shit. That's how that works?
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about full eclipse. We'll talk about when the
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  Speaker 3: moon goes in front of the sun. Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 3: full eclipse.
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  Speaker 4: That's definitely a full eclipse. We'll talk about that like
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  Speaker 4: that happens every day. You got to wait for it
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  Speaker 4: to block the sun because then it's nighttime. Then I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: AI was like, yeah, some people at night right now,
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  Speaker 5: since you're seeing that, that means they don't have a moon.
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  Speaker 3: The fuck does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't everyone have a moon? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, sometimes you don't see that thing. Yeah, but it's there. Apparently,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes it's not there. No, it's always going to be there.
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  Speaker 3: It's always there. It's not going anywhere. No, some people
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  Speaker 3: don't have it. But you can't always see it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know about that. When there's clouds, you can't see it. No.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just not there. Yeah, do we have Dusty's number?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, should we call Dusty?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do we have Dusty's number?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, call him.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to call him? FaceTime Dusty?
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  Speaker 3: FaceTime Dusty. You want me to pitch him on this?
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  Speaker 1: What am I saying?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You call him.
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  Speaker 3: You call him. While you're calling Dusty, while you're calling Dusty,
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  Speaker 3: we had another one from Aggie Rattlesnake. Grumpy Cop, please
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  Speaker 3: arrest Marcel Reed. Grumpy Cop, alleged Grumpy Cop responded. Consider
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  Speaker 3: it done.
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  Speaker 4: Hunter069, is that the Grumpy Cop?
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  Speaker 3: Is that him?
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  Speaker 1: Alleged.
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  Speaker 3: This is three weeks in a row, four weeks in
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  Speaker 3: a row? Which one is it? Three, I believe. Three
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  Speaker 3: weeks in a row of Grumpy Cop being in the
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  Speaker 3: comments section of the Bust With The Boys episode. Just crazy.
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  Speaker 3: The FBI got to Dusty, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan Knapp's got a good shout in the comment section.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan Knapp, 4964. Boys, get on Widow's Bay. Good spooktober series.
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  Speaker 3: Great show. Have you guys seen Crystal Lake yet?
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  Speaker 2: I started last night. Three episodes in.
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  Speaker 3: It's good.
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  Speaker 2: It's a new kind of take on the slasher from
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  Speaker 2: the perspective of Jason's mom, really. But it's Linda Cardini-
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  Speaker 2: She's Velma in Scooby-Doo, if you're curious.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But so far, it's very intriguing. I'm waiting for it
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  Speaker 2: to really get violent, but it's had some scenes where
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, fuck. You kind of have to look away,
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  Speaker 2: but you're still looking with one eye.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's like that.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: It's got some gore in it.
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: I know, because my whole... I love Friday the 13th.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: It was one of the first ones, as a child,
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  Speaker 3: I got into. The first movie. You're aware of the
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: first movie? How the mom is the whole time? So
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: it is interesting, because they always kind of like... There's
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  Speaker 3: multiple movies, like Freddy vs. Jason, they brush over it,
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  Speaker 3: like the third or fourth one, they kind of talk
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more about what happened to Jason, how
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  Speaker 3: he was bullied by the camp counselors, he drowns in
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  Speaker 3: the water, mom goes crazy. I don't necessarily know, and
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  Speaker 3: people in the conversation could definitely let me know, how
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  Speaker 3: he gets resurrected. I haven't got there yet, at least in...
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  Speaker 3: Because it'll be.
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  Speaker 2: It's worth a watch though.
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  Speaker 3: And I've also heard a bunch of stuff about Friday
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  Speaker 3: the 13th, like the rights to that movie has been
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  Speaker 3: in litigation since 2009 or whatever the last one came out.
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  Speaker 3: I think we were in high school when it came out.
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  Speaker 3: It's been in litigation. That's why there hasn't been a
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  Speaker 3: new one since. And there's been so many different, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Halloweens and other ones like that, like reboots of originals.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be, I'd love to see that series as well.
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  Speaker 3: But what's this other one about? And you've hit Widow's Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Widow's Bay is great. Widow's Bay is based in like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a new Martha's Vineyard that's up in the Northeast.
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  Speaker 2: And they're trying to like resurrect this old town that
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  Speaker 2: was like an old port town. Yeah, an island that
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  Speaker 2: has a curse on it and all the people who
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  Speaker 2: live on the island have lived there their whole lives.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of the basis of the show. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of creepy stuff starts happening. They have a mayor there
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  Speaker 2: who's trying to just like get all these tourists in
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  Speaker 2: there and try to revitalize the island A lot of
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  Speaker 2: spooky stuff starts happening.
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  Speaker 6: It's haunted.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of sounds like some village vibes, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody who's grown up there and lived just on that island,
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  Speaker 4: if they go to the mainland, the minute when they
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  Speaker 4: go to the mainland, they die.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Every example, someone who's left has died.
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  Speaker 3: It's good. It's a good series. I love it. It's
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  Speaker 3: got some jumpscares.
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  Speaker 1: It's good. Does it really?
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  Speaker 2: The main character who was in The Americans, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever seen that show, he's an awesome actor.
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  Speaker 3: There's also in The Beast and Me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That guy is creepy. yeah he's good he's good i
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  Speaker 3: gotta i gotta buy in a spooky series.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Have you watched have you watched haunting hell house.
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  Speaker 3: No i there was multiple years multiple years at will's
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: there's haunting hell house what was the next one bly
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: manor bly manor and all those was like you gotta
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  Speaker 3: get on these but i'm thinking about 31 days of
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: spooktober i want to make sure i hit all my
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: hit all the ones i want you know because it's
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: been a great spooktober so far yeah so far i
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: think we're Out of the tops when it comes to Spooktobles.
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  Speaker 3: Angle to it? Yeah, I forget what that one's called.
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  Speaker 1: That one's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, another great series.
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  Speaker 4: When he gets on that, writer.
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  Speaker 3: Director, whoever.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Midnight Mass, is that what you are?
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  Speaker 3: Midnight Mass, yeah, that's what it is. All those are
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  Speaker 3: things I would love to get into. What happened?
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  Speaker 2: Dusty can't talk right now, but he texted me back.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he can. He's probably off the grid a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 7: All he said, I don't know if this makes sense
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  Speaker 7: to anyone, but he said, well, when we have what's
• 11:17
  Speaker 7: known as a new moon... There is no moon in
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  Speaker 7: the sky.
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  Speaker 3: That's his response?
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  Speaker 1: That was his response.
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  Speaker 2: If that clarifies for anyone.
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  Speaker 3: That might be something like just awoken somebody. Sounds to
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: me like somebody got dusty after our episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We need to make sure we hear his voice when
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: we see his face before day's end. He was, guys,
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: I was kidding that day. It's all around. Hey, dude,
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: that was... one of the harder times I've laughed in
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  Speaker 3: this episode when he talked about someone finding him and
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: he dies, then we all put our post about how
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: he's such a good dude. Hilarious.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: We got to get more of this conspiracy.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: On the series talk. Yeah. Uh, vol dash ball season three,
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: Chad powers busted and paid on campus in the show
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  Speaker 3: would be incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It's all there, man.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: It's all there. It's just the creators of Chad powers.
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  Speaker 3: If they can even, if someone could just have them
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: come across this, this bus and with the boys last
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: two episodes, uh, of us talking about how much we
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: love Chad Powers, how much we love to be in it,
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  Speaker 3: how much we love to get all the boys from
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: Busted with the Boys on Chad Powers. You feel like
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: you're begging a little bit, I don't mind it, because
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  Speaker 3: if it gets done, you know, at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, I'm in. Well, and selling the show to
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  Speaker 3: everybody else. Like, it is a good show. Yeah, season two.
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: You get an opt to be on that show.
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  Speaker 8: Him saying y'all's names, like calling y'all by name in
• 12:24
  Speaker 8: that episode and that.
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  Speaker 3: Voice, and being like, Hey, Willie C. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 3: That would be unreal. Has everybody here finished? Season two?
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  Speaker 3: I haven't watched it yet.
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  Speaker 5: I was at a wedding this weekend, the entire bachelor party.
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: I was talking about Chad Powers. They had all watched
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: it and they were like, why have you not watched it?
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: One documentary you watched that people need to finish is
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: the Saban documentary, dude. It's unreal. We were texting about
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: it this weekend. Yeah, it's so good. I finished it
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: in two nights. I'm on episode three. I think there's six.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite part about Jared explaining to me the documentary.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, since I didn't know anything about football, he's
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: like watching like the 2020 year. And he's like, I
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: wonder if they win. I'm watching the natties. I wonder
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: if they win this natty. I'm like, yeah, I get it. Yeah.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: That's an awesome vantage point to watch this show from.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: But yeah, dude, shout out Chad Powers. Shout out Texas Tech.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Shout out Texas Tech. Shout out Buddy Beach. What a
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: time this past weekend. Buddy was the man. Clean take.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: Kevin's Extra Foods clean take.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: Buddy Beach is the man. Dude, the stories. So anyway, listen,
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: we did Bustin' and Payin' on campus from Bloomington, Indiana.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: We immediately get on a plane and we go to Lubbock, Texas.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: We land in Lubbock, Texas, have about an hour break
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: in one of the grittier hotels you'll ever come across.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: I messed with that spot. That was a classic West
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Texas hotel. We go to, was it Las?
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Las Brisas.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Las Brisas.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry if I'm not pronouncing that correctly, but
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: I believe it's Las Brisas.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Go to Las Brisas. They were kind enough to get
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: us in. Shout out Joey McGuire for texting Buddy Beach
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: to get us in, I think, 8.30 Rezzy. Late Rezzy,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: still got in. Amazing.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: The tables are set up where there's a head of
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: the table. No one sits at that spot. Buddy Beach
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: walks up to us, introduces himself. He's incredible. He becomes
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: such a fascinating individual that we ask him to sit
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: down with us. We know he's a busy man. He
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: owns the restaurant. Sits down and starts talking about being
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: a land man, coming from Louisiana, coming over, working on
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: the oil rigs when he's 16 years old. finding his way,
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: talking about the American dream and then pointing to me
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: and Will being like, you guys are living the American
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: dream right now. And it starts breaking down. Hey, I
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: looked into you guys a little bit. This is how
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: amazing your guys' lives are. And I'm thinking to myself,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: holy shit, we live the American dream. Like we're fucking
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: doing it. We're actually doing it right now. This is unbelievable.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: But just the way he talks and you can see
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: like where at one point we're sitting at dinner and
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: he goes, that guy out there, oil gas, oil gas
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: right there, oil gas. And he's just, breaking down this wet,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: like this little hub of billionaires. That's it. He texted
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: you about his planes that were at millionaire, the airport.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: That was sick.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: He's like, where are you guys flying out of?
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I said, millionaire.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I got two of my jets there.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: He's talking about, he's talking about his partners. Hey, listen,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I do well for myself, but these guys, they do
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: much better.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Than I do.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Taylor's like, You seen the show Landman? Tell us some
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Landman stories.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I go, this is definitely an ignorant question, but because
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: you live here and we've all seen Landman, like how
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: similar is it compared to that? And he starts breaking
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: it down. You're like, oh my God.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: He's like the way they portray the wife, like going
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: to country clubs, shop, all that. He's like, that's pretty
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: spot on.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Which I thought was hilarious.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I was going to say that was pretty far-fetched, but
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: he's like, that's pretty spot on.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: He's like, you grew up around here in Midland, Lubbock, Texas.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Like you- You see the mountains, three, four in the morning,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: you see a bunch of trucks go by, you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: you just don't mess with them. Yeah, we're like, tell
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: us some cartel stories. Yeah. The dude's basically just telling
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: us incredible stories. To the point where I think 30
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: minutes have gone by. Someone else, I think it was you, Clump,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: you ordered all the appies. He's getting up from the
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: table as these incredible appetizers are laid down in front
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: of us. They got- The bacon-wrapped jalapenos? Bacon-wrapped jalapenos, what
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: they call jalapeno poppers, Texas Twinkies, whatever you want to
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: call them. Unbelievable. I smacked about five or six of them, boys.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: No problem. Calamari. Full jalapenos, too. Full jalapenos. Big ones.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Fit boys.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: The sashimi where you're like, do we do this in
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: West Texas?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: But bang. Yeah, the minute you decide to finally dive in.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: The lobster guacamole, which is a U-pull right there. Bro,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: the meatballs.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Meatballs.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Smoked Wagyu meatballs. The raspberry filet. Yeah, raspberry filet. Son
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: of a bitch. When I'm like, hey, what's one thing
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: we should get on the menu? He starts going down things,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: but he's like, the raspberry filet. Now, if you like
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: a little spice, I'm telling you, I'm like, raspberry? He's like,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: comes crusted, the whole thing. It's a very hint. It's
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: got some cream cheese. Cream cheese, but it's like a
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: jalapeno cream cheese. Seeds left inside the jalapeno type of
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: cream cheese. Dude, unreal. We were there for two and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: a half hours. We were there until about midnight.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: All right, until midnight. It's a point where lights are
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: on and they're like, you guys think about dessert? And
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: we're all ready to leave, but we're like.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: In your body, your stomach, everything that you've done at
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: this dinner is like screaming.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: You have no room. There's nothing left in there. For dessert.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Nothing left. He's like, you want dessert? And we're like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: we feel like you're kind of closing up shop, aren't you?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: He goes, I know who's got the keys.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I go, all right.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I know the guy with the keys. I know him,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: he say yes. Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: But he starts rattling off the butter cake, the apple
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: pie that comes out on a skillet with ice cream.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: It was just. The bread pudding. Let's just get a taste. Yeah,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: let's dive in a little bit, dude. It was unbelievable.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Go home, pass out immediately. But hey, Tom. So, yeah. Tom. Tom. Oh, fuck.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Get Matt. We should get Matt for this.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Matt might go on a little too. He might go
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: on a little. I'll sum it up. Tom, die hard
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: from Lubbock. He let us know about 37 times throughout dinner.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Had a little too much to drink.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And let's go. He was a lot. We had a
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: crew next to our table that was neighbored up, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: this gentleman named Tom.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Shout out, Tom. He seems like a good guy, sober.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: He's just talking the boys ear off the whole time. Fortunately,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: we were seated on the other side, so it was
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: like Matt, it was Klump, it was Jack. It was
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: JP every now and then. But Mitch, I'm saying my
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: man is standing at the head of the table on
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: that end. Pretty much the whole time, as much as
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: he possibly can. We'll be engaged in our own conversation.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: And he's tapping dudes on the shoulder, like trying to
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: get in the conversation. Trying to dummy Coleman a little bit. Yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: like they got us around. They tried getting us more rounds.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It's like, buddy, relax, man.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: And his boys, if you're in that situation and you're
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: part of that crew and you have a buddy that
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: is bombarding another table, you've got to reel him in.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: It's almost like they're a little scared of him. Like
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: maybe Tom's a little sideways when he's blacked out.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: But it's like, hey, why aren't you guys getting your boy?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: We're clearly trying to enjoy some socializing dinner with our squad.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: That's not on Tom. That's on his crew. Tom was
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: clearly too drunk to play ball, to hang out and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: do all that. His boys, at the end of the night,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: they go to leave. They left him. Where Matt Malone
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: has to go and get his boys and be like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: you got to take this cat with you. Tom's still
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: standing at the end of the table.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: We told Buddy, I was like, hey, can you do
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: something with this gentleman right here?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: He won't leave our table alone at all. And shout
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: out Buddy and the guy that was serving us. Multiple
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: times they're like, hey, we're really sorry about this. If
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: you'd like, we can get you guys a room. Like
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the back table's now open, the back room's now open,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: we can get you. You and I didn't speak up,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: but somebody was like, no, no, no, we're all good.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: And he walked away, you're like, back room would have
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: been kind of nice. Kind of have this all dialed in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: But Tommy Boy, dude, he was there. It got to
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the point where he would like to have, Clump, yeah,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and then Clump would just look at his phone. Even
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: his drunk self was like, not him. Then he'd go
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: over to Matt, and Matt would be like, hey, Matt.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And I'd get over on him. He tried to talk
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: to Will and I multiple times, but we were far
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: enough away on the other side of the table to where...
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: It's like when you're on a Southwest flight and you
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: sit down and one of your buddies has the aisle,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you have the window. And hey, we have a pretty
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: full flight. Once the flight attendant says you have a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: pretty full flight, it's up to you and your buddy
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to close talk as much as possible to save that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: middle seat. That's kind of where we sat.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Kevin's Natural Food, clean take.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: That's a clean take. That's Kevin's Natural Food's clean take. Me... Cody, Coleman, JP,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and Will kind of got ourselves like a bit of
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a survival of the fittest situation. We had to get
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: ourselves out of that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Buddy was at the other end of the table
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: to where we were kind of talking with him. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: it's like we, because we're like having vibes with that
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: table at first. Like we're saying hello, we're doing all
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: this stuff.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Because they got us the shot and they hit us
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: with a, hey, you guys aren't much, but you're our friends.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, that's kind of a nice little line.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: That's a good toast line for us right now. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, these guys are a vibe. Quickly, 180
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: on us quickly 180 us and there was a moment
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: where the zombie of tom dude the soul of tom
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: was gone and he was just in like walking dead
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and will looks at me goes oh thank god we're
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: on this side of the table and i'm like yeah
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: buddy no doubt about it cody's just trying to watch
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you know g6 football on his phone the entire time
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: He tried to dummy Coleman. I didn't like the way
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: he was talking with Coleman.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Spinney over there.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Coleman didn't care. Coleman was like, oh, bro, I'm all good.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: It was just more like my vantage point. Listen to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: some of the back and forth. I just didn't like
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the tone he was kind of giving Coleman.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Like he was trying to bro everybody and then basically
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: make Coleman the bottom of the totem pole for everybody
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: to kind of get on it. I kind of just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: stayed so detached from all of it the whole time.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Anytime he came near, I was on my phone. like
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: just waiting for him to, his presence, his aura to
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: leave my bubble. And he was like a specter, like
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: just kind of looming over you. Yeah, dude, he's one
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: of those bad people in Harry Potter. Those little, those
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: things that are looking for a serious black, he's a dementor.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: And since Coleman was in the middle of the table,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: it was kind of an analogy like, say Coleman says
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: something that like maybe add to the convo and his
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: vibe would more.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Be like this guy, right?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Like this guy. He wouldn't say that, but it was
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: like the vibe he was giving to that side of
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the table.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Bad guy to pick.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Bad guy to pick, man, because Coleman, he's just woo 24-7, man. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: it didn't faze Coleman at all.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I just didn't like. Coleman actually probably had the number
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: one woo of the night. There was a situation that
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: happened with some ladies at dinner.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And I don't know. I don't know the full story.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Because once again, like this is when Tom started to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: come out of a shell a little bit. I realized like, oh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: my energy is solely focused on this side of the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: table now. Like Jack and Klump and all. I was like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: they have to fend for themselves at this point. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: can maybe save JP. They're surviving in advance down there.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So these girls walk in. There's a fleet of them.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: They just walk in and go to a table. And Colby,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you know better than me. Someone ordered them drinks.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: When they walked in, Matt was like, oh, here we go.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: And then Jack Sorrell and I were like, oh, let's
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: see what you got then. We're going to order them
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: a round of drinks. Kind of let Matt, we'll tell,
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: we told the waiter, let them know Matt bought.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Them the round of drinks.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And it went from there. They sent him the same
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: shot that Tom sent. Probably a bad call.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: That was, what was it?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Vodka?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It was like a coffee whiskey. There was a vodka
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: espresso shot, but the waiter came up and he's like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: we didn't have espresso, so it's really just coffee in there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: So we're sorry about that. These brown shots. He's like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: but they bought it for you. And they insisted. You
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: could tell the waiter was like, we don't want this
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to be a representation of our restaurant, but this is
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: what they insisted we make. And obviously we deliver, the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: customer's always right.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: Didn't hear that conversation. And that's what we sent the
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: girls from Matt. Probably a bad call when you really
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: break that down.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: They go and give the table the drinks.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: They're like on the other side of the room and
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Matt just kind of swirling his wine glass.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Gives them a nod. I couldn't see the girls, but they,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: apparently they took a drink and they're like, oh shit.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So Matt gets bodied from a distance. we're all kind
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: of being like, Matt, this is where we have to
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: find out the kind of guy you are. You talk
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: about your game, your juice, your all that. He's like, oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: you can tell he's getting flustered.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Go apologize to him, introduce yourself.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: He looks like he sells golf clubs for a living
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the way he is based on his outfit. You guys
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: sound like, what is that? Yeah, I showed, so there
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: was a video of Matt going up to the, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: showed Taylin the video and she's like, Matt's a handsome guy.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Why is he wearing that outfit? I go, honey, don't
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: even get on the outfit. Don't even get on the outfit.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: But we all talk him into going up to the girls.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And we have the video. We could probably use it
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: in a clip. But he gets bodied by them. You
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: could just tell.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: The energy.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: There might have been one or two smiling, but from
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: my vantage point, three or four of them were like,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: get this guy away from us.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: It seemed like Matt was talking. They were kind of quiet.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And I want to say somebody... Didn't one of the
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: girls say like, who ordered these shots? Or like, why'd
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: you get us these or something?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Why'd you get us those? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: And Matt comes over. Klump goes to Daphne. Klump goes
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to Daphne. Don't fucking dap me up right now. Don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: fucking dap me up.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Matt's walking back after Nell and Klump's like. And Matt's like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: get your fucking hand out.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Get your fucking hand out. Chill, chill, chill. Girls get
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: up at the end of the night. They start to
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: walk out. Coleman has said nothing to these ladies. He goes,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: hey guys, sorry about those shots again. And one girl goes, oh,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: we drank all of them. And it was like Coleman.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And I go, Coleman's got the gym. Coleman's got the gym.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: He had it going, dude. But the dinner was incredible.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Dinner was great, man. Dinner was all time. What was
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the place we went for the tailgate tour? Little Woodrow's. Dude,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: shout out Little Woodrow's. that is places a vibe dude
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a vibe an absolute.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Texas tech fans showed up yeah it was all time
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: great spot for a tailgate great spot to be there
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and watch games but everybody was out it was it was.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Fun yeah because there was a worry it was like
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: 30 minutes away from the campus correct.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: No it's only like 15 okay.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: It was away from the campus to where there were
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: some concerns by some people on this bus like hey
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: no one's gonna show up it was a full house
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Fans showed up in a big way. They had their
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: guns up. They were ready to go. People bought into
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the activation. We're doing Bud Light, first down celebrations, touchdown celebrations.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: They were all about it, bro. So it was shout
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: out Lubbock, Texas. Shout out Lubbock, Texas. Just got to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: get the fans right. Their operation during games. Yes.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's about all.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Student section gets as loud as they can, but that's
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: about the only section of the stadium. It's a full stadium.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: All the fans were there. But they just don't know
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: how to operate on being loud. You can tell the
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: fan base is extremely passionate about this school and their
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: football team. But we got to figure out volume. Like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a stadium the way it's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: built or because we're on the opposite side of the
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: student section. It sounds like the student section is so
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: far away because when you go to like a kneeling... Like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: you don't know where the noise is coming from because
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: there's so much noise all around you. It's an over-steaming
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: type of situation. You can pinpoint in Lubbock. Those are
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the fans that are getting rowdy. Everybody else is here
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to watch a good ball game. Yeah. Sit down a
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: little bit. By the way, Kevin's Natural Foods Clean Take,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Joey McGuire is one of the best. Oh, yeah. That's
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: an incredible Kevin's Natural Foods Clean Take. That guy taking
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: care of us. Yeah, he's just the man, bro. Got
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: to stay at the team hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: absolute vibe. He came up, Cody Campbell. He came out,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: really expected Cody Campbell. Based on all the things you
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: hear about him, the narrative, how Texas Tech's become the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: villain in the NIL era, and it's all because of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: this billionaire, Cody Campbell. I was expecting like a high-strung cat.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Very calm, very poised, very confident individual that came up.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Like a silent, like a quiet alpha. Yeah, you could
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: tell he was the alpha in the stadium. People would
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: be talking, and as he'd walk by, they'd quiet up.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and go by yeah and then they start to talk
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: again yeah he was seems like his son's a bit
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: of a ball player son's guy i was like how
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: many offers you got he's like i have 20 offers
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: right now i'm like oh shit good for you as
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: it is everybody just expects you to go to texas
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: tech he's like yeah people expect that he's like but
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: my dad's been good with me and my family like
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: i'm gonna i'm gonna take these visits i'm gonna go
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: exactly where i want to go yeah seems like their
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: family's dialed in together too Coach McGuire's saying they're recruiting
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: his ass up too. Talking about how nasty, like, oh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: this guy, this kid, blah, blah, blah. But that's where
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Joey just. He's got it. He's a freshman. Finishes plays.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Not timid. Puts his paws on people.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Better tell him. You better tell him, whoa, than giddy up.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And that kid.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: He was getting after it, man. He was awesome. He
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: was cool to be around for a little bit. They
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: had a lot of recruits in there. You just, Joey
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: just loves the recruits. He loves the players. Just like
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the spring, the spring practice we went to, he was.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Putting his hands out.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Look at this. Look at him, huh? put a little
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: extra meat on. This one's a nasty one right here.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: He just loves him, dude. Those two tackles came up
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to us too, like immediately, right when we got to
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the stadium. Dapping it up, giving some love. It was awesome.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Got to see Dilley. Yeah, got to see Dilley.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: He was confident about the game.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's good to be confident. He's like, we haven't
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: played up to our talent yet, but I like our
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: plan coming into this one. Yeah. About halftime, it was like, oh, buddy.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: But there was a splatter in that took place. Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: That was brutal. A couple of elite wide receivers though
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: on the ASU side. My God. Studs. What else we got?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: We hit our parlay, too.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: We did? Hit the parlay!
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: We bet on two.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: When we were there, you can bet on player props
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: in Indiana.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at dinner, it was either Coleman or somebody who
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: was starting like, hey, you can do player props.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Not in Texas.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, we did them at Indiana when we were eating.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: So it was the bus ride to the airport. Yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: which was sick. We hit that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: And then shout out to Matt Dowdy, the SID at
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Texas Tech because he set a lot of that stuff
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: up for us too.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Just want to give him his flowers.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: He's the man. I love that. We got some roast
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: spicy tear talk for you boys real quick. All right,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: we're going to tear it up. Subject today. Holiday tear talk.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Best holidays. As always, we're going to go through as
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a crew. We're going to put one out there. How
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: do we feel about a Halloween?
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I have an unpopular opinion.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: What's your unpopular? I don't like Halloween. You don't like it? Yeah,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I keep that opinion quiet in this office.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's pretty loud.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: That was pretty loud. We're on a bus right now.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: We're ranking holidays. You said Halloween. What don't you like
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: about Halloween?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Right, but you can rank it without saying I don't
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: He said, what do we think?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: He said, I have an unpopular opinion. Well, he, you
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: opened the door for me and you know, I opened it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I just think it's overrated. I don't find it to
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: be that fun. Like the dressing up thing. I don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: like it as much as like I used to. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: like the idea of it. It's like not as fun anymore.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I like going out. Like I like the Halloween party.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like it's all right. Did
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you like it as a kid? Yeah. To me, it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: like a kid holiday. So when you become a dad
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: one day, I think you'll get back into it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And you're probably 100% right, but right now as a 26-year-old,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I mean, I'm going to go out. I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: going to dress up with Mackenzie. I'm going to have fun,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: but I'm like, this isn't like– I don't know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I don't love it. Your take on like why an
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: adult would not like Halloween, I agree with. That's my
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: entire take. I go to– I mean, when I like
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: have to dress up, I'm like, I'm not stoked that
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I'm dressing up, but it's, to me, it's about, we've
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: talked about all the time, the weather breaking, all the stuff.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the same bit over and
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: over again, but those are the things that make Halloween
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: very special. The opening ceremony.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: If I put it on a tier list, I put
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it as probably my three.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: We'll put it at three.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: But then if a holiday gets a whole month to me,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: then Thanksgiving is the best. Like November is the best
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: month with Thanksgiving.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is like a four day weekend.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I know, but if Halloween gets the entire month, if
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Halloween gets to include the weather breaking at the beginning
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: of October, then I think November, that entire month, is
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: the best.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it can include the whole month
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: for this tier talk. It's got to be just the holiday.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: All right, fair enough. I'm getting in the details only
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: because we're ranking them. I don't actually care. Don't break
• 31:51
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• 31:53
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  Speaker 3: Don't break the rules. We can't do it. Let's not
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: break the rules. Okay, Halloween, we'll put it three. Three. Listen,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you brought up Thanksgiving. I'm like, I like Thanksgiving because
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: the family, the giving thanks, all that stuff. It's not
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: my favorite. It's not my favorite one out there. The
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: food's great. I don't have much of an argument.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I just like it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not like a food guy though. Like I'm not
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: like a, I'm not a foodie. I'm not a foodie.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not a guy that's like, oh, I gotta go
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: try this spot or that spot.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: We just spent 30 minutes talking about dinner.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I have a very uncultured palate.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like the whole summer we were talking about
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like your foodie take on.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have really strong opinions about genres and locations.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He's got strong opinions on food, but he's not a foodie.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yes. I feel like those kind of go hand in hand.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: No, they don't. Not in his world.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: No, they don't.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Not in my world. No, they don't. I would put
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving at one or two.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: One or two?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Because the last.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Christmas, 4th of July. 4th of July. 4th of July.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I honestly may... I would probably put Thanksgiving... Yeah, one
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: or two because of One, the last three or four
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: years I've gone to Taylor's House of Food has been
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: absolutely incredible.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Jason and Taylor.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Also, just football on all day. Ooh, that is true.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: If we're only counting- And it kicks off Christmas.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And I was going to say, it kicks off Christmas,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: but also that weekend is rivalry weekend in college football.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: All of those great games.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Black Friday? Holy shit, Mitch is cooking right now. He is. Wow.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: So, like, to me.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was just a singular day.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: That's why I said singular day. Can't break the rules.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: If it's only a singular day, I would still put
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it up there just because of, I mean, what, you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: got four or five football games on throughout the entire day.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: You're just loaded to the gills with food.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I'll be the guy. I'll be the guy. We'll move
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Halloween down to honorable mention. We can put Thanksgiving at three.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Are we cool with that? That's fair.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Okay. I would put Thanksgiving honorable mention. Great holiday, great food.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: And just like that, I'm back on Halloween B3.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I hate that we can't include the full month because
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: we have rules.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Sherm, you okay?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But like there is the whole four weeks leading up
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to Halloween very much is Halloween.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: All the decorations, the transition. We don't have to go
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: back over it. But I mean, I feel like if you,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the realistic ranking should be Christmas, 4th of July, Halloween,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: honorable mention Thanksgiving.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I like that list a lot.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I love that list. That's it.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: That's the list. I mean, you could have saved us
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: five minutes just now, Jeff, if you just spoke up
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: for us. I had to take it all in.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Very observant. And then you came at the right time.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: That's a real spicy Tear Talk best holiday tier list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: That is.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, if we can't do the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: whole month for Halloween.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: There's rules, Mitch.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. But Christmas is a full month, just
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: as Spooktober is a full month.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah but the day the christmas even me who's a
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: huge sputover.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I think christmas is number one for me i'm just
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: saying so then what are.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: You arguing yes i don't know you just talking to
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: talk you got complimented now you're trying to get back
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: We all like agree and then we're like wait what
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: hey how do.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: We feel about easter right it's okay i'm not a
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: huge easter guy it's a holiday I like the egg
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: hunt with the kids. That's always fun.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's where the meaning behind Easter is.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: No doubt. No doubt.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: He's risen. Amen. Yeah, for sure. Okay. I'm with you guys.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I just want to know how we felt about the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: actual day itself onward. Just like that. I think the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: like bunny, it's kind of creepy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're always creepy.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know why the bunny got put in. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: fully agree. We're hunting eggs, but there's an Easter bunny coming.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: I was never made to believe that that was a
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: real thing as a kid. Do kids believe that?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I look at my kids and I'm like, I can't
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: believe you guys kind of believe this. We never did that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: We did the hunt. I know, falling for the Easter bunny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Because that should be the first one to kind of
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: give it away. It's like Easter eggs. It's like bunny.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: And I have bunnies and chickens. So my kids should
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: know better than any kids. Santa's way more believable.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, I can see the
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: kids getting duped by Santa for a while.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure. Easter bunny. For sure. And Taylor and
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I don't even do a good job of selling the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Easter bunny. My kids are just kind of like, yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: this is what happens. The Easter bunny brought me this.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, all right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: My mom would get the rabbit's foot and would dip
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: it in glitter and put it around like our front
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: porch and then throw glitter in the front yard and
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: be like, oh my gosh, with all the.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Eggs out there. Oh my gosh. So how long do
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: you believe?
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: Oh, dude, way too long for Santa and Easter Bunny.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: When I found out about Santa, my follow-up question was like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: but the Easter Bunny. And then started bawling crying.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: No way. I'll tell you. Take Santa, but not the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Easter Bunny. The Easter Bunny, though.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Dude, my mom was too good at it. Willow, my second.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: She'll figure out that Santa's not real before when. Wynn's
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: fully whimsical. She's fully bought into the idea. She's talking
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: about the Switch Witch in a couple of weeks. I mean,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I'm with her, though. The Tickle Turkey is on the horizon.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: She knows Tickle... That's me. I didn't fall off Santa
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: until about Wynn's age. Nine, ten years old. Oh, she's...
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I don't... It would be catastrophic for Wynn if she
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: found out at this age.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Did you get told by your parents or did some, like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: asshole at school be like, you still believe in this?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Because... I got.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Duped at school and it was a horrible day.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I had to go home, look at my parents in
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the eyes, be like, you did this to me?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: It's such a bad role. Same.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Mine's a tad worse. I had pointy ears as a kid.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: They've kind of flattened out now.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: My mom's remedy to that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: Was to tell my bullies at school that I was
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: an undercover elf and that I was going to tell Santa...
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: To not give them presents. And their rebuttal was, what
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: a fucking idiot. This kid believes in Santa.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: What? Yeah, it was just like a triple whammy. When
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: is your mom having a group meeting with your bullies?
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: No, she told me to tell my bullies at school
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: to get the bullies off my back of like, hey,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: quit bullying me.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I could tell Santa.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Because I'm actually an undercover elf.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Dumbass.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Honestly, your mom set you up for failure.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's when she looks back at it and be like, okay.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Shout out Miss Amy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Shout out Miss Amy. Miss Amy rips. I love Miss Amy.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: She's phenomenal.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Shout out Miss Amy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: We can all agree that that's a bad move by
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Miss Amy. We all make mistakes.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like another fun to your talk would be
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: like made up characters like Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Tooth Fairy.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Tooth Fairy is another one.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Sleep guy. Sandman. Sandman. Sandman. Yeah. I never heard of that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Sandman.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It's like your dream, like the dream guy.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, I never, we never had that. Like from Sharkboy
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: and Lavagirl. The Sandman, what does he do? He's supposed
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to make you go to sleep and dream. He's the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: ruler of.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: The dream world from that perspective. I feel like once
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you're an adult, you have so many fictional characters you're
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: trying to continue your kids' belief in, and you've got
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to stop somewhere. You can't be like, yeah, there's also
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a guy who's sprinkling dust on you, making you dream
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: of stuff. You've got to just pick and choose your battles.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Is Sandman like George Lopez from Shark Point and Lava Girl?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Or am I completely tripping?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: You're completely true. No one knows.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: What a pull. Let's move on. That concludes Roast Spicy
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Tear Talk. Hey, did you guys know that in 1985
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the Air Jordans came out? Air Jordan 1s came out?
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Do you guys know that? Do you guys know that
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: they were only $ 65 in 1985? That makes sense. Do
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: you know today they are worth $ 30, 000? Are you aware
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: of that?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: No, I did not know that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: With one pair of shoes? One pair of shoes right now.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: From the 1985 Air Jordans. If you found them and
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: bought them, they'd be 30 grand? They'd be 30 grand
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: right now. If they are not worn. You want to
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: know another thing about them? Courtyard's got a pair.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: And tomorrow, which is today because it is Tuesday now,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: even though we're shooting this on Monday, Courtyard has a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: $ 65 pack because, in 1985, they were $ 65, for a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: chance for you to rip. If you rip on Courtyard,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: the $ 65 pack, you have a chance to win $ 30, 000
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Air Jordan 1s. I mean, is that not just insane, fellas?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: We're talking about rip opportunities. Rip-a-tunities. That's what you got
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: right there. You rip that pack, you can get also
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: basketball cards, you can get Slam Magazine, but also shout
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: out the The shoes themselves, and they only go till
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: October 27th. Think of the rip-a-tunities. Think of the rip-a-tunities.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Think of the rip-a-tunities. So they got a mobile app anyway.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: You can go to courtyard.io. You can join on the action.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just letting you guys know, we will be ripping that,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: our Ripping with the Boys, on Tuesday, 7 p.m. Central
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Time for our live stream. We'll be doing that. So
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: if you guys want, join the stream. If we rip
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: those $ 30, 000 shoes, guess what we're going to do? We're
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: going to show you guys that we have them now.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: How cool is that? We're going to keep those. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: will for sure be keeping those if I rip those. No,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, dude. We'll give them out.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Dude, my dad's biggest regret in his life is he
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: owned a sporting goods store back then that sold shoes,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: and he had so many of the original Air Jordans. Oh!
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And he was like, if I just kept a few
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: of them. Damn it. That is crazy. Isn't that crazy?
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: He's like, I remember when they came in. He's like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: I remember looking at them. And he's like, I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: about it like every week. Just like, why didn't I
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: just keep a couple?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And it's like kind of where your brain goes now.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Like getting into like the whole ripping thing. Like cards, shoes.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Like they do coins now, all that stuff. It's like,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder what things. Like 4th of July, 250th anniversary
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: of America. I was at Target. And I saw a
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: six pack of Coca-Cola and it said America 250 on it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: And I thought, oh dude, I'm gonna buy this and
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: just be like that grandfather that has a pack of
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Coca-Cola from like 50 years ago and just have them.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So I bought those and kept them. It's like, however, what,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: 16 bucks or whatever it was. And they got drank, dude.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: People came over and they drank them.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And those are gone now and i actually will not
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: buy another pair but i uh pack and i here's
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: what i'm like 80 i'm like those sons of bitches
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: who drink that that's a three thousand dollar ball of
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: whatever six pack of coca-cola and it probably will be
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: they probably will be dude.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: No 20 years we rip in courtyard coca-cola packs.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the ripping stuff is so much fun. Jack's been,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: have you been ripping lately?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I haven't on courtyard in the last two weeks, but
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: two and a half weeks ago, I did rip like
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a $ 350 Pokemon card off of a hundred dollar pack,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: which was like, all right, I'm back.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: You're back.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Also this weekend, I took a week off of betting.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm, I'm trying to be responsible, responsible gambling also
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: with courtyard, you know, have fun with it responsible, but
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: it will come.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: It's thrill shopping.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: It's thrill shopping. You take enough cracks at it, you're
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: going to get something. Just the other week with Josh Pate,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: we did National Treasures in Lincoln, Nebraska. One of the
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: best National Treasure packs we ever had.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: It was a wild box.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: And then we ripped a similar priced box pack on
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Courtyard and got a $ 3, 500 card, Patrick Mahomes rookie card,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: PSA 10. Yeah, bro. A lot of rip-ertunity. A lot
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: of rip-ertunity out there. That's huge. Absolutely massive.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I see that Brandon Spikes is in the house. Is
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: he in there? I'm kind of nervous.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Prayers up to Jalen Hurts, man.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Prayers up to Jalen Hurts. Yeah, hopefully he's all right.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: They're saying blood clotting in his lungs?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it moved to his lungs. Not good.
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: Obviously, he's going to be out for the season, get
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: some blood thinners in him. Hopefully, everything works out. But yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: pretty serious stuff for Jalen Hurts. They did report that
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: when he got to London, they found the blood clot.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: They told him not to sleep. He stayed up for
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: 36 straight hours, played in the London game, led a
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: game-winning drive.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: They obviously lost that game. He led the game-winning drive,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: so he's a warrior, man.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Jalen Hurts.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: That actually is pretty incredible. No sleep. Listen, this is
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: all allegedly. I'm not pointing anything out. Seems very irresponsible
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: for whoever told him not to sleep for 36 hours
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: and then go play a football game.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Seems very... And that's just... I'm just observing. I'm not
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: trying to.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: That's just a reaction to the information you were just giving.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: It's a reaction. A couple of tier talks before we
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: get out of here. This comes from Dick Richard. Football aside,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: real quick. What's your guys' take on the whole Tesla
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: roadster thing? Hashtag tier talk.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I have like a take on it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: It's going to open up a lot of doors for
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: people that are nasty. That's the take right there. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: kind of mess with it. I look so much like AI.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: It's like this has to be fake, right?
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: But I can just imagine being at a crossroads with somebody.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Say you're at the Franklin Farmer's Market. There's never good
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: parking there. Two people try to get in. They're kind
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: of honking at each other. No, I have it. And
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: then just pressing your little pressurized air. Imagine if Matt-
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And then barrel rolling into the spot. What are they
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: going to do, dude? What are you going to say
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: to them?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I just flew in here.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Imagine if Matt Malone had his hands on one of them.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: He just leaves every day like, all right, boys.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Land on the interstate.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Hey, that is insane. He's like, I'm going to be
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: down on Broadway this weekend. My question is, how do
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: you refill that air? Are you pumping up your car
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: every night? Let's play a button in there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: That's got to be like a one and done.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe it takes in the air. That'd be a one
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: and done thing. Yeah, maybe it just takes in the air.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Imagine somebody just parking next to you. You find a
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: spot and somebody's just going... and everything's fucking blowing. You're
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: trying to get the kids out of the car. Dude,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: what the fuck are you doing?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: That's another good point, dude. You're on a gravel road
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: and you're trying to hit the air compressor and you're
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: breaking windows. That's nuts. This one is Dave from CP.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Can we get another Taylor LeJuan, Dan Orlovsky wager on
• 46:08
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• 46:10
  Speaker 4: What's happening with the Rams right.
• 46:11
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• 46:12
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• 46:14
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• 46:17
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• 47:38
  Speaker 3: win streak.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Got Josh Jacobs coming back this week.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Just, hey, how about them Titans? How about them Titans, Jeff?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: How do you feel?
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Titans, baby.
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  Speaker 2: One and fucking a lot of losses.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: One and O right now.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: One and O. But yeah, a big defensive weekend for
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: all Tennessee football teams. That's as much as I can
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: say about it. We play the Browns next week. Let's just,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: let's go into it. 0-0 mentality.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: 0-0 mentality.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Playoffs are still in the hunt, I think. Colts fired
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: their GM.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Colts fired their GM.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: You see what the Titans can do to an organization
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: with one win?
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Dude, DeForest Buckner after the game was like, same old shit.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I'm getting sick of this. It's like, oh God. People mad.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: People are mad.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Houston takes down Jacksonville. The path is... Starting to be there.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing about this league this year is
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: it feels like everybody's kind of still in it. Everyone's
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: got it up here.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Except the Chargers.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: That's the best part about going.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, except the Chargers.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: Best part about going 12-5, you got to lose five games.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: You got to lose five games to start.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: And we talked this morning, too. You're over the Vols win.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: You only give yourself 24 hours. Oh, no.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: That's rat poison, as Willie C would say.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's rat poison. Nick Saban would also say that,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: but Willie C definitely. And also- Willie C is my favorite. No, no, no.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: But you're going to enjoy this one for how much longer?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Up until tomorrow, I'll enjoy the Titans win. This was
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the first time since November of 2024 that the Titans
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: and Vols have won on the same weekend. It was
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: also the 69th time it's ever happened since 2000. So
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: we'll enjoy this until about tonight. And then we're on
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to next week.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Then you're back to work. Back to work. Back to work.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Also 69, shout out Matt Mealy.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Right? Good pull.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Good pull there by Jackie. For the boy. Come on.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: All right. We feel good? Feel great. Anything else? Sherm?
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited for Spikes. So excited for Spikes. Can't wait.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: You just feel his energy outside.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I know. Somewhere, someone is cowering in a corner because
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: he's about to fuck somebody up. Yeah. No Sean Moreno.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Look out.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:38
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• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up, Spikes. Get the call out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Fucking talking.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: I said, I know the damn defense. He need to
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: hear my thoughts right now. It's a mental game. It's
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: a mental game. I fuck him up, get him thinking
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: about some other bullshit.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I got him.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: It's a game of itch.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Guys is like this. You ain't gonna get no sex
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: with them, man. Who, me? Yeah, y'all over.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: There. That's some good ass chicken, too.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: What, Kevin's Natural Foods? Yes, sir.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Bro, it is fire, right?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I fuck with that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: That's a clean take. I like it. It's nice and healthy.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: It's clean.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: Make me feel great afterwards.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Kevin, we didn't even ask you
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: to say that.
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: Hey, it caught my eye just right when I'm, you know,
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: I'm like that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: I'm all over the place.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Whatever you're doing right now, don't change a damn thing
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: you're saying.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: We're already recording, correct?
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Why would you say that to me?
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: I don't even know how to be one way.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I ain't got no other way. That's probably why I
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: ain't never get 100 million.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: If I could fucking switch it up.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, how much you do yet, though?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I was blessed. I was okay.
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: But I didn't get that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: That's good though, the good Lord. No, not to give
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: me that bad. Because I wouldn't act right.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I didn't ask the right question. How much did you
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: get at Florida? Oh, I talked.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: To be honest. To be honest, bro. I took a
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: fucking pay cut when I left Gainesville. These fucking guys
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: getting paid on these little guys.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Look, though, look. You go to the bar.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: Hey, y'all ever got y'all check? Y'all done got tax
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: and tax institutions before? You don't play it up with
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Dermot and Foxborough, right?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: That check look a little different when you walk up
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: out of there. Yeah. I got that eight times a year.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: For five of them.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: You were saying something. Uncle Sam. I like when I
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: was getting that thing full. Everything full. If it was five,
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: it's really ten. If it's ten, it's really.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Let me stop. Hey, I'm buzzing with the.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Is this thing on?
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: It's on. Okay, all right.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: This is a nice little setup you got here, guys.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: We appreciate that, bro.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: This is my first one.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Is your first podcast ever done?
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think physically. I don't really know.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Zoom, is that podcast? I guess it is podcasting, but
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: This feels better, though.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: It's a vibe, right? I feel everybody energy, even that
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: fucking Tennessee dude. Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: 4-0.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: He's riding high right now. 4-0. Is that the biggest rivalry?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: That one's huge.
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: I hate that we don't even play, but I did
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: admit to him earlier that I've never been more embarrassed. Oh,
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: there's only one other time I've been more embarrassed. It
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: was Texas when we went out there the first time
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: and they, whew, they gave it to us. I didn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: want to come back out. Y'all remember that? It was
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: like 40-0 or something, 40-3. DJ went down. We were
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: playing with a couple backups and stuff. Yeah, it wasn't
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: 15 years ago. I think it was Texas' first year
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: in the SEC. I feel like we played in Austin.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: You don't remember that? You played? No, not me.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: I'm never playing in Austin. I feel like I'm still,
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: I'm a Gator. I love that shit. When they lose,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: I lose. Even though I ain't break a damn sweat.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: You cut me open, I'm orange and blue, bro. I
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: hate that I feel that because that shit going to
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: kill me, bro. I had to quit betting. I might
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: as well give a motherfucker money. I was just betting
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: off a pride like, fuck it, I'm a Gator.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Know we're going to get smoked.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Underdogs, big time.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: And they fuck around and get scum.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Big by 21s.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: You know what that is?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Double.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: I said, we ain't even talking about that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just giving away money, but I love Florida that much, bro.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Were you always a huge Florida fan growing up?
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: No, I will admit that I've always loved Emmitt Smith,
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Wilbur Marshall. I knew who the dudes, I always watched
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: football to see who the best player. That's why now
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: the number one don't really mean nothing to me, because
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: back in the day, whoever had number one.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: On felt like, I feel like I oughta talk to
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: y'all over there too, for some reason. I don't know why,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I just feel weird.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: It makes it better, you just keep sweating.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want on this podcast.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: I've always liked y'all gameplay, first of all, because I
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: judge me and all for that shit, especially what we do.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Just to be honest, I am critical and I'm unfair
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: at times.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: But y'all brought me the SEC experience.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: I love doing things I ain't even have a plan.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: I'm so spontaneous and I live, you know what I'm saying?
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I really feel alive. Y'all, I ain't, even though I
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: went to the SEC legend, I don't know why y'all
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: did that, but that's love. Y'all good with me for life.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, for real, bro.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: It's the little things, the sweet nothings. I was raised
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: like that, bro. I'm from the South.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: This is where it's so fucked up.
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: Where are the nice people at?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Guess what?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Guess what?
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: OG told me a long time ago. It's important to
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: be important. Boy, it's more important to be nice.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Think about that.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: It's nice.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: I think that's the fucking, let me get it right.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: It's nice to be important. Boy, it's more important to
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: be nice.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: There's a call right there. God, I love you, man.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there like, oh, shit. He's got such
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: an energy about him where you're like, oh, fuck. It's true, though.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like we kind of breezed over the fact
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: that he said he took a pay cut going to
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: the NBA.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: You're 100%. I knew he was going to swear back
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: to that shit. Dude, you had so many. Like, this
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: one cheater on you, like, we knew by the legend
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: of Spikes.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Bro, I love Floyd.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: That experience, I would have stayed. Some of these dudes
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: getting seven to eight, nine years. That would have been me.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: They would have had to kick me out of that, man.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: I'm having the time of my life, bro. And I'm
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: playing ball with brothers at the best place ever.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Like that. Y'all been in that area?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: No, I have not been to the swamp yet, bro.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Not been to it. Every year we talk about how
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: we got to get to the swamp.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Y'all got to come to the swamp. Bring the bus. Shit,
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: fuck all that.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Can they motherfucking move?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: No.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I can get in tow. We can get in tow.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: We can get in tow. All right.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Swamp though is muggy, dude.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Watch out, watch out.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: No, but it's just, if you never, like I played
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl, all the biggest games. Ain't nothing
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: like the swamp at nighttime when that motherfucker rocking. And
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: to be able to, you know, to be able to,
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: I'm talking shit. I was a showman. It was one
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: thing about playing at a high level, right? But then
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: the fans, these people been coming generational, generations. I've been
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: sitting here since I was four. I'm 45 now. That's
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: when I did that shit. And to be able to, Do.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: That one time, them motherfuckers go crazy.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I be like, hey. And they get quiet. I'm like,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I'm controlling.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: 96,000 with my hands.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: And these 10 other motherfuckers that don't listen. The lights
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: get on, you know what I'm saying? I got to
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: talk to them. It's a mental, the whole thing, like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: it's fun. And at the end of it, you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: you gas out. Y'all know when you exert that type
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: of energy. But I'll give my little pinky toe to
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: do that shit again for free though, broski.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: You didn't do it for free back then, though. I
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: would have.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: It was satisfying.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: When I hit a motherfucker in the face and he
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: look at me like, yep, I'm one of them.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I am Alvin Mack this Saturday. Y'all know Alvin.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Please tell me I know who Alvin Mack is.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Well, you know who Alvin Mack is, right?
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Come on now.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: How old are you? Coach, I don't think so. Old
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: as fuck.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I'm 51.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: That is... Hey, go to one of my clips. Oh,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: of course, bro.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: First team defense.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Hey, I'm gonna have to come out of this shit. Hey,
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: give me an Alvin Mack clip or something.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Come on out. This is the kill everybody.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, when he's sitting in the film room.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: That's how Charlie Scrone used to be in that space.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: What we got on this? He's dead, coach. Don't worry
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: about it. You done gave me that play 50 times
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: this week.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And when they show up, you know, you know. recognition,
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: play recognition.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: But to get to that, you gotta be a student
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: of the game, right? You gotta put the time in.
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: You can't be playing fucking Fortnite and Call of Duty
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: or watching streamers. Hey, yo, play that shit.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Can we turn this up? Is there a way to
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: turn this up?
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: Oh, please, come on.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: As if he can't get more juiced up. Let's get
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: him juiced up.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Look at his face. Look at his face.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: That's how I usually look at my teammates miss a tackle. B,
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: don't start that shit. We got to be perfect. What
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: the fuck you talking about? Bull gate or something. Motherfucker, watch.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: It. Ain't nobody talking in his hood or wheel.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: Shut the fuck up. Y'all ready to kill? B, we
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: playing football. This shit about life. I was a psychopath, guys.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Nuts.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: All my teammates would tell you like, hey, B, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: think I made a transformation every time I put on
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: that uniform. You know what I'm talking about? I think
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: I'm a nice guy. I like to treat people the
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: way I don't want to be treated. Like I told
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: you about the sweet nothings. I'd get bouquet of flowers
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: for the women in the building when I was in
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: there and Just like, why'd you do that?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: It's not her birthday.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Just want to put a smile on her face.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: The world needs to do that more. We need a
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: little bit more of that. In this cold, cold world
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: where everybody for their self and shit. But then the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: helmet comes on.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: Then I put that uniform on and I literally turn into,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: I think I got two personalities. I promise you, it's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: my alter ego. His name is Alvin Mack. I watched
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: this movie when I was probably seven, eight. Most guys
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: probably watching Little Giants.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Not you.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: My big brother was on that. Sit down, man.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: You want to play football? You're six years older than me. Real,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: way better than me. Was in the streets though.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: Very smart, educated, alpha male, leader. Everything about him. You
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: look at me, I am Breon.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I am him. Literally.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: Because I always, you want to be like your big brother.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: That was the only male, you know, figure that was
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: in my house at the time. He was six years
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: older than me. So obviously, he trying to move like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: he the man of the house. But I had a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: great example. You know what I'm saying? Alpha male, raised
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: with the same morals, same principles. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Like, it was nice.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: It was nice while he was there, but he introduced
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: me to violent motherfuckers, aggressive motherfuckers. Like, what position you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: wanna play? I said, what'd you play a bit, bro?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Linebacker.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: I said, oh, well, I think I'm gonna watch the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: NFL films and see what all the linebackers look like.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: That's supposed to be worth a damn. First person I see.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Dick Buckus.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: Dig fucking buckets. And guess what he was out there doing?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: Ripping people head off. And you know, they had that,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: I think that he was in them leather hammers back then. Nah,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: he wasn't that bad. He wasn't that old.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Kind of the plastic shell. Yeah, but it wasn't shit.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: Like, if you was out there sharking, you know, because
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's my little spirit animal.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Great white shark. The biggest, the baddest.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Bro, you a megalodon. That's not, that's why I fuck
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: with you. That's why I fuck with you. It's going
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: to be that kind of podcast where you don't talk
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: a lot, but you can get a couple on his
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: good side, you know? Hey, I love the animals.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: I love everything about it. I haven't really studied that shark.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: This is a real shark, huh? Or is this just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: the movies?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: No, no, it's a real shark.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: I've never seen this on BBC, though. Have you seen one?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: I've seen those little movies with all the graphics.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Dude, they got a documentary. We haven't discovered the entire ocean.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I know. 10%.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: I like this. I like where this is going. It's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: all about this type of shit.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: I like this. There's a documentary on Netflix, and Morgan
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Freeman narrates it, and he talks about megalodons. Don't tell
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: me nothing else. I won't say another thing. I almost
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: just did it. I won't say another thing. Megalodons are real, though. Man.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: I'm always a great white. I'm going to have to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: look at that.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Are they fast?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Are they big and fast? They died because... I'm pretty
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: sure they died because they weren't agile enough. They weren't
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: agile enough.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: That great white.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: There might be one out there.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That great white. He got there.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Smooth.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: A fast predator.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: By itself.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: How fast is that ocean? I ain't worried about shit.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: Anything come near me, you already know what you're dealing with.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: You better be ready to die.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Look, y'all playing around and shit.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: Ask any one of my teammates that play on me,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: and they're like, hey, let's go to Warby. You can't
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: help it.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: How long did it take you to figure out that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: this is you when you put a helmet on? As
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: soon as I put that shit on, it's like, ah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: What age is this?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Like when your brother's putting you on and you start
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: watching NFL films, you see a big bucket, you're.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Like, I want to be a violent player. I like this.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go all the way from the beginning, from
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: the foundation. I may need a shot in a minute,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: but hey. You brought the tequila.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: So I first started playing ball, I was what?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Second and third grade. I think that's Pee Wee. I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm probably four or five. Pee Wee.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: Sorry, sorry. Mighty Mites. I don't know if y'all sit
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: like that. Second and third grade. Pee Wee.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Wait, no.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: Mighty Mike's might be first and second grade. Yeah, if
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: you're playing football. And Pee Wee is third and fourth
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: grade and Midget is fifth and sixth grade. So obviously
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: when I was younger, I wasn't as big, especially when
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: I was like five or six.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I was still tall, but I hadn't got, you know.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Five or six years old.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I've been the same size since I was 12.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: I've been the same size since I was 12, this size.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: No shit. Since I was 12, literally. Okay. So, but
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: five and six.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: Lucy, call see me out there. They said, that guy's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: going to the league. If not, I don't know. He
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: would have been, it would have been a tragedy if
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: he don't make it. You knew right away. Cause that's,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: that's what I was giving. Like I wanted to come
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: with that energy and I, I don't even use.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: The word I this much. Anybody know me? But we,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: About, it feels weird saying I so much of me,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: but I'll get over it in a second. Probably need
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: another shot of that. But you know what I'm saying? But,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: It was never about me, the whole ordeal. You know
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying? I always, it's weird when I retire
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, hey Spike, here, Hall of Fame. Damn,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: I forgot all about that. I didn't know they did that.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: All I wanted was the rings. I ain't give a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: fuck about none of them individual awards. I ain't sign
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: up for no individual shit. I'm glad I get the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: flowers now though. I'm almost 40 and people say, in.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Japan, Spike's.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: Italy, Spain, Gator, go Gators.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this Gator Nate, I made the best
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: decision of my life.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Just being a part of something like that, feel like some.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Ivy League shit.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: Some Stanford, Harvard type shit. We may be the Ivy
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: League of the South now. I ain't going to say
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: that now.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Don't even think about Vanderbilt. When you think about Ivy
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: League of the South, you don't think Vanderbilt, you think Florida.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Now you do.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: The standards is, and football should be that way too.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: You see how basketball getting down. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: But where was we at?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: You started just taking over.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: All right, boom. So 4-5, I played running back. I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: played both sides of the ball. Then when I got
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: a peewee, that's when I started wearing them Husky jeans,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: which y'all big boys know about them Huskies. Y'all don't
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: know about them Huskies. That's the size, Husky. Big fella,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: big bones. And they put that red stripe on my
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: damn helmet, so I couldn't carry the ball no more.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: All I can do is get physical, block people. You
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? I couldn't play those skilled positions
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: because they was like, oh, he too big. So after
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: third grade, I should have been playing peewee, but I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: was playing midget. And it was a guy older than me.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: And I never forget. He was like a guard or something.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: I forget what I was playing. I might've been playing.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: I wasn't playing linebacker yet. I was like on the line.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: And he's like, I think they did like a little
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: sweep and pulled outside. And I came in. His name
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: was Josh McGill. Hey Josh, you know I fuck with you,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: shell town.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: Crest Charger, state champs, but hey, practice, it was war. Like,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: that's what it was. But I wanted to get the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: respect of everybody. This is how I was thinking at
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: this young age, because I had a big brother, literally
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: six years older than me. Like, hey, if we're going
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: to play ball, we're going to play, and you damn
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: sure ain't going to be my little brother, the biggest
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: and the softest timid motherfucker out there. We ain't doing that.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: Because people knew me as Lil' Breon. I ain't have
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: my identity yet. I ain't like that shit neither. But
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: my brother had the respect of everybody, street motherfuckers, school motherfuckers.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: He was very, very, very intelligent. A little too smart
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: for his own good, but that, he just had that glow.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: Like y'all don't see.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: The Last Dragon? Y'all ain't movie buffs, y'all better, The
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Last Dragon, Bruce Leroy. Bruce Leroy, he got like a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: glow about him.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: Like he come, he get in that mode, he get
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: the glowing. And he's magical then, a motherfucking surgeon with that.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: And he, you know, being a, look, look at that glow.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: He get that glow, you better watch the fuck out.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: So this is your brother? He just had the glow.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: When he came around, people gravitated towards him. He was
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: like a magnet. You know what I'm saying? A lot
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: of people say, I tend to do that, make people
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: feel comfortable, whatever, but.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: This is just me.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: You got the glow. I treat people how I want
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: to be treated, period. You know what I'm saying? That's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: a little thing. I think about that all the time.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, them boys didn't have to do that.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: Bring me to their set. Y'all didn't have to do
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: that shit, but.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: You did it anyway.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's because I won the SEC.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: It was a lot of SEC legends out there that day.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: Y'all could have had anybody. These guys is in the media.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but as a backer, like watching you as a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: young boy. Yeah, we knew Brandon Spikes was in the building.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: It was like, oh my God. Best friends, BFF.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, straight up.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: And it's a little thing. Anyway, let me tell you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: a story. So- I hope y'all got some time.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, we got time. If you do me one favor,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: make sure that microphone's a little bit closer when you're
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: talking because there are a lot of people right now
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: that are on the edge of their seat just like
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: me and Will are.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm good now?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: You can move around.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Just move it with you because you do a great job.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: I ain't never been in no professional. I got a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: show with Kevin Winter on Monday. It's professional in there
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: at our J school.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: I'll remind you again, so don't even worry about it.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to remind me a couple of times.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: I'll be fucking shit up.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: But you're coachable.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I'm coachable. I learned.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: That's one thing Bill used to say to old Frank
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: the Tank. Spice, I gotta fucking give it to you.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: You don't fuck up the same thing twice, but you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: fuck up, though.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Do the same thing twice though. I'm like, how am
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: I supposed to take that? Is that a kind of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: backwards compliment in that, Bill?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Fuck.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: But thank you, I guess.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: So boom, my big brother had this standard right away.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? Early on, when I hit
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: my man like that, and I was playing up a year.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: I was in the fourth grade, but I'm playing midget.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: And I punished him, and I think his dad was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: the coach. I hit him, and he was spinning around
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: on his helmet and shit. They like, damn. I didn't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: have a choice. This is how I play. I was
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: at home with my big brother doing form tackling. If
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: we're going to play, it's safety in this. You got
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: to learn how to form tackle, bro. You want to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: play defense, your job is to tackle.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Nothing else.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Receivers get paid to catch. Quarterback get paid.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: To throw it. you get paid to tackle mother fucker.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: And I think, don't quote me though, my first four
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: years in NFL, I might have missed one tackle. I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: might've missed one the first four years. I took that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: shit personal.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: It was my job.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: I wanted to do it at the best of my
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: ability and not let my brothers down. Anyway, so boom,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: I fell in love with the game right then. Then,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: you know, obviously the movies, you know, I started to
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: like develop this like this.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: This character.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: Because that's all I was doing. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Because I realized motherfuckers meet me, they'll be like, you're nice.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: You're a nice guy. Hey, how you doing? How's your day?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: What you getting on right there?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: You been here before?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: What would you like to order here? I don't know.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: But that's where I'm from. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: And people are like, oh, that's Brandon Spikes right there.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: This guy was fucking a lunatic.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Nut job.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: Personal foul. I'm getting one every game. Just to set
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: the tone. Y'all want to stand.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Around the pile? Wake up.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: Wake your ass up. Counting change and counting pennies and shit. Boy,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: my family watching this shit. You better wake up. I'm
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: trying to hurt your ass. I ain't want to put
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: you out for the rest of the season, but I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: want to get him out for the good guys.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Because our chances of winning goes up by a little bit.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: 7%.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: I knocked the best player out of the game.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe more.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: And that's what my, you know, that's all I wanted.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: So Coach never told you to do that. You're like,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: this is me.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: Only one person stopped that shit, and that was Bill, William.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: He's like, listen, I understand your fucking tone setter, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: that's one of the reasons I drafted you. But that
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: personal foul bullshit, you can cut that out right now
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: because it's going to be detrimental to the team if
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: you get one, and I'm going to fine your ass
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: as much as I can. Whatever it is, I'm going
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: to fine your ass because we ain't doing that. You
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: got to be fucking smarter than that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: I said, yeah, all right, Bill.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't get a lot of them. Yeah.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: But you can't do dumb shit that hurts the team.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: Hey, sometimes, sometimes you got to do what you got
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: to do. And if you got to fall on the sword,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: I want to win that bad. Oh, he killing us?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: He killing us. I'm going to hit him after the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: play one time. I ain't going to hurt him. I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: ain't going to hit him in his knee or hit
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: him low.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hit him.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Night-night.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: You're trying to go to sleep. I'm going to hit
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: him right in that temple. I was on some... I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: was really... Like, my favorite players were Dick Buckets. What
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: can you expect?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Clotheslines.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: A little eye gouge.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: A little eye gouge.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Eye gouge, you motherfucking sinner.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: Come on, man.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: I thought... Bro, North Carolina, Shelby football. That Shelby shit.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: That shit get real.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Like, have y'all seen the little... Is it Friday night
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: tights or some shit?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: The little. We been on that. Just not without the cameras. Man.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: He was there before.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: It was cool to do it. Man. Up, down.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: They pads on their knees. They knee pads down there
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: on their shins. Down there by their ankles.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Up, down, go.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: And I don't care if you crying. Tell your mama.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: That's what I come from. And if you couldn't kick it,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: play basketball. Which basketball is my first love. But that's like,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: you knew. When they start with that Oklahoma drill. Y'all know,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: they turn a lot of guys into hoopers.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: They don't do none of that.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: So you can't kind of wean out the weak. You
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? They'll stick out like a sore
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: thumb if you had to be Emano Emano in front
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: of your brothers.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Let's see what you got. Are you going to.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: Turn that shoulder a little bit? Are you going to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: turn it down? Because we're going to see it. We're
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: going to see who you is. Or you're going to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: put your face on that man. And if he gets you,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: he gets you. Get your ass up and do it again.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: If you ain't on that type of time, We don't
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: speak the same language. I can't be around you because
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: we ain't going to mix. I'm ahead, but I struggle
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: with leadership all the time because I expect guys to
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: play at my intensity level. But everybody want to play
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: for the same reasons, right? I'm playing per respect.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: And the love of the game.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Fuck the money. Fuck the neurotic.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Fuck the fame.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: I just want the respect. I want the respect of
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: my teammates. I want the respect of the fans. And
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: most importantly, I'm a fucking coach. That's why all my
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: coaches love me to death. Beale told me, he said,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: you slow as hell. I drafted you because I knew
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: you were slow, like you ran a slow 40, but
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: what you can see on the field, nobody's like it.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody. You did have a slick foot.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I ran a 4.9. 4.9 when I'm moving. I done
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: been a young a couple times.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: I thought there was a five on that. Oh, the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: second one was a five. Hey, there was a five.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: I was in... Nobody knew. What year did you come out?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: I came out, I think it was 2009. 2009 was
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: like my rest year.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: I remember coming home from workouts at Nebraska because I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: wanted to know what Brandon Spikes ran.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Because I thought.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: Number one linebacker two years in a row.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Junior?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: He was a junior. But I came back my senior year.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Only.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: solely for a third national championship.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: But who were the guys at the top of the draft? Oh,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: it was like.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: Sean Lee went to the Cowboys. I'm still pissed about that, Jerry.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: How could you?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: But you had these backers that's like, you know.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: Bill Parcells would have said, I want that motherfucker. Yeah,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: that's what we need. That type is fucking 40. He
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: know football. He love this shit. And he run through
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: people's face. And that's what Bill was on.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: He's like.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you ran. Cause I didn't do shit. I
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: didn't do nothing at the draft. All I did is interview.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: You know, teens had like 10 psychologists on my ass
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: every time.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I said, damn, am I crazy?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: Why every teen got six psychologists in here talking to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: me about bullshit?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Y'all, I ain't talking about y'all.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: We ain't talking about.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: No football, but that could be the reason why I failed.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: But I never hid who I was.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: Like what you see is what you get. And I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: think that's what make people gravitate towards me. Cause I'm raw.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: I'm uncut. And I'm not perfect.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: I'm human.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: We make mistakes. We make mistakes. My mom, when I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: was young, she used to tell me, I'll leave going
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: to work. She'd say, make some mistakes, son.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what you trying to say? Go ahead and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: turn up, cup of chocolate milks.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Turn up and it's going back. But obviously, you can't
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: get it right until you fail sometimes.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: Trial and error. Sometimes you just got to mess it
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: up a little bit to figure it out. I was
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: one of those guys, but now I'm in a place
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: where I can mentor and guide. Like, don't go down
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: that road, son. I've been down there. I fell down
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: that shit already. And I'm still up, ten toes down.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: Now I'm still here. But you don't want to go
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: that way. And for one, you ain't built for adversity.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: I already know. I done seen your ass when you
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: was on that 20th gas.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: I saw it.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: I saw the human element set in on your ass.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: And we ain't showing no motherfucking weakness. You know what
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: I'm saying?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: That's what Florida used to be. Yeah, I'm tired as fuck.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: But my opponent won't know it. He'll never know.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: It was, you know what I'm saying? That shit meant something.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: Y'all don't been there. Long play drive. Come on, 15
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: plays kicking your ass. And you got that monkey jump
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: on your back. You got that little cramp on your
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: side right there. You know what I'm telling you?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: You drank too much coffee. Get that little cramp. Everybody
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: done got that little cramp. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: That shit.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: And you want to give, but you look at your brothers.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: And me, I get to see it all eyes. Just
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: standing up.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: And not only that.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: 96,000 watching too. So I can't, I don't get to
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: do it. In certain positions, you just don't get to
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: do certain shit. Like the QB1, I would never play
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: that shit in Florida, never. Ever, but I don't want
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: too far, but let's go back.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Hold on, before you do, what were you saying about
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: being a Nebraska?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my bad.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: When I was, because I was a freshman, that's when
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: obviously the Combine stuff was going on.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: We've come back to this draft talk.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: But Cohen, when he had that five second 40, it
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: was him and a handful of others. You mentioned Sean Lee.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Number one linebacker.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: But the backers, it's like when you loved watching the Combine,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: like when you were a young cat and knowing that
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Brandon was like the top dog in the class. I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: remember driving back to my townhouse, dorm, whatever it was,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: to see what he ran at the 40s. And when
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: I saw he ran a five second 40, I was like,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, he ain't gonna get drafted in the first round.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Cause I was just a.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Mad, like he just loved backups. And he was one
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: that was like, you know, he had the dreads. The
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: dude you'd create on NCAA.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: Then you turn on the tape, you see it on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: the tape. It ain't just the media pumping them, oh,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: this guy did, hey. Y'all, this motherfucker Circle, he can
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: ruin it for us today. If y'all don't get him,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: this one guy right here, he may ruin the game
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: for us. That's the type of impact, the type of
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: presence I felt like had to come with the position.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Some people be like, B, you taking
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: this shit too far, bro. This a game.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, it ain't for me. You don't understand.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: It's like an outlet at the same time, like a release,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: but at the same time, like just a you know,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: be a part of something like that group, that camaraderie that, you.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying? We all go through the same.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that common goal. Like that's, I think that's what I,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: you know, gravitated towards. And I think that's why I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: played the game mostly. After I retired, I realized that
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: because I was by myself, you know, family man, home
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: with the family or whatever. And I'm like, man, it
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: was good. I'm retired, I'm chilling. I'm like, damn, you know,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: business was going good. And just the wins wasn't the same.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I think I'm used to being a part
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: of something. So I was, I've been on teams since
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: I was four years old.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: And been that guy, never, you, you're gonna lead us.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: I didn't, I always, a lot of times I'm like,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: let me just do my job at the best, you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? But they're like, nope, brain the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: rest of you motherfuckers wish. And once you take it there,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: a lot of these kids scared to leave, because once
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: you take it there, all eyes on you now. Waiting, oh,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: you said this, but look at you. Hands on your hip,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: big guy. You tired, you bent over. I could never,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: and guess who else felt like that? Timothy T-Bone. and
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: a lot of other guys, but to have that, to
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: have that, that type of bond, that comradery, that connection,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: that shit was special. And it's never, I got lucky guys.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: My two quarterbacks was Tim Tebow and Tom Brady. And
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: you know, Cam Newton was in that conversation too. We'll
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: get to that, but I'm gonna keep going, sorry. I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: know I told y'all I'll be talking then. Just remember
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: what we're talking about so we can get back to it.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: All right, so boom, middle school ball. Boom, so I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: do my thing.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: Here's a question I have to get to whatever point of.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: The journey this was. I'm going from elementary to middle school.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: Let me just tell you what I'm going to do.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: Elementary ball, middle school ball, high school ball, college ball,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: then we'll get to the NFL. Can we do that?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Let's do that.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: And then y'all can ask me whatever. Whenever y'all want
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: to fucking talk. But anyway, so boom. But I didn't
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: mention this. Y'all know this shot?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Come on, man. Man, class of 2027, once in business school,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: y'all see it?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: Once in business school, y'all see it?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: Cold hard rep, class of 2027. Yeah, so boom, middle school,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: I developed a love for basketball then.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: I was a hooper.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: I hooped my whole life, too, since I was four.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: I didn't even mention that, but I was a hooper.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: That was my first love. And I thought I was
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: the bread truck. I thought I was Barkley. That's what
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: they used to call me. That was my nickname. Cause I,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I just, damn, I just, I can't jump like him now.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: I couldn't play above the rim. But Barkley was like six, four, six, five.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: He ain't that tall, but he, you know, he got,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: he did his damn thing. But I could, I could
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: do whatever.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I could dribble.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: I could dish it.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: I could break press. I was a good player. You know,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: I was recruited by Wake Falls division one. A lot
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: of my teammates played at Wake Falls, whatever. AAU basketball
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: was a thing. And I get to that too. But
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: basketball was, I came into a dilemma when I got
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: into middle school. I was like, damn, I do love
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: football and I'm very dominant. And I was big. Like
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: I told you, I've been in the same size since
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: I was 12. I was already big. You know what
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? So a lot of people are like, maybe
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: he doing it just because he big and everybody. But
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: it was a lot of big motherfuckers where we from now.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: Like they just breed them. Like Shelby, they got some
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: athletes and some big husky motherfuckers. They love football and
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: they some nasty dirty motherfuckers too. You want to recruit them,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: trust me, especially for the SEC. Because they got that,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? Especially to play certain positions,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: you got to be a little nasty.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: You a nice guy. You ain't going to survive.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Never going to survive.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: Not even just SEC.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Nowhere. Playing football, you don't got no.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Edge, no intensity.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: You got to have a screw loose.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: And your teammates, like, I always just want to gain
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: respect of my teammates first, my coaches, and the fans.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: As long as they respect me, fuck what the media saying,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: fuck what everybody. If my brother's like, B, you good enough,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: and I'm happy to go to war, which, that's all
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: I ever wanted to hear.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: And the championships, I had to put that in there too.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: The rings, gotta have the rings. But all right, boom,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: so get it. This one, it really came to me hard.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: So I'm going into high school, ninth grade, right? So
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: I'm an AAU player, we travel basketball. I think we
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: had nationals in Orlando at the Worldwide Sports, AAU basketball nationals.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: And I had came to a point where the high
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: school coach, varsity, he was like, you know, Roy Kirby
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: was like, hey, we got off-season training, you coming in here,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: you know? We want to see what you got. Basically
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: trying to say if you're going to play varsity or not.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: So obviously basketball is my first love. I already been
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: in a season with my guys, my brothers. We finna
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: go to the nationals and play for the national championship
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: or whatever. So I go down to Orlando and the
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: guys doing off-season workouts, whatever. So I miss like a
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: week or two. So I get back. We start our
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: little off-season program. I'm on JV. First start, the same
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: size on JV with the same dog ass mentality.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to bite your head off. Big, little, short, fat, tall, black, yellow, blue, white.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Your ass getting hit. Period.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: And your mama going to say, he too old to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: see his birth certificate. I've been doing this shit. I've
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: been biting kids' heads off because I played with older kids.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: You know how that go. You big already. You want
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: to see what you got. You want to compare it
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: to the older people. So my mentality, just mine. I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: don't know, it was hard to explain, but the parents never,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: even when I played basketball like this too now, not
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: on no, you know, no brute type shit, but it was,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: you know, basketball is a gentleman's game now. You got
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: to find the spots and the spacing to get your
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: shots off. And you know what I'm saying? You can't
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: be no, I wasn't one of them football players out
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: there fouling and shit.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: I could move.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: That's what made me a good linebacker because I was
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: good lateral.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: I could cut you off, get you to the baseline,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I charge.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: They like, this big motherfucker taking the charge. Come on.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: Or I pin your shit on a boy. I may
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: dunk on your ass. Like, I love balling.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: I could do it. I could dribble. Iso, move.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Get the, move.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: Come here. I might go past you. I might pull
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: that motherfucker up. I might draw the defense in.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Ha!
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: Who y'all, y'all probably like Bruin and shit.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a magic guy.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm, oh.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: The OGs raised me though. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm old school.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I respect.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Bruh.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 6: Ain't nothing wrong with bruh, but I'm just saying that generation.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, no, no, of course not. Why go to
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: this Colby Bean Bryant? Rest in peace. MJ first, then
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: Colby Bean Bryant. Solely because of the competitor, the attitude. Like, yeah,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: the early says Colby, he's a little asshole. And I'm
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: getting off topic again, but I ain't gonna go there.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about that. Let's get back to the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: goddamn high school shit.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: So, boom. So you're on JV.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm on JV.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: First day, first practice, I'm on JV. I'm on JV
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: for like first period, five minutes. Because what I do,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: bite a motherfucker head off, like to kill them. He
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: had a decision to make. Am I a football player?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: Or it was one of them type of leagues. It
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: wasn't in the Oklahoma gym. I was just that mad.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: I used to ruin practices sometimes. I did it at
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: Florida too. I never did it at New England just
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: because of Tom, the Pharaoh, the goat. I ain't never
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: want to.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: Get into it.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: The Pharaoh.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: His name is Pharaoh on my phone, but he changed
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: his goddamn number. I ain't got a number no more.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Pharaoh, holler at.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Me, man. Damn.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Alex.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Alex. Shit, he takes me back.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: That's the guru. He took me through, he got my
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: body right all through that. I felt like Ali all
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: my whole career. I still feel good now. I used
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: to knock the shit out of people, feel great. But anyway,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: so boom, I get there.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm on JV.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: I'm like this motherfucker. I go into the locker room.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm in the JV locker room. I said, oh, okay.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: I didn't say shit.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I just, you know. with the motherfucking. So I paint on,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: I was one of them motherfuckers. Oh, let me get
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: my glass right. I was one of them motherfuckers.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: I went to that mode, Alvin Mack, 14 years old.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Kill everybody. Everybody dies.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: Brother or not, I know we've been playing together since
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: third and fourth grade, but I'm about to let the
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: head boss of the coach know you trying to play
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: me and I'm a Spice and where I'm from, Spice,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: everybody know. Don't fuck with the Spiceys, they handsome now.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: They handsome, you know what I mean? But them motherfuckers
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: on that bullshit. They will switch up on y'all. Like
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: we could go zero to 60, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: Like that's just the reputation. I knew about it and
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: I was aware so I could control it. You know
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying? It's like we had a temper. Like that's,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: men and women, that's that blood is fiery. Like a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: fucking hot tamale, a red pepper spice. You know what
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? When I was young, I'm like, damn. Don't
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: fuck with the Spiceys. Bro, you already know there's something
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: coming with that. You might get a razor across the face.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: or get your ass punched out. You like, damn, I
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: ain't even saying nothing. And my reaction just, I felt disrespected.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: And whatever come with that, I'm on all of it.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: Like sometimes I used to get like that in the league.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: But also you can control it. Sometimes.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: It was times I get taken out the game. Like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: come yo, the first couple of series, you know how
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: that drilling going and shit. I couldn't, I was raging
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: at that bitch. I've been trying to kill your ass.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: I've been practicing, preparing you all week. Now you're right
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: across from me. I can look at you and see
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: if you got any weakness. I'm studying your body language.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: I'm going to strike free in your ass. I'm looking
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: for it though. Because when that blood hit the water,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: great white shark, you already knew. Then the red belly
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: piranhas around me, them 10 other motherfuckers. On your ass,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: four quarters, four quarters. I'm glad I wasn't on the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: opposite side because we was out of control. Not only
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: me had this mentality. You didn't have a choice. You
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: better have this shit. You can't play on the defense.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Herb ain't say it. Strong ain't say it.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I say it.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: It's my fucking defense. That's what come with playing linebacker, though.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: You playing that position, it come with that. Like, I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: don't know how you don't set the tone and be
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: a general and, you know. Sometimes I see the guys
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: out there, they be like.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Left, left, left. I say, what is this, a whisper party?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: We play in front of 96,000.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Left, left, motherfucker.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Get your ass.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Urgency, where is it at? And it ain't just on Saturdays.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: I need to see that shit on bloody Tuesdays. When
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: ain't nobody watching, it's just me and you in the work.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: Come on. Let's go. Y'all get me going, bro. I
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: ain't talking about- I'll tell you what, while you're talking,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just looking.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: At- Hey, sorry.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Am I too much?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: No, you're crushing, dude.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: You sure?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: Change nothing. Okay. Change nothing.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: I can tone it down now.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just excited to see y'all. You are doing- This
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: is Mount Bushmore. This is Mount Bushmore. No, stop, man.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: The culture's gonna tap into this and be like, Spike
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: just holding court with all these white.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Boys on the bus.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: That's one thing about football. I don't see no color.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: I was raised in a very diverse area.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I feel you.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: I don't see none of that real talk, bro. Like,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: I go off how people treat me, and that's when
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: I judge your ass. Like, I don't see none of that.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: We the boys. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: That's one of the reasons why I miss ball mostly,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: because I don't get to do this shit no more.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: Dude, I'll tell you what. Sitting around and talk shit.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't know one of the greatest choices we've ever
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: made in our lives was asking Spike to come on
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: that SEC. Bro, it was.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: It was one of the best.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Because you're like, we're family now. I'm like, oh, shit.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: And guess what?
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: We was... You know, I was having my day and shit.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: I was having a great time with my family and
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: going into the SEC ledger thing. I didn't even know
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: that existed. They called me and said, hey, you going
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: into the 2026 SEC ledger? I said, what is that?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Hit that mic. I'm sorry.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: I said, what is that? What is that?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: The SEC ledger? It's like, oh, yeah, you're one of
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: the best players ever played in the SEC.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I said, oh. Well, I'll be there.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: What time is it?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: What day? Yes, I'll be there. I didn't even know
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: they had that, but cool.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: This is nice.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: So JV. JV, boom.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: So I bust Choo-Choo ass. His name was Choo-Choo. My dog,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: Brandon Miller. Show creep. Still love you. You already know.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: Got it tatted on the stomach. I ain't got my
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: seat pack.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I ain't never had one. I will put my seat
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: back on.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: Look, though.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Look, though.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: So you beat Choo-Choo's ass on the court. One hit.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: First period.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: We used to, we was one of them. Ones on
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: ones right away, inside, let's go. Know they running it.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: That's what I, you know, that was my first thing.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: That was really good at stopping the run. I took
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: it personal. That's what I do. So I smoked Choo Choo,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: knock him into another day. He probably, I don't know.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I hate to do them.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: We from the same little area and shit.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: I had to do it to him.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: But anyway, they said, Spice, go out to the varsity field.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: I said, you damn right. And guess what else? I
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: would try to go play linebacker or the head coach.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: Rutgers said, no. Defensive end, I'm 14. Now I'm the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: same size now. So I'm like, oh, but I wanted
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: to play linebacker. Cause I knew at defensive end, I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: learned very early that if you impactful and you got
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: a presence, they going to just run to the other
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: fucking side and do everything. Oh, they're going to stay
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: away from you. So I need to be in the middle.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: I can get you going that way. I can get
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: you going that way. And you better not come through
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: this motherfucker. Cause that's where I reside in. And I'm,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: I ain't even eat pregame meal. I ain't ate pregame meal, soldiers.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I am starving.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Bro, Will, you probably was eating pasta and shit for
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: the game. Trying to get some electrolytes and energy and shit. Hey,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: y'all don't brought the world.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I am starving.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: I'm coming out there to eat because I'm starving and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go eat what I kill.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Because you're a great white shark. Hey, I'll say ego.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Right now, I am Brandon Virgil Spice right now with
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: you guys. Only way, only way Alvin Mack surface, if
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: you put a helmet on me. If you put a
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: helmet on, just a helmet, I don't need the fucking
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: butt pad, the knee pads, not even a girdle.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: I was a raw dog guy. I wasn't on girdles
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: or none of that shit. I wanted to be free.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: I'm running that fireplace. I need to be light as
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: possible so I can move as fast as I can.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: So I can't, that little girdle would have probably slowed
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: me down.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: I need all my love. But didn't nobody even know
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: that until I ran that shit. But let me get,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: I keep fucking going.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: All right, boom.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: You smack him, you're on varsity. Boom, I'm on varsity, boom.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: You DN. DN. So I said, what, before I run,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I told you I signed up for LB.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: I'm this size, probably big. I'm probably like 6'4, 277.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: 14.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: 14. I lost weight to play linebacker. I'm probably about
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: 310 right now.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: You're not 310.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Fat as hell.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: I'm 310 right now. That's why he's on the Cavins. Well,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: it's crazy.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: He don't look through his head, does he? Yeah, I'm
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: been a big back my whole life.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: Whole life.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Been eating.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: That's when I'm the happiest. When I'm stuffing this pothole.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: Anyway, look, though. So Pete did.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: So boom.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, damn, Roy's name was Roy Kirby.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: He finally told me I was working for Dan when
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: I went into the Hall of Fame in Shelby, North Carolina.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you, coach, for always pushing me to the limit. Anyway,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: so boom.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: I'm an end, and I'm on scout team. I'm like,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: all right, big, big. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Big.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: When it was, I'm an earnest defensive end spot, which
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: I did. I took over and led the team in sacks.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: That's a fact. Y'all can fact. In the comments, when
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: y'all talk, see if I'm lying. If I'm lying, I'm flying. 14,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: we go deep in the playoffs. I think we lose
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: on a motherfucking... A hook and ladder or some shit. Yo,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: what's that little play where they throw that little curl
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: in the little red? A fucking hook and ladder will
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: beat us. I'll never forget that. That would have been
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: three state championship for Brandon Virgil Spikes. Got to, but
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: I'm all right. Anyway, beat me freshman year. So boom,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: we graduated a bunch of older guys. It's funny because
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: this shit kind of happened in college too. Same way,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? But I just wanted to
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: prepare and do what I need to do. Do my part.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: If I'm a scout team, I'm going to give you
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: a good ass look. I'm going to give you the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: best look. You ain't going to see this on Friday night.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: I promise you. So I'm gonna have you ready to go.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: That's my job, whatever, that's the role, boom. So then
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: I eventually became a starter, freshman year, boom. So I
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: came a starter, probably like, I don't know, probably like
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: four games in, freshman year, boom. So now I'm with
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: the ones, I can't play scout team no more. Something
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: happened to one of the scout team linebackers. So I
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: just went and played scout team. The linebacker, just to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: prove a point to Roy that I can play this shit.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to fuck up y'all period every day
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: playing my linebacker. I'm going to impose my will on
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: your starters to get recruited by, they was getting recruited.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: By ACC school, so I already knew I had them.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: I've never opened an ACC letter or a big team letter.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: You would have looked great in maize and blue.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: I like the big A. I know you do.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: You're a big boy in the big house. Yeah, I
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: like that. I talk the time about what it's like
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: to be there.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: It's nice.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: I love how you're thinking about it as if it's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: actually an option.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: No, I know, but I remember getting those leather. I'm like, ah,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: that's a cool helmet. I like that helmet.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Wolverines. I'm a big X-Man.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 6: I was like, I can't even open it because I
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: might like what they say.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Put that in a pile. You controlled that.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to see it.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: He was locked into the SEC the whole time.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: I did want to take a visit to Notre Dame though.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: I can't think of who the coach was at the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: time though out there. They didn't even let me on campus.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: The GPA was too low.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: It was probably Charlie Weiss.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: Nah, it was before Charlie. It was before Charlie. I
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: was younger when they was recruiting me. It was before him.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: You offered it freshman year of high school?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Sophomore year.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: I think Clemson, then Tennessee, then Brooks. All right, let
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: me tell this story. So boom.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: So boom.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you were in the linebacker spot. You had
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: a big scout team.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: Scout team, I'm ruining it. They had to take me out. No,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: he can't play scout team no more. We can't get
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: nothing done. I get it, Spikes, but you too big.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: You have to lose weight to play the position because
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: you're going to do more running. You're going to have
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: to cover. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm 277. I might have been 287.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like I was 287 since.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: 14 years old.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: So I lost weight. I lost like that off season.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: I got down to like, I don't know. My high school,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: I'm probably like 245, 250. I lost like 30 pounds. Hydroxycut.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: Shout out to hydroxycut.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Y'all don't know. Y'all don't remember that shit.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: I remember the hydroxycut. I used to be in that motherfucker.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: Shake like a stripper. It makes you burn fat. You
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? The calories, it burns faster than
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: some shit.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: I lost weight, though.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: I lost it.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: I was working out, too, but that definitely helped out.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: But I used to have the jitters.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck it.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: This is what it take to be great. I don't
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: know what it did, but it just made you sweat harder,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: burn more calories, whatever. But I got down and I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: was taller, so I still was heavy, but I looked slim.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: That's when I started to look like a real athlete
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: and shit. My sophomore year, led the team in picks.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: First three games now, I quit. We started out 0-3,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: because the first year, we was pretty good. We graduated
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of older players, seniors and shit. So the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: sophomore year, we was a whole, our whole team was
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: down here in sophomores. We had a few older players
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: that had decent roles, but everybody, our whole defense was
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: sophomores and freshmen, whole defense. First three games, we lose 0-3.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: I quit.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm playing basketball anyway. I'm going to the league.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: Need this shit.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: I quit, literally. Roy Kirby talked me back into coming
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: back out there. We ended up winning that, winning the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: state championship. I really thought I was a hooper. I
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: was like, man, we suck. I don't handle losing well.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: I've never lost in my entire life, unfortunately. I probably
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: can count how many L's I took my whole life
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: on two hands. I lost four of them at Florida
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: in four years, four games. Lost three of them. Wait,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: lost two of them maybe my sophomore year. Maybe I
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 6: lost five because I lost one my freshman year. Lost three.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 6: I think y'all beat us.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: Florida?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah. We played in fucking Outback Bowl.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Capital One Bowl.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 6: Capital One Bowl. I gave all my bowl stuff away.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: I don't count those games.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: I was a junior or senior in high school watching
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: that game being like, oh, shit, Florida. Will and I,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: we grew up like our high school was your time
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: at Florida. We were like, holy shit.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: I'm in the locker room listening to it. Tim Tebow
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: halftime speeches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: He's standing right next to his dad when he did
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: that shit.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, hold on. Don't get that yet. Don't get that yet. Oh, man.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: So you start getting all these offers from schools. You
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: guys win two state championships, could have had three. First
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: offer was who? Clemson.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: First offer was Clemson.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: And you thought no fucking shot.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: No shot.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: I like Clemson.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Your first offer you ever.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Got, you're like, I'm not going to the ACC.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: I just was like, this is cool. I can build
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: off this. Because I was at a powerhouse. We had
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: guys older than me getting recruited. We had a guy
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: go to Navy. We had guys go to Carolina. We
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: had guys go to Penn State. We had guys go
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: all over.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: So you had a little spot.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 6: So my thing is, if they come see them.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure they fucking see me.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: And not just my statue. Oh, he looks big and pretty.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: You know, look like Tarzan, play like Jane. Nah, it
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: ain't one of them.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: I'm really one of them. I'm really trying to bite.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: Your head off. Y'all just want to win. I want
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: to dominate your ass. I want to take your will away. Like,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: that's the best feeling ever. I can just do whatever
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: I want with a man. Like, he know I'm coming.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: He been preparing for me all season.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: And I just take his will from him. That's the
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: most satisfying. I'm a psychopath. I know. Did you ever
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: hear Luke Combs talk about their story against you playing,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: you guys?
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I think I did.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: Luke, it's funny, though, because it's crazy because we did
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: used to come up here and play team.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Not up here.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: I feel like this is Asheville in this area because
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: the mountains and the trees and shit. But we would
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: go up in the mountains and play teams in the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: playoffs and stuff like that. So what school Luke went to?
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: What school he went to?
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: What's his name? Caleb.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: Caleb.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: But this question real quick comes from, oh. Go back
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: to that, Sheriff. Cruz says, does he remember ripping a
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: dread off of a kid's head and tying it on
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: his wrist? The kid played with Luke Holmes. A.C.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Reynolds, yeah.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: I was jealous of them, too. That's why I dunked
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: on somebody, too, in basketball.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: But second of all.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: A.C. Reynolds had a turf field. In high school, we
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: had never played on turf. You see a turf field,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: that goes hard.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Back then? Yes.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I said, damn, they got a turf.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: You know, we from the grass, dirt. We all about it.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: We don't give a damn.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Line it up.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: Give a damn about none of it. But when you
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: saw it, though, when you saw it, I was like, oh.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: I feel like I made it to another level or something.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: We put our foot in their ass, obviously. Of course,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: but I was one of those guys where I want
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: to intimidate your coach. Like, don't run no toss over there,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 6: because I might run into your ass. Just to knock him,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, he done hit
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: the coach. I'm with the shits.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: They said that they was game planning. Coach was trying
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: to get him fired up for the game to block you.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: And you, I don't know if it's you killed the fullback.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: Should we play the clip for him?
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, they got a clip.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: Y'all got a clip. Play the clip.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Play the Luke. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I seen it.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 6: I thought y'all actually had me ripping this kid's dread out. Yeah.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Putting it around my wrist.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: Like I was, man. You took a scalp, bro. In
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: high school.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: I was on all that shit.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: Did you ever actually do that in real life?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: No, I wasn't that sick.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: I am a human, guys. Come on. But I, Yep.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Good old Luke.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: Can I meet him?
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Fuck. Have a beer.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 6: That whole milk. I was drinking that whole milk back.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: In the day. Look at that.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: That's sick.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: That's sick.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: That's 235, 240.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: Why would you do that? That's when I'm pulsing. My
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: Bruce Leroy is.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: Like, why would you do that the first couple of plays?
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: You got to wait. Yeah.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: I was on all of that, bro.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: And that's a true story. He said that was the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: end of the game. Yeah. Bro, I swear to God
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: you look at my bottom.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: He looked over at the sideline. And that's what I did.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: I used to love to like, I'll tell you another
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: true story. I was been on this the whole time.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: So in the league, I'm going to go to the
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: league real quick. New England versus Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bill. I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: think Fred Jackson was the running back. He was having
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: a great year. I think he was like a D3.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: He come from Division III school and all. He was
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 6: killing it.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, hold on now.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: This dude, he doing his thing even defending three. Danny
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: Wood here, same thing. D3 beast though, these dudes can play.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: But anyway, my job is to stop the running back.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? I done ran one son
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: of a bitch up out of Buffalo. 55, the speed
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: limit stopped right there. I'm gonna have to come get
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: your ass. If you go over 55, it's over with.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm here now.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 6: Anyway, Fred Jackson was having a great year. I think
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: they had a backup running back choice. He played for LSU.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: He was like on their sideline or something. I done
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: hit Fitzpatrick, knocked his helmet off, personal foul, you already know,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: done smoked his ass, helmet came off, dropped 250 on
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 6: his ass. Ugh, yeah.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: Flat, ugh.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: They said, fuck you, Spice, you dirty as hell. I said,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: just for that, I'ma put your man to sleep. I'ma
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: knock his ass out, you keep talking. TV timeout, I'm
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: over there. Watch, motherfucker, I'ma kill his ass. I'ma put
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: him to sleep. Fred, this is his fault. This your
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: boy's fault. His ass, his jersey clean, playing all day,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: talking to me like that. This shit ain't for play.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: I take this shit serious. My people watching this shit.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: We get back out there, come out of the huddle.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: They do some little fancy play. I done caught that
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: dab on him. Night, night, went on and knocked him out.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 6: Ball flew around. I ain't even trying to get the ball.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I looked at Charles.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: Look at your man.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: Come get him. He done.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Come get his ass.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: And I did like seven grown men like that. I
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 6: knocked out Sean Green. I knocked out Willis McGahee. I'm
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 6: talking about not just, they see me coming. I hit
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: your ass and put you, ain't no, not seen, I
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 6: think I knocked out Chandler. What was that tight end
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: from Buffalo? He was tall, Chandler.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: What was his name?
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Chandler something.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: What year would this have been?
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: It was like 20, like 10 to.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: 14, 15. What was your last year? My last year
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: was like 18, 17. We probably play each other.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: But I played Buffalo. Yeah, we played together. We played
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: that time when Hottown picked up that fumble and scored
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: on y'all.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: You remember that? No, I do not remember that. We
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: was in Tennessee.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: I do not remember that. But this week I had
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson, he wasn't having no good day
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: on us.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't play with Chris Johnson. Oh, you didn't? No, no, no.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I keep thinking. My first year was 14.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: Michael Ruse.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: What's the other big tackle? Was it a tackle?
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: There was only three tackles in the last 30 years.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: It was B-Hop.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Black dude. Michael Ruse was there. And then from 14
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: to 22 was me.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we played against each other. Yeah, I think it
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: was 14 because Hightower was like a rookie. I promise you.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: Chandler Jones, you played against Chandler Jones too. I remember
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 6: your ass. You were a lot bigger than that.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: I remember your ass. Chandler Jones bought it. Dude, the
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: first time I played Chandler Jones in New England. Yeah.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: It was the first third down. He bull rushed me
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: and got a strip sack fumble that you guys were
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: told for a touchdown. This had to be. 15, 16? 15, okay.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: 15 or 16.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: He probably been like the second year.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: He was young, but he was very talented.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's long as shit. And I was like, oh,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: this is going to be a way to find him.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, Syracuse?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: And his pedigree, his bloodline, crazy.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: His bloodline is insane. People don't even know. But all right,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: where we at? Let me stay on this shit because
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: we can talk. I'll talk. You ripped the dude's dread out. Okay, boom, boom. Oh, yeah, yeah, boom, boom.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: I did all that shit. So- You know, that type
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: of mentality, how I was pulling hair out and poking eyes.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: I wore a visor to protect myself. People been coming
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: after me since I was in fifth grade. Like, get
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 6: them out.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Hit his ass late.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 6: We don't give a damn if he 10. We don't
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 6: give a fuck. We trying to win. I've never played
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: in any type of environment. That's what I thought football was.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: You had to be tough as nails. Whatever that shit
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: came with, you had to get with the program. This
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 6: man gone.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: You got to take out the best player.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: If I can get in your, I stick my finger
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: in your eye one time, you're going to be like, ah!
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: You ain't going to be thinking about that next play.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 6: You're going to be like, damn, that motherfucker trying to
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 6: pull my eyeball out. I made fun of the ball,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 6: bubbled the ball a little bit.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: Mind game.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: But that one time, it caught my eye. I was like, damn,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: I know I ain't been caught in 20 years. I
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: came back over.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah, Colts. He said, he looked up there.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: He said, for real? I said, damn. One game suspension.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Right away.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: Hey, we won that fucking game though. See, it ain't
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 6: what it is. But anyway, boom. So high school, I've
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 6: been on that bullshit. I thought that's what came with
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: the territory. You had to be the most Intimidating, most
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: fucked up, psycho. Normally the backers are, they crash out.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 6: You got a couple guys on the team, especially when
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 6: they used to have that wedge back in the day.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: They hold hands.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: Y'all don't remember none of that. Y'all didn't have to
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 6: do none of that shit.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: Hold do what?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 6: On the wedge, on the kickoff return. You remember when
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: they used to block arms and shit?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: That's back when kickoff got like a 15-yard head start.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Crash dummy. Literally.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 6: Run down there and throw that whole shit in there.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: Be sleeping out there. He'll wake up and go do
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: it 10 more times. I wasn't one of them crap.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 6: I ain't get down like that. I was like, nah,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 6: I do this during games, special teams.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: You know? It's not for you.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, I probably could have played a little longer
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: if I had a, you know, take everyone serious. Like
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: once I had to become, once I became a special teamer,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: Wasn't athletic enough. I said, these guys serious. They trying
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: to keep their motherfucking job. It's time for me to.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: Hang the cleats up.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: One time, they grabbed me up. I couldn't get off
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: of him.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: I gave him everything I had.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: He hit me up. I said, yep.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: Got my pension at 401k.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: Looking good.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: I'm out of here. I ain't going out looking like
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: no peon. No slap dick. Hell no, sir.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: I think I got a good reputation. What was recruiting
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: like for you?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: Recruiting was very, very competitive and special, but It got clear.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: The whole thing got clear when I met Timothy Tebow
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 6: on a couple visits.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: Who were the top schools you had?
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: So my top schools was Miami. I'll tell you all
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: how that fell apart. LSU, Alabama, Florida, and VTech. So
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: when I got ready to take my visit to LSU,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: Katrina happened.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: It's like the universe was like off limits.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: Like literally the week I was supposed to go, Katrina happened.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: So I can't even, you know, that was a mess.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 6: You know, so boom, that was off the limits. I
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: get ready to go to Miami. Coach Coker was down
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: at the time. They fired a whole staff. He called me,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 6: he's like, hey. And I was throwing up the U
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: when I was in high school. Like my junior, senior year,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: I thought out, cause they was that then. You know
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying? I was like, I want to go
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: be a part of that. That looked like the best team.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 6: Cause Florida wasn't what it was. Like they had history and,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 6: you know, tradition back then, like in the nineties. But
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 6: this OC, this is almost 10 years late. You know
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: They hadn't really won.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: And you're watching him in 04.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: That's when I start watching when I meet Urban Meyer. Like,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 6: when I met him and you just, it's the same
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: thing when I met Tim Tebow. When I met Prince Oliver,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: I met Tom Brady. You know right away.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: Like, this is the guy that's going to take me
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: where I need to go. I just got to do
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 6: my part and pull the rest of these motherfuckers with
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: me that's.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: On my side.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: I'll make sure to hold them accountable and bring them
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: with me. And we're going to do our thing and
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: go win this motherfucker. Because I'm going to die trying.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: And they knew that. I'm gonna serve every last ounce
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: of energy that's in my body just for that victory.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna do that shit over and over and
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: over and like it too. Psycho nuts. I was one
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: of these practice guys too. I ain't like to miss
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: practice because I was sucky if I did. So if
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: I had a little limp, I'm gonna be out there.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: I needed to look so I can get out there,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Saturday or Sunday. I couldn't
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: miss practice and be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: out there. I didn't feel right if somebody done took
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: my reps.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: He deserved them game reps. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? He may not be ready,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: but he put the work in. Like, I get it.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: But I just didn't feel right doing that. Well, you
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 6: don't want to go out there and wing it either. Yeah,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: but people do that. Y'all seen guys.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: You're like, mama, you ain't practiced all week. And you're
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: going to go out here and try to shoot that
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: tour doll in your ass and play.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: And it don't look good.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 6: We might have made a mistake. We should have had
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: your ass inactive.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: But anyway, you know, anyway, so boom.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: Miami fired what I said, LSU, Katrina. That's why Miami
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: fell apart because you got fired?
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole staff. And he was like, hey, they
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: letting us go. It's going to be a whole new
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: staff coming in. And I kind of, you know, I
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: built a relationship with them. I think Coach Vanderbilt, I
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 6: think Coach Vanderbilt was, I forget who was the D
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: coordinator or the linebacker coach at Miami at the time.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: He may be the head coach at Oklahoma. I think
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 6: it was him.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: No shit. You look that up. What year was it?
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: What was your senior year? Oh, 2009.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: Sorry, not 2009.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Venables might've been.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: At Oklahoma then.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: 2005.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: He might've been at Oklahoma too, but he recruited me too,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: but I didn't go there, obviously. I think Stoops was
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 6: out there too.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: Stoops was out there, so I probably got it mixed up.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: But it was another linebacker because he was well-known. He
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: was legendary. But he was at Miami.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Coach Coker kept it at G's, like, hey, they're
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: letting us all go.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: You might want to go. I don't know who's coming in.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn. And it was probably a good
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: thing because if I had to went down after that,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 6: that's a whole different planet. Cause I was off the
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 6: chain in Gaines, Vegas. Not much going on. I can
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: imagine being in Miami. I used to get down there now.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: Urban hated when we went down there. So it doesn't
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: work out in Miami. You talked about when you met
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: Tim Tebow.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: So I met T's.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: Tell me about the first time you guys met.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 6: The first time I feel like we met during an
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: unofficial visit somewhere. I can't remember what school it was.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: It was like, we was younger. I was like, dang,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: this dude, the quarterback, he's my size.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: That was the first thing I noticed.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's a big ass white boy, the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: more big, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: Straight up, when you see him, you like, damn, that's
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: a quarterback. All my homies from back home, they be like, damn,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: he look like a linebacker B. And you don't see
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 6: many linebackers my size. You know what I'm saying? I
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: was like, no, he a quarterback. He really like that.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: He pound for pound, one of the strongest people on
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: the team. Like shouting records when we was freshmen. But anyway,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: so I meet him on one of these visits. We
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 6: kind of hit it off. you know, change numbers or whatever.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: So then we take our official to Alabama. Coach Shuler
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: was there. And it's funny because it may, saving a
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 6: whole career may be different and Shuler get us. Because
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 6: Coach Shuler, he bring us in. I think Percy was
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: there too. He's like, hey, if I can get y'all
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: three guys, we'll win a lot of ball games. Coach
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 6: Meyer got us and we won a lot of ball.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 6: He ended up getting fired and Saban come in and
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: the rest is his. Did y'all see Saban's documentary?
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. You see who he said the standard was, right? Yeah,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: Irvin Meyer and the Florida Gators.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: We chasing him. We the standard.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 6: That's what, his words, not mine. And that made me
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: feel so good because when they took that third SEC
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 6: championship right out of my hands like that, I was
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: on that bench. Clock struck zero, zero, zero, zero. I
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: was on that bench crying like a baby. Had my
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: head down in the thing. Like literally the game just ended.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 6: Next thing I know, somebody tapped me.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: On my shoulder. I look up.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: It's Coach Saban.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: He says, stand up. Stood up. Shook his hand.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: He hugged me.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: He said, hey, you a hell of a player. You
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: have a great NFL career. I love how you play
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: the game. And good luck till you love these battles.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: I looked him in the eye and said, thank you, Coach.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Still crying.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: Snot bulbs and all. So he had the Shea Urban's
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 6: hand and V-line straight to me.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: He had to. It happened too fast.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: True story.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: And I always knew I would play for him.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: There's certain coaches, Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: I was one of them dudes.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 6: If you ain't got that, I can't respect you. You
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? If you ain't got a little
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: shit about you, you don't put fur in most motherfuckers.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 6: I ain't the average motherfucker, so you can't strike fur
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: in a motherfucker like me. But the rest of these motherfuckers,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: scared ass. I'm going to bump your ass in the
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 6: hall when I see you.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: Ready to work, motherfucker? Let's go. You know you done
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: got one of them. You got one on your roster.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: You did good.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, so boom.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: We there.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 6: Have a great time. Obviously, Urban get us. I went
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: to VTech, too. That was a little too close to
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: home for me. It was a nice campus.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: Beautiful. VTech is awesome. How many was offering something beyond
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: a scholarship?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 4: Whole truth, nothing but the truth. So when it fell
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: through with Miami, you had something kind of going with them?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: It's like, ah, we don't know how this thing's going
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: to look.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 6: We ain't... That ain't even, because it was Miami. What
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: you think was going on? Do y'all think this shit
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 6: just started? Y'all seen blue chips? Don't tell me y'all
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 6: too young to seen blue chips.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Haven't seen blue chips. Y'all better be right. Now all
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: this shit, I'm giving y'all classic sports. Spikes, I was
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: offered by Miami. There was never a dollar figure talked about.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: I have no clue why not. Maybe you just wasn't
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: in the right circles or something. I don't know.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: Fred Taylor came on and he's saying he had that
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: $ 50, 000 brown bag.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: Sitting on his door.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: And what year was that, Will?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: What year was that for Fred Taylor?
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: Early 90s, right? It had to be.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: So you think that just started going on?
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: We've had a few, like Coach O, Orgeron came on,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: and he was saying, well, now you just go in
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: the front door.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: You don't have to go in the back door anymore.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: So, look, and for me, I never– that was cool
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: because I wanted to change.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: 1994. 1994.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: $ 50, 000. And there's inflation.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 6: And we're talking about 10 years later.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: You're getting at least 100.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 6: We're talking about 10 years later. And they ain't won
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: a championship. And we've– Irvin's first class. They ain't won
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: a championship in 10 years. I don't think they've been
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: relevant in 10 years after Coach Spurrier leave, right?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: So, let me ask you this. Do you get the
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: money after you sign or when you say, okay, I
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: commit to Florida?
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, but the whole truth, nothing but the truth. No comment.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: I can't get into detail. I got to save the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 6: shit for my book. That's going to be one of
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: the things I talk about. I got to save shit
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 6: for the pivot for my big brothers.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: Now, down there. Come on now.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Them gators.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: You know I got to save a little. So I'm
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 6: giving y'all a whole lot now. Look, I'm being honest
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: from the get-go. Since I put Step Foot in your
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 6: beautiful office, I've been honest.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: I got one question. What's up? In college in totality,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: Did you sniff seven figures?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Okay. Seven figures is a lot of money,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: but just think about this.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: In totality across four years. Yeah, as a college student,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of money, right?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: That's a lot of money. I ain't going to say that.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: But I really wouldn't know because I didn't come from money.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? It was never for me, honestly.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 6: I did what I wanted to do, but I wanted
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: to make sure my people was good. My mom moved
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: down to Gainesville. Right when I got there, I said,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 6: my whole life, you was like, I can't wait till
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 6: your ass turn 18 to get you. And you followed
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 6: me right here.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: How'd you get here?
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 6: I ain't asking no questions, but hey, mom.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: They can check out the book. She stay in the apartment?
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 6: I ain't answering no questions. All I got was my same.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 6: Those same home cooked meals I got my whole life,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: I got those right there in Gainesville.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: I felt at home.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 6: I never felt out of place.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: I knew Gainesville.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 6: I'm going to get to that, how I committed to Florida.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: So, boom.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 6: You know, we had this special bond right away. I
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: turned on Percy Hallman's film, and I knew that I've
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: never seen anything like that on the tape.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: Nothing like it. Players know you hit the tape. You
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: can tell. It's like, ain't no boo.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: That's your resume.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: That's what everyone does their freshman year. They all get there.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: You get to the dorm. Someone's like, put each.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: Other's tape up.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: They're going to talk their shit.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 6: Put the tape up.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I got to give a dog a shout out. Chris Rainey.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 6: Only high school highlight tape of my own is Christopher Rainey's.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 6: And he got on that one. But the cover is
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: his face in Cheetah. On a half Cheetah, half Rainey.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 6: He had the most crazy highlight tape.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: So fast. So fast.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 6: But he thought he was going to do that shit
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: in Florida. I said, Rayman, you're not going to have
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 6: no 300 rushing yards at halftime, dude.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: Bro, we would be before special teams meeting. We'd have
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: the game up before you hit the meeting on Xbox.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: and you'd just be playing a punt return mode special
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: teams on NCAA and it'd just be rainy to see
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: if you could score.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 6: He was like that. He had eyes, but he was
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: just smaller. He needed, he had to go through the process.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? He wasn't invested in the
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 6: program yet. But when he came around and gained some weight,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 6: he started to do his thing. But anyway, so boom,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: I go, I take my visit to Florida. And I'm
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: going to give you a little something right here. And
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 6: I'm one of the best players on the team. I
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 6: ain't going to say who it is. I'm coming down.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 6: I'm on an unofficial now. I'm on an unofficial visit.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 6: I think it may have been Junior Day. He picks
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 6: me up from the airport. I get in. He riding
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 6: in a big 760. Big boy 760. I think it
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 6: was 760 or 750. I ain't never even been in
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 6: one of them.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: I get in. He on the phone. Basically a semi-truck.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 6: Big BMW, you know, the big body. Anyway, so I
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 6: get in, sit down. He on the phone having a
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: conversation with somebody. I'm like, I know who he is
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: or whatever, like one of the better players on the team.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 6: He having a conversation with.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: Somebody like, oh, it's going to be this, you know,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: to have a sit down. I'm like, what are you
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: He's saying numbers and stuff.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, I said, what, what?
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Y'all doing it like that now?
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 6: I come from nothing. I ain't never had shit. I ain't,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 6: that's the first time I ever, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 6: So he said, watch out, B, watch out.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on. He like, look back now. I
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: look in the back, see? Double bag full of money.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: Most money I ever seen in my life.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 6: It wasn't for me. Obviously, he was a big-time player,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 6: considering coming out or coming back, but it wasn't my money.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna tell you who it was, but right there,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 6: coming from nothing, country boy, struggled. Check to check, my
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: mama did a great thing. She instilled grit and hard
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 6: work in me. Right then and there, I knew I
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 6: was on the right path. Like I had never really
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 6: been around that type of money. I don't know how
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 6: much was in there, but it was a.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: Whole lot, a whole lot. Big, big, whole lot, a.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Lot of it.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 6: And I was just like, he hangs up, he like,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 6: what's up, man? How was your flight? You ready to
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 6: be a gator? And he goes on to show me
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 6: the best time in my life. I might've took 17
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 6: shots of Singer's gin that night too. Just playing Russian Attack.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 6: You brain go mad, you remember Russian Attack? You lose
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 6: on Russian Attack, somebody score, you gotta take a shot.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 6: I probably like 17, I took 17 shots, it definitely
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: was alcohol poisoning.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: But back in the.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: Day, back in the day you have, you know, you
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 6: went on visits, y'all, you know what I'm saying? That's
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 6: part of it.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: You show them a good time, you be a good host.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 6: And number part, people don't understand that Florida was the
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 6: number one party school at the time. We was the
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: number one party school at the time, literally on the map.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 6: You came to Florida games, so many people flunked out
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 6: and you know, it's a high standard and academics is
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 6: like that. But if you, you know, get sucked into it,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 6: to the games Vegas vibes.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: It'll get you.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 6: It'll get you and y'all as a flunk out, you'll
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 6: be somewhere else trying to get back in. And I
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 6: seen it happen all the time. People just come and
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 6: have too good of a time. But you gotta think, basketball,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 6: two national championships, football, two national championships. That'll never happen
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 6: ever again in the history of sports. Literally, I lived
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 6: through four championships. Should have been five. All within four years.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 6: The basketball, we was all tight knit. Like we used
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 6: to go hoop with them at Southwest Red. And guys,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 6: we going at it. Because we had hoopers on our
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 6: team too. People could really get down. Like Percy could
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 6: have played in the NBA easily.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: Leasing.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: What?
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Real hoopers.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 6: We had several people on our team could really get
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 6: out to it on the basketball court.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: Where'd you rank?
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: Probably was four or five. Okay, you still starting?
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: They better.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 6: They want a fucking general on the court. I'm going, hey,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 6: then I'm going to have to mismatch because they're going
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 6: to put a big on me thing because I'm big
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to put that bitch on the floor
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 6: and go right past them. Or I might pull up
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 6: in there and shit. I was not saying I was
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 6: doing that to him, but that's the type of, you know,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 6: my skill set. And I ain't, all my homies are
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 6: going to vouch for this. Like, I ain't just talking
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 6: out my ass. I really love basketball. I saw Big
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 6: Baby playing. I said, damn. I know I'm giving baby
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 6: 10 points. Baby, you should have been a tackle, dawg.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 6: You'd have made 100 mil.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: Like Trent Williams.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: My dawg, out there still getting.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: Hey, Trent's the GOAT.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 6: The GOAT, but that's what baby was one of them
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 6: athletes like that. Imagine him, you know, he had twinkle toes,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 6: real right on his feet, playing ball in the NBA.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: Imagine what he looked like, the tackle.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: Probably would have made more money though in the NBA.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: But was he physical enough?
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: But that position they play, you made some good damn
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: money if you do it right.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 3: They let y'all hold and shit too.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: I would go.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 6: Try for center right now and hold the shit out
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 6: of people.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: That player that had all that money in the back,
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: did he end up coming back?
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Klump can get back there working.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Klump's going to figure out who it is.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 6: He did end up coming back and I ain't saying
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 6: shit else about it.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: That's all right. We'll figure the rest out.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 8: Don't worry.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: I ain't know nothing about nothing at the moment.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 6: This is my first time really in Gainesville and I
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: go in to meet all these awesome players. some my
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 6: age and I knew this environment I want to be
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 6: in because they, they spoke the same language. I'm, I'm,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 6: I'm an outsider come from this small town and I
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 6: come to Gainesville, which is, it ain't that big, but it's, it's,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 6: you know, it's a smaller little community or whatever, but
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: it's all football. Everything runs and operates off the football team.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 6: And I get there and it's just like my football
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 6: town at Crest high school, the people, the camaraderie, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 6: the pride that, that, that, That culture, you don't.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: Have a choice.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: You sign your name on that line, get in line, buddy.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: Get ready.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 6: It's greatness. Expectation is there. You can't come play at
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 6: Florida and not want to be elite or be the best.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 6: That's why I went to Florida. But once I saw
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 6: the culture and the players had this same, they was
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 6: all very driven and ambitious and wanted to be the
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 6: best they could be. A lot of people talk about
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 6: that shit. Yeah, I want to be good, but do you?
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 6: Do you really know what that takes? Do you? Like,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 6: that's what I tell the guys when I talk to
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 6: recruits and I talk to our players. I'm like, tell
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 6: me what you want out of this. Do you want
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 6: to just, you know, take your NIL and stack that
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 6: up and get your degree? And you can do that.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 6: You're very successful. You ain't got no debt.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: You got a couple, you know, dollars, a couple zeros
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: in your account.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 6: No bills. You can start a company, take a couple shots,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 6: miss them. You know what I'm saying? You in a
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 6: good position.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: But let's just.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 6: Have a plan. Let's talk about it right now. Because
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 6: if you ain't ready to take it there, because I'm
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 6: telling you what it takes to be elite and what
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 6: it takes, the time, the discipline, the sacrifice to be
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 6: one of them, somebody that's remembered for life, because that's
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 6: what I wanted to do. Wherever I went, I wanted
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 6: to plant my flag. Like, oh, I was there, and
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 6: you will never forget. I think I did that in
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 6: New England. The way I left, people didn't like that,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 6: but the way I played, they're like, hey, we fucked that.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 6: I think they called me the Sandman. That was my nickname.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: Just put people to sleep. You want to go night-night,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: don't you? Learn about that in the intro. Hey, it's true.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 6: That was like the nickname. But anyway, so boom.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: How long had Urban been there at the time?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 6: He had been there for a year. So it was
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 6: his first year, and we was his first class.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: He was in this first season.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 6: He was always in this first season.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: So you were part of the culture change. He started
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: off pretty good, too.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was part of the culture change or whatever
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 6: because I think Coach Zook was the coach that Urban
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 6: came into.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 6: He acquired a really good roster, too. A lot of
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 6: people don't talk about it. I tease him a lot
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: of times. He had some dogs when they had a
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 6: team because when they graduated, we graduated a a pretty
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 6: experienced team, like 26 to 27 seniors in the sophomore year,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 6: all sophomore year. Again, like I told y'all in my
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 6: high school, it was my team now, especially defensively. All
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 6: the leaders gone, everybody at play. I'm about to do
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 6: what I got to do, you know, earn that role,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 6: earn that title where I'm the guy we need to play.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: Look to me to make it.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, the game on the line?
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 6: Please come my way so I can make your ass pay.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 6: You know, some of them dudes like, don't throw that
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 6: shit my way. Don't come my way, I hope they
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 6: don't come my way. You know some guys had that
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 6: in the back of mind. I hope they don't, man,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 6: I hope they don't throw it at me. I live
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 6: for that shit. I live for the moment. And that's
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 6: why I was able to make big plays sometimes. Cause
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I've done this in my dream a hundred
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 6: times already. Like I was obsessed with the game, running
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 6: a four nine out that big. Make every play on
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: the field. That's why people, when they seen I ran slow,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 6: they was like, what the?
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking you ain't take training serious. Bro, no, no, no, no.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna say.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: When you ran five, I was upset. Hell no.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 6: We didn't run 40s where I was from. We was
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 6: football players. The first time I ran a 40 was
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 6: that first off season. So going into my sophomore year, that's,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 6: you know, people see your times and stuff. I had
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 6: never even ran a 40. I got down. I was like,
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 6: how you get down, man? Because I don't know if
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 6: a linebacker ran a motherfucking, chasing a motherfucking straight line,
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 6: he ain't do his job. I thought my job was
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 6: not to let these bitches get past me. I don't
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 6: got to open up if they can't get past me.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 6: Come on now. I'll get you that way.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: I'll get you that way. Where you going to go?
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: I'm on your ass.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 6: But if you get past me and I'm chasing you,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 6: I ain't doing my job.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: Right or wrong?
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 6: Come on now.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: No, you're right. No, no, no. You're right, but there's
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: also 11 guys and there's a lot of shit that
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 3: can go down. And you're trying to tell us you
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 3: didn't know how to run a 40?
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 6: My teammates, I'm telling you, they're going to get.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: In the comments and he's like, he is not lying.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 3: They were like, what? You looked a little out of
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: breath after the 42. Listen, listen. No, I trained. Hey,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: pull up his 40.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 6: You know what, it's time to face the motherfucking phone.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 6: I'm finally ready to come to realization that I lost
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. I've never talked about none of this
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 6: stuff publicly because that shit, I still think about losing
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. I still think about losing my third
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 6: SEC championship. I know that sounds kind of fucked up.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 6: You got two, Spice.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 6: Let somebody else get something.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't even sniff it. Was it your senior year
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: you lost the third one?
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the third. We won 23 or 24 in a row.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 6: I hadn't lost a game in two years, damn near.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: That was part of the fucking trivia question. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 4: Did you play with that? Was that DN on the roster?
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he maybe left for you. you
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: got there.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: He had to. Jarvis Moss?
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: He was in that documentary called The Raging Bull. Came
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: from Miami Northwestern.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, he was older than me.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: That's T.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: Diddy ass.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 6: Nah, I ain't playing with him. He was supposed to
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 6: be the next big thing when that doc came out.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 6: He couldn't cut it. T. Diddy, you know I fuck
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 6: with you, but I call it speedy speed. You ain't
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 6: got it, you ain't got it. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 6: He should have probably went to Valdosta State. They need
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 6: players too now. Valdosta, hey, they need players.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 6: Hey, Valdosta, kick your ass. Troy, you want to play?
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 6: They got some dudes. But SEC just different, bro. People
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 6: always say, man, that shit overrated, isn't it? I'm telling you,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 6: it's the closest thing to the NFL.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 3: Because, for one, the money.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 6: I didn't get the experiences like that, the way they experienced,
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: because I know I would have made NIL with Brandon
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 6: Sprites going for four years, three-time All-American, I had 100
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 6: tackles every year I started, over 100 tackles, six picks,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 6: four for touchdowns, a couple of forced fumbles, a couple
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 6: of eye gouges, a couple of championships. I think I
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 6: would probably have made a whopping eight to 10 mil.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 6: In four years? Because you know what? You know what
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 6: I would have did, though? I would have hit him
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 6: with this. After that second, third year, I would have
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 6: got my little money. I would have, hey, I'll come back.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 6: Y'all buy me two houses on University. And let me
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 6: get them. Let me buy those, put them in my name,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 6: and I'll be back. And I'm going to convince Percy
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 6: to come back, too. Because if Percy come back, we
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 6: win with a breeze. Both of them, SEC championship, AFC championship,
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 6: Percy Harvin come back and not enter the league, which
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 6: that broke my heart. I love Peter Dell, but that
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 6: shit broke my heart because we took a pat, like
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 6: a blood bond, you know, as 06. That's how tight
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 6: we was.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: We came in this motherfucker together. We're going to leave together.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 6: Then we had a chance to do something nobody had done,
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 6: I think, before Saban did it, winning three out of four.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 6: We could have done that shit. We was this close
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 6: to doing that shit, literally. And that whole season was
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 6: crazy because you do get numb to winning. Like I've
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 6: always liked the target on my back.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, you think you want the big dog?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 6: Come on, let's see what you got. You know what
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? But it just felt good to see Saban
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: say that. Cause I would look at Mickey Marotti. He up,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 6: you know, shout out to Ricky. He do real, real
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 6: glue eye shit. He up at Ohio State now. Why
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 6: Jeremiah Smith is what he is. He's a generational talent, right?
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 6: But when you add Mickey Marotti in the equation, Cause he,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 6: you was right.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: I hated training.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: I was a Hooper.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 6: I had a Hooper mentality. I was still physical and aggressive,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 6: but I was off.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: I ain't living no goddamn way.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 6: Especially when I'm dominating shit. Like you, I saw you
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 6: squat 600 pounds and I just literally, I ran through
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 6: your face. I spent on you. I dipped and ripped
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 6: on you. You can't do nothing.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: I got the offer. And I got a whole bag
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: of tricks, but my number one trick is to run
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: through your fucking face.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 6: Just, just for the hell of it. Just, oh, you
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 6: the bad motherfucker on the team. Let me take his wheel.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 6: You know how Troy, he step out there. They're like,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 6: the big motherfucker out there looking like, who you got
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 6: for me?
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 4: One-on-one.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 6: Go get him.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: He come up there. And little boy say, what, you
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: gonna fight him? What'd he say? That's why ain't nobody
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 3: gonna remember your name, son. That shit cold. Hey, that
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: shit cold. That shit cold as fuck. Hey-ya!
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 6: I'm a movie buff if you haven't noticed, guys.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 3: That scene is insane. That scene is wild, yes. You
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: look at that shit and say, That's why.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody going to remember your name. The kids, they
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 6: be like, damn, Coach, we in Japan. People recognize you.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 6: It's not just the face.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: It's the way I play. I literally was game all
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: my life. I love that shit that much. And it's
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: fucked up.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 6: I think I'm brainwashed or some shit. That's why when
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 6: I went to New England, I fit right in. Motherfucker
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 6: got A.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: Brainwashed. Literally. I started out in psychology. I ain't going
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: to say I majored. They kicked me the fuck out
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 6: It was a standard. You got to keep a certain GPA.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 6: But I know about the game, the mind games. Football
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 6: is still 80% mental. That'll never change. You know what
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? Y'all remember the conditioning test? Motherfuckers done trained
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 6: all season for that. All season. Go out there and fail.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about night shape. This and that. They mental
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 6: ain't right.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 6: Anxiousness, you know, all the coaches sitting out there watching.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? Or have you been doing
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 6: what you're supposed to do on the off season?
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 3: Bill, ask me that. Ask me that.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: You, Bill, ask me.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 3: Have you been doing what you need to do this
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 3: off season?
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 6: Lockout coach? Absolutely not. I spent 30 days in Vegas.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 6: 30 days watched every show they had off.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: Every last one of them.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 6: I turned 21 and I went to Vegas and they
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 6: locked it out. And I went there for Memorial Weekend
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 6: and ended up staying a whole month.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: A whole month?
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 6: Bro, I had just turned 21. I turned 21. That's
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 6: when the lockout year.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 4: So it's fair to assume he didn't take the training
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 4: serious for the 40.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 6: That's where I was getting at it.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: He's right.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 6: But no, when I met Mickey Mirati, though, I didn't
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 6: have a choice. Like my rookie year, sorry, my freshman year,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 6: I had never really trained like that. And we ran
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 6: a tight-knit program in high school. I just was a hoop.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 6: I used to be shooting for dollars and a P
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 6: while I was supposed to be with different weights and
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 6: weight training. I just was like, come on.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, back then you couldn't go out. Right now, NIL,
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: in May, they can go out and do whatever they
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: want for a month.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 6: No, we had one of them type programs now, but
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: A multi-sport player.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: They said you could leave in Florida?
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: What you mean?
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: When you went to Florida, it was training. Oh, hell yeah.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, hell no, you couldn't leave. No, you couldn't leave.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: You get one week off every quarter.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: That was good for us because we would have gotten
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: into some shit. Yeah. No doubt.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: I never did. That roster?
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm talking about? My record is clean.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 6: Never been in no hiccups. Don't have a record. And
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 6: I'm proud to say that.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, dude.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 6: Because I was in the locker room with some real,
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 6: real deal Holyfields. And I love Herb because he made
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 6: it all work. All these personalities, all these different egos
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 6: in his shit.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 6: A whole lot of good energy, a lot of masculine energy,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 6: a lot of alphas in there, but What's an alpha
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 6: amongst the rest of the alphas?
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: What is he?
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: Apex.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: Apex.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: That is. And what's an apex? Y'all know what I'm getting?
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 6: That great white shark. Great white shark. And he by himself.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 6: I like the killer whales. I like them.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: But they roam in schools. Killer whale would murder a
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: great white.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 6: Hold on, because he's going to have a school. He's
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 6: going to have some help, some backup will. He don't
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 6: need no help to take down a great white. But
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 6: he ain't solo out there. He ain't solo out there.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 6: They in schools.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: Look it up.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 6: Now, we can talk about this.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: You need to dive in a little bit deeper.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: Bro, show me a whale. Show a whale that's fucking
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: up a great white.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: He would be on the orca whale. He would be
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: in his pockets, like, I'm an orca whale. Wait, no,
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: I see. That's what I see. You are an orca whale.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 3: Now I am.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: Because the whole thing you've been talking about this whole
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: time is like community, team. I need somebody to tell
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: me that they have my back. That's all orcas are about.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 6: The gorilla population, same thing. This bond is connected.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: This sense of....
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Togetherness.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 6: You know when they, what's the reason why I don't
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 6: fuck with whales and I need to fuck with them more? Sorry,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 6: killer whales. But reason why I don't, because what's the documentary, man?
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: Blackfish.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 6: Man, that shit broke my heart, bro.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: I can't, bro.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 6: That shit made me cry. I'm a grown-ass man. That
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 6: shit grabbed me, bro, because I love animals, you know
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying? Like, I don't trust people that don't
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 6: got pets. So any of you motherfuckers on the bus
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 6: that ain't got no pets, I'ma sense it. I got
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 6: a sixth sense. That's why I ain't like Ray Rice's
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 6: little ass. I used to be out there trying to
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 6: kill his little ass. Cause I knew he was putting
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 6: his hand on women.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: Dog, I'm a dog.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 6: You know, dogs come around somebody fucked up. They, he
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 6: don't fucking know goddamn body. I knew. Cause I ain't,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 6: I supposed to kill him. He was like, come on now.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 6: I ain't get hyped to.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: Play against him. Bill, I supposed to kill him.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: Like he run hard.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 6: He wouldn't have no disrespect, but this is what.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: I'm here to do. This is my motherfucking job. You
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: ain't getting no rest.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 6: All that shit you was doing is over now.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: I'm here.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 6: And Bill drafted me just to stop your ass. All
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 6: of that running shit they were doing in that conference
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 6: during that time. Bill personally said, hey, stop all of it.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 6: And we can go to the Super Bowl. And guess
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 6: what we did?
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: Stop it.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: Easy too.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 6: I said, this shit easy, man. I ain't even really
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 6: serious about this shit. I ain't no professional yet. I
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 6: was never professional.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, how soon after that unofficial visit did you commit
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: to Florida?
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: So, boom.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: So, no, no, no.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: So, boom.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 6: I go back, you know. I'm like, damn, that was special.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: That was cool.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 6: I knew I had to get to work, though, because
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 6: I seen, you know, what I was against. And I
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 6: didn't give a, I wasn't looking at the roster like, oh,
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 6: they got a sophomore. You know, some people are like, oh,
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 6: they got a sophomore, red shirt. Just give a fuck
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 6: who they are. Whoever it is, I'm going to go
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 6: earn my keep. I'm going to go get what I
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 6: deserve and make my way. Don't give me shit because
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 6: it don't mean the same when somebody just gives you
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 6: some shit. Let me earn it and gain the respect
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 6: of my teammates. And they're like, hey, because it started
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 6: to happen during the season when I was a freshman
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 6: because I'm smoking their ass again on offense. That's the star.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 6: That's Chris Lee.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 6: I'm killing their ass. I'm literally killing them. And I
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 6: ain't even sniff the field.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: God damn. Car wheels on my pants. Nothing.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 6: My uniform clean as hell, bro. I'm out there cheering.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, good job.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 6: Because freshmen, you know we all talking shit. What we
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 6: going to do when we come in? Brandon James crushing it.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 6: Tim Tebow crushing it. Percy Harvey. All my freshman homies
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 6: did exactly what they did. But guess where I was at?
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 6: Over there rooting with a splinter in my ass. But
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 6: I did my job. And I was proud of whatever
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 6: it was. But I said, if they ever call my
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 6: number and say, Spikes, you in, you might not get
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 6: your job back. And that's what they knew, right? I
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 6: think my very first player in college in the Swamp,
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 6: I made the tackle for loss. And it was against,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 6: I think his name was Kenny Smith. He may be
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 6: a coach now. He played for UCF, USF, he was
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 6: a running back. Played for Detroit Lions for a long time. Smith,
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 6: y'all young though, y'all ain't young. Yeah, he was a
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 6: hell of a player, but I tackle him for loss.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 6: I think Brandon Sala, hell man. And let's talk about
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 6: that shit, too, because Netflix act like he passed me
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 6: the keys and shit. I was him as soon as
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 6: I stepped in Gaines, Vegas.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: I was ready.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 6: Urban had convinced everybody that I wasn't invested yet.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 6: He just wanted me to... You know what I'm saying?
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 6: I talked a lot, too, but... I talk like that
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 6: because I don't talk so much shit. I got to
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 6: go back it up now. So I'm like, I'm going
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 6: to bust your ass and go out there and get smoked.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 6: They're going to be like, man, shut your ass up. Spike,
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 6: you ain't hitting on shit. Oh, Wolf, you just talking smoke.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 6: You ain't shit.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 6: I'll talk that shit and go be about that shit.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 6: And every team I ever played for, all on my team.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 6: I usually knock people out. My teammates look at me like, hey,
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 6: you all right? Because I go to this place. They
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 6: can see it in my eyes.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: They're like.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 6: Imagine somebody telling you I'm going to knock your ass out.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 6: Then I'd go put you to sleep. You done for
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 6: the day. You had about 30 more plays on that
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 6: motherfucking call sheet. He's done.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: Change of plans. Oh, look at that foot. Oh, hell nah.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 6: Look at how handsome right there too. Damn, look how
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 6: skinny I was.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 3: Look at me. Hey, and I felt like I was
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: running by. I thought I was 4'5, 4'6. Nah, I
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: thought I was about 4'6.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 6: That motherfucker felt like forever. You know how, look at
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 6: that stand.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: That 10 was straight though.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 10 was fine. Hey, I couldn't get that bitch
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: out of neutral though. Hey, look. You know how that
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: ball on the movies.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably don't know.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: I keep going.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 6: That ball bouncing around in a slow motion.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's got to go in you. Was that
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 3: High School Musical? Yeah, like one of them.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, now we talking. Oh shit, I was joking. But
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: it's one of them.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: That's how it was when I was running through that
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: motherfucking line.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: Hoosiers?
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm running through that line.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's taking a long time.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 6: And Pro Day was like a game.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: That motherfucker was packed the whole, all the big time.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you see it in that video.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 6: I think Ozzy, and that's what got me, dog, because
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 6: they tricked me. I ain't going to create Madison. He
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 6: treated me, he was a Michigan defense coordinator, but he
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 6: was a defense coordinator. I trusted him because he helped
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 6: recruit me and stuff.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: I love Greg.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: Greg Madison's the man. He was my DC.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 6: So you know what you're talking about.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: Good dude. Love him to death.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 6: So he was a DC at the Baltimore Ravens and
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 6: he was on the end when Ray Luz was on
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 6: his way out. So Izy come down. I didn't do
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 6: nothing at the combine. And I damn sure wasn't finna
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: do nothing at the pro day. I was just going
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 6: to do interviews, talk my shit. I might've gave him
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 6: a little drift.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: But for what?
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 6: I'm a number one linebacker both years in a row.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 6: Number one junior year, number one second year. Normally you
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 6: drop when you come back your senior year. I was
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 6: a number one backer both years. Like first thing off
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 6: the board. I be damned. Soon as I came through
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 6: that line, broski, I felt a come out the stadium.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 6: Everybody was, everybody, just that same reaction you had. Imagine
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 6: about 40,000 like that. I felt it too.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, Good. So why'd you run?
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 6: Because Greg, he was like, listen, Ozzy down here, they
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 6: done came down here. You didn't do nothing at the combine.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 6: You're the next Ray.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 3: You plug and play. He retired.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 6: It's going to be your defense. Same passion, same energy,
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 6: same presence. We want you to come in and just
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 6: pick up where, you know, when he leave. That's what
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 6: they was wanting. They done talked me into that, talked
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 6: my age. Grant, I ain't done shit the whole time.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: What for?
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 6: Turn on the tape.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: I got four years, look at my body of work.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: You didn't train for a combat?
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 6: No, I trained, but I didn't have to do any
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 6: of the drills, for one. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 6: I'm number one, junior and senior. I got plenty of championships.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: How'd they talk your agent into allowing you to run?
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 6: He was young, young agent, first agent. And I'm a guy,
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 6: I'm a lawyer guy. I have been rocking with him
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 6: since I was.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, since high, yeah.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 6: And I couldn't do nobody like that, because I know
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 6: people would kill your ass for 10 grand.
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 6: Ain't no way I can sleep at night knowing I
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 6: done did somebody wrong. You know what I'm saying? That
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 6: ain't just how I was raised. For one, it ain't right.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: And for two, I ain't gonna be able to look
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: at the man in the mirror and be like, oh,
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 3: I got over on that guy. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 6: I ain't built like that. Money ain't everything for me.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 6: Like I told you, I played the game for free
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 6: and got hurt whatever. I enjoyed ball that much. You
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? But to be down there, And
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 6: Florida experienced that. And I always, it was just exactly
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 6: what I thought it would be. Like, if you talk
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 6: to some of my high school teammates, everything I'd done,
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 6: accomplished in high school, in college, I talked about it
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 6: when we was in middle school. They would call me
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 6: the prophet. They'd be like, B, everything you ever accomplished,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 6: you talked about that shit. We wasn't even talking about
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 6: the Army All-American game. I said, hey, we didn't even
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 6: have cable TV.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that shit was on ABC
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: or something. It came on regular TV. I said, oh,
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be in that game one day. I'm
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: going to be in that game one day. In it.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 6: I'm going to win a couple of national championships too.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: Win a couple.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to win a fucking Super Bowl. And
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 6: that's the one thing I can't, you know. 2012 was
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl. I had my best game while
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 6: in the NFL. In the Super Bowl. Like, I'll never
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 6: forget Bill leading up to that. You know, it's a
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 6: long way, you know. I don't know if y'all know. Sorry,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 6: I ain't trying to be.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 3: 2012, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, you use a lot of practice
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 6: and stuff. So I think one week I was probably
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 6: like a pound overweight. Two pounds of weight, long time,
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 6: get cold in New England, you don't sweat the same
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 6: when it get negative 10 degrees out there mama. But anyway,
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 6: he bring me in the office like, you weighed in,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 6: you're overweight. I said, Cole, I got in the sun,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 6: y'all got my weight too. He said, I don't wanna
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 6: hear any excuses. Why weren't you the best linebacker in
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 6: the NFL, Spike?
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: I said, whoa.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 6: In my head, I'm like, man, things too high on me.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 6: I just like the game. It's a child's game. We
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 6: get a king's ransom. It's the same game I play.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 6: I only play because I can insult a man and
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 6: not get a charge.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: It's kind of fun.
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: But that's it.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 6: I only play for the wins and just enjoy me.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 6: It's a child's game. Nothing more, nothing less. When that
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 6: shit become a job to me, I'm going to walk
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 6: away from that shit. Because I never looked at the
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 6: clock when I'm watching film. I get lost in it.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 6: I was upset. Just one of them motherfuckers like that.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. This is my defense.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: I caught it. Coach called it. I knew the situation.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 6: Did he say anything? I got us out the down, dude. Like,
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 6: I got off on that because I felt like that
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 6: was my job.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: Like, I had to.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 6: If, you know, the mic go out, I got to
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 6: motherfucking conduct the troops. Get us out the call. Get
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 6: us out the down. Like, I felt the obligation when
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 6: you get that dot. It ain't just about you. You
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 6: got to get the rest of these slapdicks lined up.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 6: You know how they, you know them D-line. I'm going
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 6: to get locked in. It's like, damn, man.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: Coach, just keep that shit simple.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: Because he, you know, come on.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: When you were at Florida.
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 3: What year? Cam Newton was with you for one year?
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 6: So Cam was with, no, Cam was with us for
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 6: like three, I feel like three years.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 3: Three years? And then he went to Juco.
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 6: So Cam came in. I honestly think their class was
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 6: better than our class, that 07 class. Because out of
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 6: my class, we got four Hall of Famers. Brandon James,
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 6: Percy Harvin, Tim Tebow. and some psychopath named Brandon Virgil Spikes.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 6: We all in the UF Athletic Hall of Fame, all
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 6: in one class. That's crazy. We all already in there, motherfucker.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 6: Some people get in when they're 50, 60, 70, you
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? We in there, motherfucker. Then you
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 6: think about that next class. You got Joe Hayden. You
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 6: got Major Wright. You got Ahmaud Black. You got Aaron Hernandez.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 6: You got Cam Newton. You got the Pouncey Twins. You
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 6: got Marcus Gilbert.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 6: You got Janoris Jenkins. You got, like, literally, I didn't
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 6: have to, you know, you got Carlos Dunlap.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 6: And some say if he play in that SEC championship,
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 6: we win, too, without Percy. Because we beat them the
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 6: first time without Pete, which I didn't like, but we won.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 6: I couldn't believe we could win a game without Pete
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 6: because he's the best player I've ever played with by far.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 6: None of this shit happened. They might win some games
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 6: without Brandon Virgil Spice. We don't do none of that
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 6: shit without Percy Harvin. And I go to my grave
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 6: believing that shit.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: Real talk.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: What was the situation with Cam? He stole a computer?
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know about all of it.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: Did he?
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: Nah, I think he did.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 6: He did.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know though. But hey, the reason why I
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 3: asked that question is all this stuff, you get in
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 3: the car, there's a bunch of money in the back,
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 3: Urban Meyer, there's a lot of gray area.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 6: At the University of Florida.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: But it's just a computer. So why is Cam getting
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 3: kicked out for a computer?
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if he got, I don't think
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 6: that was like his first offense. I believe in first,
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 6: I believe in first and second chances. But third and fourth,
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 6: I don't know what, I told you, you got to
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 6: conduct yourself a certain way playing quarterback at the University
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 6: of Florida. That's why I would never go to that
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 6: position because- It's too much pressure. You can't really make mistakes.
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 6: You gotta be damn near perfect. Like literally.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: We win.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 6: Then you got Tim Tebow. He ain't thinking about being
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 6: with us partying or chasing no girls. He in his Bible.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 6: He in his playbook.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: He handling his books.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 6: And he all football. Eat, sleep, and shit football. That's
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 6: what we was. I like to add a little. partying
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 6: there for me though. I like to have a good
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 6: time and enjoy. Like I said, I had a brother.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 6: You take all those things and add just a little
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 6: bit of partying. It's Gainesville Vegas for a reason. Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 6: Like if you can burn it on both ends, why not?
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 6: I burned the count now. Like same way I felt
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 6: like I was a rock star doing it on the end.
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 6: I would come in there and work my ass off
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 6: the same way. Cause I couldn't do it to the game.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 6: I could not, you know, disrespect the game. Cause it
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 6: did so much to me. I'm like, I ain't finna
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 6: come in here and bullshit. Cheat a couple of reps.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 6: That young Brandon Virgil Spice now, he wasn't Alva Mac
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 6: yet when I first in him. Like that first year,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 6: that strip conditioning shit was some of the hardest shit
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 6: I've done in my life. Mickey Marotti.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 3: But guess what? He turned me into a fucking beast.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 6: When I finally embraced it and accepted the process and
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 6: got into it, Motherfucker turned me into a psycho. Literally,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 6: they called me the predator. I was on a whole
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 6: nother level. I felt invincible. Once I started training and shit,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 6: I knew I was good just because nobody could match
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 6: my intensity. I just knew right there. They could match
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 6: in the first couple of plays, but they couldn't maintain
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 6: it throughout the game. I was on full go, four quarters.
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 6: From one month, so I walk out, out there, once
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 6: I put on that uniform, wolfing. Referee like, shut up.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, do your fucking job, Zebra. This ain't
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 6: no fucking elementary school, middle school. I'm going to swear
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 6: out here, sir.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: No disrespect. Get the car all right. You talking to
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: a grown ass man? What you talking about?
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: No, Carson. What?
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 6: What is this a no fun league for real?
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 6: You just told me not to swear at this ground, man.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 6: What you talking about?
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 4: What was it like for you watching that 30 for 30?
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 4: I want to say you alluded to it earlier about
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 4: when he was passing the keys to you, that linebacker.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 4: Is that what you were talking about?
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: The documentary, the swamp?
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: First off, the thing that's fucked up about that documentary
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 3: is they did it in like what, a 30 minute episode?
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: That should have been multiple parts.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: I think it was four episodes.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: Was it four episodes? Yeah, it was a few episodes.
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 3: What am I thinking about then? Because if Netflix didn't.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 4: Run on it, you came out of that documentary thinking
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of meat left on the bone.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of meat on the bone.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: So much.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 6: Cam said he may do it with his production company.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot of meat. Bro,
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: I got a hundred stories, bro.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 6: I told y'all earlier, it was three things that Brandon
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 6: versus Spikes wanted to be, right?
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: I wanted to have great penmanship. I failed at that.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: My shit is chicken scratch.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 6: My mom's handwriting is beautiful. My brother's great penmanship.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: I failed at that.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 6: And the second thing, I want to be a well-rounded man, right?
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 6: I think I, you know, I feel like I could
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 6: talk a little bit about anything. We can have any
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 6: type of conversations I can, you know, carry it. I
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 6: always thought that was great for athletes to be able
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 6: to speak on stuff outside of sports, you know, because
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 6: some people, even students at our school, they're not coming
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 6: there for the sports, especially not now. Back in the day,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 6: one of them wanted to go through that experience now. Like,
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? That academic shit is secondary.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 6: I'm finna have a good damn time. But you know,
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 6: now these guys, like these students, they don't care about
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 6: none of that. So you gotta get out in the world.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 6: You gotta go meet them. Hey, how you doing? I'm Brandon.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 6: Where you from? You like this class? Can I see
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 6: your notes? I don't want to cheat. Can I get
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 6: them notes, though? I know you're going to turn some
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 6: great notes, but you know what I'm saying? They dare
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 6: for academics. But they know we were students and stuff
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 6: like that. So obviously that community, that's what's great about
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 6: you winning. You see when we won four games in
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 6: a row, my mother was like, yay, hooray, hooray. The
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 6: Gators are back. It's good when Florida Gators good. Then
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 6: we dropped two. And everybody like, fire everybody. I'm like,
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 6: the fans is... You know, it's kind of like that
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 6: with Buffalo Bills. It's kind of like that with New England. Like,
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 6: I thrive in those type of environments because they'll never
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 6: be able to say, hey, let's get rid of that
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 6: mama because I ain't never been on nobody's bubble. I
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 6: always had a roster spot until I walked out of
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 6: that building. I got myself out of the league. I
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 6: ain't going to talk about that. That's going to be
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 6: in the book, though. But, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 6: But I've never been on nobody's bubble. Like, I was
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 6: one of the guys, always. I'm talking about that's from,
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 6: you know. I got some good stories with that. I
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 6: got a Richie and Cotton Neato story, too. I know
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 6: you're going to like that.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 3: Tell me what you're going to hear. I knew you
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: were going to like that. Hang on. Well-rounded. Hey, what's
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 3: the last thing? I like you.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: And the last thing is.
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 6: Let me take my shit. Let me take my shit.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 6: Because I got to find it. I've been running my
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 6: pothole too much. And the last thing is. Tell me
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 6: what the last thing is.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 3: Be a good storyteller.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, you listen when I talk.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I have to.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 6: I've just been talking like a motherfucker.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, you got to follow shit too.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, I like that, but that's it. One, so
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 6: we can get a good clip.
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 6: One, great penmanship. Two, well-rounded man. And three, be a
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 6: great storyteller. I thought that if I could somehow become
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 6: strong in these areas, these areas. I think I have
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 6: a chance in the real world. Just in the real world,
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 6: outside of sports. Cause I've never seen myself as just
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 6: football guy. I've never wanted football to define me. I
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 6: always use it as a stepping stone.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 6: Like, but I had that type of support system. My
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 6: mom was like, Hey son, you more than a football player.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 6: You damn good. We'll get in there and watch them
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 6: damn dishes.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: Like I told you.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 6: Then I tell you, clean up that room. Give you
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 6: a parade. All American. Shit. We got rules in there.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 6: As long as we in my house, under my roof,
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 6: we're going to farm like that. I can't wait to
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 6: get up out this morning. Follow me right to Gainesville.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 6: Follow me right to Gainesville.
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 3: We were talking before the podcast and Aaron Hernandez was
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 3: brought up. Clearly, you're a good storyteller. I'll let you
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 3: have the floor on that.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: I have to pee? Keep going.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 3: You heard this part. And then if I miss something.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: Good, just catch me.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you when you get back because I have
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 3: to pee too, so we'll tap out. We'll tap out.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to break the.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 6: Because I know once I go, I'm going to go
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 6: like a pregnant lady.
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: So you met Aaron Hernandez. Everyone knows the story. Grob
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 3: comes on here, talks about stories. I asked him, there's
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 3: a rumor always in the NFL of the Titans. Like
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 3: guys who come for the Patriots be like, yo, Aaron
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 3: Hernandez was like, he's a psychopath. Like he would jerk
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 3: off in team meeting rooms. He would do crazy shit.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 3: Obviously the documentary comes out. He's gay, but he's not gay.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: This guy comes out, but he never admitted it. Obviously
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 3: was in prison for murder. But you had firsthand experience
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: That was my brother. I buried him. I was there.
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: His daughter's my goddaughter.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 6: That story is just, I finally got to a place
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 6: where I can even speak on it. This is my
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 6: first time even publicly speaking on that. And he's once
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 6: a friend, always a friend. I'm one of them type
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 6: of guys. I'm like, we're going to take this shit
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 6: to the end. Everybody make mistakes. I wouldn't even feel
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 6: like a lawyer friend if something happened. I make mistakes
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 6: and my people, I'm able to get through the whole
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 6: thing because my support system, people that still have my back,
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 6: they didn't really gravitate to the fact that I was
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 6: Brandon Spice, the player, but I'm Brandon Spice, the person.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 6: That's what they enjoy and like. I always had that
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 6: type of support system. So I wanted to obviously provide
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 6: that for him. No matter what happened, I got an
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 6: older brother in prison for life. Life with no paroles,
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 6: been down since 2001. I am him, everything. And you
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 6: think I was gonna stop talking to my brother? You
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? I would never, no matter what happened.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 6: And it is a sticky situation. People died and it's
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 6: a tragedy for both sides by far. But at the
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 6: same time- You.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: Have empathy for that situation, but you also have your brother.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna always, because it is what it is. It's life.
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 6: Life isn't fair. And I understand that. I've had a
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 6: lot of highs, but I had some lows too. And
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 6: I was able to get through that with a support
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 6: system and the right mindset, having that willpower, that mental toughness.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 6: I think that's very important. And football kind of taught
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 6: me that. I think everything that I basically failed at
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 6: or had a hiccup in, it was necessary. It was
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 6: part of my development. That shit had to happen. Like
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 6: for me to get to this spot, this Brandon Spikes,
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 6: the well-rounded man, I had to take some L's. But
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 6: now I'm in a space now where I can teach
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 6: and I can guide and I can lead and I
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 6: can like, They ain't got what you need to do.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 6: We ain't doing that. I didn't have a brand of
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 6: spice around when I was there. I had to fuck
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 6: it up. And I still had my brothers and my
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 6: supporters and my family. I had all of that. But
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 6: we built that type of culture that, I think a
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 6: lot of times, that's what a lot of these dudes
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 6: coming in with this me mentality. Ah, what can you
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 6: do for me?
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 6: This is a team game. What are you talking about?
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 6: I get that you, obviously we know what's at hand
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 6: and what you could, At arm's reach, you work your
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 6: whole life and I get all that. But I don't
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 6: want those type of players that's solely focused on money.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 6: You gotta be focused on the process, the development part
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 6: of it. Because that's one reason probably why college players
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 6: can't go straight pro. You know what I'm saying? Because
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 6: it's development. It's grown men. You know how that go.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 6: You ain't developed. As a younger man, you still ain't
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 6: where you need to be.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 3: It's a process.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 6: It's... Endless reps, unlimited reps. You gotta like, that's what
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 6: I wanted, the reps. And I felt better. You know,
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 6: I was one of these, you know I like to
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 6: see it in the field, but I want to go
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 6: on the field and get it done.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a visual learner.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was a visual learner. Yes, exactly.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 3: What was the experience like? Like you said, it's your brother,
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 3: that's your guy. He was the class we were talking about.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we were talking about Chico. Yeah, he was, you know,
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 6: when he first got there, Urban, you know, I obviously
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 6: helped recruit all of those. I still recruit to this day.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 6: The team we got right now, I helped retain a
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 6: lot of those players. I don't want no pat on
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 6: the back or none of that.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 3: I love Florida.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 6: I'll do that shit for anything just to see us
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 6: get back to the promised land. I want to do
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 6: my part. And I don't need no fucking credit for that.
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 6: My flag is in the ground. I'm good. I just
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 6: want to see these kids be better than me and
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 6: not make some of the same mistakes I made when
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 6: I was their age.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: Young, dumb, and full of cum.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: Y'all gonna like that one.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 3: Y'all gonna like that one.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 6: Straight up, though, that's what I was. Young and dumb
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 6: and full of cum. Like, I'm going to help you
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 6: through this whole process. And it ain't just one year,
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 6: two years. Once I build a relationship with y'all, that's
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 6: why I try to tell y'all when I first got here,
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 6: I'm locked in with y'all. Y'all need me for anything.
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 3: I'm one of them.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 6: And once I build a relationship with a young player
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 6: and I see he can go somewhere, or I'm very,
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 6: very honest, too. I'm going to be frank. Like, baby,
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 6: you ain't built for this. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 6: Take advantage of the opportunity, though. You got this great
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 6: opportunity to get a... Great education from this elite institution.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 6: One of the best in the country. And that's all good.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: All positive. You win.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 6: And I'd be sure to reassure them and encourage them
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 6: to focus on that. Because you really ain't want to
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 6: go to that dark side, what it's going to take
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 6: to be average.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 6: Just to be average. You really want to be great, elite.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 6: You got to go to a whole nother place.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 6: And it takes so much and so much. And I
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 6: was a little different. I was able to thrive. But
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think I really reached my potential, though. Because
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 6: I was never a pro. I just, you know, it
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 6: was fun. I wanted to have a good time doing it.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 6: And obviously I was living for my big brother too,
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 6: cause he was locked up. I had to do everything
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 6: double duty. Cause I wanted to, you know, he obviously
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 6: I could talk to him or whatever, still hug him,
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 6: go see him. But he wasn't out here with me
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 6: and all I ever wanted he told my mom that
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 6: he was going to take us out of our situation,
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 6: take us out, you know, the hood and all that
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 6: paycheck to paycheck shit. Made a mistake, got jammed up
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 6: and life gone just like that.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 6: One mistake cost you your life. And I've learned from that. Like,
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 6: I don't need to go through that.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 6: Seeing is believing. Once you see some shit like that,
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, damn, my big brother gone. He ain't gone,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 6: but somebody lost their life in that situation too. And
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 6: I feel for that. Got empathy for that. How old were.
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 3: You when that all happened?
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: 11, 12.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 3: How was that for you as an 11-year-old? That shit
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 3: was very, very stressful.
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 6: I felt like I had to be the man of
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 6: the house immediately. You know what I'm saying? And my
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 6: mom was never the same. That was her firstborn. And
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 6: that definitely... gave me that fire in my stomach though.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 6: That edge, I played with that grit. It's all from that.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 6: I wanted to make my mama proud, let her know like, hey,
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 6: you didn't, you did a great job raising us. You know,
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 6: your oldest son, he made a mistake and it cost
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 6: him his life. But baby boy, I got it. And
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 6: I was getting.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 3: Into the list.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 6: You know, you're proud of your environment.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: You're around it.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 6: You're going to get into it.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 6: But after that happened to my big brother and that,
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 6: you know, turned our family upside down, like we'd never
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 6: seen that coming. I walked a straight line from then on,
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 6: because it wasn't about me. From that point on, it
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 6: wasn't about me. I never wanted to let my mom down.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 6: Because if I fucked up too, she would have felt
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 6: like she failed us.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 6: She did everything to raise us and instill values and
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 6: morals and all of that shit into that shit that
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 6: really give you the core of a human. Like that shit,
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 6: why we vibing like that, I got that from my
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 6: old girl. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: That passion.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 6: If we're going to do something, son, we're going to
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 6: do it. There's only one way to do it, right?
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 6: And I got that from her. So I'm thankful for that.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 6: But that experience with my brother, that what really, you know,
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 6: put fuel on the fire. Literally, it like took me to,
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 6: I was on Demon Time. I'm going to speak, you know,
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 6: y'all are young. How old are y'all? What's y'all age?
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm 35.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 6: Nice.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: 35, 37.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 3: You said you're almost 40? 39, just turned 39. We're
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 3: all in the similar world. Yeah, we played in the
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 3: same thing, but I got an old soul.
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 3: Some of those movies are popping up too.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 6: I'm really 67. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 3: My body is 67 from all the wear and tear.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 3: When that stuff happened with your brother, you immediately thought, okay,
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not the man of the house anymore. You've talked
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 3: about your brother so highly on this podcast. Was there
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 3: ever a piece of you that was angry at first
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 3: at him, angry with him, had to deal with that emotionally?
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 6: Because I just feel like, man, you don't talk all
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 6: this crap my whole life, telling, promising our mom all
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 6: of this stuff. And I can tell she, obviously, when
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 6: your parents, your kids tell you they got a dream
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 6: or a goal they want to accomplish, and obviously, she
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 6: going to point to that, encourage that. Like, yeah, dreams
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 6: do come true, son. I always watch my brother say, mom,
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 6: we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 6: Then literally- The world, life happens.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And change of plans. And now who's it on?
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 3: Little brother. And that's when I became Brandon Spikes. Yeah.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 6: I was Lil' Breon up until that point. Like, they
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 6: were like, oh, that's Lil' Breon, little brother. Just because
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 6: my brother was really one of them. On and off
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 6: the field. But just, you know. And I was just,
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 6: like I say, he was too smart for his own good. And,
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 6: you know, the streets. Ain't no love in the streets.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 6: And that's just where it go. They live by a code,
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 6: death before dishonor. He made a decision right there. I
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 6: think my nephew was like three or four months at
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 6: the time. My nephew, grown ass man, like 25, 26.
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 6: My brother been there 24. 24 years, or what is that,
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 6: 25 years?
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You started to talk about death before dishonor, like
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 3: when your brother's in that situation and then you're like, okay,
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 3: you were kind of getting in that world also. And
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 3: then that happens with your brother and you're like, oh,
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna straighten paths now.
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 6: Not for me, for my mom's sanity, her sanity.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 3: How does that, in that world, how does that work?
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 3: Are you able?
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 6: I'm still in it, but at the same time, the OGs,
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 6: everybody in the community, like, hell no. Take your ass home.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 6: But you out here, you ain't hanging out on the street.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 6: What you doing? Like, you got a chance. You done
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 6: been touched. You got that Bruce Leroy. You got the glow.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 6: Get your ass up out here. Your brother done fucked
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 6: it up. He messed it up. He had it, because
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 6: my brother's way better than me. And believe it or not,
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 6: in our little small town of Shelby, We got so
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 6: many phenomenal athletes, great players, way better than I was
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 6: when they got caught up in the streets. That one
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 6: mistake might've cost them. They look, they scholarship, whatever it was,
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 6: you know, it was something outside that they kind of
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 6: got knocked off the path. They didn't, the main focus,
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 6: the main thing is the main thing. And they kind of,
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 6: you know, stepped off and it cost them. Like, I
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 6: saw that happens to so many people that, you know,
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 6: you see them in a barbershop where they don't do
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 6: the barbershop like it used to be, but it'd be the, shoulda, coulda, woulda, mama,
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 6: if I had a dude, couldn't you heard, you know,
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 6: they'd be in the barbershops. That's like the, that's how that,
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 6: if you, I don't know if y'all, now this shit
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 6: is appointment only, you gotta make appointment. I don't know
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 6: if y'all, y'all do the barbershops? Yeah, but you know,
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 6: back in the day, you just pull up and, you know,
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 6: you wait and y'all talk and do this.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 3: Talk ball. When I was a kid, we go to
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 3: Supercuts when I was a kid. Okay. Oh, I know
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 3: about Supercuts. That's like a $ 10 Tuesday.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 6: But is it a lot of people in there? Grown men?
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 6: Is it mostly men?
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 3: I think culturally, we're living in a different world at
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because that's how I learned how to be a
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 6: man too. Just, I'm a young boy, but I'm around
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 6: that energy. The men, like the women that was, you know,
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 6: raising young men, they drop you out. They knew you was,
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 6: gonna be taken care of, you know, it was community value.
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 6: Like they, it was an obligation for them to instill
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 6: certain stuff, especially if you went to certain schools. Like
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 6: if my barber was a Crest Charger, you know, he
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 6: may help out with the bills. This season, if you
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 6: do what you need to do.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, come on, man. Like we wanted them like, hey,
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 6: go out there and beat the boy. I got this
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 6: for you. Like, that's how that go. That man, that
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 6: man that was $ 60, $ 70 that I couldn't afford. Here
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 6: go that new man.
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 3: When you decided- I would keep doing this shit.
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 6: That's just what it was.
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 3: When you got in the straight and narrow and then
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 3: you get to Florida, Hernandez is doing whatever based on
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 3: the documentary. He's not on a straight and narrow. It
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 3: seemed like the team wasn't on the straight and narrow.
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 6: I told you now, that locker room was very interesting.
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 6: A lot of different personalities in there. I take my
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 6: hat off to Earth for managing all of that. We
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 6: like to kill this ass. You remember he quit because
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 6: his heart had like a health issue or something like that.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 3: And then he was coaching two years later at Ohio State. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 3: But he always used to say that. I was so
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 3: mad when he went to Ohio State.
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 6: I knew he was going to go there.
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 3: He was working at like CBS or something like that.
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 3: He came in for a game. He came in, it
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 3: was like game week for Michigan. Yeah. He walked in,
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 3: he was talking to Brady Hoke and I was kind
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 3: of standing off to the side and Brady Hoke walks
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 3: up to me and he goes, that motherfucker's gonna be
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 3: the head coach of Ohio State next year. And I'm like, no.
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 6: I wasn't surprised, because he would always talk about the
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 6: great Woody Hayes all the time. He would mention him
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 6: at school and some of the stuff. I think he
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 6: was one of his mentors or whatever. And he would
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 6: always talk about that. But I used to be like,
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 6: no disrespect. I'm like, yeah, you go over there. All
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 6: y'all do is win two games, you win that championship.
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 6: Two games, you win that championship over there, coach. You
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 6: might as well go over there, because this is going
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 6: to key you in the SEC. And we leaving, coach.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 3: We leaving.
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 1: We leaving.
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 3: There ain't no more Percy Harbour, no more Brandon Spikes,
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 3: no more Tim Tebow. No more Tim Tebow. No more
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 3: Pouncey Brothers.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: None of that.
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 6: He was like, B, I think, you know, I think
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 6: he got, like winning would make you comfortable. Like, you
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like he kind
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 6: of stopped recruiting as hard as he was because he
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 6: is a mastermind when it comes to recruiting.
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 6: He's a great salesman. You know, he, you know, I
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 6: believe every word he said and everything he said. He's like, hey,
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 6: you want to be a, you want to play in
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 6: the National Football League?
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: I said, you fucking right.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 6: He said, you come to Florida and I can get
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 6: you there. I promise you that. You just got to
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 6: follow the plan. You got to buy in. You got
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 6: to buy into everything. And you can change everything about
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 6: your life.
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 3: I promise.
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: He looked me in my eye.
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 3: My mama come in and.
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 6: Said, how's the schooling going to look? I said, yeah,
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 6: he's going to get his degree four years. And I
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 6: already told him I'm on a three-year plan, coach. Three
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 6: in and out of this, motherfucker. What you talking about?
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 6: But he made sure to tell my mama that. I
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 6: was like, yeah. I went back and did what I
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 6: needed to do. But then I was.
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 3: Ultra focus on the goal was to get to the league.
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 3: But people like, well, what if you would have got hurt?
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 3: What you would have done?
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 6: I would have figured it out when it happened. But
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 6: for now, I'm going to focus on this and put
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 6: all my energy and attention on this and being the
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 6: best player I can be and being the best teammate
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 6: and leader I can be. Because at first I didn't
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 6: want that leadership role. That shit was too much.
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Spikes is a guy that is
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 3: sick to his stomach right now. The last three national
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 3: champions came out of the Big Ten. He's sick to
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 3: his stomach about it. And I am the ultimate equalizer.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 3: You got to, that's fair.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 6: But no, I've always respected him. I'm just saying like,
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 6: I just think, you know, because I played with a
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 6: lot of great players from those covers in the league,
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 6: but it's just like that when, you know, we got
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 6: to say it means more. Like, y'all don't understand. Some
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 6: of these Bible Belt universities is deep South. These people,
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 6: just like us, they ain't even out there blood, sweat,
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 6: and tears. They eat, sleep, and shit ball, too. Same thing.
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 6: Their whole life evolves around the Gator football season.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the fan base of the SEC understands the marketing
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 3: that comes into, like, Neyland Stadium. I haven't been to
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 3: the Swamp, but the Swamp.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 6: Even South Carolina. Yeah, they shit lit. The movie was
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 6: made in South Carolina.
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right there.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 6: That stadium been for a long time, but it just,
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 6: I think it really means more. And a lot of
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 6: these fans, they was born to it. They was born
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 6: in it.
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 3: Generational. Like they never had a choice. They were sitting
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 3: there two years up Pampers.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, you ain't, a choice. Kind of like
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 6: how I was a Cowboys fan. I'm still pissed Jerry
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 6: and his game grabbed Sean Lee over me. I'm gonna
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 6: feel the way for that fight. Hollywood Henderson and that shit.
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 6: I could have changed everything for you, Jerry. I could
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 6: have changed everything for you. You had to put that
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 6: star on the side of my helmet.
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 3: It's crazy that Sean Lee is like such a good
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 3: football player. He was incredible.
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean Lee was.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 3: He was a star.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 4: A lot of the, he would be somebody who'd get injured.
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 4: He'd get the concussed or get a hammy, whatever it is.
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 6: You can't make the club. In the tub.
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 3: He put his face in the fan, though, bro. I know,
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 3: but he would get hurt. He just wasn't there. He
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 3: didn't have that size. Exactly.
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm.
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 6: Trying to tell you. I didn't never feel nothing. It
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 6: was one person I hit. I hit somebody one time,
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 6: and I felt it.
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: Guess who it was?
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 6: Ricky Williams.
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, no shit?
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the great Ricky. You know I put him down.
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 6: I put him down, but I felt that shit. I said,
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 6: damn Rich, okay, I see why you want to hide.
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 3: I thought you was going to say Richie Incognito.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 6: No, hell no, man.
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 3: He put his hands on you, though.
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 6: Man, hell no. He's got heavy ass hands. I smoked
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 6: Richie at Miami Dolphins. He ain't never blocked me, ever.
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 6: True story.
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 1: He was at a Dolphins.
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 6: He used to try. I'm like, Richie, well, you know
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 6: I'm one of them. You know I ain't the one.
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 6: So we played together when we was at Buffalo, and
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 6: we had a little incident. So when I went to
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 6: Buffalo in my second round, I think Sexy Richie was
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 6: the coach. You know what I'm saying? He was the
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 6: head coach. Shout out to Jim Swartz, my DC. Man,
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 6: I've been surrounded by great coordinators. Jim Swartz, Matt Patricia,
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 6: Pat Graham. You said it was Richie Incognito. I need
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 6: you to get to that.
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get it to you. I'm going to
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 3: get it to you.
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 6: Jim Swartz was my DC, so boom. I had a
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 6: different role at the time. I'm like year six, year seven,
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 6: I think. I'm a tail end, whatever. So I'm a backup,
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 6: believe it or not. I'm a backup. Never been a
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 6: backup my whole entire life, other than Been a freshman
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 6: at Florida. That was the first time I experienced getting,
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 6: you know, splinters in my ass from being on the bench.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 6: But anyway, so I got a different role. I'm on
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 6: scout team again. I'm absolutely killing Richie. He can't block
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 6: me still.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to back up.
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 3: I'm second team.
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 6: He gets frustrated. He's like, hey man, do your job.
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 3: He's not going to do that in a game.
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 6: I said, Rich, you think I'm going to be out
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 6: here a sitting duck so you can buy me for one?
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 6: Get that shit on the tape. Y'all know how they do.
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 6: They get some shit on the tape. They like, use
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 6: that shit as leverage. And when it comes to negotiation time,
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 6: come on now. Like, you're falling off. You're losing a
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 6: step there, spot. Richie blocked you. Richie's a good player,
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 6: but he couldn't fuck with me.
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 3: This is the fact.
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 1: Turn on the tape. Turn on the tape.
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 6: Because I wanted, that's what I'm saying. You think you're
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 6: a big dog until you meet a motherfucking big dog.
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 6: And I'm willing to die about this shit you out
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 6: here putting on. I'm... I'm one of them motherfuckers. Let's
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 6: step in the back and handle this shit like men.
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 6: Fist fight. You want me, I'm going to shake your
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 6: hand and get laid.
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, look.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 3: So, boom.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 6: I'm kicking his ass, right? He gets mad. He's like, B,
• 2:50:05
  Speaker 6: come on, Spice.
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 3: Do your job.
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 6: You're a fucking scout team player.
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 3: You know I don't put up with no disrespect. That's
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 3: one thing I don't do. No disrespect.
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 6: Soon as you disrespect me, Alvin Mack, I turn into
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 6: a motherfucking psychopath. I can get there. Zero to 60
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 6: real quick. I can just see blood right out. He
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 6: said some shit like that. And I just want to
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 6: do my part.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 3: I already don't like my role I got, but I'm
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 3: gonna embrace it.
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my job. Change, stuff changed.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 6: I'm a team player.
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 3: That's what I love about the whole thing.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 6: So my job is to give you a fucking good look.
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 6: Y'all ain't falling asleep.
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 1: By you guys. All right, fuck.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 6: I know I've been running my power for a while.
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 6: Look though, my job is to give you a look
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 6: so you prepare for Sunday. So I'm giving them a look.
• 2:50:44
  Speaker 6: I was a hell of a player in the NFL.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 6: I thought I was pretty decent. I did my job
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 6: and every team I ever played on, I had a
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 6: key role. So I wanted to give him a look.
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 6: So he prepared. So we put the team in the
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 6: best position to be successful on Sunday. So obviously I
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 6: ain't letting him block me. So another play come, I
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 6: reads this shit. It's amateur hour. Like I've been, this
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 6: is my seventh year in the league. I can, this
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 6: shit cake. I've been bored of it. Bill Belichick was
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 6: my mentor, my leader, my sensei. I got my PhD
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 6: in football now, guys. I had my undergrad, but now
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 6: I got a PhD in playing high-level football. You know
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying? And I got it from a mastermind
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 6: that simplified the game, and it was already slow motion
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 6: for me. I'm running 4.9. That shit was, I'm talking shit,
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 6: making checks, making adjustments, getting the fan, the crowd hype,
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 6: all of this shit.
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 1: I had finally.
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 6: got to that level where I could really be a
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 6: pro like that. But on the field, I never out
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 6: the field.
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 1: I was, you know.
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 3: So Richie calls you a scout team player.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 6: So boom, he called me a scout team player. You know,
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 6: I was like, all right, bet. I ain't going to
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 6: let you block me. He was like, just do what's
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 6: on the card. I'm like, I'm doing my technique. I'm
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 6: doing my fundamentals. I'm going to read my keys. That's
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 6: how I got to this level anyway. I ain't going
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 6: to never stop doing that. You tired or not, you
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 6: stick to the fundamentals. You're going to be good.
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 6: So I'm doing that. This shit, amateur anyway, I think.
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 6: What was it?
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 1: Dayball? Dayball.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 3: Brian Dayball.
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 1: Brian Dayball.
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 3: I think he was the OC.
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 1: He was there.
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 6: He was involved in it. He used to come to
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 6: me after practice. Him and Josh McDaniels used to do this. Like,
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 6: how'd you see that? What'd you see right there?
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. I just did that shit. I
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 3: seen that shit.
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 1: That shit.
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 6: Amateur hour. You're going to get them with that, though.
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 6: It's a good-ass play for them. They ain't going to
• 2:52:20
  Speaker 6: see that coming, but whatever. But anyway, so I make
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 6: the play. He's like, all right, do that shit again then.
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 6: I think I probably made about three or four plays.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 6: Just a true story now. I beat him. He chased me.
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 6: He pushes me in the back.
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 6: I could have got hurt, tore my leg or something.
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 6: And I ain't out of control. Some of them practice
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 6: players trying to be scout team out in America.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 6: I'm just reading my key.
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a pro. I'm in my sixth, seventh year.
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 6: Come on now. I'm supposed to be starting. Let's not
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 6: get it twisted. I can ruin the whole practice if
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 6: I wanted to. None of y'all stop me from doing
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 6: what I want to do out this motherfucker.
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 3: Ass up. What happened? What's the center? Hold on, wait.
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: Tell us what happened.
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 6: Because there's somebody that can vouch for this.
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: E-Y. E-Wood.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 3: E-Wood.
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: E-Wood. Friend of the show. Yeah.
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 3: I used to tell him, you like that kid off
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 3: Bad Santa.
• 2:53:12
  Speaker 1: That's my dog, though. I thought E-Wood.
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 3: That's my dog.
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 6: But E-Wood knew I was one of them. He'll vouch
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 6: for all of this.
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 3: So Ricky, he pushes me in the back, broski.
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 6: I fall and I get up.
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 6: What the fuck you want? What you do that for?
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 6: He said, I told you to do your job. That
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 6: ain't what the car do.
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 3: I said, bitch, I could have got hurt right there.
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 1: I said, bet.
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 3: I said, when we get in the locker room, it's up.
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 6: I ain't going to sneak you. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 3: It's up.
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 6: Rex was like, don't do it, Spice. I'm going to
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 6: have to find you. I'm going to say, well, you're
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 6: going to charge that to the gang, coach.
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: That's up.
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 3: I'm on his ass.
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 6: I ain't going to do this out here with all
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 6: these cameras out here. We get on the gang, in
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 6: the locker room, be ready to fight. Be ready to fight,
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to leave it at that.
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 3: No, no. What are you talking about?
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 1: What?
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 1: What the fuck was that? Hey, you see how I
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 1: ruled him in right there?
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 6: We got to get back to that. No, we can
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 6: get back to that.
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 1: We back at it right now.
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 3: What happens when you guys get to the locker room?
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 3: Ask the rest of the guys. Yeah, ask the guys.
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 3: You calling E-Wood? Yeah.
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 1: Call E-Wood.
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 6: Put him on FaceTime. I want to see my dog anyway.
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 6: I want to see how that golf game look. You
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 6: swear he nice. I'm trash as hell.
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 3: How you not gonna finish that story?
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 3: I bet, hey, Richie's a strong motherfucker. Hey, Richie has
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 3: some heavy arms, bro. Go look at the tape.
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 6: You know one person who hit me? I got hit
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 6: one time my entire career. Vontae Leach. Vontae Lee, who's that?
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 6: Vontae Lee, I think he's a fullback for the Baltimore Ravens.
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course.
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 6: He smoked my ass. Oh, I got the best of
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 6: him all the time. But he smoked my ass in
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 6: the AFC Championship. Literally knocked me out of my feet.
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 6: I've never been hit like this my entire career. I've
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 6: never been hit. I was always the hitter, you know.
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 6: They was always the nail, and I was the hammer.
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 6: That's probably why I ain't got.
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 3: CTE with it. My phone's on loud. I'm going to
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 3: take a pee real quick.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go pee.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 4: Would you say you were the number one heavy hitter
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 4: over Hightower?
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 6: Over Hightower?
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 3: Hey, Dante. I like Dante, but ask Dante.
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 6: He can knock your dick stiff, bro. He ain't never
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 6: put no man to sleep. I put grown men to
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 6: sleep with. Like, when they see me come, I hit them,
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 6: and they go.
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 3: You know. You was kind of like a lower body tackler. No.
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 3: Hell no.
• 2:55:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to knock you out, hit you in the leg.
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 4: You was like a rap and roll tackler.
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 1: You were a gator. No, I didn't even know.
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 3: You were a gator tackler.
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 1: That Seattle Seahawks shit?
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 6: I just told you the first time I learned how
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 6: to tackle was a foreign football tackle. I've never stopped
• 2:55:45
  Speaker 6: doing it until they changed the rules. And it was like,
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 6: you can't, you know, and I was like, coach, I've
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 6: been knocking people out. I think one year I paid
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 6: for my fines too.
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 1: One year.
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 4: You were a good form tackler. You weren't a hit
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 4: stick guy.
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not so many people.
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 6: A lot of that shit they took off YouTube.
• 2:56:08
  Speaker 3: Cause they went to a spotlight. They don't want to
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 3: show those violent plays like that.
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 6: I did not a Marino out, but in the league,
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 6: I'm not me and out literally.
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 3: We had a, we had a tear talk.
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, we going to talk about that. Wait till you
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 6: get back, because I'm going to give that shit to y'all.
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 6: Blood Raw ain't never shared what I said, the old no-show.
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 6: But I'm going to let y'all know what I.
• 2:56:27
  Speaker 1: Said to it.
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 6: Bro, that was one of the hardest plays. That was
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 6: the first play of the game. Like, I've been thinking
• 2:56:33
  Speaker 6: about it. I've never thought about a man every night, ever.
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 6: But I thought about him. And I ain't going to
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 6: say no homer, because.
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 1: I ain't one of them.
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 6: You already know what I'm talking about.
• 2:56:46
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• 2:57:12
  Speaker 6: I don't want to, cause you know, I got into
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 6: so much fights and smoke and shit. I don't remember
• 2:57:17
  Speaker 6: all the motherfuckers. And it ain't CTE. I just got
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 6: my memory.
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 3: It could be a little bit. It's not. I don't
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 3: think I.
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 6: Got CTE, bro. Cause I was the helmet, not the nail.
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I really think. The helmet, not the nail.
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 6: I was the hammer and not the nail. I'm delivering
• 2:57:32
  Speaker 6: the force. Like when you delivering the blow, I told you,
• 2:57:34
  Speaker 6: only blow I ever.
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 3: Took my whole career. The brain is still jumping around
• 2:57:37
  Speaker 3: when you delivering the blow.
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: Could be.
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 6: I did play for the township number three Rams. I probably,
• 2:57:42
  Speaker 6: in my head, you can make yourself whatever you want mentally.
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? A motherfucker that got diabetes,
• 2:57:49
  Speaker 6: if he mentally make himself think that he don't got diabetes,
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 6: he's cured. I don't know if that's how that is.
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's how that is. The mind,
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 6: just say, I ain't.
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 3: Saying, come on, guys.
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 1: The mind is a strong thing.
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 3: The mind is a very powerful thing.
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can, that shit is.
• 2:58:06
  Speaker 3: Positive words of affirmation.
• 2:58:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mickey, yeah. Mickey Mirati would take me to places
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 6: that I didn't think I could go. And once I
• 2:58:12
  Speaker 6: got there, I started believing in shit that I ain't
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 6: even think, I had in me. And I turned into
• 2:58:17
  Speaker 6: a Terminator type of moment. Like literally, I turned into- Yeah,
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 6: that too.
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 4: But we was about to touch on the no-show tackle.
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 6: Hey, I ain't never been. I told y'all I don't
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 6: put on no disrespect. Have y'all ever seen a team
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 6: run out like that before?
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 3: Pull that up.
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 6: Pull that up.
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 3: I don't remember them running.
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 6: I was under the pile, too, looking stupid. I ain't
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 6: never been. That's the most yards anybody ever got against me,
• 2:58:41
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 3: No Sean Moreno? No Sean, 187.
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 4: That game right there? That game right there, my whole
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 4: playing career. Oh, so you set the tone, but he still.
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 1: Went for 180. Hell no.
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 6: They did that shit the first year. That's what brought
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 6: all this tension in. Listen, bucko. This motherfucker disrespected him
• 2:58:58
  Speaker 6: and his gang.
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 3: So leading into this game.
• 2:59:02
  Speaker 6: So leading into this game, the year before, they disrespected us.
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 6: They ran on the field, danced, did the nay-nay and
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 6: all that sweet shit. All that beta male type shit.
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 6: I ain't like that man shaking their ass and shit.
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 6: I ain't on all of that.
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 3: But we do a little two steps. You know what
• 2:59:18
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about? Did they get the dub?
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 6: I ain't got, I got two left feet though.
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 1: You said what?
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 3: Did they get the ring on that one? Yeah, they
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 3: got the dub.
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 1: Where you trying to be funny?
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 6: Look out.
• 2:59:25
  Speaker 1: They already winning the dub right now.
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 6: Don't get me. Yeah, look at me. I pulled his leg.
• 2:59:31
  Speaker 6: I'm under the pass. I'm like, what the fuck? I
• 2:59:33
  Speaker 6: look up. I'm like, damn. What's going on? Look, you're
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 6: going to see me pop up like, oh, hold up.
• 2:59:38
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what, I normally fight. I was
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 6: in shock.
• 2:59:41
  Speaker 3: I normally fight during these type of situations. What was
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 3: happening down there?
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 2:59:45
  Speaker 6: You see me going towards it.
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck?
• 2:59:47
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 2:59:47
  Speaker 6: I've never seen that in all my years of playing sports.
• 2:59:50
  Speaker 6: Nobody has never stormed the field. The whole team on
• 2:59:53
  Speaker 6: the touchdown, act like you've been there.
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 3: For one. They trying to set the tone. They scored worse.
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 3: Go down the first drive.
• 2:59:59
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 2:59:59
  Speaker 6: They did.
• 2:59:59
  Speaker 3: They set the tone. Run on Brandon Spikes.
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 3: Look, top 10 team, though. Top 10 team, top 10.
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 3: But you guys lost this game.
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. We didn't play, it was a bust year.
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 6: They took the fight too. We went nine and three
• 3:00:10
  Speaker 6: and it was a bust year. I felt like I
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 6: failed the University of Florida going nine and three. The
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 6: bowl game, I gave all my bowl gifts away. I
• 3:00:20
  Speaker 6: don't want any of that. I don't want to remember
• 3:00:22
  Speaker 6: playing in the Capitol Bowl against the Michigan Wolverines and
• 3:00:25
  Speaker 6: Josh Hart in that game.
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 3: Mike Hart. Mike is a whatever. Hart. How many yards
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 3: did he run for?
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 1: He played hard.
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 3:00:32
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even playing hard. I wasn't even playing for real.
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 1: I swear.
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 3: You got a little nervous seeing Jake run at 77.
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 6: Jake was a good player, but I saw him at
• 3:00:39
  Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins, too. Four-time pro bowler. Oh, yeah, what that
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 6: supposed to mean to me? I wasn't coming off the edge,
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 6: but if he had.
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 3: To come get me. Staying on this one, though, a
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 3: year goes by.
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 1: A year goes by.
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 6: Everything we did was for fucking Georgia Bulldogs that whole season.
• 3:00:53
  Speaker 6: We did everything, 187 reps. Everything, every fucking workout movement
• 3:00:58
  Speaker 6: in the fucking weight room, you had to do 187 reps.
• 3:01:02
  Speaker 3: Of that shit.
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 6: Because they ran for 187 on you? Coach ain't want
• 3:01:06
  Speaker 6: you to forget that shit. Like, he used that as fuel.
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 6: And me personally, we could have lost every one of
• 3:01:11
  Speaker 6: these games this season. Fucking Georgia Bulldogs weren't fitting to
• 3:01:14
  Speaker 6: beat us. So, that play right there. We leading up
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 6: to this game.
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 3: First play.
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, we leading up to that game. I'm seeing blood.
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 3: It's murder. This is the rematch.
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 6: You think I'm going to let you beat up on
• 3:01:25
  Speaker 6: my big brother and get away with it? This the rematch, motherfucker.
• 3:01:28
  Speaker 6: I'm on all that shit. I'm ready to go ham.
• 3:01:30
  Speaker 6: I'm ready to die out here right now. And for one,
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 6: I felt like I let, not only did I let
• 3:01:34
  Speaker 6: my brothers down, I let the Gator Nation down, because
• 3:01:36
  Speaker 6: this Florida Georgia rivalry, this shit is on a whole
• 3:01:38
  Speaker 6: nother level. That shit split right down the middle, orange
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 6: and blue, black and red. But right here in this moment, fellas,
• 3:01:45
  Speaker 6: when I hit him, I already, you see how I
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 6: set him up? I'm like, you went for that shit.
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 3: Come on, bro.
• 3:01:50
  Speaker 6: Like, you see how I set him up into doing that? Like,
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 6: that's kind of amateur right there. I thought he was
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 6: better than that, but whatever. I've been doing this shit
• 3:01:56
  Speaker 6: to motherfuckers for a long time. Like, look how I
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 6: set him up. You see how I set him up?
• 3:02:00
  Speaker 6: And he, you know, was like, pick a boo. I
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 6: was like, oh, I'm over here.
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 3: Nope. I'm right here waiting on you. That's hilarious. Hello.
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 1: Hi-ya!
• 3:02:07
  Speaker 6: And I said, hey, you bitch made motherfucker. Raw and uncut.
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 6: I'm finna be here all fucking night. You better get ready.
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 6: I ain't never let nobody disrespect me and my brothers
• 3:02:15
  Speaker 6: like that ever again.
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 3: Fuck, boy.
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 6: Yo, he was looking at me.
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 3: I knew it.
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 6: Because I always look for the weaknesses. I looked in
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 6: his eyes. His eyes met my eyes. And we locked eyes.
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 6: And I knew right away that I had the edge
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 6: on him. And it was over for the Joy Bulldog.
• 3:02:33
  Speaker 6: And guess what? I think the whole stadium knew. I
• 3:02:37
  Speaker 6: didn't want to get.
• 3:02:38
  Speaker 1: Out for him.
• 3:02:38
  Speaker 6: I wanted to try to fight him. Yeah, I was
• 3:02:41
  Speaker 6: finna do some grappling type shit on his ass. He
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 6: had to try to put an arm bar on his ass.
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 6: I was one of them, bro. Right then and there,
• 3:02:48
  Speaker 6: I'm raging. I'm Alvin Mack. I am not myself right now.
• 3:02:55
  Speaker 6: I am Out of body.
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 3:02:59
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I don't even recognize him because I'm a nice
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 6: guy out the field, guys. I am a civilian now
• 3:03:05
  Speaker 6: out here just trying to thrive. Right there. That felt
• 3:03:12
  Speaker 6: like life or death. I feel like if we lose
• 3:03:15
  Speaker 6: this game again, my career at Florida was nothing.
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 1: Because it matters.
• 3:03:20
  Speaker 6: You beat Georgia, you beat Tennessee, and you beat the
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 6: team out west. I'm 4-0 against Tennessee.
• 3:03:27
  Speaker 3: Whoever. 4-0.
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 6: Never in my life had a hard game against the
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 6: Tennessee Volunteers.
• 3:03:32
  Speaker 1: Never. Really?
• 3:03:34
  Speaker 3: 4-0 against the team out west.
• 3:03:36
  Speaker 6: 4-0 against the team out west.
• 3:03:39
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 3:03:39
  Speaker 3: We partied. Which one's the team out west?
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 6: I can't say it. You know the team out west.
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 1: They're gold.
• 3:03:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, Georgia Tech?
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 1: No. Hell no.
• 3:03:47
  Speaker 3: That's the ACC teams.
• 3:03:49
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Seminoles, man.
• 3:03:51
  Speaker 3: You don't make me say that.
• 3:03:53
  Speaker 1: Fuck.
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 6: We can't say that. That's against the rules. Forgive me,
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 6: Gator Nation.
• 3:03:57
  Speaker 1: Forgive me.
• 3:03:57
  Speaker 3: Sorry about that. My fault, my fault, my fault.
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 6: No, yeah. 4-0 against them. We knew everybody got to
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 6: play against them. So we would, just being honest, I'm
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 6: very honest, that week when we played against Florida State,
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 6: we knew that was our time. Because we knew we
• 3:04:09
  Speaker 6: was about to play for the SEC Championship every year.
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 6: Even our sophomore year. Y'all remember when... What's the running
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 6: back that played for LSU? He got all those 4-4-1s
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 6: on us. I don't know if y'all remember that.
• 3:04:20
  Speaker 3: Hester. Hester.
• 3:04:22
  Speaker 6: They won that championship that year. We had their ass
• 3:04:24
  Speaker 6: on the ropes, sophomores. They got like six or seven 4-4-1s.
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 6: I felt like I let us down again. I couldn't
• 3:04:29
  Speaker 6: stop them, but D-line was young. But six 4-4-1s, seven 4-4-1s,
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 6: that's totally on me. And I took that shit personal.
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 6: And they went on to win the national championship. They
• 3:04:38
  Speaker 6: were fighting for their life in this motherfucking valley. And
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 6: they go on to win the National Championship. So we
• 3:04:43
  Speaker 6: go to the National Championship. Freshman year, should have went
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 6: that year. The team that beat us, they one-botted the
• 3:04:49
  Speaker 6: chinny-chin high on my chin. They barely, you know, they
• 3:04:51
  Speaker 6: took curb business, and they went on to win. Next year,
• 3:04:54
  Speaker 6: National Championship. Win that shit easy. Next year, senior year, undefeated.
• 3:04:58
  Speaker 6: 24 in a row. The person decides to leave. And
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 6: I ain't taking nothing from Bama. You know, they whooped
• 3:05:04
  Speaker 6: us in the goddamn SEC. They came to play. We
• 3:05:07
  Speaker 6: was the standard. Saban said it, not my words. I'm
• 3:05:10
  Speaker 6: gonna bring it back again because that made me feel good.
• 3:05:13
  Speaker 6: All that shit we did and stuff I was like,
• 3:05:15
  Speaker 6: I'm going to turn you guys into the NCAA.
• 3:05:18
  Speaker 3: It was worth it.
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 1: It was worth it.
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 6: I know this shit was illegal, Mickey Marotti.
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 6: But it turned us into monsters. Like, that way we
• 3:05:26
  Speaker 6: was training, you would have thought we was going to
• 3:05:27
  Speaker 6: war somewhere.
• 3:05:28
  Speaker 3: Y'all were doing like 3 a.m. workouts.
• 3:05:29
  Speaker 6: Bro, all of that shit. Everything you can imagine we did.
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 6: My alarm was set at 4.30. Like, I didn't even
• 3:05:34
  Speaker 6: have to change. My body eventually started waking up. You know,
• 3:05:38
  Speaker 6: I didn't really sleep a lot in college. Cause you, you, you,
• 3:05:40
  Speaker 6: if you sleep and you getting behind, I'm trying to
• 3:05:43
  Speaker 6: get an edge. I want to get that first workout
• 3:05:44
  Speaker 6: in so I can compete. Not only in the SEC,
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking about them backers in the country, in the nation.
• 3:05:49
  Speaker 6: Is that motherfucker, is that Dick Buck's candidate? Is he
• 3:05:52
  Speaker 6: up working out yet? Cause if he not, I already
• 3:05:54
  Speaker 6: got an edge on him. I'm already up. And guess
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 6: who else? My teammates like, B, what workout you in? Boy,
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 6: what do you mean?
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 1: What type of work?
• 3:06:02
  Speaker 6: I'm getting the first one that's available so I can
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 6: scare y'all motherfuckers for the rest of the day. Like,
• 3:06:05
  Speaker 6: that shit hard as hell.
• 3:06:07
  Speaker 3: I know y'all knew that shit.
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey.
• 3:06:11
  Speaker 6: Y'all better get y'all mom right. You know, I done
• 3:06:14
  Speaker 6: went through it.
• 3:06:15
  Speaker 3: The worst thing ever is when you walk in like,
• 3:06:18
  Speaker 3: at 6 a.m. is the first workout. You walk in
• 3:06:20
  Speaker 3: at 8 a.m., this dude's laying down in the locker
• 3:06:23
  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh my God. And they're like, bro,
• 3:06:25
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you. Hey, just buckle up today.
• 3:06:27
  Speaker 6: And sometimes they exaggerate too. You're like, well, I guess
• 3:06:29
  Speaker 6: it was regular. But I started doing it.
• 3:06:31
  Speaker 3: But if you did it first, you're like, okay, you
• 3:06:34
  Speaker 3: set the tone the rest of the day. I did
• 3:06:35
  Speaker 3: it every time.
• 3:06:36
  Speaker 6: But eventually- everybody started noticing we all in that bitch early.
• 3:06:40
  Speaker 6: The guys, then it's just, we one group, everybody come,
• 3:06:44
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? But obviously the team was
• 3:06:45
  Speaker 6: so big, you couldn't do that. But the guys that,
• 3:06:47
  Speaker 6: we was in that bitch together. We working out together.
• 3:06:49
  Speaker 6: We gonna hold each other accountable. Like, oh, you ain't
• 3:06:52
  Speaker 6: get better today, dog. You ain't empty the tank in here. Yeah,
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 6: I know it's week six.
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 1: We all hurt.
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 6: We all feel bad, but you shitted us today. And
• 3:06:59
  Speaker 6: I said, you don't like it?
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 3: Do something.
• 3:07:01
  Speaker 1: Do something.
• 3:07:02
  Speaker 4: There's one here from Thomas Black who said, what exactly
• 3:07:05
  Speaker 4: was said between you and Tebow at halftime of the
• 3:07:07
  Speaker 4: Kentucky game in 09? It was referenced in the Netflix
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 4: documentary about the Meyer years in Gainesville, but only discussed
• 3:07:14
  Speaker 4: in vague generalizations.
• 3:07:15
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 3:07:16
  Speaker 6: Thomas, how about this? I was in street clothes when
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 6: that happened. I was serving a one-game suspension when I was, yeah.
• 3:07:23
  Speaker 3: Gouging eyes.
• 3:07:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 3:07:24
  Speaker 3: It could have been that. I got suspended. You got
• 3:07:27
  Speaker 3: suspended for gouging eyes?
• 3:07:28
  Speaker 6: I got suspended a couple times for some shit. I
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 6: still was able to break all the records, though. I
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 6: still got them, too.
• 3:07:35
  Speaker 3: So your halftime, we can tell you. So, no, it's
• 3:07:37
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State. This reference right here?
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Mississippi State. Bro, this our senior year. We undefeated.
• 3:07:45
  Speaker 6: We done came back to win it all.
• 3:07:47
  Speaker 1: And Tebow.
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 6: It's playing horrible. And Dan Mullin didn't say nothing to him.
• 3:07:52
  Speaker 6: Urban Meyer didn't say nothing to him. And I'm in
• 3:07:54
  Speaker 6: street clothes. I'm like, I ain't out here helping or
• 3:07:57
  Speaker 6: doing nothing to contribute to the success. We got to,
• 3:07:59
  Speaker 6: you know, younger players playing in my role. I let
• 3:08:02
  Speaker 6: the team down. I already feel bad.
• 3:08:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, T-Bone, he never really played bad.
• 3:08:06
  Speaker 6: He always played pretty good. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 3:08:08
  Speaker 6: And when somebody was playing bad, it ain't that we
• 3:08:11
  Speaker 6: calling you out or seeing you out. No, we all
• 3:08:13
  Speaker 6: can get corrected and get, as our brother's keeper, I'm
• 3:08:16
  Speaker 6: going to be honest with you. Hey, pick it up.
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 3: Step it up.
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 6: I think he threw like two picks for touchdowns. Two picks.
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 6: I've never even heard of this. I think this kid
• 3:08:25
  Speaker 6: might've went first round, second round, right off that one game.
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know what type of pro he turned into,
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 6: but y'all might have to look that up. But anyway, he,
• 3:08:32
  Speaker 6: you know, I felt like he was throwing the game,
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 6: like not on purpose, but he was just playing bad.
• 3:08:36
  Speaker 6: And I went to him, I'm like, hey man, I
• 3:08:38
  Speaker 6: ain't come back for that. Like to lose right against
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 6: Mississippi State? Come on, they ain't playing for nothing. This
• 3:08:44
  Speaker 6: is they championship, literally. And we feeling, we going to
• 3:08:47
  Speaker 6: have time. I feel like we was losing. Then we
• 3:08:49
  Speaker 6: get in there and I, you know, I obviously go straight.
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 6: Urban ain't saying nothing to him. Mullen ain't saying nothing
• 3:08:54
  Speaker 6: to him. Any of us, anybody can get coached and
• 3:08:56
  Speaker 6: get corrected and get called out to pick your shit up.
• 3:09:00
  Speaker 1: What Saban say?
• 3:09:01
  Speaker 3: Anybody can get an ass chewing.
• 3:09:02
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm talking about?
• 3:09:04
  Speaker 1: Anybody.
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 6: Obviously, hell yeah. Like I'm watching this shit fall apart
• 3:09:09
  Speaker 6: right before my eyes and.
• 3:09:10
  Speaker 3: I can't do a motherfucking thing about it.
• 3:09:12
  Speaker 6: I'm in street clothes because I've already made a mistake
• 3:09:14
  Speaker 6: and fucked up and let the team down and, you know,
• 3:09:16
  Speaker 6: did something that.
• 3:09:18
  Speaker 3: Obviously, they knew what I was on, because I've been
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 3: doing that shit since third grade. Now, is this you
• 3:09:22
  Speaker 3: going up to him individually, or is this in front
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 3: of the squad?
• 3:09:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, in front of the whole team. We was a family.
• 3:09:26
  Speaker 6: We ain't had none of that. Why would I go
• 3:09:29
  Speaker 6: to him and pull him aside or something? He can
• 3:09:31
  Speaker 6: take constructive criticism. We've been together since we was 17
• 3:09:34
  Speaker 6: years old. It's our senior year, and everything is on
• 3:09:37
  Speaker 6: the line. We came back. We could be in the
• 3:09:39
  Speaker 6: NFL playing. We literally came back. Nothing more to winning
• 3:09:44
  Speaker 6: three national championships, to win that third national championship. That
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 6: was the goal. Like, just imagine the mentality from that
• 3:09:53
  Speaker 6: spring all the way leading up into the SEC championship
• 3:09:56
  Speaker 6: and everybody, you getting their best game every Saturday. And
• 3:10:00
  Speaker 6: me personally, I wasn't surprised. That's why I came to Florida.
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 6: Cause I wanted your best shot. I thought we was,
• 3:10:04
  Speaker 6: I thought we was that, you know, the standard, you know,
• 3:10:07
  Speaker 6: obviously we was.
• 3:10:08
  Speaker 3: So he's only the greatest college coach ever to do it.
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:10:13
  Speaker 6: You know, outside of Urban Meyer, you know, he got
• 3:10:15
  Speaker 6: the most, you know, he got the most rings. So
• 3:10:18
  Speaker 6: I got to give it to Coach. I feel like
• 3:10:20
  Speaker 6: if Coach Meyer stay, I think he, you know, win
• 3:10:23
  Speaker 6: a couple of them against him.
• 3:10:25
  Speaker 3: You, so what'd you say? What exactly did you say
• 3:10:27
  Speaker 3: to Tim?
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 6: Not just, hey, man, you got to get going. You
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 6: got to play better. Like, what you doing? Basically, just,
• 3:10:33
  Speaker 6: you know, having a couple. That's what we always did. Like,
• 3:10:35
  Speaker 6: it's been plenty of times I'm running on the field.
• 3:10:38
  Speaker 6: He's like, give me the ball back, B. Go make
• 3:10:39
  Speaker 6: a play.
• 3:10:40
  Speaker 1: Get going.
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 6: I need you to do something. And I'm like, yeah,
• 3:10:43
  Speaker 6: I needed that. Like, I struggled during the offseason. Like,
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 6: I was an All-American, team captain, everything. And from sophomore year, All-American,
• 3:10:50
  Speaker 6: first-time All-American, the offseason's It was very difficult for me
• 3:10:54
  Speaker 6: because it wasn't no likes, wasn't no fans. I couldn't
• 3:10:57
  Speaker 6: be a showman. It was just me and the work
• 3:10:58
  Speaker 6: and my teammates. And those off-seasons used to be long.
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 6: Like you said, you would get to leave a week,
• 3:11:03
  Speaker 6: if you're lucky, two, the whole time. So my teammates
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 6: literally drug me through the off-seasons every time. I struggled
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 6: because it's something I wasn't really good at. But I
• 3:11:13
  Speaker 6: gave it my all once I finally committed. And it
• 3:11:16
  Speaker 6: was like, fuck it, I know I ain't the strongest.
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 6: Because I get 225 on my best day maybe four
• 3:11:20
  Speaker 6: or five times, guys.
• 3:11:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus. Yeah, I put you.
• 3:11:24
  Speaker 3: Bro, how you so big and not that strong?
• 3:11:26
  Speaker 6: Retarded strength or something. I don't know, but people like, boy,
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 6: you got some crack. Like, how is you struggling with
• 3:11:34
  Speaker 6: 225 and that man that's 340, one of the strongest
• 3:11:36
  Speaker 6: people on the team, he can't do nothing with me.
• 3:11:39
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to tell him, hey, you finna have
• 3:11:41
  Speaker 6: a long day out here today.
• 3:11:42
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 3:11:42
  Speaker 6: I might not let you block me for the whole practice.
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 1: That get him going.
• 3:11:46
  Speaker 6: He like, oh, I'm going to block his ass one time.
• 3:11:48
  Speaker 6: He nice and all, but shit, you put your pants
• 3:11:50
  Speaker 6: on just like I do. Come on now. But that, like,
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 6: it's almost, I ain't saying I'm like Ali, but I
• 3:11:55
  Speaker 6: feel like Muhammad Ali used to talk so much shit
• 3:11:58
  Speaker 6: that once you take it there, you got.
• 3:12:01
  Speaker 3: To back it up now.
• 3:12:01
  Speaker 1: You don't talk all this shit for months.
• 3:12:04
  Speaker 3: It's time to fight now.
• 3:12:05
  Speaker 6: I feel like he used to do that so he could,
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 6: you know, rise to the occasion. And I used to
• 3:12:09
  Speaker 6: do the same thing. I'm talking shit. That's why I
• 3:12:12
  Speaker 6: couldn't understand why Bill drafted me to New England. I'm
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 6: not the Patriot Way type of guy. I've never been.
• 3:12:17
  Speaker 6: I'm going to talk my shit in the media, then
• 3:12:19
  Speaker 6: go live on that and stand on that shit on
• 3:12:22
  Speaker 6: Saturday and Sunday. I got to do this to hype
• 3:12:25
  Speaker 6: myself up so I can play to that level. I
• 3:12:27
  Speaker 6: can't just be conservative like, yeah, I'm going to go
• 3:12:30
  Speaker 6: out and play hard, great effort, sign in football, and
• 3:12:35
  Speaker 6: see what we can do. No, I'm going to go
• 3:12:37
  Speaker 6: out here and bust his ass, embarrass him in front
• 3:12:40
  Speaker 6: of his family, his wife and kids, going to watch
• 3:12:42
  Speaker 6: me put him to sleep. Straight like that. And it
• 3:12:46
  Speaker 6: ain't personal. This is my job. After the game, we
• 3:12:50
  Speaker 6: can shake hands and get some sushi. I like nigiri
• 3:12:53
  Speaker 6: and sake too.
• 3:12:54
  Speaker 3: Pouncey Brothers ever get you? Come on, man. Listen, they- No.
• 3:12:58
  Speaker 6: I just told you the only person ever- Hey.
• 3:13:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's Cap. The Pouncey Brothers? They rolling it too.
• 3:13:06
  Speaker 3: Those really are killer whales. Those really are killer whales.
• 3:13:08
  Speaker 3: Them my dogs.
• 3:13:10
  Speaker 6: Listen, Cam knew all of them. They learned that sauce
• 3:13:13
  Speaker 6: from him.
• 3:13:13
  Speaker 3: Come on, bro.
• 3:13:14
  Speaker 6: Come on. You couldn't come in the locker room if
• 3:13:17
  Speaker 6: you weren't really trying to eat faces off, bite shit.
• 3:13:20
  Speaker 3: Literally, you couldn't.
• 3:13:22
  Speaker 6: If I noticed you had some type of, you know,
• 3:13:25
  Speaker 6: something that was about you that was kind of like
• 3:13:27
  Speaker 6: laid back, I don't know if he would fit in here, coach. Urban,
• 3:13:30
  Speaker 6: all those recruits, guess who hosting them?
• 3:13:34
  Speaker 3: Frank the Tank.
• 3:13:36
  Speaker 6: And I'm Frank the Tank during those nights when I'm hosting.
• 3:13:39
  Speaker 6: That's when Frank the Tank come out.
• 3:13:41
  Speaker 1: And you know.
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 3: You were probably so much fun. I still have a
• 3:13:45
  Speaker 3: good time, man.
• 3:13:46
  Speaker 4: I bet.
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, you only get one life to live, bro. Like, hey,
• 3:13:51
  Speaker 3: everything in moderation. You get one, like you work so hard,
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 3: you sacrifice so much. Why not enjoy it?
• 3:13:56
  Speaker 6: Like, come on, we healthy. We got to live a dream.
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 6: Do something a lot of people don't get to do. 1%
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 6: get to go out there. and play a game they love.
• 3:14:05
  Speaker 6: You know, play a game that they've always played since
• 3:14:07
  Speaker 6: they was little kids. I don't know how long y'all,
• 3:14:09
  Speaker 6: when did y'all start? Y'all probably was young, right?
• 3:14:10
  Speaker 3: I played when I was eight and I didn't play
• 3:14:11
  Speaker 3: a game until I was 14. Really?
• 3:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:14:13
  Speaker 6: You played another sport.
• 3:14:14
  Speaker 3: I was a bitch, dude, until I hit puberty.
• 3:14:16
  Speaker 1: Swear.
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 3: Swear. This size. I was always tall, but I was like,
• 3:14:20
  Speaker 3: I look like Mike from Monsters, Inc. You had to
• 3:14:22
  Speaker 3: get on that creatine, you know? Yeah, a little creatine. Yeah. But, dude,
• 3:14:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, I quit hockey because I was afraid
• 3:14:27
  Speaker 3: of getting checked.
• 3:14:28
  Speaker 6: But hockey is a physical, tough sport.
• 3:14:31
  Speaker 3: Bro, I know, but then they put checking in, like peewees.
• 3:14:34
  Speaker 1: What's check? What is this?
• 3:14:35
  Speaker 3: Like hitting. You get hitting.
• 3:14:36
  Speaker 6: Oh, just like a blind hit.
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 3: No, no, like checking. Bro, you don't watch hockey?
• 3:14:40
  Speaker 1: You've never watched hockey?
• 3:14:41
  Speaker 3: Nah. Like you check them, like you go hit them.
• 3:14:42
  Speaker 3: So they used to try to get me to go
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 3: to the ones in Boston.
• 3:14:44
  Speaker 1: I never went.
• 3:14:44
  Speaker 3: Bro, it's such a fun sport to watch.
• 3:14:46
  Speaker 6: Bro, bro, bro. So it was a guy up there.
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 6: We had an autograph signing together, appearance or whatever. He
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 6: was like seven foot. I thought he played for the
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 6: Celtics because rest in peace, I got to do an
• 3:14:59
  Speaker 6: autograph signing with Bill Russell. You know, I was like,
• 3:15:01
  Speaker 6: how does Mr. Russell, how does it feel to have
• 3:15:04
  Speaker 6: all those championship rings? Like, you know, saying I've been
• 3:15:08
  Speaker 6: winning my whole life. You know what I'm saying? That
• 3:15:09
  Speaker 6: was a special moment to be right there. But this gentleman,
• 3:15:12
  Speaker 6: he gets up. I'm like, damn, I wonder what position
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 6: he played. They said, B, he a hockey player. And
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 6: guess what?
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 1: They said, B.
• 3:15:17
  Speaker 3: He plays just like you play, but on the ice.
• 3:15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:15:21
  Speaker 3: He was a force, like a force to wreck. He
• 3:15:23
  Speaker 3: would fuck people up. And he also like- Seven foot
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 3: on skates, bro. Yes. They had to change the size
• 3:15:29
  Speaker 3: of the stick you could have for him.
• 3:15:31
  Speaker 1: Because he what?
• 3:15:32
  Speaker 3: He was too tall. So the stick had to come
• 3:15:34
  Speaker 3: take your chin or something like that. That was like
• 3:15:35
  Speaker 3: the regulation. You couldn't have it longer than that.
• 3:15:37
  Speaker 1: He would be at an advantage.
• 3:15:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd be at an advantage because the stick's longer.
• 3:15:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not like super savvy on the hockey game.
• 3:15:43
  Speaker 6: You played it since you was little?
• 3:15:44
  Speaker 3: No, I played when I was little. Quit once checking
• 3:15:46
  Speaker 3: was allowed. And then baseball is afraid of getting hit
• 3:15:48
  Speaker 3: by the ball. So I quit that too. And then
• 3:15:51
  Speaker 3: I hit puberty. And I was like, yo, I'm about,
• 3:15:53
  Speaker 3: I'm about physicality. Yeah, all of a sudden I was like,
• 3:15:55
  Speaker 3: I'm about physicality.
• 3:15:57
  Speaker 1: Straight up.
• 3:15:57
  Speaker 3: All about it.
• 3:15:58
  Speaker 6: When your voice got deep.
• 3:15:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know if my voice has still gotten deep.
• 3:16:01
  Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for it to happen.
• 3:16:03
  Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for it to happen. You know when your.
• 3:16:05
  Speaker 6: Voice change though, you be looking at yourself, you're like, what,
• 3:16:07
  Speaker 6: it happened to me. Cause my voice is a little, and.
• 3:16:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh.
• 3:16:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah. I got a little hurt on my arms, yeah.
• 3:16:14
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, you're supposed to get a couple
• 3:16:15
  Speaker 3: of hairs done and you're like.
• 3:16:17
  Speaker 6: Oh fuck, I'm a man now. That's crazy, dog. Your
• 3:16:19
  Speaker 6: play style, I would have never guessed that shit. I
• 3:16:20
  Speaker 6: thought you was biting shit.
• 3:16:21
  Speaker 3: No, when I was younger, I was out doing whatever,
• 3:16:25
  Speaker 3: being bad. Yeah, of course.
• 3:16:27
  Speaker 6: Being a boy, all of us did it. You supposed
• 3:16:28
  Speaker 6: to be outside.
• 3:16:29
  Speaker 3: I got in trouble in middle school. And then my
• 3:16:32
  Speaker 3: freshman year high school, my dad's like, you were playing football.
• 3:16:33
  Speaker 3: You have too much anger. Best thing happened to you.
• 3:16:35
  Speaker 3: We went 8-0. I was all about it, dude. Yeah.
• 3:16:37
  Speaker 3: And then I didn't play tackle until my senior year
• 3:16:39
  Speaker 3: and then I was all about physicality. Yes.
• 3:16:42
  Speaker 6: Just because you had, you was like a hothead.
• 3:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it just, yeah. Just, you just needed confidence.
• 3:16:46
  Speaker 3: I said, I think I lacked confidence until I started
• 3:16:49
  Speaker 3: playing football in my teenage years. Cause I wasn't like
• 3:16:51
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about. We were like biting heads off
• 3:16:54
  Speaker 3: and I was like, Oh fuck.
• 3:16:55
  Speaker 6: You know, like, you know, like, I don't know if
• 3:16:59
  Speaker 6: y'all ever seen, I'm sure y'all, Oh shit.
• 3:17:01
  Speaker 3: That's who besides you are.
• 3:17:02
  Speaker 6: I'm sure y'all seen like, you know, say a litter,
• 3:17:05
  Speaker 6: pit bull litter or something. There's a puppy in that
• 3:17:08
  Speaker 6: litter that he come out biting. I was that puppy.
• 3:17:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 3:17:12
  Speaker 1: It was instincts.
• 3:17:13
  Speaker 6: I didn't know nothing but to bite your head off.
• 3:17:15
  Speaker 6: I didn't know it was the other way to do it.
• 3:17:17
  Speaker 6: I didn't know you could take plays off and halfway
• 3:17:19
  Speaker 6: do stuff. Because my big brother set the standard right away.
• 3:17:23
  Speaker 6: You go out there and embarrass me, embarrass our name,
• 3:17:25
  Speaker 6: you're going to have to see me then. Cause you,
• 3:17:29
  Speaker 6: you bring on a little brother.
• 3:17:30
  Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 3:17:30
  Speaker 6: That was, you know, and I, you know, I kind
• 3:17:33
  Speaker 6: of felt like I had to, I wanted his approval obviously,
• 3:17:37
  Speaker 6: but I love like that. His friends was like, Hey,
• 3:17:40
  Speaker 6: he going to be all right. That's brilliant. I used
• 3:17:42
  Speaker 6: to get out like, you know, You know what I'm saying?
• 3:17:44
  Speaker 6: My mother goes, no, I'm like, I'm all right. You know,
• 3:17:47
  Speaker 6: I'm doing something right. But my brother was just teaching
• 3:17:48
  Speaker 6: me the foundation of the game. You're going to play defense.
• 3:17:52
  Speaker 6: This is how it's played. You got to be aggressive.
• 3:17:54
  Speaker 6: You got to be violent. Can't be no big, nice,
• 3:17:57
  Speaker 6: soft guy. We not doing that. I'll come drag you
• 3:18:00
  Speaker 6: out the field myself if I allow that. And that
• 3:18:03
  Speaker 6: was the best thing that happened. It was kind of
• 3:18:04
  Speaker 6: like when you had your crossroads with your dad.
• 3:18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:18:07
  Speaker 6: You playing football, end of discussion. And I think parents
• 3:18:10
  Speaker 6: should do that with their kids. Like, these little jits
• 3:18:12
  Speaker 6: got too many choices, too many options. You remember back
• 3:18:15
  Speaker 6: in the day? I don't know if y'all close enough.
• 3:18:18
  Speaker 6: You close enough. Whatever was cooked, that's what your ass eating.
• 3:18:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't like that.
• 3:18:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want that. Oh, yeah.
• 3:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 3:18:24
  Speaker 1: Man, you're going to starve then.
• 3:18:25
  Speaker 3: Don't you say that to me.
• 3:18:27
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, like, they got too many options now.
• 3:18:29
  Speaker 6: It's the same thing with the portal. Like, I'll tell
• 3:18:31
  Speaker 6: y'all a funny story. I got two good Florida stories.
• 3:18:33
  Speaker 6: I'm going to give y'all these two. So, That sophomore season,
• 3:18:37
  Speaker 6: when all the seniors, we're going into our sophomore off season,
• 3:18:41
  Speaker 6: all the seniors graduated. We had that experienced team, a
• 3:18:44
  Speaker 6: lot of veteran players in college, right? So my second year,
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 6: Mickey Marotti literally kills us, worked the shit out of us,
• 3:18:51
  Speaker 6: killed us, like trying to make us quit. You know,
• 3:18:53
  Speaker 6: he trying to break us down and build us up. Well,
• 3:18:55
  Speaker 6: he brought me all the way to fuck down. I
• 3:18:56
  Speaker 6: was ready to transfer. And Percy Harvin was too. And
• 3:18:59
  Speaker 6: me and Brandon James was too. So that was my brothers.
• 3:19:03
  Speaker 6: You see all of us together. You see one, you
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 6: gonna see the other. We stayed together. That was a
• 3:19:07
  Speaker 6: tight-knit group.
• 3:19:08
  Speaker 1: Just me, B.
• 3:19:09
  Speaker 9: James.
• 3:19:09
  Speaker 6: So we took it our own to go Prince Urban
• 3:19:13
  Speaker 6: about why we working so motherfucking hard. I went in
• 3:19:16
  Speaker 6: the office, me, Percy, Brandon James.
• 3:19:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 3:19:18
  Speaker 3: I just came for moral support. I wasn't going back
• 3:19:21
  Speaker 3: to shit because shit. But the homies was when I
• 3:19:25
  Speaker 3: was like, yo, let's go here and tell them, because
• 3:19:27
  Speaker 3: this shit is hard.
• 3:19:28
  Speaker 6: I can't play football, man.
• 3:19:29
  Speaker 3: Sign up for this shit.
• 3:19:31
  Speaker 6: This shit is not that serious, dog. Football, and I'm
• 3:19:34
  Speaker 6: having my way as a friend. Your most invested players
• 3:19:37
  Speaker 6: couldn't do nothing with me. I'm running through their face,
• 3:19:39
  Speaker 6: killing their ass. I was a big Sean Minerman fan, too,
• 3:19:42
  Speaker 6: back in the day, so I used to knock shit
• 3:19:43
  Speaker 6: out and hit the lights out.
• 3:19:45
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 3:19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:19:47
  Speaker 1: Shout out, you know, Sean.
• 3:19:48
  Speaker 6: So you go to Urban's office. Yeah, so we go
• 3:19:50
  Speaker 6: to the office, we busting that bitch. He's sitting there
• 3:19:52
  Speaker 6: at the desk. He's like, what can I do for
• 3:19:54
  Speaker 6: you guys? Pete started talking. He's like, hey, Colt, this
• 3:19:58
  Speaker 6: offseason stuff too hard. Like your best three players on
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 6: the team, captains, come in there telling Urban Meyer that
• 3:20:04
  Speaker 6: the offseason is too hard. We can't take it no more.
• 3:20:08
  Speaker 6: And if you keep this shit up, we transferring. They said, we,
• 3:20:12
  Speaker 6: in my mind, I was like, I ain't leaving this motherfucker,
• 3:20:15
  Speaker 6: but I go in here, I'ma let you speak.
• 3:20:16
  Speaker 3: But, you know, because it is what it is. So
• 3:20:19
  Speaker 3: he look at us.
• 3:20:20
  Speaker 6: And he's just like, truck is heated. He's like, are
• 3:20:26
  Speaker 6: you fucking shitting me? The court guys on the team
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 6: don't want to fucking grind and work? You're going to
• 3:20:33
  Speaker 6: whine and complain about grinding at the University of Florida?
• 3:20:38
  Speaker 6: National champs? Two weeks later, we played basketball. We played
• 3:20:46
  Speaker 6: basketball for about, I ain't going to say two weeks,
• 3:20:48
  Speaker 6: but about a week.
• 3:20:49
  Speaker 1: We played.
• 3:20:49
  Speaker 6: We stopped working. We stopped training and played basketball for
• 3:20:53
  Speaker 6: a week. Then they got back to kicking our ass again, though.
• 3:20:56
  Speaker 3: It's your little week of basketball.
• 3:20:58
  Speaker 6: We got a week of basketball. Right in the middle
• 3:20:59
  Speaker 6: of Matt Drills, we started playing basketball. But it was
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 6: like competitive, but you know, it made it fun. But
• 3:21:05
  Speaker 6: we just, we was a young team. We didn't know
• 3:21:07
  Speaker 6: how to respond to that shit. They trained us like,
• 3:21:09
  Speaker 6: what's worse than basic training? I can imagine that shit
• 3:21:11
  Speaker 6: trying to be a soldier. Shout out to all the
• 3:21:13
  Speaker 6: military guys because, hey, I thought I was a bad motherfucker,
• 3:21:17
  Speaker 6: but I ain't built for that. I know I ain't.
• 3:21:20
  Speaker 6: And thank you for your services, guys. But I wasn't
• 3:21:23
  Speaker 6: one of them. You know what I'm saying? I used
• 3:21:24
  Speaker 6: to get so frustrated when... Urban and Bill would bring
• 3:21:27
  Speaker 6: like the SEAL team and shit in there to talk
• 3:21:28
  Speaker 6: to us. I'm like, I get what y'all trying to say,
• 3:21:31
  Speaker 6: but this is a little different. If I make a mistake,
• 3:21:33
  Speaker 6: I get to do it over again and try the
• 3:21:36
  Speaker 6: next play. If this guy make a mistake, he got
• 3:21:38
  Speaker 6: to go, you know, tell that family that we lost,
• 3:21:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I dropped the ball and your husband or
• 3:21:43
  Speaker 6: son is gone. Like, this ain't the same, coach, but
• 3:21:45
  Speaker 6: I get what you're trying to do. You know, we
• 3:21:47
  Speaker 6: all together, the brotherhood and one for one.
• 3:21:50
  Speaker 3: No man drops a gun. I understand all that, but
• 3:21:52
  Speaker 3: it ain't the same. Bullets flyin'. Bullets flying, and I
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 3: ain't built for that. All this shit, no, we go
• 3:21:57
  Speaker 3: to war, let them on them.
• 3:21:59
  Speaker 6: All day long, baby. But quit bringing them SEALs in there,
• 3:22:02
  Speaker 6: because they the real, they the real soldiers. They the
• 3:22:05
  Speaker 6: real damn superstars.
• 3:22:07
  Speaker 3: How much of.
• 3:22:08
  Speaker 4: A problem was your guys' roster? The fact that y'all
• 3:22:16
  Speaker 4: are winning so much, because again, something that they didn't,
• 3:22:19
  Speaker 4: something that they wasn't talking about a whole lot in
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 4: the documentary was how all the arrests, all the stuff,
• 3:22:24
  Speaker 4: you're going in your head coach's office talking about we
• 3:22:26
  Speaker 4: working too fucking hard.
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Could you imagine going to somebody's office?
• 3:22:30
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 3:22:31
  Speaker 6: Your best three players. One of your best three players.
• 3:22:33
  Speaker 3: If I went into Rich Rodriguez or Brady Hook, which,
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not Urban Meyer, but I would never
• 3:22:37
  Speaker 3: in a million years.
• 3:22:38
  Speaker 6: He responded just like you thought he would. He was like,
• 3:22:40
  Speaker 6: are you fucking shitting me?
• 3:22:41
  Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of my office. He said, we transferring.
• 3:22:44
  Speaker 3: We out of this bitch. He was like.
• 3:22:48
  Speaker 6: And that's a true story. Erko, sorry, but I had
• 3:22:51
  Speaker 6: to share it, you know. And he probably alive. But, like,
• 3:22:55
  Speaker 6: right then and there, if the portal was available then,
• 3:22:57
  Speaker 6: our South Asics probably would have jumped in that month.
• 3:22:59
  Speaker 6: It would have been the biggest mistake.
• 3:23:01
  Speaker 1: Of our life.
• 3:23:01
  Speaker 3: It would have been at Wake Forest.
• 3:23:02
  Speaker 6: Somewhere trash and shit. I probably would have tried to
• 3:23:04
  Speaker 6: play basketball.
• 3:23:05
  Speaker 3: Walk on. Let me see what I got at. See
• 3:23:06
  Speaker 3: if I still got it. Probably get dunked on and
• 3:23:08
  Speaker 3: all kind of shit.
• 3:23:10
  Speaker 6: But, yeah, no. He was like, he realized that.
• 3:23:13
  Speaker 3: He would have been at LSU with Lane Kiffin.
• 3:23:15
  Speaker 6: I know, I would've took my hat right on there
• 3:23:17
  Speaker 6: over there at the Bama, because they had, you know,
• 3:23:20
  Speaker 6: a lot of times people, they was like, don't go
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 6: to Florida because you a bigger linebacker, they're going to
• 3:23:24
  Speaker 6: put you in. I'm like, Urban told me he was
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 6: going to give me an opportunity at Mike Linebacker, and
• 3:23:28
  Speaker 6: Charlie Strong said that too. So I'm going to go
• 3:23:30
  Speaker 6: with that. It's like, well, they tell people stuff all
• 3:23:32
  Speaker 6: the time, not just them, but coaches tell you whatever.
• 3:23:34
  Speaker 6: That's how it used to be. Because I remember Urban
• 3:23:37
  Speaker 6: called us Donald out, funny story. Donald out was disappointed
• 3:23:40
  Speaker 6: that he wasn't the kick returner when he got there
• 3:23:42
  Speaker 6: as a freshman.
• 3:23:44
  Speaker 1: Punt return. I said, we got.
• 3:23:47
  Speaker 6: Freshman All-American Brandon James returning kicks. What are you talking about?
• 3:23:50
  Speaker 6: He's like, well, he told my parents I was going
• 3:23:52
  Speaker 6: to get the return kicks. I said, you 6'7, 277,
• 3:23:56
  Speaker 6: running like a deer now.
• 3:23:57
  Speaker 2: Beast.
• 3:23:58
  Speaker 1: Freak.
• 3:23:58
  Speaker 6: Freak show. Freak show. And he ain't even, he's one
• 3:24:01
  Speaker 6: of them I had to, you know, stick my foot
• 3:24:03
  Speaker 6: in his ass sometimes to get him going, get him
• 3:24:05
  Speaker 6: to practice. But he turned into a hell of a pro.
• 3:24:08
  Speaker 6: He learned the culture. Like I said, like Cam, I
• 3:24:11
  Speaker 6: always say this all the time. Cam Newton. Has the
• 3:24:13
  Speaker 6: best comeback story in sports history. Think about that. He
• 3:24:17
  Speaker 6: gets knocked off the tip of the cliff, the top
• 3:24:20
  Speaker 6: of the mountain, knocked all the way down, started at
• 3:24:22
  Speaker 6: ground zero. Juco, national championship. Goes to Auburn, national championship.
• 3:24:28
  Speaker 6: First round draft pick, first pick, offensive rookie of the year.
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 6: Then he goes on to wheels his team to an
• 3:24:35
  Speaker 6: undefeated season.
• 3:24:37
  Speaker 4: Almost.
• 3:24:37
  Speaker 6: And they lose it. Think about that. Most people get knocked,
• 3:24:40
  Speaker 6: you get knocked out of a program like Florida. They like,
• 3:24:43
  Speaker 6: they feel like the world's over. But boy, perseverance, the process.
• 3:24:47
  Speaker 6: He learned how, what it takes to be great.
• 3:24:50
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know what?
• 3:24:50
  Speaker 1: This ain't my life.
• 3:24:51
  Speaker 6: And y'all right. Like that wasn't his first issue. A
• 3:24:53
  Speaker 6: lot of us had different chances. Urban gave a lot
• 3:24:55
  Speaker 6: of people different chances, but Tim Tebow just won a
• 3:24:59
  Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy once. as a sophomore, you know, Cam, you know,
• 3:25:03
  Speaker 6: they always behind him, you know, T had to come
• 3:25:05
  Speaker 6: back and like he could leave, he went in the
• 3:25:06
  Speaker 6: red shirts. I'm like, well, he had a whole nother
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 6: year that he, you know, before he can become draft eligible.
• 3:25:11
  Speaker 6: And I think Cam, just at the time, cause I
• 3:25:13
  Speaker 6: used to tease Cam all the time, he's turned into
• 3:25:15
  Speaker 6: a great player, but when he was my scout team quarterback,
• 3:25:17
  Speaker 6: you know, he had three options. He always throw that
• 3:25:21
  Speaker 6: motherfucker too high, or throw it too low, or throw
• 3:25:25
  Speaker 6: a damn interception.
• 3:25:27
  Speaker 1: Those are his three options.
• 3:25:28
  Speaker 6: When he was, I don't know, he worked his ass off,
• 3:25:30
  Speaker 6: got in the lap. I'm telling you, he always could run.
• 3:25:32
  Speaker 6: He always could run. He was decent with running, but obviously,
• 3:25:36
  Speaker 6: you can't, because I'm going to smoke your ass, you
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? And Urban, when Cam would miss
• 3:25:41
  Speaker 6: class sometimes, and he would do stuff that Urban didn't like.
• 3:25:45
  Speaker 3: He would put him in the Oklahoma drill with me.
• 3:25:46
  Speaker 3: He would call me like, Spikes!
• 3:25:48
  Speaker 1: I'd jump out that bitch.
• 3:25:51
  Speaker 3: Who won? Cam Newton!
• 3:25:53
  Speaker 6: I'm like, Coach, come on, dawg. Like, he the backup quarterback.
• 3:25:58
  Speaker 6: He get hurt, then what?
• 3:26:00
  Speaker 3: That shit made me mad.
• 3:26:01
  Speaker 6: And I got a story for that, too. But, yeah,
• 3:26:03
  Speaker 6: he would, like, put him in there and I'd hit
• 3:26:05
  Speaker 6: him and shit. I'm like, they thought because he was big.
• 3:26:08
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I've been hitting shit. That's what I do.
• 3:26:09
  Speaker 6: I bite shit.
• 3:26:10
  Speaker 3: I don't give a damn how big you is. Anybody
• 3:26:12
  Speaker 3: can get smoked out here, especially by me.
• 3:26:14
  Speaker 6: Especially you ain't been doing no hitting your whole life.
• 3:26:17
  Speaker 6: I've been hitting shit since I could walk damn near. Literally.
• 3:26:20
  Speaker 6: Trying to hurt shit. Trying to hurt you. Not just
• 3:26:22
  Speaker 6: tackle you and get you down.
• 3:26:24
  Speaker 3: I want to hurt you. This is my goal.
• 3:26:26
  Speaker 4: Well, it seemed like Coach Maher was trying Cam.
• 3:26:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was trying, but it was like a mental game.
• 3:26:31
  Speaker 6: He was definitely, and I didn't want to do it.
• 3:26:33
  Speaker 6: He's the backup quarterback. He was literally the number two.
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 6: If T-Bone went down, Cam was in the game. I'm like, coach,
• 3:26:37
  Speaker 6: come on.
• 3:26:38
  Speaker 1: But he's like, give him a little beat.
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 3: You smack him? I give him a little, son. I'm
• 3:26:42
  Speaker 3: with brother-in-law. I want to win. If something happens to T,
• 3:26:46
  Speaker 3: Cam got to be ready to play. So boom. So
• 3:26:48
  Speaker 3: Coach Meyer ain't like Cam.
• 3:26:49
  Speaker 6: No, I ain't going to say he didn't like him,
• 3:26:51
  Speaker 6: but he probably didn't like how Cam was handling it.
• 3:26:53
  Speaker 3: He was very immature. Yeah, if you have to throw
• 3:26:54
  Speaker 3: him over, you're just starting like linebacker. Yeah, I know.
• 3:26:58
  Speaker 6: But he know, like, yeah, I still didn't tee off
• 3:27:00
  Speaker 6: on him like I could have. But I think, you know,
• 3:27:03
  Speaker 6: things happen, whatever. But, you know, this happened. So one
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 6: time in practice, here's another one. So one time, ones
• 3:27:09
  Speaker 6: on ones. It's the end of practice. We're in like
• 3:27:11
  Speaker 6: a situational period or whatever. It's the end of practice.
• 3:27:14
  Speaker 6: We normally do competitive stuff at the end, ones on ones.
• 3:27:16
  Speaker 6: Whoever lose got to run gashes and shit, sprints. So boom,
• 3:27:21
  Speaker 6: excuse me. It was one-on-one situation and stuff. I think
• 3:27:24
  Speaker 6: it was fourth, got to have it. I feel like,
• 3:27:26
  Speaker 6: you know, it was like fourth and short situations and stuff.
• 3:27:29
  Speaker 6: So they run a little options, little direct runs and
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 6: stuff like that. So Tebow, you know, gets a option,
• 3:27:35
  Speaker 6: a read option, whatever, pulls it, and it's me and him.
• 3:27:37
  Speaker 6: And I just tag them all. Urban say, first down, offense.
• 3:27:43
  Speaker 6: So he got a red jersey on for one, and
• 3:27:45
  Speaker 6: he the hot and the chubby. Like, come on, I
• 3:27:47
  Speaker 6: can't hear him, because you know he ain't getting. He said,
• 3:27:48
  Speaker 6: that's a hot and chubby winner. You ain't stopping me
• 3:27:50
  Speaker 6: on Spice.
• 3:27:51
  Speaker 1: I said, cool.
• 3:27:52
  Speaker 6: And now if we lose, if the ones beat us,
• 3:27:54
  Speaker 6: we all got to run.
• 3:27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 3:27:55
  Speaker 3: You definitely don't want to run.
• 3:27:57
  Speaker 6: You know I ain't one that's hot as hell. We've
• 3:27:59
  Speaker 6: been out here for three hours. Like, I've been in
• 3:28:01
  Speaker 6: those environments. That Bill Belichick shit I went to, I
• 3:28:03
  Speaker 6: was already programmed. I walked right in. I didn't know
• 3:28:06
  Speaker 6: no other different. Like, shit, I thought you supposed to
• 3:28:09
  Speaker 6: get smoked in practice every day, and They're.
• 3:28:11
  Speaker 3: Like, we pros now. Y'all practice too hard.
• 3:28:13
  Speaker 4: In New England.
• 3:28:13
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know anything else.
• 3:28:15
  Speaker 1: But whatever.
• 3:28:15
  Speaker 6: So we going, so boom, Urban says that. He's like,
• 3:28:19
  Speaker 6: first down, T-Ball, first down, move the ball. So I'm like,
• 3:28:22
  Speaker 6: all right, bet.
• 3:28:23
  Speaker 3: Do it again.
• 3:28:24
  Speaker 6: Couple of players come by, we get to fourth down again.
• 3:28:26
  Speaker 6: stop him. But at this time, I mean, at me,
• 3:28:28
  Speaker 6: it's somebody else tagging him off. He moved, he said, first,
• 3:28:30
  Speaker 6: I said, coach, that was a tackle. He hit him
• 3:28:32
  Speaker 6: like three yards in the backfield this time. Like, it
• 3:28:34
  Speaker 6: ain't even close. Like, with the tag off, right? Urban said,
• 3:28:37
  Speaker 6: first down. The whole time, we had a younger player
• 3:28:39
  Speaker 6: in and I didn't even really recognize. I'm ready to
• 3:28:41
  Speaker 6: wrap this shit up. We've been out here three hours. Like, why,
• 3:28:43
  Speaker 6: you know, But you know that mental part come in.
• 3:28:45
  Speaker 6: You want to see if we can operate at a
• 3:28:47
  Speaker 6: high level while we're tired and fatigued.
• 3:28:49
  Speaker 1: I get it. Don't do that with.
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 3: Your three-time All-American linebacker, though. Get me out.
• 3:28:53
  Speaker 6: You want to do some mental games with the rest
• 3:28:54
  Speaker 6: of these motherfuckers.
• 3:28:55
  Speaker 3: Take me out. Because I don't want to run no
• 3:28:57
  Speaker 3: four-five gases after the practice. Shit.
• 3:29:00
  Speaker 6: But anyway, cause I wanted these dudes, I emptied the
• 3:29:02
  Speaker 6: tank at practice too. Like I wanted to get better.
• 3:29:04
  Speaker 6: So I left, the practices was harder than the games.
• 3:29:06
  Speaker 6: The games was kind of easy. Practices is what, you know,
• 3:29:08
  Speaker 6: our practices felt like games. Like I enjoyed practices. Like
• 3:29:12
  Speaker 6: we literally tried to kill each other. Don't let no
• 3:29:13
  Speaker 6: scouts come out there. Cause it's going to turn into
• 3:29:15
  Speaker 6: a game. Coach might call practice. Cause we turned the fuck. Oh,
• 3:29:18
  Speaker 6: the scouts out here, they taking notes.
• 3:29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:29:20
  Speaker 6: I'm finna get on that motherfucking waiting list. Hey, this
• 3:29:23
  Speaker 6: is my chance to get noticed. And I was like
• 3:29:25
  Speaker 6: this as a three-time All-American. Still, I want to see.
• 3:29:28
  Speaker 1: Who over there?
• 3:29:28
  Speaker 3: Let me see. I think they got a better linebacker.
• 3:29:32
  Speaker 3: He's going to be a better than this. I'm going
• 3:29:33
  Speaker 3: to have to step right in and take over the defense.
• 3:29:36
  Speaker 6: Take over the whole franchise if I can.
• 3:29:38
  Speaker 3: That's how I always thought. Go big or go home.
• 3:29:40
  Speaker 6: But anyway, so boom.
• 3:29:42
  Speaker 3: Come again.
• 3:29:42
  Speaker 1: Tebow, me and him.
• 3:29:43
  Speaker 6: Same play.
• 3:29:44
  Speaker 1: Read option.
• 3:29:45
  Speaker 3: Me and him.
• 3:29:46
  Speaker 2: One-on-one.
• 3:29:47
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 3:29:48
  Speaker 6: Kills him. Fall down. I didn't want to do it
• 3:29:51
  Speaker 6: to him. I said, there you go, coach. Turn up
• 3:29:53
  Speaker 6: on downs. Spice, what the fuck? Stops practicing. Everybody bring
• 3:29:58
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 3:29:59
  Speaker 3: What the fuck?
• 3:30:00
  Speaker 6: Like the Kia tease said, it ain't personal, bro.
• 3:30:02
  Speaker 1: I had his show.
• 3:30:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know why he think you invisible, but- I
• 3:30:07
  Speaker 6: love you, but I'm one of them. I know you big,
• 3:30:10
  Speaker 6: but I've been knocking 350, 340 down my whole life.
• 3:30:13
  Speaker 6: That ain't shit. You like compared to what I normally
• 3:30:16
  Speaker 6: like to bang with. You know what I'm saying? That's
• 3:30:18
  Speaker 6: just the facts. He'll tell you this story.
• 3:30:21
  Speaker 3: What'd he say?
• 3:30:21
  Speaker 1: So, boom. He didn't say nothing.
• 3:30:22
  Speaker 6: He knew that shit wasn't personal.
• 3:30:24
  Speaker 3: He a competitor.
• 3:30:25
  Speaker 6: He ain't taking none of that. Like, he probably didn't
• 3:30:27
  Speaker 6: know I was going to strike him, but he had
• 3:30:29
  Speaker 6: to know it was going to happen because Coach said,
• 3:30:32
  Speaker 6: you know, he get me going.
• 3:30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:30:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:30:34
  Speaker 3: Talking shit.
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 1: That's a first down.
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 6: That's a Hosmer Trophy winner. White room champ. Like, I'm like,
• 3:30:39
  Speaker 6: this motherfucker really don't know.
• 3:30:40
  Speaker 3: I'm a whole beast.
• 3:30:43
  Speaker 6: A whole different specimen. Something different. Literally something different. So
• 3:30:47
  Speaker 6: I had to smoke him. Calls practice immediately. I go
• 3:30:51
  Speaker 6: to the locker room.
• 3:30:52
  Speaker 1: Look down.
• 3:30:53
  Speaker 6: He said, come to my fucking office. I go up there.
• 3:30:55
  Speaker 6: Shut the door. I sit down. He said, Spice, what
• 3:30:58
  Speaker 6: the fuck? That wasn't for you. That's some of the
• 3:31:00
  Speaker 6: young guys. I need to see them, how they're going
• 3:31:02
  Speaker 6: to respond in certain situations. They're going to be out
• 3:31:04
  Speaker 6: there with you.
• 3:31:05
  Speaker 3: I said, well, damn, coach, let me know that.
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 1: Why you ain't communicating?
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 6: He's like, I don't fucking got to communicate shit to you.
• 3:31:09
  Speaker 6: This is my fucking team.
• 3:31:10
  Speaker 3: As it is.
• 3:31:11
  Speaker 6: I love coaches like that. I'm going to follow your lead, coach.
• 3:31:14
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take your identity.
• 3:31:15
  Speaker 3: He right.
• 3:31:15
  Speaker 6: He was right.
• 3:31:16
  Speaker 1: I was just frustrated. I was ready to go.
• 3:31:18
  Speaker 6: I shouldn't have done that. And what a tease had
• 3:31:19
  Speaker 6: I got hurt. I scored his ass like that. Then,
• 3:31:22
  Speaker 6: and he says to me, he's like, you can't fucking
• 3:31:23
  Speaker 6: do that. You're the fucking captain and the leader, and
• 3:31:25
  Speaker 6: these guys watch you. Now, where's the rest of these
• 3:31:28
  Speaker 6: motherfuckers start hitting T-ball? I said, they ain't gonna do
• 3:31:29
  Speaker 6: no shit. They ain't that damn stupid. Motherfucker be up at,
• 3:31:32
  Speaker 6: they'll be at Valdosta State. Straight like that. Soon as
• 3:31:36
  Speaker 6: you bump into his ass. Same thing with Tom. I
• 3:31:37
  Speaker 6: seen people, hey, get him up out of here.
• 3:31:39
  Speaker 3: He don't know how to practice. He almost hurt the money.
• 3:31:41
  Speaker 6: Almost hurt the franchise. You know how that shit go.
• 3:31:44
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so boom.
• 3:31:45
  Speaker 3: Urban look at me and say, what the fuck, Spike?
• 3:31:47
  Speaker 6: That wasn't for you. It was for a young guy.
• 3:31:49
  Speaker 6: And he's like, and just imagine, what if he get hurt?
• 3:31:52
  Speaker 6: Then what we do? What we gonna do? Put Cam
• 3:31:55
  Speaker 6: Newton in? I was like, yeah, hell yeah. What you
• 3:31:58
  Speaker 6: talking about? It's so funny he saying that shit. I
• 3:32:02
  Speaker 6: was like, coach is fucking shout out. But he just
• 3:32:04
  Speaker 6: wanted to, like Cam didn't understand that playing QB1 at
• 3:32:08
  Speaker 6: Florida comes with a whole different type of aura. Like
• 3:32:10
  Speaker 6: you don't get to do the stuff all the rest
• 3:32:12
  Speaker 6: of the players get to do. Like it's a perception,
• 3:32:14
  Speaker 6: it's a, demeanor that you carry yourself totally different from
• 3:32:17
  Speaker 6: everybody else at QB1. Because basically in the media at Florida,
• 3:32:21
  Speaker 6: if you to be successful at quarterback, you're the reason
• 3:32:23
  Speaker 6: we win. And if we losing, you're the reason we losing.
• 3:32:26
  Speaker 6: That's normally historically how it was at QB1. I don't
• 3:32:28
  Speaker 6: want that type of pressure. And that's why, you know,
• 3:32:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't wear number one. I put a five in
• 3:32:32
  Speaker 6: front of that motherfucker. Cause you put on number one,
• 3:32:34
  Speaker 6: the expectations, the standards is, you know, is at a
• 3:32:36
  Speaker 6: different level. People expecting you to ball the fuck out.
• 3:32:39
  Speaker 6: You got on number one.
• 3:32:40
  Speaker 3: That's just a fact. It is true, though, what you
• 3:32:42
  Speaker 3: said about Cam, where he basically falls off the top
• 3:32:44
  Speaker 3: of the mountain and then built his own road.
• 3:32:46
  Speaker 6: Greatest comeback story ever. And he was at the, we
• 3:32:50
  Speaker 6: went into the SEC legend thing together. And I was like,
• 3:32:53
  Speaker 6: can you believe we sitting there talking? I was like,
• 3:32:55
  Speaker 6: look at us.
• 3:32:56
  Speaker 1: Look at us.
• 3:32:57
  Speaker 6: Who would have thought?
• 3:32:59
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought?
• 3:33:00
  Speaker 6: That shit come full circle. And I said, Cam, I
• 3:33:02
  Speaker 6: just want you to know. I used to tease him
• 3:33:04
  Speaker 6: all the time, you know what I'm saying, fuck with him. Like, just,
• 3:33:06
  Speaker 6: because I hosted him on his visit. I said, you
• 3:33:09
  Speaker 6: know what I loved, what I first loved about him?
• 3:33:10
  Speaker 6: We number one team in the country, killing shit, biting shit.
• 3:33:12
  Speaker 6: T-Bone just went to Hollywood.
• 3:33:14
  Speaker 3: I said, Cam, you sure you want to come to Florida?
• 3:33:16
  Speaker 6: Like, I think, it was after our freshman year, we
• 3:33:18
  Speaker 6: had just won the national championship, and T-Bone about to
• 3:33:20
  Speaker 6: take over. Yeah, that's what it was, Chris Lilley. I said,
• 3:33:22
  Speaker 6: you sure you want to come here? Like, T-Bone, like
• 3:33:23
  Speaker 6: the quarterback, I said, he's like, okay, I'm coming to compete.
• 3:33:26
  Speaker 6: I'm coming to take his job, I said. We need
• 3:33:30
  Speaker 6: these guys like this. And we got a whole bunch
• 3:33:31
  Speaker 6: of them like that.
• 3:33:32
  Speaker 3: The next class.
• 3:33:33
  Speaker 6: That's what it's about. It's about recruiting. We was able
• 3:33:35
  Speaker 6: to build on what we already had started. And they
• 3:33:37
  Speaker 6: came in hungry, ambitious, driven. They wanted their PhD in football.
• 3:33:44
  Speaker 6: Guess what that PhD is? Passionate, hungry, and driven. If
• 3:33:49
  Speaker 6: you don't want your PhD, you can't come to Florida.
• 3:33:51
  Speaker 6: Take your ass somewhere else for that NIL money, because
• 3:33:53
  Speaker 6: that shit mean more here. You put on that gator,
• 3:33:56
  Speaker 6: the logo, the brand, that shit bigger than you. And
• 3:33:59
  Speaker 6: if you want to be selfish and make, how can
• 3:34:04
  Speaker 6: I say it?
• 3:34:04
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to do that.
• 3:34:06
  Speaker 6: But if you want to be selfish and make those
• 3:34:08
  Speaker 6: type of decisions, Like, go somewhere else. We good with that. Like,
• 3:34:12
  Speaker 6: I get that you a talent and you got a
• 3:34:14
  Speaker 6: chance because we all got an opportunity to be great.
• 3:34:16
  Speaker 3: All of us. I used to hate that shit. We're like, oh,
• 3:34:19
  Speaker 3: that kid gots a lot of potential. That's the one
• 3:34:21
  Speaker 3: word that used to bother me so much. That guy
• 3:34:23
  Speaker 3: got a lot of upside. We ain't seen it yet,
• 3:34:25
  Speaker 3: but we know what's in there. I've never seen it.
• 3:34:27
  Speaker 3: But he has potential to be elite. Potential ain't nothing
• 3:34:31
  Speaker 3: but another word for a motherfucker that ain't done shit.
• 3:34:34
  Speaker 6: That's all potential is. We all got potential to be
• 3:34:36
  Speaker 6: the fucking United States president, don't we? We potentially... Could
• 3:34:40
  Speaker 6: be the president.
• 3:34:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think I could be. Yes, you could.
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 6: My fault.
• 3:34:43
  Speaker 3: You can. Yes, sir, Mr.
• 3:34:44
  Speaker 1: Spikes.
• 3:34:45
  Speaker 6: Look who's running the country now. Come on now. Anything's possible. No,
• 3:34:51
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you good.
• 3:34:52
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump.
• 3:34:55
  Speaker 3: The Patriots, when I played for the Patriots, a crowd
• 3:34:58
  Speaker 3: put me on the phone with Trump.
• 3:35:01
  Speaker 6: And I'll be damned. I'll give you all that. I
• 3:35:03
  Speaker 6: wasn't going to talk about this. And it ain't nothing.
• 3:35:04
  Speaker 6: It ain't really nothing. But I'll never forget. It's probably
• 3:35:07
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl year and me and Kraft was like
• 3:35:09
  Speaker 6: this as my homies, like outsider. I think, you know,
• 3:35:12
  Speaker 6: Bill was jealous of our relationship sometimes because we hung
• 3:35:14
  Speaker 6: out outside of the facility. He introduced me to Blue Label,
• 3:35:19
  Speaker 6: Johnny Walker. The good stuff.
• 3:35:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, damn. This grown man, this is a
• 3:35:24
  Speaker 3: whole nother level.
• 3:35:25
  Speaker 6: He introduced me to that Johnny Walker. That's probably why
• 3:35:27
  Speaker 6: I couldn't, you know, Get my weight right. Nah, but
• 3:35:32
  Speaker 6: he's great on, great guy, whatever. So, boom, I'm in
• 3:35:35
  Speaker 6: the weight room working out, and this is when he
• 3:35:36
  Speaker 6: was working out, still doing his little thing and stuff.
• 3:35:38
  Speaker 6: He come in, he's like, Spike, come here a second.
• 3:35:40
  Speaker 6: And I was like, what's up, boss man? He called
• 3:35:42
  Speaker 6: himself RKK.
• 3:35:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:35:44
  Speaker 3: It was that right-hand bottom corner. Like, where you sign
• 3:35:47
  Speaker 3: your goddamn check right there. RKK on that one. But
• 3:35:52
  Speaker 3: he was like, he's like, come here a second.
• 3:35:54
  Speaker 6: I want you to talk to somebody. I was like,
• 3:35:55
  Speaker 6: I'll get the phone.
• 3:35:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, hello?
• 3:35:57
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 3:35:58
  Speaker 6: She said, what's going on there Spice?
• 3:36:00
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 3:36:00
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm all right. And I guess I can
• 3:36:04
  Speaker 6: say I ain't meeting him yet, but I talked to him.
• 3:36:06
  Speaker 6: So I was about to say my third president, because
• 3:36:08
  Speaker 6: I've got to have a conversation with George W.
• 3:36:11
  Speaker 3: Bush, just like this for an hour. And Barack Obama.
• 3:36:18
  Speaker 6: I ain't trying to toot my shit, but how many
• 3:36:20
  Speaker 6: people can say that they had real conversations with presidents,
• 3:36:25
  Speaker 6: just like me and you, I sat with George W. Bush,
• 3:36:27
  Speaker 6: just like this, and we talked about life. Same thing
• 3:36:31
  Speaker 6: with Barack. I know, and that's going to be the
• 3:36:34
  Speaker 6: first chapter in.
• 3:36:34
  Speaker 1: My book, guys.
• 3:36:35
  Speaker 3: Can't give you all that.
• 3:36:37
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm going to give you the Trump story.
• 3:36:38
  Speaker 3: So boom, I'm on the phone.
• 3:36:39
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, what's going on? He's like, hey, what's
• 3:36:41
  Speaker 6: going on? I said, who is this?
• 3:36:43
  Speaker 3: He said.
• 3:36:43
  Speaker 6: You don't know who this is? He's like, no, it's Donald.
• 3:36:46
  Speaker 6: I was like, no. And at the time I was like,
• 3:36:48
  Speaker 6: I'm from the country.
• 3:36:49
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really into politics and none of that shit
• 3:36:51
  Speaker 3: at the time. It was all football.
• 3:36:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:36:53
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 3:36:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't. He's like, Home Alone 2?
• 3:36:56
  Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah.
• 3:36:58
  Speaker 3: You get me with the movies and shit.
• 3:37:00
  Speaker 6: I said, yeah. He said, how you doing? I said,
• 3:37:02
  Speaker 6: I'm all right. Just in here working out.
• 3:37:03
  Speaker 1: He said, well.
• 3:37:04
  Speaker 3: Kraft, he loves you. Keep doing your thing.
• 3:37:06
  Speaker 6: You know, I hope I can meet you one day and,
• 3:37:09
  Speaker 6: you know, come on down here to play golf one day.
• 3:37:12
  Speaker 6: Get on the jet with Kraft and y'all come down
• 3:37:14
  Speaker 6: here and play some golf. You play golf?
• 3:37:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, nah, not at a time I didn't
• 3:37:17
  Speaker 3: play golf at all.
• 3:37:17
  Speaker 6: I was like, nah, he's like, well, just come on
• 3:37:19
  Speaker 6: down here. Kraft talks high of you. And, you know,
• 3:37:22
  Speaker 6: I feel like you're a great guy. I'd like to
• 3:37:24
  Speaker 6: meet you and keep doing your thing. You're a great
• 3:37:26
  Speaker 6: player and the sky's the limit. And I give the
• 3:37:28
  Speaker 6: phone back to Kraft and he grabs me and say,
• 3:37:31
  Speaker 6: he'll be the.
• 3:37:31
  Speaker 3: President of the United States one day.
• 3:37:36
  Speaker 4: You hit people really, really hard.
• 3:37:37
  Speaker 6: 2012.
• 3:37:40
  Speaker 3: Four years later, he was a president.
• 3:37:43
  Speaker 6: True story. The whole truth and nothing but the truth,
• 3:37:45
  Speaker 6: so help me God. This happened to Brandon and I'll
• 3:37:48
  Speaker 6: never forget it. Cause I'll never forget. He said, he said,
• 3:37:50
  Speaker 6: I own everything in New York. I was like, you know,
• 3:37:53
  Speaker 6: he's just talking shit. He's like, how you don't know
• 3:37:54
  Speaker 6: who I am? Then he said, home alone, home alone too.
• 3:37:58
  Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah.
• 3:37:58
  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up Mr. Trump? Like that. That's crazy. I'm
• 3:38:02
  Speaker 3: a home alone too. Cause obviously I love home alone.
• 3:38:04
  Speaker 6: Like that's a classic. But you know, he said that
• 3:38:07
  Speaker 6: and I said, oh shit. And I'll never forget when he,
• 3:38:09
  Speaker 6: you know, that's it. What was it, the 45th, 45th, 45th? Yeah, 45th, 47th.
• 3:38:16
  Speaker 3: Yo, yo.
• 3:38:16
  Speaker 6: It's like, Donald Trump. I said, and it immediately, it
• 3:38:20
  Speaker 6: was like, I went right back to that moment, that
• 3:38:22
  Speaker 6: conversation when I'm just doing a little workout that I
• 3:38:25
  Speaker 6: posted probably did the day before. Her on the ass
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 6: probably was like, come on, Spice, you the only one
• 3:38:29
  Speaker 6: that ain't worked out yet. You know you're supposed to
• 3:38:30
  Speaker 6: get that shit yesterday. If I tell Bill, he gonna
• 3:38:32
  Speaker 6: find your ass. But, you know, I'm in there and
• 3:38:35
  Speaker 6: Kraft come in there and.
• 3:38:36
  Speaker 1: He knew I was in there.
• 3:38:36
  Speaker 3: He's like, give me the phone.
• 3:38:37
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn, that's great. And I think about
• 3:38:39
  Speaker 6: all it is, bro. 2012, he holds the phone and say,
• 3:38:43
  Speaker 6: he'll be the president of America one day, or the
• 3:38:45
  Speaker 6: United States, like that. I was like, and walked off.
• 3:38:48
  Speaker 6: I said, I'll be damned.
• 3:38:51
  Speaker 1: RKK?
• 3:38:52
  Speaker 3: RKK, right here by the corner down on five. Hey.
• 3:38:56
  Speaker 6: This is great, man. Thanks, y'all, for having me. This
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 6: is great. I know I've been running my mouth, but
• 3:39:00
  Speaker 6: I think I'm here to do that, right?
• 3:39:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, you absolutely are. You've done an amazing job. Comments
• 3:39:03
  Speaker 3: are going to go crazy, and we're going to need
• 3:39:04
  Speaker 3: a part two.
• 3:39:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm open, because y'all are going to want that
• 3:39:07
  Speaker 6: Richie and Cottonito story.
• 3:39:09
  Speaker 3: I guess so, yeah.
• 3:39:10
  Speaker 6: You're going to want that one.
• 3:39:12
  Speaker 3: There's one last question we ask everybody on this podcast.
• 3:39:14
  Speaker 3: It's the Bud Light question.
• 3:39:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 3:39:16
  Speaker 3: So anybody, people would do anything for an ice cold
• 3:39:18
  Speaker 3: Bud Light. What's something that Brandon Virgil Spikes would do
• 3:39:22
  Speaker 3: anything for?
• 3:39:24
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 3:39:24
  Speaker 3: That's... So we've had people say something as simple as
• 3:39:27
  Speaker 3: a nice steak dinner.
• 3:39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 3:39:29
  Speaker 3: Someone said go to space.
• 3:39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I got it. Let me get it. And
• 3:39:32
  Speaker 1: I can't say.
• 3:39:33
  Speaker 3: Can't say family.
• 3:39:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 3:39:38
  Speaker 3: Would I give absolutely anything for, give my life for?
• 3:39:41
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? What would you do anything for? Yeah,
• 3:39:43
  Speaker 3: what would you do anything for?
• 3:39:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely anything.
• 3:39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:39:47
  Speaker 6: Probably for that Super Bowl to get there. I would
• 3:39:51
  Speaker 6: do anything for Wes Welker to use his hands and
• 3:39:54
  Speaker 6: catch that ball. and we meet at Super Bowl, and
• 3:39:57
  Speaker 6: I will get the MVP, because Tom never takes the MVP.
• 3:40:00
  Speaker 6: He gives it to the next guy, because he's a
• 3:40:01
  Speaker 6: nice guy. And he's been there already. Just a couple championships,
• 3:40:05
  Speaker 6: all the time.
• 3:40:06
  Speaker 1: Y'all know.
• 3:40:06
  Speaker 3: Y'all know the resume. But if Wes Wecker just... He's
• 3:40:15
  Speaker 3: done a lot of catch.
• 3:40:16
  Speaker 6: He's a great pass catcher. One of the best ever.
• 3:40:19
  Speaker 3: Now, who is this Super Bowl against?
• 3:40:20
  Speaker 1: The Giants.
• 3:40:21
  Speaker 6: Ooh. When they beat us for the second time. Eli,
• 3:40:24
  Speaker 6: I can't beat Eli for shit.
• 3:40:26
  Speaker 3: He's the only man that done won at Florida and
• 3:40:28
  Speaker 3: beat us in New York twice. Damn. Who would have thought?
• 3:40:32
  Speaker 3: The only man.
• 3:40:33
  Speaker 6: And the rest of them, oh for shit. Again, so
• 3:40:35
  Speaker 6: they ain't won nothing. But Eli ass, whoever the thought,
• 3:40:39
  Speaker 6: him out of all the manners was going to be
• 3:40:40
  Speaker 6: the guy to really do what he do. And I
• 3:40:42
  Speaker 6: respect Eli. He was playing like Terry Bradshaw in that
• 3:40:45
  Speaker 6: damn Super Bowl.
• 3:40:46
  Speaker 3: I looked up there.
• 3:40:46
  Speaker 1: He was four. That was trash.
• 3:40:47
  Speaker 3: That was a wild card. I said, yeah.
• 3:40:49
  Speaker 6: Second year in the league. Got me in the Super
• 3:40:51
  Speaker 6: Bowl already. But that's the one thing. If I could
• 3:40:54
  Speaker 6: do it all over. Like I said, I've never talked
• 3:40:55
  Speaker 6: about this publicly. I contemplated suicide after I lost that shit.
• 3:40:59
  Speaker 1: Real talk.
• 3:41:00
  Speaker 3: For real. Man. You contemplated what?
• 3:41:02
  Speaker 6: I contemplated suicide. I was going to be down with
• 3:41:04
  Speaker 6: this shit.
• 3:41:05
  Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm checking out.
• 3:41:06
  Speaker 6: That shit meant that much. Like, I like to win, right?
• 3:41:08
  Speaker 6: I really like to win, but I hate losing. And
• 3:41:10
  Speaker 6: to get to the biggest game, the biggest stage, the
• 3:41:14
  Speaker 6: whole world watching, and to lose that, you had an
• 3:41:16
  Speaker 6: opportunity and it just... falls out the, your hand just
• 3:41:20
  Speaker 6: slips right out your hands like that.
• 3:41:22
  Speaker 1: Like, that's the hard thing to swallow, bro.
• 3:41:23
  Speaker 6: Imagine getting to the Super Bowl and you play your
• 3:41:25
  Speaker 6: best game since you've been in the NFL seven years.
• 3:41:27
  Speaker 6: You play, you have your absolute best game. And you
• 3:41:29
  Speaker 6: know why I had my best game? Because Bill brought
• 3:41:30
  Speaker 6: me in there and I was overweight, challenged me. I
• 3:41:32
  Speaker 6: didn't finish this, but he was like, hey, you're going
• 3:41:34
  Speaker 6: to go into the biggest game of your life, two
• 3:41:36
  Speaker 6: pounds overweight. And it was two pounds, granted.
• 3:41:38
  Speaker 1: Two pounds.
• 3:41:39
  Speaker 6: He made it a big deal because he wanted me
• 3:41:40
  Speaker 6: to be a pro.
• 3:41:41
  Speaker 3: All the time. He's like, why aren't you the best
• 3:41:43
  Speaker 3: linebacker in the league? Because you can't be.
• 3:41:45
  Speaker 6: And if we're going to win this Super Bowl, Brandon Spice.
• 3:41:49
  Speaker 6: You're going to have to play your best game. And
• 3:41:51
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I hope you don't think you messing with
• 3:41:52
  Speaker 6: my mind or nothing. Like I was going to do
• 3:41:54
  Speaker 6: that anyway. It's the Superbowl.
• 3:41:55
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this moment my whole entire life. Literally.
• 3:41:59
  Speaker 3: I dreamed of this moment since I was four years old.
• 3:42:02
  Speaker 3: Watching the Superbowl.
• 3:42:03
  Speaker 6: That's back when I'm glued to the TV.
• 3:42:04
  Speaker 3: I ain't moved.
• 3:42:06
  Speaker 1: Commercials.
• 3:42:08
  Speaker 6: You hungry? No.
• 3:42:11
  Speaker 3: Zach Thomas.
• 3:42:11
  Speaker 6: Oh, he wasn't in the Superbowl.
• 3:42:13
  Speaker 3: Who is it?
• 3:42:13
  Speaker 6: Joe Montana out here. I'm going to watch him.
• 3:42:15
  Speaker 3: Ken North.
• 3:42:16
  Speaker 1: I ain't moving.
• 3:42:17
  Speaker 6: I want Irvin out there.
• 3:42:18
  Speaker 3: Emmitt. Allen, Big Allen.
• 3:42:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Big Allen. What's his name?
• 3:42:24
  Speaker 1: Allen? Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:42:26
  Speaker 6: Them the motherfuckers I like to watch because they dominate
• 3:42:29
  Speaker 6: your ass for four quarters. They ain't, hey, got to
• 3:42:31
  Speaker 6: do it to you. But to get to that point, bro,
• 3:42:34
  Speaker 6: and lose, like I really was in a bad spot
• 3:42:36
  Speaker 6: for a long time. I kind of played it retiring too.
• 3:42:38
  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm done. Because that was my little plan.
• 3:42:41
  Speaker 6: I was going two state championships, two national championships. Should
• 3:42:45
  Speaker 6: have been three. Should've been three state championships. Actually, I
• 3:42:47
  Speaker 6: didn't tell y'all, my senior year, sorry guys, I had
• 3:42:49
  Speaker 6: to go back to this. My senior year, undefeated. We
• 3:42:52
  Speaker 6: went to the state championship my junior year. Come back,
• 3:42:54
  Speaker 6: all those sophomores, we won as a sophomore, win it
• 3:42:57
  Speaker 6: again as a junior. Come back my senior year, same team, undefeated.
• 3:43:01
  Speaker 6: We on the bus. Do pep rally, go through a regular. See,
• 3:43:04
  Speaker 6: we get ready to go to an away game and
• 3:43:05
  Speaker 6: play for, I think it was the fourth round. Next game,
• 3:43:07
  Speaker 6: you go to the state championship. We sitting out here,
• 3:43:09
  Speaker 6: just got a PSP. I'm showing my age now. Y'all
• 3:43:11
  Speaker 6: remember them PSPs dropping?
• 3:43:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm one of them. All this dirt.
• 3:43:16
  Speaker 6: Y'all playing my PSP and I realized, I'm like, damn,
• 3:43:19
  Speaker 6: we been on this bus a long time. I'm like,
• 3:43:21
  Speaker 6: where the coaches at? I'm looking up, I'm like, man,
• 3:43:24
  Speaker 6: go out with a boon, I'm gonna go to the
• 3:43:25
  Speaker 6: Army All-American game, killing that, get playing the game if
• 3:43:28
  Speaker 6: I can. We can go to the next Florida. I
• 3:43:30
  Speaker 6: had all my little plans ready to get my third
• 3:43:32
  Speaker 6: state championship, had it all set up. Coach get on
• 3:43:35
  Speaker 6: the bus, he said, hey, Pack this shit up. We've
• 3:43:38
  Speaker 6: been disqualified. Someone on the team, you know. They didn't
• 3:43:41
  Speaker 6: say it, but at the time we got disqualified because
• 3:43:44
  Speaker 6: somebody had been playing ineligible the whole season. What?
• 3:43:47
  Speaker 3: Who was it? I don't fucking know.
• 3:43:49
  Speaker 1: I still don't. You know.
• 3:43:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They checked the birth certificate.
• 3:43:53
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, hell no. Well, y'all, I
• 3:43:55
  Speaker 6: was in honors class. Then I had to make that
• 3:43:57
  Speaker 6: grade so I can get into college. I wouldn't take
• 3:43:59
  Speaker 6: my ass to no Juco school.
• 3:44:00
  Speaker 3: Y'all seen that last chance, you? Oh, yeah. But, hey.
• 3:44:03
  Speaker 6: Hell no, I wouldn't survive with Coach Brown. I like
• 3:44:05
  Speaker 6: Brown though. I like how he do that shit. What's
• 3:44:07
  Speaker 6: his name, JB? Yeah, JB, bro. That's how all my
• 3:44:10
  Speaker 6: coaches were. Like it is, but I wouldn't survive in
• 3:44:14
  Speaker 6: a place like that. So I had, it wasn't me.
• 3:44:16
  Speaker 6: I had to get my grades so I could get
• 3:44:17
  Speaker 6: my ass in school. But I was not going to
• 3:44:19
  Speaker 6: no Georgia military or no goddamn heart grade.
• 3:44:22
  Speaker 3: He's got a podcast. I guarantee this ends up on
• 3:44:25
  Speaker 3: this podcast. Yeah.
• 3:44:27
  Speaker 1: Well, my bad.
• 3:44:27
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. You said all of your things.
• 3:44:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
• 3:44:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because he, you know, I think you need that
• 3:44:33
  Speaker 6: tough love and, you know, when he, you got to have, like,
• 3:44:35
  Speaker 6: I always knew Juco was tough. I knew I wasn't
• 3:44:38
  Speaker 6: built for that same thing about him. It's too close
• 3:44:39
  Speaker 6: to that discipline. I struggle being disciplined all the time.
• 3:44:42
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, I always admired
• 3:44:44
  Speaker 6: military kids because they, you know, they instill toughness, discipline,
• 3:44:49
  Speaker 6: and that can translate over to the football field if you,
• 3:44:51
  Speaker 6: you know, if you mentally in the right space to
• 3:44:52
  Speaker 6: handle that shit. When it got tough, I didn't know
• 3:44:55
  Speaker 6: how to, you know, you know, get through that. I
• 3:44:58
  Speaker 6: would just, you know, the human element is the, nah,
• 3:45:00
  Speaker 6: that shit hard. I ain't fucking with that.
• 3:45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I ain't want to do that. That's uncomfortable.
• 3:45:05
  Speaker 3: It's tough. It's hard. It's heavy.
• 3:45:07
  Speaker 1: No thanks.
• 3:45:08
  Speaker 6: I ain't chasing nobody.
• 3:45:09
  Speaker 3: You know, football.
• 3:45:10
  Speaker 6: I came here to play football. I'm lifting this heavy
• 3:45:12
  Speaker 6: ass steel. Come on.
• 3:45:14
  Speaker 3: But anyway, but that's that moment, bro, to get back
• 3:45:18
  Speaker 3: to that. The Super Bowl.
• 3:45:20
  Speaker 6: If I can just, bro, I think I had like,
• 3:45:22
  Speaker 6: 14 tackles, two first formals. Oh, ballin'. I missed one play, though.
• 3:45:26
  Speaker 6: It was like a snag seven flat. And I keep
• 3:45:28
  Speaker 6: dreaming about it because I knew it was coming. I
• 3:45:31
  Speaker 6: made the play BPU, but I should have picked it
• 3:45:33
  Speaker 6: off and scored and kicked that bitch.
• 3:45:35
  Speaker 3: In the stands.
• 3:45:36
  Speaker 6: And we would have won the game. Normally, Frank the
• 3:45:37
  Speaker 6: Tank makes them type of plays when we need it.
• 3:45:40
  Speaker 6: But I had a hell of a game now. My
• 3:45:42
  Speaker 6: boy there vouched for this shit. And another thing happened
• 3:45:44
  Speaker 6: in the game. I ain't making an excuse. They beat us.
• 3:45:46
  Speaker 3: Like I said, Eli was playing like Terry Bradshaw off
• 3:45:49
  Speaker 3: that bitch.
• 3:45:50
  Speaker 6: I looked up one time, I.
• 3:45:51
  Speaker 1: Said, hell no, he 14 for 14.
• 3:45:54
  Speaker 6: What the hell? This is an eight and nine team
• 3:45:56
  Speaker 6: or whatever the hell they was. We supposed to be
• 3:45:57
  Speaker 6: killing them any given Sunday out there. I couldn't believe
• 3:46:00
  Speaker 6: this shit was happening to me. Right before my eyes. Oh,
• 3:46:03
  Speaker 6: that shit hurt. I see y'all. But anyway, James, he
• 3:46:06
  Speaker 6: had a bowl. I knocked the shit out of Ahmad
• 3:46:09
  Speaker 6: Bradshaw for the second time. He fumbled that bitch. Ball
• 3:46:11
  Speaker 6: hit him right in his face mask.
• 3:46:14
  Speaker 1: U-mask.
• 3:46:14
  Speaker 6: He went to U-mask. I ain't saying it disrespectful, God. No, no, no, no.
• 3:46:19
  Speaker 1: He went to U-mask. no, no.
• 3:46:21
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what conference that is. What are
• 3:46:24
  Speaker 6: they playing?
• 3:46:25
  Speaker 3: UMass? What conference is UMass? G6 or something, right?
• 3:46:29
  Speaker 6: Is that that group five type shit?
• 3:46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:46:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know who we're playing in.
• 3:46:34
  Speaker 3: No disrespect.
• 3:46:35
  Speaker 6: No disrespect, but I'm just telling you, the moments are big.
• 3:46:39
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you ain't played on those stages. You get the derives,
• 3:46:43
  Speaker 6: you know. I'm going to piss down my leg. I'm
• 3:46:48
  Speaker 6: not going to make the play. I hope they don't
• 3:46:49
  Speaker 6: come my way.
• 3:46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm shaking.
• 3:46:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready for this. I didn't prepare for this moment.
• 3:46:53
  Speaker 3: The eyes don't lie.
• 3:46:56
  Speaker 6: I'm standing in front of the huddle. I can look
• 3:46:57
  Speaker 6: and I see them. And I call it out like, hey,
• 3:47:00
  Speaker 6: tighten up now. This ain't the time. We got to
• 3:47:03
  Speaker 6: have it.
• 3:47:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 3:47:04
  Speaker 6: We've been living for this shit.
• 3:47:05
  Speaker 1: What we doing?
• 3:47:06
  Speaker 6: I don't want to see none of that shit because
• 3:47:08
  Speaker 6: if I can see it, they can see it. They
• 3:47:10
  Speaker 6: don't want no part of it. And I saw that
• 3:47:12
  Speaker 6: in that game. And we were still fighting. But it
• 3:47:14
  Speaker 6: was two plays. Wes Wecker catch that ball and not
• 3:47:16
  Speaker 6: try to body catch it. I've been catching shit like
• 3:47:19
  Speaker 6: this since I was, I didn't have a choice. My
• 3:47:20
  Speaker 6: brother's like, motherfucker, you gonna play football?
• 3:47:22
  Speaker 3: Hands, hands. That's probably why I got all the.
• 3:47:24
  Speaker 6: I got the record still at Florida. Six picks, four
• 3:47:26
  Speaker 6: for touchdowns. People think I just tackle people. Nope, I
• 3:47:29
  Speaker 6: played coverage too, motherfucker. Bill turned me into a first
• 3:47:33
  Speaker 6: and second down when I decided not to come to
• 3:47:35
  Speaker 6: a voluntary workout one off season.
• 3:47:39
  Speaker 3: Well, for a second, I mean, if you're overweight too.
• 3:47:41
  Speaker 6: No, it ain't have nothing to do with that. I
• 3:47:42
  Speaker 6: got 20 motherfucking, 24. What is it? The condition test.
• 3:47:47
  Speaker 1: You got to pass 24.
• 3:47:47
  Speaker 6: I have never failed a conditioning test.
• 3:47:49
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 3:47:49
  Speaker 6: It ain't have nothing to do with the weight. I
• 3:47:52
  Speaker 6: decided to rehab at Pete Bomarino's one off season when
• 3:47:55
  Speaker 6: it was voluntary. I didn't know that New England went
• 3:47:57
  Speaker 6: by different rules. I was a young player. It was after,
• 3:48:00
  Speaker 6: I think it was after the Super Bowl. Obviously, I've
• 3:48:01
  Speaker 6: been in the snow. For two years, you know, as
• 3:48:04
  Speaker 6: a rookie, you play that whole season. That second year
• 3:48:08
  Speaker 6: is just your first offseason, really.
• 3:48:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And we played it all
• 3:48:11
  Speaker 3: the way until February.
• 3:48:12
  Speaker 6: What, I got a month and a half to relax
• 3:48:15
  Speaker 6: before I get back to, you know what I'm saying,
• 3:48:16
  Speaker 6: the OTAs and shit? So, I was like, okay. All
• 3:48:20
  Speaker 6: my people in Florida, you know what I'm saying? I
• 3:48:22
  Speaker 6: want to get to the sunshine. It's negative 20 degrees
• 3:48:24
  Speaker 6: up this motherfucker.
• 3:48:25
  Speaker 1: We lost.
• 3:48:26
  Speaker 3: It's dark.
• 3:48:26
  Speaker 6: I wake up at 6 o'clock.
• 3:48:27
  Speaker 1: It's dark.
• 3:48:28
  Speaker 3: I go home at 4 o'clock.
• 3:48:29
  Speaker 1: It's dark. I was depressed.
• 3:48:30
  Speaker 3: I want to go home. Boom.
• 3:48:32
  Speaker 1: So....
• 3:48:34
  Speaker 6: Bill calls me, he's like, where you at? You the
• 3:48:37
  Speaker 6: only person not here, the whole team's here. You the
• 3:48:39
  Speaker 6: leader captain on the team and you're not here, what
• 3:48:40
  Speaker 6: are you doing? I'm like, coach, I'm rehabbing down here.
• 3:48:42
  Speaker 6: My agent said it was voluntary, I'm good. He's like,
• 3:48:45
  Speaker 6: you must didn't get the memo. You the only guy here.
• 3:48:49
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you the only guy not here, Spice. And
• 3:48:51
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn, I did feel bad after that.
• 3:48:53
  Speaker 6: But I was doing what I was supposed to do.
• 3:48:54
  Speaker 6: I was rehabbing, sending updates and all of that. I
• 3:48:57
  Speaker 6: just wanted to be where the sunshine is, be with
• 3:48:59
  Speaker 6: my friends and family. I'm up here in the freezing
• 3:49:01
  Speaker 6: cold for damn near two years. Like, obviously I'm from
• 3:49:05
  Speaker 6: North Carolina, but we get off four seasons. That up there, Buffalo.
• 3:49:08
  Speaker 6: That's why I was like, when they called my name,
• 3:49:10
  Speaker 6: I said, I knew I was going to go to
• 3:49:11
  Speaker 6: a cold ass team. I flew that shit. Then I
• 3:49:14
  Speaker 6: go to Buffalo too, but I could play in the cold,
• 3:49:17
  Speaker 6: but North Carolina, it get cold, but it ain't like that.
• 3:49:19
  Speaker 6: Like y'all know Buffalo and Boston. That's a whole different,
• 3:49:24
  Speaker 6: I used to be on first and second down. I
• 3:49:25
  Speaker 6: used to be like a penguin. I ain't played all that.
• 3:49:28
  Speaker 6: Cause teams was like, oh, y'all just going to have
• 3:49:30
  Speaker 6: him on heavy downs. We going to stay in team
• 3:49:32
  Speaker 6: personnel and keep his ass off the field. So he
• 3:49:34
  Speaker 6: don't hurt one of our players. And that's how I
• 3:49:37
  Speaker 6: became a first and second down back. Cause I didn't
• 3:49:39
  Speaker 6: come to an off season workout. And I know I
• 3:49:41
  Speaker 6: can confirm this, because when I got ready to sign
• 3:49:43
  Speaker 6: my second deal, when I go back, after I go
• 3:49:44
  Speaker 6: to Buffalo, before I could sign my contract, Bill says
• 3:49:48
  Speaker 6: to me, we ain't gonna have no issues, it's off season,
• 3:49:50
  Speaker 6: are we?
• 3:49:51
  Speaker 3: I said, no, sir, we won't, I'll be there. What
• 3:49:54
  Speaker 3: is it, 80%, you gotta do 80% of the workouts?
• 3:49:56
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn, y'all had to told me that
• 3:49:58
  Speaker 6: I would've came over for two, three days out the
• 3:49:59
  Speaker 6: week and got on back to Florida. I didn't know,
• 3:50:01
  Speaker 6: I was just so over it, just lost the Super Bowl, devastated,
• 3:50:04
  Speaker 6: I'm ready to end it.
• 3:50:06
  Speaker 3: All over one game.
• 3:50:08
  Speaker 6: Literally, y'all laughing and shit, y'all playing. I almost fucked up, bro.
• 3:50:13
  Speaker 6: I gotta win, whatever it is. I can't help it.
• 3:50:17
  Speaker 6: I really got this, when I was younger, if I
• 3:50:19
  Speaker 6: would lose, I didn't even know, I'd be crying.
• 3:50:21
  Speaker 3: Man, I ain't shaking hands.
• 3:50:22
  Speaker 6: Any game I ever lost, I ain't never shook hands either. Poor,
• 3:50:25
  Speaker 6: sore loser.
• 3:50:26
  Speaker 3: Sore loser. Sore loser. I think the best thing that
• 3:50:28
  Speaker 3: happened to this world is you lose so few. You've
• 3:50:31
  Speaker 3: lost so few games. That's one of the best things
• 3:50:34
  Speaker 3: that's ever happened to this country.
• 3:50:35
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 3:50:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You only lost five games in high school and college?
• 3:50:40
  Speaker 3: Imagine if you lost 10. I know I'd have been
• 3:50:42
  Speaker 3: on death watch. He ain't built for it to be
• 3:50:46
  Speaker 3: a fan of Nebraska. He ain't built for Nebraska ball.
• 3:50:48
  Speaker 1: He ain't built for Nebraska.
• 3:50:50
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Spikes hit Nebraska? Oh, he'd have transferred.
• 3:50:54
  Speaker 3: The players are just like, B-man is just one game.
• 3:50:56
  Speaker 6: No, it's not. You only get a certain amount of opportunities.
• 3:50:59
  Speaker 6: You want to seize the moment every chance you get
• 3:51:01
  Speaker 6: because you never get this opportunity back. And when you're young,
• 3:51:05
  Speaker 6: you feel like you're going to play forever. You start
• 3:51:07
  Speaker 6: getting older, you start seeing that window starting to close. Like, damn,
• 3:51:11
  Speaker 6: that's when you get serious. Like, I got to make
• 3:51:12
  Speaker 6: them all count. Every last one of them. That's when
• 3:51:15
  Speaker 6: you become a pro. When you're young, you think you
• 3:51:17
  Speaker 6: got time. I swear, I blinked and I'm running out
• 3:51:20
  Speaker 6: from my senior day. And then when you.
• 3:51:22
  Speaker 3: Having fun, that shit go fast.
• 3:51:23
  Speaker 6: But I was like, what the? Like, it was a
• 3:51:26
  Speaker 6: time at Florida Bowl when we lost three games and
• 3:51:28
  Speaker 6: it was a failed season. Like, we failed. The Gator Nation,
• 3:51:31
  Speaker 6: we suck. No free drinks. Actually, don't even come in
• 3:51:35
  Speaker 6: here drinking, guys. You should be somewhere practicing. trying to
• 3:51:38
  Speaker 6: get better.
• 3:51:38
  Speaker 3: It used to be like that.
• 3:51:40
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah. Y'all ain't coming in here? What the hell
• 3:51:43
  Speaker 6: was that?
• 3:51:44
  Speaker 1: Fucking late.
• 3:51:45
  Speaker 6: Ole Miss beat you.
• 3:51:46
  Speaker 1: What the hell?
• 3:51:47
  Speaker 6: At home? There ain't no fucking party until we get
• 3:51:50
  Speaker 6: a dub. And it was a cloud over the whole
• 3:51:53
  Speaker 6: Gainesville when we lost games because it never happened. People
• 3:51:55
  Speaker 6: were just like, oh. It's a weird moment. This was
• 3:51:59
  Speaker 6: weird until we bounced back because I've always judged a man.
• 3:52:01
  Speaker 6: It ain't about what you're doing when everything's sweet. How
• 3:52:04
  Speaker 6: you respond when you get your ass punched in the face?
• 3:52:06
  Speaker 6: You get knocked down. Now, that let me know what
• 3:52:09
  Speaker 6: type of character you are. How do you respond from that?
• 3:52:11
  Speaker 3: How much juice did you guys have after when Tim
• 3:52:14
  Speaker 3: Tebow did that halftime speech?
• 3:52:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I
• 3:52:18
  Speaker 6: was standing right beside Tebow. I already talked shit. It's funny, though, bro.
• 3:52:21
  Speaker 6: It's funny you say that because I'll never forget. Victory Monday.
• 3:52:23
  Speaker 6: I'm sitting down with Dan Mullen. I think Percy was
• 3:52:27
  Speaker 6: right there. Brandon Jane and maybe another player. We're sitting
• 3:52:29
  Speaker 6: down having lobster soup.
• 3:52:32
  Speaker 3: Crab legs and steak and nice potato and a little
• 3:52:35
  Speaker 3: broccoli on the side if you like it sauteed. If
• 3:52:38
  Speaker 3: you win.
• 3:52:39
  Speaker 6: If you was a loser, your ass eating hot dogs
• 3:52:41
  Speaker 6: and hamburgers.
• 3:52:42
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 3:52:43
  Speaker 6: You might get some Lay's chips, Lay's potato chips if
• 3:52:45
  Speaker 6: you lucky.
• 3:52:46
  Speaker 3: If the game was close. If it was close.
• 3:52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah.
• 3:52:49
  Speaker 3: So we sitting there and Mullen was like, what's going
• 3:52:51
  Speaker 3: on guys?
• 3:52:51
  Speaker 6: That was a big game. Let's get ready for this.
• 3:52:53
  Speaker 6: Let's put it behind us. He's like, that's an eight coat.
• 3:52:56
  Speaker 6: Game on the line. Absolutely gotta have it. Who you
• 3:53:00
  Speaker 6: giving the ball to? And he, without hesitation, said, Tim Tebow,
• 3:53:04
  Speaker 6: Harvard Trophy winner, Tim Tebow. Without a question, he going
• 3:53:07
  Speaker 6: to get it. Ain't nobody stopping one yard. I'll be damned.
• 3:53:11
  Speaker 6: A few short days later, we in that situation. Got
• 3:53:14
  Speaker 6: to have it. Last play of the game. And everybody
• 3:53:16
  Speaker 6: in the damn swamp knew what play that was running.
• 3:53:18
  Speaker 6: And they stuffed our ass. But it was the best
• 3:53:20
  Speaker 6: thing that ever happened to us. Because we started to
• 3:53:22
  Speaker 6: smell ourselves. Like literally none of the games was closed.
• 3:53:25
  Speaker 6: The whole team was playing. I was out at halftime
• 3:53:27
  Speaker 6: making plans, what type of parties, where it was gonna be,
• 3:53:29
  Speaker 6: how it was gonna do, at halftime. Looking in the stands,
• 3:53:31
  Speaker 6: shaking people, dabbing people. Hey, tell your people I wanna
• 3:53:35
  Speaker 6: come over there now. I heard y'all got some land.
• 3:53:37
  Speaker 6: I wanna come over there and fish. Why the game going?
• 3:53:39
  Speaker 6: We haven't like, the whole team, like we wanted to
• 3:53:41
  Speaker 6: beat your ass so bad, because everybody contributed to the win, right?
• 3:53:44
  Speaker 6: The scout team people, the walk-ons, like all of those dudes,
• 3:53:48
  Speaker 6: them was my brothers. Like I had a great connection
• 3:53:50
  Speaker 6: with them too, The whole thing come full circle. Everybody
• 3:53:53
  Speaker 6: got to do their part. People don't understand. It's a
• 3:53:55
  Speaker 6: real team sport. The walk-ons and the scout team players,
• 3:53:58
  Speaker 6: they got to give your ass a real game look.
• 3:54:00
  Speaker 6: So you ready for Saturday or Sunday? So you like,
• 3:54:02
  Speaker 6: I ain't seen this shit all week.
• 3:54:04
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 3:54:04
  Speaker 6: Now it look like you ain't doing your damn job. No,
• 3:54:07
  Speaker 6: that scout team player didn't take his fucking job serious.
• 3:54:09
  Speaker 6: He gave you a piss poor look. And now your
• 3:54:12
  Speaker 6: ass finna pay for it. I would never allow that. Like, oh,
• 3:54:14
  Speaker 6: he ain't give me, he don't run like that. He
• 3:54:16
  Speaker 6: don't do that. I watch the damn tape. I don't
• 3:54:18
  Speaker 6: watch 10 games already. I've never seen him do that.
• 3:54:20
  Speaker 1: My bad, B.
• 3:54:21
  Speaker 6: You better, I'm gonna hit your ass for real. And that's,
• 3:54:23
  Speaker 6: all right, you know I would go there if you
• 3:54:25
  Speaker 6: getting in the way of our success. Like that'll be
• 3:54:27
  Speaker 6: an issue that one play that could come down to it. Like,
• 3:54:30
  Speaker 6: cause you know, games are decided off a couple of plays.
• 3:54:33
  Speaker 6: They come down to about- Four to five? Four to
• 3:54:34
  Speaker 6: five plays, absolutely. They come down to that. And if
• 3:54:37
  Speaker 6: you're not prepared, like that's one thing I was so
• 3:54:39
  Speaker 6: blessed and grateful for that. My coaches, I was always
• 3:54:42
  Speaker 6: well prepared. One quote sticks out to me, the five P's.
• 3:54:47
  Speaker 6: I know y'all know the five P's. Don't tell me
• 3:54:49
  Speaker 6: y'all don't know the five P's. Y'all making me feel, oh,
• 3:54:51
  Speaker 6: I got this great hair. It's gotta be the- This
• 3:54:54
  Speaker 6: poor performance.
• 3:54:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, it wasn't this.
• 3:54:57
  Speaker 3: I was thinking of- No, here we go. Sorry, I'm
• 3:54:59
  Speaker 3: getting five P's. Maybe it's Graves' three P's. What's the
• 3:55:01
  Speaker 3: three P's? Oh, no, the three A's.
• 3:55:03
  Speaker 1: What is it? Oh, no, F's. Ass.
• 3:55:06
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know. Alcohol, assholes, and- That's the trifecta.
• 3:55:11
  Speaker 3: The trifecta. They are that motherfucker. Yeah, ass.
• 3:55:13
  Speaker 6: Alcohol, assholes, and women. Yeah, it's the trifecta. Ass, alcohol,
• 3:55:18
  Speaker 6: and assholes.
• 3:55:19
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 3:55:20
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? If those three in the equation,
• 3:55:23
  Speaker 6: something bad bound to happen.
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 6: Try to avoid the fucking trifecta. Try to avoid those three.
• 3:55:27
  Speaker 1: You'll be good.
• 3:55:28
  Speaker 6: If you got an asshole and ass, you might be good.
• 3:55:31
  Speaker 6: You put alcohol in that equation, something bad going to happen.
• 3:55:34
  Speaker 3: Game over. The problem is that trifecta usually comes in threes.
• 3:55:36
  Speaker 3: It's usually not just one.
• 3:55:38
  Speaker 1: Facts. Facts.
• 3:55:39
  Speaker 3: What's the five Ps?
• 3:55:40
  Speaker 1: Five Ps.
• 3:55:41
  Speaker 6: Preparation prevents piss-poor performance. I've always thought that was huge.
• 3:55:46
  Speaker 6: And I've lived by that my whole professional career, playing career.
• 3:55:49
  Speaker 6: If I'm well prepared, there's no way I could play bad.
• 3:55:53
  Speaker 6: I may be average, but I can't just fuck it
• 3:55:56
  Speaker 6: all up and just look just out of place, not
• 3:55:59
  Speaker 6: doing my job, my assignment, my alignment. I took that personal.
• 3:56:02
  Speaker 6: And I felt like if I didn't set the pace,
• 3:56:04
  Speaker 6: if I didn't have, if I wasn't hitting on all cylinders,
• 3:56:06
  Speaker 6: I didn't know his job, his job, that job, I
• 3:56:09
  Speaker 6: wasn't doing my job. That was my job to know
• 3:56:11
  Speaker 6: what everybody doing, how to get us out of downs,
• 3:56:13
  Speaker 6: how to make adjustments, how to make audibles. Like by
• 3:56:16
  Speaker 6: the time I, after my sophomore year, I'll go into
• 3:56:18
  Speaker 6: that junior year. I was a coach on it. I
• 3:56:22
  Speaker 6: feel like I said, I allowed it to me. We
• 3:56:24
  Speaker 6: a real ball knower. I never had a choice. I
• 3:56:28
  Speaker 6: always got challenged and I couldn't get on the field
• 3:56:30
  Speaker 6: until I proved that I knew the scheme like they did,
• 3:56:33
  Speaker 6: like my D coordinators or my head coach, whatever it was.
• 3:56:36
  Speaker 6: I had to get their approval until they give me
• 3:56:39
  Speaker 6: the keys to the motherfucking car. And once I had it,
• 3:56:43
  Speaker 6: ain't nobody getting in. I'm willing to die about this shit.
• 3:56:46
  Speaker 1: I was one of them.
• 3:56:47
  Speaker 3: Don't grab on pinky shit like that.
• 3:56:49
  Speaker 6: Hey, that ain't what coach said. They said, shut up,
• 3:56:53
  Speaker 6: company man.
• 3:56:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, motherfucker, I want to win.
• 3:56:56
  Speaker 6: Company man. He's like, hey, yup, I'm trying to win.
• 3:56:59
  Speaker 6: You mad at me now?
• 3:57:00
  Speaker 1: You don't like me?
• 3:57:00
  Speaker 3: But when we hosting up that crystal ball, I'm glad
• 3:57:04
  Speaker 3: you got down, yo.
• 3:57:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you didn't see the vision, though. Early on, there
• 3:57:07
  Speaker 6: wasn't nobody watching. There wasn't no cameras around. Just me, us,
• 3:57:10
  Speaker 6: and the work, motherfucker. And you didn't want to do it,
• 3:57:12
  Speaker 6: but once we encouraged and all of us come together
• 3:57:15
  Speaker 6: and we bond and we're like, hey, don't let your
• 3:57:17
  Speaker 6: brother down. It's a beautiful thing when a group of people,
• 3:57:21
  Speaker 6: I ain't even gonna say me, a group of people
• 3:57:23
  Speaker 6: got one common goal, and y'all working towards that. That
• 3:57:26
  Speaker 6: shit's special, man.
• 3:57:27
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, dude. When we sat there in
• 3:57:29
  Speaker 3: the SEC championship game.
• 3:57:30
  Speaker 1: When we were doing that summer.
• 3:57:32
  Speaker 3: I was nervous, too. I was nervous. Were you? You
• 3:57:34
  Speaker 3: did a phenomenal job. Having you come on and you
• 3:57:36
  Speaker 3: feeling some type of way about coming on and having
• 3:57:39
  Speaker 3: basically feeling like we're all family now. And then to
• 3:57:41
  Speaker 3: have this three hour long podcast.
• 3:57:43
  Speaker 6: I've been running my pothole for three.
• 3:57:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, my pothole.
• 3:57:47
  Speaker 3: One of the longest podcasts we've ever had. I feel like, hey, listen,
• 3:57:50
  Speaker 3: you crushed it. You were amazing. The story is awesome.
• 3:57:54
  Speaker 3: Your energy, by the way, one of the more infectious
• 3:57:56
  Speaker 3: energies I think we've ever been around.
• 3:57:57
  Speaker 1: Come on now.
• 3:57:58
  Speaker 3: You can't sit around B and not have like. I
• 3:58:00
  Speaker 3: can't help it.
• 3:58:01
  Speaker 4: You feel it if you don't have the energy. Imagine
• 3:58:03
  Speaker 4: me and you on a podcast. You'd run a little
• 3:58:06
  Speaker 4: out of here.
• 3:58:07
  Speaker 6: You got to watch the program. And so it's this linebacker.
• 3:58:09
  Speaker 6: They got a bomb.
• 3:58:10
  Speaker 3: I saw the program.
• 3:58:10
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't put it together.
• 3:58:11
  Speaker 3: You seen Vladimir and Alabama.
• 3:58:13
  Speaker 6: They spit.
• 3:58:15
  Speaker 3: Trust me.
• 3:58:15
  Speaker 1: I would have been right behind you.
• 3:58:17
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have did that, though. You better grab Percy
• 3:58:19
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 3:58:20
  Speaker 6: I'm finna go out right now for your will. Y'all
• 3:58:22
  Speaker 6: should not go up to his office and talk about
• 3:58:24
  Speaker 6: how hard it is. You got to get right behind him.
• 3:58:26
  Speaker 6: Nobody knew that. We kept that amongst the boys. But
• 3:58:29
  Speaker 6: I was very emotional, passionate. Every game, I would be
• 3:58:33
  Speaker 6: in tears. Literally, I can't control it. Like that shit just,
• 3:58:37
  Speaker 6: like the love for the game oozed through me. Even
• 3:58:39
  Speaker 6: when I said, I'm going to be composed. I'm going
• 3:58:41
  Speaker 6: to try to keep it together. Just, I just, just
• 3:58:46
  Speaker 6: boohoo crying. Like the past, like I never forget. I
• 3:58:48
  Speaker 6: remember when we played in London the first time and
• 3:58:49
  Speaker 6: me and my big brother always talk about, going to
• 3:58:51
  Speaker 6: Europe and going abroad and this and that. And I'm
• 3:58:53
  Speaker 6: in London playing at Wembley. And I literally cried the
• 3:58:59
  Speaker 6: whole game. Cause my brother didn't get to watch that shit.
• 3:59:01
  Speaker 6: He couldn't watch it. Cause he, you know, he locked,
• 3:59:03
  Speaker 6: he can't see the game. My brother literally not, he
• 3:59:05
  Speaker 6: didn't get to watch. We played no games my whole career.
• 3:59:08
  Speaker 6: I am what I am because of him. He didn't
• 3:59:10
  Speaker 6: get to see that shit one time. So I had
• 3:59:12
  Speaker 6: to go double time over time. You know what I'm saying?
• 3:59:14
  Speaker 6: Like you going to know. So he had called me like, Hey,
• 3:59:18
  Speaker 6: The boys talking about the ones that had access to
• 3:59:20
  Speaker 6: the outside world. They like, hey, they said your little
• 3:59:23
  Speaker 6: brother obese. That's all they ever wanted was the approval,
• 3:59:25
  Speaker 6: the respect. I played the game solely for respect. Nothing more,
• 3:59:29
  Speaker 6: nothing less. When I get love now, I never imagined
• 3:59:33
  Speaker 6: getting love at 39, 40 years old. I never cared.
• 3:59:36
  Speaker 6: As long as I had the rings, I felt like
• 3:59:39
  Speaker 6: the legacy is forever. You got the rings, you got
• 3:59:42
  Speaker 6: the bricks. I got several bricks out front of our stadium.
• 3:59:44
  Speaker 1: They ain't pulling them up.
• 3:59:45
  Speaker 3: That's there for eternity.
• 3:59:46
  Speaker 6: I get to bring my family back. My son, one
• 3:59:48
  Speaker 6: day if I had one, family like, look what your
• 3:59:50
  Speaker 6: daddy did, boy. That's going to be there when you
• 3:59:53
  Speaker 6: were gone and your son gone. That's still going to
• 3:59:55
  Speaker 6: be there forever. And it's the best feeling ever because
• 3:59:58
  Speaker 6: all of that hard work, all those early mornings, all
• 4:00:00
  Speaker 6: those sacrifices, all the parties I turned down.
• 4:00:03
  Speaker 3: Man, we had some fucking parties, boy.
• 4:00:07
  Speaker 6: I'm saying that for the book.
• 4:00:08
  Speaker 3: Let's get right to it. I'll keep going now. You
• 4:00:12
  Speaker 3: are the fucking man.
• 4:00:13
  Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all.
• 4:00:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
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