Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Brad Jacobs: Coffee Club Director on cafes continuing to see the profits squeezed
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's go to hospitality. The sectors hit record sales of
- 0:03Speaker 1: fifteen point nine billion dollars. Restaurant Association and your report
- 0:07Speaker 1: out takeaways with a big winners up three point two
- 0:09Speaker 1: percent to four point four billion. Cafes and restaurants barely
- 0:13Speaker 1: moved up up zero point three percent to seven point
- 0:15Speaker 1: eight billion. International visitor spending up nine point two percent,
- 0:19Speaker 1: now sitting at eighty six percent of pre COVID levels.
- 0:21Speaker 1: But revenue doesn't mean profit. Brad Jacobs is Franchise New
- 0:25Speaker 1: Zealand chairperson and coffee club co owner with me this morning. Brad,
- 0:28Speaker 1: Good morning, morning Ryan, so good, thank you, good to
- 0:32Speaker 1: have you on the show. So revenue is are but
- 0:33Speaker 1: costs are up too.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I guess. You know, a big headline
- 0:39Speaker 2: number is nice and it's good to celebrate anywhere, I guess.
- 0:43Speaker 2: But yeah, when you think about food inflation at nearly
- 0:46Speaker 2: five percent general and inflation at two point seven percent now,
- 0:51Speaker 2: and of course you're also got to remember that there
- 0:53Speaker 2: was about two point three percent more outlets opened across
- 0:56Speaker 2: the country, So one point four percent todal growth is really,
- 1:01Speaker 2: unfortunately just not enough to keep people, to keep people
- 1:04Speaker 2: where they need to be.
- 1:05Speaker 1: What about wages? Labor costs are forty percent of businesses.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Now that's the highest diva. Is that, you know, an
- 1:11Speaker 1: increase in the minimum wage having an effect? Or is
- 1:13Speaker 1: that a lack of skilled staff and you're having to
- 1:15Speaker 1: pay more?
- 1:15Speaker 2: What's the story? Yeah, interesting, not in this report, but
- 1:19Speaker 2: I did see another report a couple of months ago,
- 1:22Speaker 2: and it was about the price of coffee versus labor
- 1:24Speaker 2: over the last ten years, and essentially the price of
- 1:28Speaker 2: coffee had gone up something like about twenty two percent
- 1:30Speaker 2: and ten years versus the minimum wage has gone up
- 1:33Speaker 2: sixty three percent over the last ten years. So you know,
- 1:36Speaker 2: the reality is I just we can't pass on pricing
- 1:38Speaker 2: that we need to to customers without running the risk
- 1:41Speaker 2: of putting ourselves out of market. So unfortunately, yes, minimum
- 1:46Speaker 2: wages has just grown faster than we can pass on
- 1:48Speaker 2: a cost, and we've had to absorb a lot. I
- 1:51Speaker 2: think there is still some shortage of labor. Not as
- 1:55Speaker 2: bad as it was certainly for us a couple of
- 1:57Speaker 2: years ago, eighteen months ago, it was a major problem
- 2:01Speaker 2: for everyone. It has relaxed a little, but I guess
- 2:04Speaker 2: once those those you know in that type period where
- 2:08Speaker 2: where labor costs grew quickly, you don't then come back
- 2:11Speaker 2: down from that. That's the new level then, So.
- 2:14Speaker 1: How can we still have problems with labor shortages when
- 2:17Speaker 1: we've got all these people on job seeker you know what,
- 2:20Speaker 1: what's not computing?
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yes, maybe some of it is the wrong people in
- 2:26Speaker 2: the wrong area. Maybe there's a few people that just
- 2:28Speaker 2: don't actually want to be employed. And of course it
- 2:32Speaker 2: is you know, I suppose it's it's a term that
- 2:35Speaker 2: gets thrown around regularly, but perhaps there's jobs out there
- 2:38Speaker 2: that qws just don't want to do that they see
- 2:41Speaker 2: that that they're above. So without without people on some
- 2:47Speaker 2: kind of eVisa, our industry falls apart. That's the reality
- 2:50Speaker 2: of it. You know, we have a lot of people
- 2:51Speaker 2: working in hospitality that are either here, studying, traveling new
- 2:57Speaker 2: to New Zealand and that has been as the same
- 3:00Speaker 2: for our business as long as I can ever remember.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Bred Is there still a problem with working from home?
- 3:05Speaker 1: Is that still affecting business? I saw ACC this week
- 3:09Speaker 1: went from two days in the office to three.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Is there? Yeah, it's still a problem. Absolutely. Yeah. If
- 3:18Speaker 2: you look at the report, you know, if you look
- 3:20Speaker 2: at Auckland, it performed below below the national average. And
- 3:23Speaker 2: then when you read further into the report, it says,
- 3:25Speaker 2: you know, of that one point two percent growth in Auckland,
- 3:28Speaker 2: most of it came from the suburban areas, not the CBD.
- 3:31Speaker 2: We still have four outlets in the city we had
- 3:34Speaker 2: we had six previously, and all four of those outlets
- 3:38Speaker 2: have never got back to anywhere near close to what
- 3:40Speaker 2: they used to be pre COVID. Unfortunately, this is Auckland city,
- 3:45Speaker 2: and yeah, the reality is it's just not as many
- 3:48Speaker 2: people in offices as there used to be, and that
- 3:52Speaker 2: part of that, I guess is working from home. I
- 3:54Speaker 2: think part of it is also, you know, some businesses
- 3:56Speaker 2: found that they just didn't need to be in the
- 3:58Speaker 2: city and so you see little subtle areas growing in Auckland,
- 4:02Speaker 2: people that are not needing to be right in the
- 4:05Speaker 2: city center anymore. The prestige of being in the city
- 4:08Speaker 2: center just isn't there.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Bread appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Brad Jacob's
- 4:12Speaker 1: franchise and he'szell On chairperson and.
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