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Bonus Episode - More Sports, Celebrity Politics, and Diddy's New Digs · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking
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Speaker 1: about this week's subject of the Disgraceland full episode, Aliyah.
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Speaker 1: We're also talking about the difference between em and M
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Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion and Oprah Winfrey, with the MC five,
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Speaker 1: Paul Newman and Fleetwood Mac and of course we are
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Speaker 1: diving into your voicemails, text and more and as always,
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosie. All right, Discos, let's get
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Speaker 1: into it. R Kelly married Aliyah at fifteen years old.
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Speaker 1: Seawan Combs, Sean Diddycombs, along with a bunch of other
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Speaker 1: A list musicians, continued to work with R. Kelly after
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Speaker 1: this illegal marriage became common knowledge because Shawn Combs like
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Speaker 1: jay Z, like Lady Gaga, like Mariah Carey, celebrities excuse
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Speaker 1: me musicians who worked with R. Kelly after nineteen ninety five,
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Speaker 1: after the news of his marrying a fifteen year old
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Speaker 1: broke after the open secret went through the music industry,
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Speaker 1: that the reason that R. Kelly, well you can listen
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Speaker 1: to the full episode. That the reason that our Kelly
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Speaker 1: had to marry Aliyah at fifteen was because, well, you
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Speaker 1: can listen to the full episode if you haven't already. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: these musicians again Shaw, Colmbs, jay Z, Lady Gaga, Mariah Carey,
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Speaker 1: continued to work with the pedophile R. Kelly because I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why greed maybe at a minimum,
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Speaker 1: very loose sense of right or wrong to put it mildly.
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Speaker 1: To put it another way, these mainstream A list celebrities
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Speaker 1: are complete in total frauds. I am shocked at my
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Speaker 1: ability to continue to be shocked by this celebrity ridiculousness.
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Speaker 1: Eminem one point eight million dollars, Lizzo three million dollars,
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Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion five million dollars. Those are the fees
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Speaker 1: that these artists charged the Kamala Harris team to perform
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Speaker 1: at campaign events leading up to the election last week.
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Speaker 1: Not only did these artists perform okay, they lectured all
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Speaker 1: of us on the imminent collapse of democracy if Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris didn't win. I don't know about you, but if
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Speaker 1: I thought that we were facing an existential threat and
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Speaker 1: someone asked me to help out the cause, I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: charge the millions of dollars to do so. I'm laughing now,
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Speaker 1: but I'm really pissed. Okay, Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire.
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Speaker 1: A billionaire. Let me restate that Oprah Winfrey is a
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Speaker 1: billionaire three times over. She's worth three billion dollars. She
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Speaker 1: is the richest black woman on the planet. She is
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Speaker 1: the richest black woman in the history of the world.
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Speaker 1: And wait for it, she charged Kamala Harris a million
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Speaker 1: dollars to sit down and talk to her for a
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Speaker 1: televised event. Since this news broke a couple days ago,
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Speaker 1: when the Harris campaign announced they spent a billion dollars
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Speaker 1: and they're losing effort and they still ended up twenty
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Speaker 1: million dollars in debt, I'm wondering where might they could
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Speaker 1: have saved twenty million dollars. Eminem Meghan the Stallion Lizzo, Oprah,
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Speaker 1: Katie Perry, Lady Fucking Gaga for Christ six, John bon Jovi.
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Speaker 1: This is so disgusting. Anyway. Since the campaign spending came
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Speaker 1: out a couple of days ago, Oprah, in her defense,
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Speaker 1: has since made a statement saying that she didn't actually
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Speaker 1: make the million dollars, that it went to her production team,
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Speaker 1: Harpo Productions, And I don't doubt that. But to which
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Speaker 1: I say, Oprah, Babe, you insufferable, disingenuous fraud. You are
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Speaker 1: worth three billion dollars. Take one for the team, for
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Speaker 1: Christ's sakes, Suck up the million in production costs, which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, I guarantee you it didn't actually cost
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Speaker 1: a million dollars. Those people are on staff, Okay, you're
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Speaker 1: paying them anyways, And yes, you have extra costs for
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Speaker 1: the production, but it's all production. It's all part of
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Speaker 1: the gig. It sunk costs. Shell out the million. You
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Speaker 1: don't even have to. She are going your pocket for it.
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Speaker 1: It's in your business. You're spending the money anyways. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you have to charge a million dollars. Do you know
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Speaker 1: how many votes a million dollars can help you generate?
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Speaker 1: When it comes to phone banks or getting out the vote.
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Speaker 1: I don't actually know, but I know that it's a lot.
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Speaker 1: This is historically dumb. Beyonce ten million dollars reportedly, okay,
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars to show up, not even to perform,
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Speaker 1: to give a speech, just to show up, just to
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Speaker 1: show up and talk. Now, I don't know how real
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Speaker 1: that ten million dollar number is based on the sourcing
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Speaker 1: that I've seen, but I guarantee you Beyonce did not
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Speaker 1: do it for free, and I guarantee you that she
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Speaker 1: didn't come cheap. I said it before, historically stupid. I
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Speaker 1: can't get over how dumb this is, how dumb it
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Speaker 1: is for these artists to take money out of the
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Speaker 1: campaign coffers such a tightly contested race, when every single
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Speaker 1: penny matters. Now it's not just their fault, it's the
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Speaker 1: campaign's fault as well, for thinking that celebrity endorsements matter
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, or if they ever mattered, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. They clearly didn't this year, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think they're ever going to again. But most of the
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Speaker 1: blame here should be directed at these artists. What do
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Speaker 1: you think the MC five got paid for playing the
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight Democrat National Convention. I know they didn't
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Speaker 1: play it for the Democrats, but they played it for
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Speaker 1: a cause. And what do you think they got paid.
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Speaker 1: What do you think Frank Sinatra charged John F. Kennedy
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Speaker 1: for recording the nineteen sixty campaign theme song. Was Paul
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Speaker 1: Newman charging Eugene McCarthy for his stump speeches supporting the
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Speaker 1: anti Vietnam war candidate in nineteen sixty eight. How much
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Speaker 1: did Fleetwood back pocket from lending don't stop to the
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Speaker 1: Clinton Gore campaign so the baby boomers could feel all
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Speaker 1: gooey about voting George H. W. Bush out of office.
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Speaker 1: I can tell you they made bub kiss. They did
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Speaker 1: it because they sincerely believed in the words that were
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Speaker 1: coming out of their mouthholes. Okay, those artists believed in
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Speaker 1: their politics, not like today. Our American politics today have
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Speaker 1: more in common with professional wrestling than they do with
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Speaker 1: the pre two thousands political fights. And mostly it's all bullshit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: It's all a bunch of crap, as demonstrated by the
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Speaker 1: greed of these celebrities. Now listen. Conservative media ran this
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Speaker 1: story during the campaign about how all the musicians and
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Speaker 1: celebrities who were endorsing Kamala Harris were celebrities who were
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Speaker 1: at Ditty's freakofs Cardi b Jennifer Lopez, Usher, and the
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Speaker 1: insinuation was that these celebrities were being blackmailed into their support. Okay, now,
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Speaker 1: this is a very fun conspiracy and one that I'd
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Speaker 1: be interested in if this news didn't break recently in
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Speaker 1: the last few days about these celebrities fleecing the Harris
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Speaker 1: Wallas campaign for millions that could have gone to the
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Speaker 1: candidate's victory, the candidate they supposedly believed in. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: fear of being outed for embarrassing or bad behavior at
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Speaker 1: Sean Combs's house, Okay, it was just straight up greed. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed for a lot of reasons, but I'm mainly
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Speaker 1: disappointed because the reality here is far less interesting from
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Speaker 1: my standpoint than the conspiracy. I wish these celebrities were
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Speaker 1: supporting a political candidate because they were being blackmailed, because
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Speaker 1: that's an incredible story. But again, no, just greed, fucking
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Speaker 1: boring greed. Greed is less interesting, but it isn't less angering.
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Speaker 1: The lesson I have to remember here as a middle
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Speaker 1: aged man. The lesson is a lesson that I learned
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Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, and it's that establishment mainstream
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Speaker 1: celebrities are completely full of shit, and they exist only
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Speaker 1: to keep themselves firmly in sconced in the establishment. Punk
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Speaker 1: Rock taught me that, and it's a truism that has
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Speaker 1: never let me down, and I will believe it until
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Speaker 1: I die. Why anyone on any side of the political
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Speaker 1: spectrum will put their faith in the celebrity much less
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Speaker 1: an establishment celebrity is beyond me.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: If you're one of these people, I'm telling you stop.
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Speaker 1: Here's your proof right here. These people don't care about you.
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Speaker 1: They are vapid and soulless, and they don't care about us.
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Speaker 1: They don't care about me, they don't care about you.
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Speaker 1: They don't care about their country, they don't care about
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Speaker 1: your favorite politician. Their status is all they care about.
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Speaker 1: Their status is all that matters, and the money is
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Speaker 1: part of that status. When they can combine both by
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Speaker 1: supporting what they believe to be the winning team and
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Speaker 1: get paid millions of dollars in the process, and they're winning,
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Speaker 1: coming and going, we're the losers for believing in them,
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Speaker 1: for believing in these celebrities, because at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, they're just as greedy and dishonest as the
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Speaker 1: politicians that their support. Now onto the Grand Pooba of
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Speaker 1: celebrity grossness, Shawn Combs. Here's the news from this week.
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Speaker 1: First on the disgrace Land front. I'm halfway through writing
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Speaker 1: a new full episode on Shawn Combs and I've never
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Speaker 1: written an easier episode in my life. Okay, I've also
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Speaker 1: never been more horrified. Seriously, this episode deals mostly with
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Speaker 1: Diddy's violent relationship with Cassiventor that we've all seen unfold
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Speaker 1: on television. We've seen the video, but there is so
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Speaker 1: much more to it. A lot of the details that
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Speaker 1: are going to be in this episode they're coming straight
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Speaker 1: from the indictment. Okay, the first indictment, the Cassi Evendura
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Speaker 1: indictment that Shawn Combs paid his way out of. It
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Speaker 1: reads like its own true crime novel. And researching that
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Speaker 1: I'm in the research that I've been doing. I'm also
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Speaker 1: starting to see how all the events in Shawn Combs's
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Speaker 1: life line up over multiple episodes, potential disgrace Land episodes,
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Speaker 1: and I'm stoked to write cord these for you. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to pepper them in throughout the year. We're not
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Speaker 1: going to do like ten in a row or anything
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Speaker 1: like that, but they'll all be of a piece and
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Speaker 1: you're going to see that the details here though, these
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Speaker 1: details are all readily available right now on the Internet.
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Speaker 1: They're so shocking that the media isn't giving them a
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Speaker 1: lot of light. Okay, So that's what I'm here for,
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Speaker 1: to bring you the shocking details, to bring them to
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Speaker 1: the surface, which with as much dramatic audio storytelling possible.
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Speaker 1: I'm stoke for you guys to hear this first episode.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be our first episode of the new year. Actually, okay,
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Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of great stuff coming before then.
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Speaker 1: We got a themed episodes coming next week, which I'll
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Speaker 1: talk about in a bit. We've got we've got some
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving themed episodes coming later in the month, and of
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Speaker 1: course some Christmas stuff coming new and old that I'm
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Speaker 1: psyched to be bringing you. But the ditty stuff next year,
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Speaker 1: buckle up, it's going to be incredible. I'm gonna be
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Speaker 1: giving you some details, some new details actually on ditty
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Speaker 1: that broke this week this morning actually in the all
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Speaker 1: access portion of this after party coming up. But first,
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Speaker 1: just a quick note on next week's episode. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: just alluded to this. Next week is the third week
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Speaker 1: of November, a week that looms darkly every year, as
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Speaker 1: this was the week President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed, as you guys know, I'm obsessed with this topic.
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Speaker 1: We're releasing into the feed next week our episode on
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Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson. Yes true, Detective Woody cheers Woody. White men
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Speaker 1: can't jump Woody. And in in Woody story, we get
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Speaker 1: into the story of his father. Okay, for those of
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Speaker 1: you who don't know, it is, and it has been
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Speaker 1: suspected for years that Woody's dad was one of the
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Speaker 1: three gunmen on the Grassy Knoll the day they gunned
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Speaker 1: down our last disruptive Commander in Chief, John F. Kennedy.
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Speaker 1: Woody's dad was arrested that day again on the Grassy Knoll,
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of validity to the theory involving
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Speaker 1: his father. So when you're listening to this episode, I
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Speaker 1: want you guys to be thinking about all you know
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Speaker 1: about the jfk assassination and I want to hear from
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Speaker 1: you for next week's Question of the Week. What your
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Speaker 1: theories are on who killed jf K and why. Now
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Speaker 1: Trump says he's really going to release the files, the
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Speaker 1: JFK files this term, so this could be fun. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we can create a permanent record here of what the
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Speaker 1: theories are, what you guys think, who you think killed JFK.
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Speaker 1: And then assuming we actually find out, we can go
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Speaker 1: back and we can roll the tape and we can
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Speaker 1: see who was right, who was wrong. We can piece
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Speaker 1: it all together, and I promise it'll be more interesting
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Speaker 1: than al Capone's tomb than the revealing of Bob Woodwards
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Speaker 1: deep throat. I think this is a really fascinating exercise
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Speaker 1: that we can all sort of be part of in
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Speaker 1: the real in real time as it pertains to the
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Speaker 1: historical record. Super interesting to me, and I think you
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Speaker 1: guys are interested in this as well. So Woody Harrelson
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, along with his dad on the Grassy Knoll
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on who killed JFK. I can't wait to
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Speaker 1: hear them and talk about them with you next week
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Speaker 1: in the after party. And we're also gonna have a
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Speaker 1: JFK related rewind episode next week as well, but that's
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Speaker 1: next week. Like I said, for now, a quick break
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Speaker 1: than your voicemails, text and more back in a flash.
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Speaker 1: All Right, you guys don't want to talk about Allah
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Speaker 1: and the greatest female R and B singers of all time,
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Speaker 1: presumably because the answer is Amy Winehouse and it's not
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Speaker 1: even worth debating. See what I did there, But judging
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Speaker 1: from your calls and your text, the subject of greatest
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Speaker 1: sports town and greatest sports movie a question that arose
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Speaker 1: in last week's after party, those questions are far more
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Speaker 1: interesting to you, guys, So me, being a man of
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Speaker 1: the people, without further ado, Here is Beth in the
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Speaker 1: three one three.
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Speaker 2: Hey, jankis best from Detroit, Detroit Rocks, Detroit Tigers twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four, Detroit Lions, Detroit Red Wings, the Pistons when
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Speaker 2: they're on Detroit is an awesome, awesome, awesome sports town.
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Speaker 1: Best loved Bill Lambier. I can't lie, and I love
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Speaker 1: Jim Lalan ripping heaters, smoking his butts on the bench,
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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of pulling for the Detroit Lions to
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Speaker 1: get a Super Bowl one of these days. So there
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Speaker 1: you go, Detroit rock City. All right, let's check out
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Speaker 1: Barry in the nine oh four.
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Speaker 3: What is up Buried from the nineh four too much
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Speaker 3: to text. I'll go through this quickly. I hate to
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Speaker 3: admit it, but LA has to be probably the world's
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Speaker 3: greatest sports down definitely America, but possibly the worlds. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: the football, NFL football out there. You have UCLA and USC.
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Speaker 3: UCLA with their you know, they have a football history,
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Speaker 3: but also a basketball history of course, USC with their
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Speaker 3: football history. You have hockey, the LA Kings. You have
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Speaker 3: two basketball teams, one like a global franchise, the Lakers
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Speaker 3: and the Clippers and their shit, the Dodgers from the
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Speaker 3: World Series, the Los Angeles Anaheim Angels of Anaheim of
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Speaker 3: the World. Well, I miss so you got all the
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Speaker 3: major sports. You have awesome college sports there, and they
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Speaker 3: hosted they hosted the Olympics. So yeah, probably one of
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Speaker 3: the world's greatest sports cities. As much as it pains
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Speaker 3: me to admit it. That's all for me, Jake, thanks
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Speaker 3: for the Pulture Guys episode, and thank you so much.
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Speaker 3: I'm so so waiting to hear about the nineteen eighty
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Speaker 3: six New York Mets. My sons are Mets fans from Jersey.
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Speaker 3: I'm a Braves fan from the humble chaln of Albany. Georgia,
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Speaker 3: but looking forward to it.
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Speaker 2: Man, thanks day, Barry.
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Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. I don't like it,
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Speaker 1: but I hear you. Okay, it's hard for me to
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Speaker 1: get with Los Angeles. It's hard for me to get
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Speaker 1: with LA. Randy Newman aside, I was of course happy
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Speaker 1: to see the Dodgers beat the Yankees, and uh. I
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Speaker 1: was talking to a Yankees fan the other night at
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Speaker 1: my son's baseball game, and he was telling me that
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox lent the Dodgers their plane to fly
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Speaker 1: back with after the championship or something like that. I
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Speaker 1: thought that was a classy move, another sort of dagger
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Speaker 1: in the heart of the Yankees. I also regarding LA,
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Speaker 1: I guess gun to head. I don't know, man, I
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Speaker 1: love those Lakers uniforms. It's weird. As a Celtics fan,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I had those James Worthy sneakers grown up.
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Speaker 1: That might be part of it. But yeah, it would
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Speaker 1: be interesting for someone to tally up the LA championships
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Speaker 1: versus the New York championships. I don't think it comes close,
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Speaker 1: even if you do include college championships. I could be wrong, though,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Barry, if you want to,
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Speaker 1: if you want to get into that exercise and hit
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Speaker 1: me back, go for it, all right. Six one seven,
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. That's how you
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Speaker 1: get in touched. That's how you leave me a voicemail.
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Speaker 1: You know. The question of the week for next week
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be what are your thoughts on the JFK conspiracy?
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Speaker 1: Who killed JFK? I want to know, Let's get it.
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Speaker 1: Let's create a record of it here in the after
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Speaker 1: party in Disgraceland. All right, six one seven, nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight. If you're shy, you don't
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Speaker 1: want to leave a voicemail, just send me a text
18:14
Speaker 1: like the nine to one six jake. When it comes
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Speaker 1: to the greatest sports movies of all time, how can
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Speaker 1: you not mention Major League in the top ten? Like
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Speaker 1: Caddy Shack. So many one liners from that from that
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Speaker 1: movie have been embedded into our culture. Just the bit outside.
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Speaker 1: It's a brilliant underdog story that resonates now more than ever.
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Speaker 1: Terrible owner tries to tank the team to move into
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Speaker 1: Miami and build a mega stadium. It's kind of it's
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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, the same story, A slap shot
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Speaker 1: I mean, not really, but kind of. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: definitely get in. I could see the writers of Major
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Speaker 1: League seeing slap Shot and being like, oh shit, I
18:52
Speaker 1: know what I need to do. Anyhow, Yeah, I didn't
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Speaker 1: mention Major League. I didn't not mention it on purpose.
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Speaker 1: I love Major League.
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Speaker 2: Really.
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Speaker 1: The Charlie Sheen character in particular is just hysterical, and
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Speaker 1: Tom Berenger is just one of the great assholes, like
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Speaker 1: asshole characters in nineteen eighties film. I don't mean he's
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Speaker 1: an asshole of a guy. I know nothing about Tom Behringer,
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Speaker 1: but he just reminds me of those like super tough
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Speaker 1: guys from my small town growing up, who just always
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Speaker 1: seem to be pissed. They always drove trucks and they
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Speaker 1: wore their baseball hats in a particular kind of way.
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Speaker 1: Tom Behringer kind of embodies that for me, and he
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Speaker 1: really really brings it to the forefront in Major League.
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Speaker 1: Great movie. All right, this one comes from the nine
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Speaker 1: to oh nine. Hey, Jake, this is Luke. I've been
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Speaker 1: sitting on a recommendation for a while. The nineteen nineteen
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Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox aka the Black Sox is a story
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Speaker 1: practically made for you. Keep up the great work. Also separately,
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Speaker 1: I just listened to the segment in the after Party
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Speaker 1: where you talked about your ten year old's baseball team.
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Speaker 1: Youth sports, when done right, is one of the best
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Speaker 1: things we have going in our communities. I hope you
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Speaker 1: continue to enjoy the hell out of and if you
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Speaker 1: haven't done it already, consider coaching a team. It's amazing. Luke. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: thanks for the recommendation. This has been on my radar,
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Speaker 1: but not on my mind. And you know I've I've
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Speaker 1: seen part of that John Cusack movie on the Black Sox.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember what it's called. I need to figure
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Speaker 1: this out, and I need to watch it, and I
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Speaker 1: need to I need to do an episode. You're right,
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Speaker 1: do you need to do an episode on the Black Socks?
20:25
Speaker 1: And maybe I'll do that for Opening Day baseball next year.
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Speaker 1: That's actually I like that idea. We've already got our
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Speaker 1: schedule pretty much set for next year, but I think
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Speaker 1: I can slot that one in. Maybe maybe Matt Bowden
20:38
Speaker 1: will allow it. Matt, if you're listening, and I know
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Speaker 1: you are because you're editing this, think about that Matt's
20:43
Speaker 1: baseball fan. Maybe it'll happen. As for coaching, I coached once.
20:48
Speaker 1: I coached my oldest son in T ball, and I
20:52
Speaker 1: found that by not coaching he was learning more. That
20:57
Speaker 1: was my theory anyways, and that held until this year.
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Speaker 1: And uh, I've got I've got a new opinion. I
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Speaker 1: have the opposite opinion actually, so I'm considering it. I'm
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Speaker 1: considering it for next year. We shall see. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: the text, Louke, appreciate you five three zero rights and
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Speaker 1: hey Jake, Zach from the five to three, Oh great
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Speaker 1: episode on the Mets. An excellent read for the book
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Speaker 1: club participants in baseball fans is Ron Darling's book one
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Speaker 1: hundred and eight Stitches, Loose Threads, Ripping Yarns and the
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Speaker 1: Darnedest characters from my time in the game. Keep on
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Speaker 1: keeping on. Thanks for the rec Zach on the book club.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have more on that in a little bit here.
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to talk about in the next
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Speaker 1: segment we've got we've got to narrow down to two books.
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Speaker 1: And uh, Zach, man, get in here. It's it's all
21:42
Speaker 1: women in the book club and me I'm the only guy,
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Speaker 1: so uh yeah, come on, get in I'll have details
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Speaker 1: in the next segment. All right, book Club's going to
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Speaker 1: be end of December, middle of December, something like that.
21:54
Speaker 1: Before the holiday craziness. I got to do one more
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Speaker 1: text here, this one, and us to put a nail
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Speaker 1: on the coffin here of the the question of best
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Speaker 1: sports town, which grew out of that Mets episode there obviously.
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Speaker 1: This one comes from my beloved six one seven Hey Jake,
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Speaker 1: Rebecca from the six one seven, now the six five.
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Speaker 1: Boston is title town. During the eighteen years I lived there,
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Speaker 1: I saw nine championships in experience, four in person championship
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Speaker 1: parades in the city Q the duck boats city shuts
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Speaker 1: down for our championships. Boston is the best and most
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Speaker 1: hardcore fans of any city, and we like to brag
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Speaker 1: about it. And you know what, Rebecca, You're not wrong.
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Speaker 1: It's Boston. It's always been Boston. There you go, six
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Speaker 1: at Disgrace lamb pod on the old X machine and
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Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook so on X last night. This is
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Speaker 1: unrelated to the question of the week, but I don't care.
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Speaker 1: For some reason. Mike, my six year old is very
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Speaker 1: interested in Big Star. And I'm not trying to be like, oh,
22:57
Speaker 1: my kid's so cool. It has it's just everything to
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Speaker 1: do with the logo on the first album, The Neon Star.
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Speaker 1: I think he's seen that on the stereo in the car,
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Speaker 1: you know, when it shows you the sort of image
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Speaker 1: of whatever the record's playing. So he's become obsessed with it,
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Speaker 1: and it got me into listening to a bunch of
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Speaker 1: Big Star. Last night. I was having a good night
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Speaker 1: chilling out by the pool listen to the Big Star
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Speaker 1: and I had this post, just a dumb post on TikTok,
23:22
Speaker 1: nothing groundbreaking at all, and I said, my head quote,
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Speaker 1: thirteen is Big Star's best song. My heart quote, have
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Speaker 1: you heard September Girls? I love September Girls? And Jamie
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Speaker 1: Smith wrote in the Bengals cover of September Girls is
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Speaker 1: great and I'm reading this because a I had no
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Speaker 1: idea The Bengals did a cover of Big Star, which
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Speaker 1: is incredible, and I'm remembering now in reading this text
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Speaker 1: the Bengals cover of Paul Simon and Arc Carfuncals Hazy
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Speaker 1: Shade of Winter for the Less Than Zero soundtrack. Excellent soundtrack,
23:57
Speaker 1: by the way, Bengals slayerblic Enemy, and it's got me thinking,
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Speaker 1: have I not given enough attention to the Bengals in
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Speaker 1: my life? You know? Are they like just a band
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Speaker 1: that I wrote off as just this like girl group
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Speaker 1: with a couple of singles and not really worthy of
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Speaker 1: exploring their catalog? And Jamie here on the old X
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Speaker 1: Machine has got me reconsidering my Bengals take. I might
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Speaker 1: need to go back. September Girls is an incredible song.
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Speaker 1: So it was thirteen Big Star My goodness. Also on
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Speaker 1: X I bring this up because we had a little conversation.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read the DMS here. We were
24:31
Speaker 1: talking about this movie that I watched last week called
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Speaker 1: Out of the Blue. And I got to tell you
24:36
Speaker 1: guys about this movie because it's one of the best
24:38
Speaker 1: music movies I've ever seen. It's directed by Dennis Hopper.
24:43
Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper stars in it. It's a really cool thing
24:45
Speaker 1: that happened with this movie. Now give you the premise
24:47
Speaker 1: of this movie. And again, I learned a bunch of
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Speaker 1: this on X in conversation with some of you, So
24:51
Speaker 1: if you're listening, thank you. But I want to share
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Speaker 1: this with the rest of you. This movie. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper was making this movie. Not sure what it
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be called, but it was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be about a young girl who's going through a lot
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Speaker 1: of troubles. She's seeing a therapist and I don't know
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Speaker 1: what happens, but anyways, they get close to finishing the
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Speaker 1: movie and the producers scrap it. They see the dailies.
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Speaker 1: They hate it, they don't want to finish it. And
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Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper raises his hand and he's like, I'll finish it.
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Speaker 1: I'll rewrite the whole thing and I'll direct it. And
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Speaker 1: the reason he did this and there was some insane
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Speaker 1: time limit, like he wrote the whole thing in a
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Speaker 1: weekend and then they shot it over the course of
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Speaker 1: a week or something like that. They had to take
25:26
Speaker 1: advantage of the production they already had set up. I
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Speaker 1: think that's what was happening. But the reason Dennis Hopper
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Speaker 1: does this, I believe this is in like nineteen eighty,
25:32
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, something like that. The reason that Dennis
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Speaker 1: Hopper takes on this opportunity that arises for him is
25:38
Speaker 1: because he couldn't direct a movie to save his life.
25:41
Speaker 1: No one was going to let him direct a movie
25:43
Speaker 1: after the debacle of the last movie. If you don't
25:46
Speaker 1: know that story, it's basically, Dennis Hopper is like the
25:48
Speaker 1: hottest actor on the planet because the Easy Rider is
25:50
Speaker 1: huge and it changes Hollywood. And then they back up
25:52
Speaker 1: a truck full of money and they dump it on
25:54
Speaker 1: his head and he goes down to South America to
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Speaker 1: make this movie. He ends up doing a bunch of
25:57
Speaker 1: cocaine and the movie's fucking awful. So after that, never
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Speaker 1: gonna let him do a movie again. And then he's
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Speaker 1: on this indie whatever, and like I said, it goes
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Speaker 1: into the toilet, and he takes the advantage of the
26:07
Speaker 1: opportunity to write it and direct it. Okay, now this
26:11
Speaker 1: movie you can tell it's fascinating to me. Again I said,
26:15
Speaker 1: it's one of the best music movies I've ever seen,
26:17
Speaker 1: because Dennis Hopper was clearly influenced by punk rock when
26:21
Speaker 1: he made this movie, and by Neil Young, and in
26:24
Speaker 1: particular again this movie is called out of the Blue
26:26
Speaker 1: in particular the Hey, Hey My My, Out of the
26:29
Speaker 1: Blue and the Black Johnny Rotten and all this stuff,
26:31
Speaker 1: in particular Neil Young's take on punk rock. And you
26:35
Speaker 1: have this confluence of these two things of Neil Young,
26:38
Speaker 1: who had his soul as punk as fuck, but not
26:41
Speaker 1: part of that scene in any way. And he's commenting
26:44
Speaker 1: on the sex pistols, and he's commenting on punk rock
26:47
Speaker 1: in that tune. And then you have Dennis Hopper's take
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Speaker 1: on all the punk that's going on in the world
26:52
Speaker 1: at the time as well. It's all it all infuses
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Speaker 1: this character. Dennis Hopper acts his ass off in this.
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Speaker 1: The young woman in the lead role, Linda Manns, is
27:03
Speaker 1: just incredible. This movie Guys out of the Blue. If
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Speaker 1: you can find it, I highly recommend it. A quick
27:09
Speaker 1: note on this this apparently just went out of circulation
27:13
Speaker 1: and back in like twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. Chloe seventy
27:17
Speaker 1: and Natasha Leone or Leon excuse me if I'm pronouncing
27:21
Speaker 1: her name wrong, the great actress from Sums of Beverly
27:24
Speaker 1: Hills and Orange is the New Black. They put together
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Speaker 1: a GoFundMe. They crowdsore or something. They crowdsourced the restoration
27:33
Speaker 1: of this film and they're the reason that we can
27:36
Speaker 1: now watch it and I understand why. The female character
27:40
Speaker 1: at the center of this movie is one of the
27:42
Speaker 1: most badass characters I've ever seen in a movie. I'm
27:46
Speaker 1: not joking, that's not hyperbole. She is incredible and wow
27:51
Speaker 1: the ending. So go watch this. It's a tough watch,
27:54
Speaker 1: but it's an incredible watch. Out of the Blue. Anyways,
27:57
Speaker 1: this all stemmed from a conversation we were having on
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Speaker 1: X and I thought I would bring it to the
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Speaker 1: rest of you here at Disgrace ANDDPOD on X on Instagram,
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Speaker 1: uh everywhere six one seven, nine oh six six six
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28:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate this from Joel gershon Wright saying, Hey, love
28:34
Speaker 1: your podcast, but a couple things in the last episodes.
28:38
Speaker 1: Regular listener. Here in native New Yorker who grew up
28:40
Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties, and I flagged a couple
28:42
Speaker 1: of things from the Mets. Episode one. You said the
28:44
Speaker 1: Yanks were from Manhattan, while I'm a Mets fan to
28:47
Speaker 1: the core and hate the Yanks, who are indeed the
28:49
Speaker 1: more upscale, high profile team. They are from the Bronx,
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Speaker 1: not Manhattan. Okay, listen, I did say they're from Manhattan,
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Speaker 1: and I should have qualified this in a different way.
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with the point that the emailer is
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Speaker 1: most Yankees fans are Manhattan fans. There, most Yankees fans,
29:11
Speaker 1: most Mets fans are Queen's Long Island, et cetera. But
29:15
Speaker 1: I also say that from the Bronx repeatedly. But still
29:18
Speaker 1: I confuse the issue in the way that I described
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Speaker 1: it in the episode, and I deserve to take a
29:23
Speaker 1: little heat from it here, and I should probably go
29:25
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29:29
Speaker 1: the emailer here, Joel says too, Donald Maine's last name
29:33
Speaker 1: was pronounced Manus, not like you said it, which rhymes
29:37
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29:41
Speaker 1: I guess I'm taking your word for it, Donald Manus Manus. Now,
29:45
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go back and correct that because
29:47
Speaker 1: I say is day have like a thousand times, but
29:50
Speaker 1: I appreciate the correction here. Let's see here. What else
29:53
Speaker 1: does Joel say on that note? If you if you
29:55
Speaker 1: have a need for another producer editor, i'd love to
29:57
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29:58
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