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- 0:02Speaker 1: College football with Stu Gatz and the Bear.
- 0:05Speaker 2: And, of course, everyone knows the exact right time to
- 0:08Speaker 2: start a college football show is week four of the
- 0:11Speaker 2: college football season.
- 0:12Speaker 1: There's T-Bob again.
- 0:13Speaker 3: That's right. Special guests. Glad to be back, guys. Love
- 0:17Speaker 3: coming to hang out with Stu Gatz and the Bear.
- 0:19Speaker 1: College football. Mario Cristobal, head coach at the University of Miami.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.
- 0:24Speaker 4: I just don't find any value in it. Humans, like,
- 0:27Speaker 4: just spewing.
- 0:28Speaker 5: Diarrhea out of their mouth.
- 0:30Speaker 1: With Stu Gotts.
- 0:31Speaker 3: I can give a rat's fat ass about what he
- 0:33Speaker 3: says or does.
- 0:34Speaker 5: And the Bear.
- 0:35Speaker 4: The Bear is awesome.
- 0:37Speaker 3: You're listening to College Football with Stu Gotts and the Bear.
- 0:41Speaker 2: It is the College Football Show with Stu Gotts and
- 0:44Speaker 2: the Bear.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And look who's here.
- 0:47Speaker 2: It is T-Bob Hebert, the host of Wake Up Barstool, 8.
- 0:51Speaker 1: To 10 a.m.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Eastern every day on FS1, wherever you get your podcasts
- 0:56Speaker 2: as well. Urban Meyer going to join us in about
- 0:58Speaker 2: 15 minutes or so. Very much looking forward to having
- 1:02Speaker 2: Urban on.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Guys. The committee got together. They released their rankings last night.
- 1:08Speaker 2: They're going to force us to talk about something that
- 1:10Speaker 2: we shouldn't be talking about because all this will be
- 1:13Speaker 2: settled on the playing field.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Probably this weekend.
- 1:17Speaker 2: With that being said, I think the big takeaway for
- 1:20Speaker 2: everyone was just how far down in the rankings Notre
- 1:24Speaker 2: Dame is and how important this game against Miami has
- 1:28Speaker 2: become for not Miami, just for Notre Dame. To me,
- 1:32Speaker 2: I think that's the number one takeaway. from the first
- 1:35Speaker 2: rankings of the season last night.
- 1:38Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait to ask Urban about that, just
- 1:42Speaker 6: putting him in a position as a head coach where
- 1:45Speaker 6: now all you are doing, if you are Marcus Freeman
- 1:48Speaker 6: or a Notre Dame player or a Notre Dame assistant, that,
- 1:51Speaker 6: oh my God, we're number 11. If we lose, we
- 1:53Speaker 6: are probably out. This is a de facto playoff winning
- 1:57Speaker 6: in kind of game for us. I just wonder what
- 2:00Speaker 6: the The psychology, the mentality, is that something you embrace?
- 2:03Speaker 6: Is that something you fear?
- 2:04Speaker 5: You're going to be loose.
- 2:05Speaker 6: You're going to be tight. Like I think the way
- 2:08Speaker 6: I think and treat it, I think it helps them.
- 2:11Speaker 6: I think it's going to be, you're going to be
- 2:12Speaker 6: able to get a very high level. I think you're
- 2:14Speaker 6: going to be more focused. I think you're aware of
- 2:16Speaker 6: the stakes. I expect Notre Dame to play their best
- 2:19Speaker 6: game of the year on Saturday night.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's important when you look at the
- 2:22Speaker 3: playoff rankings, as Stu alluded to, a lot of it
- 2:24Speaker 3: is going to play out and teams will naturally get eliminated.
- 2:27Speaker 3: I mean, look at this weekend slate. We have multiple
- 2:30Speaker 3: pseudo-elimination games on the docket. But there are things you
- 2:33Speaker 3: care for. Notre Dame chief among them. Also, where does
- 2:37Speaker 3: the Big Ten stand? Like, is the Big Ten a
- 2:39Speaker 3: two-bid league right now when you look at it currently?
- 2:44Speaker 3: And granted, it's hard to peer too far into the
- 2:46Speaker 3: future because all the variables and the things that can happen, but...
- 2:50Speaker 3: there's been a lot of talk of SEC bias. I
- 2:54Speaker 3: don't know that I fully agree with that. I mean,
- 2:57Speaker 3: certainly the Alabama one, like Alabama at five feels a
- 3:00Speaker 3: little crazy to me, especially because in college football, we've
- 3:02Speaker 3: always said when you lose matters. And yet here, Alabama sits,
- 3:06Speaker 3: the two wins that were probably them up for were
- 3:08Speaker 3: before the two losses. So like, that's kind of something
- 3:11Speaker 3: that we have never seen before. That said, if you
- 3:14Speaker 3: just look at the big 10 right now, Illinois is fifth.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Like once you get past the top four, like USC
- 3:21Speaker 3: is four, and then you get to Illinois and every
- 3:24Speaker 3: team already has three losses. So if you're mad about
- 3:27Speaker 3: the SEC being overranked going into this week, fair, but
- 3:31Speaker 3: there will be a lot of SEC teams that join
- 3:34Speaker 3: the three loss ranks. We got LSU, Alabama this week,
- 3:37Speaker 3: and we got Texas, Mizzou this weekend. Like these teams
- 3:40Speaker 3: that you think are ranked too high, one of them
- 3:42Speaker 3: is going to fall there.
- 3:44Speaker 6: And Oregon is a team that's ranked down in the
- 3:46Speaker 6: college football playoff top 20. And Jeff Schwartz and I
- 3:49Speaker 6: kind of joked about this. I wouldn't say joke.
- 3:52Speaker 5: He brought it up.
- 3:53Speaker 6: He's like, Oregon should probably be ranked. He goes, you
- 3:55Speaker 6: look at Oregon. They beat Boise, who's going to be ranked.
- 3:58Speaker 6: They beat USC relatively easily, the backup quarterback. And your
- 4:03Speaker 6: losses are, you lost a 2-2. a two point game
- 4:07Speaker 6: to UCLA was undefeated and you turn the ball over
- 4:09Speaker 6: seven times. And yeah, you lost a game on the
- 4:12Speaker 6: road against Illinois when you had five wide receivers suspended, like,
- 4:15Speaker 6: like they're alive for the big 10 championship.
- 4:17Speaker 5: It can still get in.
- 4:19Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that about the, this sec like bias. I.
- 4:23Speaker 5: I just don't, who are you ranking? Who should be
- 4:27Speaker 5: ahead of them?
- 4:28Speaker 6: UCLA's strength of schedule is terrible, and they really don't
- 4:32Speaker 6: have a win. BYU beat Notre Dame, I'll give you that,
- 4:36Speaker 6: but outside of that, there's no one else. Ohio State's
- 4:40Speaker 6: quarterback issues are a problem right now. I just don't
- 4:43Speaker 6: know where the Texas Tech got blown out by Cincinnati,
- 4:46Speaker 6: and yeah, you came back and you and you won
- 4:49Speaker 6: last week against Arizona. But all of these teams, I'm
- 4:53Speaker 6: a big believer in power ratings, and I like using
- 4:57Speaker 6: them and efficiency numbers in ranking these teams. That is
- 5:01Speaker 6: kind of a football judgment.
- 5:03Speaker 5: That's kind of.
- 5:04Speaker 6: Telling you who these statistics and who the numbers kind
- 5:07Speaker 6: of tell you is a better team. They did, I think,
- 5:10Speaker 6: default a little bit, maybe too much on strength of
- 5:14Speaker 6: schedule here. But like you said, this is all going to,
- 5:17Speaker 6: work itself out this week, next week. It is interesting
- 5:20Speaker 6: because I tweeted out, and I'm sure people are loving
- 5:23Speaker 6: my tweet and going at me.
- 5:25Speaker 5: I haven't checked the comments.
- 5:27Speaker 6: So we're outraged that Alabama and Tennessee, same record. We're
- 5:33Speaker 6: outraged that Alabama's ranked eight spots ahead of Tennessee.
- 5:37Speaker 5: But are we outraged?
- 5:38Speaker 6: I haven't heard the faux visceral anger that Ohio State
- 5:44Speaker 6: is eight spots higher than than USC, who just beat
- 5:47Speaker 6: them by 12 points.
- 5:48Speaker 5: And by the way, USC's record is technically better. It's weird.
- 5:52Speaker 6: We only get mad about the SEC, but not when
- 5:55Speaker 6: it's a Big Ten team.
- 5:55Speaker 5: Is that how it works?
- 5:57Speaker 1: Yes. Well, you're falling for it. I mean, you are.
- 6:01Speaker 1: You're getting upset over it.
- 6:02Speaker 5: I'm not a smart guy, Stu.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Neither am I.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But T-Bob, I'm interested here because the committee has told
- 6:08Speaker 2: you just how good they think the SEC is.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Five of the top 10 teams come from that conference.
- 6:15Speaker 2: That does not include LSU, who has a big opportunity
- 6:19Speaker 2: this weekend to get a win and probably get themselves
- 6:21Speaker 2: a win.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Into that playoff next week.
- 6:24Speaker 2: I am wondering here, do you think, are we arriving
- 6:27Speaker 2: at a point where a three-loss team is going to
- 6:29Speaker 2: get in?
- 6:29Speaker 1: It seems like we are.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Guaranteed.
- 6:33Speaker 5: Guaranteed.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to pretend to project which conference
- 6:36Speaker 3: is going to come from because, again, there's a 85
- 6:39Speaker 3: billion different ways that this could end up shaking out.
- 6:42Speaker 3: But this is a year, again, once you get to
- 6:45Speaker 3: the fifth team in the Big Ten, you're already in
- 6:47Speaker 3: three-loss territory. After this weekend, that will be the SEC
- 6:51Speaker 3: as well.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Yes.
- 6:52Speaker 3: It's the inverse of last year, interestingly, where 10-2 Vanderbilt
- 6:55Speaker 3: gets left out.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:56Speaker 3: If Vanderbilt continues to do this, you're guaranteed to get in.
- 6:59Speaker 3: This is the complete opposite. You're going to see at
- 7:01Speaker 3: least one. You might see multiple 9-3 teams get in,
- 7:05Speaker 3: and it is going to be hellish trying to decide
- 7:09Speaker 3: out of like five, three lost teams who needs to
- 7:13Speaker 3: be the one or two that gets in. And actually,
- 7:15Speaker 3: if you want to talk like conspiracies, psyops, right? Big
- 7:21Speaker 3: college football trying to fuck with us. This might all
- 7:24Speaker 3: be a 2014 playoff game, you know, just, just a
- 7:27Speaker 3: big agenda play here because the more frustrating and, and,
- 7:31Speaker 3: and nauseating they make the conversation of, we know who's better.
- 7:34Speaker 3: We're like, you know what, let's get to 24 so
- 7:37Speaker 3: we can just settle this on the field. I don't know.
- 7:40Speaker 3: That was kind of one of my initial reactions to that.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Some of this first playoff. I'm interested to see what
- 7:44Speaker 3: Coach Meyer thinks about that. But yeah, three losses getting
- 7:47Speaker 3: in for sure.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Here, Stu. They're planting seeds, yes. Planting seeds. I'm totally
- 7:52Speaker 1: with you.
- 7:52Speaker 2: The Notre Dame thing is fascinating to me because they
- 7:55Speaker 2: lost to BYU.
- 7:57Speaker 1: On the road. It was close. There was a bad call.
- 8:00Speaker 5: Controversial.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Yes, you can make the argument about the bad call.
- 8:03Speaker 2: So I am wondering here and interested in both your opinions.
- 8:06Speaker 2: If Miami wins a very close game, last second field
- 8:11Speaker 2: goal against Notre Dame, we're going to keep a team
- 8:14Speaker 2: that talented in Notre Dame who almost beat BYU on
- 8:17Speaker 2: the road, almost beat Miami who's undefeated. If that plays out,
- 8:23Speaker 2: should Notre Dame get in?
- 8:25Speaker 5: Yes, I think so.
- 8:27Speaker 6: I think, again, using a football judgment and watching them
- 8:30Speaker 6: play and looking at the numbers and the talent that
- 8:34Speaker 6: they have on that team. Again, you look at the
- 8:37Speaker 6: computer ratings, which take in a lot of statistical measures.
- 8:41Speaker 6: They are number one in Sagarin, number one in FPI,
- 8:45Speaker 6: number three in SP +. They have a Top three
- 8:48Speaker 6: unit in both offensive and defensive efficiency, which tells you
- 8:52Speaker 6: the product of how good they are on the field.
- 8:54Speaker 5: They are a really, really good team.
- 8:58Speaker 6: I do wonder if last night's ranking was a little
- 9:03Speaker 6: bit of an FU kind of middle finger to the
- 9:07Speaker 6: whole if Notre Dame is ranked in the top 12 deal,
- 9:10Speaker 6: they're automatically in. And maybe, maybe just kind of make
- 9:13Speaker 6: them sweat a little bit, like subliminally. I don't think
- 9:17Speaker 6: that happened, but people are going to throw that out there.
- 9:20Speaker 6: And it's fair to, to talk because there are a
- 9:22Speaker 6: lot of upset people that they kind of had this
- 9:25Speaker 6: deal where they are, if they're in the top 12
- 9:27Speaker 6: that they're in, but they're, they're clearly one of the
- 9:31Speaker 6: 12 most talented teams in the country. And if they
- 9:33Speaker 6: play Miami, the number one team in the country to a, to,
- 9:36Speaker 6: to the gun or a last second score, or aren't
- 9:39Speaker 6: embarrassed in this game, like, I hate to play like
- 9:43Speaker 6: the who are you picking type of game, but who
- 9:46Speaker 6: are you picking? Like if Notre Dame were to play,
- 9:48Speaker 6: I don't know, Wake Forest or Texas Tech or a
- 9:54Speaker 6: bunch of these teams, T-Bob.
- 9:56Speaker 3: Last year, they didn't deserve to get in because as
- 9:59Speaker 3: we said. there were a lot of teams with impressive records.
- 10:03Speaker 3: This year, I believe, even with a loss, that, yeah,
- 10:07Speaker 3: there's going to be... They win everything else, obviously. There's
- 10:10Speaker 3: going to be enough movement around them where I'm with Barrett.
- 10:13Speaker 3: I don't think they can get left out. That said,
- 10:15Speaker 3: it does feel a bit... like this initial ranking was
- 10:19Speaker 3: a bit of like finger waving from the committee, sort
- 10:22Speaker 3: of chiding them. This ACC scheduling alliance has not paid
- 10:26Speaker 3: dividends for Notre Dame. They got to get away from it.
- 10:30Speaker 3: It hasn't produced enough good games. In fact, all of
- 10:33Speaker 3: college football as a whole. Needs to fix scheduling as,
- 10:35Speaker 3: as we enter this new era, like somebody's got to
- 10:37Speaker 3: get involved. We need the big 10 in the sec
- 10:39Speaker 3: to play each other in regular season. We need a
- 10:41Speaker 3: guarantee of at least 10 power, four games.
- 10:43Speaker 5: We'll get there.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Should we start to talk about some of these games
- 10:46Speaker 3: this weekend?
- 10:46Speaker 5: Because we do have a lot.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Of great stuff to touch on.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Let's do this.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Yep.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Mikey sausage making. Should we get to what we'll talk
- 10:54Speaker 3: to coach Meyer?
- 10:55Speaker 2: Okay.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 10:56Speaker 5: I'll set it.
- 10:56Speaker 7: Okay.
- 10:57Speaker 1: All right, let's do this.
- 10:59Speaker 3: We got Urban Meyer coming up. Let's talk to the
- 11:01Speaker 3: living legend himself, but all things college football, playoff reaction,
- 11:04Speaker 3: everything else. Then on the other side, we'll touch on
- 11:07Speaker 3: some of these games coming up this weekend as it
- 11:09Speaker 3: is one of the greatest slates of our lifetime. We
- 11:12Speaker 3: got more college football show. It's you got some bear.
- 11:39Speaker 2: We are pleased to be joined here by Urban Meyer
- 11:43Speaker 2: after the college football playoff committee released its first rankings. Urban,
- 11:47Speaker 2: let's start here because I have to say it. I'll
- 11:49Speaker 2: say what everyone wants to say. You're in your car
- 11:51Speaker 2: right now. You look like a badass. I have no
- 11:54Speaker 2: idea where you're going. I have no idea what car
- 11:56Speaker 2: you're in, but you look like a badass, my friend.
- 11:58Speaker 7: I'm in a Tesla headed to a golf tournament.
- 12:05Speaker 4: So life is good.
- 12:07Speaker 1: All right. How's the golf game?
- 12:09Speaker 4: Uh, up and down. I should be better.
- 12:11Speaker 7: When I, when I was a coach on five timer,
- 12:14Speaker 7: I'll get over a hundred this year.
- 12:16Speaker 1: All right.
- 12:17Speaker 7: A hundred rounds. I'm about an eight handicap, so I'm
- 12:22Speaker 7: all right.
- 12:22Speaker 5: Don't, don't, don't, don't let him, don't let him sell
- 12:25Speaker 5: himself short.
- 12:26Speaker 6: He and Mark Ingram, when we went to Illinois last
- 12:31Speaker 6: year and went to the Illinois golf club, those two, uh, they,
- 12:35Speaker 6: they can, they can, they can stripe the ball.
- 12:37Speaker 5: They, they, they, They got some game.
- 12:40Speaker 1: What made you think I was doubting Urban's game? I
- 12:42Speaker 1: wasn't doubting Urban's game.
- 12:44Speaker 5: I'm more talking about him. He's kind of downplaying a
- 12:47Speaker 5: little bit.
- 12:48Speaker 2: He's playing court. Coach, what did you make of the
- 12:53Speaker 2: first college football committee's rankings last night?
- 12:56Speaker 1: I'm certain you were watching.
- 12:58Speaker 2: What were your takeaways from something that we really don't
- 13:01Speaker 2: need to respond to, but we feel the need to
- 13:03Speaker 2: when you consider that all these teams are going to
- 13:05Speaker 2: play each other this weekend.
- 13:07Speaker 1: But what were your thoughts here? uh, after the committee's
- 13:10Speaker 1: first release?
- 13:10Speaker 7: Oh, it's a flawed system. You know, the committee is
- 13:14Speaker 7: really an impossible task. You know, you got to track
- 13:17Speaker 7: the schedule. You got this conference versus conference. You got,
- 13:20Speaker 7: how do you evaluate a quality loss, which I I'm,
- 13:23Speaker 7: I'm a big evaluator of that. Uh, I can't stand
- 13:26Speaker 7: the soft schedules. You know, I just can't stand that.
- 13:29Speaker 7: And I think it's bad for the game. And do
- 13:31Speaker 7: you penalize? It seems like they did, but they did it. So, uh,
- 13:35Speaker 7: um i there's a couple you scratch your head you
- 13:38Speaker 7: know one right off the top is why is indiana
- 13:40Speaker 7: four and ucla eight you know i don't i what's
- 13:45Speaker 7: the reasoning there is you can say indiana's had better
- 13:49Speaker 7: wins i don't know if i agree with that you
- 13:51Speaker 7: know you watch them on film we've seen them live
- 13:54Speaker 7: three times i think they're and they're the defending i
- 13:57Speaker 7: guess because they're the defending national champ so i there's
- 14:00Speaker 7: some head scratches but it's going to as you all said,
- 14:03Speaker 7: this is a huge weekend. I mean, this is going
- 14:05Speaker 7: to be, the whole thing they just did is going
- 14:08Speaker 7: to be upside down next week.
- 14:11Speaker 3: Well, and, and coach, you mentioned something that you hate
- 14:13Speaker 3: something that I hate, and I have hated this about the, the,
- 14:17Speaker 3: the 12 team committee for even for the, for a
- 14:18Speaker 3: while now is, is people sitting there and just telling
- 14:23Speaker 3: us like, we know this team is better. We know
- 14:27Speaker 3: this team will win. And it feels like every Saturday
- 14:29Speaker 3: when we watch people play actual football on the field,
- 14:32Speaker 3: it's constantly proving that the opposite is true, that we
- 14:35Speaker 3: never know what's going to happen. So, like, my reaction
- 14:37Speaker 3: last night is, like, bring on the 2014 playoff. Sure,
- 14:41Speaker 3: there will be arguments about seeding and buys, but ultimately, like,
- 14:44Speaker 3: I want it settled on the field. Do you feel
- 14:48Speaker 3: like the 2014 playoff helps address some of the issues
- 14:51Speaker 3: that people have currently with what's going on?
- 14:56Speaker 7: I was adamant about absolutely against the 2014 playoff. Number
- 15:01Speaker 7: one is because it just dilutes the product. But with
- 15:04Speaker 7: the parity that's in this, I never envisioned that NIL
- 15:10Speaker 7: transfer portal would bring parity across this great sport.
- 15:15Speaker 4: That's number one.
- 15:16Speaker 7: Number two is when you start to eliminate, and I
- 15:21Speaker 7: made this comment on TV a bunch, is those who
- 15:23Speaker 7: say those games aren't important, played in it, averaged in it.
- 15:27Speaker 7: Because that's, to me, an SEC championship back in the
- 15:30Speaker 7: day was better than a national championship. Because you would
- 15:34Speaker 7: win it. And even the Big Ten championship in the
- 15:37Speaker 7: last decade has become, I mean, what an event. And
- 15:41Speaker 7: I always go from a player perspective and a coach perspective. However,
- 15:45Speaker 7: I can see now that with this parity, I can
- 15:50Speaker 7: see a 2014 playoff being pretty intriguing.
- 15:53Speaker 4: For the viewer. Because you taught me the Gators.
- 15:56Speaker 7: I think the Gators are, you know, there's a couple
- 15:59Speaker 7: 20-some ranked team that can beat any one of those
- 16:02Speaker 7: teams on the schedule. And it could turn into a
- 16:05Speaker 7: March Madness type event where, you know, the Florida Gators
- 16:08Speaker 7: can go beat Texas Ole Miss and Texas Ole Miss.
- 16:11Speaker 4: And who's their other big win?
- 16:16Speaker 3: Mizzou? Did they beat out or did Mizzou get them?
- 16:18Speaker 5: No, Mizzou got them.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Yeah, Mizzou got them.
- 16:19Speaker 5: It's crazy.
- 16:21Speaker 3: Everybody's winning and losing all over the place.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Yeah. So anybody, my point is saying is anybody can
- 16:27Speaker 4: beat anybody, right?
- 16:28Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:29Speaker 5: And that's true.
- 16:31Speaker 6: I want you to put yourself in Marcus Freeman's shoes
- 16:33Speaker 6: this week. You can, two sides of the coin, people
- 16:38Speaker 6: out there, Notre Dame ranked 11th. You view it as
- 16:42Speaker 6: a must win. Essentially, people are saying they have to
- 16:44Speaker 6: beat Miami to get into the playoff. If they lose,
- 16:46Speaker 6: they're going to be out. Is that a good thing
- 16:49Speaker 6: or a bad thing for preparation teams? For Marcus Freeman
- 16:53Speaker 6: and Notre Dame this week, seemingly with all the pressure
- 16:56Speaker 6: on the world, is this kind of being a must
- 16:59Speaker 6: absolute have to win or else you're going to be
- 17:01Speaker 6: on the outside looking in?
- 17:03Speaker 7: You know, as I can speak for Marcus, I know
- 17:05Speaker 7: him very well. He gives two shits about that. However,
- 17:09Speaker 7: if I was his assistant or if I had a guy,
- 17:11Speaker 7: a GM, I would say make sure you address this
- 17:14Speaker 7: with our team because it's out there. And the players
- 17:17Speaker 7: are staring at their phone nonstop. So your most important
- 17:20Speaker 7: job is to get them perform at a high level Saturday.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Okay, how do you do that? And he only knows
- 17:25Speaker 4: our team.
- 17:26Speaker 7: If that was a mature team and I would, you know,
- 17:31Speaker 7: a mature team, I would say, we, you know, we're
- 17:34Speaker 7: done if we don't win this thing. And you would
- 17:36Speaker 7: have the leaders take over. If that's an immature team,
- 17:39Speaker 7: I'd say, don't, you know, I would go near that
- 17:42Speaker 7: because you're going to, they're going to be nervous enough.
- 17:44Speaker 7: They're going to be tight enough without that extra pressure.
- 17:48Speaker 7: So it depends on the team. But most coaches, again,
- 17:52Speaker 7: who cares? But the bottom line is if you can
- 17:56Speaker 7: use that to motivate your team, do it. But also
- 17:58Speaker 7: don't do it if you have a young team. Because
- 18:01Speaker 7: imagine Notre Dame not making a playoff with that team
- 18:03Speaker 7: they have.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Amazing.
- 18:04Speaker 4: That quarterback they have.
- 18:06Speaker 5: They're done.
- 18:07Speaker 4: If they don't win this one, they'll lose. They're out.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Speaking of out, Coach, have we thrown the baby out
- 18:14Speaker 3: with the bathwater when it comes to Ohio State?
- 18:17Speaker 7: See, Ohio State's got three or four at home. Joel
- 18:21Speaker 7: Klatt and I got in a little bit of an
- 18:22Speaker 7: argument on the call the other day. I thought the quarterback,
- 18:24Speaker 7: first start, true freshman. I imagine he's 18, 19 years old.
- 18:28Speaker 7: I've coached a lot of true freshmen. I thought he
- 18:30Speaker 7: performed admirably. I thought he did not lose that game.
- 18:35Speaker 7: The players around him lost that game. I mentioned 15 penalties.
- 18:39Speaker 7: There's only 11, but four in the red zone. They
- 18:42Speaker 7: had dropped passes. Normally, Ohio State kids don't drop balls.
- 18:46Speaker 7: And their offensive line got punched right in the face. So,
- 18:50Speaker 7: They're good enough. I always go and bears hear me
- 18:55Speaker 7: say this. At this point, I think we all need
- 18:57Speaker 7: to look at the best version of who's out there.
- 18:59Speaker 7: Ohio State, first half against Texas, incredible. But up until then,
- 19:06Speaker 7: since then, it's been very mediocre. You can say LSU, Georgia,
- 19:09Speaker 7: and Alabama, to me, are the best teams in the
- 19:11Speaker 7: country when they're right. Their best version of themselves are
- 19:15Speaker 7: better than everyone else. But you also see the other
- 19:19Speaker 7: side of that. And sometimes it's awful. So to answer
- 19:23Speaker 7: your question, Ohio State's got three or four at home.
- 19:25Speaker 7: Their quarterback played good enough to win that game. They
- 19:28Speaker 7: need to elevate, and I'm sure Coach Day is diving
- 19:30Speaker 7: into that team right now saying that enough with the
- 19:32Speaker 7: stupid-ass penalties. They're good enough to win.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Coach, what would you make of the disparity in terms
- 19:39Speaker 1: of Indiana and Ohio State when you consider, I know
- 19:42Speaker 1: Ohio State's quarterback is out, when you consider Ohio State
- 19:45Speaker 1: beat Indiana at Indiana?
- 19:48Speaker 7: Yeah, the Indiana one, and I stay respectfully because I
- 19:50Speaker 7: think they're, you know, it's a great story of our lifetime.
- 19:53Speaker 7: They're not the number four team in the country. I
- 19:55Speaker 7: really don't, I don't see that. I see them as
- 19:58Speaker 7: a defending national champ that, and I've also been on
- 20:02Speaker 7: teams like that.
- 20:03Speaker 4: I mean, they've won two, three games they shouldn't have won.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Right.
- 20:07Speaker 7: We were at the Nebraska game and that game was...
- 20:09Speaker 7: game set match until the two passes to Marsh. They
- 20:14Speaker 7: did not play well at all. Their quarterback, he must
- 20:16Speaker 7: be banged up because he's really struggling. Obviously, they brought
- 20:19Speaker 7: in their backup. So, yeah, that's the one I– that
- 20:22Speaker 7: and UCLA. If you watch UCLA on film, I don't know.
- 20:26Speaker 7: Who's a better team?
- 20:27Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 20:29Speaker 4: I love UCLA, the way they run the football.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Coach, whenever we do these rankings, it really is– Always
- 20:36Speaker 3: in college football, it's always SEC versus Big Ten. Who's
- 20:40Speaker 3: the big dog? You're in a rare spot.
- 20:44Speaker 4: Here, Coach.
- 20:45Speaker 3: I mean, you kicked ass in both. You got natties
- 20:47Speaker 3: in both. You've won both. As we're all fighting it
- 20:51Speaker 3: out with our pitchforks, are you like a father just
- 20:54Speaker 3: watching your kids get after one another? How do you
- 20:57Speaker 3: interpret the Uber conference rivalry?
- 21:01Speaker 7: I love that conversation because for 10 years or longer,
- 21:06Speaker 7: Since 06. And I went from Florida, the meat grinder
- 21:11Speaker 7: of the SEC, to actually a conference that was just
- 21:13Speaker 7: mediocre at best. In 2012, the Big Ten wasn't even
- 21:18Speaker 7: the same ballpark as the SEC.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Wow.
- 21:21Speaker 4: But that changed.
- 21:22Speaker 7: And to give a lot of teams credit, they went
- 21:24Speaker 7: and got a couple of really good teams programs from
- 21:27Speaker 7: the West Coast. The investment in the stadiums is– I
- 21:32Speaker 7: don't think people talk about this enough. The stadiums used
- 21:35Speaker 7: to be below average. You go on those games. You know,
- 21:38Speaker 7: Shelly and I, my wife, we used to go on to,
- 21:41Speaker 7: you know, Mississippi State is like a down play. That's
- 21:44Speaker 7: an awful place to play. Then you got Alabama, Auburn, LSU,
- 21:48Speaker 7: and you can go down the row. Then in the
- 21:50Speaker 7: Big Ten, what places were hard to go play? Penn State,
- 21:55Speaker 7: Wisconsin a little bit.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Iowa's hard. But then that was that.
- 21:59Speaker 7: But you have to give credit where credit's due, and
- 22:01Speaker 7: the investment in the program's They caught and they passed
- 22:05Speaker 7: the SEC at the top of the conference, but also
- 22:10Speaker 7: last year, in my mind, because they beat in the
- 22:13Speaker 7: playoffs and the road games.
- 22:15Speaker 4: This year, I don't think it's close.
- 22:17Speaker 7: I think this year the SEC is a much better
- 22:21Speaker 7: conference than the Big Ten on videotape. When you watch
- 22:24Speaker 7: it as a professional who's done it forever, there's a
- 22:27Speaker 7: whole different level right now in the SEC.
- 22:29Speaker 5: T-Bob forgot your stop prior to Florida.
- 22:33Speaker 6: In Salt Lake with Utah, obviously the Holy.
- 22:37Speaker 5: War, a massive game out there.
- 22:39Speaker 6: Both teams ranked in the top 10 for the first
- 22:41Speaker 6: time ever. Morgan Scali doing an unbelievable job. That offense
- 22:44Speaker 6: is so dynamic. Do you think win or lose, both
- 22:50Speaker 6: of these teams are playoff teams, or does the game
- 22:54Speaker 6: here ultimately matter, you think, more to.
- 22:56Speaker 5: One of them?
- 22:57Speaker 4: I think so.
- 22:58Speaker 7: Utah's got a little grace period if they lose. I
- 23:01Speaker 7: think if BYU loses, there's on the outside looking in.
- 23:05Speaker 4: Bear, you've been there.
- 23:06Speaker 7: I don't know if the rest of your crew have
- 23:08Speaker 7: T-Bob been on there.
- 23:08Speaker 4: I have not, no. This is an incredible place to
- 23:12Speaker 4: go watch a game.
- 23:13Speaker 7: I would put it right up there with any place
- 23:15Speaker 7: I've ever– to this game, there's only– I think there's 60,000, 58,000.
- 23:19Speaker 7: It's more intimidating than 100,000. That crowd is going to
- 23:25Speaker 7: be out of their damn minds. And Morgan Scali, my
- 23:28Speaker 7: former player, I'm so proud of that guy. And Kalani Sataki.
- 23:32Speaker 7: These are two excellent football teams, excellent coaches in an environment.
- 23:36Speaker 7: This is so good for college football. I can't wait
- 23:39Speaker 7: to watch it.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Urban, just getting off the actual games for a second,
- 23:44Speaker 2: I am wondering, do you think Florida State in 2026,
- 23:47Speaker 2: where Indiana is the reigning national champion, you called it
- 23:50Speaker 2: the story of our lifetime. I'm not certain you're wrong,
- 23:52Speaker 2: by the way. But does Florida State still carry the
- 23:55Speaker 2: same cachet?
- 23:57Speaker 1: As it once did?
- 23:58Speaker 7: No. Right now, it all changed, but I saw their
- 24:04Speaker 7: president get up and sneak after they fired my friend.
- 24:07Speaker 7: I love Mike Norvell. He's become a good friend over
- 24:10Speaker 7: the years. But, I mean, it was time, and Mike
- 24:14Speaker 7: would be the first one to say, you know, those
- 24:16Speaker 7: kind of places are the win. But if you listen
- 24:19Speaker 7: to the president, his whole thing was, I'm not sure
- 24:22Speaker 7: how I'm going to handle the fiscal responsibility that's associated
- 24:26Speaker 7: with major college athlete he was talking about how does
- 24:29Speaker 7: he fund right women's sports how i'm watching oh my
- 24:32Speaker 7: god you know what you know if that's if that's
- 24:36Speaker 7: out there they'll have a very hard time getting a
- 24:39Speaker 7: coach to go there i mean i'm talking about a
- 24:42Speaker 7: right i'm wondering bear if they go to the signetti
- 24:46Speaker 7: you know uh signetti and a chesney route.
- 24:50Speaker 6: That's what i was gonna say yeah Like, you look at, like,
- 24:54Speaker 6: Jason Eck is a guy who has made chicken salad
- 24:57Speaker 6: out of chicken shit at a bunch of places, a
- 24:59Speaker 6: program builder with very few resources. He's got New Mexico
- 25:03Speaker 6: ranked for the first time ever. Like, if they were
- 25:05Speaker 6: to hire him, that would be a really, really good hire.
- 25:09Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 25:09Speaker 6: In that state, you live there. You've coached against him.
- 25:12Speaker 6: I went to Miami. I know the gravitas around that program. Like,
- 25:16Speaker 6: I don't know if they'd be happy with that.
- 25:18Speaker 3: Hire, though.
- 25:19Speaker 7: Yeah. I, you know, this is how old we are bears.
- 25:22Speaker 7: I'm I coached against Bobby Bowden five times. I mean, that,
- 25:28Speaker 7: that was awful to go in there and that chant.
- 25:31Speaker 7: And then sometimes I see pictures of 5,000 people in
- 25:34Speaker 7: the stadium.
- 25:34Speaker 4: I can't believe we're here, but.
- 25:36Speaker 7: I've heard for a good decade now that Florida state
- 25:40Speaker 7: has got really, really financial bootstraps on them. They, they
- 25:44Speaker 7: got some issues right there and that would scare the
- 25:46Speaker 7: hell out of any coach. Because at the end of
- 25:49Speaker 7: the day, can you get players at the end of
- 25:51Speaker 7: the day and hire a good staff? And it's never
- 25:54Speaker 7: been more important now with the money that's flowing.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to your point, maybe you go like
- 25:59Speaker 3: a dicker. I mean, Wake Forest doing more with less
- 26:02Speaker 3: than anybody right now.
- 26:03Speaker 4: But we'll have to wait and see. Excellent coach, yeah.
- 26:06Speaker 3: Coach Meyer, I got to give you credit because I
- 26:09Speaker 3: was lucky enough to get to play your Florida coach
- 26:12Speaker 3: teams a few times. You want to talk about places
- 26:14Speaker 3: to play.
- 26:16Speaker 5: The Swamp.
- 26:17Speaker 3: When Urban Meyer was the Florida head coach, was the
- 26:20Speaker 3: single most intimidating, wild environment I've ever been in my
- 26:25Speaker 3: entire life. It is a stadium, the away stadium that
- 26:27Speaker 3: I think about the most. And you are a legend
- 26:29Speaker 3: of the game. And do you ever stop? Because maybe
- 26:32Speaker 3: I'm wrong here. And you can tell me if I'm wrong.
- 26:35Speaker 3: But when I look and I see what modern offensive
- 26:39Speaker 3: football is and how much stuff is predicated off of
- 26:41Speaker 3: the zone read, right? Like I've always viewed you as
- 26:45Speaker 3: kind of the man who brought a lot of that
- 26:47Speaker 3: offensive philosophy to the fore. Do you ever look and
- 26:51Speaker 3: just be like, wow, man, look at, you know, look
- 26:53Speaker 3: at some of the impact that we had on this
- 26:55Speaker 3: game as a whole, as a lot of your theories
- 26:57Speaker 3: have sort of permeated throughout every level of football, even
- 27:01Speaker 3: up to the NFL, right? Like we see these things
- 27:02Speaker 3: that used to be only on Saturday. Now they're happening
- 27:04Speaker 3: on Sunday.
- 27:05Speaker 7: Dan Mullen was my graduate assistant at Notre Dame. We
- 27:11Speaker 7: were kind of in I-formation, and then we went and
- 27:14Speaker 7: visited Scott Linehan at Louisville, and that was one of
- 27:18Speaker 7: the game changers. And he looked at us one day,
- 27:20Speaker 7: and I said, how do you handle the safety blitz?
- 27:23Speaker 7: Because that was a problem. In the I-formation, how do
- 27:25Speaker 7: you handle safety blitzes? Because they're right there. He looked
- 27:28Speaker 7: at me and says, Coach, I haven't seen a safety
- 27:30Speaker 7: blitz in seven years. And I was like, me and
- 27:32Speaker 7: Dan looked at each.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Other like, what? We sat there in Louisville.
- 27:36Speaker 7: And we had to go buy like underwear and toothpaste
- 27:41Speaker 7: because we were going to be there for the day.
- 27:44Speaker 4: We stayed for three days. What? We wouldn't leave. We
- 27:47Speaker 4: just kept studying and studying.
- 27:50Speaker 7: And then I get hired at Bowling Green and we
- 27:53Speaker 7: took this idea and it was, that was one of
- 27:56Speaker 7: the coolest moments of my life. And then I, you know,
- 27:58Speaker 7: we hired a great staff, but Dan is a big
- 28:01Speaker 7: piece of that. And then Dan became my, Quarterback coach
- 28:04Speaker 7: of Bowling Green, we went to Utah and got this
- 28:06Speaker 7: Alex Smith kid, and that's when it really exploded. We
- 28:09Speaker 7: were doing stuff never had been done before.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Omar Jacobs at Bowling Green, too? Was it that offense
- 28:14Speaker 3: back in the day, or was that after?
- 28:15Speaker 7: He took over after I left. Josh Harris was my guy.
- 28:20Speaker 7: And he was a Heisman candidate. He was a former
- 28:22Speaker 7: running back, and we made him a quarterback. And Dan
- 28:24Speaker 7: Mullen is, of course, the respect I have for that guy.
- 28:28Speaker 7: He made Josh Harris a draft pick of the Steelers.
- 28:31Speaker 7: And a Heisman candidate at Bowling Green.
- 28:33Speaker 4: We were up to 16th in the country at one point.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Bowling Green.
- 28:36Speaker 6: And I can remember going to College Game Day for
- 28:40Speaker 6: a Bowling Green-Northern Illinois game in 2006, I believe it was.
- 28:44Speaker 6: Unbelievable weather. It was a great crowd there. Going to
- 28:49Speaker 6: give you some love here. Wilbur Marshall, Emmett Smith, Steve Spurrier,
- 28:53Speaker 6: Tim Tebow, Danny Werfel, Jack Youngblood, Urban Meyer, Florida. Ring
- 29:00Speaker 6: of Honor, going down there this weekend to be honored
- 29:03Speaker 6: and all of the honors and recognition and kudos that
- 29:08Speaker 6: they're going to give you. You absolutely deserve, because I
- 29:11Speaker 6: think there's a little bit of a misconception, I think,
- 29:14Speaker 6: about Florida. If you talk about Florida State, we'll have
- 29:17Speaker 6: they won outside of that. You and Spurrier, that's when
- 29:22Speaker 6: Florida won. And you really took that program over from
- 29:27Speaker 6: a little bit of a down period to One national championship.
- 29:30Speaker 6: So congratulations to you. Enjoy your weekend there. And you
- 29:34Speaker 6: deserve all of it.
- 29:35Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the coolest things there is my my
- 29:39Speaker 7: kids grew up there and they're all coming back. And
- 29:43Speaker 7: then I find out my daughter's bringing my two grandsons.
- 29:45Speaker 7: I get a little emotional thinking about it because she
- 29:48Speaker 7: said she wants, she wants my grandsons and they're nine
- 29:52Speaker 7: and six to witness that.
- 29:54Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, you know, that means the
- 29:57Speaker 4: world to me.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Special.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Yep.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Coach, we appreciate the time.
- 30:00Speaker 2: We know you have to run. On the way out here,
- 30:03Speaker 2: big noon kickoff. You guys go out for dinner. How
- 30:06Speaker 2: often does Bear try to pay for that dinner?
- 30:08Speaker 1: I mean....
- 30:12Speaker 4: About as often as I try to pay. I joke around.
- 30:15Speaker 7: I mean, the dinners that Fox put on Bear, I mean,
- 30:18Speaker 7: that's thousands of dollars. I always joke around, and I say,
- 30:21Speaker 7: let me help with that, and I hand him a 20.
- 30:23Speaker 4: Let me help with that. But, Bill, I'll tell you what.
- 30:27Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, to sit next to Bear and
- 30:29Speaker 7: watch him go after it, that's an impressive guy at
- 30:32Speaker 7: the dinner table.
- 30:35Speaker 5: I know how to order.
- 30:36Speaker 1: It's worth your $ 20. Yes, it's worth the price of admission. Urban,
- 30:41Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Congratulations.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Enjoy the weekend with friends and family. It's a big honor,
- 30:47Speaker 2: and we're happy for you, and we appreciate the time, man,
- 30:49Speaker 2: and have a good round today.
- 30:51Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. Love you, Bear. See you soon.
- 30:53Speaker 5: Appreciate you.
- 31:14Speaker 3: Welcome back to the College Football Show with Stu Godson. Fair, fair,
- 31:17Speaker 3: great job setting up Coach Meyer there. Absolute living legend.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Always love getting his insight, a man who dominated all
- 31:24Speaker 3: of college football. Let's look at some of the games
- 31:26Speaker 3: this weekend. And we're going to, this is going to
- 31:29Speaker 3: be a whistle-stop tour, guys. So buckle up.
- 31:32Speaker 5: Two-minute drill.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Because there's a lot to get to. I'm going to
- 31:34Speaker 3: go time slot by time slot here. Let's start at
- 31:37Speaker 3: 11 a.m. where you're going to be choosing between the
- 31:40Speaker 3: Holy War, the Bad Mormons versus the Good Mormons, and Texas-Mizzou.
- 31:46Speaker 3: A couple of two-loss SEC teams, a little pseudo-elimination game. Bear,
- 31:50Speaker 3: Holy War, do you like Utah to take advantage here
- 31:54Speaker 3: at home at Rice-Eccles?
- 31:55Speaker 5: I do.
- 31:56Speaker 6: I wish I had a better idea right now of
- 31:58Speaker 6: whether L.J. Martin was going to be playing for BYU.
- 32:01Speaker 6: I think they need him back. to help diversify that
- 32:04Speaker 6: offense just a little bit, because outside of Bear and
- 32:06Speaker 6: Glasgow right now, I really don't know what else they have.
- 32:10Speaker 6: Utah impressed the hell out of me last week, man.
- 32:13Speaker 6: They could have been a total dead look-ahead spot. They
- 32:16Speaker 6: kicked the shit out of Cincinnati, made all the stakes
- 32:20Speaker 6: in this game. They got one foot in the door
- 32:22Speaker 6: of the Big 12 championship game. The stuff that they
- 32:25Speaker 6: do on offense, kind of two quarterbacks in the field,
- 32:27Speaker 6: and just the way they run that, I.
- 32:31Speaker 6: This Utah team, I think, is a little bit better
- 32:34Speaker 6: than maybe some of their power rating type things may
- 32:40Speaker 6: signify that they are.
- 32:41Speaker 5: I think Utah gets a win here.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Guys, if BYU loses this game, are they done? Is
- 32:46Speaker 1: that it? Is BYU out of the playoff?
- 32:48Speaker 2: No.
- 32:49Speaker 6: No, why would they be? We'll have the same conversation.
- 32:52Speaker 6: Even more so now, if Notre Dame were to lose
- 32:54Speaker 6: to Miami and you potentially have a 10-2 BYU and
- 32:56Speaker 6: a 10-2 Notre Dame, that's going to be a conversation
- 33:00Speaker 6: to you, Bob.
- 33:00Speaker 5: Isn't it?
- 33:01Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it wouldn't be a conversation. BYU would
- 33:03Speaker 3: get in, right? Because what happened last year, it would
- 33:06Speaker 3: be the Notre Dame nightmare, 2.0. Only this time, it
- 33:10Speaker 3: wouldn't be the convicts sitting in packing, it'd be the Well,
- 33:13Speaker 3: not Catholics, Mormons.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Damn, I was on a roll.
- 33:16Speaker 5: I was so close.
- 33:19Speaker 3: And I tripped up at the finish line. Sneaky great
- 33:24Speaker 3: quarterback matchup here. Texas, Mizzou, Arch Manning, all the headlines
- 33:30Speaker 3: in the world, Austin Simmons. has had a very good year.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Ahmad Hardy is back, and Texas is injured to all hell.
- 33:39Speaker 3: This is a terrible spot for Texas. Cam Coleman's banked up.
- 33:42Speaker 3: Wingo's banked up. They're starting left tackle. That's going to
- 33:44Speaker 3: be a first-round pick. It's out for the entire year.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I think Hollywood, is Hollywood out? Yes. Anyway, the point is, yes,
- 33:55Speaker 3: this is a bad spot for Texas.
- 33:58Speaker 1: Bear out.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Will Drinkwits and company take advantage and handle Longhorns' third loss?
- 34:03Speaker 5: I think they will. I think they will.
- 34:05Speaker 6: And then that will make a true win-in-in, do-or-die game
- 34:10Speaker 6: next week for them in Baton Rouge against LSU. I
- 34:14Speaker 6: think Texas needs a split game. of the next two
- 34:17Speaker 6: couple of games to secure a playoff berth. If they're
- 34:21Speaker 6: 9-3 and they got the win over a real Ohio
- 34:23Speaker 6: State team and they got a win over either Missouri
- 34:26Speaker 6: or LSU, I think they're going to be, they got
- 34:29Speaker 6: the win over Tennessee, I think they're going to be okay.
- 34:33Speaker 6: That Missouri offense is really good. I know somehow, someway,
- 34:36Speaker 6: Ole Miss was able to to slow them down and
- 34:39Speaker 6: stop them. I wonder if the Texas front can do
- 34:42Speaker 6: the same thing that Echols and those guys did, but
- 34:46Speaker 6: this is kind of a, the Florida game was a
- 34:49Speaker 6: big game for Coach Drink and Mizzou. This is an
- 34:52Speaker 6: even bigger game. I think they get up. I think
- 34:55Speaker 6: they win this game.
- 34:56Speaker 2: I have no idea what to make of this game.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I just know I want Texas in the playoff. Do
- 35:00Speaker 2: you guys agree? I like big brands. I like them
- 35:03Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I don't want smaller brands getting in
- 35:06Speaker 2: the way of who wins a national championship.
- 35:09Speaker 1: I want Texas.
- 35:10Speaker 2: I want Arch Manning in the playoffs for two reasons. One,
- 35:13Speaker 2: can they make a run? And two, if they don't,
- 35:15Speaker 2: we can all start calling Sark and RJ choker.
- 35:19Speaker 3: I mean, I, I, I agree. I got to pinch
- 35:23Speaker 3: my nose and agree with you, unfortunately, Stu, because this
- 35:25Speaker 3: does kind of sit at odds with a lot of
- 35:27Speaker 3: what I've championed through the years, but the narratives are
- 35:30Speaker 3: what make the sport. A lot of times the narratives
- 35:33Speaker 3: are too juicy to ignore there. And, and they are
- 35:37Speaker 3: capable of making a run. Texas at full strength can
- 35:40Speaker 3: get up for big games. Like it's not the big
- 35:42Speaker 3: games against the top 10 teams where generally they have
- 35:45Speaker 3: struggled and fallen short. It's been the more surprise trappy
- 35:48Speaker 3: spots where they kind of unexpectedly let one go. So
- 35:51Speaker 3: they're very capable of making a run, especially if Colin
- 35:53Speaker 3: Simmons comes back and he's healthy. And maybe he has
- 35:55Speaker 3: like a Reuben Bain type performance in a run through
- 35:58Speaker 3: the playoffs. So, yeah, I'm kind of with you there.
- 36:01Speaker 6: You know who definitely wants Texas in the playoff is ESPN.
- 36:04Speaker 6: That's for sure. They want that rating. They want that
- 36:07Speaker 6: big national brand, too.
- 36:08Speaker 1: No, it's cool.
- 36:08Speaker 3: At least we don't have a system then where, like,
- 36:11Speaker 3: they'd have any control over that.
- 36:12Speaker 1: That'd be crazy. They don't.
- 36:15Speaker 5: They don't.
- 36:16Speaker 4: They are not in the room.
- 36:18Speaker 5: I get so.
- 36:19Speaker 6: Mad when people at Fox who I now work with, like,
- 36:21Speaker 6: think that ESPN controls the teams that get in the playoff.
- 36:25Speaker 6: They They have absolutely zero. You think they were real?
- 36:29Speaker 6: They control it all right. You've got Clemson and Cincinnati
- 36:34Speaker 6: and Alabama, these small.
- 36:35Speaker 5: Little TV markets.
- 36:37Speaker 6: They want Notre Dame, Texas, USC, Ohio State.
- 36:42Speaker 5: That's who they want, the big brands and the big markets,
- 36:44Speaker 5: just like you, Stu.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Alabama at five. All right, let's head to 2.30. Let's
- 36:50Speaker 3: head to 2.30 then. Oregon, Ohio State.
- 36:54Speaker 2: I love how you say 2.30 because it's Midwestern time,
- 36:57Speaker 2: but it's 3.30 Eastern time, yes.
- 36:59Speaker 3: No, no, let's be clear about this, Stu. It's not
- 37:01Speaker 3: Midwestern time.
- 37:02Speaker 1: This is Louisiana time.
- 37:04Speaker 3: It's Central time. It's God's time. Central time is objectively
- 37:08Speaker 3: the best time zone for a fan, okay?
- 37:10Speaker 1: I apologize.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Because you never run into games going, like, after midnight
- 37:14Speaker 3: or whatever, like you run into the East Coast. No, like...
- 37:17Speaker 3: in a.m. kickoff bullshit like out there on the west
- 37:19Speaker 3: coast central is God's God's time okay yes so the
- 37:23Speaker 3: afternoon slate yes we have Oregon Ohio State here mmm
- 37:29Speaker 3: I this would have been an easy Ohio State pick
- 37:32Speaker 3: for me were it not for Ryola and Oregon showing
- 37:34Speaker 3: some life last week I still think Ohio State has
- 37:37Speaker 3: something left to say this year again I think we've
- 37:40Speaker 3: thrown them out a little too soon I think Ohio
- 37:43Speaker 3: State's gonna win this game.
- 37:44Speaker 6: I agree I, I, the Oregon defensively, they played a
- 37:47Speaker 6: lot better on offensively. They woke up last week in
- 37:51Speaker 6: the second half against Northwestern. I think I read Davidson
- 37:54Speaker 6: is out, which was a big deal because he finally
- 37:56Speaker 6: started to run the ball a little bit better. I
- 37:59Speaker 6: think at home, uh, Fahey will be a little bit
- 38:02Speaker 6: more comfortable. Maybe Arthur Smith and Ryan day will be
- 38:05Speaker 6: willing to take a few more chances. and get Jeremiah
- 38:08Speaker 6: Smith and get him some shots down the field, which
- 38:10Speaker 6: they really.
- 38:10Speaker 5: Didn't do against USC. Hopefully good weather, that should help
- 38:15Speaker 5: as well. I'm with you.
- 38:17Speaker 6: I was a little surprised this number was seven, seven
- 38:20Speaker 6: and a half, which leads me to believe that the
- 38:23Speaker 6: odds makers are a little comfortable taking the Oregon money.
- 38:26Speaker 6: Because I think a lot of people feel the same way.
- 38:28Speaker 6: Like initial reaction is Ohio State, done.
- 38:32Speaker 5: Big favorite quarterback, no chance. I think you'll see.
- 38:35Speaker 6: A much different Ohio State team this week.
- 38:39Speaker 1: Stu, Stu, Stu. Look at this. Here we go. LSU, Alabama.
- 38:47Speaker 1: Big opportunity for you too, Bob. Big opportunity for LSU.
- 38:52Speaker 3: My Fighting Tigers, once again, chosen to be the people's hero. Here,
- 38:58Speaker 3: Alabama is being propped up by big football. Sitting there
- 39:03Speaker 3: at five, despite having lost two games recently. Their wins,
- 39:07Speaker 3: barely a memory, a shadow of the past. When college
- 39:12Speaker 3: football needs a good guy who's going to stand up
- 39:15Speaker 3: for everything that is right in this sport, when college
- 39:17Speaker 3: football needs a guy who is willing to stand against
- 39:20Speaker 3: the tide and say no more, we.
- 39:22Speaker 5: All know what that means.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Turn on the Lane Kiffin signal, okay? We'll do it, guys.
- 39:28Speaker 3: LSU will take care of business this week. We will
- 39:31Speaker 3: make sure that Big Bad Alabama is exposed as the
- 39:35Speaker 3: frauds that they are. LSU a death bell.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Yes, and if Alabama loses, they'll drop to number five.
- 39:40Speaker 1: I mean....
- 39:43Speaker 5: Maybe six. Maybe they'll move down to six. Just one spot. I.
- 39:50Speaker 6: I just, I don't know. This game has me really confused.
- 39:53Speaker 6: Like I don't want to offend T-Bob and pick and
- 39:55Speaker 6: pick Alabama. I don't want him getting mad at me.
- 39:57Speaker 6: Cause it's, it's clearly he gets, uh.
- 39:59Speaker 3: I'll treat you like you treat those Fox Friday night dinners, bear.
- 40:02Speaker 4: I'll eat your ass up.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Watch out.
- 40:05Speaker 5: Appetizer is galore. Beautiful. Eileen LSU.
- 40:11Speaker 6: I think their defense will give, uh, Alabama the similar
- 40:15Speaker 6: problems that they had. I think it's a really good
- 40:17Speaker 6: defense of Tennessee. Uh, Keelan Russell on the road. Yeah,
- 40:20Speaker 6: they were great in the second half against Kentucky. A
- 40:22Speaker 6: little bit of a different spot here. Couldn't get it
- 40:25Speaker 6: done against the Vols. These are the games why Lane
- 40:29Speaker 6: Kiffin left Ole Miss to go to LSU. This is
- 40:32Speaker 6: why LSU brought him there. I don't want to say
- 40:37Speaker 6: it's a must-win for LSU, but it's a near must-win.
- 40:41Speaker 6: They're getting healthier. Is Witt coming back this week, or
- 40:44Speaker 6: is he still a week or two away?
- 40:46Speaker 3: Uh, I will have to double check. I think he's
- 40:48Speaker 3: still a week.
- 40:49Speaker 6: He's a little, I think he's like a week or
- 40:51Speaker 6: so away, but they're like, that's why LSU in terms
- 40:54Speaker 6: of a long play is, I think a smart play.
- 40:58Speaker 6: I still think without him, I think that defense, if
- 41:01Speaker 6: you look at what nationally, they're like second in the
- 41:04Speaker 6: country in terms of like defensive efficiency. And I think
- 41:07Speaker 6: that they, uh, I think they'll get the job done.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Stu.
- 41:12Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin, good.
- 41:14Speaker 1: Guy, right? Great guy. I love him. He's the best.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Listen, he has to win this game, LSU, because they
- 41:20Speaker 2: have Texas coming up after this. The schedule is very
- 41:23Speaker 2: difficult the rest of the way for LSU. I would
- 41:26Speaker 2: say all of these games for LSU. or must-win games,
- 41:29Speaker 2: but they do have an opportunity here, and Lane Kiffin
- 41:32Speaker 2: has an opportunity to justify and show everyone this is
- 41:35Speaker 2: why I went to LSU. I'm a great coach, and
- 41:38Speaker 2: I can take this team in my first season, even
- 41:39Speaker 2: with two losses, get past Alabama, get past Texas the
- 41:43Speaker 2: next week.
- 41:44Speaker 1: I think it's Tennessee after that.
- 41:46Speaker 2: What an opportunity for LSU and Lane Kiffin to go
- 41:49Speaker 2: on a run here and go into the playoffs as
- 41:52Speaker 2: one of the hottest teams in college football.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, you win two of those three,
- 41:56Speaker 3: maybe they're one of the three lost teams. Totally, absolutely
- 42:00Speaker 3: would be. Help me out here, Bear. Kentucky, Tennessee. Kentucky,
- 42:05Speaker 3: top ten in the country. They've been great this year. Alabama,
- 42:08Speaker 3: the only blemish. Going to Knoxville, the rare mid-kickoff here, right?
- 42:14Speaker 3: It's going to be in between a lot of the games,
- 42:15Speaker 3: 6-15 Eastern time here. Vegas, not liking Will Stein and
- 42:20Speaker 3: the Cats here.
- 42:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're kind of living on borrowed time.
- 42:24Speaker 5: Don't you?
- 42:26Speaker 6: I mean, you got the two 35-34 two-point conversion wins.
- 42:31Speaker 6: Those plays don't go their way.
- 42:33Speaker 5: They're losses. Like, I don't know.
- 42:36Speaker 6: I think that Tennessee defense is really good. I think, obviously,
- 42:40Speaker 6: we talk about Notre Dame, like, being slighted and feeling
- 42:42Speaker 6: upset about where they're ranked. Tennessee, where they're ranked compared
- 42:46Speaker 6: to Alabama, I'm sure that's going to be a– a
- 42:49Speaker 6: talking point within that program, and Josh Heifel, I'm sure,
- 42:52Speaker 6: will be wound up. I'm not sure how many points
- 42:55Speaker 6: Kentucky is going to be able to go on the
- 42:56Speaker 6: road here. If you look at Kentucky in terms of
- 43:00Speaker 6: the football-type numbers, where they are in terms of efficiencies,
- 43:04Speaker 6: I think they're outside the top 20, both offense and defense.
- 43:07Speaker 6: Their computer power ratings are not in line with what
- 43:11Speaker 6: their college football player ranking is. It's been a great story.
- 43:15Speaker 6: The fact that Kentucky is ranked sixth in the first
- 43:17Speaker 6: college football playoff ranking, and we're talking about them as
- 43:19Speaker 6: a playoff team, is great for the long-term health of
- 43:22Speaker 6: Wolfstein and that program. I think this might be a
- 43:25Speaker 6: little too much too soon.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Because Kentucky is Kentucky and they're new to the game, right?
- 43:30Speaker 2: Do they have the shortest leash of the SEC teams?
- 43:32Speaker 2: Meaning they're not getting in with three losses, right? There's
- 43:35Speaker 2: no way, Kentucky.
- 43:36Speaker 7: No.
- 43:37Speaker 1: But they can get in with.
- 43:38Speaker 5: A lot of wins.
- 43:38Speaker 3: I don't think they would have the wins of the
- 43:40Speaker 3: others if they were to get in, if they had
- 43:42Speaker 3: three losses.
- 43:42Speaker 1: But if it's two losses, Kentucky still has a chance
- 43:45Speaker 1: to get in, obviously, right?
- 43:46Speaker 5: Yes, I agree with that. So, yes.
- 43:47Speaker 6: Especially with the win over LSU. I talk about their
- 43:51Speaker 6: wins in their resume like it's shit. I mean, South
- 43:54Speaker 6: Carolina's age.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Well, you're right.
- 43:56Speaker 5: South Carolina, LSU, both ranked.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 43:58Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 43:59Speaker 3: So, so Vegas not buying the Kentucky Hypel. That's Josh
- 44:03Speaker 3: Hypel joke. All right.
- 44:07Speaker 4: Fine.
- 44:07Speaker 3: Let's get to the night slate here. We'll get to
- 44:08Speaker 3: the big one a minute. First, real quick here, Georgia
- 44:10Speaker 3: Ole Miss revenge game for Georgia here. You look what
- 44:14Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss did to them last year in that playoff. Hell,
- 44:17Speaker 3: if you look at Trinidad Chambliss, both games, they played
- 44:20Speaker 3: Georgia last year. Like I know they lost in Athens, but,
- 44:22Speaker 3: He was absolutely perfect through three quarters. They only got
- 44:25Speaker 3: stopped twice. It was just the only gap that Georgia
- 44:29Speaker 3: needed to put them away. This game is going to
- 44:32Speaker 3: be in Oxford, which makes things a bit more interesting.
- 44:35Speaker 3: That said, I think this is a more explosive Georgia team.
- 44:39Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a back-and-forth affair,
- 44:42Speaker 3: but I think this Georgia team is actually going to
- 44:44Speaker 3: go into Oxford and handle business against the Rebels. No
- 44:47Speaker 3: Kiwan Lacy is huge for me. Hard for me to
- 44:49Speaker 3: overlook that. It is.
- 44:51Speaker 5: I'm with you. I like the dogs here.
- 44:53Speaker 6: I think they're better this year, I think, at linebacker,
- 44:57Speaker 6: which I think will help take away some of the
- 45:00Speaker 6: passes and some of the danger of Trinidad Shambles, even
- 45:02Speaker 6: though that guy getting points scares the absolute living daylights
- 45:06Speaker 6: out of me. But I do think Georgia will be
- 45:09Speaker 6: able to control a little bit more of that line
- 45:11Speaker 6: of scrimmage like some other teams haven't been able to
- 45:13Speaker 6: do against Ole Miss. I think they go into Oxford,
- 45:16Speaker 6: and I would lay the three and a half.
- 45:18Speaker 4: Here as well.
- 45:19Speaker 3: And here we go, Bear. Your Miami Hurricanes.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Here it is, baby.
- 45:26Speaker 3: Number one. Y'all been flirting. Y'all been flirting with death.
- 45:31Speaker 3: You said not today. Will it be Saturday night, though, Bear?
- 45:38Speaker 6: The game does worry me. I mean, their defense has
- 45:40Speaker 6: to be a hell of a lot better than what
- 45:42Speaker 6: it's been. Does Notre Dame have the threats at tight end?
- 45:47Speaker 6: and wide receiver that North Carolina does, did. Do they
- 45:51Speaker 6: have the scheme to do the same thing?
- 45:53Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 45:54Speaker 6: I am not doubting and questioning whether Miami is going
- 45:58Speaker 6: to show up here and be prepared for a big game.
- 46:00Speaker 6: I just think the stakes of the game for Notre Dame.
- 46:04Speaker 5: I hate falling on the crutch of like, oh, it's
- 46:06Speaker 5: a must win. So they're good.
- 46:07Speaker 6: They're going to win. But, but, but I do think
- 46:09Speaker 6: Notre Dame comes out and plays their best game of
- 46:11Speaker 6: the year. I would absolutely take Miami plus the five
- 46:14Speaker 6: and a half or six points. Cause I do think
- 46:16Speaker 6: it will be a close game, but, but I do,
- 46:19Speaker 6: but I do think in the end, I do think
- 46:22Speaker 6: Notre Dame gets a close win. And then we, we
- 46:24Speaker 6: wind up potentially with no, no, no, no undefeated teams
- 46:28Speaker 6: and whatever else in Notre Dame answers. A lot of
- 46:30Speaker 6: the questions they get that big marquee win. over a
- 46:34Speaker 6: uh team the regular season.
- 46:37Speaker 3: Uh stew you can answer this as well but what
- 46:38Speaker 3: did y'all make of bill belichick's comments after the game
- 46:44Speaker 3: that basically miami hadn't changed anything up defensively and that
- 46:48Speaker 3: petrino and company were able to identify some things on
- 46:51Speaker 3: tape that they felt like they could really exploit i
- 46:54Speaker 3: would say is that at all concerning Belichick lost.
- 46:57Speaker 2: The game I don't want to hear from him I
- 46:59Speaker 2: mean seriously I don't care what he figured out he
- 47:02Speaker 2: didn't figure out how to win that's what he didn't
- 47:03Speaker 2: figure out.
- 47:04Speaker 3: I am so jealous of you, Stu, to live in
- 47:07Speaker 3: such a wonderfully absolute world, just binary. It's all ones
- 47:13Speaker 3: and zeros and blacks and whites.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Let's go.
- 47:16Speaker 2: But I do think there is something to what Bear
- 47:18Speaker 2: is saying. I've said it the entire season. These games,
- 47:21Speaker 2: when a team has to win, they know they have
- 47:23Speaker 2: to win. The game is more important to Notre Dame
- 47:25Speaker 2: than it is to Miami. Miami is going to get in,
- 47:28Speaker 2: win or lose on Saturday night. And I do think
- 47:32Speaker 2: from a psychological standpoint, a mentality standpoint, there is something
- 47:36Speaker 2: to be said for the team that we know is
- 47:38Speaker 2: very good and very talented in Notre.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Dame having to win a game against Miami at home.
- 47:44Speaker 6: T-Bob, have you ever been in a position as a
- 47:48Speaker 6: player or the other side of the ball on your
- 47:51Speaker 6: team where you guys just didn't show something and you
- 47:56Speaker 6: held it out? for a specific point in the season,
- 47:58Speaker 6: knowing that you could get by to that point. And
- 48:02Speaker 6: I asked that because I wonder if there is something
- 48:05Speaker 6: maybe that Corey Heatherman and the Miami defense hasn't shown
- 48:09Speaker 6: that they weren't willing to give up and put on tape. Like,
- 48:13Speaker 6: is that a reasonable explanation thought? Do we think there's
- 48:17Speaker 6: something to that?
- 48:18Speaker 3: Yeah, you better hope there is, huh? No, no, no.
- 48:25Speaker 5: We've had....
- 48:27Speaker 3: We've had plays like singular plays and certainly maybe like
- 48:36Speaker 3: some packages, but nothing too, too drastic. Like probably the
- 48:40Speaker 3: best example that I have, like, so back in the
- 48:42Speaker 3: day on short yardage, right. We would always run into
- 48:46Speaker 3: the ball, quick snack, QB sneak, right. But throughout the year,
- 48:50Speaker 3: we practiced a play where the tight end does a
- 48:52Speaker 3: reverse off of it. We saved it for Alabama, or
- 48:56Speaker 3: we saved it for the time was right. Ends up,
- 48:57Speaker 3: time was right, against Alabama at home. Play hits, touchdown
- 49:02Speaker 3: on a fourth and one, ends up winning us the game.
- 49:04Speaker 3: So you have moments like that. But then again, the
- 49:08Speaker 3: game has changed so much since I played. It's been
- 49:11Speaker 3: 15 years, Bear. And a constant theme we've talked about
- 49:13Speaker 3: now is becoming more NFL, like game plans matter more.
- 49:16Speaker 3: I don't know if it's this year, but as college
- 49:19Speaker 3: football evolves I think you're going to see more game
- 49:22Speaker 3: plan dependent like week to week changes like you're kind
- 49:25Speaker 3: of alluding to where you could see a team do
- 49:27Speaker 3: something that's like whoa y'all just installed that this week
- 49:31Speaker 3: or are y'all been holding it back all right all
- 49:33Speaker 3: right uh we gotta go do we want to real
- 49:35Speaker 3: quick do bear.
- 49:37Speaker 6: Metal metal stands easy we we could do i already
- 49:39Speaker 6: hit on two of the games bronze.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Utah yeah silver georgia yeah.
- 49:44Speaker 6: Gold i love syracuse this week getting points at home
- 49:48Speaker 6: uh again clemson calver also is a stud wide receiver
- 49:51Speaker 6: they've been a much different offense since angelli's back and
- 49:54Speaker 6: i clemson should not be favored on the road there
- 49:58Speaker 6: you go It's.
- 49:59Speaker 3: A college football show with Stu Gatz and the Bear.
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- 50:06Speaker 3: our universe. And enjoy this Saturday, guys. Shout out to
- 50:08Speaker 3: Coach Urban Meyer. Thank you for coming on. And we'll
- 50:10Speaker 3: see you next episode.
- 50:11Speaker 2: All right, T-Bob, you'll hate this, but we love your misery.
- 50:14Speaker 2: So let's go. We're rooting for LSU to lose.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Okay, see you.
- 50:18Speaker 5: Speak for yourself.
- 50:20Speaker 3: How the fuck are you going to sign a show
- 50:22Speaker 3: off like that?
- 50:22Speaker 5: I called you a salt and pepper prince.
- 50:25Speaker 3: I said I would kiss you on the mouth if
- 50:27Speaker 3: I was in the same room with you, and you
- 50:29Speaker 3: pulled this shit on the way out?
- 50:31Speaker 1: Roll tide. 8-2, Stew A.
- 50:34Speaker 3: Unbelievable.