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Hour One | Football Friday from Rouses, LSU vs. Clemson & Eligibility Ruling · Off The Bench

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: The bench with jacob hester and matt flynn let's go
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  Speaker 1: baby let's go from a championship backfield to your morning
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  Speaker 1: drive hands.
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  Speaker 2: To hester and hester.
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  Speaker 1: Got it five out of five you're locked in to
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  Speaker 1: off the bench live from the raising cane studio here's
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  Speaker 1: jacob hester and.
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  Speaker 3: Matt flynn.
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  Speaker 4: Yo and welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is otb live on location at rouse's burbank and
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  Speaker 3: lee it is the first football friday of the year
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  Speaker 3: that's right we made it we're here no more waiting
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  Speaker 3: no more yearning for football football season is upon us
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  Speaker 3: and if you're Listen or watch the Lane Kiffin show
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  Speaker 3: last night. If you've driven anywhere around Baton Rouge over
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of days, not just today, you are
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: feeling game day. It is all over campus. It is
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  Speaker 3: all over the city. And we are finally here back
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  Speaker 3: at Rouse's. So to me, that makes it officially official.
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  Speaker 3: It is football at the grocery store, being here at
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  Speaker 3: the grocery store. Makes it official. It is football season because, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know what? This is where we spend every Friday
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  Speaker 3: during the football season. So how could it not feel official, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Amen to that. It is finally upon us. There was
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  Speaker 4: college football last night. So everything kind of felt back
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  Speaker 4: to normal. Everything felt right with the world. I walked
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: in this morning. Gave a hat tip, nodded to my
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  Speaker 4: guy making the sushi back there. Love that guy. He
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  Speaker 4: is working hard at work. Thank you to Rouse's for
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  Speaker 4: having us every single Friday. All season long. Things haven't
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  Speaker 4: changed much around here. It's still awesome. Walk in, smell
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  Speaker 4: the smells, feel the feels. About 30 people stocking the shelves,
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: getting everything ready. What?
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  Speaker 3: It's an interesting color wheel you've got there in front
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  Speaker 3: of you of my high.
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  Speaker 4: Well, guess what? It's the only thing left. I think
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather display one or the other. Do you like this? Nope.
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  Speaker 4: That makes it worse. Okay. How about this?
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  Speaker 3: And if you're not, nope. If you're not watching this
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube, because, well, I think the Internet's working today.
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  Speaker 3: He has Florida Gator colored my high in front of him.
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  Speaker 3: Two orange and two blue. That's interesting. That's a choice.
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  Speaker 4: All right. This is not Florida week, pal. It's always
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  Speaker 4: Florida Week. I could have gone with just blue. I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't going to go with just orange because that's Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: Go with the blue.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Well, we have blue every day. Now we have
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  Speaker 4: the opportunity to go with a different color. I was
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  Speaker 4: going to go with all the colors, but it is
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  Speaker 4: so popular around here. It wasn't on the shelves. Hey, Moose. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, Moose, it's fine.
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  Speaker 4: They can see you.
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  Speaker 3: You're not hidden. Moose, this is a different show. We
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  Speaker 3: like to highlight stuff like that. Moose had an army
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  Speaker 3: crawl right there trying to plug something in.
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  Speaker 4: You can see the blue. The ground on the video. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 4: you can't. Oh, look. Well done. Well done, Moose. All right, so.
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  Speaker 4: That's my guy right there. That's my guy making that
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  Speaker 4: sushi back there. At 7.04 a.m. 7.04 a.m. Got to
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  Speaker 4: get it ready. Got to get it tight.
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  Speaker 3: So, obviously, we'll get into what happened in the courtroom yesterday. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in OTB fashion, we do like to have
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  Speaker 3: a little fun. Play a little catch up here in
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  Speaker 3: the opening segment. So Matthew in the open there, I
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it does feel like, you know, game time, game week,
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  Speaker 3: whatever game day around town. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel that?
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  Speaker 3: Cause yesterday I was, I was on campus yesterday. So
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  Speaker 3: I did the hay fighting podcast where they got Harrison yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Harrison play the highlights and it was a zoo. I
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  Speaker 3: mean an absolute zoo. I had a, like a place
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  Speaker 3: to park. I had a place to, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: tag to get into the gate, and it still took
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  Speaker 3: me forever just finding ways to get around all the humans.
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  Speaker 4: On campus? Yes. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: It had like a Friday evening, because you used to
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  Speaker 3: go over there on Friday evening, you get the TV
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  Speaker 3: truck setting up, you got a lot of action going on.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like that yesterday around... It's like 1040. I
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  Speaker 3: went straight from the studio to the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I love it, and I miss going over there. I
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  Speaker 4: miss getting that feeling because, no, I haven't got that feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel the football in the air just yet.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard for me to feel football in the air
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  Speaker 4: when it's still hot and humid. It's got to get
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  Speaker 4: a little crispy out there, a little crisp.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting because most of our time playing football here
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  Speaker 3: was hot. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, I hated it for sure. It doesn't have to
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  Speaker 4: be chilly. I just wanted not to be 98. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So November. No, no. But, you know, October. Anyway, I digress. No,
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  Speaker 4: I just hadn't been over there. It's been like yesterday
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  Speaker 4: straight from the studio. Had to get straight to the office.
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  Speaker 4: Was really busy at the office. Then I go straight
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  Speaker 4: to the house because. We had an excavator at our
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  Speaker 4: house yesterday, so had to go over there for a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. No, hadn't felt the football feeling just yet
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  Speaker 4: until yesterday evening when I got to watch Colorado-Georgia Tech play,
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  Speaker 4: which objectively was awful football. Yeah. But it was fun
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  Speaker 4: to watch football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it was. It came down to the end. Colorado
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  Speaker 4: wins it at the end. They drive. Their young quarterback
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  Speaker 4: does a touchdown pass. But just because, like, a game finishes,
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  Speaker 4: it's a close game, doesn't mean it's a good football.
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  Speaker 4: It was a very poorly played football game from both sides.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was not great. Should I go in Moscona's show
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  Speaker 3: and paste a link to this show again? Yeah. He's
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  Speaker 3: on a show called.
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  Speaker 4: It'll probably last a long time on the chat.
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  Speaker 3: He's on a show called Overtime with Matt Moscona. Should
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  Speaker 3: I go in there and post a link to this
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  Speaker 3: show again? You think he'll delete it again?
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  Speaker 4: In 10 seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's overtime? I thought it was morning scone. Overtime's
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  Speaker 3: after morning scone?
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  Speaker 4: Well, this one's from 7 to 8.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was 8 to 9, probably.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, just a little overtime.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. All right. Or pregame. I'm just curious. Yesterday I
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  Speaker 4: put the link to this show and it got deleted
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  Speaker 4: real quick. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe I'd do it again. See if it
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  Speaker 3: was just an accident.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Joey in the chat said, define football weather. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we got into that pretty... Pretty argumentative last year. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: we did. We did.
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  Speaker 3: Look, you played a different place than I did in
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  Speaker 3: your professional career.
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  Speaker 4: Football weather to you is 105 with a billion percent humidity? No,
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  Speaker 4: it's just hot and humid.
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  Speaker 3: It's where we live. It's what we're forged in. It's
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  Speaker 3: what we're calloused in. It's what I remember the suck being,
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  Speaker 3: having to figure out how to be good at football
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  Speaker 3: in those conditions. Just what you know.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Hell yeah, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Look, not everybody likes to wear a mock turtleneck, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when they're playing football, okay?
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  Speaker 4: That's what you remember the suck being in. But I
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  Speaker 4: remember just, you know, wanting to have fun playing football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We got a different view, I guess. Yeah. It's all right.
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  Speaker 4: It's all good. Still like you. Eventually, we'll get LSU's roster.
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  Speaker 4: We hadn't got it yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a little bit of a deadline
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  Speaker 3: on who's going to be added to that roster.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I thought that was all finalized now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, unless you've been living under a rock, so we
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  Speaker 3: all know what's going on yesterday, might as well go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and get into it a bit here. So after
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  Speaker 3: all the back and forth this week, yesterday we finally
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  Speaker 3: got an actual ruling, and for now, for now, LSU
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  Speaker 3: got the result it wanted. The judge granted a preliminary injunction,
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  Speaker 3: which means the SEC cannot enforce its rule against these
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  Speaker 3: players while the legal fight continues, and that's really the
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  Speaker 3: key here. This wasn't some sweeping final decision on the
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  Speaker 3: future of college athletics. It was a ruling on what
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  Speaker 3: happens right now while the bigger case plays out. So
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  Speaker 3: the conversation this morning isn't really, you know, can NFL
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  Speaker 3: players come back to college now? It's did the SEC
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  Speaker 3: draw a line that actually has the legal authority to draw?
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  Speaker 3: Because yesterday, at least on a temporary basis, a judge said, no.
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  Speaker 4: You don't. Yep, sure did.
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  Speaker 3: Did you expect anything different? different to be the outcome there.
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  Speaker 5: The judge from Baton Rouge yeah no of course not
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  Speaker 5: there was a there now there was a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people nationally that actually did think that it was going
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  Speaker 5: to be a different outcome now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah they did but then after the fact it was
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  Speaker 4: like most of the national media was like obviously this
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  Speaker 4: is happening because it's 10 minutes from Tiger Stadium that
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  Speaker 4: it's happening and I'm not saying that's the reason it
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  Speaker 4: happened it just You know, it didn't hurt, certainly. But beforehand,
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  Speaker 4: you were right. They thought, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people that thought it would go the other way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But then afterwards, it was like the complete, like, heel turn.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, of course it happened. It was in
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  Speaker 4: Baton Rouge. Well, everybody's got to be right. Yeah, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Just like us on this show.
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  Speaker 3: No, that is definitely not us. And we definitely actually
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  Speaker 3: admit when we were wrong, we raised our hand and
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  Speaker 3: held ourselves accountable for that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think we did that, like, what, back in
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  Speaker 4: January we were wrong once? No, yesterday. We said something
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  Speaker 4: yesterday that was definitely wrong.
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  Speaker 3: So, and now here we are. Okay, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Matt, what about you? Did it play out any different
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  Speaker 4: than you thought?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you.
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  Speaker 4: Got the federal... Again, this... You got the zoo and
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  Speaker 4: LSU federally, and you win the local case.
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  Speaker 3: This does not have, like for me, like looking at
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  Speaker 3: big picture.
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  Speaker 3: When's the last time that the NCAA or any of
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  Speaker 3: its conferences has won a court case against a student athlete?
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  Speaker 4: We can't remember, really. I don't know that guy.
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  Speaker 3: I take it back. That's true.
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  Speaker 4: A plane ticket. $ 300 plane ticket they paid back.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Trinidad Chambliss lost like four times, but he just
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  Speaker 3: kept appealing, and then boom, here he is.
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  Speaker 4: He got him.
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  Speaker 3: Because even like Brendan Soares would be like, man, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't lose in court. the big 12 just kind of
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: bullied Texas tech into not having him play. So like,
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  Speaker 3: even that wasn't like a loss. He, they just decided
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  Speaker 3: the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. So for like, for
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  Speaker 3: those reasons, who's to say like they're, they're ever going
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  Speaker 3: to win anything again, because you're just going to keep
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  Speaker 3: going to, to different courtrooms. And just like in Ole
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  Speaker 3: Miss and Mississippi's situation with Trinidad Chandler, you know, happens
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  Speaker 3: everywhere across the country.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Judge. is going to have a tie to that school. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the, okay, there's a lot of positive that
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of LSU fans are taking away
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  Speaker 4: from the ruling yesterday. It's we won, right? It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter what it is. As long as LSU wins, we're happy, right? Now,
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  Speaker 4: did the ruling yesterday make LSU instantly become more of
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  Speaker 4: a national championship contender? No, I don't think so. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, I guess this fight's about a principle situation,
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  Speaker 4: but like what principle are, you know, I guess we,
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  Speaker 4: the more cases that are won and the less power
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  Speaker 4: that the quote unquote power to be.
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  Speaker 3: Has, the.
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  Speaker 4: Line is drawn, the line is more blurrier than ever
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  Speaker 4: always about where the finish is on this thing. Um,
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  Speaker 4: every time, and you might go into this one case
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  Speaker 4: thinking this is the one thing that I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: fight about this one, 2022 class. Um, this is a
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  Speaker 4: one-time deal. This will never happen again. After this, we're
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  Speaker 4: never going to think about NFL players again at all. Um,
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  Speaker 4: but then next year comes around and you're like, Hmm,
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  Speaker 4: my wide receiver room's a little thin. So, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: not talking about this at LSU, but like, this would
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  Speaker 4: be other people or, or This could be other colleges
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  Speaker 4: and other situations that have like a one-off situation and
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  Speaker 4: they decide to, hey, how far does this get pushed
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  Speaker 4: down the road? How far do these rules get stretched
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  Speaker 4: and pushed? Like where is the breaking point to where
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  Speaker 4: we just say, and we've been talking about it a
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  Speaker 4: long time, they just say, all right, NCAA, we're good.
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  Speaker 4: Peace out. Deuces. Like we're going to go start our
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  Speaker 4: own thing. When does that start to become a more
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  Speaker 4: real conversation? And maybe it already is a real conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Just everything like this that happens makes it more and
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  Speaker 4: more real or gets more and more people behind it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just don't know. Like, LSU won
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  Speaker 4: the battle yesterday. It'll still, we'll still have to figure
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  Speaker 4: out who wins the war. Now, part of this.
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  Speaker 3: And this is for LSU specifically. The important part is
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  Speaker 3: LSU is protected by the injunction because of the named
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  Speaker 3: defendants in the case, including the SEC. So the conference
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  Speaker 3: cannot simply turn around and punish LSU for rostering these
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  Speaker 3: players while this order is in effect. That's significant when
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  Speaker 3: for the players and for LSU in the short term.
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  Speaker 3: But again, this is a preliminary injunction. It's not the
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  Speaker 3: final word on whether former players, professional players can participate
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  Speaker 3: Permanently returned to college athletics. So yesterday answered the immediate question,
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  Speaker 3: can these guys be rostered right now, which is yes.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the bigger question is whether the SEC and
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  Speaker 3: the NCAA ultimately have the authority to stop this. And
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  Speaker 3: that is still very much in the air.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how federal courts and state
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  Speaker 4: courts operate. Yeah, because you joined the show to talk
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  Speaker 4: about football. Yeah, not like their legality. You know, there's
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of opinions out there in all this. I
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  Speaker 4: think the you know, I was, I'm going to give
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  Speaker 4: a lot of credit to Scott Van Pelt last night.
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  Speaker 4: I heard this. I was like, oh, that's a really
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  Speaker 4: good quote. And he quoted the great Jeff Goldblum from
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  Speaker 4: Jurassic Park when he said, yeah, but your scientists were
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  Speaker 4: so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't
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  Speaker 4: stop to think about if they should. And I think
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: lane and a staff they wanted these players because it
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  Speaker 4: fit a need for them and improve their team even
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  Speaker 4: if it's slightly everybody's looking for that slight that little
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  Speaker 4: edge that could get them over.
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  Speaker 3: The hump they don't call it i mean i'm not
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  Speaker 3: trying to be funny they don't call it a game
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  Speaker 3: of inches for nothing well.
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  Speaker 4: For sure and yeah i think getting an interior defensive
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  Speaker 4: lineman and a second or third tied in that has
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  Speaker 4: experience i think that does improve your team how much
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  Speaker 4: i don't know um And there is something that they
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  Speaker 4: thought that can be exploited within the rules and within
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  Speaker 4: the governing body of college football. And the job here
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  Speaker 4: is to win. And I get that. And I hope
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  Speaker 4: that LSU wins every game by 50. But what kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: of impact this has for the future, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody knows. I don't think it can be positive, though.
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  Speaker 4: But it's positive for right now, so go Tigers.
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  Speaker 1: Boop.
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  Speaker 3: I do, like, one of the things that I do
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  Speaker 3: find funny, and this is on both sides, is everyone
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  Speaker 3: now trying to define, like, what a pro player is
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  Speaker 3: and which camp they went to and what contract they
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  Speaker 3: did or did not sign, how much they got in
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: a signing bonus.
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  Speaker 4: That's so dumb.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of people, like, you know, Texas has
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  Speaker 3: a player that went to two different minicamps, but then
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  Speaker 3: Steve Sarkeesian is up on there on the podium on
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  Speaker 3: the high horse trying to make, you know, pretty much
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  Speaker 3: calling it despicable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah i'm reading all these people trying to define all
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: this stuff and i feel like i'm sitting there taking
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: crazy pills like are we serious right now it's ridiculous
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: argument and i hate it and then you know they
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: who's the what's the guy in alabama betty aka yeah
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  Speaker 4: the basketball player yeah people are like talking about that
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  Speaker 4: and well if they didn't do it that why would
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: they do it now well because it's basketball no one
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  Speaker 4: cares Like, don't mess with football. Like, that was the
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: one thing. I think that's why people get up in
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: arms about it, because it's football. Like, you can do
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  Speaker 4: it in any other sport, get away with it for
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: a little bit, but they don't like you messing with football. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that is a problem that I have.
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  Speaker 3: There's no uniformity to anything, to anything, to any school,
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  Speaker 3: to any conference, to any, like, everything's different. Nothing plays
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  Speaker 3: out the same. There's a governing body that doesn't govern.
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  Speaker 3: That bothers me too. There's people that make a lot
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: of money at the NCAA office that they don't do anything.
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  Speaker 4: But in fairness, I feel like they're trying to govern. No, no, no.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: They're trying now. They're reacting to what they didn't do
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: for decades. That's the problem. Now they're trying to react.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They're trying to do everything all at once. It's like, hey,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: imagine if you just little by little got to a
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: point where players were compensated and whatever. But you were
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: so against everything and the movement of going in a
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: direction where name, image, and likeness and all those things,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: whatever it might be. You were so against all of
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: that in progressing the game that it all hit you
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: in the face at once. And then you got knocked out.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: And now you're trying to get back off the mat.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: It's already too late. Your legs are done. That's the problem.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: For so long, they just sat there and they made
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: millions and millions and millions of dollars.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: And then now they're trying to, like, police everything when
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they haven't patrolled in a long time.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And some things cannot be undone even though
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: you try to. And I feel like they are trying
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: to just, you know, getting their legs cut out from
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: under them. In the courts, the local courts.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: You know when you're in, like, a relationship and in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the moment— you don't do the things that you have
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: to do yeah to stay in the relationship yep and
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: then like once you realize the relationship is at a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: point of no return and then you try to change
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: yourself and then you try to do the things that
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: she asked you to do for years and then she
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: tells you sorry i wanted you to be this person
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the entire time and now it's too late yeah that's
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: where we're at.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah i think bruno mars had a song like that
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: should have bought you flowers Is that what that's about? Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: it sure is.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not very good at, like, lyrics.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: You should have held your hand. Yes.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: That's what you should have done. I should have bought
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: you flowers. But you didn't. Yeah, NCAA, you should have
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: bought us flowers.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Or paid us when we were playing. Yeah. A little bit.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Just a little bit more. Just a little bit.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Just a little bit more.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: More than that $ 450 per month to pay my rent.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: When rent was $ 900 because after Katrina, everybody moved from
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: New Orleans to Baton Rouge.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Rent got high. Any who's we'll continue on with
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: the football Friday.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I promise today we are going to get into actual football.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: First two hours.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: We'll start to break that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Not here.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: That's on the overtime show in a half hours.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Nope. Just we'll dabble here and there and we'll find
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: our way back to it. But we'll also find our
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: way to actual football. It's going to be taking place
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: in Tiger Stadium coming up here in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: A day. One day. Tomorrow. I was going to say
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: like 31. Just tomorrow. 32 hours. Don't do math. That's
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: not you, bud.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I really don't know what official kickoff is. I probably
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: should because I got to be there to call it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: But we'll find that out too.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: More OTB when we come back.
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  Speaker 3: A thousand laughs have made me colder, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: At this the same. 2007 champs, purple and gold to
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  Speaker 1: the core. This is Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn,
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  Speaker 1: Baton Rouge's go-to for all things Louisiana sports.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Alondra. Not only for.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Playing that certified banger, but for letting it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Breathe as well.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of kids here without you three
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: doors down. There's a lot of there's a lot of
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: children in the car, maybe on the way to school.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: They're like, hey, mom and dad, what is this sound
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: of an angel I hear coming out of my speakers?
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: That was just three doors down. I've never heard sounds
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: like this before. Yeah, beautiful. We just hopefully we're introducing
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: a new generation.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, children, we used to have a bunch of songs
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that sounded like that, and they were burnt on the
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: same CD. A CD was something that was like a circle, right?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: And you put it inside of your radio, and it
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: played the 17 tracks that you burnt on to said CD.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And so when we bring the burnt CD tour to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Alec Bach Stadium here coming up sometime soon, you'll be
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: able to hear bands like Three Doors Down, like The Calling.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Headlined by Goo Goo Dolls. Matchbox 20 is going to
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: make an appearance. And we'll have all that information for you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: And when he says that there was a lot of
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: songs that sounded like that, he means it. They're eerily
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: similar to that. I need you to chill out.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Of all the things that you've said that I disagree
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: with on this show, if you disrespect Three Doors Down
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and all of these incredible bands.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I might leave you by yourself on the show. At
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: what point did I disrespect them? You said they sound alike.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: They do sound alike. No. And it sounds awesome. No.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. They got their
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: own sound.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Very unique. Thank you. I get it. You know?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Tender.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Very assembled. No. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Hinder is not in the category. Look, they got two bangers. Yeah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: lips of an angel, brother.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: But they're not in the category of the bands we
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: just talked about. Hinder didn't make the card. Cold by Crossfade?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Hinder did not make the card for.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: The— Not even an opening act? Nope. Play while people
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: are getting there? Getting to their seats? No, no. The
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Callings already got the opening act.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: They've already nailed it down.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: That's what I said. I don't know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Anyways, we're going to have ESPN's Pete Thamel join us
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: at like 7.35 or so. So it's going to be
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a quicker segment. And obviously, Pete,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: he's on college game day, but he's been down here.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: He was outside the courtroom last night working late into
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the night.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Working overtime.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I knew Pete was coming on the show, but when
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I saw him on ESPN like at 11.30, I'm like, oh, boy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: How's that going to go? So we're going to have
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: him on to kind of give us all the latest
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: when it comes to what's happening tonight. It was college sports, athletics, football, basketball,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: all the sports and all the things and all the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: court cases.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: For real, though, I felt like courtrooms shut down about 5.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I thought so, too.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Apparently, they work into the evening. Yeah, so I was
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: sitting there. I don't know if it's like a special
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: situation because, you know, there's a game tomorrow or not.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I was sitting there with my father-in-law, and we were
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: watching the Georgia Tech-Colorado game, and he's like, Hey, Jake,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: anything on that court case?
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: And I looked at my watch.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, No, no, sir. late and he's like
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: well does that mean they're pushing I go I don't
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: think they can.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: And so then I get on social media and it
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: was like at that time.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: It just broke and in 30 minutes the judge is
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: going to make an announcement.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah I mean I guess we don't know a whole
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: lot about how the legal system works but yeah I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: felt like that you know once it hits about 4
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: or 5 in the afternoon they hit a little recess
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: button and they push it to the next day but
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I guess not that was my one takeaway last night
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I was like wow they worked late I thought everybody
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: went home at 5. Nope.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And not in this case, no pun intended.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: So Pete Dan was going to join us.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: As I said, we'll take a break here coming up,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and then he'll join us at like 735-ish, somewhere around then,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and try to get all the latest that's going on
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: right now because there is a federal case. There's the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: case that was here. And, you know, if you don't
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: roster these players, you're going to be held in contempt
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: of court.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They have to start. They have to catch at
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: least five passes tomorrow or you're contempt.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: So if Daquan Wright gets added to the roster, which
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: we all believe he will be, he thinks he's going
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to play against Clemson, by the way. I thought he
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: had to.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, yes.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't want to speak in absolutes here,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: but yes. He thinks he can play against Clemson. Because
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: it is the same offense that he played in, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: he knows the terminology, he knows the verbiage, and he's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: been in shape because he's been in camp with the Browns.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Like for Harris, he said he would need a couple
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: of weeks.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Yep, you heard right. Yeah, put him in. Put him in.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, why wouldn't he? I mean, I would assume
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: the terminology is the same, but I'm sure there's a
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: little bit of difference here. You've never run a route
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: next to the person next to you. I mean, even
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: in where this is a normal situation where you come
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: in one week and you play, like even in that case,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: like in the NFL, you get traded to a team
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: or you get cut on a Monday, picked up on
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: a Tuesday or Wednesday by another team. At least you
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: have a practice, right? Yeah. At least you have one
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: or two practices to get timing down. It's just like
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: if you're, how you run an over route as a
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: tight end or like if you're running a post corner
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: with somebody like, You want to at least run it
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: one time with the guy that's running the post to
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: see his time and his stride length and your timing
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: against it. So I have a hard time believing they're
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: going to play at all. But, of course, if you
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: have to roster them, then you put them on the roster. Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: But I have a hard time believing maybe defense tackle,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: you put them in there. I don't know. But, like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: tight end, I have a hard time believing he's going
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: to play a snap.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: This week right yeah even if it's friday even if
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: he does feel like he's ready to go as far
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: as being in shape knowing the place to your point
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you do want to have that experience knowing what it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: like to run you know two by two route combination
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: whatever it might be and so and they were sitting in.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: The courtroom until all day yesterday into the night like
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: two days before the game like that there's no way
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: that they can possibly get their bodies ready yeah I'm.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: No I'm with you I mean I think it takes
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I think it takes much more to get your body
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: ready than people realize so much that goes in you
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: take like three weeks off football activities and you gotta
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: hit reset almost so and again I don't really feel
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: like it's you know for this game it's it's for
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: it's for down the road all right we will step
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: away here and when we come back we are going
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to have ESPN Pete Thamel join us obviously Pete does
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: A great job for them. He's on college game day
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: as well. So he's actually in town for the game.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: He was in town yesterday for the court case. So
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: we'll break all those things down with Pete when we
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: come back here on OTB.
• 29:01
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  Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football 24-7. You're listening to Off
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the Bench.
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  Speaker 3: To the dark side of the moon.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I feel there's nothing I can do. No, I thought
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: you were going.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: To sing. I thought you were going to keep it going.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: No, that was flat.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: So flat.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Don't even look good when you sing. $ 2, 500 a month
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: and this is the crap that you bring to the show?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: thank you i appreciate that all right so uh pete
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: dammel is wrapping up a call as you can imagine
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: he's probably talking to all the peoples on the phone
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: so pete's going to call us uh whenever his call
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: does wrap up that could be at any time hopefully
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: it's just not like at like you know 755 yeah the.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Old the old heart out should we get it should
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: we get him to sing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He's up pretty late last night. Not
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: sure if he's ready to do that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I was trying to follow as much as I could
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: yesterday with what was said, what was stated, the testimonies,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: and Greg Sankey being there yesterday. It didn't sound like
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: him being there moved the needle much. I know that,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I guess it's He testified for a long time. All right. Well,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: wait a minute. We got a little phone call here.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: We do have a little phone call. I'm going to
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: turn this up. And, Pete, I think you're going to be.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Live on the air with us. Pete Thamel joins us now.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Pete, it is a pleasure to have you on, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: we appreciate your time because we know you've got like
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: 97 things probably currently going on right now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I'm actually pulling into our game day office right now,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: right near Tiger Stadium.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: And it's a good reminder that there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Is a football game this weekend.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I know. I know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Which is part of it, which I'm extremely excited for.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it is.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It has been a surreal 24 hours in Baton Rouge, guys.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: There's just no other way to say it, Jacob.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I've seen some things 20 plus years covering national college football.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I don't, I never had a day like yesterday.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't, I can't imagine that you have MP.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: That's exactly where I was going to start.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I was going to almost like get you to set
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the scene of what yesterday looked like, because you have
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: been doing this for so long on a national scene.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: And you're here with college game day to tell a
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: great story on the broadcast, to preview the game, to
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: talk about the game, to talk about the matchup and,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: all the things that we love about ESPN's college game
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: day and yesterday you found yourself in front of a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: courtroom talking about players that could be eligible could not
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: be eligible to play that were from the NFL and
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you know going to maybe play for LSU and other
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: places in the SEC like for you yesterday just kind
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: of walk us through what yesterday looked like Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: So, you know, hopefully a lot of your listeners have
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: not been inside the downtown Baton Rouge.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And I mean, you walk by a courtroom and there's
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: literally a digital sign that says, do not talk.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: To the inmates.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So like that, like I walked by that side like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: 15 times. So just like, and there's people who, you know,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: appeared to commit crimes going through their daily things. And
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  Speaker 2: then at the end, you.
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  Speaker 6: Have 14 student athletes.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That was a powerful visual in that courtroom yesterday, right?
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  Speaker 6: 14 student athletes.
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  Speaker 2: And you have SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on the stand
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  Speaker 2: for three plus hours. There's so many different facets of
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  Speaker 2: it that were amazing. And while he's on the stand,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: it's revealed in the courtroom, it's like a Netflix series
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: plot twist, that the SEC has filed federally against LSU,
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  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, Merge Osbury, that athletic director, and the Board
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: of Supervisors. And that, nobody in the courtroom knows this
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  Speaker 2: until the lawyer brings it up in the questioning.
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  Speaker 6: Right, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: We can't have electronics there. So it was just a
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: lightning bolt. that rips through the courtroom. Everyone's like, wait
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a minute, what? And people are running outside on their
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: phones to try to go to Pacer to find the lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: And the lawsuit was actually filed around midnight.
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  Speaker 6: It just didn't process and pop up in the system.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was 1142, and Sankey picked the standard
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: around 1145.
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  Speaker 6: I often joke with my colleague Paul.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Feinbaum that the FCC drama feels made up to give
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: him something to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: And that is a moment that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Definitely was so surreal, serendipitous, that it felt made up.
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  Speaker 6: So, I mean, just think about this. Greg Sankey.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: took the stand for three plus hours he was grilled
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  Speaker 2: by tony clayton a charismatic bombastic local attorney um you
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: know who at one point said how can you do
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: this to these children.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: And pointed to the you know the 14 uh.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: There was about four there were a couple that went
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: in and out but about 14 some of that games
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: uh student athletes who all took the stand and told
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: their uh and told their personal stories uh And this
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is– the local audience will understand this better than the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: national audience, but there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Was clearly a.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Petty rivalry between Tony Clayton and Jason Williams. Tony Clayton
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: is a local district attorney. Williams is from New Orleans.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And they were, like, sniping back and forth and talking
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: trash the whole time.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: At one point, Tony Clayton said, as my grandma used
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to say, it ain't no fun when the rabbit.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Got a gun.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: He was on a roll.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: Like, we're all, like, gasping in the audience. Like, you
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: don't want to laugh. It's a, you know, it's a court.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: But you can't help these moments. And Clayton was effective, obviously.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: You know, the judge.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Ruled in favor of the athletes, Ryan Dowd and the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: other attorneys. found a loophole in the new NCAA handbook,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: which essentially didn't specify the time length for the 5-for-5 rule.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: And that really stuck with Judge Will Jordan. And it
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: was Rule 12.6 in the new handbook. And that's emerged
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: in another one of these lawsuits in the last couple
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: of days.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: And that was a big.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Factor in his ruin.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, guys, it's hard to.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Overstate just how entirely bizarre the day was.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Pete, it's fascinating. If this is not made into a
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: movie within the next 24 months, I would be absolutely shocked. Okay,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: so you say the federal case, it was news to
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: everybody while Sankey was on the stand. Which begs the question,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: now that the local courts have ruled, what is next
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: in this whole saga? Is this something that's going to be,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: we might get an answer to from the federal level
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: within the season? Is this going to drag on? What
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: could the possible fallout be once this federal court case starts?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: So there's an expectation that there'd be an expedited federal ruling.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: The timeline on that, I'm not certain of right now.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: But in the Big 12's case, the ruling came pretty quick.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: It was in a matter of days. But the real
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: drama today, guys, is does LSU add Daquan Wright and
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Davian Harris to the roster? And we don't we don't
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: know the answer to that. Wade Russ, the president, just
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: released a statement giving no clarity on whether or not
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that's whether or not that's going to that's going to happen.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And here's the double edged sword now. Put them on
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the roster. And you risk all those SEC punishments. I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: sure you guys have had a lot of fodder here lately, too.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Forget Feinbaum, right? You know, the punishments, I'm sure your
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: listeners are familiar with. Half the season suspension, half the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: football budget, voting rights revoked, et cetera, right? Those are real,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you know, those are.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Real stiff punishments.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And Sankey has autonomy to punish further. And remember, you
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: just dragged this guy to federal court for, I'm sorry,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: to state court for three hours.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: And his salary is revealed publicly.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He gets basically mocked by Tony Clayton for taking a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: private plane.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: There, etc.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a– and he ultimately, according to these SEC rules,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: has just got half his autonomy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: To punish.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And you also have 15 SEC presidents. The executive committee president,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Donnie Plowman, made very clear in a story on ESPN
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the other day that Greg Sankey is in power to
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: do it. It is 15 to 1 against LSU. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that's why– and so you have a federal lawsuit. You
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: have multiple state attorneys generals trying to empower the SEC.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And then obviously you have the 15 other SEC presidents
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: staunchly against LSU. I mean, and the trick, though, is.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: if they're not on the roster now, the lawyers representing
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: these players have talked about maybe taking legal action against
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: LSU for leaving them hanging.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: So it is a just... Yeah, it's something out of
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: a John Grisham novel.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Like, you keep the scenario, and there's also, what drives
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a great, like, talk radio story, as you guys know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: is ambiguity, right? Like, we don't know with legal certainty
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that Lane Kiffin is protected from suspension.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Like, we just don't, like, if the.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: we start today, the court order seemingly has everybody protected,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: but we start today and then there's this federal, there's
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: this federal ruling. Like we don't know if SEC can
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: come back after a federal win and say, you did
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: what you weren't supposed to do.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: We could punish you. Or is he protected? Like nobody
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: could give you a concrete legal opinion on that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they can get like, no one can say
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: with a thousand percent certainty, whether they're right or wrong.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And that's just, that's, that's the ambiguity hanging in the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: air right now. Um, you know, as we are, uh, what, uh,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: 30 hours plus from kickoff, something like that, 32 hours.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: 36 hours.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: From kickoff of an actual football game, which is just
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: another wild piece of this story. Catching up with ESPN's
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Pete Damel here on OTB. Pete, you mentioned the other
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: teams in the SEC. We know that LSU right now
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: is kind of the one out in front of everything
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and adding players. But do you expect other teams to
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: actually say, well, since this is happening already, we're actually
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: going to add some players, even though they've been, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: air quotes, against LSU and with the SEC throughout this
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: entire process?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think– the way the rest of the league
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: is gawking at LSU and lining up against them, I
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: don't really see anybody adding with it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: What Donnie Plowman came up and said.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: The other day is players who signed NFL contracts, you
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: can't unsign.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: So she said they are staunchly.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Opposed to this narrow, narrow thing, which obviously Daquan Wright
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and Zabin Harris fit in because they signed NFL contracts. So, look,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: other people are operating in the gray of some of
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: this 505 injunction stuff. This is the stand that's been taken.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: You could argue whether it's fair or not. That could
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: fill hours of radio, right? And I'm not here to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: judge that, but what's clear to me is The other
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: 15 SEC schools are united. They're not going to make
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: their presidents look like hypocrites here. They have singled out
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: LSU as an outlier, and that's.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: The world LSU is operating in right now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Well, Pete, enjoy the game tomorrow. Have fun. Have fun
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: on campus.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I know LSU is one of the best places, one
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of y'all's favorite places to come to to have college
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: game day. So hopefully at some point tomorrow, hopefully just
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: for a little bit even, You get to actually feel
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: like you're experiencing like an LSU game day with a
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: big game because we do have that, like you said,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: as you're pulling up to the stadium. So hopefully you
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: get to enjoy that just for a little bit.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hope we have a great crowd for
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: college game day. I hope everybody can come down and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: see us right here on campus. We will celebrate the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: game of football. It's not going to be a.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Three-hour legal show.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: But there's going to be a little bit of legal
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: analysis of where we are in the world.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: As you have to. Pete, you're the man. We appreciate
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: you joining us. We'll catch up with you again soon.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Hey, thanks, Jacob and Matt. Appreciate you guys, man.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. There he is, ESPN's Pete Thamel. Good enough to
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: join us. And again, I got to say, all the calls.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like blown away with just like some of the story.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: And there's going to be so many stories that come
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: out from the courtroom yesterday. It sounds like it's from
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: like a 90s movie.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: It really does. It does.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: It feels like a Grisham novel like you both said there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a break.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: More OTB when we come back here live from Rouse's
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in.
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  Speaker 4: Short segment here. We've been better. We have.
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  Speaker 3: We've been better, but obviously, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: I was just thinking about that, too. I had not
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  Speaker 4: heard the time yet. Yeah, so the way that Pete
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  Speaker 4: and put on a stand for over three hours. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: That's a quote that I heard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, my God, that has got to be a
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  Speaker 4: Straight to DVD. Nah, they don't make those anymore. I
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  Speaker 3: Nah, they make DVDs.
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