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Patriots Unfiltered 9/16: Dolphins Recap, Scheme Changes, Necessary Fixes · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Talking about the Miami Dolphins and this is a guaranteed
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  Speaker 4: win for the New Land Patriots. I mean, I remember
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 4: at the Lette Stadium, and it's a happy Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: Look at that face.
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  Speaker 1: It's a happy Tuesday because.
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  Speaker 5: The face of a guy who guarantees.
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  Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know it's the feeld. You gotta have
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  Speaker 4: the field, you gotta have that.
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  Speaker 5: Hats off to Freddy the leader. That's what leaders. Leaders lead.
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  Speaker 5: When Freddie Kirsh.
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  Speaker 1: Came through but inspired the team a little.
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  Speaker 6: Bit, did you like, give a pep talk or something
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  Speaker 6: I guarantee we got.
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  Speaker 3: I might have. I might have, but all kidding aside.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't kidding, Yeah you will there, It was no
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  Speaker 5: why not.
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  Speaker 4: You know we talked about we had our we have
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  Speaker 4: a ten o'clock meeting every Tuesday with our whole department,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, for the young'ins, I wanted to let
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  Speaker 4: them know that even during the Brady years peak dynasty,
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  Speaker 4: you'd go down to Miami and anything could happen.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we lost to.
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  Speaker 5: Two and thirteen Dolphins team once down there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and with the Patriots, you know, riding high.
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  Speaker 4: So when you can go to Miami in September, especially
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  Speaker 4: when it's the hottest, and get yourself a win and
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  Speaker 4: you're a Patriots team, yeah, I'm beaming. I'm beaming. Let's go,
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  Speaker 4: let's go. So yeah, I was, Yes, I was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a lot to clean up. It was a
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  Speaker 3: sloppy game by both teams.
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  Speaker 5: That's not for this week.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Thank god Miami did what they did. But Miami,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Patriots did what they had to do
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  Speaker 4: and you come out of there with a win.
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  Speaker 3: Big one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm through wildly entertaining one too. And it was probably
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  Speaker 5: not for the coaches and stuff, but just watching it.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, turn in any game that makes it exciting, and
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  Speaker 3: Mike and I was.
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  Speaker 5: Just like laughing at some point, like like almost like delirious.
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  Speaker 1: Home game, you're drunk, That's what I felt like.
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna break it down and uh, as much
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  Speaker 4: as we can. Tomorrow will turn the page and we'll
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  Speaker 4: look toward the Pittsburgh Steelers. But today it's all about
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  Speaker 4: reveling in a Miami win.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 7: I think what most surprising to me is I felt like,
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  Speaker 7: and I can let Evan dive into it a little bit,
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  Speaker 7: but it just felt like they really changed things up
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  Speaker 7: a little bit game plan wise on both sides of
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  Speaker 7: the ball, you know, speaking just from the defensive side
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  Speaker 7: of the ball. Seemed like they completely went away from
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  Speaker 7: what they did last week against the Raiders and look
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  Speaker 7: mixed results.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe mixed results is a little.
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  Speaker 7: Bit generous down to the end, but uh, I just
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  Speaker 7: think it's a huge win for the organization and for
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  Speaker 7: Mike Frabel. And that's what I was wondering, like, is
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  Speaker 7: this a bigger win for Mike Frabel or Drake May
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  Speaker 7: And I kind of think it's a bigger win for
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  Speaker 7: Mike Frabel and you know, buying some confidence in the program,
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  Speaker 7: getting some buy in from the players.
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  Speaker 5: And great debate.
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  Speaker 3: He just was it a bigger win for debate.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get to that later, should Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 5: Thought that's a good debate.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very pleased with the offense, very pleased. It
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  Speaker 6: should be a great performance from the offense.
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  Speaker 3: It was a fairly clean game.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's some penalties a botch snack, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: but execution wise, it was fairly clean.
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  Speaker 6: Even more so than that, I would call the scheme
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  Speaker 6: in this game dynamic. They really did some things in
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  Speaker 6: this game that I was hoping to see last week,
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  Speaker 6: And I was so frustrated last week because it felt
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  Speaker 6: so vanilla like. It felt like they called the game
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  Speaker 6: like it was an extension of the preseason, and I
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  Speaker 6: was so disappointed that they didn't do some of the
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  Speaker 6: things that we were seeing in training camp and some
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  Speaker 6: of the more schematic elements, you know, motion, moving pockets,
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  Speaker 6: getting Drake out on the bootlegs, trying to hit shot
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  Speaker 6: plays early in the game down the field, to get
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  Speaker 6: him into the game, and to get him in a rhythm.
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  Speaker 6: And they did all that and more in week two
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  Speaker 6: and just completely flip the script from what they did
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  Speaker 6: in the opening week. Their motion rate increased by over
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  Speaker 6: fifty percent, their under center rate increased by double They
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  Speaker 6: moved the pocket five six times in this game for
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  Speaker 6: Drake May getting him out on those bootlegs and making
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  Speaker 6: him just read half the field and his ability with
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  Speaker 6: his arm and his legs on those boots is dynamic.
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  Speaker 6: And this was the offense that I was hoping we
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  Speaker 6: were going to see last week.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like you gave somebody a pep talk about
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  Speaker 4: how to run an offense.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that. I'm not taking any victory lapse
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  Speaker 6: on that, but it was it was really exciting to
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  Speaker 6: see them execute on offense like that, Probably the best
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  Speaker 6: offensive performance they've had in three years.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, during the game, I was thinking, Drake
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  Speaker 4: looks calm. He looks more relaxed than I've seen him
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  Speaker 4: in pretty much any game.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know the reason for that.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's because of the plays they were calling, confidence
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  Speaker 4: in the O line, trust that the Miami secondary was
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  Speaker 4: in shambles.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it was, he looked more relaxed to me.
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  Speaker 6: The boots early on. I mean, well, I'd say, really
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  Speaker 6: the play to me that settled him down was the
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  Speaker 6: fourth down conversion to Diggs. I think when they hit that,
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  Speaker 6: you could kind of see a sigh of relief, like,
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  Speaker 6: all right, we're not gonna go three and out on
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  Speaker 6: the opening drive again, and we're moving the ball and
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  Speaker 6: we pick up a big fourth down to the big
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  Speaker 6: money receiver. And I know there's conversations about Digs and
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  Speaker 6: the fact that his yardage hasn't been great in the
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  Speaker 6: first two weeks. But those plays, man, are so huge.
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  Speaker 6: To have a guy like that that's just open and
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  Speaker 6: a veil quickly to the quarterback. It just takes so
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  Speaker 6: much pressure off of the quarterback to have a receiver
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  Speaker 6: like that. And then they started to scheme up some
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  Speaker 6: of the deep shots down the field using those moving pockets,
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  Speaker 6: and that's when I think it really started to open
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  Speaker 6: up for Drake and he started to really feel comfortable
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  Speaker 6: and like he was into the game. So I just
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  Speaker 6: love the game plan, I love the scheme. I hope
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  Speaker 6: that that's what they're going to do moving forward. It
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  Speaker 6: was just much much better.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I do too, But do you think that the
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  Speaker 4: way they call that game had anything to do with
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  Speaker 4: the state of the Miami defense.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, and I mean, Daniel Jones looked awesome in week one,
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  Speaker 6: and you have to put that caveat in there. But
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  Speaker 6: at the same time, you know, this is my other
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  Speaker 6: big kind of takeaway from the game in general. When
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  Speaker 6: Rabel got hired, he said, the first step is taking
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  Speaker 6: advantage of bad football. The Dolphins played a lot of
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  Speaker 6: bad football and the Patriots for the first time.
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  Speaker 5: That was my big takeaway in a while.
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  Speaker 6: We're able to take advantage of it. So we can
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  Speaker 6: see here and say that the defense of the Dolphins
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  Speaker 6: is in shambles, which it is, and it wasn't good
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  Speaker 6: two weeks in a row. They're the worst defense in
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  Speaker 6: the league by a lot of different metrics. But at
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  Speaker 6: the same time, I don't know if the offense last
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  Speaker 6: year takes advantage of it. I don't know if the
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  Speaker 6: offense two years ago.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if the offense last week would have
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  Speaker 5: taken advantage of the opportunities they got on both sides
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  Speaker 5: of the ball. Everything Evan said I wholeheartedly agree with. Offensively,
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  Speaker 5: it was Drake May's best game as a pro, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't really think this is a close second. There
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  Speaker 5: was nothing resembling a turnover from the quarterback in this game.
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  Speaker 5: To your point, Freddy about the overall execution, I know
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  Speaker 5: that we're a lot of penalties and there's things to
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  Speaker 5: clean up, but like I joked, like that's really two
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  Speaker 5: or three weeks from now. They needed to find a
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  Speaker 5: way to go down and win a football game and
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  Speaker 5: a place where they haven't really been able to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I just I thought everything that May did looked comfortable
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  Speaker 5: and all the stuff about under center motion, all the
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  Speaker 5: x'es and o's that Evan's given you really good in
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  Speaker 5: depth insight into. To me, it's just very simple. Instead
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  Speaker 5: of throwing forty six times, you threw it twenty three times.
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  Speaker 5: And it's amazing how your two rookie offensive linemen looked
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  Speaker 5: awesome only throwing the ball twenty three times as opposed
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  Speaker 5: to having him drop back fifty whatever times in the opener.
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  Speaker 5: There was such a better performance by the guys up front.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody looked better, everybody looked better offensively, and they moved
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  Speaker 5: the ball but the length of the field twice in
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  Speaker 5: the first half, three times in the first half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Mike and I talked a little bit on the postgame show,
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  Speaker 5: would like to have seen a continuation in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 5: but even better when you kind of take a hit
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  Speaker 5: a punch back. They responded with, what I think is
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  Speaker 5: the play of the game, and maybe the best player
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  Speaker 5: that Drake may has had in his career is the
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  Speaker 5: fifty five yard at o Vermandre Stevenson, which completely flipped
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  Speaker 5: the game because they were teetering there for a second. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and that play wasn't just about well, we know he
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  Speaker 5: has the arm talent. It was everything that went before
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  Speaker 5: the arm talent that impressed me. Jalen Phillips comes in,
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  Speaker 5: he kind of sees him, shrugs him off, slides, moves
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  Speaker 5: up and then puts it right on the hands of
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  Speaker 5: a receiver who's not used to being that far downfield
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  Speaker 5: making those kinds.
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  Speaker 4: And that was a great catch, great throw, great catch,
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  Speaker 4: you know, because he great run after catches. His arms
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  Speaker 4: are fully extended, just like focus offensive way.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with Evan. I mean, that's as good a performance
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  Speaker 5: as we've seen you in the Drake May area.
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  Speaker 7: And so I highlight all of Ramandra's game too. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: that's a throwback on the field. I had to write
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  Speaker 7: about him yesterday just that was the player we saw
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  Speaker 7: back in twenty twenty two that can do it always.
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  Speaker 7: They can break tackles. Just a really impressive game from him,
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  Speaker 7: and then that was really the cherry on top of
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  Speaker 7: just a great day for him. So that's a great
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  Speaker 7: sign for him. I said on the show, I love
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  Speaker 7: that balance when Rimander is able to do that, and
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  Speaker 7: then they can start to get Travon Henderson going a
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  Speaker 7: little bit and you know, not really need to make
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  Speaker 7: him such a focal point, but to slip him in there,
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  Speaker 7: and you know, when they have an opportunity to the
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  Speaker 7: defense might not be expecting.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what they're gonna be it.
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  Speaker 5: And then you see, like we talked so much about, well,
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  Speaker 5: Drake missed so many of those easy throws against the Raiders. Again,
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  Speaker 5: you know, maybe if they had to throw at fifty
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  Speaker 5: times he would have he would have mixed a handful. Again,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I didn't really see a lot of misses
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  Speaker 5: in this game. I think there might have been one
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  Speaker 5: that he pointed to himself. I actually think he was
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  Speaker 5: right on Diggs. I think if he had thrown it
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  Speaker 5: where Diggs was, I think he you know, potentially would
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  Speaker 5: have led him into a pretty pretty big hit. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't see a lot of inaccurate passes in this game.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not only forwarding complete passes the whole game, but
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  Speaker 5: even the completions I thought were all where he wanted
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  Speaker 5: them to be for the most part, maybe just you know, nitpicking.
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  Speaker 5: The one to Hooper I think might have been a
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  Speaker 5: touchdown if he had delivered maybe a better ball, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, big, I mean big time throw to Booty
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  Speaker 5: for the touchdown. Big time throw to Stevenson and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of very underrated plays in this game when they
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  Speaker 5: did get behind the chains, the little like dumps over
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  Speaker 5: the middle for like seven yards to Hunter Henry, eight
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  Speaker 5: yards to Remondre Stevens in the setup, very manageable third downs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a sequence to that point where he
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  Speaker 6: hit digs over the over the ball and on the
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  Speaker 6: juke and then hit Trevon Henderson on the wheel route
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  Speaker 6: on third down on the next play.
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  Speaker 5: Vintage Josh McDaniels, by the way.
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  Speaker 6: That yeah, And that was like that. I was like,
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  Speaker 6: that's a real offense. Like they got into second fifteen
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  Speaker 6: and didn't have.
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  Speaker 5: To bund That was one of the sequences I was talking.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, this is unbelievable. And when we were
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  Speaker 6: in Minnesota, Uh, they they practiced those exact situations with
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  Speaker 6: the vikings, and it's a big thing for Kevin O'Connell,
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  Speaker 6: like if you get off schedule, getting yourself back on
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  Speaker 6: schedule and then converting on third down. And so they
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  Speaker 6: practiced that exact sequence and hit it basically the exact
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  Speaker 6: same way in those joint practices And I was like,
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  Speaker 6: that is good offense, Like that's not you can find
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  Speaker 6: plays here or there. Any offense, we'll find that in
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  Speaker 6: the NFL. But the ability to get out of second
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  Speaker 6: fifteen and then turn that into a first down and
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  Speaker 6: stay on the field was really just it was awesome
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  Speaker 6: to see that. I don't think I've seen them do
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  Speaker 6: that in a while, you know, you mentioned the the
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  Speaker 6: throw to Remandre was just I mean, it's a franchise
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  Speaker 6: quarterback type play, like you dip the ball with two
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  Speaker 6: hands on it because Phillips is coming in to swipe
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  Speaker 6: at it for the strip sack, so he dips the
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  Speaker 6: ball and I think the part that's the best part
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  Speaker 6: of it is he like settles his feet back down,
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  Speaker 6: you know with Drake like sometimes once he moves off
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  Speaker 6: his spot, his platform gets all out of whack and
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  Speaker 6: he's throwing from a bad throwing platform. So he gets
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  Speaker 6: back his feet back underneath him and then he throws
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  Speaker 6: the ball to Remandre and then that's why the accuracy
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  Speaker 6: was good on that play as well. So it was
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  Speaker 6: to see him make a play like that, Like you said,
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  Speaker 6: they go down five, they're kind of you know, getting
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  Speaker 6: the momentum, Like you could feel it in the stadium
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  Speaker 6: that the momentum was flipping back to the Dolphins, and
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  Speaker 6: then Drake May just literally puts the team on his
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  Speaker 6: back and goes two plays into the end zone, the
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  Speaker 6: fifty five yard at or Remandre and then the scramble touchdown.
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  Speaker 6: He's got Jude On unblocked running, you know, off the edge,
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  Speaker 6: their free runner, and he just he just scrambles out
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  Speaker 6: the back and Waltz is in for a touchdown. Just
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  Speaker 6: did it himself. Just did it himself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: On the other side of the ball, Patriots had their
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  Speaker 4: problems with Tua.
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  Speaker 3: You know, for a while he was on a roll.
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  Speaker 3: Did it seem to you, guys?
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  Speaker 4: Toward the end the Patriots kind of picked up the
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  Speaker 4: pressure a little bit and started not allowing him to
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  Speaker 4: get to his first read, which was kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of the key to the game with him. But they
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  Speaker 3: increased the pressure toward the end to allow that.
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  Speaker 1: Did it see that to you? I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they increased the pressure.
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  Speaker 7: I think the coverage was probably a little bit better
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  Speaker 7: and bought them a little bit more time to get there.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that last play was a little
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  Speaker 7: bit more of a physical effort.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, just to talk about.
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  Speaker 7: Their plan a little bit, I mean, after playing a
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  Speaker 7: good chunk of man last week. They did with what
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  Speaker 7: the Colts did. They played a bunch of zone. They
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  Speaker 7: played a lot of too high safeties trying to take
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  Speaker 7: away the big plays, and they were eating apart in
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  Speaker 7: the middle of the field pretty much the whole game,
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  Speaker 7: you know, based on linebacker coverage. And you know, I
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  Speaker 7: think don't think Alex Austin had a particularly great game,
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  Speaker 7: but you know, that's the thing. It's like you can
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  Speaker 7: get It was like three or four pressures for the
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  Speaker 7: first three quarters, and then like in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 7: they're like twelve pressures. So you know, it's a little
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  Speaker 7: bit like, well, you'd love to get consistent pressure, but
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  Speaker 7: if you got to close the game out at the end,
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  Speaker 7: I guess you.
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  Speaker 1: Did it at the right time.
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  Speaker 7: I still think they've got a long ways to go,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm sure we'll get into the nitty gritty of
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: the defense, which which I think everybody's kind of talking about.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Another example where I would say what Evan made the
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: point about Vrabel's comment about taking advantage of bad football.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: I don't think they had a tremendous amount of pressure
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: for the vast majority of this game, and They got
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: it by taking advantage of bad football. So the last
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: two drives that Miami has the ball, they pulled the
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: you know, the double dip, which you don't really see
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: very often. The second last possession, they're moving the ball
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: a little bit. Then they get a delay a game,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: followed by two overthrowing an absolutely wide open Tyreek Hill,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: followed by a false start. So now you getting it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: End up getting off the field with a Harold Landry sack,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: and then it's a desperation fourth down that MAPU picks off.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: So take it. They gave you an opportunity. Don't let
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: them out of the grave. They want to bury themselves
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: with stupid back to back penalties. Make sure that hurts.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Last drive they take over on their own forty they
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: go right down the field. Fortunately h again bad football
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: steps out of bounds for no reason, and you don't
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: get a touchdown out of it. Okay, you got a reprieve.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: What are we gonna do with it? Oh, Miami is
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: gonna double down. They're gonna get another false start and
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: delay a game back to back. Now you got them
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: backed up. You can't let them score now, And Milton
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Williams said, no, you ain't scoring. Milton Williams took over
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: the game, you know when he had to that. When
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: you go and invest in a guy, you're investing in
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: in a skill set, right. Yeah, you know we used
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: to call some of those designady pass rushers, like von
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Miller later in his career with the Rams, when he
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: went to the Super Bowl with their ears on you like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: you have a closer? What buffalo you're You know, we're
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: not asking you to get twenty sacks anymore, but we're
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: asking you when the games on the line show up.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Milton Williams completely dominated that last play and ends any
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: chance take advantage of bad football. That's what they couldn't do.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: The Raiders try to give you those opportunities in the opener,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: and they couldn't take advantage just one week the progression
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: to me and Evan pointed it out. They put themselves
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: in position to take advantage of the other team's mistakes
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: so much better in this game.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I mean a game like that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: If you know, if you're home and you have people
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: over having a barbecue, it just makes the food taste
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: that much better. And nothing says football season like firing
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: up the grill in the backyard. And having a cookout,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and the best cookouts have the best looking lawns, the
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: lawns that are cut with an Aaron's mower. Aaron's, the
• 17:56
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• 17:58
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• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Aarons dot com. Define your errands. I have an aaron snowblower.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I don't have an Aaron's lawnmower.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't either.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Hint, hint.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: I'm glad we're talking about Duce's defense because as happy
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: as I was watching the offense tape yesterday, the defense
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: has a long way to go, and they I think
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: the biggest thing with the defense right now is the coverage.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: They're just not covering tight enough. I think the defensive
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: line is going to eat once they have the coverage
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: figured out, I really do. I think Williams Landry Barmore
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: even Chase On a little bit more in this game
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: than I thought week one. They can get after it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, William's been awesome, He's been great, but the
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: coverage has not been good enough, and they gave up
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of space in those corner hole shots three
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: times three explosives, touchdown to Jalen Waddle, same thing, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: to to his credit, you know, Rabel said it after
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the game, we were gonna give him the corners and
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: to a hit him. And so then they they're kind
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: of in this cover two defense, and two was hitting
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: the honey hole there. He's hitting this hole shots and
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: so then the obvious pivot would be the man, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: they don't have Christian Gonzales, so then they try to
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: pivot to man and then they're getting torched in man,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: and so it just left them without a lot of
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: great answers.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: It's like the last drive of the first half they
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: had man, yeah, yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: You know, splay and that's when Splaine gets on a
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: chin and touchdown, right. So it just it didn't feel
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: like they had a lot of answers. But you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: to their credit, Zach Kerr I thought saved some of
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: his best play calls coverage wise for the end of
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the game. And they actually changed up their coverage a
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: couple of times in the fourth corner and played some
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: different zones and didn't just stick in the Cover two
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: and on Landry's sack for example, you know, they ended
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: up playing Cover six or quarter quarter half and they
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: had a cover two beater to that side of the
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: field and to what was lost. Yeah, he had to
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: hold on the ball and Landry ends up getting home.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: So they had some really nice calls late in this
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: game that they kind of kept in their back pocket
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: for a big, a big spot, big moment in the game,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: but for three quarters that to it kind of did whatever.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I have a question about Zach Kerr.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I'll ask in a second, But before I asked that,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I felt, to me like conditioning for the defense was
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: pretty good, maybe because Miami had didn't have the ball
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: that much in the first half, but like, I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: they were rotating, but at the end of the game,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the defense looked pretty fresh.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I was just sitting here waiting to like just chime
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: in with that because it's something I haven't pointed out.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, there's no way you could have known, Fred,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But it was just something.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: We didn't highlight, and I think you had the answer.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Tough place, tough place to play, though, and I just
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: think that's something where down the end, those guys can
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: be gassed. I mean, I think at a certain point,
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: like late in the game, they started just playing Williams
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: like on third downs to give them a little bit
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: of a blow. But you know, just to be able
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: to make those plays at the end, you've got to
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: be in decent condition. In Miami Week two, it's you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: it's not the whole world, and they didn't play a
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: lot in the first half, but still you get down
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: the second half. Rabel said in the locker room, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: know you guys are exhausted. So I just that's that's
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: that's a good little piece of it. I think that
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: was good.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: My question on Zach KERRK because I was listening to
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: one of Paul's shows yesterday. They questioned whether or not
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: he was calling the plays. They they said that they
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: didn't notice him by calling them.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was calling the plays. I checked it a
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: couple of times, and he had the play sheet up
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: on it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: But did he have a headset? Yeah, so he was calling.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So what are they talking about? I don't know.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: I I double checked like three or four times in
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: the first quarter because I thought there was a chance
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: that Rabel might call it himself, so I wanted to
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: make sure, and I had the binoculars on the sideline,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: and he was absolutely he got a game ball at
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: the end so yeah, yeah, he was calling the defense.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: So what do you have to say about your shows?
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I just would wonder if you're not there, how would
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: you identify who the play caller is A b who
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: really cares well?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I think it's important to know. But they were saying
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: they didn't see his they didn't see him talking.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Do you do you do you have a problem with
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: the play calls? No, because I understand if you have
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: a problem or you thought it was great, if you
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: want to credit or blame somebody other than that. Like like,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: as a Patriots fan, the team that I'm rooting for
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: made plays at the end of the game and ended
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: up winning the game. I don't care if Zach Corr
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: called it or if Mike Rabel called I don't. I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: just I don't know why that is. I mean, like,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: do we just have to find something? I know I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: not hypocritical, but I'm looking forward to tomorrow when I
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: find out that evidently JJ McCarty isn't going to revolutionize
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: young quarterbacks like I was last week. But if you
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: had to redraft it now, Paul, I still take McCarty
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Like these guys like if everything is a referendum one
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: week I love it and I hate it at the
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: same time. I know it's a one week but I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: on everything.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I think just from a curiosity standpoint. I you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I always like to know who's calling the play's offense defense.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: So you're saying that you think he was.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Saying he was, And I've checked it on Sunday a
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: couple of times just to make sure, and he was
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: definitely calling the plays. And like I said, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: early on in this game, too, had a feel for
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: the cover two like they're expecting it. That's all they
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: see all the time is those two high safeties with
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: the Wattle and Hill. And then eventually the Patriots did
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: have some tricks up their sleeve coverage wise late in
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: this game that worked and led to pressure and led
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: to sacks and things like that that were big plays
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: in the game. So kudos to them, I guess, for
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: figuring it out by the time the game was really
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: decided in the fourth quarter. But statistically, the pass defense
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: is in a bad spot. They're giving up the most.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Yards in the league.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: They're six hundred and seventy seven yards through two weeks.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: They are, you know, thirty first and passer rating twenty
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: ninth and drop back EPA. I mean they're they're not
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: good there, and.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Jill get a reprieve this week.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Well and just as a again, I kind of wanted
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: to do this a couple of weeks because I don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: think this is really the time. Like Mike and I,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: you know, we kind of had a like we did
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: a little finger wagging Freddy in the postgame show that
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: we had like an hour of like just pure excitement
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: and enthusiasm, and then all of a sudden we started
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: getting a handful of calls like did you guys watch
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: the same game? I mean, you know, did you miss
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: all No, we didn't miss all the things that were wrong.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: It's just not the time, right, we won eight games
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: the last two years they went down to Miami and won.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: This isn't the time to nitpick every single bad thing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: We'll have time for that, right, So when a nitpick.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: They played two offenses in the in those two games
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: that when they when those two teams play other teams,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: they couldn't move the ball at all. The Raiders were
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: nothing last night offensively, and Miami was nothing offensively against
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Indianapolis in the first game. Right, and the Dvoa I
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: believe might be thirty two.
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: So they're twenty ninth and drop back EPA, they're thirty
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: first and passer rating if you want, you know what
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: the old stats all right, they're thirty first and passer
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: rating allowed. Uh, they just had their pass defense right
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: now is not good Now they don't have Christian Zalees.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Best player not playing right, not insignificant.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: I keep going back to the quote in March when
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: they signed Carlton Davis and Ray Abel had the funny
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: line about cat coverage. You got this cat, I got
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: that cat.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: They can't play cat coverage without Christian Zalees. So they're
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: they're having to play a lot of zone. They're having to, uh,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you know, rely on guys like Alex Austen and uh,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: you know rookie safety and Craig Woodson. You know the
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: guys that are are still learning on the fly how
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: to play against two of the best receivers in the
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: league and Waddle and Hill. It's a it's not an
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: easy task. It's not an easy task.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: And you know, McDaniel is coaching for his job.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: And he's he's a good offensive coach.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I won't have surprised that they had to bounce back
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: offensively from their for you know, week one performance. Uh
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: but now you know, the Patriots are given the blueprint
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: to the Bills, and so.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: You know, we could be seeing McDaniel being given the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: door turn around for them.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Huh yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I just you know, you I worry about the linebackers
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: and safeties. You know, I think Gonzo will settle down
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: the stuff on the outside when he comes back, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: I have I'm really excited to watch Davis and Gonzo
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: play together because Davis was really good in this game
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: and did his job just fine. They're just attacking everybody
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: else right now. But still, you know, Hawkins, Woodson, Splaine, Ellis,
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: are those guys going to be able to hold up
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: in coverage in the middle of the field.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That's the four guys that I think leads the league
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: in mistach So.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just I'm absolutely lost with that. With that,
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: I can't understand it. I mean, he's got more mistackles
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: than actual tackles. This is a guy who had over
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: three hundred tackles the last two years. I don't understand it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: I noticed in the video we put out of Rabel
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: walking in giving everybody handshakes. He gave Roberts Spaaine the handshake,
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: and Roberts Blayne did the old nope, nope, it wasn't
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: a good game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Like he was shaking his head. You could tell he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was not happy at all.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: You know, I kind of anticipated that Christianellis would be
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: a little bit of the weak link. I didn't think,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: you know, he was a special teamer last year who
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: got thrust into a role. I assume that Robert Splaine,
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: his experience in this defense, would be kind of the
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: catalyst in the middle and be able to maybe offset
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: some of the weaknesses that they might have with Ellis
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: with a rookie safety, with Jalen Hawkins who's a similar
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: guy to Christianellis, and that he was a special teamer
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: last year and has now been elevated into a safety hole.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But I just I can't quite understand it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: He's trying to make plays, he's trying to you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: hit the ball out and then missing the tackle.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And I just for a guy who is takes so
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: much pride.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: In what he does and you can tell he's super
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: intense about it, to have these two kind of games,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: it's just I can't quite figure it out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: His nose for the ball is good. He's there, he's.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Around it, but he's not getting he's not finishing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not as worried about the mistackles because
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I agree. I mean, his his resume would suggest that
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: he's a good tackler. We've seen him miss on tackles.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I going back to training camp, I think he chases
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: a lot in coverage. I thought he was gonna be
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: like I'm used to watching Juwan Bentley, who is a
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: bigger guy, but not really a three down guy because
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: he's not fast enough. And I thought maybe this would
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: be a step in the direction of improvement in that area.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's an improvement in that area. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: don't think he's He's great in space in the past game,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: but the mistackles have been glaring. I think that will improve.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: I think he's a better tach.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, this's a tough team to like improve your
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: mistackle stat.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: Especially well, just like I asked you about, like the
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: eight Chan touchdown. You know where he like Splain is
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: way over wide, and I mean eight Chan just kind
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: of cuts in in the middle of the field, is
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: wide open. All we talked about last week was middle
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: of field, middle of the field, Middle of the field.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just that play.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: It was a couple of times where you know, why
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: is he taking outside leverage on that He's got nobody inside?
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: And that was you know why I was gone, don't
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: I just I don't know if it's communication on the
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: back end and that they're all trying to figure out out.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: But you know, again, a lot of these guys that
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: were brought in were in this defense before, so you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Would expect that they would at least have a you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Know, fundamental understanding and there wouldn't be these kind of
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: critical plays like that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: One, which was just you know, an absolute debacle.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they got caught in two man. You know they're
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: they're in cover two man, so two deep safeties with
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: man coverage underneath it, and splained with just had a
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: chan and in that coverage. If you know that those
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: split safeties are over the top of the vertical routes
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: on the outside, it's just going to open up the
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: middle of the field. That was really there wasn't a
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: ton of time where I thought that they got beat
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: into in the true middle of the field. That was
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: a backbreaker, but it was to me, it was really
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: more those honey hole shots, like the corner routes, three
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: of them, just three explosives right on those plays alone.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: But the coverage by the linebackers and the safeties, it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: it's a work in progress. And if you're going to
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: play three corner nickel, like someone's going to be on
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: the back and someone's going to be on the tight
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: end out of that group, like there's no there's no
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: way to avoid, you know, explain being in coverage sometimes,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: or Hawkins or Woodson being in man coverage sometimes, Like
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: that's just that's how it's going to be. And those
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: are the matchups that like why would you throw at
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Carlton Davis if you could, if you could throw at
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: the linebackers in safeties. It just it's just common sense.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Just one more thing, sorry, Fred, I just would say
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Woodson to me, seems like he is in the vicinity
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: and he's seeing it right, but he's just learning how
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: much the NFL is a game of inches now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Whereas a cal it was, you know, he had a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: little more. I just I think I like what I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see just as a rookie.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: I know it wasn't perfect, and he got picked on
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: a lot, but I feel like he at least showed
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: some promise to me.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And I might be reading too much between the lines
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: on that, but.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like to think that, you know, some
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: of these I kind of think like he was just thinking,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: like I'm just not going to get beat over the
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: top here, and so he was giving a lot of
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: cushion to those corner routes. And so it's like, all right, Like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: if you want to give up a twenty yard instead
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: of a sixty yard completion, then I can understand where
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: you're coming from. At I think this is a great
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: like teach tape for Craig Woodson, Yeah, because those are
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: two of the fastest guys that he's going to see
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: in the NFL, and so to get a feel for
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: that kind of speed and how difficult those types of
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: players are to cover, Like, he'll learn from that and
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: he'll grow from that now moving forward that he's seen
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Hill and Wattle once, like, he'll get a good better
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: feel for how do I squeeze these throwing windows when
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: this guy is running a vertical stem right at me
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: and he's at twenty miles an hour, and then he
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: slams on the brakes and he breaks out like how
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: am I supposed to stop this? And I think that
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: will be a really good, like learning teach tape type
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: of thing, for.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: There's so much to talk about with this game, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: we're going to open it up to our listeners and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: viewers and see what they have to say. But you
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: know one thing that I want to add. I knew
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I knew it was going to be a close game
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: when Barrales missed those two expo boy, It's like, boy,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: even though we had the first two scores and we
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: stopped them, I said, those two extra points, I know
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: it's gonna you know, cost us, and it almost did.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: But you know, miss you know, missing those two extra
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: points really gave me that early bad feeling that uh oh.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: How did you we're in Miami.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: How did you guys react when they went for the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: field goal with him later in the game.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Held my breath, I held my breath. I mean, I'm
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: good for Vrabel, but like I was like, I don't
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: know if I want to do it?
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: But in the kickoff too, it's just I mean, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: said to Paul, I mean, what's frustrating is just you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: Parker Romo goes and has a pretty nice night, hits
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: five field goals for Atlanta. But I mean, I think
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: anybody who watched training camp practices this year probably gave
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: him the edge. Romo the edge, and you know, to
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: see the inconsistencies now magnified on real games with Borgalis,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: it's uh, you know, I just Rabel seems like he's
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: outwardly showing a very patient face and a supportive face
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: to him, But you gotta start making kicks like this
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: isn't gonna last forever.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: He's not going to we analyze those extras.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: I mean it was the laces he said, like they
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: said that he was hitting the ball wrong, Like he said,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: he mishit that, Yeah, mis hitting. And he said they
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: sit on the sideline, which I'm just like, you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: you guys talk about like a golf swing, like, I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: you spend all your time working on mechanics, like how
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: do you think get off that much?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And then you go to a sideline and you're able
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to fix it?
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I interest, I mean I don't. I'm not a kicker.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: So but he said he mishit them, you know, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: So I mean I can take him at his word.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I think it's a mental thing, and you know Mike's
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: thing to me, Mike. Mike had a little bit of
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: a pouting episode after during the game, you know, after
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: the second one, He's like, you know, Romo was better
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: in the summer, just had this like a bit. We're
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: all doing that, so you know, I guess you show
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: some patience, but I don't know how much. I don't
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: know how much. I mean, you saw it Atlanta, only
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: you know, gave it a week and they made a change.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: You know who's still there, and I know his struggles
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: went back to last year, so it's a little different.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: This guy's just trying. But you know, the last draft
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: pick that they had that didn't have a good year
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: was Chad Ryland and he's been pretty good since he left.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Right a lot of these kickers, but this is a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: new place and all of a sudden they find it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: But it's it's it's it's not even and it might
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: be as simple as that a new place. But I
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: just feel like all the kickers, I say this all
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: the time, they're virtually the same, and every once in
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: a while they go through little slumps. And I think
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: he's probably.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: I think Borer Gilis was probably gonna him.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Of course it does, Yeah, of course it does.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm I mean mentally, yeah, yeah, I'm.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Less worried about the kicker and more worried about the
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: punt return, Like you just can't give up that punt return.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: No, I'm worried about a lot of things. Special teams wise,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: they can't seem to get through, like and again, to
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: have its point the flag, the kicker not making it
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: isn't really to me special teams. That's that's the specialists.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: And it's also the.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Kicker, Like the kicker didn't make the kicker didn't kick
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: it into the landing zone. You know, that's the kicker. Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: The special teams penalties which happened both games, now four
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: of them allowing you know, a punt return for a touchdown. Yes,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: you had a kick return for a touchdown. But we're
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: not we're not looking to like even things off here.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: We want special teams to be a strength.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Not. We don't want to tread.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: Work at the very least, I mean, just don't hurt us,
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: you know, yet.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: A punt return touchdown in that spot, like and it
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: was a combination like they all got bottled up and
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: they had left nobody. The widest guy, I think it
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: was Jack Gibbons. I'm not a punt coverage like expert,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: but it seemed like it was Jack Gibbons, but the
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: widest guy on the outside, Like you have to have
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: the cutback, Like you can't just get yourself sucked into
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: the pile, into the sideline, because then if he does
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: get out, it's exactly what happened is going to happen.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: And you know, I thought, do you bring Matthew Slater
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: in just to help coach? I mean, they have two
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: really good special teams coaches, and Springer and Tom Quinn
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: like those guys.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the outside guys in particular.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe, I mean I thought Schooler it wasn't a
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: block in the back. It was it was kind of
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: a weird player, Like Schooler was down there.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: What happened They were talking about that on the broadcast.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he kind of the defender or the block or
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: the jammer. He kind of like fell backwards into Schooler
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: and like knocked Schooler off balance. And so I think
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: because he didn't actually apply force to Schooler, it's technically
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: not a block in the back. But it was just
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: an awkward kind of chain reaction that the guy the
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: jammer fell backwards into school er. Schooler misses the tackle
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: as a result of that, and now all of a sudden,
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: all hell breaks close from there. But that, like Paul said,
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: like special teams needs to be a strength. They had
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: four penalties and a punt return touchdown and we missed
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: two extra points.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: And we talked about it last week with doesn't see
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: like that big a deal. But the Marcellus dial like
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: they've been searching for the guy on the other side.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Schoolers down there every time, right, we know schoolers going
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: to be in position more often than not, he's going
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: to make the play. He didn't on this one, But
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: they're still trying to figure out who's going to be
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: the guy on a game to game basis.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: On the other side, well, listen, after you've mowed your
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: lawn with your Aaron's lawnmower, and before you give the
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: entree from your barbecue, you probably want something to just keep.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Give him something, a nibble appetizer.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: You know, football fans know that traditions matter, and turning
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: moments together into something truly epic. There would inspire us
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to make our masa in tostitos their traditional way, perfect
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: thing to serve people, starting with whole corn kernels, no
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: artifical official flavors, colors or preservatives, all to give you
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: that perfect crunch. Discover your next tradition this football season.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Head to the store, grab your Tostito's team bag and
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: scan the code for a chance to score an epic
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: experience with the Patriot. It's tostitos traditions matter. Could use
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: some tostitos right now now. Probably loud, yeah, not good
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: for radio.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Probably not. Probably not.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I'd probably make a mess.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some of our callers, some
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: of our emails. They're coming in fast and furious. The
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: lines are full. So we'll start with Cam in North Carolina.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: What's up, Cam?
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: It's Sam in North Carolina.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: I'm about to ask you if that is Cam?
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Ok? Yeah, but I mean coming into the season, they're
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: pretty much doing well. All I asked, you know, be
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: competitive in the games, Drake, show a little progress. I'm
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: sure everybody picked this big the Raiders and lose down
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: in Miami. We just splipped it. I mean, and you
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: can't ask so much more, uh I mean, the guy's
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: name was automatic Andy in college. I mean, got to
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: give him a little shot. He did make the sixty
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: three yard or the two extra point hurt. I mean,
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: but the at least is short, that's for short. At
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: least has got to be short. I hope that the
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: game ball gave confidence breaks, but I mean, let's go
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: with wins. Got to be better to talk about in
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: the lass, especially if you don't coach the number one peak.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Let's go okay, thanks, thanks Sam.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Does it help that the two extra points are more
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: makeable than the fifty three and if you're going to
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: fix something, that's easier to fix that than missing a
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: fifty three.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, I have a little bit of a different
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: take on it, I think there. I mean, I know
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: that he's probably not thinking of it this way, but like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: once you miss two extra points, no one's expecting you
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: to make the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Fifty three outer, so less pressure.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: So you just go out there and you make it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But if you're in, if you have that mental
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: thing going, everything collect.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: We can wait till we get through the callers. Maybe
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: the second half. I want to talk a little bit
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: about the game situation there at the end but we'll
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: we'll get back to that later.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Paul's school of football situation.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of I think there's a
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: lot of ways to go there.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, I did a double take.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I was sitting next.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: To me and I'm listening to and all of a sudden,
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Paul voice asking a question at
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: a press conference. I was like, is that that was?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Is that Paul?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: The boycott is over?
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Boy?
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: Jump?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I don't boy, that's my question to you, said, you're
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you're done with that?
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I never said that. I tried to leave. First of all,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: it was a very small crew yesterday media, so you
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: felt I try to allow the people that need the
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: day to day stuff to ask their questions. I don't
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: write day to day. I thought I'm trying to be cordial.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: I thought there was no boycott.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I thought there was ad' angelo's sub that's ridiculous going it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Was situational football. His eyes lit up, he was he
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: was on the edge of his seat.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: But do you sand what I'm saying, Like, these guys
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: are here every day and they're covering the beat on
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: a daily basis, they're writing this. It'sous just trying to
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to stay out of the way. The
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: questions that don't get asked are not necessarily questions that
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: I should be the one asking, right, That's true, Okay,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I want to be doing that. So that's first and foremost.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Let's go to Brian and Lowell.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: What's up, Brian, Brian, Brian.
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: What's up?
• 41:22
  Speaker 10: Hey?
• 41:23
  Speaker 11: Hey, hey, what's going on? We gotta think about the.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Wind on Sunday.
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, hey, I call you guys every week and
• 41:33
  Speaker 11: then you know, okay, so you know what we think
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: guys on radio. But that that game was that can't
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: have me nerve racking on Asmai goal Kickerganas. So I
• 41:46
  Speaker 11: was about to lose.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Man, I was racking nerves literally, man.
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: But we pulled.
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: We pulled out the end though. That's all matters.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: You pull the god the dubs.
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: So it finally beat Miami. So Miami, Miami finally is exposed,
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: tours exposed to thank God. So now I call that
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: Milton Williams do not playing a sack. Oh man, that
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: was nasty.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that was great.
• 42:12
  Speaker 11: I was like, oh, I was like that was that
• 42:15
  Speaker 11: was like a relief.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: It sure was I felt really, Oh my.
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: God, I know Down and Tours is trying to do
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: too much and uh Iron and got him by the U.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah great when great when thanks Brian, appreciate the call.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I got a Chris Farley call.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: I'm brought up Milton Williams though we talked about him briefly,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Like that guy is an animal like that. I love
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: watching that guy play. His motor runs hot. Uh, he's
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: got a lot more in his bag than what he
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: showed in training camp. I mean he's been as advertising then,
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: so I think he's been better, honestly than I expected
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: him to be. I expected him to be pretty good,
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: but it's early. I think the one thing that I
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: I was texting Barth about yesterday was like, I don't
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: want like he's been playing with his hair on fire
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: so much. It's like it's a long season Millon, like
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: it's you know, like I remember Judon was like this
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: out of the gate too, and he would just be,
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: you know, a menace for like the first eight, nine,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: ten weeks, and then that second half would hit and
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: he would decline.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I think one of the things, whether it was conditioning
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: or whatever, one of the things that were going against Judon.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: In those diss PA didn't really have that much else
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: that teams had to worry about. This here you got
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: barn War, you got Chase On. You know, you've got
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: some other things that an offense has to worry about
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: besides Williams, and that might help him a little bit.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean on the saka at the end of
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: the game, he beats a three man slide. They slide
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: the line to his side. They run a little stunt
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: with him and Landry and he splits the double team
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: and just goes right to the quarterback and takes them
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: down like that.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: That is it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Time play.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just an incredible play. I mean, it just
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: really he's just it has been so good. I just
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: hope that it can he can keep it up because
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: he's just been playing with all out effort and that's
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: hard to do for seventeen weeks.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Anthony's in Seattle.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: What's up?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Anthony?
• 44:11
  Speaker 13: The double return game rolls right off the tongue. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 13: could hear I got a picture. You know, guys, in
• 44:17
  Speaker 13: a handful of years, you guys are talking, you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: talking about oh, you know, uh, May's first thing that
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: you win that was down in Miami. The double return game.
• 44:24
  Speaker 14: Oh yeah, that's it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: You know, so I think I have the what do
• 44:27
  Speaker 13: you guys think for the for that for a name.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I would go with the Rabel kickoff return game.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: The Rabel kickoff return game.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: It's a mouthful return.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: David Silm about David Silverman game.
• 44:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that was That was my way of fishing for
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: a PUS shirt because I know how smart.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Place there you go, you'll get.
• 44:42
  Speaker 13: I got three things. I'm gonna talk to that just
• 44:45
  Speaker 13: so I can get them out. One, I'm flying to
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: Boston on Friday. My first trip to Boston is in
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: my first Patriots home game. I'm excited. I'm not rich,
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: so I can coordinate with the team. Uh two things.
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: One small criticism for Paul and uh A Flowers produced. Paul,
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: somebody on the postgame show mentioned that we scored thirty points.
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: You push back because of the return. But if we're
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: going to be consistent, which you normally are, you know
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: when the Patriots fans do that, you know because of
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: a defensive score.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Whatever you say, how many points did the Dolphins score
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: in the game twenty? They scored twenty, which is what
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: everybody said that in the postgame show, they held another
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: team to twenty. That's what that was. That was the mentality.
• 45:27
  Speaker 13: That's one lesson.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: And I also would take away the last field goal
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: that you took over and went four plays three yards
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: to kicked the field goal. They had twenty they and
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: I actually gave them three. Gave him credit for more
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: points because I'm giving them credit for the extra points
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: that they missed. The offense actually should have put seven
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: on the board twice and they only put six on
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: the board. I give them, I'm fair. I give them
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: points that they didn't actually record twenty four.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: They had thirty five.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: To me, this was a twenty four point performance by
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: the offense, all right. The offense was responsible for twenty
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: four points. Best true, best offensive game that they've had
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: in a long time, a long time. And I think
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: I said it earlier in the show. I felt Drake
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: May's best game by a long wide margin. Stats.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Thanks Anthony and Anthony, I know you're still listening. You
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: picked a good game to come to because this weekend
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: is the induction of Julian Edelman and Bill Parcells into
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. On Saturday.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Saturday, they'll have the event it's free of charge, so
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know where you're staying, but I would get
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: down here on Saturday check that out. And then you've
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: got the game on Sunday with Julian Edelman being honored
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: at halftime of the game. So a good weekend to
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: be here for Anthony and anyone else that's in the vicinity.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Come down a Patriot Place on Saturday and watch the induction.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: That should be really cool seeing Parcels back here, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Julian Edelman will have some funny things to say,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: so that'll be a good event.
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: I'm really interested to see Bill Parcels come back here
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: and just see that happen. And we've talked about it
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: for so long whether or not he was going to
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: get in. How are the fans going to respond? I mean,
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: I'm sure they'll be gracious and excited for him, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: you know, it's just a chapter of pat Patriots history
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: that I remember very clearly, and now to kind of
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: have that come full circle, I think it'll be pretty
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: cool to see.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's happening this Saturday here at Patriot Place.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Let's go to New Jersey. Dan's there, what's up?
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: Dan?
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 47:31
  Speaker 15: Guys torn between a couple of points. So I'm just
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: gonna mention this because the previous color mentioned the double return.
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: It's exceedingly rare. I don't know if you guys are aware.
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: It only happened one other time that I that AI
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: told me about. Careful there was a game between I
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: guess Washington and Atlanta. Desmond Howard returned to punts and
• 47:59
  Speaker 15: then on the immediate you know, the next play, Dion standards.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know.
• 48:06
  Speaker 15: I don't know if anyone pointed that out.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I think it was pointed out on well maybe not
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: on the broadcast, but since then we get like these
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: research notes from the league, and that night it was
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: pointed out.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: And even in my mind, I was thinking, when was the.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Last time they went back to back and I knew
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that Dion Sanders was involved, Uh so I didn't.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: I just thought I was just thinking off the top
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: of my head returns. But if it's a punt.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: It's back to bad.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: But it can only right, well, it can be kickoffs,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: two kickoffs, right, and that I can think of many
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: times where that's happened. But if it's a punt followed
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: by a kick, I don't know two, all right, thanks
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Dan for the I mean they were back to back kickoff.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Returns, yep.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: And I think was involved in those two.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: In a Super Bowl. Yeah, that happened, right, the Giants
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Raven Super Bowl. It happened in a Patriots game. And
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I forget, I forget the details, but I remember Ellis
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: Hobbs was the returner for the Was.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: That the ninety eight yard one? I mean not one
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: hundred and five yard one?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Jets, right, I guess the Jets.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I forget the details of the game. But I
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: was just doing some research on this for some of
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: the we were looking for the old photos for you know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: the games for the Game Day magazine, and I was like, oh,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember this. I was going back researching.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: I was like, they returned a kick for a touchdown
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: and then Ellis Hobbs returned the kick right back for
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: a touchdown.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: But if it's a punt followed by a kick, I
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: don't that one I remember? Is Lucky?
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: So Connecticut? What's up? Lucky Lucky?
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: Going on? Fred? How you doing?
• 49:46
  Speaker 12: How you've been?
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good?
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Is this lucky?
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Yes? It's lucky? It says it right, there, remember Lucky, Yeah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: we used to always play the Napoleon Dynamite Lucky. Where
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: you've been, Matt Mattison and you.
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: Know the military. That's all I.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Do is work, Okay, thank you for your service.
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't listen, but I'm happy because you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: this is my birthday. We actually today's my birthday and
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: the Patriots gave me a great gift because happy birthday.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: Thank you. I appreciate it. You have to deal with
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: a Patriots loss, so I'm ecstatic about that. What do
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: you think is uh for the next outcome of the
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: next couple of games? What do you think the record
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: is going to be for the next four games?
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: The Patriots have a three game road trip right after
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: this Pittsburgh game, right, I have that right correct?
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: To get the Buffalo Sunday night game. That's gonna be tough.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: What's after Buffalo?
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: I can't remember.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Carolina is one of them.
• 50:52
  Speaker 16: I can't remember Carolina, Buffalo, Tennesseeis Pittsburgh, Carolina, Buffalo, nor
• 51:04
  Speaker 16: Tennessee Cleveland in those four games.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: I like to be Carolina and Tennessee.
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Pittsburgh for me is a little bit
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: of a wild card. I'd make that one a little
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: bit more possible to lose to that one. But I
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: could see three in one of.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: These games, in my view, will still be US two
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: and two.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: In my view, all.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: These games are They're just they're like toss ups. I
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: could see. I can make an argument.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Strongly either way. They can win. They can absolutely be Pittsburgh.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: They can absolutely win this game, especially if the Steelers
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: defense continues to sort of struggle like it has out
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: of the gate.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Crazy, Lucky, It's good to hear from you.
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: Yes, good, good to hear from you guys, And you
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: guys take care all right. Hopefully we have a great
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: Patriots season. I'm not looking for you know, the playoffs whatever,
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: I'm just looking for improvement for this year and then
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: next year we'll talk about going all the way.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, gotcha, all right.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Enjoy your birthday, Lucky, Thank you, Lucky, Lucky.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you man. Was that so hard? Thank you?
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: Looky, Steelers defense might be the only defense it's been
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: worse than the Patriots in Miami. They they've given up
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: big plays at a crazy raid. They're five Pro Bowlers
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: on that defense and they can't get stop. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Hopefully not to get right weekend for them.
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: I also say, though, like even though I think we
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: all would give Buffalo the edge in a couple of weeks,
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: just to see them go up there again on the
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: heels of going down to Miami.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You know, what does it look like up there?
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: How are they able to go on to another really
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: tough place, tough divisional road game, and what do they
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: got to throw at Josh Allen?
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: It would be pretty cool if I mean getting ahead
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: of ourselves. But I think Pittsburgh and Carolina are a
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: winnable game. And if you if you take care of
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: business and you go to Buffalo three and one, and
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: that's like an actual game.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: And the game for the a f C weeks, you
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: should be looking at those terms. Yeah, that should be
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: what what you're thinking. Not you know, Oh, if everything
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: goes hopefully, when you start with three home games in
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: the first four weeks, you should get off to a
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: good start.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Be great for the NFL.
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, then how to market that Buffalo everywhere in
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: their rivalry uniforms.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: It'll be lots.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan of the whole Well, everybody
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: thought they were going to beat the Raiders and one
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: what well, did everybody know in Miami was gonna look
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: like this before the season started?
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Like this bad? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: everybody thought it was going to be like they're gonna
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: be the worst team in football in the first two
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: weeks of the season, and that's what they've been.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Elfram Wisconsin says, Fred yelled at me last week. But
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: that's what I get for channeling my inner Andy and
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: taking Fred's argument to the theater of the absurd. Now
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: allow me to steal another Andy take. It's Chise time.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I think I'm all set on the pop Douglas run and.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: Didn't play It's pit fifteen snaps.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: So this is another one. Mike and I want to
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: credit our great listeners on Sundays, you guys missed out
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: on a lot of insightful stuff and pre and post game.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Show actually covering the game.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm just kidding, no, but someone someone wrote in
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: and suggested that maybe we see a slight change and
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: lean more toward Hollins than Douglas. And you know, initially
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: you're like, well that doesn't really make sense, but I did,
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: you know, give the guy his props by you know,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: like they used Hollands a lot in the slot. He's
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: a versatile guy, even though he doesn't look like a
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: slot receiver because he's so big. They wanted to run
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: the ball at the beginning of the game. Hollins gives
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: them obviously another blocker. Have you liked that stuff? You're
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: a ball mower. I'll get to receivers receivers as blockers.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: And just how they said how they were able to
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: use Hollands in the run game, kind of motioning out
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: from the outside, coming out slamming on a run. It
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: perfectly sets up the first touchdown, like you just same
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: look you come down and all of a sudden, it
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: makes it look like he's kind of come down to
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: block again and he's wide open coming out. So the
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: emailer suggested that slight change. And then you look at
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: the end of the game, Douglas really wasn't a factor.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: He only played what was it, fifteen snaps. He barely played.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think Douglas did anything wrong in the game,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: but he wasn't Obviously a big part of the game plan.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Hollins was very good. Yeah, so they've been using Hollins.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: Just so you know, Mike and I got this off
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: of the television.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, So they've been using Hollins as a sniffer in
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: the sniffer role, So right in the sea gap, right behind.
• 55:22
  Speaker 17: How sniff right right off, right off the hip of
• 55:29
  Speaker 17: Eric was a k sniffer, right off the hip of
• 55:32
  Speaker 17: the tackle.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: I'm just going to keep right right off the hip
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: of the tackle. And what they've been doing is they
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: have been inserting him up to the second level on duo,
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: so they had the double teams on the inside. He's
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: been kicking out the linebacker up on the second level.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: And so to Paul's point, on the touchdown play, they
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: have him sniff, you have him go up like he's
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: going to block, and then they boot, and then they
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: sneak him out on the corner and the whole defense
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: is reacting like it's a run play and they all
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: get sucked in by the sniffer and then Holland sneaks
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: out on the corner and is, you know, wide open
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: for the touchdown. So that's that's an in vogue thing
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: I would say in the NFL. I probably give the
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: credit to Sean McVay. He's kind of the first guy
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: that started doing that with Cooper Cup and Pooka. They
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: do that a ton. But now all of these teams
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: that are are majoring in outside zone and duo are
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: using the receivers like that as you know, inserts to
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: the to the second level in the blocking scheme. So
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: it's a big part of it. And then you can
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: sell it, you sell play action And I was actually
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: talking to Julian Edelman about this, like you can actually
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: set up the pass with the run blocking as the
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: receiver too, because if you come hard out of the
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: gate on the blocks and then you do that every
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: single time, well now they don't know if it's a
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: runner or a pass, and so when it ends up
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: being play action pass, like they're a false stepping up
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: toward is the line of scrimmage thinking it's run, and
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: then you can use the same sort of formation, same alignment,
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: and you know, same you know, a couple of initial
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: movements to get open. So they've been doing that a
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: lot more with Hollins, and I would fully expect that
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: to continue. I mean, it's been pretty useful for them.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: All right, Collins in Kansas City, Fred missed you at
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: the start Sunday, first win in Miami since twenty nineteen.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: We finally broke the schnide vers Tua. Not perfect, sure,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: but when it's third and twenty four and the third
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and Drake Evate's pressure to drop a fifty five yard
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: dime to Stevenson, that's a pulse.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: That's hope. Then third and what I don't think it
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: was third? Four?
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Third and fourth?
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then in the a little bit of a difference, yeah,
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Then in the fourth we get a kick return touchdown,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: a pick and a sack, exactly the kind of place
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: we've been begging for. What do Pauline induce? Do toss
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: the wet blanket on the whole thing? Fellas, come on,
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: we get it. Improvements needed, bah blah blah, but we won.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: That's ridiculous reading because that I'm angry that that's this
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: email is angering me. I know that's that didn't happen.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: It's the absolute opposite. We were actually chastising the listeners
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: who are calling in with that kind of talk, and
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: we were saying, today is not the day for that. Okay,
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: So if you can't listen, that's a problem. Problem, he says, Dude,
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not here to talk about anything negative about that game,
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: not this week.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Dude, is embrace your fan side for once.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: I'm believable.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: It's got to be if we're telling Duce to embrace
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: his fans side, then.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Also receipts check.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Fred guaranteed the win and only one to nail thirty points, Paul. Meanwhile,
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: if they score thirty, it's a blowout. No way, it's close.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Uh nailed that one. Maybe slam a couple celsius next.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Time and leave the e or act at home.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Was that the calling in Kansas City.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: The only thing that was true about that is I
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: thought that the Patriots are win by two scores instead
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: of one. It's the only true part of that that
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: that happened. Everything else is exactly the opposite of what
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: the postgame show was. Mike and I were like pants
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: off for like the first hour of the show, like
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: they finally won down in Miami. They finally did all
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: the things that he just explained, although he just created
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: a third and twenty four that didn't exist. All the
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: things to win the game at the end of the game,
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: all the plays that the Patriots made, that's what we accentuated,
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: not the mistakes that they made during the game. We
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: accentuated Milton Williams coming up with a huge sack at
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: the end of the game, Mike talking about the differences
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: offensively in the second half, and they were able to
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: get up off the mat and make that play to
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: Vermarder Stevens because you were a little bit concerned. Remember
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: when they come out three and out the first drive
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: of the second half, and they were basically at play
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: from doing it again, or at least having a punt
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: if they had gotten a first down before that. So
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I can't help you if you can't listen incomprehend The
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: only thing I thought. I thought that if the Patriots
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: scored thirty points would be a two score game. I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: didn't really score thirty points, but I thought it would
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: be a two score game.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I was wrong.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, Costello says, not you guys, But I've heard many
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: complaints about the win. Even during the Empire, going to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Miami was hard and weird. They got out with a win.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: This team doesn't win anymore. Please be happy or don't whatever.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: I agree with that. There were a lot of people
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: calling in, especially in the second hour of the postgame show,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: talking about all the things that went wrong, and I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: think Mike and I were telling people. I mean, Mike
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: jump in here. No, you're right, I mean like I'm
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: just being overly defensive.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: No, And I just I found this energizing and like
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: I have to be happy.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Like, look, I'm going to react the way I want
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to react.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: And I know I'm a fan guy, but like to me,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: when I was excited to see this game, I went
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: back yesterday. I was energized to go back and look
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: at what was wrong because it feels like it's worth
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: it to try to fix it, and to look at
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: the things and say, there's something here. What are the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: things we need to correct instead of just sitting there
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: saying over and over how great Drake May was great.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: Drake May was great, he was his best game. What
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: are we going to say for the next two and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: a half hours of the show.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: So if I was going to like fast forward to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: like a month from now, if we're still playing the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: same kinds of games, I would say, let's count up
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: all the things that we thought were great. Okay, Drake
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: May will start. Evan spent ten minutes talking about the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: different things that Josh McDaniels did in Week two over
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: Week one, monre Right, Ramandre Stevenson was a man possessed.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Milton Williams has been almost unblockable at times, especially with
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: the game on the line. Harold Landry has three and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: a half sacks. Patriots have nine sacks, leading the league
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: through two weeks. And they won because the guy stepped
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: out of bounds with a minute left. So if you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: want to get negative, you could do that. You needed
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: all these great things to happen, and you still were
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: blade of grass away from losing. So that, I guess,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: is what you're looking for. The fans that are saying
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: that we're ignoring the bad stuff, I'm not ignoring them
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: that stuff. Twelve penalties is entirely too many, too many
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: penalties most of the league, right, But they're protecting the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: football and they took advantage of the other team's mistakes
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: to make the plays when the game was on the line.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: I'm going to treat that as enormous progress. From week one,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: forget about the last two years.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: From week one, the Raiders did a million things wrong
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: to sabotage themselves in the game, and the Patriots couldn't
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: take advantage of it.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: This week they did.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: I just wonder, like just watching teams and games around
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: the league. I get that we've seen kind of two
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: different games, either rock fights where the Patriots win thirteen
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: to six or blowouts where the Patriots lose.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: Like that, that's a good point.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Those are the two types of game games that we see.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: But most of the rest of the league plays games
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: like we saw on Sunday, where it's back and forth
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter and the end of the game
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: kind of decides.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: You went, like the Broncos and Colts, you watch any
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: of that, A little talk about a roller cards you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: were traveling, Yeah, talk about the roller coaster.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: Right, these those types of games, this is the type
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: of game that teams usually play. So yeah, like in
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: those types of games, there's gonna be mistakes and then
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: there's gonna be good things. And we talked a lot
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: about the defense, which I think has a lot of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: concerns right now about the past defense. But at the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: same time, like you could say, you know that about
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of games this week that teams gave up
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: a lot of yards and then clamp down in the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter and ended up winning games. So this is
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: what it looks like when you actually like get into
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: a fight with somebody and you punch back and there's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: a back and forth throughout the course of the game.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: That's it. To me, It's like it wasn't perfect, but
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: for once you punched back and you punched last, you know,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: And that's to me what that was my big takeaway
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: from the game on Sunday. That's why I get kind
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: of annoyed. I get that a lot, Like the whole
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: EA thing. I get it, Like, my job isn't to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: do you what you're doing. My job isn't to be
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: a fan. My job is to analyze the game. But
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: on Sunday, Mike and I were really upbeat because for
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: once the narrative changed and to be like characterized like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: we were dumping all over the wind like we were
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Mike and Tony, it's just not It's just really not
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: what happened.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Uh, Mark and Shadow says cat Coverage. Nope, I know
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: Evan is a ball noer, and I am most certainly not.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I also learn a lot from Evan on how plays
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: are built and what they're trying to do. However, however,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Cat Coverage, every time he uses the phrase, I hear
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Andy Hart in my head going hard.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Oh just call it, man to man.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: I'm just quoting the head coach.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: So that yeah, that's that's Mike Rados quote from his
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: introductory Prescott quick over under game based on the.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Performance so far for the season, Landry sacks thirty four,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: here's three and a half sacks under under Stevenson, rushing
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: yards five hundred and eighty six point five.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: He's being funny.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: Here is this the same guy that's made front of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: me for palling your cat coverage?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Good email?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: And he goes on like this, Paul's correct, pats picks zero.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: H that is true. I had the Patriots beating the Raiders.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: What about Patriots wins eight and a half over?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: I would say, under stand on nine.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: And Douglas receiving yard's fifty one.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's right about my picks, though my picks around it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: It's not just reserved for the Patriots.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Man lost a little bit.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: I guess I've lost it, you know what I am?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Overall through two weeks seventeen and fifteen, I stink. See
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: it's not that hard. When you make mistakes, you admit
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: you made mistakes. I can't pick a game to save
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: my life right now.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about pop for a second. Yeah, they're
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: talking about Pop.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, can were talking about Pop? Now?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Talking about Pop?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: Now, what's going on there? I have decided, because I've
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: thought a lot about this, of course, I've decided that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: this might be a man versus zone situation. So to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: the first two weeks, the Patriots have seen zone coverage
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: almost eighty four percent of the time. Teams are just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: not playing man to man against them. And we know
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: that Pop not exactly the best guy to settle in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: the zone and he just I well, first of all,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: he's five foot eight, so like that doesn't help.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: But what does that have to do with settling in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: the zone.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: Because it's a small target. You're trying to hit it.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: I know, but like if you find that space then
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Right, but you're trying to hit like a small window
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: in between two zone defenders. And he doesn't have much
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: of a catch radius or much of an ability to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: win the ball at the catch point. I don't think
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: that that's your ideal receiver to cover, you know, to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: target in those situations down the field. If teams start
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: playing more man to man against the Patriots, then I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: think we'll see a lot more effectiveness from Pop Douglas.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: How do you get him to do that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Well, do you think that they'll continue to play zone
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: because of Drake made his legs.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: That's sort of what I'm assuming is happening, is that
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: they want to keep eyes on Drake and then keep
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: them in the pocket and like week one, let make
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: them dice you up right like that, that's the the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: game plan that teams are using. But in this game,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: they kind of anticipated that from Miami, and Josh McDaniels
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: had a lot of really good zone beating concepts ready
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: for that, and all the moving pockets and all that
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: stuff help with that too. And so now if that's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: the way the Patriots are gonna pivot, you know, the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: defenses then pivot back and that would start playing more
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: man to man. So I wonder how much of it,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: you know. I think the run game stuff is a big,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: big part of it as well. I'd say that's probably
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: seventy five percent of it. Is Hollins is just a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: better run blocker, and they need is run blocking to
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: get some of these runs going. But I also think
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: that teams are going to play zone against the Patriots.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: I just don't know if if Pop Douglas is the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: answer for that versus.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: While we're talking about Douglas. What about Kyle Williams.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: I know what you're doing over there. What did I do?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: I let it go? What did I do? I let
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: it go?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: What about Kyle willast put your thoughts on pot was
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: asking that's what it's time for a change.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not having Katie for the CHI if that's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: what you're implying.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: I just don't know what chis solves. Like I understand
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: that people are disappointed production, but I just don't know,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: Like chisshm skill set, I don't know if it's necessarily better.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: And I would just say through two games, and it's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: a small sample, it's only two games, they've really only
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: generally used three receivers that have been a part of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: the plan. There's been two active receivers both weeks that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: really were very bit, very much big players at most.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: I mean Kyle Williams hasn't really been involved either week right,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: And I would say Mac Collins wasn't really involved in
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: week one, and Douglas wasn't really involved in Week two.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: They played some snacks, but they really weren't involved the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: way it looked, wasn't really involved in this game. No
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: early had the touchdown. Yeah, it was, I mean great.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: The way it started out, it looked like vintage Brady
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: game where everybody was going to get touches.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: You know, they were distributing.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: It all over. Had one, you know, one big play
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: to Hooper, one big play to Booty, a big four
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: thound digs don't touching the boat, the running backs were involved.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: You had the wheel route down the sideline to Henderson.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess my follow up to Evans
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: thing was just be if Drake continues to demonstrate high
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: efficiency hitting plays, hitting downfield plays, does that eventually forced
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: teams to get out of that a little bit and say,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: you know, look, we're gonna have to man some of
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: these guys up. And I think it's force him to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: make some throws.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: The zone coverage to me, like the boots are the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: kryptonite because when you change the boots get you have
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: eyes right like your eyes are in the backfield, so
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: then when you're booting like they have to be able
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: to react to the zone coverage. Like the zones it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: pulling the guys out of their areas of the zone.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: Then you change the point of attack on them, so
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: that ability to boot I think is a big part
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: of attacking some of those you know, zone structures, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: then you can get the deep part of the field flooded.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: Uh It just I just don't look at Pop Douglas
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: as the type of guy that is built for that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: kind of offense. Like you look at like the receiver
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: is that the Packers and the Niners and the Rams,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: like they're all like Pukin Nikua's They're all six one six',
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: two good, size, physical can run block. Like they're all
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: kind of that package of, receiver and he's just not.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: That so like when they get into third down and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: when they get into teams that play more man, Like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: pittsburgh plays a lot more man, LIKE i think you'll
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: see More. Pop but until, THEN i don't know if you.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Will Uh ted And vegas says The. Patriots he has
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: a slight correction For. Paul The patriots went for two
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: points after the third touchdown only because they missed the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: first two extra.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: Points.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Correct if you give The patriots those first two extra,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: points then you can only give them one.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: Point that's WHY i said twenty four points instead of twenty,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: three LIKE i. DID i, right they got one of
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: them back for the two point. Conversion, YEAH i would
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: say they wouldn't have gone for two had they made two.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: Kicks that's WHY i said twenty, four, Right, DENNISON i
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: mean it's it's not really worth getting.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Into Its.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: Travis And West virginia, says was that the first time
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: in the history of mankind that a coach ran down the?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Sideline or is everyone just over hyping?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: It that's pretty. GOOD i think it was more of the.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Picture this is the.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Picture, yeah by the, way Was David silverman or one
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: of our team photographers.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: That Like John harbaugh doesn't, matter or Say Mike, Tomlin Mike.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: Tomlin would stick his Leg.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Campbell did, that AND i wonder how we would have.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: Reacted it was funny that that coach THAT i know
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: that lives in, town he he sent me that picture
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: and he broke down Like rabels knee rays and, said
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: like he still got, it knock a little power in
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: his butt probably, now but that he's still got the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: explode like he you, know broke all his like running
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: technique down for.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: Me so.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Back back to the calls in a.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Second, daniel, though Says raiders game was an absurd amount
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: of blitzing And dolphins game seemed like zero, blitzing just
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: straight four man. RUSHES i haven't looked at any numbers
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: to back that, up but it seems like there needs
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: to be some kind of deception or disguise with these pass.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Rushes Lucky milton could just take over on a one on.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: One they only blitzed TO a, once AND i would
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: not blitz to, It, LIKE i don't understand why you,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: would like his release is so. Quick they have just
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: incredibly good, Playmakers LIKE i don't, know you're playing with
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: fire if you start blitzing a guy like TO. A
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: it's not WHAT i would. Advise SO i totally understand
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: why they didn't blitz them and they backed.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: Off so that's what's kind of remarkable to me is
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: we didn't know what this defense was going to.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Be we asked these guys a lot about what their scheme.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: Is we're used To Bill belichick and Jirob meo kind
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: of being game plan, defenses and you, know as we've,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: seen you're starting to get some data for the sample
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: size to see exactly what these guys are going to.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: Do AND i, mean the coverage was totally flipped from
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: week one to week two AND i think that this
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: team is going to be a little bit more game
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 7: planning then maybe we expect.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: That, YEAH i figured they would be game planning because That's.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: VRABEL i would think he would go to his roots
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: and what he's sort of comfortable. With BUT i understand
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: What evan's, saying AND i agree with, him, like you
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: don't want to make a, living you, know recklessly Blitzing.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: Miami BUT i don't necessarily think it has to be
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: an all or nothing. THING i thought they let him
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: get too comfortable there and that portion of the, game
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: and Fortunately miami kept shooting itself in the foot in
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: the second. Half they would move the ball into scoring
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: position and get stupid, penalties and they got down inside the,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: ten they got a call back for a, hold they
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: got to like one of those illegal shifts that everyone
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: always talks about with the guys going toward the line of,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: scrimmage negated another. Play THOUGH i talked about the last
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: two drives where they got the back to back fall
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: start delay a, game you, know. Penalties, OTHERWISE i think
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: you would have been hard pressed to come up with.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: STOPS i think you needed to do something different to
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: get him. Uncomfortable he went Throw when we talked About
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: drake may with were in completions, too only had Six,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: WELL i mean.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah they they threw him off with the coverage a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: couple of times late in the. Game BUT i just
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: with his release and how fast they're playmakers are doing
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: a Lot like if you blitz him and he Hits
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: Waddler hill on the, move was, like.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: What are you doing?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: Right it's a seventy five yard touchdown real. Quick SO
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: i would you just got to be really careful with.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: THAT i, mean despite what's going on In miami right,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: now that offense has shown in the past to be
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: as explosive as any in THE nfl when they're, Right
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: so you have to be.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Careful you, KNOW i would not. Advocate i'm not arguing
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: With evan at. All Believe evan's. RIGHT i would not.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: Advocate you, know sixty percent blitz rate On. TUA i
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: don't think you'd live to tell about.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: That zach's In.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Utah, Hey, Zach, Hey, hello is that we're?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 9: Doing?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 14: OKAY i was just calling Because i'm excited for the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 14: it's nineteen and one season to.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 18: Have and ALSO i just want to have a.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 14: Question why do you think we uh ran or ran
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 14: two passes during that like the second to last pride
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 14: we had instead of just running it three.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: Times, YEAH i, mean it's the simple answer is they're
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: trying to get to end the. Game they're trying to
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: get a first down to end the, game and the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: best way to get a first down in that situation
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: is to throw the. Ball AND i have no problem
• 1:15:32
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  Speaker 5: played it a little bit, better may have gotten away
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  Speaker 5: with a little tug and was in good, position so
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  Speaker 5: there was no real window for him to complete the
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  Speaker 5: pass rather than throw it out in front of him
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  Speaker 5: for an incomplete. Pass i'm just wondering if maybe there's
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  Speaker 5: a conversation. There don't throw it away either, run try
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  Speaker 5: to make a play with your, legs or take a,
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  Speaker 5: sack which is going to Force miami to use that
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  Speaker 5: timeout that they ended up. Saving BUT i don't have
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  Speaker 5: any problem with throwing the. Ball then they throw it
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  Speaker 5: on third. Down now third and, eight you have to throw.
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  Speaker 5: safe pass picks up six yards fourth and. Two no
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  Speaker 5: doubt in my mind they were going for, it. RIGHT i,
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  Speaker 5: trying to draw them off side When Morgan moses committed
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  Speaker 5: the false. Start so here's WHAT i want to ask you.
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  Speaker 5: Guys so now it's fourth and, seven after the false,
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  Speaker 5: start they chose to kick the fifty three yard field.
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  Speaker 5: GOAL i would have gone for. IT i felt like
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  Speaker 5: the risk reward, there the risk of him missing the
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  Speaker 5: field goal was far greater to me than the reward
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  Speaker 5: of him making the field, goal which didn't, really in my,
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  Speaker 5: view impact the game all that. Much, now the touchdown beat. You,
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  Speaker 5: Touchdown they're not playing for the field goal to tie.
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  Speaker 5: It as it turned, out they went right down the.
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  Speaker 5: Field time was not a factor at. All they had
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  Speaker 5: good thing you kicked the field, goal because they would
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  Speaker 5: HOWEVER i think that the risk of losing the game
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  Speaker 5: it were, ME i would have gone for fourth and
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  Speaker 5: it was a bad move to kick a field, goal
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  Speaker 5: a fifty three yard field. Goal you need to be
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  Speaker 5: able to attempt you can't, say, OH i can't do
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  Speaker 22: Everything go with the operation, defensively you And zach working together, Yesterday.
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  Speaker 23: Them some of the situational coaching calls love to just
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  Speaker 21: OH i think maybe had the game been, down.
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  Speaker 10: The time would have been.
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  Speaker 21: LESS i think maybe you could could have discussed a
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  Speaker 21: lines you, know twelve yard line is going to really
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  Speaker 21: force them to to have to score a touchdown and
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  Speaker 22: you go through.
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  Speaker 22: Game it doesn't feel like it's black or white for,
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• 1:25:28
  Speaker 22: the fourth down. EARLY i was wondering fourth and four
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  Speaker 22: late in the second quarter to think at all about.
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  Speaker 10: It and going. ON i just wanted to get some points.
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  Speaker 21: There just felt like points was was important there and
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  Speaker 21: coming away with.
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  Speaker 21: through and through and again get him jump, started knowing
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  Speaker 21: that we're going to need, him uh in this. Game but,
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  Speaker 21: also you, know fourth and four on the four gets
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  Speaker 21: to be a little, dicey you. KNOW i mean it's
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  Speaker 21: not really a fifty to fifty proposition, There so.
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  Speaker 10: Love the execution on a two point.
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  Speaker 21: Conversion love the you, know wanted to be decisive and,
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  Speaker 21: aggressive AND i felt like we were early. On you
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  Speaker 21: could see the ball coming out on fourth and three And,
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  Speaker 21: digsie you, know being able to snap, down get it
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  Speaker 21: whatever the situation called. For so there's a lot of
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  Speaker 21: really good examples of us doing.
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  Speaker 24: That Coach, Hunter henry is outfit all the, time as
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  Speaker 21: Consistent you can always any adjustments or tweaks that you
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  Speaker 21: able to. HANDLE i think you see those things and
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  Speaker 10: the end zone or down to the red.
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  Speaker 21: Zone so again he provides leadership and there's a very
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  Speaker 17: Him, Right you've had tackling issues the first two couple of,
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  Speaker 21: I, mean it's it's always you, know PHYSICAL i think
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• 1:28:42
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  Speaker 5: Around we love.
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  Speaker 4: You don't let these wannabes drag you. Down And fred
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  Speaker 4: please bring back three points By parlos film those in
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: the stands sometimes.
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  Speaker 5: THREE i had all kinds of see you you. Two
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  Speaker 5: you don't, know you know, someday Someday i'll tell you
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: how IMPORTANT i used to be back in the early
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: video days of The.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Internet it's like in the at Old Foxborough. Stadium you
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  Speaker 1: were on the benches started it.
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  Speaker 6: Started did you sit on the benches in the old
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  Speaker 6: started with five?
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  Speaker 5: Points real money. Points budget cuts me to.
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  Speaker 1: Three now you just get one point if you're.
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  Speaker 5: Lucky now we don't make any. Points back to the.
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  Speaker 4: Phones eight five, five pass five. Hundred let's go To
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: eldred In North. Carolina, Hey, eldred blow the.
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  Speaker 8: Horn But i'm standing in the docks and everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Look at me Like i'm.
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  Speaker 4: Great, yeah don't don't we don't want you to do.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: That you're crazy anyway.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Around, yeah good to, win even though it looks looks
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  Speaker 2: WELL i supposed to look. ANYWAY i think everybody come.
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  Speaker 8: Together my question is the. SECONDARY i know we got
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  Speaker 8: rid OF Dj.
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  Speaker 13: James any possibility to try to get somebody.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 8: Else back often got beat like a.
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  Speaker 4: Drune, WELL i think, if, if and When gonzo comes,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: back that's going to Help.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: AUSTIN i, mean let's face, it, right everything trickle.
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  Speaker 5: Slats everybody down on that. Notch but you, know this
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: is one of, them a rarity where we kind of
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: talked back To wummer and you, know we talked about
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: the lack of, depth, right and we would use individual
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: guys like you, know if they were to, lose Like
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: gonzo Or Carlton, davis that would make an. Impact that
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: would be and we've seen. It one guy has really you,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: know hurt the.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: Secondary, YEAH i thought That gonzo is frankly costing himself
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: money by not playing because durability has been the only.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: Question now you come full.
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  Speaker 4: Circle, NOW i think it might.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: Be the thing because, yeah he might legitimately be proving
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: that he's like a Defensive player of The year candidate
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: like he comes.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: Back and they hasn't played. One the defense just.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: Goes from like not being able to stop a single
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: pass to being a very good pass defense. Overnight Because
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: gonzo comes back and all of a, sudden you're going
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: to be, saying, well this guy is one of the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: most valuable defensive players in THE.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: Nfl it'll be funny if it's like If, gonzo if
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: this would be like a like A Bill belichick, thing
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Like gonzo will come back against Like Bryce young and
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: The panthers who are obviously, struggling you, know against, everybody
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: and oh even he locked it, down you, know shut
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: down zaviol. Again let's go take.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: Accent he's gonna brag, actually because his receivers are going.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: Nuts Quinton johnson last.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: Night with the big.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 6: Touchdown dante king k is coming to town this. Week
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Dante thornton looks great with The. Raiders caught a touchdown.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: Guy his guys are popping, Off.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: Taye Kwand thornton looks quasi functional. Functional, yeah, yeah like
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: they're able.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: To use his.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: Talents philip dor, said why weren't they able to use
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: his talents?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: Here oh you tell. ME i don't have the answer to.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: That Pa. Shooter, Well paul three. Touchdowns let's go To
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: sean And.
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  Speaker 4: Virginia what's Up Sean.
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  Speaker 5: Kyle he actually didn't play that coach is pretty.
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  Speaker 12: Good can you got hear?
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  Speaker 1: Me?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay?
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  Speaker 12: Cool. Yeah they don't want to touch on too as.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: Well when it comes to the, DEFENSE i found it
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 12: funny that most people make excuses about one man miss
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 12: is from the, defense which Is, gonzald which is very,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 12: SIGNIFICANT i, understand but there are other teams across the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 12: league THAT i thought that miss you, know, uh three
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 12: or four thirds he, there and they're still able to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 12: reform pretty. WELL i mean The buck four are problems
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 12: there for all that miss like four starts last night
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 12: and the defense still playing played pretty, well SO i
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  Speaker 12: mean they also you're talking about THE i, mean did
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 12: you see The chargers last? NIGHT i LIKE i, said
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 12: like THEY i can play about what The pacers. Is,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 12: yeah they lead the league in, sex but they get
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 12: close to the quarterback like like the prop leaty trying
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 12: to take a, picture but they won't really touch the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 12: quarter but they don't really give it out of the brown
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  Speaker 12: or move the. Spot and then on the other, HAND
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 12: i think he used to Play kyle Wins moore because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 12: if you look at that play With, Hooper hooper was
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 12: open like that Because ky went totally cleared out the
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 12: safety in the. Corner they followed. Him SO i think
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  Speaker 12: used to be on the field. More that's my.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: Take, okay, Yeah Kyle williams on the field.
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  Speaker 6: MORE i Think Kyle williams is doing his. Job Like
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: Kyle williams cleared out coverage a handful of times in this.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: Game he's, right The hooper players was him on the
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: post to clear out the sideline For. HOOPER i think
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  Speaker 6: what we're seeing and the rookie lineman, notwithstanding because those,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: guys we were pretty good at both of them in this.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: Game but like everyone's clamoring to see More Travon. Henderson
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: then he gets out in the, game they play him
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: and he gives up two sacks and gets called for
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: a hold in past. Protection now everybody's clamoring for Where
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: Kyle williams like their, rookies, like let let's let them ease,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: In let's let, them you, know, Learn let's let them
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: get coached. Up Like i'm not saying don't play, them
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: BUT i it's just do you want to rush them
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: into things a little bit too. QUICKLY i think sometimes.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Everybody wants to open all Their christmas presents all at,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: once and sometimes you have to wait a little.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Bit, right we usually wait for breakfast and for.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: Stockings, curiously on the, penalties did you guys get a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: sense in the stadium did it feel like the rest
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: were calling a little bit ticky tak with some of that?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: Stuff they?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Were AND i guess THIS refu was an umpire last,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: year first, time first time as a, ref and they
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  Speaker 4: thought he might have been trying to prove himself a little.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Bit, OKAY i don't.
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  Speaker 5: KNOW i didn't see.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: It there wasn't a lot THAT i saw.
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  Speaker 4: That oh that's a bad carrable kind of alluded to
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: it a little.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: Bit he said That Will campbell didn't move on that
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: false start he. Did, WELL i don't.
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  Speaker 4: KNOW i just heard him say that this ref may
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: have wanted some calls.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: Back so, well maybe that could be. True but SO
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: i heard a lot of that like with the, crew you,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: know me with the, REFS i, HATE i hate them,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: all but hate if it's a new. Ref, Right so
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: he was an uppire last. Year he might have wanted
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: to be like he doesn't make every call, Right like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: there were a lot of penalties in the. Game is
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: it all because it was the first time? Ref did
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: he tell, Everybody, hey this is my second game ever
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: as a. REEF i want you guys thrown a lot of.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: FLAG i. DON'T i don't know if.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: It was like a new crew around him maybe in
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: that and you.
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  Speaker 8: Know how that.
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  Speaker 6: MANIFESTS i think the one thing That i've just noticed
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: that some of the, calls like it's so, borderline like
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: we're right on the, edge and it's, like is this
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: really making these games more? Enjoyable like it's at the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: end of the, day good, day it's an entertainment, product,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: Right like we're all watching it to be all these
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: flags for like these illegal motions and the shifts.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: And the confused on like he looked, like, well.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: You, Know Hunter henry like kind of just repositioned himself
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: and they called that that he was in.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: Motion, YEAH i DON'T i didn't understand that. CALL i
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: didn't like the one it was It Malik washington For
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: miami is just like running in maybe by the letter
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: of the. Law they was like slightly turned his shoulders
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: side to turn up. Field the play goes the other.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: Way LIKE i like last night in That Houston tampa,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: Game houston comes up with a big punt return at
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: the end which set up there go ahead. Touchdown and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: there were, yeah and there were a couple of you,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: know there was one in particular that could have been
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 5: one of those tiki tak blocking the, backs but like
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: they were on the side of caution on those and
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: let them let the players make some, plays you, Know
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: AND i DON'T i don't. Think i'm not suggesting you
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: should let a blatant block in the back. Go that's
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: springs the because it's more exciting to have a big.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: Return BUT i didn't think it was a block in the.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: Back and they kind they threw the, flag they talked about,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: it and they picked it. Up i'm more talking about.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: The pre snap, stuff like all these procedural penalties where
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: it's like an alignment issue or you, know a motion
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: issue or. Whatever and then you chaseam was called for
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: two off sides on, this and you.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: Know they that's one That mike talked. About the coach's.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: Tape is hard to tell because it's not right down the,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: line but the line of scrimmage was the thirty and
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: his hand is not over the Third like he's just
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: not lined up in the neutral?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: Zone does bug me? Too if the guy doesn't jump
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: unless he's blatantly on the other side of the, line
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: can we give a little? Leeway that's What mike talked
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: about that if he, was.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 6: It was an, inch you, know like and then that
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: wipes out an interception that you know would have been
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: a huge.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: Play because that was offsetting, penalties, Right so like it JUST.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: I stared at that for like a good five, minute
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: AND i was, like they call this a neutral zone,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 6: Infraction like he's the finest scrimmage is the. Thirties i'll give.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: You one that happened in The sunday night. Game you
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: talk about these different things the way they're calling. Them
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: The Atlanta minnesota, game guy From minnesota just. JUMPS i
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: think it Was hunter just jumps the snapcount he was blatantly.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: Offside well they let the play. Run the left tackle
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: For atlanta kind of reached out and grabbed his, arm
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: offsetting penalties offside in a. Hold, well the hole doesn't,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: happen but they was going to kill the quarterback like
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: that's supposed to. Be like that whole unabated to the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: quarterback thing, like AND i know that you want to
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: let the play go because it's a free, play but
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: you got to let the holds. Go in that, situation
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: he literally Saved Michael pennix from a big hit by
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: just sort of nudging him out of the way the last.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: SECOND i don't think that should be offsetting. PENALTIES i don't.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: Know All christians IN.
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  Speaker 5: La what do you?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: Think hey you, Guys Happy tuesday to you.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Again great, win three quick, Things, PAUL i think he
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: misunderstood me the other day WHEN i, asked does the
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: kind of wind matter when you're trying to get the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: monkey off your back with a team that you haven't
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: been able to beat for a long. Time do you
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: need to beat them convincingly or is just any kind of?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 13: Win you, know.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: Does that get the monkey off your? Back that's that's one.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: Question, no when's a.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: Win that's HOW i understood. It AND i, said, no
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: it doesn't. Matter you needed to go down there and
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: win whatever way you. Could i'm With, Fred, yeah.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: Okay well you, know in my humble, opinion it feels
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: like that kind of gets you. Passed but to actually
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: get the monkey off your back to feel like we're
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: over the hump with this. Team it feel like you
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: need to beat them at least.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: Once, well you're, wrong But i'm not really concerned about
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: the next TIME i go To miami right right, Now
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: i'm only concerned with the team right, Now.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: Paul AND i, disagree you're.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: Wrong, YEAH i.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 12: Get, you guys are. Right i'm agreed to who's.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: Rawn that's.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Right, second, really the second, thing really quickly is it
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: really did feel like we had a team cohesion. Moment
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: LIKE i know if you guys watched The canelo Versus crawford,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: fight but every Time canelo Hit, Crawford crawford would hit
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: him back. Twice and that's what it felt like with this,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: team AND i haven't seen that in a long time
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: from this from this. Team it really felt like they
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: started to believe in. Themselves and the last POINT i
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: make is WHAT i think most. Happened the most significant
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: THING i been happened this week for the team was
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: that they begin to buy Into vrabel and his way
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: of doing. Things like off season for, months record all
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, matters but when it comes to the,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: season until you put the wins in the, column you
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've got the locker room, yet you
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if guys are buying in, Yet and it
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: seemed like that kind of win can really get guys
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: to buy.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: In, yeah it can.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: Help thanks for the. Call it can, help but you
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: need you need. More it can turn, Quickly, yeah you
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: can turn. QUICKLY i totally agree with.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: The mindset and the confidence that gets built and all that,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: stuff but they're gonna need To, YEAH i think about.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: IT i think the thing that makes you so encouraged,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 6: though from that standpoint is you see week to week. Improvement.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah like AND i don't think we always saw that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: over the last couple of. Years but if you're a
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: player and you can tell Like i'm getting, Better like
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: they're coaching me hard and they're giving me good, corrections
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: AND i can understand the coaching and you, know understand
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: what they're asking me to. Do and then each, week
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 6: Like Jared wilson like goes from five pressures allowed in
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 6: week one to zero yesterday Or, Sunday, like that's that's, improvement.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: Right you know what we need? Now a home? Win,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: oh we need a home.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 7: Win about a home win in some Throwback jersey, yeah
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 7: let's get a home.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: Win, well they're Facing Aaron rodgers who can still sling,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: it but like he's like immobile at this.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: Point you should be able to rack up. MOST i,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: mean you have nine sacks leading the. League that number
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: should Should it was.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: Pretty crazive how his arm has not the client at,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: All like he can still you can still, throw but he.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: CAN'T i don't, KNOW i can't move or it just
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: refuses to and it like sees, ghosts like afraid of.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 6: Pressure it's pressure to sacrates very very.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: High he blits. Them he try to get four.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 6: Man coverage has been like the. Kryptonite but if they
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: don't Have, GONZO i don't know if you're.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: Playing that was The STEELERS o.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Line they've been.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: Bad, david it's PRETTY i think it's pretty. GOOD i
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: think It's. Rogers, yeah he's you just someone just had
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: the sack to the pressure to. Sack, yeah it means
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: every time that they get, pressure he just goes. Down,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: yeah so he's, uh he's been.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: Sacked his pressure to sacrate is over thirty percent to
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: fifth highest in the. League and typically when you see
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 6: really high pressure to sack rates like, that it's either
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: like a statue, quarterback or it's a young quarterback that
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: just is running around and doing dumb. Stuff rogers just
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: he had a third down play last week where he
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: tried to take off and run for the first.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: Down he got.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: Tag, yeah he got killed like he was like four
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: or five yard shore and he just doesn't have his
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: legs are just.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: Gone let's get a home.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: Win let's go To lucas And. May what's Up, Lucas?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 8: Lucas, Hey, YEAH i have a couple of.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 25: Questions one For, eden how does you feel About Marte
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 25: maphu as more of a coverage linebacker where he has
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 25: a safety. Background that's really interested in seeing him in that?
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 25: Position and one more, question why didn't you see more
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 25: Of Stefan. DIGGS i haven't watched the tape, over BUT
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 25: i just didn't see a lot of him out of this,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 25: game AND i was aspecting just a little bit. More,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 25: Yeah i'll hang up and.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: Listen, okay Thanks mapu And.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: Diggs, Yeah, MAPOO i mean the interception was thrown right to,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 6: him So i'm not gonna give him too much credit
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: for literally having the ball thrown right to, him but you,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: know caught the ball right, right like. That that's the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: part of. It he didn't play it on on defense
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: in this. GAME i know you Know ellis had specific.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Question is what do you think of him as a coverage. Linebacker,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: YEAH i love the idea and.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: THEORY i have the.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: IDEA i didn't love the. Performance, yeah BUT i.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: Think with the issues with him has always been eye
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: discipline and reading through plays and understanding you, know pass versus,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: run you, know tells and things like. That so if
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: he can do, that LIKE i have to see, it
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: like he has to play.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: More i'd love to see him get more opportunities if
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: it looks different Than.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Elis you gotta talk about the. Whiff, YEAH i.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: Mean we'd be talking about this play a lot if
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: A chan didn't step out of.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 10: It.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: Right it Was mapu had on the, sideline had him
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: on the, sideline had the sideline as an extra, defender,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: RIGHT i don't think he even got a hand on.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 6: Him, YEAH i, mean not to be fair.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: Dynamic.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: Something, yeah you're gonna have if you're gonna have somebody
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: make you look, bad he's the guy to do.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 8: It.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 7: YEAH i think To evan's point, though like, then theory
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 7: part of, it you have concerned about the linebacker play right,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 7: Now when Does Jelani tavai come, Back, like does he
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: does he offer anything? There you, know Does maphu with
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 7: a little more playing time potentially push for more playing?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: TIME i JUST i really wonder IF i was, in you,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: Know zach kor the inside.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Linebackers coach of what are the?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: Fixses what are you saying to these, Guys like how
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: do you think THEY'RE i, MEAN i think they're both
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 7: better players than they, are and Especially, SPOLENE i think
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 7: he's better than he's shown.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: And how do you get that out of? Him that's
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: a great coaching question right now for.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: Me then the other question About, Diggs SO i, mean
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: should we and will we start seeing more out of.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 6: Him i'm gonna be a little defensive Of diggs BECAUSE
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 6: i think he's been. GREAT i think he's been exactly
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 6: what they needed when it's been a high leverage, situation third,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 6: down fourth. Down they've gone to him twice now in
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: the first two, games and he's converted on both. Plays,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: yeah AND i understand that the volume isn't, there and
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: maybe that is somewhat, concerning BUT i just look at
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: it as he is a professional receiver who runs professional
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: routes and is available to the quarterback quickly on those big.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 6: Plays and you, KNOW i Remember brady used to talk
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: about this With edelman And welker and those. Guys like
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: having that guy that when it's third and sixth that
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: you just know is going to get to the sticks
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: and and get you that first down is just it's.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: Calming it's like a relaxing.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: It, is you.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: Know you, see you Know diggs From buffalo was one
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: player and then he became more of a volume guy
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: before he got hurt last year because you, know they
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: had that big play guy and now it's you're, saying
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: it's just that situational when.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: You got to have it type.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: Play, WELL i think that he was In houston.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: Well but he had a. Volume he was on his
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: way to ono thousand.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: YARDS i, MEAN i don't think the volume has been that.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: Bad always got but the yards per catch is going
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: down even.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Further but this is a six year.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: TREND i, know that's What i'm, saying starting a whittle
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: down and it's.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: Not but like you, said, VOLUME i think the volume is.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: Similar his yards per game have gone down every year
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: for like the last they had the graphic during the
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: game ON. CBS i think people are still thinking of
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 5: him as like the fifteen hundred yard dynamic receiver who
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: first got To. Buffalo he wasn't that when he Left. Buffalo,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: YEAH i still certainly wasn't that In. HOUSTON i agree.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: Everything you're, saying BUT i do think THAT i think
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: his production should go up.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: With i'm With. EVAN i think he's been. TERRIFIC i
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: think every time that they've asked him to do, something
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: he's done. It, Yeah i'm talking about on the. Field
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: i'm not talking about off the. Field i'm saying when
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: they've called on his, efficiency you, know when targeted and
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: catch it like it's it's really.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: Hot i'd like to see him featured a little bit.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: Again they only threw the ball twenty three times in
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: THIS i, KNOW i, KNOW i do think that he you,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: know the play late in the. GAME i thought That
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: drake was right where he threw the ball and they
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: should have settled that that route There and Did drake,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: though say.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: That's on, me, yes WHICH i think is a really good.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: Move but either, way like, those it doesn't matter who it's. On,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: ULTIMATELY i like that's that's reps like that's.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: That's kind of What i'm talking.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: ABOUT i think as you get more of, THAT i
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna see his production go.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: Up.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: YEAH i wouldn't be a.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: Surprised and To paul's.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 7: POINT i don't know if it's ever gonna go back
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 7: to what it once. Was BUT i agree with, You,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 7: FRED i, think, look guy's coming off IN. Acl this
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 7: is traditionally an injury takes a little.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: Tis.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: No, no, WAIT i didn't say he's never going to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: have a good get like a big, Game no, No
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: But i'm just saying he's never going to be that.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Receiver he's never going to be.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: Over ten yards of catch like for for another. Season
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: like that's he's trending the other, Way like it's gone
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: from like fourteen yards of catch to like nine yards a.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: Catch he's not going to just spike back up to
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: thirteen yards of. Catch will he have a game that
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: he gets like eight for one hundred and, Ten, yeah,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 5: Probably BUT i don't think he's going to be that
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 5: guy for the rest of the. SEASON i. AGREE i
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: just don't NEED i Think. FRED i Think fred thinks
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: that's going to.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: HAPPEN i just don't need him to be LIKE i
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: think why they signed him was when it's third and
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: got to have, it let's have a got to have it,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: Receiver and so FAR i think he's stepped up in
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: those situations like that fourth down, play got the whole
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: game going for the. Offense, Yep.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Let's go To chris And. Orlando Hey, Chris.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 24: Hey, guys what's going? ON i missed the post game,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 24: show SO i had to make up board on the
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 24: on the on the, show HERE.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 12: I.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 13: GOT i got one.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 24: Thing me And paul were talking about the safety play
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 24: out Of. Hawkins two. Things, actually the safety play out
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 24: Of HAWKINS i thought was. Better he was he looked
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 24: not as positioning as, much had an interception taken away
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 24: on a, penalty and then wanted to talk extras and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 24: nose With. Eavan SO i saw a video breakdown of
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 24: The jets and The seahawks both exploiting their man coverage.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 24: Shed The steelers come out WITH i don't know if
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 24: you've seen, this the condensed. Set they came out single
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 24: or two, wings two off set receivers in the slot
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 24: and opposite, side and ran crossing routes to attack like
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 24: the single height.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 13: Safety did they run a.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 24: Lot they both ended up scoring touchdowns on. That you
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 24: should take a look at that and see if The
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 24: patriots piggyback on that try to exploit a lot of
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 24: the single phi man.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: Coverage, yeah so The jets and The, Steelers jets and The.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 6: Seahawks excuse, me he's talking about This, delers. Right The
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: jets and The seahawks scored the same touchdown on the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 6: same play in weeks, one week. Two yankee. Concepts so
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: you have the deep over with the post intersecting and
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 6: it would just like you, said single high safety in
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: the deep part of the. Field The, JETS i think
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: it was like a thirty ish yard, touchdown and then
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: The STEELERS i think was a twenty one yard touchdown
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: on literally the exact same play called The yankee. Concept
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: that what it's, CALLED i couldn't tell, you but.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: We need to know the.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Entomology, Okay i'll look it.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: Up i'll tell you. Tomorrow all, Right, yeah but that
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 6: same exact.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: Thing we can just throw it, out but we need
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: to know why it's Called yankee.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: Concept you, CAN'T i. CAN'T i.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: CAN'T i don't throw it, out but you said anybody
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: can throw it.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: Out that's, right BUT i.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: Can't, Yeah i'm. Somebody, yeah it was the same play at. Homology, please,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: good good?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: Word DID i get that? RIGHT i don't.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: Know i'm going to give you.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Credit that's straation.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 7: Right last WEEK i had to google sistration and results
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 7: and reference to a muscle on this.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 8: Correct.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: Good colin's In, Virginia Hey, Colin, Hey.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 18: Uh missed the earlier part of the, Show So i'm
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 18: not really sure if you guys covered it, already.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: But how we did a quick little question About.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 18: Henderson possibly you guys cover a lot in a quick Stand,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 18: uh but what? What what were you guys' thoughts on
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 18: all the holding penalties From? Henderson it seemed kind of
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 18: unluck him and were it was it just him getting
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 18: blown by a little bit quicker than he, thought or
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 18: if it seemed like just maybe some.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 8: Nerves it's a good.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: Question it's a good question because that you, know he's
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: known for his. Blocking do you think that they saw
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: a weakness in him and they were exploiting it a
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: little bit and he had to Reach.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: Uh, NO i don't know if it was like exploiting a,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 6: Weakness But i've just noticed that he's been really over,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 6: aggressive and you, know he's been kind of just getting.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: Overextended and then one of the holes that write up
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: THE a, gap he just tackled the guy in the
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 6: in THE a, gap so that was a blatant. Hold
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: and then he gave up a sack where he actually
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 6: picked up the guy but just got Beat and then
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: there was another play where they gave up a sack
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 6: where it kind of looked like he was supposed to
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: block the guy and he didn't block the. Guy so right,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 6: NOW i think it's probably, mental like there's, something you,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: know he's still trying to learn to learn the. SYSTEM
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: i don't know for a, fact AND i know we
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 6: only have five minutes, ago So i'm not going to
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: get two in the. Weeds BUT i don't know for
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: a fact if they still dual. Read but typically In
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: josh mcdaniels's, offense the backs are dual, reading so they
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: are reading off of two different guys and then they
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: take the closest threat to the quarterback off the dual.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 6: Read so that's extremely, Complex like that's a high degree
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: difficulty in terms of the, processing and my guess is
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: that that's what's leading to the technique. Breakdowns is because
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: of the mental St.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: Okay matthew And arizona in the Post brady.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: Era the offensive adjustment Between week one against The raiders
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: In week two against The dolphins is the Best i've
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: seen since he's been, Here Since brady's been. Here other,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: times this dramatic shift wasn't possible due to lack of
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: talent with THE qb or offensive coordinator to make such.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: Adjustments patrician AND avp lacked the. EXPERIENCE i would argue
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: that if McDaniels had, Stayed jones would have still hit
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: his ceiling and gutten happy. FEET i don't know how
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: those twos things relate to each, other but, Anyway.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: Jones did hit his. Ceiling you think he did. HERE
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: i don't think he's that, Good, OKAY i think he
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: hit his. CEILING i think he's getting everything he has
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: out of the ability that he. HAS i don't think
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: it's like all about the. COACHING i Think josh McDaniel's
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: got everything you could get out Of Mac, Jones.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Rookie Mcjew i'm just.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 6: Interested IS i think that's his? Ceiling if they stick with,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 6: this what we saw On sunday is that like now
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 6: their base, offense or next, week are they gonna, say,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 6: well we're playing The steelers this week and we're just
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 6: something totally, different BECAUSE i just don't know if they're
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: ready for that, Yet like they might need to be
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: able to execute like a base before we start to
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 6: go game plan morphing week to.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: Week and we'll, definitely like you just said this four
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: minutes left in the, Show now we'll get To. Pittsburgh
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: you know, that we'll turn the page. Tomorrow but the thing.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 6: Is LIKE.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: I love everything that they did offensively in this. Game
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: it's one of the best offensive games they've had in
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: a long. Time can you play like that all the?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: Time can you run the? Ball and we're just gonna
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: come out run the ball the first three plays of the.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: Game we're gonna get a first. Down you're not going
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: to stop. Us and then we're, gonna you, know start
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: doing some under, center you, know stretch play action boots
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: and we're gonna do everything that we want to. Do
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: or is someone going to stop you from doing some
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: of those? Things? Right? Like are we gonna be able
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: to throw the ball twenty three times and score twenty
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: four points every? Week maybe? Not you, know was the
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: quarterback going to complete ninety percent of his throwers every.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: Game probably not like these are things that we're going
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: to find out as they game plan for other. Times
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: so what the other teams take?
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Away, Sure joe writes in and he SAYS i wrote
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: last week asking if we could save the sky is
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: falling talk For. October that was a genuine, request not
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: a critique of the. Show, Still fred's prediction felt a
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: little break glass in case of, emergency and After tuesday's,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: EPISODE i was left wondering If atlas was Okay based
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: on How evan sounded as a seventeen year, LISTENER i
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: ended up feeling pretty. Validated not only Did paul tear
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: my take to, shreds fred jumped in.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: Two it was.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: Glorious the only way it could have been better is
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: If freddy had taken a shot at my flat brim.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: Cap by the, way flat brims aren't going. Away they've
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: been popular for like thirty.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 6: Years so the sky is following. Thing this is going.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: Up grinding my gears a little bit BECAUSE i WAS
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 6: i was in a dark place last. WEEK i could
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 6: not have anticipated they were going to completely change the
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: offense overnight like they ran one offense in week one
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 6: that they couldn't move the, ball and then they came
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 6: out in week two with a completely different plan and
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: they moved the. Ball like if they if that's how
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: they're going to play offense now Is i'm not talking
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 6: necessarily about the, production but just the style of, offense
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 6: Then i'm on. Board, Like i'm fully on. Board that
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 6: wasn't what they were doing last. Week and all we
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 6: have is reacting to what we saw in the. Game
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 6: so if they kept playing the offense's style in which
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