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Steve Price | 21 November · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: This is Steve Price so joining us on this Friday night,
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Speaker 1: and what a week we've had in federal and state politics.
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Speaker 1: They called November the political killing season, and this week
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Speaker 1: has been one out of the box for the Liberal Party,
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Speaker 1: with the three most senior Liberal opposition jobs now held
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Speaker 1: by progressive women. More on that to come coming up soon.
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Speaker 1: Ken new Victorian Liberal leader, speak of politics, Jess Wilson,
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Speaker 1: do enough in twelve months to prevent a fourth in
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Speaker 1: a row labor victory in Victoria. There's exactly one year ago,
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Speaker 1: one year in one week. It's a tough task. I'll
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Speaker 1: have a bit to say about that in a sec
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Speaker 1: And first up tonight, The Australian's John Ferguson will join
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Speaker 1: us with his view. Also tonight, Adelaide dodged a huge
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Speaker 1: bullet in my view this week with Chris Bowen and
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi losing out to Turkey to host next year's
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Speaker 1: COP thirty one talk fest. We've already spent, by the way,
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Speaker 1: seven million dollars trying to get this Thingly, no one
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Speaker 1: cares about setting fire to millions of dollars anymore. Graham
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Speaker 1: Lloyd joins us to explain what these cop gabfests actually
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Speaker 1: achieve and what they're about, if anything. Plus Ambulance Victoria,
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Speaker 1: this is a shocking story. They're going to order a
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Speaker 1: review after a ninety one, yes, ninety one year old
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Speaker 1: Melbourne woman was refused an ambulance transport despite having a
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Speaker 1: fractured pelvis and horrific facial bruising. I'll show you the pictures.
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Speaker 1: They are horrendous. This appears to be the latest example
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Speaker 1: of a busted health system in a broke state. Victorian
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Speaker 1: Opposition health spokeswoman Georgie Crozier will be here with us
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Speaker 1: as well, as I said, in exactly one week and
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Speaker 1: a year from today, Victorians will be preparing to go
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Speaker 1: to the polls to either elect a fourth term Labor
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Speaker 1: government and put Jacinta Allen in the Premier's office, or
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Speaker 1: they will turn to the Liberal Party. Victorians will take
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Speaker 1: a punt, maybe on what has been an ineffectual Liberal
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Speaker 1: opposition up until now that just this week elected its
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Speaker 1: third leader in under a year. They've tried just since December,
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Speaker 1: John Persuto, whose leadership was defined by the Moi Deeming affair.
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Speaker 1: Then they put Brad Batton into the job. The former
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Speaker 1: policeman prison officer, small businessman who from the outside seemed
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Speaker 1: to be making ground on the unelected Jacinda Allen and
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Speaker 1: was even ahead in the polls. Why would you dump him?
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Speaker 1: I must say. When Baton appeared Brad after losing the
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Speaker 1: leadership to speak to the media, he came from the
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Speaker 1: party room through the door, he seemed to me. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you agree. He seemed to me to
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Speaker 1: be a relieved man, someone with a great weight taken
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Speaker 1: from his shoulders.
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Speaker 2: I stand continuously proud in the role that I've done
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Speaker 2: and the things that I've done for the community. The
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Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal Party now has a very clear path to
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Speaker 2: go towards the next election, and his.
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Speaker 1: Face he's happy and seriously, who would really want that
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Speaker 1: job anyway? Well, it seems thirty five year old Liberal
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Speaker 1: moderate Jess Wilson wanted it more than anyone else. Issue.
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Speaker 3: As leader, I have a clear focus.
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Speaker 4: I have clear priorities.
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Speaker 3: One to get the budget back into control so we
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Speaker 3: can invest in things that matter. Two to end the
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Speaker 3: crime crisis. Three to make sure that Victorians can get
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Speaker 3: access to the healthcare that they need and deserve. And
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Speaker 3: four to give every Victorian the best opportunity to own
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Speaker 3: their own home in this state.
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Speaker 1: Confident, young female, smart and not afraid. It seems to
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Speaker 1: take on just Into Allen, who just happens to be
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Speaker 1: the longest serving female minister of any government, any party
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Speaker 1: in Victorian history, and the Premier who inherited her job
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Speaker 1: from the despised Daniel Andrews. Well. I don't like him
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Speaker 1: very much and I don't think a lot of Victorians
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Speaker 1: do either. After we suffer the world's longest COVID lockdowns
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Speaker 1: in a crazy move we haven't recovered from Well, the
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Speaker 1: Premier was immediately on the front foot, first up, offering
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Speaker 1: a handshake across the dispatch box to Jess Wilson. Something
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Speaker 1: I think, and it's a small thing, probably that Jess
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Speaker 1: Wilson should have batted away and refused to shake her hand.
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Speaker 1: And then she made a joke about the latest Liberal leader.
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Speaker 5: Q Speaker and I thank the latest leader of the
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Speaker 5: Liberal Party for her question today, and I thank her
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Speaker 5: for her question which is focused on the government's fiscal
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Speaker 5: strategy that I say, Speaker is working.
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Speaker 1: We'll get John Ferguson's view in a moment from The
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Speaker 1: Australian The Sex. So we have a year until election day.
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Speaker 1: Just Allen and her cohort of nodding ministers in the
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Speaker 1: background wearing high viz vests and hard hats every day,
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Speaker 1: will and this has all been cynically timed. I believe
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Speaker 1: they will open the newly constructed, late and way over
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Speaker 1: budget Westgate Tunnel in an attempt to relieve traffic jams
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Speaker 1: in the packed western suburbs of Melbourne. Now, if you
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Speaker 1: make that daily grind over the Westgate Bridge currently, now
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Speaker 1: you'll be happy, I guess about that. But there are
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Speaker 1: tolls on some of the part of that new tunnel
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Speaker 1: which might end up forcing commuters just to go back
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Speaker 1: onto the existing bridge, fixing nothing. Now, once that's up
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Speaker 1: and running again over budget and late, the Metro Tunnel
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Speaker 1: will open shiny news stations under Flinders and Burke Streets
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Speaker 1: in the North Melbourne Medical Precinct and for some unknown reason,
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Speaker 1: at the Shrine of Remembrance. Now I'm yet to find
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Speaker 1: someone who actually knows how this Metro Tunnel will help them. Then,
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Speaker 1: of course we have the Suburban rail Loop, the most
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Speaker 1: expensive infrastructure project in Australia. That suddenly the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanize, he likes it so much now he has
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Speaker 1: committed to more funding in next year's March budget out
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Speaker 1: of your pocket. How much, Well, he won't tell us.
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Speaker 1: He was in Melbourne with the Premier this week here he.
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Speaker 6: Is, yes, we have and there will be additional funding
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Speaker 6: in the budget next year for suburban railroop on top
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Speaker 6: of the nine point two b and dollars we have
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Speaker 6: already submitted. My government knows where Victoria is. Unlike the
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Speaker 6: three previous prime ministers from New South Wales, they didn't
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Speaker 6: seem to know that it was possible for the national
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Speaker 6: government to cross the Murray.
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Speaker 1: How do you feel about tipping that amount of money
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Speaker 1: into a project in Melbourne which in the first stage
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Speaker 1: goes from Cheltenham to box Hill where no one wants
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Speaker 1: to travel, and you're a taxpayer living in Adelaide or
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Speaker 1: Sydney or Brisbane or anywhere outside of Melbourne in fact,
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Speaker 1: Ballorado Bendigar. I mean, it's huge money. They've already put
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Speaker 1: in nine billion and he won't now tell us how
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Speaker 1: much you'll put in March. He competed to be a
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Speaker 1: lot of money because he's determined to get just into
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Speaker 1: Allen elected. Now the stage is set, the coalition could
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Speaker 1: win next November, but they have to realize and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure they do. What they are up against. Victorian Labor
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Speaker 1: is the sliickeest political outfit in Australia. They are backed
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Speaker 1: by the CFMEU that use these big build projects as
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Speaker 1: a golden ticket for decades to come. They just keep
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Speaker 1: getting paid wages. Labour has stacked the public service with
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Speaker 1: fellow travelers, stacked the institutions like the courts, and allowed
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Speaker 1: the public service to balloon in huge numbers. They have
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Speaker 1: the backing of Canberra, who will now you know, throw
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Speaker 1: Australian taxpayers money at Victoria to keep labor in offices.
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Speaker 1: I said, now, right now, I think they get back
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Speaker 1: labor that is and Jacinda Allen with a reduced majority
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Speaker 1: and with fixed terms. That will mean sixteen years of
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Speaker 1: uninterrupted labor rule in this state. If there is not
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Speaker 1: already a rush to move into state from Victoria, especially
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Speaker 1: crime ridden Melbourne, then if Labour wins that election, you
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Speaker 1: will open the floodgates. Okay, let's get stuck in and
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Speaker 1: joining me now is John Ferguson, Associate editor of The Australian,
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Speaker 1: and he's seen more Victorian politics probably than I have
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Speaker 1: that editorial that I started with today, John, and I've
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Speaker 1: written a column about it as well. Ken the Premier,
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Speaker 1: Justina Allen win another term for labor. My view is probably, oh,
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Speaker 1: I think it's quite possible.
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Speaker 7: In fact, in fact, if you're putting money on it, Steve,
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Speaker 7: you would put money on labor at this point.
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Speaker 8: But it's twelve months ago.
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Speaker 7: Labor has so much baggage that it's possible that the
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Speaker 7: new Liberal leader, Jess Wilson can pick up the sixteen seats.
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Speaker 8: That she's needed needs.
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Speaker 7: It's a lot, but Steve Brax did it in nineteen
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Speaker 7: ninety nine, had to stitch together a minority of government.
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Speaker 8: But I think it's probably game on. But you and
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Speaker 8: I both know.
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Speaker 7: That the Liberal Party in Victoria is brilliant at messing
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Speaker 7: things up, so it's really going to be in their
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Speaker 7: core to convince vaders that they can trust them.
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Speaker 1: We are surprised, John, that they dumped bred Batton, given
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Speaker 1: that there was a Herald Sun poll the day before
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Speaker 1: they moved on him that showed he'd actually gotten a
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Speaker 1: lead over Just said to Alan he was talking tough
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Speaker 1: on law and order and crime, and we're all sick
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Speaker 1: and tired of that. I just didn't quite work out
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Speaker 1: this theory that he was a one trick pony and
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Speaker 1: could only talk about home invasions, mashettier texts and card jackings. Well,
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Speaker 1: I reckon that's something you should be talking about a lot.
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Speaker 8: What's kind of my view as well.
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Speaker 7: I think the crime issue was a problem for him
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Speaker 7: and his critics.
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Speaker 8: This was an internal battle because he messed up.
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Speaker 7: He failed to back some people who had supported him,
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Speaker 7: and so it's just it's an internal war that led
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Speaker 7: to this. I thought that if you were going to change,
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Speaker 7: you'd probably wait until February and see how things are going,
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Speaker 7: and then you might put somebody like Jess Wilson in.
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Speaker 7: But now they've done it. There there are early signs
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Speaker 7: that it could work for them. But this is politics
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Speaker 7: is like journalism. It's it's hard work and it's how
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Speaker 7: many phone calls people make. It's how convincing that Jess
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Speaker 7: Wilson can be.
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Speaker 8: It's not just about changing the leader.
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Speaker 7: It's about changing it's about getting the confidence of the
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Speaker 7: people and real to that end, it's in Jess Wilson's
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Speaker 7: you know, it's up to her.
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Speaker 8: I mean, how good is she? You know?
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Speaker 7: I think she presents well. I think she's got a
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Speaker 7: lot going for her. But one thing I would say,
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I mean, she seems to be making a
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Speaker 7: bit of a target of herself already by putting quite
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Speaker 7: a few things out there. I would personally, strategically be
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Speaker 7: looking at a small target approach. But you know, I'm
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Speaker 7: not a liberal strategist, thankfully.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I wonder who their strategists are, because I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, she's come out today and talked about knocking
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Speaker 1: off a bunch of taxes, including the vacant house tax
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Speaker 1: and lowering stamp duty for first home buyers and the
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Speaker 1: emergency services levy get stumped as well, all popular things.
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Speaker 1: But then you have to ask yourself the question, And
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Speaker 1: she's the one with the economic smarts, not me, not you.
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Speaker 1: How do you, then, you know, bring the debt down
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Speaker 1: and rescue the budget. If you're throwing all that tax
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Speaker 1: revenue out.
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Speaker 7: The door, well it feels to me a little bit
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Speaker 7: like a big bang approach.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 7: Well, the people watching this are around for John Houston
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Speaker 7: will remember the GST and you know, tax refilm's great
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Speaker 7: and look as a parent with a you know, still
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Speaker 7: paying school fees. Look love to get rid of that
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Speaker 7: payroll tax on private schools. Just selfish and it's a
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Speaker 7: bit first worldish, but you know, there are a lot.
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Speaker 8: Of enormous amount of taxes introduced.
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Speaker 7: But she's going to now have to explain how she
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Speaker 7: does this, and critically, she's going to have to fight
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Speaker 7: the labor machine, which will will argue that if she's
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Speaker 7: going to fix debt, they're going to they're going to
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Speaker 7: She's going to have to absolutely smash the public service.
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Speaker 7: And I think that's problematic for Jess Wilson if if
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Speaker 7: that's where they run, because the.
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Speaker 8: Labor machine is brutal.
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Speaker 7: Now, what she'll be hoping is that basically Victorians have
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Speaker 7: just got totally sick of the government and it's time
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Speaker 7: that they go. But you and I I can't sitting
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Speaker 7: here twelve months out can't guess.
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Speaker 8: How it's going to go.
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Speaker 7: Well, we'll have a much closer idea frankly in about
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Speaker 7: six months.
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Speaker 1: John Gooden, just be that Victoria's a labor state. They've
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Speaker 1: had twelve years of Daniel Andrean's and now a couple
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Speaker 1: of Jacinda Allen. If she wins, it will be sixteen years.
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Speaker 1: I think I wrote today that aside from the Ted
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Speaker 1: value three four years in office with Dennis napthin that
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Speaker 1: it's been one liberal coalition government in twenty seven years.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you could make the argument that Victoria is
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Speaker 1: just a labor state. It's always going to be.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the one party say things, a very valid argument.
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Speaker 8: You know. I think what we're witnessing in Victoria.
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Speaker 7: Is, and it's happened any elsewhere in Australia, is the
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Speaker 7: increasing urbanization of the state. It's a small state anyway,
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Speaker 7: but you know it's increasingly those You've got Melbourne's getting massive,
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Speaker 7: and then you've got the big three regional centers.
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Speaker 8: And so those places.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's not the old Victoria, it's a
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Speaker 7: new Victoria. And I think that's where Jess Wilson. I
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Speaker 7: suppose her opportunity is that she's young, she's thirty five.
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Speaker 7: There's a huge block of voters in the millennials. The
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Speaker 7: biggest single demographic five year demographic is there. I think
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Speaker 7: it's about eighteen to twenty three or four. That's the
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Speaker 7: biggest block of vot voters in Victoria now. So you know,
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Speaker 7: there's there's plenty of opportunity there but she's going to
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Speaker 7: have to be good, you know, I think that's the
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Speaker 7: reality of it.
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Speaker 8: She's going to have to be good, and they're going
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Speaker 8: to have to be united.
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Speaker 7: If she makes mistakes and the Liberals continue to be
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Speaker 7: bitterly divided, then it's not going to work. It'll be labored.
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Speaker 7: It'd be labors. Labor will win. But you know, if
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Speaker 7: she's good and she can prosecute these potentially complex agent
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Speaker 7: well you never know, maybe she can pull off a
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Speaker 7: really difficult election win.
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Speaker 1: Well, just finally, I mean, the labor machine you talk
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Speaker 1: of is the best in the country. They are just ruthless,
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Speaker 1: and they're driving these policy changes. She's had to be
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Speaker 1: dragged back to change bail laws and talk about even
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Speaker 1: you know, youth crime, youngsters serving life in jail, which
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Speaker 1: was completely ridiculous. But I mean, you know, I just
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Speaker 1: get a sense that when we go through next year.
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Speaker 1: I note that youngsters are going to get free public
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Speaker 1: transport across Victoria from next year. I think it's under sixteens,
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Speaker 1: so that means school kids. I wouldn't be surprised. I
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Speaker 1: could be completely wrong, John, but I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 1: if she makes an announcement halfway through next year that
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Speaker 1: public transport in Victoria is going to be free. They've
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Speaker 1: taken back control over the fares on public transport. Why
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Speaker 1: wouldn't they do that? They probably will, look they.
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Speaker 7: Will throw a buck at a cash and this is
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Speaker 7: the challenge for the coalition. So the lives in that
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Speaker 7: in Victoria. They have to run a really successful campaign
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Speaker 7: and I don't think I personally don't think a campaign
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Speaker 7: of cutting the public service and going really hard at
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Speaker 7: the budget, even though at my heart I suppose I'm
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Speaker 7: a rationalist and think I can see the reason why
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Speaker 7: you would do that fiscally, But I think she needs
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Speaker 7: to really be the small target, and then when she
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Speaker 7: gets in, I suppose map out a future that's strategically
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Speaker 7: what I would do. But let's see, she might be
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Speaker 7: the genius that people are saying. I'm getting inundated with
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Speaker 7: people ringing from across the party, senior people, people that
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Speaker 7: don't even like me ringing up saying oh, well you
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Speaker 7: need to watch this because she's really good. And I
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Speaker 7: don't disbelieve them, but I want to see the evidence.
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Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with you, John, Thanks
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Speaker 1: a lot, mate, Thank you Steve. How can anyone not
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Speaker 1: like John Ferguson. Thanks to that, John, Now I want
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Speaker 1: to go climate change obviously, that's the other big issue,
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Speaker 1: Not so much climate change but energy costs around the country.
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Speaker 1: Now Labour's failed in a bid to host, thank goodness,
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Speaker 1: the UN's Climate talk Fest COP thirty one. They had
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Speaker 1: planned to stage it in Adelaide next year. Now Australia
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Speaker 1: is a seat of the hosting rights to Turkey. Now
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Speaker 1: the cost of this, I mean seriously, it was going
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Speaker 1: to be somewhere between one and two billion dollars. How
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Speaker 1: anyone in their right mind thought that was a good idea.
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Speaker 1: But as part of this settlement deal, Chris Bowen, the
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Speaker 1: worst minister in the government, has managed to secure something
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Speaker 1: called the role of COP thirty one's President for Climate negotiations.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't he love that title? I don't even know what
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Speaker 1: it means, but I have seen him speaking today where
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Speaker 1: he's going to now be a part time minister in Australia.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be traveling around the world negotiating for
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Speaker 1: next year's COP joining me now the Australian's Environment edd
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Speaker 1: A Lloyd. I mean, can you believe this stuff? I
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Speaker 1: mean that thing in brazila is a complete disaster and
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Speaker 1: a joke.
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Speaker 9: Yea, we'll get anything. It certainly an outcome that few
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Speaker 9: were expecting. We thought, look, the Australian government may give
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Speaker 9: up and let Turkey host the conference, but we've ended
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Speaker 9: up halfway. Chris Bowen is going to be running the
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Speaker 9: show when it comes to negotiations, which is probably what
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Speaker 9: it was all about from the outset. I'm with you.
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Speaker 9: I think Australia's dodged a bullet in not having it
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Speaker 9: in Adelaide, because that would be laid with all sorts
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Speaker 9: of demands and things and boxed into taking actions we
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Speaker 9: probably don't like. We're now one step removed, but we
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Speaker 9: still have Chris Bowen over there really running a subsidiary
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Speaker 9: process to Turkey, which will actually be the cop president,
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Speaker 9: but it looks like Chris Bowen will be doing all
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Speaker 9: their work for them. It remains to be seen how
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Speaker 9: that's going to work.
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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully he'll be out of the country for a
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Speaker 1: long time and they'll stop stuffing up energy policy in
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Speaker 1: our country. How could you possibly spend Okay, let's go
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Speaker 1: the lower figure, one thousand million dollars staging a talk
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Speaker 1: fest on net zero at COP thirty one. Does anyone
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Speaker 1: ever worked out what that money would be spent on.
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Speaker 9: Well, a lot of this money is going to be
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Speaker 9: spent flying people around. And I guess the bad news
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Speaker 9: is that even though we won't be hosting it in Adelaide,
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Speaker 9: which is the good news, the other side of that
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Speaker 9: is we're still going to have an elaborate process in
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Speaker 9: the Pacific where world leaders are expected to come along
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Speaker 9: and pledge a whole load of money to a Pacific
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Speaker 9: resilience fund. And I think you'll find that a large
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Speaker 9: portion of that cost will land on Australia's lap. So
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Speaker 9: even though we're not hosting the Adelaide conference, we're still
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Speaker 9: doing something in the Pacific which may turn out to
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Speaker 9: be just as expensive.
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Speaker 1: Graham, what is the reality of what climate changes isn't
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Speaker 1: doing to the Pacific Islands?
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Speaker 9: Well, there's lots of concerns in the Pacific Islands about
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Speaker 9: sea levels rising a few one hundred years into the future.
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Speaker 9: The scientific evidence is that, contrary to what people may think,
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Speaker 9: islands are actually increasing in.
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Speaker 8: Size as sea levels rise.
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Speaker 9: Not going underwater. I think coastal erosion has probably always
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Speaker 9: been an issue there there's a very big emotional and
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Speaker 9: strategic interest in the Pacific Island leaders in making sure
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Speaker 9: the rest of the world pays attention to them.
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Speaker 1: It was good to catch up, Graham. Thank you very much,
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Speaker 1: my friend. Now after the break the family and this
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Speaker 1: is a truly shocking story of a ninety one year
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Speaker 1: old Melbourne woman who was denied an ambulance. They've slammed
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Speaker 1: the Victorian government's initial response. We'll talk to Georgie Crazier
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Speaker 1: about that, plus former Queensland Liberal Premier Campbell Newman. He'll
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Speaker 1: join us and help us break down a big week
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Speaker 1: of leadership changes for the Liberal Party and what it
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Speaker 1: might or might not achieve. Welcome back. Now, this next
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Speaker 1: story is truly shocking. The daughter of a ninety one
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Speaker 1: year old Melbourne woman was refused ambulance treatment after a
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Speaker 1: shocking fall has slammed the Victorian Premier to Cinder Allen
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Speaker 1: as she should for saying she quote received excellent quality care. Now,
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Speaker 1: I note there's been a lot of backsliding on this
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Speaker 1: story today. I want to give you a warning. The
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Speaker 1: following images are very distressing, but I think it highlights
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Speaker 1: just how serious this incident actually was. Now Louis cas
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Speaker 1: Bolt suffered a broken pelvis and bleeding on the brain,
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Speaker 1: but was told to make her own way to hospital
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Speaker 1: with her daughter after consulting with an online doctor. Now
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Speaker 1: paramedics did attend and they checked her out. They went
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Speaker 1: online to this online emergency department, which I didn't even
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Speaker 1: know existed.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 1: The Allen government initially rejected calls for an investigation, saying
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Speaker 1: the decision was not due to resourcing issues. See how
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Speaker 1: they backslide and their defensive all the time. But by
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Speaker 1: this afternoon we've learned Ambulance Victoria will be launching a
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Speaker 1: formal review. Joining me now Victoria's shadow Health Minister, Georgie Crozier.
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Speaker 1: Those pictures are most disturbing and for me, my mum
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Speaker 1: turned ninety one on Wednesday this week, and it just
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Speaker 1: shows you what can happen when you get to that
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Speaker 1: age if you have a fall.
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Speaker 10: Oh, Steve, when I got the email from Lois's daughter, jan,
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Speaker 10: I was horrified and heartbroken to see the image and
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Speaker 10: what she described to me in the email and subsequent
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Speaker 10: emails and discussions.
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Speaker 4: That I've had with her was just truly shocking.
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Speaker 10: As you said, there's just been a lot of backsliding
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Speaker 10: from government. But what I was most disappointed with from
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Speaker 10: the Health Ministry and the Premiere was not even understanding
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Speaker 10: the human side of this, as you said, your ninety
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Speaker 10: one year old mother, and it could be anyone's mother,
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Speaker 10: and as jan Lois's daughter said, what if it's your mother, Premiere,
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Speaker 10: And there was just none of that understanding of the
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Speaker 10: heartbreak and the very serious nature of the injuries that
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Speaker 10: Lois Caspolt had suffered with the fall that she's sustained.
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Speaker 1: You've had experience in the health system yourself. Have you
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Speaker 1: been able to work out exactly what went on here?
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Speaker 1: And I don't live under a rock. I'm pretty attuned
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Speaker 1: to the way things work. I didn't even know we
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Speaker 1: had an online emergency department to consult on people who
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Speaker 1: might be in trouble.
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Speaker 10: Well, we do have a virtual ed and the government
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Speaker 10: has put that in place, and that was as a
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Speaker 10: result of after COVID and the huge pressures within the
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Speaker 10: system worked out of Northern Health, so it's not a
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Speaker 10: localized response.
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Speaker 4: And there are questions that I have in relation.
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Speaker 10: To the timing and what happened with the paramedics and
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Speaker 10: their time it took for them to get that consultation
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Speaker 10: and advice from the doctor and the virtual ed and
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Speaker 10: what transpired there from given from the information that I
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Speaker 10: have received from Jan Lewis's daughter, so there is a
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Speaker 10: lot of questions that I think need to be answered,
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Speaker 10: and that's why I called on an independent investigation yesterday.
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Speaker 4: We need to get to the bottom of this.
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Speaker 10: Because as we see this heartbreaking image and horrific image,
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Speaker 10: we've got to understand what happens so that this doesn't
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Speaker 10: happen again. And that's why I think it's very interesting
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Speaker 10: that the government has correctly about under pressure to have
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Speaker 10: an investigation, but it's not going to be truly independent
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Speaker 10: give and it's with the government agencies.
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Speaker 1: So you and I are big supporters of paramedics. I
24:06
Speaker 1: just can't get my head around why they wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: loaded low Us into their vehicle and taken to hospital.
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Speaker 1: With the explanation there b Georgie. That would tie up
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Speaker 1: that resource and they couldn't afford to do that. Is
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Speaker 1: that what's happened?
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Speaker 10: I don't know, Steve, and from the information that I've received,
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Speaker 10: they were the only crew in the area. The government
24:31
Speaker 10: said there was no resourcing issues, So we need to
24:34
Speaker 10: sort of understand what's happened and why the decisions were made. Now,
24:37
Speaker 10: there's lots of conversations that happen in paramedic assessment, and
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Speaker 10: there might have been some other scenarios.
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Speaker 4: But what we do now is this is a ninety one.
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Speaker 10: Year old, very frail woman who's got multiple health complications.
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Speaker 10: As it is, She's sustained a significant fall, she had
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Speaker 10: profuse bleeding that has the fall has resulted in bleeding
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Speaker 10: on the brain and a fractured pelvis.
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Speaker 4: She was in pain. All of these clinical signs, the bleeding.
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Speaker 10: The extensive pain that she was experiencing on movement and
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Speaker 10: things like that should be an indicator of a woman
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Speaker 10: of that age to get emergency treatment.
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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm concerned about.
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Speaker 10: Why she was transported in a private vehicle just to
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Speaker 10: ten minutes down the track.
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Speaker 1: How much is vig Kel stretched and in how much
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Speaker 1: trouble is that the health system in general.
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Speaker 10: It's under enormous pressure. And the latest VAHI data, the
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Speaker 10: government data on wait lists has surged past six almost
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Speaker 10: to sixty one thousand. Ambulance response times are not improving.
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Speaker 10: All of these metrics that the government says they are.
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Speaker 4: Improving on really aren't.
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Speaker 10: We've got some real concerns right across the system, workforce shortages, issues,
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Speaker 10: a whole range of issues, and the government has failed
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Speaker 10: to address, you know, things like primary care. They're taxing
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Speaker 10: GPS for goodness sake, I mean, why would you do that.
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Speaker 10: You need more people getting that care in the community
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Speaker 10: with your GP rather than ending up in the acute system.
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Speaker 10: In the EDS, community healthcare funded. We've got infrastructure that's
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Speaker 10: falling to bits in all of these major areas.
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Speaker 4: The hospital Lowest Caspolt ended up in. You should see it.
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Speaker 4: It is out of the nineteen thirties.
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Speaker 10: It needs a rebuild, the Alfred, all of these issues.
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Speaker 10: There's just so many concerns amongst our health system as
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Speaker 10: right across the system, community health, palliative care, the underfunding.
26:46
Speaker 10: Things like this need to be funded properly, resourced properly, but.
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Speaker 4: The government has ignored it.
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Speaker 10: And that's why we've got so many issues right across
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Speaker 10: the system. It's not just one isolated area. And there
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Speaker 10: lies the problem.
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Speaker 1: I know you'll keep an eye on and I will
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Speaker 1: also Lowis Casbot deserves that we need to find out
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Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Nice to see you again, Georgie Crazier,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Well. As I said at the
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Speaker 1: top of the program, it's been a huge week for
27:11
Speaker 1: the Liberals right around the country. Both in Victoria obviously
27:14
Speaker 1: Brad Batton was voted out and replaced. Just today Kelly
27:20
Speaker 1: Sloane has swooped in to claim the leadership in New
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Speaker 1: South Wales after Mark Speakman's abrupt resignation. So the three
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Speaker 1: most senior positions in the Liberal Party, that being New
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Speaker 1: South Wales, Victoria and the Commonwealth are now held by women.
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Speaker 1: Here to discuss their amifications of all this internal liberal
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Speaker 1: chaos from a Queensland Premier. Skyne is regular my Friday
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Speaker 1: night mate, Campbell Newman, Good to see you boy. What's
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Speaker 1: going on with the Liberals? I mean, the thing that
27:52
Speaker 1: strikes me about this, you know, they've chosen three progressive
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Speaker 1: women from the the left of the Liberal Party in
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Speaker 1: Susan Lee, Kelly Sloane and Jess Wilson. That doesn't seem
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Speaker 1: to me that that's going to get them re elected
28:11
Speaker 1: or elected.
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Speaker 11: The first thing Steve, I'd say, and with a bit
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Speaker 11: of a grin on my face, is well, surely the
28:19
Speaker 11: Liberal Party doesn't have a woman problem now because they're
28:24
Speaker 11: for all intense charge of everything running the show, aren't they?
28:26
Speaker 11: Is they put in charge of everything, with all due
28:30
Speaker 11: respect to the Premier of Queensland David Christoph Foley, But
28:34
Speaker 11: you know, firstly there's the issue of cut through and
28:39
Speaker 11: in New South Wales Mark Speakman wasn't cutting through Unfortunately.
28:44
Speaker 11: I don't think that was the case in Victoria, where
28:47
Speaker 11: I think Baton was really making headway on your lousy
28:51
Speaker 11: government down there. Both of these new state female leaders
28:57
Speaker 11: clearly do have good presentation skills, They do come across
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Speaker 11: well and I think they will probably.
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Speaker 1: Make an impact.
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Speaker 11: And it's early days on that front, but I do
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Speaker 11: share quite signing at your concerns that they are from
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Speaker 11: the progressive side, and you know they are now running
29:17
Speaker 11: like a narrative country to where Susan Lee took the
29:20
Speaker 11: party federally in the last week and a half. So
29:24
Speaker 11: you know you've got both both these leaders who have
29:28
Speaker 11: a commitment to net zero. And I was quite intrigued
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Speaker 11: by Sloan in her press conference trying to sort of
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Speaker 11: talk about how bad it was these high power bills,
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Speaker 11: but as we all know, is then a net zero
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Speaker 11: sort of you know, carbon missions believer, you know, talking
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Speaker 11: about you know, still committed to that, and it is
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Speaker 11: completely contradictory. That's the barbed wire fence, and that could
29:55
Speaker 11: really spell trouble.
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Speaker 1: I don't even want to be a political advisor, but
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Speaker 1: if I was advising Kelly Sloane, the one thing I
30:03
Speaker 1: would have said to her this morning is leave the
30:07
Speaker 1: tesla at home. You come from the seat of all clues,
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Speaker 1: which is the most expensive real estate in the country.
30:13
Speaker 1: It might be better if you catch a train to
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Speaker 1: work today or turn up in some less obvious vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I found that extraordinary that she would bowl up in
30:24
Speaker 1: a one hundred and twenty thousand dollars tesla if it's
30:27
Speaker 1: still worth that they're diving in value. Why would anyone
30:30
Speaker 1: let her do that? Is there no one with any
30:32
Speaker 1: brains in the Liberal Party advising people.
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Speaker 11: I had a very good chief of staff, Steve, when
30:39
Speaker 11: I was in office, both at City Hall and then
30:43
Speaker 11: at state government, and he certainly wouldn't have let me
30:46
Speaker 11: do that, and neither would of his deputy, a young
30:48
Speaker 11: woman who is very talented as well. So yeah, that
30:52
Speaker 11: wasn't a particularly good look. You know, mighty you could
30:55
Speaker 11: have taken the bus in a long New south Head
30:57
Speaker 11: road into town. So I think the trouble for Kelly
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Speaker 11: Sloane is that she's, you know, she's a state in
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Speaker 11: p or the well, you know, let's face it, the
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Speaker 11: one of the wealthiest electorates in the nation and you know,
31:16
Speaker 11: it's it's you know, it's it's it's sort of doesn't
31:20
Speaker 11: get any better than that in Sydney, does it.
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Speaker 8: So no, I wish it well.
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Speaker 11: I wish both I wish I wish both of them well.
31:28
Speaker 11: But you know, where is the path to victory for
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Speaker 11: the Liberal Party at state level and federal level. It
31:35
Speaker 11: is in the middle and outer suburbs.
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Speaker 12: It is in real, rural and regional.
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Speaker 11: Parts of Australia. It is appealing to what Mensi's called
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Speaker 11: eighty years ago, the forgotten people. It is about people
31:47
Speaker 11: who are in small business. It is people on the land.
31:50
Speaker 11: It is the Howard tradees. It is those people. It
31:55
Speaker 11: is blue collar labor voting people who work heavy industry
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Speaker 11: who have been abandoned by the Labor Party.
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Speaker 8: That is the path the victory.
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Speaker 11: It is not in the inner city seats of Sydney,
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Speaker 11: Melbourne and Brisbane.
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Speaker 12: It's not there.
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Speaker 1: And the liberal putting need to wake up to that.
32:15
Speaker 1: And those people you speak of are not driving around
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Speaker 1: in Tesla's. I won't labor that point, but that was
32:19
Speaker 1: just ridiculous Campbell. You even it was great to catch
32:21
Speaker 1: up with you on a Friday night. I'll talk to
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Speaker 1: you next week. Now coming up after the break the
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Speaker 1: weekend cartoons. We love this every two weeks with Mark Knight.
32:29
Speaker 1: Plus there's more pressure on farmers in Victoria as a
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Speaker 1: renewable push, this time a dairy farmer fighting to stop
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Speaker 1: the roll out of large scale battery storage project that
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Speaker 1: will claim large swedes of prime agricultural land. That's all
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Speaker 1: coming up. Welcome back around doing coming up at the
32:50
Speaker 1: top of the hour, now joining me now is and
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Speaker 1: it's when you have a political week like we've had
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Speaker 1: both here in Victoria and federally, it is manner for heaven.
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Speaker 1: For our next guest, Harold's son, genius cartoonist Mark Knight,
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Speaker 1: good to see you. You've got a new liberal leader
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Speaker 1: in Victoria to draw. What's the process of going through
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Speaker 1: when you get someone new? How do you have you practiced?
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Speaker 1: Did you think that one day you might have to
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Speaker 1: draw her? Or have you drawn him before?
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Speaker 12: I was still getting used to drawing Brad Batton. He'd
33:26
Speaker 12: only been in the job for eleven months, Steve, I
33:29
Speaker 12: really hadn't gone on top of him. Now I've got
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Speaker 12: Jess Wilson and the first time I get to draw
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Speaker 12: her as the opposition leader, which is in the cartoon
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Speaker 12: we're looking at now. I thought it was ironic that
33:41
Speaker 12: Brad Baton was leading quite a successful campaign for the
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Speaker 12: Liberals about knife crimes in Victoria, and unfortunately he suffered one,
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Speaker 12: a pretty bad one, and it was delivered by the
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Speaker 12: Liberal Party, as you can see in the cartoon.
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Speaker 1: That's a very good point. I mean, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: take a guess that you're most favorite ever Liberal Party
34:03
Speaker 1: leader in Victoria to draw would have been Jeffrey Gibb Kennett.
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Speaker 12: Oh yes, yes, yes. I met mister Kennett the other
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Speaker 12: day at a lunch and I implored him, can you
34:15
Speaker 12: please come back, not for the sake of Victorians, but
34:18
Speaker 12: for the sake of we cartoonists, because he is a
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Speaker 12: gift and he was great to draw. I remember my
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Speaker 12: editors at the time saying that there was ever a
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Speaker 12: slow dawn in Victoria, we would just send a cub
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Speaker 12: reporter out to Parliament House to ask Jeffrey ten questions
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Speaker 12: and invariably one of the answers would be a page
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Speaker 12: one lead.
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Speaker 1: So we miss him absolutely. Yes, I had a lot
34:43
Speaker 1: to do with him on radio. He was certainly a talent.
34:46
Speaker 1: Let's talk energy policy and the energy policy battle that's
34:50
Speaker 1: obviously back in the news. Susan Lee's ditched net zero.
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Speaker 1: She's no fan of Chris bow and I love the
34:57
Speaker 1: way you draw Bowen what she did telling Bowen there,
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Speaker 1: who's now apparently the cop Global President or some a
35:05
Speaker 1: ridiculous title.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I believe he's in charge of negotiations over there
35:09
Speaker 12: in Brazil. Pricey and I don't know what Brazil has
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Speaker 12: done to deserve that, but anyway, good luck to them.
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Speaker 12: What Susan Lae is saying here is that, and it's
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Speaker 12: the question I ask myself. We hear about net zero
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Speaker 12: and renewables, but what are these new renewables actually going
35:28
Speaker 12: to do to lower our power prices? And what are
35:31
Speaker 12: the chances of them lowering the power prices?
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Speaker 13: And of course Chris Bowen is saying, well, nets zero,
35:38
Speaker 13: actually are the chances. So the more wind turbines and
35:45
Speaker 13: solar panels we see the higher electricity prices become so look,
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Speaker 13: she might be onto something there by dumping net zero.
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Speaker 1: I was very happy you picked up. The handshake across
35:58
Speaker 1: the dispatch box suggests Wilson was made the new leader.
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Speaker 1: Cinda Allen actually beckoned to her and made her lean
36:05
Speaker 1: across and shake hands. I thought that was very clever
36:08
Speaker 1: from Justinda Allen. It shows, you know, it's one of
36:11
Speaker 1: those I'm in your face. You're just here, you're a youngster,
36:15
Speaker 1: you haven't been here very long. I've got your measure.
36:19
Speaker 1: It is a bit like a boxing match. You've now
36:22
Speaker 1: got a couple of candidates, both female, and I guess
36:26
Speaker 1: that makes it easier for both sides to criticize them,
36:28
Speaker 1: because as a male you can't criticize a female leader.
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Speaker 1: That's a great cartoon. I thought that would lead the
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Speaker 1: news that night, and it did.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: I thought it was one of those amazing moments.
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Speaker 1: And you're right.
36:42
Speaker 12: It was like her leaning, you know, confidently across, saying
36:45
Speaker 12: welcome kiddo to the you know, the big the ring,
36:50
Speaker 12: the bull ring, so to speak. Look, and I think
36:53
Speaker 12: people thought, and look, we've got two women now that
36:55
Speaker 12: it'll be less adversarial and it'll be more civilized. Well,
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Speaker 12: I don't believe that. Just into alan Is. You know,
37:05
Speaker 12: she's been in the game for a long time, and
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Speaker 12: I think the labor Party was already digging into the
37:10
Speaker 12: machete bins today looking for sharp edged objects to attack
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Speaker 12: Jess W. Wilson with. So no, it'll be on for
37:18
Speaker 12: young and old. Don't worry about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on fire Mark, Thanks mate, I'll talk to
37:22
Speaker 1: you in a couple of weeks mart Night from the Heralds.
37:24
Speaker 1: I make sure you grabby copied tomorrow and have a
37:26
Speaker 1: little bit of his cartoons. I want to talk quickly
37:28
Speaker 1: about a renewable project in rural Victoria. Now this threatens
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Speaker 1: the long term sustainability of one industry, their dairy industry.
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Speaker 1: It's even spark concerns about safety for local residents now.
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Speaker 1: Craig mcwinnie is a dairy farmer at Yarragon, which is
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Speaker 1: near Warrigal. He's campaigning against the rollout of a proposed
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Speaker 1: large scale battery energy storage system with the proposed site
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Speaker 1: listen to this neighboring his six hundred acre dairy operation
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Speaker 1: where he runs four hundred cattle. An Australian company called
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Speaker 1: Zen Energy is putting this thing together, and he joins
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Speaker 1: us on the line. Now, Craig, can you explain to
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Speaker 1: me what they're trying to build there.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, So what they're trying to build is a battery
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Speaker 14: energy storage system or best in short. So they put
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Speaker 14: them under the transmission lines. They during the middle of
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Speaker 14: the day when there's a peak pout, when there's a
38:21
Speaker 14: fever to powers floating through the system, and the batteries
38:24
Speaker 14: actually just suck up all the excess power. When there's
38:29
Speaker 14: peak demands at night, they then release power back into
38:33
Speaker 14: the system. So the company buys it very cheaply in
38:36
Speaker 14: the middle of the day and then sells it quite
38:38
Speaker 14: expensive at night. So to all this power is just
38:43
Speaker 14: it's heading straight to Melbourne, US country.
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Speaker 1: People don't see a single drop of it. What will
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Speaker 1: this thing look like.
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Speaker 14: We're still yet to see final plans, but probably equivalent
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Speaker 14: to two three, four forty ables covered in what looked
39:01
Speaker 14: like shipping containers effectively, and then there'll be the associated
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Speaker 14: I'm not sure what you call the transfer stations that, yeah,
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Speaker 14: get the power out of the batteries and into lines
39:12
Speaker 14: and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: Where did they where did they manage to buy the
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Speaker 1: land from a neighbor.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so one block has been bought from a neighbor.
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Speaker 14: There's another project a couple of kilometers around the road
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Speaker 14: and they're they're doing a thirty year lease off their land.
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Speaker 1: What if any impact will have had on your dairy? Heard?
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Speaker 1: I mean this thing's massive.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it is quite big, so probably that there's lots
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Speaker 14: of little concerns, but the major one being is a fire,
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Speaker 14: either one of the containers catching or one of the
39:46
Speaker 14: batteries catching a light, or part of the area that
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Speaker 14: they've got designated to purchase has actually got bush fire
39:52
Speaker 14: overlays on them. That doesn't seem to worry them. So
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Speaker 14: you know, if we do get a fire in one
39:57
Speaker 14: of those batteries, a favorit of heavy metal, there's a
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Speaker 14: fair lithium, there's a favorite of contaminants that we're floating
40:04
Speaker 14: through the system. If any of that debris falls on
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Speaker 14: my farm, the farm, the other farms next door, probably
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Speaker 14: within five hundred meters of this, there's probably twelve million
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Speaker 14: liters of milk.
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Speaker 12: What happens to our business?
40:17
Speaker 14: So we are we still allowed to graze our cows
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Speaker 14: on those pastures?
40:21
Speaker 12: The past is now contaminated? Is this all contaminated.
40:24
Speaker 14: Were still allowd to sell our milk, were still to
40:26
Speaker 14: sell our cattle. So they're probably the big ones. And
40:30
Speaker 14: you know, if we get shut down or who covers it,
40:33
Speaker 14: we're just you know where to see you having to
40:35
Speaker 14: go having a crack at it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good luck to your power, to your arm.
40:40
Speaker 1: We'll keep in touch with you and make sure we
40:41
Speaker 1: talk on a regular basis. I suspect you're not getting
40:44
Speaker 1: much help from the state government, but really good to
40:46
Speaker 1: talk to you and good luck. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: going on right across all of regional Victorian. I know
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Speaker 1: you've got a petition up. We'll give the details. We'll
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Speaker 1: put that up on line coming up after the break.
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Speaker 1: Has the ABC made the right decision in dumping cricket
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Speaker 1: legend Glenn McGrath from his commentary lineup, This is ridiculous
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Speaker 1: because of his links to Betty, a betting agency bus.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump under fire for his latest social post threatening
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Speaker 1: Democrats with the death penalty. That's up next. Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: You really do feel for farmers like Craig. We'll keep
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Speaker 1: in touch with him and a bitter Kredlin's done a
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Speaker 1: lot of work on the intrusion into regional rule Australia
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Speaker 1: of these renewable projects. Let's get straight into our Friday
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Speaker 1: night panel. Jimma Tonuni from GT Communications Joints. So it
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Speaker 1: was a great pleasure to have her with U since
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Speaker 1: Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand. Welcome to you both. Now, Jemma,
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Speaker 1: I want to tap into your talent in advising people
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Speaker 1: what they should do. Have a look at Kelly Sloane
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Speaker 1: arriving at State Parliament this morning, and there she is
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Speaker 1: in her one hundred and twenty thousand dollars tesla. I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing it's probably now only worth about half that she holds.
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Speaker 1: She holds the seat of vor clues good honor. But
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Speaker 1: that's what do you think? Good look? Bad look?
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Speaker 15: I think it's going to become an irrelevant look. And
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Speaker 15: I'll tell you why I think. And also I can
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Speaker 15: confirm that I did my dough on my tesla and
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Speaker 15: getting rid of it was the happiest day of my life.
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Speaker 15: But back to Kelly Sloane, woman's allowed to drive a car,
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Speaker 15: Woman's allowed to drive an eva. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 15: Zalie Stegel's banging around the Lower north Shore and the
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Speaker 15: Northern Beaches in a gas guzzling pagero while telling the
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Speaker 15: world that we all have to eat bugs and stop
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Speaker 15: flying in planes. So let's not pretend that voters would
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Speaker 15: really be fixated on something like that. Kelly Sloane is
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Speaker 15: not a politician. She's a I think she's a former
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Speaker 15: journal isn't she. I think what will be important for
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Speaker 15: her is to show the authenticity, obviously, but that she
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Speaker 15: actually stands for something that she can prosecute, an argument
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Speaker 15: that she can relate to the middle, which, as we
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Speaker 15: know in Australia all elections are one in the middle.
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Speaker 15: And I have to say, like Mark speak, stepping down
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Speaker 15: is the first thing that I've seen him do since
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Speaker 15: I moved to Sydney three and a half years ago,
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Speaker 15: even when he was before he was you know, I
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Speaker 15: think he was a minister in the Perrote government. I
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Speaker 15: haven't seen him do anything until he step down this week. So,
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Speaker 15: you know, as a liberal voter, as a conviction conservative voter,
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Speaker 15: I'm hopeful that she will be able to take the
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Speaker 15: pulse of the electorate and take it up to what
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Speaker 15: is who is a very capable and popular premier in
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Speaker 15: Chris Mins and I don't personally care that she has
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Speaker 15: a uterus. What I care about is is she capable?
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Speaker 4: Is she competent? Can she lead? And can she you.
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Speaker 15: Know, respectfully put a stop to the bs back room
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Speaker 15: in fighting that has characterized the New South Wales Liberal
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Speaker 15: Party for time immemoriam. You know, the people in the
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Speaker 15: back rooms who are too gutless to show their faces
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Speaker 15: and like to think of themselves as puppet masters.
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Speaker 8: Joe.
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Speaker 1: If you take the s out of the word tesla
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Speaker 1: and rearranged last two letters, it get teal. That's what
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Speaker 1: worries me about these new Liberal women. They look like teals.
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Speaker 1: Oh come on, and they have to mate because they do.
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Speaker 16: There are four federal TiAl seats in New South Wales,
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Speaker 16: way more than any other state. One went back in Victoria,
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Speaker 16: one was picked up in New South Wales, and if
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Speaker 16: that happens at a state level, at a state election,
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Speaker 16: the New South Wales Liberals will be even more royally
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Speaker 16: screwed than they already are. So the first thing that
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Speaker 16: Callie Sloan has to project, and it's a very smart
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Speaker 16: move I think, is that she basically is a Teal.
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Speaker 1: She is a moderate liberal.
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Speaker 16: The New South Wales Libs, unlike their other state counterparts
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Speaker 16: and now federal counterparts, very pro action on climate change.
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Speaker 16: It is, after all the domain of Matt Keane and
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Speaker 16: I don't want to trigger anyone, but this is the
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Speaker 16: nature of the party and I think that the real
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Speaker 16: problem that Mark's speakman had, as Jemmy said, wasn't really
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Speaker 16: that he was a moderate. It was just that he
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Speaker 16: had absolutely no cut through whatsoever. He wasn't able to
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Speaker 16: draw any blood from the government from either the left
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Speaker 16: or the right.
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Speaker 15: Was he there or was it just a laminated head?
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Speaker 1: Confirmed?
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Speaker 16: I think you'd have to as holding a picture of
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Speaker 16: today's newspaper, wouldn't you a confirmed proof of Most people
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Speaker 16: in Australia would have no clue who he was.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about your ABC Joe Dump Glenn McGrath,
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Speaker 1: one of our legendary fast bowlers, because he's got some
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Speaker 1: link with bit three six five. I mean they're being
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Speaker 1: a bit precious, aren't they. I mean he's not. It's
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Speaker 1: not as if he's going on the ABC on day
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Speaker 1: one of the ashes tests and telling you everyone to
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Speaker 1: have a bit.
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Speaker 16: Well, from what I can gather from the great ABC
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Speaker 16: flagship program Media Watch Price, the ABC's last flirtation with
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Speaker 16: a big online betting agencies was when one of their
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Speaker 16: staff Four Corners reporters decided to do a side project,
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Speaker 16: had a podcast with someone that was funded by some
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Speaker 16: mysterious gambling company that they apparently did not know about.
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Speaker 16: So I suspect this has something to do with that,
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Speaker 16: and I think it's very unfair that Glenn McGrath, who
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Speaker 16: I'm assuming has done absolutely nothing wrong. I'm assuming that
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Speaker 16: you know. I mean, gambling is legal in Australia whether
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Speaker 16: you like it or not. Betting companies are legal in Australia,
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Speaker 16: whether you like it or not, and if they have
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Speaker 16: an association with him or him them, and it's all
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Speaker 16: completely above board and he's just doing his thing with
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Speaker 16: the ABC, not as an employee obviously, but as a contractor.
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Speaker 16: I don't understand why there would be the slightest problem
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Speaker 16: with it, as the ABS are going to go through
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Speaker 16: every other external contractors, you know, commercial links and anything
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Speaker 16: they disapprove of, they're going to scrub them from the screens.
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Speaker 16: I think this is the ABC running for cover from
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Speaker 16: its own stuff up with the young man.
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Speaker 1: On the from Four Corners Gemma. It's interesting because the
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Speaker 1: Albanzi government are trying to use the social media changes
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Speaker 1: for under sixteens as some sort of cover to have
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Speaker 1: no changes to online betting. I mean, there was that
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Speaker 1: huge argument about how much online betting advertising there should be.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi, who's quite close to Peter Milandy's and Rugby
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Speaker 1: League takes a lot of money from online betting. They
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Speaker 1: seem to be backsliding on that at a very rapid rate. Well.
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Speaker 15: As Jojah said, betting is legal in this country. I'm
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Speaker 15: not a big fan of it, but I don't have
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Speaker 15: to do it. No one's making me do it. I
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Speaker 15: think the betting industry aggressively, whether you like it or not,
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Speaker 15: aggressively targets younger people. I've never known. So my friends
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Speaker 15: with children, young men, like late teenagers in early twenties,
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Speaker 15: and they all a lot of them have betting apps
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Speaker 15: on their phone, and to me, it's a bit of
47:53
Speaker 15: a moment of head explosion. It's just something that we
47:56
Speaker 15: didn't do in my generation. And without sounding like a
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Speaker 15: old lady shake a fist at the sky, it is
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Speaker 15: cause for concern because it's aggressively targeting them. But you've
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Speaker 15: got to pick a horse and ride it. It's legal
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Speaker 15: and you manage it, or it's not legal and you
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Speaker 15: outlaw it. But back to Joe's point in the previous
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Speaker 15: point about the ABC and this whole thing with Glenn McGrath,
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Speaker 15: I it's so curious the ABC that has done nothing
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Speaker 15: about Chris Kenny's excellent reporting on the Trump vision from
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Speaker 15: the Four Corners report there, and they've done nothing either
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Speaker 15: about like in terms of holding anyone to account about
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Speaker 15: the Heston Russell stuff and that you know that audio
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Speaker 15: that was inserted.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's a great point. I mean they should
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Speaker 1: have done that. They have done that. Absolute outstanding job.
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Speaker 1: The hypocrites. We both have a great weekend. Watch the
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Speaker 1: cricket