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Making Monsters: Bears v Lions week 2 Preview · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, welcome back everybody to another episode of Making Monsters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Taylor Dahl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined today by Greg Braggs, Jr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know him, CHGO Bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite outlets to get my information from one of my favorite people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Greg, thanks for hopping on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I appreciate you having me on and we appreciate all your coverage as well and all your contributions to what we do around here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're a big supporter, but also somebody that we always look to when we're looking for helping hand or good insights and you're one of the best to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in our crazy bears concept oral.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is pretty crazy and especially after last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to touch on it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the things maybe There were good things there were bad things and I think that the focus has been on the bad things But I do think that there were some positives to take out of last week if you were to name a positive or two from next last week to give people some hope with what would that be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, everything's about Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And all you want to see is the, you want to talk, everybody wants to just immediately point to the negatives, like he said, but to me,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Starting 10 for 10, and first time a bear's quarterback still in that sense, 1978, so you understand where the bar is here in Chicago, because that shouldn't be a stat that is shown on the screen when the game's being played on Monday.
1:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was nice that he started for 10 for 10, but it's such a low bar here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, though, I think what you saw through that and really throughout the game was Caleb making quicker decisions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think that obviously the other half of this conversation is that he has to become more accurate this week, and he wants a couple of those throws back probably more than a couple, but at the end of the day,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm not going to, you know, some people are getting on them about the check-downs.
2:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw those check-downs, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get the ball out of your hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Make the quick decision.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not sure about it, at least find the, you know, somebody in the flat to get you some yards so you can figure it out on the next play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you look at two of the bad end completions on the game, the fourth down to DJ Moore in the first half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second, the
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[SPEAKER_02]: in the fourth quarter to co-comment, it was the same throw, left ash, middle slant, get the ball, he's looking right to look off the linebacker, and then he immediately throws it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look at the positive in those plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He identified exactly where he needed to go with the football, he looked off the linebacker on both of them and got the ball out of his hands quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the process was correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's about making sure your technique and fundamentals are dialed in, slow down a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You saw it, you got way too excited because you knew you were doing the right thing, but just make sure you're slowing down to make sure you deliver that pass accurately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the read was correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, to me, that speaks to all the different check-downs, and then obviously everything he's able to do outside of the pocket, you know, even some of the ways he escaped, I thought he made quick decisions there as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of second-guessing himself, no, take off 60 yards, he didn't have a rushing touchdown all of last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he got one on the first drive of the year and all by the way, the bears didn't score a touchdown on their first drive in any game like those those are the positives right and so now they just got to figure out that middle part of the game and you know we'll see how the adjustments make on Sunday but I think that that's where the starting block is for Taylor Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I saw he spoke today and when he did, he was talking about the footwork and how he felt like, you know, the the feet placement maybe wasn't right and how much of a focus that needs to be for him and pretty much saying every quarterback that needs to be on your mind and sometimes it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think to your point when it talks about maybe rushing, getting excited, getting antsy in in those moments, maybe the footwork wasn't right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The ball was a, uh, to some rockets he was throwing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are, I was watching, and when you talk about that 10 for 10, it still felt like things flowed better, it felt like there was a meaning to the offense, which there were times last year that it didn't, I mean, it just felt lost.
4:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, number two, I feel like there were several games early on, Greg, that I remember the broadcasting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we talked to, you know, I don't remember if I was to Emerfloser, whoever, but they didn't even have a set like the first 15.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for a game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just kind of like go out there and do your thing, Caleb, and figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I do think that having structure is going to work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think Ben Johnson is a perfectionist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this game happening week one and having things to take from it and learn from it is a positive if you want to look at it as teaching moments for Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I agree with you and a lot of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have to, the accuracy has to get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's moments where you can dissect every single thing he does and there's going to be some
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a lot of really good things and other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me and the Times came out and said the same thing today, where they're bad moments yeah, but there was a lot of positives to take from that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we've got to stop comparing Caleb to what you didn't did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What boom next did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What this person did and just kind of reel it into what's happening here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and bowed next by the way through multiple intercepts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's some hidden Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Took four quarters to have to beat the Giants last week, and Giants were playing pitiful that whole game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So to your point, like, no, we don't need to pay attention to anybody else, but at the same time, if you were, you'd notice they didn't have perfect week ones either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and so I'm with you and sometimes it is refreshing to hear from Kurt Warner, mean of times, or Nate Tyson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and different guys that have come out and say, slow down guys, like this is how I see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're so close to it, we're dissecting every single step and every breath they take at training camp all the way to this moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're well aware of all these little nuanced details.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it is best, at times, to take a step back,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and find somebody that has more of an aerial view of things, and that kind of helps you find a clear perspective.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay to really dial into every one of those details, but sometimes I think we get a little too ahead of ourselves by taking all those little details and then drawing grand conclusions for them as far as how it's going to project the rest of the season, because we all just ultimately want the answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is this going to work out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the answer is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, we don't know, but nobody wants to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wants their answer right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, I truly think that Vikings defense is going to be a top five unit this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I think they've improved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of things, Brent Flores is a genius when it comes to figuring out sending guys as blitzes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That takes some time to kind of start to figure out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I personally think Caleb handled it pretty well, considering some of the stuff you was sending at him late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Greg, if I'm looking at to me, one of the concerns that I do need to start seeing a little bit more of is going to be that run game and I think moving forward in general, that's going to be a focal point for me is can they run the ball against some of these teams, especially in the NFC North because I don't see you letting a lot of games if you can't and I do think that was that affected some of the things that happened last week, do you think they get that going do I mean, do they have to stray away from Swift at all or do you think Swift can kind of figure things out there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I definitely want to see more common on guys this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big monunga, I'm a monunga, I'm a monunga, I am a monunga for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I want to see him get more cares.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had one, he had nine steps, they threw it to him one time and the one time they threw it to him, he had forward progress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made a guy miss, he got up field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's who he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they had him back in past protection at one point and he got a holding call, which I thought was a, a
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[SPEAKER_02]: crap call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He filled the middle of that hole and he laid the block.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see a hole there, personally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe the past protection is what's keeping him off the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, that's always a big hurdle for rookies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But ultimately, I want to see more of an unguy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the others with that thought ran hard in the second half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you saw it in the Kansas City Chief
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[SPEAKER_02]: The end of the third quarter, DeAndre Swift was the one that kind of set the tone on the drive that should have been, and I'm probably never going to let go of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I had to guess, we'll be the reason the bears don't make the playoffs at the end of the years, because of the holding call, I'm Darna Wright.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that's called a drive where DeAndre Swift really set the tone and got some big runs and then had a physical run where low man wins.
9:01
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets his helmet lower and drives that corner back for our first time and you could kind of feel the energy in the stadium with up when he did that because that's what we want to see here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it all starts with the offensive line with the run game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can talk about DeAndre's sort of common on guy that we want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing that was surprising to me, and I'd get, yes, we're going to have to give Minnesota Vikings deep inside a credit because they're very good and so is Bryan Flores.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was expecting the bears' offensive line to be a better run-blocking team than a past-blocking team to start the season, but it was actually the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: While there was mistakes, you know, I know Drew Domin and John Jackson missed some blocks and past protection at a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The run blocking, they weren't getting any push.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could talk about the Andres with not finding holes all you want, but there wasn't many holes for him to find in week one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to credit the Vikings, but I'm also challenging this offensive line to have a much better showing this week, because
10:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, like Braxon Jones, first and foremost is a bit of rum blocker that he's best blocker, and then all the way across the board, these guys, I was under the assumption that they were going to be moving that line of scrimmage more than what we saw in week one, so I'll credit my minutes so that all we want, but I need to see them moving that line of scrimmage much better here in week two.
10:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that stood out for a lot of people and you you expect improvements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You hope that maybe having just obviously more reps together and things like that start to help but it is something that you you definitely want to see start trending upwards because that was you invested a lot on that offensive line of soft season so you want to kind of reap what you
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[SPEAKER_01]: group some of those benefits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's look ahead to this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Detroit Lions, they kind of came they came out flat last week also.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of people are saying, you know, it's going to be that storyline of they lost both of both coordinators but Ben Johnson and his return to Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be the biggest thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it's going to be mentioned and talked about the entire broadcast and what that looks like throughout will be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you expecting from Ben and that sense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you could tell he was frustrated in moments during the game after some of the things he said after there's definitely stuff he wants to work on and felt like they could have done better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do feel like you and a moment like this you come out with a little extra fire and do you think maybe he held back offensively last week a little bit and unleashes more this weekend?
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[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of Ben, I mean, I definitely think now that he's got a full game film to understand what his team can do and what their limitations are and clean some things up and really emphasize some of the operational stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he'll feel more comfortable this week calling plays whereas last week it was like a getting to know you kind of period, even said about Caleb, like
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[SPEAKER_02]: during games and I think he was kind of speaking to like how do I get him to kind of center himself, you know, it's it's easy for me to say Caleb's got to calm down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's another thing when he's running for 60 yards and a touchdown he's doing all these different things like it's hard to stay calm when you got to do all these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You also got to kind of get amped up in order to make that inwards spin move up the sidelines and do all the different things that makes Caleb William special.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who his team is and what they need throughout the course of a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And really when you look at this coaching matchup, it is going to be really interesting and you can make the argument that while Kevin O'Connell might have had the upper hand definitely had the upper hand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Ben Johnson last week, just off of everything he's done the last few years and the foundation he's built in Minnesota,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Mike has Ben Johnson might have had his number in Detroit, but now that he's a first time at coach Kevin kind of had the edge and you saw that in the game Well now you go into week two
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I find the coaching matchups very fascinating, because you have Ben Johnson, offensive playcaller, going up against Kelvin Shepherd, the defensive coordinator for the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I give the edge there to Ben Johnson, because Ben has coached against this Lions defense the last three years in practice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and in training camp where a shepherd he's looking across hey I know who Ben is the person I know what he's trying to do but I don't know what he's trying to do with this team in Chicago and then when you flip it to the other side you got Dennis Allen going up against John Morton
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Dan Campbell, they're getting grilled about why they're not running the Ben Johnson offense still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're trying to figure out their identity as an offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And their offensive line took a big hit from what it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never mind the fact that they lost Ben Johnson as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now you got this defense coordinator in Dennis Allen, who didn't have his
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[SPEAKER_02]: three of his best defensive players and looking out well that he had that defense plan last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you get Jaylon Johnson to return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, TJ Edwards kids will see what we see what we see about Kyle or Gordon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I get the edge to Dennis Allen with John Morton still trying to figure out what they want to be from an identity standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when you look at Ben Johnson versus Dan Campbell, I, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Dan's certainly an aggressive, you know, coach and somebody the players will run through a brick wall floor and he's got the edge in terms of the foundational talent they have in Detroit that's been there and done that, but Ben knows everything Dan's trying to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll give the edge in terms of out thinking, you know, I ain't calling Dan Dung because I'm a big Dan Campbell guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was wanted to have a coach like that in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the kind of thing that I identify with is the bite your ankle, you know, call everybody out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I've got a lot of faith in Ben Johnson, so honestly, I think from a coaching standpoint, I think the bears do have the edges this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll eat my words with Sunday's over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's into Troy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to be an easy environment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think from a coaching standpoint, I do think the bears have the edge over to Troy.
15:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, uh, before I let you go, let's talk about a couple of those defensive things because Grady Jerry on the injury report today, too, which is probably one of the things you don't want to see.
15:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The defensive line was of concern coming in.
15:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you're hoping that an older Grady Jerry comes in and can make a difference.
15:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Gravond Dexter, I loved Gravond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my favorite players on the Bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think he played really well this last week and two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but you're expecting him to kind of continue to grow up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The past rush is an issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that Montess what doesn't get there as much as you want Montess what to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw a little bit from dial this last weekend, but not consistently from start to finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some question marks there when creating past rush, especially on the interior, and I do think that is a big part of what makes Dennis Allen defenses tick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know last week, I give props to the defense to your point because without three of your best defensive players, you were able to hold three quarters to making a lot of things look kind of hopeless for KOC and they caught up at the end, but you need that to continue four, four, four, four, four quarters obviously and not kind of get more down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are your expectations up front?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is Dennis Allen capable of kind of getting some more out of these guys creating some of some of the pressures and the sacks that an eber flu slash year wasn't able to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think with the return of Jalen Johnson, and hopefully the other returns for the other guys, the more those guys come back, the more Dennis Allen will be able to apply pressure at the line of scrimmage and put more guys in the box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Put more guys right in the quarterback's face, pre-snap, to make them think about something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he had to be careful about that last week when you don't have Kyler, you don't have Jalen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the Sean Wright gets hurt for a series in the fourth quarter of that hurts as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then never mind you also lose TJ Edwards, although Noah's so well, I thought did a really good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He led the team in tackles, but talking about the defensive line and just trying to key in on that.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Montez, what's got a step up guys?
17:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're, we're, we're, everybody's so hard on Dio Dango through the summer and, you know, it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For the poor guy, I think he heard it because he came out like he heard it guns a blaze and even at one point going like this to everybody We all deserved it and I was happy for him to come out and play that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was very encouraging and now it's time for months That's what to hold up his end in the bargain.
17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I understand Dennis Allen's defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's asking the defense events to kind of contain
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as the rush comes up the middle, that's a lot of what you saw in New Orleans with Dennis Allen.
17:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, Montes wet has to find a way to change games.
17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: He has to be a game record, one way or another.
17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just not hear in his name called enough.
17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know he had that one baton ball down in the fourth quarter that you know could have ended up being a big play, but they just couldn't hold on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they're at the end, but I just need more for Montes wet and, you know, it's past time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Last year, I think he was playing with an injury and everything kind of Montes, what was like 14th on the list of problems the bears were having last year.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this year, I think some of the problems are starting to get cleaned up and I don't want Montes wet start creeping into my top three top five problems that I'm looking at and after a week one,
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're asking me what were some of the biggest issues, is that we're not getting enough out of Montess what?
18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to be able to get back there and force some turnovers.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Diode Angbo almost had a force humble on the goal line in the first half on JJ McCarthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to see that kind of energy and intensity out of Montess what.
18:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you look at the run game, I think that's the thing that's getting under looked, in that fourth quarter for the Vikings, everybody's going to give JJ McCarthy all the flowers and give them player the weak awards and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes it look like safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They eighty two yards in a touchdown for the Vikings in the fourth quarter and I'm happy that I heard from Kevin Byer the other day say we're not pulling the finger, the defense like go over the rope in the fourth quarter and that's the kind of mentality that all these guys got to have.
19:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And it starts up front if you want to stop the run and you got to contain those edges and I just felt like they kind of fell apart there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I need a tone setting Sunday here on, you know, against the Troy for Montez sweat.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Greg, is that your ex factor though, is it stopping the run this weekend?
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that is probably the biggest thing to be able to do against the lines for scoff and to some bad decisions?
19:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think that, yes, if you, if you're going to key on one point around the defense, Montes, what's got to have a big week.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the way to unlock that and what we saw in training camp was because Montess had a great training camp, but what we saw a lot in training camp was then blitzing double safety blitz, litzing Kyler Gordon at every other play off the edge, you know, sending a lot of secondary blitzes, which then all of a sudden led to Montess what getting these one on ones where he's able to find his way to the quarterback.
20:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we saw enough of that in the first game because of the injuries, I understand why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think Dennis Allen, you've got an offensive line in Detroit that's still trying to figure out who they are and take rat legends as young like attack these guys, man.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Jericho, you're not playing the young quarterback like you were in week one, but you are playing an offensive line that
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[SPEAKER_02]: doesn't really know who they are yet.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So don't let them figure it out.
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Apply that pressure, start blitzing, and you saw it when they, when they sent the house on JJ, they got the pick six.
20:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
20:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want that aggressive mentality to stay here.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be afraid that you're into Troy and all the crowd going crazy.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: apply that pressure on that offensive line and I think that will open the door for, you know, uh, Montes, sweat, dialo, dangboat, jerk on dexter, you know, to be able to find their one-on-ones because they're worried about, you know, what secondary guys coming in and now they can find a way to get some force fumbles.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the amount of times that last week, I just kept yelling, send them, like send them, just go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to your point, I think you'll see more of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With JJ back there, you're definitely more confident in like forcing some of these pastors to throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Greg, I really appreciate your time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully this weekend's a lot more fun than at least the fourth quarter less of Monday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hope so because I ate an entire box of cats in the crunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tuesday morning and that was very healthy for me coming into a building because everybody knows I work in Jacksonville and so coming into a building the next day after that of people that are like what happened like oh you got the wrong coach we got Liam Cohen and you got Ben Johnson and a lot of lot of I was like don't even talk to you right now don't talk to me one week we're not doing this after one week so what can forward is a game and appreciate you bringing me out as always
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we will continue on and talk to Jeremy Riceman of Pride of Detroit on the lion side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're continuing on now the Bears Lions preview.
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm honestly kind of surprised this wasn't the week one game just because of all the storylines in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But joined by a friend of mine now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you're a friend now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Riceman, he's a Lions Beauty writer for Pride of Detroit.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeremy, thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've had you on a ton on here and on how much and he'll so appreciate you as always.
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, and yeah, we're friends now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can, we've made it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's jump in at the biggest, I mean, Ben Johnson's return to Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like may not be the warmest welcome by fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your expectations of this?
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, there's definitely a reason why he's known as Benedict around these parties days.
25:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, he's going to get good.
25:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's really interesting to see how lines fans have kind of reacted to the news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a hero here, what 10 months ago.
25:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Then a lot of people didn't like how the game plan worked against Washington in the playoffs and blamed him for maybe being a little too cutesy in certain moments and then you know 24 hours or 48 hours later he's he's with one of the teams biggest rivals and you kind of throw all those things together and yeah that they're they're not particularly happy there are some that still can look back at his time and you know the past four years here and Detroit as either the offensive coordinator of the Titans coach and and remember it fondly
26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think, you know, they're also like the kind of like semi cheap shots he threw it at a Jared Goff along the way after, but yeah, he's he's he's not thought of too highly by fans.
26:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say it's like it's completely different when you talk about the players the players still love him the players still adore him.
26:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on our talk about him today.
26:26
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, talking about how he owes a lot of his career and, and you know, basically just the, the, the, the, I say resurgence, but there wasn't really a down part to, I'm on our career.
26:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Credit to a lot to, to bed.
26:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And so inside the facility, I think there's nothing but respect outside the facility.
26:45
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of disrespect.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, honestly, a little similar when it comes to kind of the David Montgomery situation.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Monti.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He was our Monti and then he goes to Detroit and same.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a little like little jabs towards Pago and fans and things like that and it didn't go well, but I honestly I hate to even admit it but
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in raw has become one of my favorite people and I'm like, I feel like I should it like you, but just some of the things he's funny, he cracks me up his podcast obviously with Econi Mias who was a bear for a little bit, I think they do a really good job of that of keeping unbiased happening like they'll defend their stuff, but they still are really honest and he's defended Caleb, which obviously has us on his on his
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[SPEAKER_01]: good side at least in that area, but yeah it's going to be very interesting and I figured it wasn't going to be one of those like, yeah Ben, like there's not going to be a tribute at half time for Ben Johnson.
27:41
[SPEAKER_03]: No listen, if Matthew Stanford upon his return got boot like crazy and that guy put in 12 years of like really impressive, really hard work and he did stuff for the community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ben Johnson after he joins one of the biggest rivals.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry buddy, you're getting
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sure he's expecting that fully.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about last week just so we can slide on into this week because both teams losing week one, the lions a lot of things that probably I feel like to me are fixable things.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel like oh, no, the lions look totally lost and everything's done because they're in Glenn and.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson or God.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's way too much talent and Detroit for that to just completely fall apart and you know, over one off season just not be there whatsoever, but there was definitely some things that I'm sure that you guys are concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like maybe the run game being a part of that watching Jamir Gibbs 9 carries only 19 yards.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not something granted seeing him a little bit more on the receiving room, which you're used to that.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts when it comes to that?
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: What is maybe one thing last week that you think was the most concerned to you and one thing that you're like, okay, but they're still this?
28:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, the running game in particular are the offensive line play.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: That is, that is, remains the biggest concern.
28:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It was my biggest concern going into the season.
28:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You get three new pieces or at least three move-ground pieces on the interior that offensive line much like what's going on in Chicago where you have
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you lose Frank Ragnow obviously, so now you have Graham Glasgow sleep sliding in, he's center experience, but he's not an all pro like Frank Ragnow was, you have Tate Rattlage starting at right guard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As a rookie, and then you have Christian Mahogni last year's six run picks starting at left guard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that first game was, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hate to say it, but it was kind of a disaster with the entire offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't on the same page.
29:32
[SPEAKER_03]: There were a lot of communication issues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of what the buzzword has been out of Detroit this week is just, there were plays where two guys were running one play and three guys on the, on the offensive line were running a different play.
29:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it sounds like maybe they scaled some things back.
29:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They worked on some of the communication issues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: gave them so much problems in Lambo and they think it's going to turn around, but at the same time, you have two really, really young inexperienced players on that offense wine and the standard on that offense wine was so high in the past.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That feels like kind of a sinker swim with this entire season.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It's how quickly they can get all that stuff figured out.
30:07
[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of, you know, maybe something that didn't look good last week that I'm not as worried about,
30:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say to probably the past defense, they got in so many really good down in distances on defense, especially early in that game where I think on the opening drive alone green bay, converted a third and nine and a third and ten and a third and six, and that's just does not sustainable.
30:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And it wasn't sustainable the rest of the way.
30:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they converted one more third down the rest of the way.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And so
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[SPEAKER_03]: it cost them early in that game they got behind but two scores and then you know it's they're they're the kind of teamwork it's a little bit tougher for them to dig out of that because they're so relying on the run game when you get down multiple scores that kind of have to push away from it a little bit so past rush is still a relative concern for the lines but
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's better than what it looked like again, Screen Bay.
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought they had a good game plan for In Hutchinson, which was basically like double-team him all the time.
30:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And the lines didn't have a great plan to start out the game.
31:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, it was something where I thought they adjusted well in the second half, but the first half issues kind of took over and changed the way that game was going to go.
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now I feel like we all were kind of cursing at our TV screens or computer screens when we see Michael Parsons going to Green Day.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not something you wanted to see in the NFC North.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely not ideal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NFC North, I feel like outside of Chicago has a lot of past pressures that you're talking about at a high level.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You, there's one contest what to be that, but he has a quite lived up to what you hoped.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: you're hoping that Dennis Island can kind of bring that out and with some interior past rush it helps and maybe he can take off.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But everybody else in the NFC North, I feel like has past rushers after past rushers, especially the Vikings that the Bears just played.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They sent run flores sends everybody over there.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think so what is to you the biggest difference of what you saw and I know it's one game, so this is this very small sample size of but what that Aaron Glenn
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[SPEAKER_01]: defense kind of the mantra, the vibe of that defense compared to maybe what it looks like now and not saying good or bad, but just the differences of what it looks like schematically.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's all very subtle.
32:12
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the reason that they brought in Calvin Shepard, or they didn't bring him in.
32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: There isn't they promoted Calvin Shepard was because he had kind of been Aaron Glenn's protege.
32:20
[SPEAKER_03]: They had kind of been grooming him for that role for the past couple of years where to the point where he's watching the tape and trying to call
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[SPEAKER_03]: like rewatching the game and kind of predicting what the lines were actually did on that play and he became so good at it that it felt like this was kind of the the path of least resistance, but in the same way they really respect Calvin Shepherd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is very much a leader type in the same way Aaron Glenn was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: schematically you're really not going to see that many differences in training camp it seemed like they were a little bit more aggressive with the blitz but that is something that Aaron Glenn was definitely not afraid of doing.
32:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still going to be heavy in mancoverge which is something that was Aaron Glenn was a big fan of
33:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And so overall like it's it's certainly hard to kind of notice the differences kind of the one of the things that got highlighted from week one and it's not something that was completely formed in the lines before was dropping the defense of ends in the coverage so we had eight inches in drop in the coverage twice we had Marcus damn important drop in the coverage one time and all of them I think resulted in big or two out of three of them resulted in big place for the offense so they were like you know it.
33:27
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to do that.
33:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Anaconda does a pass for us or he is not a off ball linebacker.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So you probably won't see as much of that moving forward, but
33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's easy to forget that 8003 interceptions is rookie season.
33:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And a couple of those were those situations where you're sending pressures elsewhere, hoping it gets home and forces a quick throw and you don't expect to see eight in Hutchinson there and coverage, but it just didn't work because the lines have not been a particularly good blitzing team.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: The line backers aren't great at it.
33:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're still trying to figure out what's the best kind of combination of players to get a pass rush that is a little bit more effective.
34:05
[SPEAKER_01]: From the line side, obviously, when you watch that bears game, it was a few quarters of good and then a disaster of a fourth quarter.
34:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there was many things that led into that.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, we can make the longest.
34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need to go through everything.
34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also bears football, just collapse at the end.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: coming from the lines perspective, though, going into this game, let's talk about the defensively what Jared Goff and the run game are going against.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a defensive line that a lot of people want to see more out of, but that Jerome Dexter looked pretty good last week.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: People are kind of concerned, hoping that that continues Diodegbo, who was one of their offseason signings, probably had one of the better games.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so well as in for TJ Edwards last year and actually lived pretty good.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So there were some interesting things happening, but they were without Jalen Johnson, Kyler Gordon and TJ Edwards last year, and we're able to do what they did for those first three quarters.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we'll see what that looks like when kind of you're in week two and Jalen's hopefully back and TJ's hopefully back.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But what is the concern?
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I should have said concern, but what is the main focus?
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel like Lions fans media team is looking
35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's just a fascinating matchup because the bears are built at least schematically exactly like the lines are right they have Dennis Allen who comes from the Saints, which is where Aaron Glenn came from, so defensively we talked to John Morton today and Kelvin Shepherd, the lines offensive and defensive coordinators are like, yeah, this is just going to be like training camp practice.
35:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just going up against each other where we know the schemes front to back.
35:36
[SPEAKER_03]: we know what they want to do, we know what they are trying to manipulate us to do.
35:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's going to be a really interesting chess match.
35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, it may be less about like this unit for this unit, but like,
35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, how do you how do you go up against a mirror image of yourself and it's just it's it should be really really interesting because I do think like the lines offense theoretically would would would do well against a defense that plays a lot of man and and and sends a lot of pressure because that's something that that I think Jared golf can die diagnosed pretty quickly and you know I think the receivers are are better against man coverage than maybe in zone but at the same time this training camp the lines defense kind of
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[SPEAKER_03]: have the advantage over the offense, which is something we hadn't seen in a while.
36:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So
36:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
36:23
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, when you look at the matchup, it's like I said, it's very similar scheme, but it feels like the lines personnel is a little bit more advanced and a lot of them have been in this kind of defense and this kind of offense for a little bit longer.
36:35
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, there were enough bumps in the road in week one where I'm like, okay, maybe they're as far along in the in the scheme as I thought they were.
36:43
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to start, I think with both teams with that run game, right?
36:47
[SPEAKER_03]: They're
36:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I know the lines took it very personally that they averaged 2.1 yards per carry in that game.
36:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's the second worst during the entire Dan Campbell era.
36:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going back four years even when the, you know, the personnel wasn't as great back in 2021.
37:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where they're going to be focused on.
37:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's again, it kind of falls back on that offensive line and seeing how much, how much of a step they can take in in one week because it was brutal last week.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We had it.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I cried almost in the fourth quarter.
37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, it's week one.
37:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's relax a little bit.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It should have been.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want a little side though, because this has, on I'm sure you see it being in the lines of world too.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of discourse in their has with Caleb Williams.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something that just kind of surround him where there's a lot of negativity no matter what he does.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the things that a lot of people in the offseason were saying, quarterback guys, or Lovsky's one of them that said it, Kurt Warner kind of went through it this last week when dissecting the film and stuff like that about it's going to take time to get Ben Johnson's offense and really have control of what he does because it is so intricate and he as you've used the word perfectionist with me of how he is and you go back to that first year he was the play caller and Detroit and the line started one in six and it wasn't like
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Gough was had decent games like the I think that first game he had over 200 yards a couple touchdowns but he was only completing like 55% of passes or something like that and it gradually started to look like he was grassing it going back to that time is that something you remember like was it being talked about be patient with this offense or was it kind of like oh no Jared golf's not the guy.
38:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man, yeah, it didn't look good ever.
38:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And, but you know, the discourse around Jared Gough was all over the place at that moment, right?
38:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, you know, you're just, you're, you're, you're off the Matthew Stafford trade.
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You have all these extra first round picks that you got from the trade.
38:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And you just, there was still the conversation that he was a bridge quarterback back then, right?
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Where?
38:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
38:45
[SPEAKER_03]: The lines are just kind of keeping their head above water for a couple of years and making sure they're not a completed embarrassment, eventually they're going to spend one of these extra draft picks on the on the quarterback of the future and yeah, it was loud at that point it was it was very loud at that point even with some of the sprinkled in games even with, you know,
39:02
[SPEAKER_03]: What was at the time?
39:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe one of the worst defenses in football and that was a lot to blame for why they were one in six, but they were getting better.
39:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You could see the improvement week to week, you could see that they were really close in some of those first seven games of the season.
39:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Much like, you know, the bears are pretty darn close last night.
39:19
[SPEAKER_03]: It just took getting over that hump and then it just all came in a hurry and it wasn't necessarily just Jared Gough clicking It's it's it's the entire offense, right?
39:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the the receivers whose routes have to be so extremely precise It's the the offensive line all jelling together It's everyone under standing the scheme in a way where all the parts are moving together Now obviously it's a little bit of a different situation when you have Jared Gough a you know Six or seven year veteran at that point and you have someone like Caleb who's who's in year two, but
39:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this was something that I always kind of foresaw with the bears and it was why I was kind of excited to get them in week two instead of week six weeks seven week eight when some of those things started clicking, but
39:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I watched that Monday night game and I don't think it was terrible.
40:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't think that was far off from my expectations from the game.
40:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And in fact, what I came away more so than anything was just how well Caleb maneuvered the pocket.
40:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And he is such a hard guy to get a hold of.
40:16
[SPEAKER_03]: He is, I think he's got to be, if not the fastest quarterback in the league, like very, very close to the fastest quarterback in the league.
40:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's something that's always kind of given the line some trouble.
40:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's something that I'm definitely keeping an eye on this week.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's we know the biggest concerns about Caleb and the accuracy has been part of it, but a lot of it has been the holding the ball too long taking sacks when you could you shouldn't and that was some of the things we did see on Monday and proof he was getting the ball out faster for the most part he was when he when he wasn't taking 15 yard sacks like we saw last year.
40:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He did seem like he had a little extra speed.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the runs, the one down the sideline, I was like, oh, he turned on like some extra jets on that run.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And like he even looked back, I was like, oh, I've got this and kind of took off.
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is, there still you want to see some of those deep shots be real down a little bit.
41:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like maybe some of those are rushed.
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And those are the areas of concern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the bears have.
41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was kind of with you that I was Monday night.
41:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like this sucks, obviously, because you're devastated the way that it happened.
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: The next day when I went back and rewatched, I was kind of like, okay, there were some good things out of this.
41:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still room for improvement.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also took to your point.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I was expecting in week one for against the Vikings to put up, you know, 45 points in Caleb going, you know, whatever, even though he started 10 for 10 and there was a moment where like, oh, yeah.
41:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you also have to consider that that's the Minnesota Vikings defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Brian Flores in week one where like you don't know what you're going to see at any defense in week one yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Brian Flores, you don't know what you're going to get week so including week one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is a really tough as for for Caleb in his first day first game under Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So all things considered I would say bear's fan shouldn't feel too discouraged.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, before I let you go, what would be if you were to name an X factor for what you believe would lead to a lion's win?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What would be the one thing that you think they have to do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, probably multiple, but if there's a game, I just, I don't want to answer a run game for everything, so I'll try to mix it up a little bit here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think it's getting past rush from someone who isn't in Hutchinson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I imagine the bears are going to give him extra attention because
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[SPEAKER_03]: One, I think you should always do that with the team's best pass russia, but two, you saw the packers kind of utilize that game plan perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so someone else has to step up whether it is the guy opposite him in Marcus Devon, or the linebackers, who I think kind of failed in terms of their blitz packages.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they can't get to Caleb, I know kind of the mantra and Detroit this week will be more contained than actually get up field and try to get him because you can sidestep that stuff, but if you can just kind of tightly close the pocket on someone like Caleb, I think it might get him a little bit antsy, might get him raise some of those inaccurate pests in the game, and the line still haven't forced to turn over yet, so I think that's something that they're
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[SPEAKER_03]: by enclosing that pocket a little bit more that they increase their chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did Aiden still lead the team in Sachs last year?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He I believe he was tied with one of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he actually loved the team with it was six and a half and five games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was incredible by the way, but it also shows the kind of rest, but we get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Jimmy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I really appreciate your time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As always, I'm sure we have another game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's way down the final week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We gate teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see each other again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I appreciate your time as always.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, no problem at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.