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Fridays with Jack Windsor- Vivek's ad controversy · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Here at 55 care cd talk station a very happy
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  Speaker 1: friday to you always made extra special on a friday
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  Speaker 1: at this time we get the benefit of jack windsor
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  Speaker 1: from the ohio press network another site you should bookmark
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  Speaker 1: jack it's always a pleasure having you on the program
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  Speaker 1: good to see you this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Hey brian good to see you uh always good to
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  Speaker 2: see you and joe thanks for uh choosing me today.
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  Speaker 1: Oh happy to and i know you've been following this
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  Speaker 1: whole amy acton thing and it saddens my heart to
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  Speaker 1: know that the whole dominant discussion is no longer who's
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  Speaker 1: more qualified for the job but people's response and reaction
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  Speaker 1: to this ad involving Amy Acton's mom who accused her
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  Speaker 1: of being a serial liar. And Vivek Ramaswamy is just
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  Speaker 1: on talking about that. And he'll be on the program
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  Speaker 1: regularly between now and election day. And I just find
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  Speaker 1: him so much, I mean, objectively, you don't, Republican, Democrat,
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  Speaker 1: you put the resumes in front of you and you
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  Speaker 1: compare them. There is no question who is more competent
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  Speaker 1: for this role. And I, you know, as a libertarian, little,
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  Speaker 1: little libertarian guy, you know, if I'm looking at something and,
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  Speaker 1: The Republican candidate has this crappy resume, and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at a Democrat candidate who has lots of business success
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  Speaker 1: and has been around for a long time and has
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  Speaker 1: proven him or herself to be a valuable person in
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  Speaker 1: life generally. I would have to capitulate and say, why
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  Speaker 1: did the Republicans run this person?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, here we are.
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  Speaker 1: This is like dusting off Kamala Harris and just throwing
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  Speaker 1: her out as a warm body to run for governor
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  Speaker 1: of the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Jack?
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  Speaker 4: You know, Brian, there's so much here.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So the first thing is, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: came out of the gate and let me just qualify
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  Speaker 2: everything I'm about to say. I might be one of
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  Speaker 2: the few people in the state of Ohio who actually
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  Speaker 2: saw the commercial on TV. It wasn't a TV ad.
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  Speaker 2: It was on a streaming device. So the rules are different.
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  Speaker 2: But I actually saw it Monday night on Paramount Plus
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  Speaker 2: sitting with my wife. And I looked at her and
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  Speaker 2: I went, wow, OK, so there's Amy's mom. And, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What struck me the next day, I posted the video
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  Speaker 2: and my initial thought was exactly what Amy Acton's mom
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  Speaker 2: said is that Amy Acton is.
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  Speaker 4: A serial fabulous. She's lied a lot in her life.
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  Speaker 2: And what's really interesting to me, and we can talk
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  Speaker 2: about this if you want, is the way that going
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  Speaker 2: back to your comment about Kamala Harris and those types
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  Speaker 2: of candidates, Amy Acton largely hides in her basement like
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. And you go, well, how can she win
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  Speaker 2: an election doing that way? This example right here is how. Now,
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  Speaker 2: people will say the ad was about sexual abuse. I
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  Speaker 2: say the ad is about her mom calling her a
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  Speaker 2: serial liar.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, hold on real quick. Let me just interject because
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  Speaker 1: the ad isn't about sexual abuse. I did not know
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  Speaker 1: about those allegations before this ad issue came up. I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at it, Hulk, I mean, initial reaction with
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  Speaker 1: no background information and There's nothing in there that even
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  Speaker 1: brings up sexual abuse. So this whole deviation, diversion, look
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  Speaker 1: over there, look over there. I mean, this is all
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  Speaker 1: made up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's why. And I just got breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to go look at it. Apparently, there's some
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  Speaker 2: new information. You'll remember back a couple of months ago
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  Speaker 2: when Amy Acton was at the Mahoning County Fair and
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  Speaker 2: the man that was armed that lunged at her that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people tried to turn into an assassination attempt.
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  Speaker 2: That was a total nothing burger. Well, if you remember
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  Speaker 2: what happened, the Acton campaign put out a press release
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  Speaker 2: and then the press ran with it. That's problematic because
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  Speaker 2: we have what's called a primacy bias. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: you hear generally shapes your mind around that narrative and
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  Speaker 2: that story. So the press did it there and they
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  Speaker 2: missed the mark.
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  Speaker 4: They just did it again.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at what happened, I watched the ad.
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  Speaker 2: What I took away from the ad is Amy Acton's
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  Speaker 2: a liar. She's lying about living in that tent. But
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  Speaker 2: the next day, the press was running with Vivek Ramaswamy
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  Speaker 2: brought out Amy Acton's mom. This is all about sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 4: Here's why that happened.
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  Speaker 2: The press got a packet, again, from the Acton campaign.
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  Speaker 2: In that packet was their narrative. In that packet was
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  Speaker 2: a hand-selected number of legal documents. And they've tried to
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  Speaker 2: turn it into, out of the gate, a sexual abuse commercial.
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  Speaker 2: The press ran with it. Everybody's apoplectic about it. And
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  Speaker 2: the reason that that's working is that the press is
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  Speaker 2: limp and impotent. Not one member of the press, I'm
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  Speaker 2: willing to bet my house on this, went and pulled
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  Speaker 2: records by Tuesday morning to check anything out. They took
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  Speaker 2: the packet that Amy Acton's campaign gave to them, started
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  Speaker 2: writing their stories, started talking on air about the commercial
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  Speaker 2: from that lens.
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  Speaker 4: It is gross.
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  Speaker 2: It is you want to talk about disqualifying. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know a member of the press that shouldn't look in
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  Speaker 2: the mirror and be damn embarrassed about how they've handled
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  Speaker 2: themselves this entire week.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like when you take fake polls that were
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  Speaker 1: done as a social experiment, giving you absolute outright lies
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  Speaker 1: and then publishing them and having an impact on people's
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  Speaker 1: perception of the election, so much so that even a
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  Speaker 1: candidate will drop out of an election. Jack Wins will
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  Speaker 1: continue this discussion. TheOhioPressNetwork.com. More with Jack on this topic.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go away.
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  Speaker 3: 55KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: 839-55KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas here with Jack Windsor
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  Speaker 1: from the Ohio Press Network. OhioPressNetwork.com is where you find them. And, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: let us continue on the same theme, shall we? There's
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  Speaker 1: more out there to unpackage, most notably the double standard
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  Speaker 1: that you've written about over at the OhioPressNetwork.com.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm, what about that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Governor Mike DeWine yesterday had a, maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was an informal press gaggle at the Statehouse, and addressing
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  Speaker 2: members of the press, he talked about this ad and said,
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  Speaker 2: on its face, it's deeply, deeply troubling, but when you
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  Speaker 2: know the rest of the story, when you know the backstory, he.
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  Speaker 4: Went on to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about the backstory later and what he
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  Speaker 2: thinks he knows, what he knows, and How does he
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  Speaker 2: know that? But he didn't know that Amy Acton had
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  Speaker 2: the police called to her house in 2019.
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  Speaker 4: But I digress. But here's the issue with that.
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  Speaker 2: He started talking about his days as a prosecutor and
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  Speaker 2: how it's important.
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  Speaker 4: To protect children, particularly children who were abused. Brian, I
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  Speaker 4: think we all agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: My question for Governor Mike DeWine is, where was he
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  Speaker 2: about a week and a half ago when the Acton
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  Speaker 2: campaign went to work On a commercial that Vivek Ramaswamy
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  Speaker 2: had up, his campaign ran a property tax ad. It
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  Speaker 2: was built around a woman. Her name is Patty Edwards.
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  Speaker 2: It was filmed at the Lorain County Fair. Now, her
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  Speaker 2: husband is also in the frame. He shakes Vivek's hand
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  Speaker 2: and he's in the background with a bunch of other
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  Speaker 2: fair goers. I don't know who thought to do this,
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  Speaker 2: but somebody pulled his background and said this guy was
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  Speaker 2: convicted of gross sexual imposition 20 years ago. And apparently, allegedly,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get into that file, so I can't speak
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  Speaker 2: intelligently about it.
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  Speaker 4: It involved some family members.
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  Speaker 2: And so instead of just letting that go away quietly,
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  Speaker 2: the Acton campaign put out a press release. Amy Acton
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  Speaker 2: went on TV and talked about how Vivek Ramaswamy platformed
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  Speaker 2: this pedophile and really, 20 years.
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  Speaker 4: Later, brought this into the spotlight again.
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  Speaker 2: And probably put the family through the same trauma they
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  Speaker 2: went through 20 years ago. So my question to Governor
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  Speaker 2: Mike DeWine is where the hell were you a week ago?
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't you call a press conference and say, Amy Acton,
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  Speaker 2: you need to stop talking about this as a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried about these kids who were abused and you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get one over on your opponent at the
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  Speaker 2: expense of these sexually abused kids is out of bounds.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody else in the press is talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's just one double standard. And this is really what
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  Speaker 2: irks me. We can talk about the Donna Arthur ad
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  Speaker 2: all day long. But until people start raising hell about
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  Speaker 2: the fact you either have a standard or you don't
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  Speaker 2: and you either have equal justice under the law.
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  Speaker 4: Or you don't.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have Republican governors applying standards differently to
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  Speaker 2: Democrats in the favor of Democrats over Republicans. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how upside down is our world right now?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Mike DeWine's governor of the state of Ohio. He's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be a Republican. He was out there pretty
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  Speaker 1: much defending Amy Acton's tenure as medical director, for God's sake.
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  Speaker 1: Amy locked down Acton, who quit the job shortly after
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  Speaker 1: locking us all down. I mean, is he embarrassed that
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  Speaker 1: his hand-selected person turned out to totally screw up? Is
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  Speaker 1: that the reason he feels the need to defend her,
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  Speaker 1: at least outwardly? A Republican governor batting for Amy Acton
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  Speaker 1: when she's in the middle of a race with a
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  Speaker 1: demonstrably superior candidate? Has Governor DeWine really come out strong
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  Speaker 1: for Vivek Ramaswamy? What's his problem with Vivek Ramaswamy in
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  Speaker 1: the first place? Is he afraid that Vivek Ramaswamy is
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  Speaker 1: going to be demonstrably more competent as a governor than
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  Speaker 1: DeWine ever could hope to have been?
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps that's it. He's afraid of his legacy.
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  Speaker 1: Not that he has one to work on, but if
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy becomes governor, it's going to make Mike DeWine
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  Speaker 1: look that.
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  Speaker 3: Much worse, Jack.
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  Speaker 2: My question for voters who are fair-minded, right, and I
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  Speaker 2: realize most of us are baked in our minds right
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  Speaker 2: now how we're going to But name a governor and
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  Speaker 2: name a health director that was more catastrophic to the
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  Speaker 2: state of Ohio than Mike DeWine and Amy Acton.
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  Speaker 4: I can't think of one.
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton, our kids are still suffering from education loss.
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  Speaker 2: I talked to business owners on the regular who lost
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  Speaker 2: their companies for good. People who had small companies and
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  Speaker 2: they had to be shuttered because Amy Acton and her
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  Speaker 2: cronies decided they were non-essential. But you could go do
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  Speaker 2: business at a big box store, and that was okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she eroded trust in public health. She created this.
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  Speaker 2: narrative that if you didn't mask up, and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: masks didn't work, they still don't work, that you were
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  Speaker 2: not protecting grandma. What she did to the state of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio is the most catastrophic thing I've ever seen from
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  Speaker 2: an official, elected or a bureaucrat. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what Ohioans need to remember. Do you want this woman...
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  Speaker 2: What happens if this Russia flu takes off? What happens
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  Speaker 2: if we have to go through COVID all over again
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  Speaker 2: and Amy Acton's in the governor's chair?
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  Speaker 4: My Lord, can you imagine?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just look at Florida.
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  Speaker 1: They came out smelling like a rose and actually better
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  Speaker 1: off than everybody else after the whole thing. And they
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  Speaker 1: didn't really lift a finger to do a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: because they looked into what was capable and what was not.
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  Speaker 1: They looked into the science and found out, oh, there
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  Speaker 1: are differences of opinion out there.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to go down the lockdown mask road.
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  Speaker 1: We're just going to allow people to go about with
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  Speaker 1: their lives and People who are in, well, the chronically ill,
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  Speaker 1: those are the ones we'll focus on because they're the
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  Speaker 1: ones most likely to succumb to the disease.
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  Speaker 3: Worked out a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: And don't forget, Jack, we're talking about lockdowns and you
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  Speaker 1: can shop at a Home Depot, but you can't shop
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  Speaker 1: at your local mom and pop store.
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  Speaker 3: Was it Mike.
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  Speaker 1: DeWine's idea that you could drink at a bar until 10,
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  Speaker 1: but then couldn't drink after 10 p.m. because of COVID?
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  Speaker 1: You could stay there, but you just can't drink. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you think that was Mike's or that was Amy's, Jack?
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  Speaker 1: Just throwing it out.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was probably Amy wanting to do everything
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  Speaker 2: she could to keep everybody locked down as much as possible.
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  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day, and I hear it
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  Speaker 2: again presently, that people like John Husted were really trying
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes to get things opened up. But I
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  Speaker 2: think Amy Acton was trying to, you know, tighten the
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  Speaker 2: screws as much as she could to shut everything down. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, luckily there were me and maybe a
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  Speaker 2: couple other people were asking some hard questions back then
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  Speaker 2: that had people go, wait a minute to your point.
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  Speaker 2: Does COVID get worse after 10 PM?
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  Speaker 4: Um, does short people not have to worry?
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  Speaker 2: Cause you can take your mask off when you sit down, uh,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to have it on when you stand up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was so asinine.
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  Speaker 3: It without question.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do one more segment here with Jack Windsor as
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  Speaker 1: we close out a Friday morning show.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go away. It's eight 46 55 KRC.com.
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  Speaker 1: It's 849 at 55 KRC Detox Station. Enjoying, as I
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  Speaker 1: always do, conversation with Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network.
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  Speaker 1: As always, bookmark the site, theohiopressnetwork.com. Jack, any more that
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  Speaker 1: we need to talk about with this acting situation going on?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of details out there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's so many different angles.
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  Speaker 2: I really am kind of at a loss this morning
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  Speaker 2: other than when I see that commercial, I've watched it
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  Speaker 2: a couple of times, is, you know, she's a serial fabulist.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the point. Shame on the press for
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  Speaker 2: doing the bidding of Amy Acton. And this is what
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  Speaker 2: allows her to stay in the basement, right? The press
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  Speaker 2: does the hard work for her. I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who are nervous about
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  Speaker 2: the ad and the fact that Vivek is doubling down,
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  Speaker 2: putting $ 4 million behind it. Trump came out and supported it.
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  Speaker 3: J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Vance had some very salient and resonant things about it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to be the tail of the tape.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I believe, just talking about the political side
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  Speaker 2: of it. I don't think Vivek Ramaswamy would put $ 4
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  Speaker 2: million behind an ad that wasn't working. And I think
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  Speaker 2: about my dad, who's 82 years old, and he's going
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  Speaker 2: to see that ad.
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  Speaker 4: He's not on Twitter. He's not on Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: He's not doing the slap tickle fights that the progressives
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  Speaker 2: like to do online to try to smear everybody. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to look at that and go, yeah, I thought
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton was kind of a fibber and her mom
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  Speaker 2: says she's a liar or she's probably a liar. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's how most people are going to take it.
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  Speaker 3: Jack, that was basically my reaction.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm no fan of Amy Acton was I before
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  Speaker 1: I saw that ad, but again, I came completely clear
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  Speaker 1: with no prior information about that point in her life
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  Speaker 1: or any stories about abuse or anything about her childhood.
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  Speaker 1: If it was out there, then you can fault Brian
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  Speaker 1: Thomas for not looking close enough because I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: care enough or I just didn't see it, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. And that's where your dad is. His reaction,
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't know, would be exactly what mine was like. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: that's a bombshell right there.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. And, you know, we won't do it today.
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  Speaker 2: But I did talk to Donna Arthur back in 2020,
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton's mom. I was one of a handful of people.
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  Speaker 2: She did the interview with Operation Rescue that was published.
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  Speaker 2: But I talked to her after that and got some
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  Speaker 2: additional information. And all I'm going to say is this.
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  Speaker 2: Shame on the press. And shame on Mike DeWine.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: We don't really need to dive into Amy Acton's past
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  Speaker 2: and adjudicate in the court of public opinion whether she
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  Speaker 2: was raped or not.
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  Speaker 4: Not my job. I don't want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that wants to talk through that.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're going to use the sexual abuse claim
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  Speaker 2: now as a campaign talking point, then you owe it
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  Speaker 2: to everybody to tell the whole story. And I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to tell you this and leave it at this. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: knows the whole story. I talked to Amy's mom.
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  Speaker 4: About this in 2020. And if anybody would.
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  Speaker 2: Dare to actually talk to the woman, go back and
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  Speaker 2: do some fair-minded research, they would go, okay, I could
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  Speaker 2: see that there might be more angles to this. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really wants to do that. I
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  Speaker 2: think all the left wants to do, and they're doing
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  Speaker 2: it successfully because this is what they do. They create
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  Speaker 2: a narrative. They get the press to continue to parrot it.
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  Speaker 2: And then they point at Republicans and go, look how
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  Speaker 2: bad these Republicans are. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a winning strategy for them.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of Republicans are nervous whether
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  Speaker 2: this is a winning strategy for Vivek.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to find out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm certain we'll probably have poll numbers in the next
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  Speaker 2: five days, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any faith left in the polls, Jack?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously.
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  Speaker 4: Internal polls.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if I if I if I'm talking to
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  Speaker 2: a campaign and I say, you know, what are your
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: internals and, you know, kind of talking through that? No,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I don't like I think Fox came out yesterday.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Brown is up five.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: He was up eight. He's up five. Vivek is down two.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I consider any I always look at a poll, whether
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it's Fox, whether it's New York Times, CNN or whatever.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: And I always think I'm going to add anywhere from
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: five to eight points to that in favor of the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Republican because they always miss the mark. So if that
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: is the case, Husted is neck and neck. Vivek might
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: be up a couple. And at the end of the day,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: this is going to come down to turnout. Republicans have
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to go out and vote.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Overwhelm them. That's the point. And hold your nose.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: If this isn't an ideal Republican candidate, you know, I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: don't like a brown man being governor of the state
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. Well, you're a racist if you say that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: But if you're even feeling that way, let's suspend your
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: racism for this race. Let's vote for the guy who's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: going to lead the state in the right direction that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: will ultimately benefit even the racists who don't want to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: vote for him because he's a person of color.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Right, Jack?
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Here, let me say this.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Get honest with yourself, voters. Do you know what the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: message is from the acting campaign? Vivek Ramaswamy is a
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: bad man because he's a billionaire.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I want my kids to see leaders and elected officials
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: who praise success, not talk about success like, Somebody had
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: to do something wrong in order to get it. What
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: the hell are we doing? Nothing that she says resonates
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: with me.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It's an illustration of how they capitalize on the innate
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: sense of covetousness we live with. That's why it's a sin, Jack.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Just because someone else has more, don't be bummed out
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Think it's unfair.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: You don't know how that person lived their life. Walk
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a mile in their shoes, you might figure out how
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: it is they became wealthy, and perhaps that you didn't.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to, in my station of life, Jack, I'm
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: totally comfortable with it. knowing full well that I'll never
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: have a billion dollars. But then again, you know what?
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: That's okay. I worked hard.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I have a house over my head. I got my
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: clothes on my back. I can feed my family along
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: with a lot of help for my wife. But we've
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: been able to take care of ourselves. And that's what
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: more can you ask from a human being? But when
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: they want to run a state, they better come with
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: something more than don't vote for him because he's successful
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and a billionaire. That's just capitalizing on greed and envy.