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Chuck & Buck 12-10 Hour 1: Here comes Phillip Rivers! Are bowl games on the way out and should they be? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: Hey, good Wednesday morning to you. That's right, it's a
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Speaker 5: And it wasn't too bad?
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Speaker 6: I will say we've definitely had days where it's been
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Speaker 6: raining harder on the way to work.
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Speaker 5: But there's just a lot of water out there.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of water, and then there are a
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Speaker 2: lot of people will afraid all the water, yeah, and
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Speaker 2: then there are a lot of people not afraid at all,
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Speaker 5: And those people should maybe be a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: Afraid, And it's a little terrifying at times.
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Speaker 5: That's the thing they don't realize.
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Speaker 6: When you hit water going eighty you spray it on
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Speaker 6: the cars behind you or to the side of you,
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Speaker 6: and then they can't see.
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Speaker 2: You know what I like doing while I'm operating a
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Speaker 2: heavy piece of equipment at sixty miles per hour, driving blind, enjoying.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is fun. Sometimes I put an just to
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Speaker 5: see what it's like, bring a new element. It does.
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Speaker 1: Drive.
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Speaker 6: Otherwise it's like, oh God, I did the same thing here. Okay,
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Speaker 6: that was safe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I took a little longer than normal to get in,
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Speaker 2: so I'll save some time out there for all of
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Speaker 2: you out there, save a little bit of time because
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Speaker 2: you might need an extra five minutes, four and a half.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got here a little early and finished my
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Speaker 5: makeup in the car in the garage. Did you really Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I've been doing that lately.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just I'm like, oh that, don't leave my house.
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Speaker 5: Then I know I have plenty of time. And then
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Speaker 5: I finished down in the garage and then I come
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Speaker 5: on up.
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Speaker 2: It is one thing that I've never had to factor
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Speaker 2: into my morning play.
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Speaker 5: Doing your hair.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well I used to have to, Like I
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Speaker 2: used to probably worry about my hair more than.
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Speaker 1: I should have.
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Speaker 2: Day Now I think back on like, why did I
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Speaker 2: ever spend one second wearring about my hair? Yeah.
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Speaker 6: The good news is they're going to get cameras that
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Speaker 6: work in here soon, so then I'm going to be like, oh, great,
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Speaker 6: now I really have to worry.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I should have just shaved my I should have
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Speaker 2: just shaved my head in high school. I really believe
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Speaker 2: that that is the one area where it's like, uh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you have some regrets in life, But I wish that
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have worried about whether or not I had
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Speaker 2: the latest horrible hairdo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah school, Yeah, without hair that I had hair. Uh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, then then there was the awkward period of trying
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Speaker 2: to pretend that I had hair, like trying to maximize
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Speaker 2: what little hair that I had, and trying to like, ah,
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Speaker 2: how do I how do I wear this where I'm
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Speaker 2: not trying to do a comb over and I'm you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not gallagher ing it or Michael boltoning it, but
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Speaker 2: I at least one to not give into the head
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Speaker 2: shave too soon. So then I had that period of
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Speaker 2: time and even that I find silly.
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Speaker 1: Now, well that's the worst. Yeah, that's the worst.
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Speaker 4: Anybody that's like, if it's going, just just just let it.
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Speaker 2: Go, hang on.
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Speaker 1: It's a bad, bad look.
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Speaker 4: Mine was. Yeah, I didn't have that very long it
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Speaker 4: was going. And then it coincided with the first time
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Speaker 4: my mother had breast cancer and she's good to go
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Speaker 4: now for it for what it's worth. And and yet
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Speaker 4: so I shaved my head when I went home to
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Speaker 4: see her, and then it just didn't come back at all.
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Speaker 1: So it was starting to fade.
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Speaker 4: Shave my head, and it just quit like, well that
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Speaker 4: was it that you hope you enjoyed it while you
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Speaker 4: had it, which I did, I mean mullet, perm mullet
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Speaker 4: and all I enjoyed it while I had it. And
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Speaker 4: then now I was like, well, I guess that decision
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Speaker 4: has been made for me.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Remember back in nineteen ninety when you and I and
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers were all at the malt shop together, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: same age, you know, talking about our mullets and wondering
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Speaker 2: what we should do with him. Seemed like some of
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Speaker 2: the fancier kids were starting to get rid of theirs.
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Speaker 2: We were wondering if that was jumping the gun a
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Speaker 2: little bit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Philip Hillis was.
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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, Philip lee this baby, oh man. We
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Speaker 2: always looked up to him, him being the older one
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Speaker 2: of the three of us, him being the senior and
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Speaker 2: me the junior and you the freshman.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, advice I should.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he knows a whole hell of a lot
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Speaker 1: more about it than I do.
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Speaker 5: Uh you know, there there there has.
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Speaker 2: Been a lot of talk about how old he is.
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Speaker 2: It's not how old he is. I mean he's forty
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Speaker 2: four years old. Tom Brady played till he was forty
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Speaker 2: four years old. Aaron Rodgers right now is forty two, right.
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Speaker 2: But they yeah, and so it's not really that he's
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Speaker 2: all that old. I mean the concern is how long
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Speaker 2: he's been away from the game. Yeah, and he's on
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame ballot. I mean think about that.
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Speaker 2: You have to be out the finalists. Yeah, yeah, you
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Speaker 2: just to be all it doesn't matter if he's a finalist,
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Speaker 2: just to be on the ballot. Is that he's been
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Speaker 2: away from the game for what is that five years mandatory?
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Speaker 2: Five years before you can get on the on the ballot?
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Speaker 2: And man, I mean I've watched coaches try to come
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Speaker 2: back after taking a couple of years off and the
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Speaker 2: game is like, oh boy, this is really sped up
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Speaker 2: on me. And so for a quarterback playing that position
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Speaker 2: to be away from that long, I mean, it's a
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Speaker 2: great story and I'm here for it. And I hope
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Speaker 2: he plays. I know he's not going to, but I
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Speaker 2: hope he plays against us on Sunday, but I look
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Speaker 2: forward to I think he is gonna play. I don't
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Speaker 2: think he's going through all of this just to get
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Speaker 2: a break from his grandchildren. I think he's gonna play
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Speaker 2: at some point. I think that's the plan, is to
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Speaker 2: have him play. I don't think he's coming back to
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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts and going through all of this just
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Speaker 2: to remain on the practice squad all year long. He
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Speaker 2: won't play Sunday. But I mean, I'm fascinated for the story.
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Speaker 2: I hope he pulls it off. I hope he looks
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Speaker 2: good when he does come back. But my guess is,
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Speaker 2: and I have a hard time believing anybody wouldn't guess this,
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Speaker 2: that coming back after five years off, trying to pick
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Speaker 2: it up in the middle of the year facing today's
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Speaker 2: complex defenses. I mean, there was a story JJ Watts like, No,
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Speaker 2: he knows the offense. He runs it on his high
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Speaker 2: school team as the coach. Well, he doesn't run it
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Speaker 2: against defenses in the national foot he doesn't run it
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Speaker 2: against Mike McDonald's.
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Speaker 1: Of the world.
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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that it's going to be ugly
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Speaker 2: and it's just going to be too much. But hey,
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Speaker 2: I got a front row seat for this, the Philip
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Speaker 2: Rivers come back.
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Speaker 1: I'm all for watching it.
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Speaker 4: I think it'd be a cool story if it doesn't
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Speaker 4: absolutely flop whenever it is that he he steps on
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Speaker 4: the field. I mean, I would just think it would
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Speaker 4: take a second for those quick windows like he's been coaching.
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Speaker 4: So it's not like he doesn't isn't around the game.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure he still throws a football like he wouldn't
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Speaker 4: come back, like if he hadn't picked up a football
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Speaker 4: in five years.
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think I still got it.
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Speaker 4: You know, he still can probably shot put it as
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Speaker 4: well as he ever could, or as well as he
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Speaker 4: could when he left five years ago. He's probably still
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Speaker 4: got that. It's just the timing part of it, I think,
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Speaker 4: the understanding of it, and then what he'll be able
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Speaker 4: to do in a room with his coaches of hey,
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Speaker 4: this play, yes, that play no. I mean, because it's
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Speaker 4: like any new quarterback. I mean when you put Riley
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Speaker 4: Leonard in there, if he hadn't gotten hurt, you were
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Speaker 4: gonna have to abbreviate things to some degree because he
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Speaker 4: hadn't been getting reps all season long. If it's a
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Speaker 4: guy that's on the practice squad, you're gonna have to
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Speaker 4: abbreviate things because there's a reason he was on the
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Speaker 4: practice squad. And so I think you abbreviate some degree.
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Speaker 4: He probably brings some stuff to the table, like, hey,
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Speaker 4: this is a play that I've had every single year,
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Speaker 4: no matter who my offensive coordinator was. It works, you know.
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Speaker 4: I mean, like here, this is the philis quivers playbook.
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Speaker 4: I want to institute some of these things into.
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Speaker 1: Your call sheet.
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Speaker 4: So I think that it's it's not completely unlikely that
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Speaker 4: it comes out there and does enough. Especially with a
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Speaker 4: good run game and a good defense, He's going to
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Speaker 4: know how to do that. It's just that, yeah, the
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Speaker 4: time away and the speed of the game. I would
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Speaker 4: have to think it's like going from an off season
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Speaker 4: to spring training. It just all of a sudden feels
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Speaker 4: like I didn't take any time off except for one
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Speaker 4: off season where I still was training and everything felt
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Speaker 4: faster than it was did at the end of the season.
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Speaker 4: I mean, whether it's a throw that just feels harder
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Speaker 4: to catch her, just seeing pitches, you're like, man, I'm
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Speaker 4: not ready for an eighty nine Mondar slider right now,
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Speaker 4: there's no chance. And yet you know, two months fast
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Speaker 4: forwarded and all of a sudden you've seen a few
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Speaker 4: of them and it doesn't seem so daunting. So I
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Speaker 4: think that there's a chance he could come out and
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Speaker 4: do it because that is a good team. It was
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Speaker 4: a good team. I think it's a good team. I
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Speaker 4: didn't know for sure, but at one point this season
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Speaker 4: they were rocking and rolling. So he might be able
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Speaker 4: to do it, but I wouldn't expect it would be
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Speaker 4: right off the bat. And if it was right off
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Speaker 4: the bat, after you know, five years off and five
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Speaker 4: days back in a locker room, if he was to play.
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Speaker 1: This week, that would be a real uphill class. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I just can't imagine.
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Speaker 2: And I don't even think that that's even in the
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Speaker 2: discussion right now. Yeah, I think it's gonna be Brett
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Speaker 2: Rippen or Riley Leonard, if Riley Leonard can can rally.
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Speaker 2: But I mean if Riley Leonard can't play, he is
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Speaker 2: going to at very least be the backup because they
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Speaker 2: don't have another quarterback. I mean, their emergency quarterback on
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Speaker 2: Sunday because Rippin was on the practice squad was Tyler Warren.
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Speaker 2: They're tied in because Tyler Warren played, took a few
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Speaker 2: snaps at quarterback at Penn State, and was a high
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Speaker 2: school quarterback. And so I mean, if Riley Leonard can't go.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the sideline. And if Ripping goes
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Speaker 2: down and stranger things have happened than that, then Philip
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Speaker 2: Rivers will trot out on the field on Sunday and
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Speaker 2: play for the Indianapolis Colts against Mike McDonald's defence. Good luck, brother, Oh, I.
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Speaker 6: Don't even be at that game yelling my ass off
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Speaker 6: for them to just annihilate him.
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Speaker 2: So you have no spot in your heart for the
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Speaker 2: old man coming back to the national foot.
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Speaker 5: Have a spot in my heart for anyone we're playing.
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Speaker 2: Wow, well I think you'll. I mean, that didn't even
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Speaker 2: be strange for me. If I'm Mike McDonald, like having
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Speaker 2: to prepare for him.
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Speaker 6: What if they just go up and like touch him,
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Speaker 6: They're like you're okay.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just go down, man.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to hurt you.
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Speaker 5: They touch him and he just sits down.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to break your hip, man.
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Speaker 4: Yeah they won't. Mike McDonald be like, hey, he wanted
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Speaker 4: to come back, that's right, that's what he's gonna do.
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Speaker 4: But it would be kind of it would be kind
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Speaker 4: of interesting if the d lineman first time he kind
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Speaker 4: of ran by him, like you better just hit the
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Speaker 4: deck because I will break your hip and you don't
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Speaker 4: have that button to call, Like I'm falling and I
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Speaker 4: can't get up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, alert, But uh, nonetheless, I mean, heck of a story,
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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And so I mean there
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Speaker 2: are there are dominoes that can fall between now and
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Speaker 2: the end of Sunday's game where Philip Rivers is back
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Speaker 2: playing in an NFL game. I mean that scenario does
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Speaker 2: exist out there. But and so I don't know how
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Speaker 2: much time they'll spend preparing for that. If you're the Seahawks,
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're sweating him. I don't think that
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Speaker 2: they're going back. Oh go get me some old Philip
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Speaker 2: Rivers tape. I don't think Mike McDonald's pulling that one.
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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I mean there is chance that we could
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Speaker 2: face him this Sunday, forty four years old, five years
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Speaker 2: away from the game, and and I mean he's kept
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Speaker 2: his name up and out there that he's wanted to
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Speaker 2: come back for a while, and he was obviously quite
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Speaker 2: serious about it. So it's great. I mean I do
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Speaker 2: love the story, and and yeah, if he trots out
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Speaker 2: onto the field this Sunday, that's that's certainly going to
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Speaker 2: be worth watching. Daniel Jones, by the way, to him,
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Speaker 2: I mean, think about how far I mean, this line's
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Speaker 2: now at like thirteen and a half, fourteen points.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it probably would have been four and a half.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, five and a half maybe the way they were playing,
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Speaker 2: because they were starting to decline. But it shows you
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Speaker 2: what a different Daniel Jones has made with the Indianapolis Colts.
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Speaker 2: Now the backup supposed to be Anthony Richardson, but he's
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Speaker 2: out too with his own weird injury. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: just think about all the events that had to take
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Speaker 2: place for Philip Rivers to possibly be facing the Seahawks
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Speaker 2: on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a cool story, I mean, and it's
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Speaker 4: kind of a last ditch hope, you know. I mean
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Speaker 4: Riley Leonard I think, but was decent apparently by a
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Speaker 4: lot of people's opinion before he got hurt when he
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Speaker 4: came in.
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Speaker 2: He's not going to play this Sunday because Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: got left out of the playoff.
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Speaker 1: That's oh, I'm not gonna do it.
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Speaker 2: He's perfectly healthy, just like Notre Dame's just boycotting all
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Speaker 2: football for a long while.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ballsy, ballsy move kid, you get your opportunity,
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Speaker 4: want to take that one now. But he has a
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Speaker 4: grade one like pcl Sprain or something, So who knows
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Speaker 4: if he's gonna go.
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Speaker 1: I've seen the.
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Speaker 4: Ripping kid play when he was like on the you know,
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Speaker 4: preseason roster with the Broncos, and it's not altogether horrible,
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Speaker 4: but at the same time, it's it's it's not it's
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Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I can see why you were getting
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Speaker 4: to wear a uniform, and yet I've I can see
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Speaker 4: why you're not a starter, why you're not somebody that
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Speaker 4: was a franchise quarterback in anyone's eyes, And so give
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Speaker 4: me uphill sledding for whoever it is that has to,
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Speaker 4: you know, take snaps against this defense.
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Speaker 1: We've seen that all year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's no getting around it. The Seahawks do
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Speaker 2: have the do receive their fair share of quarterback luck, if.
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Speaker 1: You want to look at it that way.
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Speaker 6: Well, in the past, so that wasn't luck, we'd still
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Speaker 6: lose to backup. So thank goodness, we're better now.
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Speaker 2: Well, they seem to face Buggy and I have talked
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Speaker 2: about this for years. They seem to face more back
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Speaker 2: up quarterback you know, got injured the week before situation
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Speaker 2: than any other team in the sport. That's how it
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Speaker 2: seems they do. I've done the mask, oh have you?
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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that a little bit later on
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Speaker 2: in the show. All right, let's find out what's on
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Speaker 2: tap for the rest of the program.
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Speaker 1: What's on TEP, what's on tech? All right?
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Speaker 2: Seahawks Colts Sunday at one twenty five here in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: Greg Bell will be joining us today at seven oh
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Speaker 2: five to give us the latest tier on a hump
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Speaker 2: day as we start to focus our attention on the
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, and maybe we will talk about something more
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Speaker 2: than Philip Rivers, because we do have to start breaking
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Speaker 2: down this opponent for the upcoming week. Week number fifteen
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Speaker 2: of the NFL season starts tomorrow night. It will be
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Speaker 2: Atlanta at Tampa for Thursday Night football and for many people,
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Speaker 2: the start of the fantasy football season. Are you playing
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Speaker 2: anybody tomorrow?
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I got a Falcon, You got.
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Speaker 1: A buck of air?
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Speaker 5: No, I don't have any either team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Chris god Ashley and I are going
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Speaker 2: against one another in our playoff And a little history
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Speaker 2: on Ashley and I's fantasy football experience together.
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Speaker 1: I lose every time to her.
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Speaker 5: I hope you lose again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I beat Bucky every time. Ashley beats me every
16:12
Speaker 2: time Bucky beats at Yeah, every day. It's kind of
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Speaker 2: the way it works. So the experts know this. That's
16:19
Speaker 2: why I'm a considerable underdog going into the game. But
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Speaker 2: the website says we're dead even so we shall see.
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Speaker 2: I do have Chris Godwin Junior, but I don't trust
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Speaker 2: him enough to play him in a playoff game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I could understand that college football, the LA Bowl is
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Speaker 2: this Saturday, and I don't really care about it, but
16:38
Speaker 2: a lot of people do, and so we'll spend some
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Speaker 2: time previewing that as U dub gets at least gets
16:44
Speaker 2: their bowl game out of the way quickly. They will
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Speaker 2: be playing this Saturday. Unlike some programs out there that
16:50
Speaker 2: have decided to pass, Army Navy have not decided to.
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Speaker 1: Pass this year. They're going to play. Oh that's good.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna checked in on that.
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Speaker 4: They didn't get voted in, but they're okay, yeap breaking news.
17:03
Speaker 2: Army and Navy will really exciting.
17:06
Speaker 4: I would say I think that those were on the
17:08
Speaker 4: fence on that at bit. Well, I just think those
17:10
Speaker 4: two teams typically will go out from do this showdown. Yeah,
17:14
Speaker 4: but I don't see one of them, Like, I don't
17:17
Speaker 4: feel like it this year.
17:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:18
Speaker 2: It seems like I heard Mark James maybe give a
17:20
Speaker 2: hot take about how Navy I.
17:21
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised.
17:28
Speaker 2: I'm kidding Army Navy on Saturday. It's also the Heisman
17:32
Speaker 2: Trophy is going to be rewarded on Saturday. It seems
17:35
Speaker 2: like a foregone conclusion. I don't know if people trying
17:38
Speaker 2: to convince themselves that there's there might be a surprise,
17:43
Speaker 2: which would be fun. It's always fun. When's the last
17:46
Speaker 2: time I got surprised by a Heisman Trophy winner. It's
17:49
Speaker 2: been a long time. Usually we get to Saturday and
17:53
Speaker 2: we're pretty sure we know. But uh, there's a lot
17:56
Speaker 2: of Diego Pavia talk this week. Rick new I said
18:00
Speaker 2: that he'd vote for Diego Pavia over Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza
18:04
Speaker 2: is the heavy favorite, and of course he got to
18:07
Speaker 2: play an extra game, win a big game, and make
18:09
Speaker 2: the big play at the end of a big game,
18:11
Speaker 2: which felt very highsmany and so I would suspect Mendoza
18:16
Speaker 2: is gonna win it. But there is at least a
18:18
Speaker 2: little bit of a murmur out there thinking that maybe
18:21
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia could steal this from him on Saturday night.
18:25
Speaker 2: We shall see. Isn't a grate that Vanderbilt and Indiana
18:29
Speaker 2: have the two best players in the country. Whoever saw
18:32
Speaker 2: that coming? Major League Baseball Winter meetings continue. There was
18:36
Speaker 2: actually some activity yesterday. Kyle Schwarber did sign with the
18:40
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies five years, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
18:44
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz is now a Dodger, leaving the New York
18:47
Speaker 2: Mets for a record twenty three million dollars per year
18:50
Speaker 2: over three seasons. And so the Dodgers get better on
18:54
Speaker 2: the back end, and they could really use it. I
18:56
Speaker 2: mean it's really hard. Yeah, it's hard to watch them,
18:58
Speaker 2: you know, with all the whole and the and how
19:01
Speaker 2: difficult it is in that market to fill those holes. Yeah,
19:05
Speaker 2: you know, so for them to finally get a closer man,
19:08
Speaker 2: finally catch a break really, yeah, they caught.
19:10
Speaker 1: A break out. Yeah, good for the Dodgers.
19:13
Speaker 2: Hora Polonco maybe asking for more money than what the
19:17
Speaker 2: Mariners are comfortable giving him. We'll talk about that a
19:20
Speaker 2: little bit later on in the show. The Major League
19:22
Speaker 2: Baseball Lottery was held yesterday. The Chicago White Sox ended
19:26
Speaker 2: up winning it. It is really a screwy system that
19:29
Speaker 2: they've come up with, and yet I do kind of
19:33
Speaker 2: like the way that they do it.
19:35
Speaker 1: Like you, if you.
19:36
Speaker 2: Stay in the lottery, they punish you for not getting better.
19:42
Speaker 2: Like the Colorado Rockies had the worst record by far,
19:45
Speaker 2: they didn't even they weren't even given a chance to
19:47
Speaker 2: get a top nine pick because the Major League Baseball's
19:51
Speaker 2: new lottery rules said, you've been bad for too long,
19:54
Speaker 2: start getting good. We're not going to keep rewarding you
19:57
Speaker 2: for sucking. And so I appreciate that. Now it seems
20:01
Speaker 2: with all of these new rules, which it were impossible
20:04
Speaker 2: to understand, is they were telling us about it on
20:08
Speaker 2: television last night in the midst of a half hour show.
20:13
Speaker 2: It does seem rife for being able to rig it
20:15
Speaker 2: going forward and into the future. But I do kind
20:19
Speaker 2: of like the attempt. They also like teams that have
20:22
Speaker 2: high pay rolls. You can only get a lottery ball once.
20:28
Speaker 2: You can't get it in back to back year, so
20:29
Speaker 2: the Angels weren't even given a shot at the number
20:32
Speaker 2: one pick this year because it's they were like embarrassing
20:35
Speaker 2: them that you spend all this money and you're this bad. Haha,
20:39
Speaker 2: Well we're not going to let you bail out by
20:41
Speaker 2: getting draft picks. So they've created this scenario in which
20:46
Speaker 2: a team that barely missed the playoffs like the Mariners
20:48
Speaker 2: did the previous year, can get one of the top
20:50
Speaker 2: six picks, maybe even the top overall. And they've also
20:54
Speaker 2: created these other rules to punish teams for being bad
20:57
Speaker 2: too long, and for teams that just spend lot and
21:00
Speaker 2: still can't be good. So it's kind of interesting.
21:03
Speaker 1: I kind of like it.
21:05
Speaker 2: Finally cracking Kings tonight at seven o'clock. Al Konisky's going
21:09
Speaker 2: to join us at nine to thirty.
21:10
Speaker 1: But coming up.
21:11
Speaker 2: Next, man, there are a few people out there cam
21:13
Speaker 2: Cleland that are on a rampage about the Bowl game experience.
21:18
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about it next. Are they dead? Sports
21:21
Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM just so fascinating, reckless
21:24
Speaker 2: at breakfast today at seven forty five, and so much
21:27
Speaker 2: more coming your way. There are a few people out
21:30
Speaker 2: there on a rampage social media wise, media wise, I
21:34
Speaker 2: don't want to name any names. Cam Cleveland, but our
21:37
Speaker 2: guy Cam may be the guy that's most on He's
21:39
Speaker 2: challenging everybody out there to the notion that Bowl games
21:43
Speaker 2: are are done. And so I disagree with Cam. I
21:48
Speaker 2: love Cam, but I do believe that the Bowl games
21:51
Speaker 2: are on their last leg. I think we and I
21:55
Speaker 2: predicted that this was going to come someday. So I'm
21:57
Speaker 2: a little biased toward this conversation. But for all of
22:02
Speaker 2: those that seem to be all upset that Notre Dame
22:04
Speaker 2: has declined, maybe it was out of sour grapes and
22:07
Speaker 2: that's a bit childish. But Iowa States said no, and
22:11
Speaker 2: Kansas State said no, and Baylor has said no. There's
22:15
Speaker 2: just there's just more at stake now. There's just more
22:19
Speaker 2: awareness of what's happening with these Bowl games than there
22:24
Speaker 2: has been in the past, and there just doesn't seem
22:26
Speaker 2: to be interest in it. Coaches are leaving before they
22:29
Speaker 2: ever play in it. Players who have NFL futures are
22:31
Speaker 2: opting out of them. I mean, even the tired conversation
22:36
Speaker 2: about how it means so much to the boys, well, really,
22:40
Speaker 2: I mean, how many guys stayed together for four years
22:44
Speaker 2: of college football in today's world, So we're going to
22:47
Speaker 2: keep bowl games so that somebody who transferred three times
22:53
Speaker 2: in the last five years, chasing nil money can play
22:58
Speaker 2: one more game with the guy he's bunked with for
23:01
Speaker 2: six months. I just don't even buy that. I think
23:04
Speaker 2: even that argument has gone by the wayside. So I
23:08
Speaker 2: get that Cam Cleveland is still holding to it, but
23:10
Speaker 2: I think it's because Cam Cleveland loved that about his
23:13
Speaker 2: own personal experience. I just don't think that's the experience
23:18
Speaker 2: anymore of college athletics, and I'm not gonna stand on
23:21
Speaker 2: ceremony any longer. I think they're on their last leg,
23:24
Speaker 2: their last breath, and I wouldn't be surprised within the
23:27
Speaker 2: last five years that we didn't even have bowl games period.
23:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
23:31
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I fully agree with Cam,
23:34
Speaker 4: but I don't fully agree with you. I think that
23:37
Speaker 4: it's most certainly there's different circumstances and situations for all
23:42
Speaker 4: these different guys, right, I mean, playing and simple. It
23:45
Speaker 4: was hard when Christian McCaffrey's like, I don't want to
23:47
Speaker 4: play in the bowl game because I'm like, what like,
23:49
Speaker 4: because it was different, different and yet it was all
23:51
Speaker 4: it was different, and yet it was it's a smart decision.
23:54
Speaker 4: You blow your knee out in a bowl game and
23:56
Speaker 4: then it affects the rest of your career.
23:59
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith.
24:00
Speaker 4: Yes, and so you I get that. So for that, okay,
24:04
Speaker 4: I understand. If you're in that box, you're going on
24:06
Speaker 4: to the next level and it's a meaningless bowl game.
24:09
Speaker 1: Now. I mean if guys start when they start.
24:12
Speaker 4: Bowing out of playoff games, national championship games because they're
24:17
Speaker 4: worried about the future, well, then to some degree it's like, well,
24:20
Speaker 4: at what point did you feel that they was solidified?
24:23
Speaker 4: Was it game six of your senior season or your
24:25
Speaker 4: junior season? And you're like, man, I'm done for the
24:27
Speaker 4: rest here. I read mel Kuiper, he had me already
24:30
Speaker 4: in the first round. I'm good because that to me
24:33
Speaker 4: is you're getting into something where this selfishness takes over.
24:36
Speaker 2: That's going to be used against them. Yeah, in their
24:38
Speaker 2: football careers. There's no NFL GM that's not going to
24:42
Speaker 2: bring up. You backed out of your team with a
24:44
Speaker 2: national championship to play, we don't want you.
24:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so there's different there's different scenarios for different people.
24:52
Speaker 4: There is some and I think this is where cams
24:54
Speaker 4: come from to some degree. And I think his is
24:56
Speaker 4: there's a little bit more of the ceremony of like,
24:58
Speaker 4: no just playing and simple. These guys, these things have
25:00
Speaker 4: to stick around because how good they are. And I
25:03
Speaker 4: don't know if they're necessarily good. As a matter of fact,
25:06
Speaker 4: a lot of them will certainly are not good. I'm
25:07
Speaker 4: not sure they've ever been good. I think some of
25:09
Speaker 4: them are good. I think there is some. There's some
25:12
Speaker 4: guys that flat out their last game, think about their
25:15
Speaker 4: last game of the regular season, and they got six wins. Right,
25:18
Speaker 4: They're not any good. Their team's not great, but they're
25:20
Speaker 4: not atrocious. They've got the six wins and they know
25:22
Speaker 4: they can get win more and their bowl eligible. And
25:24
Speaker 4: there's some kids that can't wait to play in it
25:27
Speaker 4: because it is going to be their final real football game.
25:31
Speaker 4: So but they're not going to keep it around just
25:33
Speaker 4: for that. They're keeping it around because they have people
25:36
Speaker 4: that will, you know, a pop tart will say hey,
25:39
Speaker 4: we'll sponsor a bowl, and then the teams can get money.
25:43
Speaker 4: And money is important to these teams even more so
25:45
Speaker 4: than well, maybe not more so, but it's more necessary
25:48
Speaker 4: now because they have to give some of that money
25:50
Speaker 4: away to the guys that are actually out there playing.
25:52
Speaker 4: So I don't I think the idea of some of
25:56
Speaker 4: the Bowl like maybe it might be lessened to some degree.
25:59
Speaker 4: I think that there's going to be more teams that
26:01
Speaker 4: are gonna opt out. It's unfortunate because I'd be willing
26:03
Speaker 4: to bet on any team that opts out of it.
26:06
Speaker 4: That is not unanimous when they opt out of it.
26:08
Speaker 4: Just like if there's teams that decide know we're going
26:09
Speaker 4: to play that that's not unanimous that there's some guys
26:12
Speaker 4: that would rather like, I don't know, maybe I'm on
26:14
Speaker 4: the fringe. I might get to the combine and I
26:17
Speaker 4: don't want to get hurt. And yet I we're not
26:19
Speaker 4: that good. I'm not that big of a prospect to
26:21
Speaker 4: just quit on my team.
26:23
Speaker 2: So let's use your Christian McCaffrey example, because once the
26:26
Speaker 2: example is set, than others follow right. It started with
26:29
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, and everybody thought that was into the world
26:32
Speaker 2: until the next year, ten guys did it, and the
26:34
Speaker 2: next year forty guys did it, and it just keeps climbing,
26:38
Speaker 2: and the same thing's going to happen with this. I
26:40
Speaker 2: mean again, Notre Dame's not the only team that has
26:43
Speaker 2: opted out of this process. Four teams have opted out
26:47
Speaker 2: of this process, three of them not because they felt
26:49
Speaker 2: jilted by the College Football Playoff Committee. There's more at play,
26:54
Speaker 2: and I think that maybe there is a way to
26:57
Speaker 2: do a bowl game, which I'll get to in a moment,
26:59
Speaker 2: that could be the new way to do bowl games
27:01
Speaker 2: going forward.
27:02
Speaker 1: But the old way that it has.
27:04
Speaker 2: Been done is dead and I don't think there's any
27:08
Speaker 2: resuscitating it. And part of that reason. Another part of
27:13
Speaker 2: that reason is, you know, we don't have the transfer window,
27:16
Speaker 2: the transfer portal until the first of January. You got
27:20
Speaker 2: teams that are getting ready to play bowl games, that
27:22
Speaker 2: have seniors that have opted out, injured players that aren't available.
27:27
Speaker 2: They got to put a team on the field. They're
27:29
Speaker 2: playing freshmen who no one in the country has seen,
27:32
Speaker 2: and you're going to expose those players who you've kept
27:35
Speaker 2: under wraps to a bidding war, potentially in the next
27:40
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Because your freshman wide receiver who was
27:44
Speaker 2: a three star but you knew there were some great
27:46
Speaker 2: things about him, caught one hundred and seventy two yards
27:49
Speaker 2: worth of you know, yards against Kennesaw State and a
27:53
Speaker 2: pooland weed Eater Bowl, and now you've lost them to
27:55
Speaker 2: a bigger program. I mean there is a lot more
27:58
Speaker 2: that they're having to protect, secretive information that they're having
28:02
Speaker 2: to protect that we never had to deal with before.
28:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
28:06
Speaker 6: I do think that it is definitely the different levels,
28:09
Speaker 6: right because I think looking at those players that it
28:13
Speaker 6: is the ones.
28:13
Speaker 5: That are moving on to a different career. That's why
28:16
Speaker 5: why it is important.
28:17
Speaker 6: And I think those are, you know, the majority of
28:19
Speaker 6: a team, The majority of the team is not going
28:21
Speaker 6: on to the NFL, the majority of your team is
28:23
Speaker 6: done after college. But I can also understand, yeah, the
28:27
Speaker 6: necessity of well, now we're fielding a team. Now all
28:30
Speaker 6: of a sudden, we've got all these other things that
28:33
Speaker 6: we're going to we have to consider in this new
28:34
Speaker 6: world of college football, and maybe ball games don't fit in.
28:37
Speaker 6: But I can definitely understand where Cam is coming from
28:40
Speaker 6: and saying that they are still important.
28:42
Speaker 5: And I think they're important to the majority of the.
28:44
Speaker 6: Team, not just the big names, and that's where I
28:48
Speaker 6: think he's coming from.
28:50
Speaker 2: But but why is it important to play one more game.
28:52
Speaker 1: We don't do that in any other way.
28:54
Speaker 5: I think when you go when you go to a
28:55
Speaker 5: bowl game, you don't.
28:56
Speaker 2: Get done with a baseball season and just say well everything.
28:59
Speaker 4: They have a senior day. I mean in high school,
29:01
Speaker 4: your senior basketball.
29:02
Speaker 2: Day, that's your last day. Why is it that not
29:04
Speaker 2: a last.
29:04
Speaker 4: Well, but if you get the opportunity to play one
29:07
Speaker 4: more after your senior day, like if.
29:08
Speaker 2: You protecting that, I don't know that's why that's important.
29:12
Speaker 2: I mean, that's sweet, it's cute, But we obviously have
29:14
Speaker 2: moved past that. We're now running this stuff like a business.
29:17
Speaker 2: Why do we need to protect that ceremonial? Like I
29:21
Speaker 2: said before, it's not like I mean, once upon a time,
29:23
Speaker 2: it was four guys that are excuse me, fourteen guys
29:27
Speaker 2: that have been together for four or five years, and
29:29
Speaker 2: let's play one more game for them. How many guys
29:32
Speaker 2: together as a group even make it to their senior.
29:35
Speaker 4: Sit thing has nothing to do with playing with your
29:38
Speaker 4: the same guys. It's just playing and simple. If you
29:41
Speaker 4: know that this is your last game possibly and then
29:44
Speaker 4: you win it, and so then you get a possibility
29:47
Speaker 4: at another game, that other game means something. I mean,
29:50
Speaker 4: I Luckily I got to play beyond college. But had
29:53
Speaker 4: I thought my last game in college was my last
29:55
Speaker 4: game and somebody gave me another opportunity to play, I
29:57
Speaker 4: would have wanted to play in it.
29:58
Speaker 1: Now.
29:59
Speaker 4: If you don't for whatever reason, because you know you're
30:02
Speaker 4: going on, I don't fault them for making a smart
30:05
Speaker 4: business choice there.
30:06
Speaker 1: If you don't because.
30:07
Speaker 4: You think the program like we don't want to give
30:10
Speaker 4: away secrets, or with this little sneaky three star guy
30:13
Speaker 4: that we had, I would be more worried about you
30:16
Speaker 4: losing a recruit that you have because you have too
30:20
Speaker 4: many guys that are they can't play or they're gonna
30:23
Speaker 4: move on, and so you're gonna go out there and
30:25
Speaker 4: just lay an a You're gonna look really really bad.
30:27
Speaker 4: And then like this other three star guy that you're
30:30
Speaker 4: trying to bring in is like, I don't know if
30:31
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go play there, because I mean, if that's
30:33
Speaker 4: how who's gone next year and that's the team that
30:36
Speaker 4: I'm going into, that doesn't seem like a place that
30:39
Speaker 4: I want to go.
30:39
Speaker 2: All right, Well, there's more. I know we all have
30:41
Speaker 2: more to say about us. We'll continue the conversation next
30:44
Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All right, Chuck Bile,
30:52
Speaker 2: Buggy Jacobson, Ashley Ryan with you. Just picking up on
30:55
Speaker 2: the conversation, I had said that I think the Bowl
30:58
Speaker 2: games are not gonna record. I think that they are
31:01
Speaker 2: dinosaurs shivering in the snow. I think their days are numbered.
31:05
Speaker 2: They might look differently. There might be a way to
31:07
Speaker 2: preserve them, which hopefully I'll get some time to discuss
31:10
Speaker 2: here in a little bit. But I would just ask again.
31:13
Speaker 2: Bucky answered it. Ashley wanted to didn't get a chance to.
31:16
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't you played baseball. They didn't preserve
31:21
Speaker 2: the right for you to play another game when you're done,
31:23
Speaker 2: even though you wanted to do it. I just I'm
31:26
Speaker 2: not gonna stop the wheels of progress just because we're
31:30
Speaker 2: used to football players getting the chance to play another
31:33
Speaker 2: game together. We don't do it in any other sport
31:36
Speaker 2: or in any other walk of life. The only reason
31:38
Speaker 2: we want to do it for these kids is it's
31:40
Speaker 2: because we grew up with it.
31:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:42
Speaker 6: Well, and I do think here's part of the problem.
31:44
Speaker 6: We've been complaining about Bowl games for a couple of years, right,
31:47
Speaker 6: They've just gone years. Yeah, they've just gotten out of
31:49
Speaker 6: control with the amount of bowl games, and it seems like,
31:52
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think a team that wins seven
31:55
Speaker 6: games should be.
31:56
Speaker 5: In a bowl.
31:57
Speaker 6: I do think they should be reserved for having a
31:59
Speaker 6: better season. So I do think you could limit the
32:02
Speaker 6: amount of bowl games that you have but still give
32:04
Speaker 6: that opportunity because it is an experience, that's what it is.
32:07
Speaker 6: It's not it is one extra game, but you get
32:10
Speaker 6: the extra practices, the extra time with your team, and
32:13
Speaker 6: you get the experience of going to the city where
32:15
Speaker 6: the bowl game is right they go all out, they
32:17
Speaker 6: have big festivities every night, and so it's not just
32:20
Speaker 6: the one game. It's the extra week of like a
32:23
Speaker 6: bonding time with your team. And I again, I don't
32:26
Speaker 6: know that that's necessarily the important thing for those guys
32:29
Speaker 6: that are transferring every year and the big names that
32:32
Speaker 6: are just going for the best opportunity and the most money.
32:34
Speaker 6: It's for the guys that are the heart and soul
32:37
Speaker 6: of the team that haven't left, aren't going somewhere else
32:39
Speaker 6: for more money and are just there.
32:40
Speaker 1: Well.
32:41
Speaker 2: I just heard Brady Quinn talk about this this morning,
32:43
Speaker 2: and granted he's he's been burned ye by the process
32:46
Speaker 2: so he's not happy with college football right now. But
32:49
Speaker 2: he said that his senior year, they went to a
32:51
Speaker 2: bowl game that was beneath what they thought they should
32:54
Speaker 2: have been, and they just treated it like a party.
32:57
Speaker 2: And he said, what is why is that worth preserving?
33:00
Speaker 2: I would ask the same thing, why is it worth
33:01
Speaker 2: preserving giving a bunch of seniors who've had a lot
33:04
Speaker 2: better college experience than I had? Or you, well, you
33:08
Speaker 2: probably had a pretty good one at USC But why
33:12
Speaker 2: wage so hell bent on preserving a party week for
33:16
Speaker 2: these guys just so they can bond together. Go bond
33:19
Speaker 2: on your own.
33:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't.
33:22
Speaker 2: I don't see that that being valuable enough to keep
33:25
Speaker 2: it going. If that's the only reason that we're doing it,
33:28
Speaker 2: then I don't think that's valuable enough. If the reason
33:30
Speaker 2: is because coaches want the extra playing time, then let's
33:33
Speaker 2: create a different type of bowl game. I've talked about
33:35
Speaker 2: this and Reckless at Breakfast in the past. Let's talk
33:37
Speaker 2: about one that seniors can't play in that you do
33:41
Speaker 2: do it after the transfer portal window. Either do it
33:44
Speaker 2: after the transfer portal window, and let's showcase next season's players.
33:50
Speaker 2: And I think that the fans would be more interested
33:52
Speaker 2: in it. I think a freshman that didn't get to
33:54
Speaker 2: play would be excited about that, and it would be
33:57
Speaker 2: a we could replace the spring game, which seems to
34:00
Speaker 2: be an encumbrance to the entire calendar college football calendar
34:05
Speaker 2: and the process. And so we just reserved that in January,
34:09
Speaker 2: and we have bowl games in warm cities, and we
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Speaker 2: do it for the underclassmen who are going to stick
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Speaker 2: around with the program, and we just give people a
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Speaker 2: taste of what's coming next. I think that would be
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Speaker 2: far more interesting than making sure a bunch of seniors
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Speaker 2: who spent forty four years partying get the party one
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Speaker 2: more time together on somebody else's dime.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just don't understand. I don't understand
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Speaker 4: the I guess. I mean, you boycotted bowl games for
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Speaker 4: a long time, right, you just don't like them.
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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly why.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's because of the corruption. It's like you guys
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Speaker 2: are talking about. There were good bowl games. Yes, there
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Speaker 2: were good quality bowl games, but there was never any
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Speaker 2: good reason why we were having them.
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Speaker 1: It was all money.
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Speaker 2: It was all money grip.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it still is and so to me.
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Speaker 2: But it wasn't always it wasn't ever going to the players,
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Speaker 2: and it hardly none of it was going to the players.
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Speaker 2: It was just and very little of it was actually
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Speaker 2: going to programs.
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Speaker 1: Most of it was being.
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Speaker 2: Pocketed by you know, fat cats in pastel suits that
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Speaker 2: wanted to.
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Speaker 1: I watched it happen.
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Speaker 2: John Junker went to prison for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think for what is worth.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the good old days of college football, there
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Speaker 4: still was money being handed. I just know we weren't
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Speaker 4: knowing about it, right, Like some of the players are
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Speaker 4: getting paid there. There's been ugly stuff going on in
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Speaker 4: college football forever. To me, this is just if there's
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Speaker 4: there's money that these teams get for going and playing
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Speaker 4: in some silly bowl. There is some players on the
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Speaker 4: team that want to play, and if there's others that don't,
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Speaker 4: they don't have to if the entire team decides not
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Speaker 4: to for whatever reason. Okay, if you come up with
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Speaker 4: that on your own, you don't want to go participate
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Speaker 4: in it. You don't want the paycheck, however big or
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Speaker 4: small it is, fine. I just there's I just don't
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Speaker 4: understand the I just want them all gone, except for
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Speaker 4: because they're still gonna always call whatever these playoff games
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Speaker 4: are they're gonna call.
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Speaker 1: Them a bowl game because they're gonna be.
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Speaker 4: That's fine, they're going to be those are the only ones,
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Speaker 4: let sponsored by something. But I just don't understand that.
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Speaker 4: I don't want bowl games for you know, whoever's on
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Speaker 4: Nebraska's team this year that isn't going to play after this,
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Speaker 4: Like I don't want them to be able to play
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Speaker 4: in a game. I just don't understand the reason for
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Speaker 4: not wanting them to have an opportunity to play another game.
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