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- 0:00Speaker 1: So this article, like I said, is from law on
- 0:03crime dot com. The author is Aaron Keller and the
- 0:07headline secret Jeffrey Epstein documents have been released by court order.
- 0:12Read them all here. So obviously I'll post this link
- 0:16in the description box, And if you have not checked
- 0:19out the documents for yourself yet, make sure that you
- 0:23hit this article and you do a quick scan for
- 0:26yourself or a deep dive or whatever it is you
- 0:29might be. Either way, you will have access to these
- 0:32documents so you can read them for yourself, and that
- 0:36link will be posted with all of the other links
- 0:39inside of the description box. A heart excuse me. A
- 0:45hard fought court battle by alleged groomer, an enabler, co
- 0:49conspirator fellow scumbag child abuser Gilean Maxwell has failed and
- 0:55a cash of forty seven previously secret court records pertaining
- 0:59to Max Well's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged
- 1:03survivors has been released. And remember what Judge Presca said,
- 1:08these are going to be coming out in a rolling manner.
- 1:11These are not the only documents that are coming out,
- 1:14so they have other batches that they're going to be
- 1:17releasing as well, and so this cash here is the
- 1:24opening salvo, right, the first of many. Remember the first
- 1:29dump had over two thousand pages, and I expect when
- 1:32all is said and done, that we get to a
- 1:35number that exceeds that, or at the very least equals it.
- 1:40So remember these are not all of the documents that
- 1:43we're going to see at some point, but this is
- 1:46just the opening salvo. The combined documents contain six hundred
- 1:51and thirty eight pages in total by our count. Long
- 1:55Crime downloaded all of the documents from PACER, the electronic
- 1:58repository of Federal court records, when they were released on
- 2:02Thursday night, and again that link will be in this
- 2:05article so that you can go and check these out yourself. Right.
- 2:08There's some interesting stuff in there, especially for those of
- 2:11you who have not been following this case for a
- 2:14long time, or for those of you who might be
- 2:16confused about some of the statements made or comments and
- 2:20depositions that people refer to. This is more of a
- 2:24resource for you to fall back on and find the
- 2:27answers right from the sources themselves. The survivors in this case,
- 2:33Virginia et cetera, as opposed to getting it at second
- 2:36or third hand right, And it's always what I suggest
- 2:40to do, always, if it's possible, go directly to the source,
- 2:45because then you don't have to worry about things being missing,
- 2:49people omitting things, or anything like that. You're getting it
- 2:52raw and unadult traded from the person who lived it.
- 2:56So that's why I think that these court documents are
- 2:59a big deal. And it also provides weight behind the
- 3:05allegations that are made because these aren't just made. These
- 3:09allegations and these depositions aren't done in a vacuum, right.
- 3:13This is under oath with the threat of perjury hanging
- 3:16over your head, as we see Gilan Maxwell suffering from
- 3:21perjuring herself in these very documents. So it's a big
- 3:25deal and it adds enormous weight to the allegations. In
- 3:30my opinion. Electronic searches of the documents came up blank
- 3:35for the words Trump and Clinton. However, the names of
- 3:38both presidents do appear in the documents. The names are
- 3:42just not easy to find. The Mara a Lago Club
- 3:45is mentioned dozens of times, as are Great Britain's Prince
- 3:48Andrew aka the Joe Exotic of the windsor family and
- 3:53former Harvard Law School professor Alan I kept my underpants
- 3:58on dirty dirshe Witz, that filthy rat, son of a bitch.
- 4:03He is the worst of the worst, in my opinion.
- 4:06This is a man that was integral in getting the
- 4:10plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein. Meanwhile, he was under allegations
- 4:15himself of abusing Virginia, the same person that the plea
- 4:19deal is going to basically screw over. It's just none
- 4:25of it is right. And the fact that Alan Dershowitz
- 4:29has not really been put on blast by the legacy
- 4:32media is disgusting to me. And I guess you could
- 4:37probably tell by the way I comment on this man
- 4:40or excuse of a man, whenever he's brought up in
- 4:43an article, would let you know just exactly how I
- 4:47feel about him and how I feel about the role
- 4:49he played within this whole entire thing. In one deposition,
- 4:54Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts said, Epstein himself is the one
- 4:58who took the widely publicized photo of herself with Prince
- 5:02Andrew aka the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. Epstein
- 5:06used Robert's own Koda camera, she said, and we obviously
- 5:11we've heard that before for those of us who have
- 5:13been following it. And again, remember, like I said, we
- 5:18don't know what's in these documents. We don't know if
- 5:19there's going to be any bombshells. But I was I'm
- 5:22operating under the suspicion that there is not going to
- 5:26be anything in these six hundred and thirty eight pages
- 5:29that is absolutely earth shattering. I think within those depositions, however,
- 5:34I think that's where you're going to find a lot
- 5:36of meat and potatoes. Here, Roberts mentions Clinton and other
- 5:41famous people on Epstein's plane. The snippet attached here is
- 5:44from page one five of the combined document JS. I
- 5:50want to deal with things separately in order to respect
- 5:53some of the reservations that you have. So I'm going
- 5:56to ask you who the people were that you remember
- 5:59flying with Jeff's plane when you were personally present, without
- 6:02regard to whether there was any sexual activity that occurred
- 6:06on the plane or not. So I'm not asking you
- 6:10to implicate any of these famous people in an improper conduct,
- 6:14but just tell me what the names of the people
- 6:16are that you remember that you consider to be famous people. Okay,
- 6:21this is Virginia answering. Okay, there was Naomi Campbell, Heidi Klum,
- 6:27there was Bill Clinton, there was Al Gore. There was
- 6:30a whole bunch of models. I wouldn't really honestly be
- 6:33able to give their names. There was Matt Groening, the
- 6:36producer of the Simpsons cartoon, Jack Jack Cousteau's granddaughter, a
- 6:41lot of interior designers, architects, politicians. I'm just trying to
- 6:45think of as many names as possible for you off
- 6:48the top of my head. That's as good as I
- 6:50can get for now. The immediate follow up, the excuse me.
- 6:56The immediate follow up made it clear that sexual impropriety
- 7:00improprieties were not being alleged. The questioner was merely after
- 7:04the names of people who were on Epstein's planes. And again,
- 7:09these are enablers, right, These aren't people who were implicated
- 7:15in abusing Virginia. But these are people that were around
- 7:20when these trafficked girls were being abused. So while they
- 7:25might not have been involved in the actual abusing of
- 7:29these girls, the fact that they were around when it
- 7:32was happening is beyond the limits of gross and his
- 7:37borderline making them complicit. JS just a few other follow
- 7:43up things I want to ask you, And again, if
- 7:46any of these questions or questions that you're uncomfortable in
- 7:49responding to, then don't hesitate to tell me that. Do
- 7:52you have any recollection of Jeffrey Epstein specifically telling you
- 7:55that Bill Clinton owes me favors Virginia? Yes, I did.
- 8:00It was a laugh though, he would laugh it off.
- 8:02You know, I remember asking Jeffrey, what's Bill Clinton doing here?
- 8:07What's Bill Clinton doing here? Kind of thing, and he
- 8:09laughed it off and said, well, he owes me a favor.
- 8:13He never told me what favors they were. I never knew.
- 8:16I didn't know if he was serious or if it
- 8:19was just a joke. And again, this all goes into
- 8:23the whole premise of this being a blackmail operation and
- 8:27Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell being run as assets by the
- 8:31intelligence community. He told me a long time ago that
- 8:38everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets.
- 8:43The lawyer, when you say you asked him, why is
- 8:46Bill Clinton here? Where was here Virginia on the island?
- 8:50The lawyer when you were present with Jeffrey and Bill
- 8:53Clinton on the island, who else was there? Virginia, Gilaine
- 8:57Emmy Taylor, and there were two young girls that I
- 9:00could not identify. I never really knew them well anyway,
- 9:03it was just two girls from New York, lawyer, And
- 9:06where all of you staying at Jeffrey's house on the island,
- 9:09including Bill Clinton, Virginia. That's correct. He had about four
- 9:13or five different villas on his island, separate from the
- 9:16main house, and we all stayed in the villas, Lawyer,
- 9:24Were sexual orgies or regular occurrence on the island at
- 9:27Jeffrey's house, Virginia? Yes, Look, this is damning for Bill Clinton,
- 9:32even if he wasn't partaking in any of this sexual
- 9:36misconduct that we know of, the fact that he was
- 9:39on this island while these orgies were happening. Don't you
- 9:42think this should be a bigger story in the media.
- 9:45Don't you think that the media should have been all
- 9:47over this for years, but instead they have chosen to
- 9:52ignore it. Now ask yourselves, folks, why elsewhere? Roberts described
- 9:59the inside of Epstein's bedroom on his private island. The
- 10:02answer and the following question surrounded Maxwell's alleged sacks sex
- 10:06axe there okay, large stony, He had a king sized
- 10:12bed with posts on it. There was a large door,
- 10:14I think it's called door where you put your clothes.
- 10:17There was an adjacent bathroom with a more stony look,
- 10:20giant tub. Question what color was the paint on the wall?
- 10:24Answer it was stone. Question what color was the bed spread?
- 10:29Answer white? Question what color were the sheets? Answer? White?
- 10:35Question and you saw Gulaye Maxwell have sexual contact with
- 10:38an unknown, unnamed female in that room? Correct answer absolutely.
- 10:43Now remember the answers are given by Virginia here and
- 10:46the questions are being asked by the lawyer. Question, all right,
- 10:50when were you there that you saw this happen? Answer?
- 10:54This happened on so many occasions. The island was a
- 10:57place where orgies were a constant thing that took And
- 11:00again it's impossible to know how many. And like I said,
- 11:04it wasn't just Jeffrey's room, it was outside. And you
- 11:08know it was question, what sexual contact did you observe
- 11:12Gilaine Maxwell have with a female by the pool at
- 11:15an orgy on the US virgin Islands. Answer, well, there
- 11:19was quite a few girls and it was excuse me
- 11:21if I'm saying this in an inexplicit way, but I
- 11:24don't know how else to say it. So if you
- 11:26don't understand, please let me know. Girl on girl action.
- 11:29So there was a lot of what's the word for it, licking, licking,
- 11:33vaginas and breasts. This is Gilaine Maxwell on the island
- 11:38while Bill Clinton's present, and this is not a huge,
- 11:40gigantic megas story. I understand that a lot of people
- 11:46still want to protect Bill Clinton for some reason or another,
- 11:50but this is damning information, folks. It's been out there
- 11:53for those of us who have been following this story,
- 11:56We've known this stuff, but now that it's coming out
- 11:58in the media, well, I hope that the legacy media
- 12:02jumps on board and he gets the same treatment that
- 12:06Prince Andrew is getting over in England. Maxwell pressed the
- 12:11courts to keep the records hidden from the public, but
- 12:14Loretta A. Presca, a federal judge sitting in the Southern
- 12:17District of New York, ultimately ordered that redacted versions of
- 12:21the documents be made public. Maxwell's efforts to stall the
- 12:25release of the documents, including a blizzard of court papers
- 12:28on Wednesday, July twenty ninth and continuing into Thursday, July thirtieth.
- 12:34The requests culminated at the trial court level with a
- 12:37request for a last ditch effort telephone conference with PRESCA.
- 12:41Hundreds of pages were simultaneously filed with the Second Circuit
- 12:45Court of Appeals. It was all in vain, and that's
- 12:50what I was telling. I told you folks that that
- 12:51was going to be the case today. I knew that
- 12:53this wasn't going to have any legs, and the fact
- 12:56that they filed all of this stuff so late in
- 12:59the game was going to work against them. Judge Presco
- 13:02was not playing games with them. She wanted this stuff
- 13:05to be released, and here we are. Maxwell's attorneys attempted
- 13:10to argue that redactions to the documents by attorneys for
- 13:13Roberts were not properly made. They also attempted to proffer
- 13:17their own set of redacted documents to cure the alleged problems.
- 13:22Prior to receiving Miss Maxwell's latest last minute request, the
- 13:25court conducted an in camera review of plaintiff Virginia roberts
- 13:30proposed redactions to the materials. Presco wrote, having heard nothing
- 13:35from Miss Maxwell's late this morning, the court found Miss
- 13:38roberts proposed redactions, which included minimal redactions of personally ID
- 13:44identifiable information the names of non parties and descriptions of
- 13:48non party conduct that would allow readers to discern the
- 13:51identity of a given non party to be appropriate. In
- 13:55other words, Maxwell's high paid, high profile Harvard lawyers, Well,
- 14:02they got beat to the punch. They were late with
- 14:05their filings. PRESCA was not having it, and she slapped
- 14:09them right in their chops. In other words, Robert's redactions
- 14:14were sufficient, PRESCA determined. It appears from court dockets that
- 14:18Maxwell's Maxwell's attorneys were busy filing appellate court documents when
- 14:23PRESCA was hearing nothing from them at the district court level.
- 14:26The judge suggested Maxwell's attention should have been focused on
- 14:29the redactions, not the appeal. And it's funny to me
- 14:33to see this, right, PRESCA given them a lesson in
- 14:36how to do business. You would think that these high
- 14:39profile Harvard trained lawyers would have their shit together, but
- 14:44I guess not. While Miss Maxwell gripes that Miss Roberts
- 14:48submitted her proposed redactions to the court late on July
- 14:52twenty ninth, Miss Roberts, at a minimum, gave the court
- 14:55time to conduct a review of her proposed redactions while
- 14:59preserving the original schedule for unseiling. By contrast, Miss Maxwell
- 15:04at two PM informed the court that she is finalizing
- 15:08her proposed redactions and that she will be ready to
- 15:11provide them to the court at some undefined point today.
- 15:15And this is the sort of environment they're used to
- 15:18conducting themselves in, right, where they hold the keys, where
- 15:21they make the rules, where they decide when and where
- 15:25court documents are going to be released. Well, that shit
- 15:29ended today in glorious fashion in Judge Presca's courtroom. On
- 15:35top of this, and despite the Court's instruction that the
- 15:38parties work together to ensure that the materials were properly
- 15:42redacted by the appointed time, Miss Maxwell apparently has not
- 15:46provided to Miss Roberts her proposed redactions either, for reasons
- 15:50that should be very plain. This is entirely unworkable. This
- 15:55is what we call a fatality move, right Remember in
- 15:59Mortal Combat the video game, when you would do a
- 16:02finishing move and it would say fatality. This is basically
- 16:06what happened to Gilan Maxwell's absurd last minute objections. With
- 16:14one additional slam in a footnote, the documents were unsealed
- 16:17a few hours later, at about ten pm Eastern time
- 16:20on Thursday. Just yesterday, the Court admonished Miss Maxwell for
- 16:25filing an eleventh hour request for reconsideration on grounds that
- 16:30could have been raised well before the Court ordered the
- 16:33relevant documents unsealed. The Court is troubled, but not surprised
- 16:38that Miss Maxwell has yet again sought to muddy the
- 16:41waters as the clock click ticks closer to midnight. And
- 16:45it's great to hear the judge say that right. I
- 16:48stated this earlier because it's obvious to anyone paying attention
- 16:52that's what they were doing all the time, muddying the
- 16:55waters and attempting to gain the upper hand to make
- 17:00sure that the narrative moves in their direction. The Appeals
- 17:04Court did not rule on Maxwell's request for intervention in
- 17:07the matter. The court's docket indicates here is what was
- 17:11released Thursday. More documents are slated to be released as
- 17:15late as Monday. So again, folks, we're not done yet.
- 17:20There's gonna be more documents. They're coming in a rolling fashion.
- 17:24Presco was very clear about that when she made the
- 17:26original ruling, and you can expect to see more as
- 17:31the days go by and we get deeper and deeper
- 17:35into this case, because there is much more to be revealed,
- 17:42and there's going to be flight logs, etc. Etc. So
- 17:48all I can say is make sure that you have
- 17:50a sufficient supply of popcorn on hand because the proverbial
- 17:56shit is going to hit the fan. If you'd like
- 18:01to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci
- 18:03at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u Cci
- 18:08at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
- 18:11Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u Cci. The links that
- 18:17pertain to this article can be found in the description box,
- 18:20and make sure you click on the link. That way
- 18:23you can look at all of these documents for yourself.
- 18:26All right, So we're gonna get started off today with
- 18:29an article from the Miami Herald that just came out,
- 18:33and it's kind of a nice little introduction to what's
- 18:36in the deposition. They have a couple of the juice
- 18:38of your points, et cetera, et cetera. And considering this
- 18:43all started with the Miami Herald, I figured it would
- 18:46be the proper and right thing to do to use
- 18:50their article to talk about this deposition as a tip
- 18:55of the cap. So there's a lot going on, folks.
- 18:59There's going to be a lot going on today. I'm
- 19:02probably going to put out multiple episodes. We already have
- 19:06the Morning update that I put out earlier that has
- 19:09to do with Palm Beach and how the Palm Beach
- 19:13Post is attempting to pry the grand jury testimony loose
- 19:19from the first case around. And well, they had a
- 19:23bit of a breakthrough with Dave Ahrenberg, who is the
- 19:28state attorney general, saying that he is okay with it now.
- 19:32So there is definitely movement going on there. Not too
- 19:35sure what's going on behind the scenes. Obviously, I don't
- 19:37have a link to Florida what's going on down there.
- 19:41I don't have any sources, nothing like that. But it
- 19:44certainly looks like things are moving in the proper direction.
- 19:47And I think with this deposition being released, the one
- 19:50we're talking about today, the Maxwell deposition, I think that's
- 19:54going to play favorably into getting this grand jury testimony
- 19:58released as well, because it will fill in so many blanks.
- 20:01Right Imagine having this grand jury testimony come out and
- 20:07we could see every last little thing that the prosecution
- 20:11and Epstein's defense did to get him off. No wonder
- 20:16they want to keep that stuff private. No wonder they
- 20:18want to keep it hidden. And are you shocked at
- 20:21a judge with the last name of Marx doesn't want
- 20:25any transparency. I am not. So There's a lot going
- 20:30on right and today is a bellweather day for this case.
- 20:34This has been a long time coming. These documents have
- 20:38been hidden for way too long, and in the interest
- 20:43of justice and in the interest of transparency, it is
- 20:47about time that they were dumped. So again, this is
- 20:52this episode's gonna get us kicked off for our day.
- 20:54I'm expecting a marathon kind of day here in the studio.
- 20:59I don't have any plans on doing anything else today
- 21:02besides reading the deposition, sitting around in the studio and
- 21:06seeing what we can figure out and what we can find.
- 21:09Because all the time we have spent on this case together,
- 21:12now what are we seven hundred and forty eight forty
- 21:15nine articles deep. You guys are like my family at
- 21:19this point. I spend more time with you than I
- 21:20spend with my friends. So we're just gonna keep it rocking.
- 21:24And you know what, in for a penny, in for
- 21:27a pound, Let's see what this Miami Herald article is
- 21:33offering us to get the day started. All right, So,
- 21:39Gilainne Maxwell testimony four hundred and sixty five pages of
- 21:43Fury denials glimpses into Jeffrey Epstein's life. The authors of
- 21:49this article are Kevin G. Hall and Ben Wheer. No,
- 21:55Gilaine Maxwell doesn't remember where she met Virginia Roberts, the
- 21:59woman who says she was recruited from a job at
- 22:01mar A Lago as a teenager to become a Jeffrey
- 22:04Epstein massuse and eventually a survivor. Well, that's a chakha.
- 22:11Giylan Maxwell sure does have selective memory loss, considering everybody
- 22:17knows you met her at mar A Lago. It's on
- 22:20the record, I mean, on page fourteen and fifteen of
- 22:24the deposition. It's pretty clear that she perjured herself. Gailen
- 22:29Maxwell perjured herself. And I posted both of those little
- 22:33little clips that were screenshotted on my Twitter account and
- 22:37also on the Facebook page. It's obvious to me that
- 22:40she perjured herself with those comments and right there, right there,
- 22:44as prosecutors. If it was me as a prosecutor, I
- 22:47would have charged her with perjury as well. Yes, she
- 22:52recalls women hanging around Epstein's pool topless, but it was
- 22:56not the common and they didn't appear underage. Again, everybody,
- 23:00he's an expert. Huh on how old somebody is. Everybody
- 23:03has the link and they know who's what and how
- 23:07old you are just by looking at you. I'm sorry
- 23:10that does not work, especially this day and age. You
- 23:14don't know how old they are because it was the
- 23:17plan to make sure that nobody told their real age. Remember,
- 23:22Oh yeah, I remember. No, despite claims to the contrary,
- 23:28she didn't participate in orgies with Epstein and young girls,
- 23:32including a specific allegation that involved the participation of a
- 23:37thirteen year old. Again, folks, let's just be clear. Okay,
- 23:41this isn't just us talking shit. This isn't us trying
- 23:45to paint her as the bipedal serpent she is. The
- 23:49prosecutors themselves said she perjured herself in this deposition. That
- 23:54means the prosecutors also believe she's a liar. So you're
- 24:00not on a fishing expedition. We have never been on
- 24:02a fishing expedition on this podcast. This has never been
- 24:05a conspiracy theory. This has always been a cover up,
- 24:08and we have been on it from the jump, all
- 24:12of us. The back and forth comes from a four
- 24:16hundred and sixty five page transcript released early Thursday of
- 24:20a deposition from twenty sixteen given by Maxwell, the former partner,
- 24:26co conspirator, general scumbag, all around child abuser, and bipedal
- 24:32serpent alleged recruiter for Jeffrey Epstein. It shows how deeply
- 24:37intertwined he was in what authorities labeled the sex trafficking
- 24:41of miners, and it was again that is the central
- 24:46part of this, right, the sex trafficking of miners. Of course,
- 24:49that's the most heinous possible crime you could ever commit.
- 24:54In my book, that is the worst thing you could
- 24:56possibly do is hurt children, defenseless, little ass naive children,
- 25:01and I have no remorse for it. I think I've
- 25:04been very clear about how I feel. If you get
- 25:07caught doing this and you're convicted and a jury of
- 25:10your peers sentences you, well, chemical castration should be your fate.
- 25:17I'm sorry. You have lost all your ability to be
- 25:23part of normal society. Once you start hurting children. There's
- 25:26no rehabilitation from that. Maxwell gave the deposition, and a
- 25:33defamation lawsuit settled in twenty and seventeen brought against her
- 25:37by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts. Much of the document remained
- 25:42hidden from public view until the Miami Herald first sued
- 25:46in April twenty and eighteen for dozens of documents in
- 25:50the case to be unsealed. And again, we have to
- 25:53give the Miami Herald their credit. I don't honestly, let's
- 25:56be very clear about this. I don't care about their motivations,
- 25:59right that their motivations were political to start. I care
- 26:03about what they unearthed. And the Miami Herald did good
- 26:06work here and they they should be lauded for that.
- 26:12An earlier batch of documents was released last summer, while
- 26:16Robert supported release of the transcripts in July, Maxwell's lawyers
- 26:19had put up an put up obstacle after obstacle to
- 26:22block its release. Yeah, look, how many technicalities did they
- 26:26throw up? How many times did they drag their feet
- 26:30or bring up a loophole? They did not want this
- 26:33released because they knew what was going to happen, And
- 26:37that is exactly what's occurring right now. All of you
- 26:40out there digging in, got your cup of coffee, maybe
- 26:44a breakfast sandwich in some places it's lunch, And hell,
- 26:47I have listeners on every continent, so everybody, different time
- 26:52for everybody, but I'm sure it's the same routine in
- 26:54every house at all four corners of the globe right
- 26:57now for people who are interested laying back someplace quiet
- 27:02and reading through the deposition that we have been waiting
- 27:06for for years and now it's finally here, and it
- 27:11is time to put an exclamation point on this investigation.
- 27:16It's time to bring in these co conspirators, and it
- 27:20is certainly time that the predators become the prey. That
- 27:27ended Thursday, after days of wrangling over redactions, when the
- 27:31transcript of the deposition became public, it showed the degree
- 27:35to which Maxwell was obstructive in her sworn testimony about
- 27:39her relationship with Epstein, and the detailed questioning by Robert's
- 27:43lawyers outlined her intimate knowledge of his empire. Again, and
- 27:48for all of you loudmouthed jack offs out there who
- 27:51called Virginia a liar, and you know you want to
- 27:53sit around on Twitter and bang on your keyboard from
- 27:57your mom's basement, well put this in your pipe and
- 28:02smoke it, you bunch of absolute ingraded morons. When asked
- 28:10if she had ever seen a girl under the age
- 28:12of eighteen in Epstein's home who wasn't the child of
- 28:15a friend. Maxwell denied any knowledge. Yeah, of course she did.
- 28:19What is she She's not going look this deposition. Maxwell
- 28:23thought that she was never going to have to be
- 28:25called to account for any of this. They never thought
- 28:28Epstein was going to get arrested again. Nobody ever expects
- 28:32the Spanish inquisition. And then when he got nailed, that
- 28:37is when the sweat started again. I'm sure the Joe
- 28:40Exotic of the Windsor family is sweating bullets right now.
- 28:46So it is an absolute lie. Okay, I'll just straight
- 28:52up call it what. It is, an absolute lie when
- 28:55Glen Maxwell denies any knowledge. She was the one trolling
- 28:58the malls, She was the controlling these schools, she was
- 29:01the one trolling Central Park. She is the one who
- 29:04went up to the girl in France. So please spare
- 29:07me your lies. Maxwell. They could have charged you with
- 29:10one hundred counts of perjury probably from this deposition from
- 29:13what I've read so far, you bipedal serpent, enjoy your
- 29:17boloney sandwich again. I can't testify to that because I
- 29:23have no idea what you were talking about. Maxwell, said,
- 29:27survey says lies. She is an absolute liar, and in
- 29:32this deposition it brings it really to light. You can
- 29:36really tell that she was arrogant and caught up in
- 29:40her own hubris and thought that she would never, ever,
- 29:43ever have to answer for these allegations, for these lies.
- 29:50As Virginia's lawyers continue to press Maxwell on whether she
- 29:54had ever observed underage girls in Epstein's home, Maxwell continued
- 29:58to deny any knowledge, in spite of being presented with
- 30:02police reports documenting Epstein's alleged abuse of girls. She was
- 30:09adamant trying to protect Jeffrey and herself and the operation.
- 30:14Remember what, you don't think she was conditioned for this.
- 30:17You don't think that her handlers had ever ran through
- 30:22this kind of routine with her. In case you ever
- 30:23get busted, this is what might happen. This is what
- 30:26you say, this is what you do. And then you
- 30:28add on to that these high powered lawyers. Oh yeah,
- 30:32I am sure Maxwell was well coached for this deposition.
- 30:37I had an office with a door, so the door
- 30:39would be shut and I would be working. I'm not
- 30:42responsible for what Jeffrey does, and I don't always pay
- 30:45attention to what happens in the house. She said, well,
- 30:48yes you are. You're part of the criminal enterprise. You're
- 30:50a co conspirator. You're the underboss, right co boss A
- 30:55and B. So yeah, you're responsible. Okay, that is why
- 31:02Rico needs to be dropped on them, because it's for
- 31:06everybody involved. Then everybody in the criminal conspiracy gets themselves
- 31:11a nice Rico belt, and now we don't have to
- 31:14worry about technicalities and loopholes because all of these scumbags
- 31:18are caught up under the Rico umbrella. And then the
- 31:22next step is long prison sentences. The transcript also calls
- 31:30into question Maxwell's assertion that she had little to do
- 31:34with Epstein after his release from a Florida jail in
- 31:37two thousand and nine, and is in conflict with her
- 31:40later assertion that Epstein paid her legal bills at the
- 31:43time of the civil case. She was all over the
- 31:46place in this and now that we have hindsight to
- 31:48guide us four years later, five years basically later. Now, well,
- 31:53this is going to be picked apart with laser like precision,
- 31:57and the people that are going to be doing that
- 31:59are all of you out there, folks. This is a
- 32:02team effort, all of us digging into this looking for
- 32:05those little kernels of truth, those little nuggets of gold.
- 32:12That's important because in the US Virgin Islands, Maxwell is
- 32:15suing the Epstein estate, valued at more than six hundred
- 32:18million dollars. She has argued the estate must cover her
- 32:21legal bills because she was an employee who had a
- 32:24verbal agreement with Epstein and that he kept his word
- 32:27about paying her bills until his shocking death in August
- 32:31twenty nineteen in a Manhattan jail. So you had nothing
- 32:35to do with them, huh, bipedal serpent. You had nothing
- 32:38to do with Epstein for all those years, but he
- 32:40just still paid your bills because he was a nice guy.
- 32:42Jeffrey Epstein was the kind of guy where he just
- 32:45wanted to pay everyone's bills. He wanted to give people money,
- 32:48He wanted to, you know, help everybody out because just
- 32:52from the bottom of his heart. That's the kind of
- 32:55guy he was. Yeah. Right, he was paying your legal
- 32:58bills because you were part of the criminal conspiracy. He's
- 33:03paying your legal bills because your handlers demanded it. In
- 33:09the deposition, she insisted he was not paying her legal bills.
- 33:13She also appeared to contradict what is now common knowledge
- 33:17that Epstein did work for her father, Robert Maxwell, a
- 33:20high profile publishing baron who died under mysterious circumstances in
- 33:25nineteen ninety one. Yeah, that was unearthed recently, right, Remember
- 33:30what I just said, hindsight. We have the benefit of
- 33:33hindsight when we're discussing this. Now we're talking about five
- 33:36years ago. A lot of things changed, a lot of
- 33:39information has come out, and Gielen Maxwell has proven to
- 33:42be a liar. After his death at sea, apparently falling
- 33:49off his yacht called the Lady Glaine, he was discovered
- 33:53he had Pilford his company's pension fund. Sounds like a
- 33:56hell of a guy, huh. Raised the perfect daughter. Apple
- 33:59did not fall far from the tree. She and Epstein
- 34:03met the same year that she began working for Epstein,
- 34:06in nineteen ninety two. According to the deposition, that's a lie.
- 34:10Another lie. Perjured herself once again. When asked if she
- 34:14was ever Epstein's girlfriend, Maxwell replied that it was a
- 34:18tricky question. Yeah, no, shit, because you were never his girlfriend.
- 34:21You were his business associate. Okay, you guys might have
- 34:24played the part like the family on the Americans oh yeah,
- 34:27this is my girlfriend. No, that wasn't the case. Okay,
- 34:32enough with the bullshit. Let's cut to the chase, folks.
- 34:34Let's get cut all the fat away and get to
- 34:37the meat of the situation. Gilanne Maxwell was never Jeffrey's girlfriend.
- 34:42They'd never in love, none of that shit, all right.
- 34:46She was a coal hearted, calculated asset who was running
- 34:50an operation with her partner. That's what it was. There
- 34:55were times when I would have liked to think of
- 34:56myself as his girlfriend, she said. Yeah, well I'd like
- 34:59to think of my self as a bazillionaire. But here
- 35:01we are. Maxwell was arrested this past July second at
- 35:06one hundred and fifty six acre estate in New Hampshire
- 35:09and charged with four counts of sexual trafficking of a
- 35:12minor and two counts of perjury related to statements she
- 35:15made in the April twenty and sixteen deposition. Oh just
- 35:19two counts, huh, pretty sure. There's more than two counts
- 35:22of perjury in there. But like I said when it happened,
- 35:25those are hole charges. We're waiting for a superseded indictment
- 35:30to come down, and when that occurs, expect a whole
- 35:33heap of vicious federal charges. The sexual trafficking charges covered
- 35:42her alleged recruiting and grooming of three girls for Jeffrey
- 35:45Epstein to sexually abuse between nineteen ninety four and nineteen
- 35:49ninety seven. Maxwell is alleged to have partaken in the
- 35:52abuse with one of the girls. An extraordinarily lenient deal
- 35:56with federal prosecutors in two thousand and eight, spotlighted in
- 36:00The Herald's Perversion of Justice series in November twenty eighteen,
- 36:04allowed Epstein to escape similar charges. And we talked a
- 36:09lot about that this morning on the Morning Drop in
- 36:12the Palm Beach case, and how he was able to
- 36:14skirt those charges, and how Krisher and the State of
- 36:19Florida is that they are involved in the liability of that.
- 36:25In my opinion, and I think that there should be
- 36:28hefty penalties for those who helped prosecute that case. Maxwell's
- 36:34presence as an adult woman helped put the survivors at ease,
- 36:38as Maxwell and Epstein intended, said Audrey Strauss, the acting
- 36:42US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and
- 36:45announcing the charges against Maxwell in July. The newly released
- 36:49transcript depicts Maxwell as an obstructionist, making lawyers repeat a
- 36:53question four or five times on questions such as whether
- 36:57calling a victim a liar can be cycled logically harmful,
- 37:01And that's what they do. She's trying to obfuscate. She's
- 37:04trying to, you know, find a technicality, a loophole, a
- 37:06way to get out of answering the question, and her
- 37:09lawyers were well adept at helping her do so. But
- 37:14guess what we're on to you, Gilaine. We have all
- 37:17the circumstantial evidence and now we have this deposition to
- 37:20go back and cross reference to. So, in the words
- 37:25of plenty of people throughout history, you are ft frustrated
- 37:32by Maxwell's non answers. Lawyers then turned to the allegation
- 37:36by several women who said they were brought in as
- 37:39miners to give massages to Epstein at his Palm Beach home.
- 37:43Many said there were sex toys present and that Epstein
- 37:46unexpectedly used them as he forced himself on them. And
- 37:51this is not one girl, this is not two girls.
- 37:53This is not Virginia, this is not Maria. This are
- 37:57these are the girls, the Palm Beach High School girl
- 38:00that were brought there. The Hailey Robson's of the world.
- 38:04And it is obscene that only one of those girls
- 38:07was brought before the grand jury. Absolutely obscene and unacceptable.
- 38:14Maxwell responded by asking for a definition of a sex toy.
- 38:18Oh how really, you don't know what a sex toy is,
- 38:20Miss Oxford. No, I need you to define a sex toy.
- 38:25I don't have enough knowledge of sex toys, she was responded.
- 38:28She responded, Oh yeah, okay, you don't have enough experience
- 38:32with them, enough knowledge. How come they were all over
- 38:34the house. How come you had a whole basket full
- 38:37of them that old boy had to clean up, either
- 38:39had to clean them up after you were done. You're
- 38:42not fooling anybody, Gilaine. You bipedal serpent. And guess what.
- 38:47All of your chickens have come home to roost, All
- 38:50of those girls that you helped abuse, all of those
- 38:53girls you brought into Jeffrey Epstein's orbit. This is their time.
- 38:57Your time has passed. What was coming? A first batch
- 39:03of documents in the Roberts Epstein lawsuit was concealed on
- 39:07August ninth, twenty nineteen, a month after Epstein was arrested
- 39:11on new federal charges of his sex crimes. And the
- 39:14day before his death by alleged suicide, and those two
- 39:18thousand documents were a bell weather in this case. Without
- 39:21those two thousand documents being dumped, without those documents being
- 39:25put out into the public sphere, I don't think we'd
- 39:27ever have this deposition. So it's a huge deal. It's
- 39:31incredibly awesome that the precedent was set, and I really
- 39:34hope that Palm Beach follows suit. The unsealed documents in
- 39:40twenty nineteen detailed Maxwell's alleged role in finding girls to
- 39:45satisfy Epstein's insatiable sexual appetite. It also alleged that Roberts,
- 39:51who was about seventeen when Maxwell allegedly recruited her to
- 39:54have sex with Epstein, had been directed to have relations
- 39:57with a host of Maxwell and epstein prominent friends. And
- 40:02we've you know, obviously talked about this a lot from
- 40:05the first dump. All of the really prominent, highly placed
- 40:10people that Virginia says that she was trafficked to, and
- 40:15all of the disgusting rat bastards who were named have
- 40:19been discussed at length here on this podcast. These included
- 40:26former Main Senator George Mitchell, former New Mexico Governor Bill
- 40:31bitch Ass, Richardson, French modeling scout Jean Luke Brunell, American
- 40:36hotel magnate Tom Pritzker, and New York hedge fund manager
- 40:41Glenn Dubin. So all of these guys that were named
- 40:45by Virginia, why aren't all of them called in under oath?
- 40:49They're accused of very heinous crimes here, folks. At the
- 40:52very least, they should all be brought in and put
- 40:54under oath and have a nice talk with the FBI. Right,
- 40:58why would they not, at the very least be brought
- 41:01in to have a talk. If they're innocent, fine, prove
- 41:04your innocence. But if they're not innocent, if they did
- 41:09do this, then how broken is our system? How corrupt
- 41:15is our justice department? Because these are some of the
- 41:18most powerful men in the world, folks, and they are
- 41:21not even being put with their feet to the fire
- 41:24to answer any of these questions. It's time for that
- 41:27to change your money, your power, your status. That doesn't
- 41:32give you the go ahead to abuse other people, That
- 41:34doesn't give you the go ahead to treat other people
- 41:37as less than And it's time these people learn that
- 41:43Roberts had previously said that she had also been directed
- 41:46to have sex with England's Prince Andrew aka the Joe
- 41:50Exotic of the Windsor family, which appears to be the
- 41:53subject in a section of the transcript in which there
- 41:55is a discussion about alleged events in the bathtub of
- 41:59Maxwell's home in London. And we all know that Maxwell,
- 42:06Andrew Epstein and Virginia were at her Belgravia home. We
- 42:11saw the picture that wasn't faked. What did Virginia run
- 42:14over to photo shop and whip that one up? Give
- 42:16me a break, all right, it's been The authenticity of
- 42:20it has been confirmed by several sources, including the FBI.
- 42:23So spare me with the fake pictures or the fat
- 42:26fingers or I wasn't there, mister Joe Exotica of the
- 42:29Windsor family. The Epstein accuser also said she was forced
- 42:34to have sex with prominent American attorney Alan I kept
- 42:38my underpants on Dershowitz. All the men have denied Robert's claims,
- 42:43and Roberts and Dershowitz have sued each other for defamation.
- 42:48And we've all seen how unhinged Dershowitz has been, so
- 42:51I'm sure this is gonna launch him over the edge.
- 42:53Here he's gonna be running around Martha's vineyard naked looking
- 42:56for a volleyball game. All disheveled after this one, folks.
- 43:01After Epstein was found dead in his jail cell at
- 43:04the Metropolitan Correctional Center, Maxwell largely disappeared from public view.
- 43:09She was photographed out of Los Angeles in an out
- 43:11burger restaurant, an unusual locale for a British socialite, weeks
- 43:16after Epstein's death. Well, I don't know about that, but
- 43:19you know, In and Out has some quality burgers, new
- 43:22folks that have never had it. It's good shit. So
- 43:25I don't know why they would say a socialite might
- 43:26not go there. But the picture that was taken there
- 43:29certainly was doctor. There was some tomfoolery going on with it,
- 43:34for sure, So I don't even know honestly if she
- 43:38was even there right That picture is very fraudulent in
- 43:42my opinion, so I think it was just another disinformation
- 43:46attempt by her and her mouthpiece LG. The New Hampshire
- 43:52house where Maxwell was arrested was purchased through a shell
- 43:55company in December twenty nineteen, and Maxwell kept her name
- 43:59off the purchasing documents. According to someone familiar with the
- 44:03details of the sale, she toured the house under a
- 44:05pseudonym yeah, with her quote unquote husband Scott Borgerson, both
- 44:11having their hearty taty accents. It all added weight to
- 44:16an argument by lawyers for The Herald that Maxwell's April
- 44:20twenty sixteen deposition was a judicial document in a settled
- 44:25case and that there was public interest in releasing it.
- 44:28And there's no doubt in my mind that is exactly
- 44:31what the Second Circuit Court of Appeals thought. These are
- 44:34judicial documents, they need to be public record, and that
- 44:38is the end of it. And finally, somebody legally speaking
- 44:44smashed Glayn Maxwell's legal team over the head with a
- 44:47cudgel and told them to shut their fat yaps. US
- 44:55District Judge Loretta Presco ruled in July twenty twenty in
- 44:59favor of the head Harold, ordering that the deposition and
- 45:02several related documents in the Roberts Maxwell lawsuit be made public.
- 45:08Maxwell appealed that, and on Monday, the Court of Appeals
- 45:11for the Second Circuit ruled against her. That set in
- 45:14motion another round of court filings where Maxwell's attorneys sought
- 45:18further delay and argued for blacking out more names and descriptions.
- 45:23So they really they went from let's not get her
- 45:25released to try and have as many redactions as we
- 45:28possibly can. They will do anything, folks, to keep the
- 45:31truth from reaching you. And the scuzzbags in the legacy
- 45:36media they're part of that too. So remember that when
- 45:40you're running over to read MSNBC to get your rage porn,
- 45:43or you're out in the New York Times trying to
- 45:45think about how bad the other side is, well, just
- 45:48remember those very same authors, those very sane people and
- 45:53politicians who live on that ivory tower on both sides
- 45:56of the aisle were involved and not doing a thing
- 46:00thing about this for decades. Two unidentified persons who provided
- 46:09testimony in the civil suit this week were given another
- 46:12fourteen days to convince Presca to redact their names and
- 46:16some information. The deposition also factors into Maxwell's ongoing criminal case,
- 46:22scheduled for a July trial. Her lawyers have argued that
- 46:25the deposition had been released illegally to federal prosecutors, a
- 46:29charged the prosecutor's dispute the deposition release, her lawyer said,
- 46:34would jeopardize chances of a fair trial in the criminal case,
- 46:38oh boo hoo. And I'm glad to see the court
- 46:42didn't agree with that, because it's a BS reason. What
- 46:46you're doing is speculating that the juror pools already tanked
- 46:50before you've even talked to anybody. So how in the
- 46:53hell do you think that's gonna go over. Nobody's believing that.
- 46:56Nobody's buying that, and the court certainly wasn't buying it.
- 47:01So now, Maxwell, it is time for you to reap
- 47:06what you sew and it's time for the rest of
- 47:09us to continue on the hunt, all right, everybody, So
- 47:15I will be back more to fill in some more blanks.
- 47:18We'll talk about some more stuff later on, and obviously
- 47:21we'll reach more articles as they're coming out today. I'm
- 47:23gonna stick around, like I said, I'm gonna read through
- 47:26this deposition, try and get as far as I can
- 47:28before more episodes later on tonight. But there we are.
- 47:32There's a quick update for where we stand, and I'll
- 47:35tell you what, folks, it is. It's going to be
- 47:39a wild ride from here on out. If you'd like
- 47:43to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci
- 47:45at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u c
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- 48:00of the links that go at this episode can be
- 48:02found in the description box. All right, folks, I don't