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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of two thousand and five, a young woman
- 0:02Speaker 1: walked down a sidewalk in New York City. There were
- 0:05Speaker 1: Christmas decorations on all the buildings and Christmas lights. I mean,
- 0:08Speaker 1: it was very festive. But as she walked along, she
- 0:11Speaker 1: glanced over at a newspaper stand and she saw something
- 0:15Speaker 1: on the front page of that paper that literally made
- 0:17Speaker 1: her stop in her tracks. And not because it was festive,
- 0:20Speaker 1: it was awful. Right there on the front page was
- 0:24Speaker 1: a picture of the one thing in her life that
- 0:27Speaker 1: she'd hoped she would never ever see again. But before
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- 1:03Speaker 1: Story early on the evening of Sunday, November twenty seventh,
- 1:26Speaker 1: two thousand and five, a twenty one year old woman
- 1:29Speaker 1: named Catherine Woods leaned towards the mirror to put on
- 1:32Speaker 1: her eyeliner inside the bathroom of her small apartment in
- 1:35Speaker 1: New York City. Catherine's phone was sitting on the bathroom
- 1:38Speaker 1: counter and she heard it bus, but she didn't even
- 1:40Speaker 1: look to see who was calling. She didn't have time
- 1:42Speaker 1: to talk to anyone because she had to finish getting
- 1:44Speaker 1: ready for her seven o'clock shift at work. So Catherine
- 1:48Speaker 1: had moved to New York City from Ohio three years
- 1:50Speaker 1: earlier to pursue her dream of becoming a dancer on Broadway.
- 1:53Speaker 2: But everything here was so.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Expensive that in addition to chasing her dream, she also
- 1:58Speaker 1: had to work three different just to make ends meet. Now,
- 2:02Speaker 1: two of those jobs were pretty standard. She worked as
- 2:04Speaker 1: a waitress and also taught children's dance classes. But tonight
- 2:08Speaker 1: she was getting ready to go to her third job,
- 2:10Speaker 1: and this job was not really standard at all. In fact,
- 2:13Speaker 1: to her, she was sort of embarrassed about it, and
- 2:16Speaker 1: because of that, she was keeping it a secret from almost.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Everybody in her life.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Her third job was working as a topless dancer at
- 2:23Speaker 1: a strip club near Times Square called Flash Dancers. Catherine
- 2:27Speaker 1: honestly hated the work, but it paid really well, and
- 2:30Speaker 1: if she wanted to have her shot at Broadway, she
- 2:32Speaker 1: needed to pay for voice lessons and dance classes. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 1: she did live in Manhattan, which was the most expensive
- 2:39Speaker 1: part of the already very expensive city, and she knew
- 2:42Speaker 1: that she could save some money if she just moved
- 2:44Speaker 1: to a neighborhood where rent was cheaper. But when she
- 2:47Speaker 1: had first moved to New York, she had lived in
- 2:49Speaker 1: a less expensive neighborhood for that reason, and unfortunately, her
- 2:54Speaker 1: landlord had sexually assaulted her. The experience had been so
- 2:57Speaker 1: traumatic that Catherine had, at the time and sitter just
- 3:00Speaker 1: leaving New York and going back to Ohio and just
- 3:02Speaker 1: being done with this place. But in the end, she
- 3:06Speaker 1: had decided to stay in New York and continue chasing
- 3:08Speaker 1: her dream.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Now she did move within New York.
- 3:11Speaker 1: She'd gotten this apartment in Manhattan because it was a
- 3:14Speaker 1: lot safer, and she also got a roommate to help
- 3:16Speaker 1: with the cost. His name was David Hahn. He was
- 3:19Speaker 1: twenty three, and he was one of Catherine's friends from
- 3:21Speaker 1: back home. In Ohio, but at this very moment, David
- 3:25Speaker 1: was not inside the apartment. He'd gone outside to get
- 3:27Speaker 1: his car so we could drive Catherine to work. Catherine
- 3:30Speaker 1: finished her makeup and left the bathroom, and as she
- 3:33Speaker 1: walked through the living room, she stepped over a black
- 3:35Speaker 1: dog that was sleeping on the floor. The dog was
- 3:37Speaker 1: not Catherine's, and it actually was not David's either. David
- 3:41Speaker 1: was a part time dog sitter, so this dog was
- 3:43Speaker 1: just staying with them while its owners were out of town.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Just like Catherine, David also had a bunch of part
- 3:48Speaker 1: time jobs to help make ends meet. When he wasn't
- 3:50Speaker 1: dog sitting, he worked as a doorman at a hotel
- 3:53Speaker 1: just up the street from their apartment. Now, Catherine and
- 3:56Speaker 1: David had actually been romantic at one point. They had
- 3:58Speaker 1: dated for a little while, but these days they were
- 4:01Speaker 1: just roommates living together to split the bills, although secretly
- 4:05Speaker 1: Catherine did sometimes wonder, if, you know, maybe they should
- 4:07Speaker 1: give it another shot to try being a couple again.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Thanksgiving had been a few days ago, and instead of
- 4:12Speaker 1: going home to Ohio like she usually did, Catherine had
- 4:15Speaker 1: stayed in New York and celebrated with David and it
- 4:18Speaker 1: had been a really nice time.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Plus, David knew about.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Catherine's third job of working at Flash Dancers, and he
- 4:23Speaker 1: didn't judge her for it, and Catherine felt like a
- 4:26Speaker 1: lot of people did, so she liked that about him.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But the biggest hurdle that Catherine could see to potentially
- 4:31Speaker 1: rekindling their relationship was the fact that David disliked basically
- 4:36Speaker 1: every man she met, whether she.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Was dating them or not. He just did not like them.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Now, some of these guys, she could understand why David,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know, didn't like them, Like there was this guy Joe,
- 4:45Speaker 1: that she had dated briefly, who really she'd only met
- 4:48Speaker 1: because he was a patron of her strip club. But
- 4:51Speaker 1: then there were people like Paul, who was a personal
- 4:53Speaker 1: trainer at Catherine's gym, who she'd only seen off and on,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and who was nothing but nice to David. And even
- 4:58Speaker 1: though Paul and Catherine were not dating now and mostly
- 5:01Speaker 1: just spoke on the phone periodically, David still insisted that
- 5:04Speaker 1: Paul was a creep.
- 5:05Speaker 2: He just did not like the guy.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But for now, Catherine figured, you know what, I'm not
- 5:10Speaker 1: going to figure out my entire romantic life. I just
- 5:12Speaker 1: need to finish getting ready and go downstairs so she
- 5:15Speaker 1: wouldn't keep David waiting. So Catherine went into her bedroom
- 5:18Speaker 1: and began getting dressed, and that's when she heard that
- 5:21Speaker 1: dog start barking at something in the living room, and
- 5:24Speaker 1: so curious, Catherine walked in that direction to see what
- 5:28Speaker 1: was going on. A little while later, Catherine's roommate, David,
- 5:35Speaker 1: walked quickly along the sidewalk to get his car, which
- 5:38Speaker 1: was parked aways up the street. He was out of
- 5:41Speaker 1: breath by the time he reached it. He knew he
- 5:43Speaker 1: had to hurry, so he jumped in and he drove
- 5:45Speaker 1: back to the apartment building and he called Catherine as
- 5:47Speaker 1: he pulled up out front. When she didn't answer, he
- 5:50Speaker 1: threw on his hazards and he climbed back out to
- 5:52Speaker 1: go into the building to go get her. And he
- 5:54Speaker 1: had just made it up the flight of stairs that
- 5:56Speaker 1: led to his second floor apartment, and he was going
- 5:58Speaker 1: down the hallway when he saw something that made him
- 6:01Speaker 1: come to an abrupt stop. It was that black dog
- 6:03Speaker 1: that he was dog sitting. Somehow, it had gotten out
- 6:06Speaker 1: of the apartment and was just standing there in the
- 6:09Speaker 1: shared hallway outside.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Of his apartment door.
- 6:12Speaker 1: David blinked and then realized that his neighbor, a man
- 6:14Speaker 1: he rarely interacted with named Brad Stewart, was standing right
- 6:18Speaker 1: behind the dog, and Brad was holding a leash that
- 6:21Speaker 1: was clearly clipped onto the dog's collar. For a second,
- 6:24Speaker 1: Brad looked surprised, and David was just completely confused about
- 6:28Speaker 1: why this guy had the dog that he was dog
- 6:29Speaker 1: sitting on a leash.
- 6:31Speaker 2: But then Brad told David that he had found.
- 6:33Speaker 1: The dog wandering around, recognized it as David's, and brought
- 6:37Speaker 1: it back to his apartment. Brad said he had just
- 6:39Speaker 1: knocked on David's apartment door, but so far nobody had answered,
- 6:42Speaker 1: so at this point David understood, you know why Brad
- 6:45Speaker 1: has the dog, but he didn't know why the dog
- 6:48Speaker 1: was out of the apartment in the first place, but
- 6:50Speaker 1: he kept that to himself and just thanked Brad took
- 6:52Speaker 1: the leash and then stepped over to the door of
- 6:54Speaker 1: his apartment number two D. The apartment door was shut,
- 6:58Speaker 1: but when he turned the handle, he found that it
- 7:00Speaker 1: was unlocked. David couldn't remember if he had left it
- 7:02Speaker 1: unlocked or not, so he just opened it and he
- 7:05Speaker 1: called out Catherine's name but there was no answer, which
- 7:08Speaker 1: was weird, so he stepped inside. Now he didn't see Catherine,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but he did see the door to her bedroom was
- 7:14Speaker 1: slightly cracked open, so he walked over to it and
- 7:16Speaker 1: he called out to her again, and then when she
- 7:19Speaker 1: didn't call back, he tried pushing her door open, but
- 7:21Speaker 1: the door didn't really open. It instead swung maybe a
- 7:25Speaker 1: few inches and then stopped, and David felt resistance on
- 7:28Speaker 1: the other side, like something maybe on the ground was
- 7:31Speaker 1: holding the door from.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Opening all the way.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And so, now with all these strange things happening, David
- 7:35Speaker 1: starting to feel pretty worried, and so the surge of
- 7:38Speaker 1: adrenaline came over him and he just shoved the door
- 7:40Speaker 1: open and he stuck his head in and he looked inside,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and when he saw what was in there, he immediately
- 7:46Speaker 1: pulled back, turned around, ran into the hallway, and he
- 7:50Speaker 1: called the police. A half an hour later, around seven
- 7:56Speaker 1: thirty PM, an NYPD detective named Stephen Getz walked up
- 8:00Speaker 1: a flight of stairs at an apartment building in Manhattan.
- 8:03Speaker 1: This part of the city was known to be extremely safe.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Homicides never really happened here, but if the nine to
- 8:09Speaker 1: one one caller had been.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Telling the truth.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Gets knew that a potential grizzly murder scene was in
- 8:16Speaker 1: fact waiting for him in apartment two D. When he
- 8:19Speaker 1: reached the second floor landing, he saw there were already
- 8:21Speaker 1: a few other NYPD officers on the scene, and one
- 8:24Speaker 1: of them was speaking to this young, skinny guy standing
- 8:27Speaker 1: in the hallway who looked really upset, and he was
- 8:29Speaker 1: holding a leash that was connected to a black dog.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Another officer walked over to Getz and filled him in.
- 8:35Speaker 1: He said the man that was being spoken to was
- 8:36Speaker 1: the victim's roommate, David Hawn, and he was the one
- 8:39Speaker 1: who had found.
- 8:40Speaker 2: The body and called nine to one one.
- 8:42Speaker 1: The victim, Catherine Woods, was inside the apartment in the
- 8:45Speaker 1: back bedroom. Gets nodded and then walked down the hallway,
- 8:49Speaker 1: passed David and.
- 8:49Speaker 2: The dog toward the apartment door.
- 8:52Speaker 1: His plan was to look at the scene himself before
- 8:55Speaker 1: he began questioning anyone. Gets put on some disposable rubber
- 8:58Speaker 1: gloves and checked out the doorframe to the actual apartment,
- 9:02Speaker 1: and then he also looked at the door itself, but
- 9:04Speaker 1: he didn't see any damage that could signify forced entry,
- 9:07Speaker 1: so he stepped into the apartment, and he saw that
- 9:10Speaker 1: the small living room was a little bit messy, but
- 9:12Speaker 1: it wasn't like it had been ransacked or something, you know.
- 9:15Speaker 1: The futon was pulled out, and there were some.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Men's clothes strewn around.
- 9:18Speaker 1: But it sort of looked like a typical place that
- 9:20Speaker 1: people lived. And so Gets walked through the living room,
- 9:23Speaker 1: being careful not to disturb anything, and he went towards
- 9:26Speaker 1: what he assumed was the bedroom where the body was.
- 9:29Speaker 1: The door was open just wide enough that Gets was
- 9:31Speaker 1: able to get through, and when he stepped through and
- 9:34Speaker 1: was inside the room, he saw blood everywhere. It was
- 9:38Speaker 1: all over the walls and the furniture, and the room
- 9:41Speaker 1: itself looked like it had been completely torn apart. One
- 9:44Speaker 1: of the dresser drawers was open, and lots of women's
- 9:47Speaker 1: clothing was scattered all over the place, and the mattress
- 9:50Speaker 1: had been completely taken off the bedframe and was now
- 9:52Speaker 1: lying on the floor. And that's actually what was blocking
- 9:55Speaker 1: the door from opening all the way. And then in
- 9:57Speaker 1: the middle of the room, in a pool of blood,
- 10:00Speaker 1: the body of a young woman. Gets new from the
- 10:03Speaker 1: nine to one to one call that her name was
- 10:05Speaker 1: Catherine Woods. He walked over and squatted down next to
- 10:08Speaker 1: her for a closer look. She was wearing a T
- 10:10Speaker 1: shirt and underwear, and the T shirt had a very
- 10:13Speaker 1: obvious shoeprint on it, like whoever had killed Catherine had
- 10:17Speaker 1: stepped on her. And there were at least a dozen
- 10:19Speaker 1: stab wounds all.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Over her body.
- 10:21Speaker 1: There were also what appeared to be defensive wounds on
- 10:24Speaker 1: her hands and arms, which Gets new meant she must
- 10:27Speaker 1: have fought back against her attacker. But the worst injuries
- 10:30Speaker 1: she sustained were definitely to her neck. Whoever had killed
- 10:33Speaker 1: her had slit her throat so deeply that they had
- 10:36Speaker 1: almost decapitated her, and so to Gets right away, it
- 10:40Speaker 1: seemed like whoever killed Catherine had been in an absolute rage.
- 10:44Speaker 1: At that point, Gets heard footsteps coming from behind him,
- 10:48Speaker 1: and he stood up and he turned around to see
- 10:50Speaker 1: that the NYPD forensics team had arrived. Now, the block
- 10:53Speaker 1: door was making maneuvering in and out of this bedroom
- 10:55Speaker 1: pretty difficult, so one of the first things the forensics
- 10:58Speaker 1: team did was to pick up the mattress and carefully
- 11:01Speaker 1: lean it against the wall so the bedroom door could
- 11:03Speaker 1: now swing open all the way. Then Detective Gets just
- 11:06Speaker 1: stepped back and let the forensics team get to work.
- 11:09Speaker 1: He watched as they pulled that shoeprint off the T
- 11:11Speaker 1: shirt Kathroom was wearing, and then also there was a
- 11:14Speaker 1: second identical shoeprint that was on her bed sheets that
- 11:16Speaker 1: they also grabbed to Gets. Both of these prints did
- 11:19Speaker 1: appear to be from the exact same shoe, and to
- 11:22Speaker 1: the naked eye, these prints appeared, at least to Gads
- 11:25Speaker 1: to belong to very likely an average sized man. Detective
- 11:29Speaker 1: Gets was immediately curious about something, so he stepped out
- 11:32Speaker 1: of the bedroom into the living room, and he quickly
- 11:34Speaker 1: found a couple pairs of men's shoes lying on the floor,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and although the tread of these shoes did not match
- 11:40Speaker 1: the prints he had just seen in the bedroom, they
- 11:42Speaker 1: did appear to be the exact same size. An hour later,
- 11:56Speaker 1: at about eight thirty pm on November twenty seventh, two
- 11:58Speaker 1: thousand and five, Detective Gets sat down at a table
- 12:01Speaker 1: inside of an interview room at the NYPD's nineteenth Precinct,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and once he did, he handed a bottle of water
- 12:07Speaker 1: across the table to David Hahn, the roommate of the
- 12:10Speaker 1: murder victim and Detective Gets current number one suspect. There
- 12:15Speaker 1: had been no sign of forced entry at the apartment
- 12:17Speaker 1: that David and Catherine shared, which meant that Catherine's killer
- 12:21Speaker 1: either had access to the apartment or was let inside
- 12:24Speaker 1: by somebody who did. And the murder had been committed
- 12:27Speaker 1: with a knife in a really savage way that struck
- 12:30Speaker 1: Gets as being a personally motivated attack. Even though Catherine's
- 12:34Speaker 1: bedroom had been trashed, nothing seemed to have been stolen,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and because Catherine had been found partially undressed, there was
- 12:41Speaker 1: potentially a sexual motive at play as well. So Gets's
- 12:44Speaker 1: working theory here was that this murder was committed by
- 12:47Speaker 1: a man who knew the victim well and had easy
- 12:49Speaker 1: access to her living space, and David fit that profile
- 12:53Speaker 1: to a t. Plus he apparently wore the same size
- 12:56Speaker 1: shoe as the killer. Although as detective gets settled into
- 13:00Speaker 1: his chair and brought out his notepad, he did a
- 13:03Speaker 1: quick scan of David's forearms in his hands, and he
- 13:06Speaker 1: saw that David had no visible cuts, scrapes, or bruises.
- 13:10Speaker 1: The detective thought that Catherine's killer likely would have some
- 13:13Speaker 1: injuries there because she had obviously been fighting for her life,
- 13:16Speaker 1: she would have left a mark on them, but Getz
- 13:18Speaker 1: didn't say anything about this to David. Instead, he just
- 13:21Speaker 1: leaned forward and he asked David to walk him through
- 13:24Speaker 1: what had happened that day. David's hands were shaking a bit,
- 13:26Speaker 1: but he took a deep breath to calm himself, and
- 13:29Speaker 1: he said that he had been at the apartment with
- 13:31Speaker 1: Catherine that night until about six forty pm. That was
- 13:35Speaker 1: when he had left to go get his car so
- 13:36Speaker 1: he could come back and drive Katherine to her seven
- 13:39Speaker 1: o'clock shift at Flash Dancers. But he said retrieving his
- 13:43Speaker 1: car had taken longer than he expected because on the
- 13:46Speaker 1: way he had run into some of his coworkers from
- 13:48Speaker 1: his dorman job, and he had stopped to chat with him.
- 13:51Speaker 1: He said, after he had done that and he had
- 13:53Speaker 1: gotten his car and he went back to the apartment,
- 13:55Speaker 1: he had expected Catherine to be waiting outside by the curb,
- 13:59Speaker 1: but when he got there, there was no sign of her,
- 14:02Speaker 1: and she didn't answer when he called her, so David
- 14:04Speaker 1: said he'd ultimately gone inside and ran upstairs to the apartment,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and in the hallway he had found his neighbor Brad,
- 14:10Speaker 1: who was oddly holding the leash of the black dog
- 14:13Speaker 1: that David was supposed to be looking after and then
- 14:15Speaker 1: David said he went into his apartment and that's when
- 14:18Speaker 1: he found Catherine's body. David said he had called nine
- 14:20Speaker 1: to one one right away. It was right around seven pm.
- 14:23Speaker 1: And at this get stopped writing on the notepad and
- 14:26Speaker 1: just looked up at David.
- 14:28Speaker 2: He couldn't believe what he was hearing.
- 14:30Speaker 1: David was claiming that he'd only been out of the
- 14:32Speaker 1: apartment for twenty minutes, and that in that narrow window
- 14:35Speaker 1: of time, Catherine had been brutally murdered and the killer
- 14:38Speaker 1: had also escaped. It honestly sounded like one of the
- 14:41Speaker 1: worst alibis Gets had ever heard, but he didn't want
- 14:45Speaker 1: David to know just how close he was to getting
- 14:47Speaker 1: arrested for murder because he didn't want David to get
- 14:50Speaker 1: scared and stop talking, So Getz kept his tone very
- 14:53Speaker 1: sympathetic as he asked how long David had known Catherine for.
- 14:57Speaker 1: David said they had met back in Ohio a few
- 14:59Speaker 1: years ago while Catherine was visiting her hometown. He'd begun dating,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and he had ultimately moved out to New York to
- 15:04Speaker 1: live with her, but it wasn't long before Catherine broke up.
- 15:08Speaker 2: With him and then asked him to move out.
- 15:10Speaker 1: But David said he had not been able to afford
- 15:12Speaker 1: his own place, so he had started sleeping in his car,
- 15:16Speaker 1: and Catherine had felt bad about that, so she had
- 15:18Speaker 1: ultimately let him move back in on the condition that
- 15:21Speaker 1: he slept on the futon out in the living room.
- 15:24Speaker 1: By now, Detective Gets His pen was flying across the
- 15:27Speaker 1: page because David was not just Catherine's roommate, he was
- 15:30Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend, an ex boyfriend who was the last
- 15:34Speaker 1: person to see Catherine alive and.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Discovered her body.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Gets was more confident than ever that he was sitting
- 15:40Speaker 1: across from Catherine's killer. He told David that everything he
- 15:43Speaker 1: was saying was incredibly helpful, but right now he needed
- 15:46Speaker 1: to go check on something. David agreed to wait, and
- 15:49Speaker 1: Get stood up to leave, but he stopped at the
- 15:51Speaker 1: door and he asked David for one last thing before
- 15:53Speaker 1: he left. He asked what his shoe size was, and
- 15:57Speaker 1: without missing a beat, David answered that he wore a
- 15:59Speaker 1: tenant out half. Gets jotted this down and then he left.
- 16:03Speaker 1: What he hadn't told David was the reason he was
- 16:05Speaker 1: stepping out of the room was to go get some
- 16:07Speaker 1: information from the NYPD's forensics team and the uniformed officers
- 16:11Speaker 1: who were currently questioning David's neighbors, and once Gets had
- 16:15Speaker 1: that information, he was going to use it to try
- 16:17Speaker 1: to catch David and a lie. About nineteen hours later,
- 16:25Speaker 1: so about three pm the next day, Getz was sitting
- 16:28Speaker 1: at his desk feeling completely exhausted, but was pounding yet
- 16:32Speaker 1: another cup of coffee. He'd been up all night interrogating David,
- 16:36Speaker 1: who was still literally sitting right down the hall in
- 16:39Speaker 1: the interrogation room, and also Gets had been going back
- 16:42Speaker 1: and forth with the forensics team and other officers and
- 16:44Speaker 1: detectives who were out in the neighborhood, and he still
- 16:47Speaker 1: had loads more to do before he could finally go
- 16:50Speaker 1: to sleep. Right now, Gets was going over a new
- 16:52Speaker 1: batch of reports from the uniformed officers who had gone
- 16:56Speaker 1: door to door in Catherine and David's apartment building, asking
- 16:59Speaker 1: the neighbors if they seen or heard anything unusual, and
- 17:02Speaker 1: just like Gets had hoped, the information they were getting
- 17:05Speaker 1: did contradict pieces of David's story. David claimed that he
- 17:08Speaker 1: had left the apartment at about six forty pm and
- 17:11Speaker 1: said that at that time Catherine was fine, but two
- 17:15Speaker 1: neighbors said they heard screams coming from the apartment before
- 17:19Speaker 1: six forty pm.
- 17:21Speaker 2: The man in the.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Unit directly above David and Catherine said he had heard
- 17:24Speaker 1: three screams at six twenty eight pm, and the people
- 17:27Speaker 1: in the unit next door to David and Catherine said
- 17:30Speaker 1: they'd heard screaming, barking, and the sound of furniture moving
- 17:33Speaker 1: around even earlier, between five forty five and six pm. Now,
- 17:37Speaker 1: none of these neighbors had done anything about these noises,
- 17:40Speaker 1: because the noises had stopped pretty quickly. And then there
- 17:43Speaker 1: was Brad Stewart, the neighbor who had said he had
- 17:45Speaker 1: found the black dog. Brad told police that when he
- 17:48Speaker 1: ran into David in the hallway, it was some time
- 17:50Speaker 1: between six and six thirty, but David had said that
- 17:53Speaker 1: he went back up to the apartment and found Catherine's
- 17:55Speaker 1: body at about seven pm, a full half hour later. Now,
- 17:59Speaker 1: gets new witness were often bad with time, and in
- 18:02Speaker 1: a dense New York City apartment building, there were lots
- 18:04Speaker 1: of noises coming from lots of units. But still it
- 18:07Speaker 1: looked to him like David's alibi had serious problems, and
- 18:11Speaker 1: so the detective sat back and had some more coffee,
- 18:14Speaker 1: and then his phone rang. He picked it up and
- 18:16Speaker 1: it was the forensics team with an update about those
- 18:19Speaker 1: shoeprints that were on Catherine's shirt and the bed sheets,
- 18:22Speaker 1: and the prints were indeed left behind by a roughly
- 18:26Speaker 1: average sized man. They were Amen's size ten and a
- 18:29Speaker 1: half and this was the exact size Gets new David wore.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Gets thanked them, hung up the phone, and then rushed
- 18:37Speaker 1: back to the interrogation room to have yet another chat
- 18:40Speaker 1: with David Han. This time, though Gets did not offer
- 18:44Speaker 1: David water, He just sat down and he confronted him
- 18:46Speaker 1: with all these new facts. He told David that the
- 18:49Speaker 1: killer shoe prints were exactly his shoe size, that his
- 18:52Speaker 1: neighbors had heard screams before David had supposedly left the building,
- 18:56Speaker 1: and that Brad said he'd seen David in the hallway
- 18:58Speaker 1: at least a half an hour ear earlier than David
- 19:00Speaker 1: had claimed he was there. Gets leaned in and told
- 19:03Speaker 1: David that there were also security cameras in the apartment
- 19:06Speaker 1: building and his officers were already in the process of
- 19:09Speaker 1: getting access to that footage. So if David had anything
- 19:12Speaker 1: to say, you better say it now. Gets watched as
- 19:15Speaker 1: David's expression went from exhausted to clearly afraid. It seemed
- 19:20Speaker 1: like this might be the first time that David realized
- 19:22Speaker 1: the police truly did not believe his story, and after
- 19:25Speaker 1: a second of just stunned silence, David insisted that he
- 19:29Speaker 1: had not killed Catherine, and he begged Gets to believe him,
- 19:33Speaker 1: But when Gets just glared back at him completely unmoved,
- 19:37Speaker 1: David launched into a whole news story, one he had
- 19:40Speaker 1: not mentioned at all over the last twenty hours of interrogation.
- 19:45Speaker 1: David said Catherine knew this guy named Paul Cortes. She
- 19:49Speaker 1: had dated him, but David had always thought he was
- 19:51Speaker 1: kind of a creep, and David said Catherine had told
- 19:54Speaker 1: him that Paul was obsessed with her. So David said,
- 19:58Speaker 1: the police really ought to go and beat investigate Paul,
- 20:01Speaker 1: not him. To Gets, this seemed like a desperate, last
- 20:04Speaker 1: minute attempt to cast suspicion on somebody else, but he
- 20:08Speaker 1: knew he did have to follow every lead, so he
- 20:10Speaker 1: did write down Paul's name and told David they'd look
- 20:13Speaker 1: into it. When Getz finally left the station for the evening,
- 20:16Speaker 1: David was still in the interrogation room and reporters from
- 20:20Speaker 1: all the daily papers were beginning to assemble right outside.
- 20:32Speaker 1: The following morning, the story of Catherine's murder and pictures
- 20:36Speaker 1: of her smiling face were all.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Over the news.
- 20:39Speaker 1: The front page of the New York Daily News carried
- 20:41Speaker 1: a headline that made Getz grimace. It read secret life
- 20:45Speaker 1: of slain stripper. Inside the article reported that Catherine's family
- 20:49Speaker 1: hadn't known she was working as a topless dancer until
- 20:53Speaker 1: they literally flew to the city from Ohio to collect
- 20:56Speaker 1: her body. Gets skimmed the article at his desk. He
- 20:59Speaker 1: wasn't convinced that a Catherine's line of work had anything
- 21:01Speaker 1: to do with their murderer, but the papers seemed intent
- 21:04Speaker 1: on running with it, and immedia circus was like the
- 21:06Speaker 1: last thing Gets wanted. His team was already under enough
- 21:09Speaker 1: pressure to make an arrest as it was, and it
- 21:12Speaker 1: was going to be even harder to do their jobs
- 21:13Speaker 1: now that a bunch of tips were going to be
- 21:15Speaker 1: flooding in from the public. From all this media, Gets
- 21:18Speaker 1: put down the newspaper, got up from his desk and
- 21:20Speaker 1: walked down the hall to the interrogation room. He'd finished
- 21:23Speaker 1: the day yesterday, feeling pretty confident that David was his murderer,
- 21:27Speaker 1: so when he'd sent David home, he had given him
- 21:30Speaker 1: instructions not to leave the city because he intended to
- 21:33Speaker 1: arrest David and soon. But first Gets did need to
- 21:36Speaker 1: follow up on the other leads. He had to hopefully
- 21:39Speaker 1: rule them out, and one of those leads was sitting
- 21:42Speaker 1: in the interrogation room right now waiting for him. It
- 21:45Speaker 1: was Paul Cortes, the man that David had named, who
- 21:47Speaker 1: officers at track Down and brought in the man who
- 21:49Speaker 1: supposedly was obsessed with Catherine. As soon as Gets entered
- 21:53Speaker 1: the room, the first thing he did was look at
- 21:55Speaker 1: Paul's schues, and he could see that they were a
- 21:57Speaker 1: pretty typical size too at a gland, they looked like
- 22:01Speaker 1: they could also be a ten and a half. Gets
- 22:03Speaker 1: also looked for scratches or bruises on Paul's skin, in
- 22:06Speaker 1: particular on his forearms and his hands, and he did
- 22:09Speaker 1: see one. There was a small injury on one of
- 22:11Speaker 1: Paul's fingertips. Gets asked about it and Paul said his
- 22:15Speaker 1: finger had just gotten pinched between a couple of weights
- 22:17Speaker 1: at the gym. Paul was very calm and soft spoken,
- 22:19Speaker 1: and he said he'd heard all about Catherine's death in
- 22:21Speaker 1: the papers, and he just wanted to help if he could.
- 22:24Speaker 1: When Getz told him that they'd gotten his name from
- 22:26Speaker 1: David Hahn, Paul just kind of rolled his eyes and said,
- 22:29Speaker 1: you know, David had always been jealous of his relationship
- 22:32Speaker 1: with Catherine. Paul explained that he had met Catherine at
- 22:34Speaker 1: the gym about a year ago and they'd been dating
- 22:37Speaker 1: off and on ever since. At the time of Catherine's death,
- 22:40Speaker 1: he said they had been off, but Paul said he
- 22:42Speaker 1: still cared about her and had hoped that maybe one
- 22:44Speaker 1: day they might get back together.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Paul told Getz that he hadn't.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Actually seen Catherine on the day of her death, but
- 22:50Speaker 1: that he had actually spoken to her on the phone
- 22:52Speaker 1: earlier that afternoon, which was not unusual. The two did
- 22:55Speaker 1: speak on the phone from time to time, that's.
- 22:57Speaker 2: All it was.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Paul said he actually had tried calling her a second
- 23:00Speaker 1: time that day, but she didn't answer, but Paul said
- 23:03Speaker 1: he really didn't think much of it. And then Paul
- 23:05Speaker 1: said that night he wound up going shopping with some
- 23:07Speaker 1: friends and then also to a local.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Bar to watch the Jets game.
- 23:10Speaker 1: At about eight thirty, gets made a note to follow
- 23:13Speaker 1: up on Paul's alibi. Then he asked Paul if he
- 23:16Speaker 1: had any idea who might have killed Catherine. Paul thought
- 23:19Speaker 1: for a moment, and then his eyes lit up, and
- 23:21Speaker 1: he said there had been some stalker guy named Joe
- 23:23Speaker 1: who'd been one of Catherine's regulars at the strip club,
- 23:26Speaker 1: you know, months ago. He'd somehow gotten Catherine's phone number
- 23:29Speaker 1: and had reached out to her outside of the club,
- 23:31Speaker 1: And around that same time, Catherine had actually gotten roofied
- 23:35Speaker 1: during one of her strip club shifts.
- 23:37Speaker 2: A roofie is called the date rape drug.
- 23:39Speaker 1: It basically makes you incapacitated and effectively unconscious. You don't
- 23:42Speaker 1: remember anything. People will be given a roofie and then
- 23:45Speaker 1: be sexually assaulted.
- 23:46Speaker 2: That's often its use.
- 23:48Speaker 1: And even though he'd never been able to prove this,
- 23:50Speaker 1: Paul always suspected it had been Joe who gave Katherine
- 23:54Speaker 1: that rufie. Catherine had cut off contact with Joe, but
- 23:57Speaker 1: the whole incident had bothered Paul so much that he'd
- 24:00Speaker 1: tried to convince Catherine to just quit the exotic dancing scene.
- 24:03Speaker 2: But she refused.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Paul admitted that he actually went on to call Catherine's
- 24:07Speaker 1: father to tell him how worried he was about her,
- 24:11Speaker 1: and Catherine had been so mad about that that she
- 24:13Speaker 1: stopped talking to Paul for weeks, and so Gets jotted
- 24:16Speaker 1: all this down and then asked Paul if he knew
- 24:18Speaker 1: how to get in.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Touch with this guy, Joe.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Paul said he didn't have Joe's number, but it was
- 24:22Speaker 1: definitely in Catherine's phone because the last time Paul ever
- 24:25Speaker 1: spoke on the phone with Catherine, on the afternoon of
- 24:28Speaker 1: her death, she had mentioned something that really surprised him.
- 24:31Speaker 1: She said that, after months of silence, Joe had started
- 24:35Speaker 1: calling her again, completely out of the blue. And at
- 24:37Speaker 1: this Gets studied Paul's face, looking for any hint of deception.
- 24:42Speaker 1: This whole Joe's story seemed like it might just be
- 24:44Speaker 1: a way to deflect suspicion from Paul himself. But it
- 24:48Speaker 1: really didn't feel like Paul was lying here, and besides,
- 24:50Speaker 1: Catherine's phone records would be simple enough to verify. Gets
- 24:54Speaker 1: hated to admit it, but maybe the newspapers were right.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Maybe it was time he started looking seriously into some
- 24:59Speaker 1: of Catherine's customers at the strip club. The following afternoon,
- 25:11Speaker 1: on Wednesday, November thirtieth. Detective Gets was feeling really annoyed
- 25:15Speaker 1: as he hung up the phone at his desk. It
- 25:17Speaker 1: had been a call from another reporter, but Gets hadn't
- 25:20Speaker 1: made an arrest yet, so he was staying tight lipped.
- 25:23Speaker 1: But for now, he just turned his focus back to
- 25:25Speaker 1: the stack of papers on his desk. They were Catherine's
- 25:28Speaker 1: cell phone records, which he'd subpoenaed yesterday, and they showed
- 25:31Speaker 1: that Paul had been telling the truth. Both he and
- 25:34Speaker 1: Joe had called Catherine shortly before she died, so he'd
- 25:38Speaker 1: brought in Joe for an interview, and he asked him
- 25:40Speaker 1: to explain why, after months of silence, he had called
- 25:43Speaker 1: Catherine right before she turned up dead, and Joe had
- 25:47Speaker 1: replied he'd only called her to check in to say
- 25:49Speaker 1: he hoped she had a nice Thanksgiving. He had claimed
- 25:52Speaker 1: that he was really just trying to be friendly, but
- 25:54Speaker 1: then Getz just asked Joe point blank if he had
- 25:56Speaker 1: ever roofied anyone's drink before, and at this, Joe's eyes
- 25:59Speaker 1: went and he kind of spluttered out that he would
- 26:02Speaker 1: never dream of doing anything like that. But based on
- 26:05Speaker 1: Joe's tone, Gets really felt like he was lying, and
- 26:10Speaker 1: so now Gets felt like the entire investigation was wide open.
- 26:14Speaker 1: A few days ago, he had been absolutely confident that
- 26:17Speaker 1: David was the killer, but men from Catherine's life just
- 26:19Speaker 1: kept coming out of the woodwork.
- 26:21Speaker 2: He now had three.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Main suspects instead of just one. In fact, at this point,
- 26:27Speaker 1: his original suspect, David, was actually looking more innocent. Gets
- 26:31Speaker 1: his officers had spoken to David's coworkers at the hotel
- 26:34Speaker 1: where he worked as a doorman, and they confirmed that
- 26:36Speaker 1: he really had stopped and talked to them on the
- 26:38Speaker 1: evening of Catherine's death, just like he had claimed. And
- 26:41Speaker 1: while Getz had hoped that the security camera footage from
- 26:44Speaker 1: the apartment building would prove David was lying about his alibi,
- 26:47Speaker 1: at least in terms of when he was there, had
- 26:49Speaker 1: actually showed David leaving the front entrance of the building
- 26:52Speaker 1: at six thirty eight PM, which lined up with David's
- 26:55Speaker 1: story because he said he left around six point forty.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Now, this did not prove that David was innocent.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Based on what the neighbors had heard, she could have
- 27:03Speaker 1: been killed before six point thirty eight, but there weren't
- 27:06Speaker 1: a lot of cameras in the apartment building and no
- 27:08Speaker 1: angle covered the hallway outside of Apartment two D, so
- 27:11Speaker 1: the footage couldn't prove one way or another, you know,
- 27:14Speaker 1: whether Brad Stewart or anybody else for that matter, had
- 27:17Speaker 1: gone into the apartment while David was gone.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Just then his phone rang.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Gets reached for it, expecting it to be another reporter,
- 27:25Speaker 1: but this time he was pleasantly surprised. It was a
- 27:28Speaker 1: member of the forensics team, and there was this obvious
- 27:31Speaker 1: excitement in their voice. He told Getz that they'd just
- 27:34Speaker 1: discovered something big, something they completely missed during their first
- 27:38Speaker 1: sweep of Catherine's apartment. The forensics team member explained that
- 27:42Speaker 1: when they'd first entered Catherine's bedroom, they had taken that
- 27:45Speaker 1: mattress that was stuck behind the door and propped it
- 27:47Speaker 1: up against the wall to get it out of the way.
- 27:50Speaker 1: But when they'd done that, the mattress had actually covered
- 27:53Speaker 1: up something that was right there on the wall, all along,
- 27:56Speaker 1: a bloody handprint. It was not until a couple of
- 27:59Speaker 1: days later, after they'd carefully gone over everything else in
- 28:02Speaker 1: the room, that they moved the mattress back down onto
- 28:05Speaker 1: the floor, and that's when they found the handprint. Gets
- 28:08Speaker 1: His face lit up when he heard this news because
- 28:10Speaker 1: now he knew all he had to do was go
- 28:13Speaker 1: get handprints from all of his suspects, which seemed like
- 28:16Speaker 1: that would be pretty easy to do, but he quickly
- 28:18Speaker 1: realized he had a problem because some of his suspects
- 28:21Speaker 1: had already lawyered up at this point, and they were
- 28:24Speaker 1: refusing to speak with police, let alone hand over their prints,
- 28:27Speaker 1: and Gets really could not force them to give their
- 28:30Speaker 1: prints unless he arrested them, and so that meant Gets
- 28:33Speaker 1: was now in this weird catch twenty two because he
- 28:36Speaker 1: needed the suspects prince in order to make the arrest,
- 28:39Speaker 1: but he also couldn't get their prints unless he arrested them.
- 28:42Speaker 1: So at this point, the investigation kind of stalled out.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Weeks went by, and Detective Gets started to get really
- 28:48Speaker 1: frustrated because there was just nothing he could legally do
- 28:52Speaker 1: to push the case forward. However, the case was still
- 28:55Speaker 1: receiving a ton of coverage in the press, and to
- 28:57Speaker 1: a lot of people it looked like the NYP was
- 29:00Speaker 1: just sort of dropping the ball here. But then on
- 29:03Speaker 1: December sixteenth, so three weeks after Catherine's murder, the news
- 29:07Speaker 1: coverage that had annoyed Gets so much actually ended up giving.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Him exactly what he needed.
- 29:13Speaker 1: That day, a woman called the NYPD because of something
- 29:16Speaker 1: she had seen on the front page of one of
- 29:19Speaker 1: the newspapers in New York, and what this woman said
- 29:22Speaker 1: led gets directly to Catherine's killer. Based on forensic evidence
- 29:30Speaker 1: and numerous interviews, this is what police believe happened to
- 29:33Speaker 1: Catherine Woods. On the evening of November twenty seventh, two
- 29:37Speaker 1: thousand and five, shortly after six forty pm, the killer
- 29:46Speaker 1: climbed the stairs inside of Catherine's apartment building.
- 29:49Speaker 2: They knew that at that very.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Moment she'd be getting ready for another shift at Flashdancers,
- 29:54Speaker 1: and the fact that she even worked there secretly really
- 29:57Speaker 1: bothered the killer way more than they would ever let on.
- 30:00Speaker 1: The idea of Catherine dancing and giving her attention to
- 30:03Speaker 1: other men made the killer so jealous they couldn't even
- 30:06Speaker 1: stand it.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Now.
- 30:07Speaker 1: The killer had tried to talk with Catherine and win
- 30:10Speaker 1: her over, but she had rejected him. So the time
- 30:14Speaker 1: for talking was over, and so the killer quietly walked
- 30:17Speaker 1: up to the door of Apartment two D and reached
- 30:19Speaker 1: down and turned the handle, which was unlocked. As they
- 30:23Speaker 1: slipped silently into the apartment, the killer brought out the
- 30:26Speaker 1: knife that they had hidden inside of their sweatshirt. But
- 30:28Speaker 1: then something they had not anticipated happened. There was this
- 30:32Speaker 1: dog lying on the apartment floor that got up and
- 30:35Speaker 1: began to bark at them. For a moment, the killer
- 30:38Speaker 1: thought about just abandoning the plan and leaving, but then Catherine,
- 30:41Speaker 1: alerted by the dog, came out of the bedroom and
- 30:44Speaker 1: looked right at the killer and saw the knife in
- 30:47Speaker 1: their hand. Catherine screamed and ran right back into her bedroom,
- 30:51Speaker 1: the very bedroom that she had made explicitly off limits
- 30:54Speaker 1: to the killer, And just thinking about that, the surge
- 30:57Speaker 1: of anger suddenly overtook them, and the killer charged into
- 31:01Speaker 1: the room after her. Catherine was already on the other
- 31:04Speaker 1: side of the bed, lifting up the mattress as a
- 31:06Speaker 1: sort of barricade, but the killer just forced their way
- 31:09Speaker 1: past it, and they grabbed Catherine from behind. But Catherine
- 31:12Speaker 1: she fought back. She began thrashing around, doing everything she
- 31:16Speaker 1: could to break free, but she couldn't, and so they
- 31:19Speaker 1: struggled and began smashing into the furniture and knocking things
- 31:22Speaker 1: down all over the room. And it was around this
- 31:25Speaker 1: point that the killer lifted up that knife they had
- 31:27Speaker 1: brought and they slit her neck as deep as they could.
- 31:31Speaker 1: But even then, even with this fatal wound, Catherine kept
- 31:35Speaker 1: on fighting, and she was so vicious that the killer
- 31:38Speaker 1: actually had to brace themselves against a wall just to
- 31:41Speaker 1: keep their balance. And in the chaos, the killer didn't realize,
- 31:45Speaker 1: you know, as they're fighting off Catherine, that they had
- 31:47Speaker 1: placed a bloody hand on the wall, leaving a print behind. Finally,
- 31:52Speaker 1: when Catherine fell to the floor, the killer was still
- 31:55Speaker 1: blinded with their rage, and they just got down there
- 31:58Speaker 1: and began stabbing her over and over again. And then finally,
- 32:02Speaker 1: when Catherine stopped moving, the killer just jumped.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Up and ran out of the apartment.
- 32:08Speaker 1: But when they got into the hallway, they realized that
- 32:10Speaker 1: black dog that had barked at them had gotten out.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Now the killer wanted the dog back in the apartment,
- 32:16Speaker 1: but the dog was clearly on edge, you know, they
- 32:18Speaker 1: were still barking at the killer, and so instead the
- 32:21Speaker 1: killer just shut the apartment door, trapping the dog in
- 32:24Speaker 1: the hallway, and then the killer fled the apartment building
- 32:26Speaker 1: out the back door, where there was no security camera,
- 32:30Speaker 1: And for weeks the killer was not caught until their
- 32:34Speaker 1: violent past came back to bite them. Several weeks after
- 32:38Speaker 1: Catherine's murder, a young woman who didn't know Catherine was
- 32:41Speaker 1: walking down the streets of New York when she noticed
- 32:44Speaker 1: a newspaper and on the cover of this newspaper was
- 32:47Speaker 1: plastered the face of the killer, who was currently a
- 32:51Speaker 1: suspect in a murder case. And this woman was horrified
- 32:54Speaker 1: because she knew this person. They the killer had sexually
- 32:59Speaker 1: assaulted her at a year earlier, but she had never
- 33:02Speaker 1: filed a police report. But after seeing that this horrible
- 33:06Speaker 1: person was being actively accused of murder, she called the
- 33:10Speaker 1: NYPD and she told them what she knew, and the
- 33:12Speaker 1: NYPD's Special Victims Unit used this woman's accusation as the
- 33:16Speaker 1: basis to arrest the killer, and finally, once they were
- 33:21Speaker 1: under arrest, Getz was able to get their handprint, and
- 33:25Speaker 1: those prints did in fact match the bloody handprint found
- 33:29Speaker 1: on Catherine's wall. They belonged to Catherine's on again, off
- 33:33Speaker 1: again boyfriend, Paul Cortes. David's suspicions of Paul had been
- 33:38Speaker 1: right all along. Paul was a creep who had assaulted
- 33:40Speaker 1: at least one other woman before he killed Catherine. Data
- 33:44Speaker 1: collected from nearby cell towers would prove that Paul was
- 33:47Speaker 1: near Catherine's apartment building immediately before her murder, and he
- 33:52Speaker 1: had been calling her over and over again when she
- 33:55Speaker 1: ignored his calls. Paul waited until he saw David leave
- 33:58Speaker 1: the apartment to go get his car, and then he
- 34:01Speaker 1: hustled upstairs to the apartment, knowing Catherine would be alone.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Even though David was only gone for twenty minutes, that
- 34:08Speaker 1: was still long enough for Paul to get inside the apartment,
- 34:11Speaker 1: murder Catherine and slip away unnoticed. Paul was arrested about
- 34:15Speaker 1: a month after Catherine's murder on Wednesday, December twenty third,
- 34:19Speaker 1: two thousand and five. He was found guilty of second
- 34:21Speaker 1: degree murder and sentenced to twenty.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Five years to life. Thank you so much for watching.
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