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Ep. 65 - An Interview With Ben Scrivens · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You're real allowed, so shut your face.
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  Speaker 2: Your face, grandma, Shut your face, grandma.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why we're quoting in Practical Jokers on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Now, Hello, welcome to the Impractical Jokers Podcast. No,
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  Speaker 1: this is Frightmares and this is episode sixty five. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Austin Proctor, and I will try not to shout.
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  Speaker 3: Here's you are.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your other host, Gabrielle Proctor. I guess I'll just
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  Speaker 1: start whispering. This will be the ASMR podcast. Hello, you're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Is that low enough? What is that?
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  Speaker 2: It's a thing? Can you hear? It's suiting?
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  Speaker 1: Terrifying?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, why do they do that? What is
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  Speaker 1: the point of that?
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  Speaker 2: It triggers things in your brain?
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  Speaker 1: Get that makes me want to strangle the person doing it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it gives your brain tingles and it makes you relaxed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This episode is going to be full of brain tingles,
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  Speaker 1: so get ready for that shit. Today we have a
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  Speaker 1: super special guest. Uh. He is the founder of fright Rags.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Ben. He will be on a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later, but typically when we have guests on the show,
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  Speaker 1: we usually do a little pre show warm up talk
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  Speaker 1: about talk about a few things.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know what fright Rags is, they are
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  Speaker 1: a super awesome horror t shirt company. They also do
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  Speaker 1: other limited release stuff, like they did some Halloween figures
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  Speaker 1: that were limited to a certain amount that they sold
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  Speaker 1: sold out in like ten minutes. They're actually doing a
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  Speaker 1: horror or Halloween. It's like a retro lunch like the
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  Speaker 1: metal lunchboxes with the thermos. Yep, they're doing that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think next week. So they're really They're really awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And if you've heard me talk about them a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of times and also probably seen the live streams on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook of me opening all the packages, I get I
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  Speaker 1: spend so much money on freight Rags, but it's worth it.
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  Speaker 1: We're actually wearing freight Rag shirts right now, wearing the
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  Speaker 1: Trick or Treat one that I just got, and you're
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  Speaker 1: wearing the Was that the women's or was that a
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  Speaker 1: men's one that I got you?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a men's one. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: women's shirts because they cut the sleeves cut at in angles.
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  Speaker 2: They're like jammed up in your armpit. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why women want to wear those. I mean I guess
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  Speaker 2: it's because they're cut for their wider like our wide
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  Speaker 2: lady hips are Burthen hips. Oh, I mean that's what
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  Speaker 2: it is. But yeah, I like men's shirts better. They
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  Speaker 2: tend to fit more comfortably.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got the what would you call that? Once? Like,
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  Speaker 1: is that the baseball style tea? Because it's got gold,
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  Speaker 1: It's like got gold sleeves.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like a short sleeve baseball stylty.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's got Sam on there. It's always check
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  Speaker 1: your candy. And then I just got the the Men's
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  Speaker 1: one with Sam and the pumpkin guts sore. We're wrapping
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  Speaker 1: fright rags today since we're talking about it, so it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a very fun episode. I've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions for him, and I've never had never had
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  Speaker 1: someone on the show like this. You know, we've had
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  Speaker 1: two directors, but never had someone that's like, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, well you are obsessed with them.
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  Speaker 1: So I am obsessed with them, and I'm so happy
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  Speaker 1: that Ben, you know, email me back. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to be on the podcast. It's like sweet,
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  Speaker 1: So very excited to talk to him. Since again I
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  Speaker 1: do I buy I buy a lot of freight rags.
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  Speaker 2: He basically always buys fright rags. I can say, I
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  Speaker 2: can attest as his wife that he's got a sickness.
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  Speaker 2: It's sickness T shirt.
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  Speaker 1: It's a disease. Because not only do I buy I
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  Speaker 1: mean I buy a lot. I've definitely spent the most
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  Speaker 1: on freight rags because every time I'm like, okay, I'm done,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done buying fright rags, They're like, hey, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: this is coming out, and I'm like, god damn it,
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  Speaker 1: I have to have that. But of course I don't
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  Speaker 1: just get the one shirt. I'll get one, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'll get one for you, and then I'll get like
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  Speaker 1: fucking joggers or something. Well, they don't have the joggers,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see. I get confused because there's so many horror
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  Speaker 1: teacher companies I buy from. But yeah, oh no, the hoodies,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, that's what I got. The hoodie from the
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  Speaker 1: Tremors hoodie. Yeah, yeah, sick sick cutie. So I have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of fright maire stuff. Yes, I have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of my own stuff. No fright rags. So h
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get him on the phone. Here just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but I did want to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: what I'm holding in my hand here, Friday the Thirteenth
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  Speaker 1: buck set that came in a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, there you go. Yeah. I ordered this from
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  Speaker 1: Shout Factory and it comes with every single Jason movie
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  Speaker 1: that has ever existed in the universe and two awesome posters.
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  Speaker 1: Even though one of them was a lithograph. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know really what that means, but it's like, it's this
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  Speaker 1: one over here. Oh, it felt like different material than
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  Speaker 1: a regular poster, So I don't know what it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, because lithograph is basically an etching that someone makes
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  Speaker 2: and then does a.
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  Speaker 1: Like like a transfer or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a transfer, like they painted over that and then.
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  Speaker 1: Well there you go. So yeah, I got a lithograph
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  Speaker 1: of that. And then I got the fortieth anniversary Friday
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  Speaker 1: the thirteenth big poster with Jason coming out of the
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  Speaker 1: lake at the end and grabbing that lady out the canoe.
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  Speaker 1: So it's pretty sweet. This comes with a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of new features, bonus features and stuff like that. For example,
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  Speaker 1: the first one we get a new four K scan,
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  Speaker 1: so that's awesome. And then you get the uncut version
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  Speaker 1: as well as the theatrical version, which is pretty tight
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think the uncut version's ever been aired.
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  Speaker 1: Then with the third one, because the second I think
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  Speaker 1: you get four K scans of the first four so one,
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  Speaker 1: part two, part three in the final chapter. But the
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  Speaker 1: third one they actually have the what is it the
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  Speaker 1: actual real three D? So if you're able to watch
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  Speaker 1: it in three D, I would suggest it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how I'll ever watch this in three D, so
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  Speaker 1: if anybody knows how, hit me up stay spooky outlook
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  Speaker 1: dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Right in front of you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think I don't it just would
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  Speaker 1: it just work with those? Like I mean, is it
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  Speaker 1: that simple that we could just use those? Because if
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  Speaker 1: it is, I'll give it a shot. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: more complex, right, all right, Well, maybe we'll try and
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  Speaker 1: see if it works, or I can get some other
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  Speaker 1: fancier ones offline.
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  Speaker 2: Just to watch this one movie.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, hello, I want to see that in three D.
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  Speaker 1: It's got all the it's from the eighties, it's got
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  Speaker 1: all the three D like goofy dumb tricks that they
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  Speaker 1: you know they do. Okay, nothing there, So then we
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  Speaker 1: move on to six, and we get I thought we
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to get an unrated cut of this one,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think we do because I remember reading it,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess I misread it. I don't see here.
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  Speaker 1: And then we do get an unrated cut of Goes
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  Speaker 1: to Hell. So that's pretty cool. I know that's new.
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  Speaker 1: That's new to this box set. So you get the theatrical,
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  Speaker 1: and you get the unrated and then you get so
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  Speaker 1: let's see, we've got one part two three, final chapter
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  Speaker 1: Jason or New Beginning, Jason Lives to do the New Blood. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it takes Manhattan. You gotta see this one. I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for you to watch this one. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: says Jason takes Manhattan, but really only about thirty minutes
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  Speaker 1: take place in Manhattan, like an hour of.
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  Speaker 2: It takes place on Broadway.
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  Speaker 1: No Jason the Musical. I would go watch that. I
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  Speaker 1: won't lie. So this is actually fun. This is one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite ones, just because it's so so over
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  Speaker 1: the top. And we've got Jason Goes to Hell, Jason
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  Speaker 1: X Freddy Versus Jason and the Remake. Now Freddy versus
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  Speaker 1: Jason and the Remake. They are the I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they've done anything new to them because you know, the
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  Speaker 1: remake was two thousand and nine, so there's nothing done
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  Speaker 1: like audio or you know, visual wise. Yeah, that's a word.
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  Speaker 1: I did that. And then you get this awesome, super
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  Speaker 1: awesome bonus material. You get two two f and blu
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  Speaker 1: rays of just bonus content. Why are you looking at
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  Speaker 1: me weird?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm trying to think of a jazzy opening number.
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  Speaker 1: For Camp Crystal Lake, fucking hit me with it.
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  Speaker 2: When you got it, I'll get there. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I have to. I haven't seen the movie in such
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  Speaker 2: a long time.
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  Speaker 1: What you haven't seen any of them?
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  Speaker 2: I thought I've seen part of the first one, part
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  Speaker 2: of that one with the psychic girl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh new that was a new No, that was a
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  Speaker 1: new blood that's that's part seven, and part of.
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  Speaker 2: The one where the people are in the woods's.
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  Speaker 1: I did show you the best dancing you'll ever see
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  Speaker 1: in your life, though, Crisp and Glover from part four
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  Speaker 1: with the member when yeah yeah, so you yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: like one of the best things that's ever happened in
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  Speaker 1: the world, is him dancing, Because it's it's quite it's
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  Speaker 1: quite bad, but it's entertaining. So I'm very excited to
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  Speaker 1: actually watch all these Are you still thinking of the
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  Speaker 1: musical numbers?
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  Speaker 2: Look, all I'm thinking is there's got to be like
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  Speaker 2: a plucky girl who is going to be a camp counselor,
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  Speaker 2: and she's got to be the one that makes it
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  Speaker 2: on the boat. So we're gonna have to rework the
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  Speaker 2: characters a little bit from the first film. But I
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  Speaker 2: think we could make it happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's how it has to open and then someone comes
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  Speaker 1: out like Broadway or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. It's fine. I'll get there. As
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  Speaker 2: soon as I learned to compose, it's just gonna take right.
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  Speaker 1: So we got we gotta start with composing. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta start by getting you to watch all of these first.
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  Speaker 2: You know, everything really need the first one. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want the other ones to really influence my creative process.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, you gotta watch all of them, take your
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  Speaker 1: favorite parts from each one, mash it all together into
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  Speaker 1: one giant, you know, like two hour presentation, and then
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  Speaker 1: then you have to learn to compose first. So we
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  Speaker 1: got to watch these first. Then you gotta go through
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  Speaker 1: the composing, Like, how do I do that, and then
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  Speaker 1: you gotta go because you probably don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: write either, I would assume, right, So you gotta learn
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  Speaker 1: how to write. You gotta learn how to compose. Can
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  Speaker 1: you play any instruments at all?
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  Speaker 2: Sort of the flute?
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  Speaker 1: The flute?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I haven't played it in fourteen years,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean that shouldn't really deter me. No, that'd
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  Speaker 2: be good, right, Yeah, I mean I only took it
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  Speaker 2: for three so it should be fine. All I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: is is I know the final number is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a solo. Okay, So the final number, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: the girl on the boat singing the canoe, which is
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  Speaker 2: the type of boat. Uh, you want to google it
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  Speaker 2: for you?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't, I really don't.
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  Speaker 2: She's gonna be singing about making it through this hardship,
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  Speaker 2: and then the ghosts of all the dead other people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna come up.
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  Speaker 1: In the background, like a choir or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sing with her, you know, like like Rent, but
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  Speaker 2: with more.
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  Speaker 1: Blood nine million, eighty six hundred six thousand people.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then when she collapses, then he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: shoot up and there's gonna be red light and screaming
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  Speaker 2: and then that's gonna be the end of the musical,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna be brilliant. I'll get working
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they have done an evil Dead.
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  Speaker 2: Musical where there's a splash shown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we should get on this, man, we should
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  Speaker 1: do this Jason musical. I'll play the part of Jason
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  Speaker 1: because I won't have to say or say anything. That'll
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  Speaker 1: be that'll be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you won't be there till the end of
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  Speaker 2: the film.
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  Speaker 1: What the film? The music musical?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, well this was.
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  Speaker 1: Only in the end. You're only doing this scene. This
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  Speaker 1: is where we're gonna have creative differences. I can't work
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  Speaker 1: with you. I We're only gonna do the first one.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much other good material.
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  Speaker 2: That's when you have the one second musical. Because if
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  Speaker 2: The Phantom of the Opera can get a sequel, so
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  Speaker 2: can that one. Except Jason's gonna have to talk more
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  Speaker 2: because we're gonna have to really understand his pain through Saul.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna do twelve musicals then, because there's
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  Speaker 1: twelve movies, No, you'd.
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  Speaker 2: Start jamming the parts of the other. You have to
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  Speaker 2: have the first one to establish and then the second
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  Speaker 2: one all focuses on him and then you kind of
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  Speaker 2: have a you know, it can't be like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the power of love or whatever. The second fanom of
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  Speaker 2: the Opera musical. It's not the powerful, it's not the
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  Speaker 2: power love.
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  Speaker 1: It's something but the news.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was really stupid. They made a second fan
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  Speaker 2: of the opera that takes place.
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  Speaker 1: In Phan of the Opera Phantom of the Opera to
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  Speaker 1: the Edge of Reason.
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  Speaker 2: It took place in New York, and you're like, how
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  Speaker 2: did he get from France to New York?
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  Speaker 1: What didn't just hopped on a maybe a cruise ship,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, floated over on a raft.
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  Speaker 2: Frankly, let's just all be clear. It shouldn't have happened,
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  Speaker 2: is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even know there was a second one.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't listen to it because I read enough to
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  Speaker 2: know that I would be upset.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we wait, so we should probably watch that.
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  Speaker 2: Then No, there, it's not a movie. It's a Broadway musical.
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  Speaker 2: Well I think it's a Oh anyway, we'll get working
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  Speaker 2: on that. We'll get back to you. Uh with where
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  Speaker 2: we're standing on the Friday the thirteenth Musical Now with
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  Speaker 2: more dancing with.
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  Speaker 1: More dancing, more singing, and uh more killing stabby stabby,
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  Speaker 1: stabby stabby with all sorts of stuff. I'm into this idea.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you know, we could put on like a
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  Speaker 1: little five minute Broadway show, send it to some people.
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  Speaker 2: We do not have the budget for the production.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of, Well, you know, you start, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you start in your living room, okay, and you just
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  Speaker 1: you just you know, get the idea go and you
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  Speaker 1: send that to someone and say, hey, give me all
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  Speaker 1: this money.
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  Speaker 2: But also, like if Halloween Hornites can't get the licensing
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  Speaker 2: to do a house, I don't think they're gonna let
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  Speaker 2: us do it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know what, you know what, you're right, because
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  Speaker 1: the licensing for Friday the thirteenth has been like they've
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  Speaker 1: been in a constant. That's why there hasn't been another
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  Speaker 1: one since two thousand and nine. They're all tied up.
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  Speaker 2: Or do a knock off version so that way you
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: can be in it as Blason Moore, He's.
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  Speaker 1: Blason Bloor.
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  Speaker 2: He's wow, yeah, fine, we'll do a knock off version.
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  Speaker 2: No worries, guys, we got it covered. It's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated.
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  Speaker 1: We could always do like Thursday the twelfth or something
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  Speaker 1: like that, you know, because there is a movie.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. No one's starting a camp on the on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Get your head out of your ass.
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  Speaker 1: What what? No, this camp didn't wait what what are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? The killings happened on the thirteenth, it's
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  Speaker 1: not the day that camp.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Real with you. I haven't seen that movie and like
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  Speaker 2: seventeen years, oh my god. Yeah, well there is a
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  Speaker 2: makes me feel old that I can say teens in
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  Speaker 2: the number of years it's been since I've seen a
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  Speaker 2: specific movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we're old. Okay, yeah, well, I mean you're not
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  Speaker 1: thirty yet, but once you hit thirty, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: a smack in the face.
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  Speaker 2: Just really get back on topic.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: We're running out of time.
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  Speaker 1: We're running out of time, all right. So yeah, go
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  Speaker 1: get that box that you can actually get it on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I say get it from shout Factory because
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  Speaker 1: support them. Don't support Amazon, well stuff like this, you
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  Speaker 1: know whatever. I think they actually went down in price
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  Speaker 1: two a little bit. So go check that out. It's
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  Speaker 1: sixteen total discs of Friday the thirteenth awesomeness, and I
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  Speaker 1: love It. I can't wait to actually watch all of
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  Speaker 1: them with you. It's gonna be amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And please support the GoFundMe. We haven't started for our musical.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you can find that at www. Dot I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where it is dot com.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, pay forward.
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  Speaker 1: Wats that actually be a website?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Don't support it whatever it is, we didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Friday the thirteenth box at Sweet Love It.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I guess we can probably get ready to get mister
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: ben on here. I don't have anything else to say.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else you have anything? Oh? Did we know?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about it last episode? Did we
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the Regal closing?
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: No?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think we did. I know because I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: remember I think me and Spencer talked about thet the
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: potential of it closing. But yeah, in case we didn't
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: mention that Regal is officially closing. And my heart is yeah,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I used to work there when I was a kid.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: You just go to movies there when I was a kid.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really sucks because that means that means uh
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: am paying quarters AMC's probably next, and that makes me sad.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Is that funny? I'm not kidding I used to paying quarters.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It's just funny. Did you not have dollar bills? Like?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Where did what?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I saved my change and then I went to the movies. Okay, rearly,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I had bills. Where would I get the change from?
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I thought your parents were just here, Like, here's here's
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a sack of change.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Go to the you know, go to the ridiculous. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: used to steal their change to pay for parking to
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: go downtown. Get it together.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Until they you know, credit card parking meters.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Boom, the future.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: The future is here. I don't even know we're talking about.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: We keep getting distracted with random bullshit. God, what were
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: we talking about just before that?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: The interview.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: This is already off the rails. I can't even with
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the show anymore. I can't. I can't. Yeah, I guess
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: let's just cut it here and then we will go,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're talking about Regal and AMC. My god,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: my brain is just out of it today. I worked
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: so many hours this week. I can't. Uh yeah, so
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: r ap, Regal, we know you, soup, we we know, we.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Knew you soup well, we knew you so well.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I will say that we are going to AMC.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Tonight to check out lights Out that that came out
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: in like twenty sixteen, but we don't.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I saw the short, but really.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Oh it's really good. I really liked it. I don't
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: know if I actually saw it in theaters, but I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, spooky movie. It's only five dollars, let's
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: check it out. So please please go support to AMC.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: For the love of god, they're literally doing five dollars
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: movies just so like, please please come to see us
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: because nothing news coming out, so not until everything keeps
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: getting pushed. Wonder Woman pushed, Black Widow done the hell yep, yeah,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: fucking vo D. I don't want to go to vo D.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to pay like ten dollars a movie.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll wrap it up. God, she's given me
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: evil eyes over there, all right, So we will be
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: back in just a few seconds after you hear this
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: lovely music intro again the second time, so you're right back,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: all right, and welcome back to episode sixty five of
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  Speaker 1: Fright Maares. I'm your host, Austin. That is Gabio across
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  Speaker 1: the table, and on the phone. We have in mister
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  Speaker 1: Ben Scrivens from Fright Rags how's it going.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for being on. I really appreciate it. I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: had Reach's funny because when I reached out to you
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: through email, I remember I didn't get it like anything
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: back for like ten days, and I was like, what
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the heck? I figured he would have you and then
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I realized, Oh, it's myra or it's in my spam folder.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, I probably should have checked that ages ago.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens once in a while.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for being on the show. We
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: are we are huge fans of fright rags. We uh.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I have a lot of your emerch you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I do buy my wife a lot of your stuff too.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: We're actually rocking the new trigger treat shirts right now,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: so nice. Yeah, we love these. They're really great. So
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: let's just get right into the questions here, And why
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: don't you give us a little horror background, like how
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: did you get into horror? Like what was your first movie?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: How old were you? Stuff like that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: So my first experience of horror was on October thirtieth,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty one. I was four years old and we
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: were you know, it's funny in I always remember this
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: being Halloween night, but I can track it back to
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: being the thirtieth because it was the first night. It
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: was the television premiere of Halloween, and we were I
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: recall going to a friend's house. They had a deli
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: inconvenience store and they actually lived above in the back
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: of the store.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: So it was like the store was attached to like
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: this building that they lived in.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: So we were in the back hanging out and they
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: were good friends of ours, and their kids were all
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: a little bit older than me, and my brothers and
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: sister are older than me and the youngest, so they're
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: all kind of hanging out and I'm, you know, four
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: years old, and I'm bored because my parents were sitting
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: at the table playing cards or whatever talking and I'm like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: what am I supposed to be doing? And so I'm like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: can we go?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Mom? Can we go?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And you know, like any great eighties parents, She's like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: just go sit and watch TV, like stop bothering us.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I literally just walked over to the TV turned it
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: on and that was the beginning of Halloween.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It must have been whatever time it air at eight
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: o'clock or whatever.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I actually have the TV guide where they announced the
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: movie being the premiere because I wanted to have like
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: a memento from that period. But I yeah, just sat
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: there and watched it as a four year old and
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: my parents. I don't even think new and I just
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: from I just never for got the images in my mind,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you know, from seeing that, they just you know, burned
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: in my brain.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So I just I just wanted to watch more like that.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Wow, that's that's I can't that's awesome that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you can remember the specific date. I don't think I've
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: ever had an answer like this was the day it started.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's pretty awesome.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Well that's easy to track because it has been that
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: work premiere.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, you know again, like I thought for some
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: reason it was Halloween night, but I you know, when
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I looked it up one time, I was like, oh,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: it was actually the thirtieth, which was a Friday. Ironically,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: like this year is going to be a Friday. So yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: it was just it's just kind of funny how it worked.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Out that way.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I just think that's really cool that you also have
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the TV guide from that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I got it off eBay like it several years ago,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta find this and I and
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I tracked it down and I bought it, and I'm like, oh,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: it's like it's just cool because you have this little
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: ad in there and you can see where it was
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and just I don't know, it's it's a fund momental
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: knowing that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Was like the first time I ever saw a horror.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Movie, right, especially since they don't you know, they don't
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: really do TV guides and stuff like that anymore, or
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: so to have that is pretty sweet because that's a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: very iconic movie. So so what did you like about
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the movie? You know, what did you like about Halloween?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And like what made you go back and explore more
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: things in horror?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't, you know, again, being four, I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: up to that point, you know, my movie viewing experiences
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: were you know, like Scooby Doo and Charlie Brown and Bye, and.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You know, like between TV and movies.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I think the first movie actually sat in the theater
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: was Empire Strikes Back, which I was like free But anyway,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really remember that too much, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I do remember bits of it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: But that I think with.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Halloween again, you know, being four, not having ever seen
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: anything like that in my entire life. The short four
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: short years I was on this list Earth, it was
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: just I just remember. The thing that stands out to
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: me the most was when Michael was breaking through the
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the closet at the end. And what I think why
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I remember that the most, I think is because the
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: light is on him and you see him in probably
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you see him before that, of course,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: but I mean this is like a bright light on
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: his mask and it just showed everything.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: And I remember looking at that going I was equally
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: amazed as I was scared. It's funny, I.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Don't remember having nightmares or being up after that, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I will tell you like in the subsequent years when
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I would watch that movie, I would get like scared.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's because I was a little bit older
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and new enough to be afraid.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: But when I was four, I think I was just
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: like amazed, if you will. And so that really that's why,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: like the slasher genre subgenre for it became my favorite,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: because I just kept wanting to see a person in
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the mask going after people and killing them like that
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: was just like I just wanted to see more of that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: That's perfect because that's actually my next question was what
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is your favorite genre? So do you have like a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: specific icon is it? Is it Mike Myers? Is he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: your favorite? Or do you have someone else that is
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: like just your favorite horror icon.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I mean I would okay, Michael Myers for sure, and
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: because you know how you know, it's just everything to me.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: But I will say this because when I was a
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: kid growing up in the eighties, all I had was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Halloween one and Halloween two because at the time, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I personally did not like Halloween three at the time
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: like most people, even though I love it now, you know, I.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Was such a Myers fan, but I only had two
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: movies to watch him in.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: So the flip side of that was I found Jason
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: and there was a movie every year and I could
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: look forward to that, you know, all the time. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: there were just more time spent watching Jason because there
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: was more movies to watch.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And Freddy for that matter.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: But I think, you know, Jason to me was like, oh,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: this is like the pinnacle of you know, slashing them,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: you know, just watching this guy constantly just go after
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: these people in brutal more brutal ways.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Obviously, when Halloween four came out, I was I was ready.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: To go to the theater and see that. So I mean,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you know, definitely Michael is my guy. But Jason, I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: don't know, man, There's there's a lot to be said
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: about him.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's funny because I we were just talking before because
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: we did a little pre show. We were talking about
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the uh Friday the thirteenth set box that I just got.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I think I saw on your on your story. Was
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that you that had posted it on your story?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Oge? Oh yeah, yeah, I got it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful. So yeah, that's funny because I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: didn't actually see those until uh much later in my life,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Like I think it was a couple of years ago,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I didn't get into horror until I was
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like in my like eighteen nineteen, only because I grew up.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a Christian household, so my parents
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: were like not about that at all, So I was
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I relate. I was a very late bloomer to horror.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm I still haven't even seen the Nightmares like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: on Elm Street yet. So I've got the I've got
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the box set downstairs to watch this, h you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: for the thirty one Days of Horror.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: So, oh my gosh, that's amazing that you get to
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: experience it for the first time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I'm jealous.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's there's so much stuff from like the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: eighties and seventies that I just I simply haven't seen
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: because I, like, again, I was such a late bloomer.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm equal parts of shame that I haven't seen it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But it's also like that's not my fault. If I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would have been able to watch it younger, I would
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: have definitely would have done it. So yeah, Jason's definitely
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a really good I.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I was just gonna say, see, I lucked out.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I had parents who just kind of dropped me off
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: at my friend's houses, and I had one friend that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: was super into scary movies. And even though I was
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: terrified the whole time I was watching Scream at seven,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I think I watched The Devil's Rejects like the year
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it came out. I think it was maybe like nine
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: or ten. Yeah, it's fine, I'm gonna have nightmares, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I've seen them all.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Devil's Rejects is a pretty rough movie to watch it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know I like, I, yeah, I know, Scream
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: gave me nightmares for years because my cousins let me
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: watch it when I'm seven. But you know, it's fine.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Wow, that's uh yeah, that's that's definitely
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: young for that movie.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they watched it a couple times that night.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So I just remember all of my cousins were at
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: least four years older than me, so they're all fine,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, why are we watching this?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I would generally ask you what movies you're looking forward to,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: but since there's really nothing coming out, the Halloween.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Movies are gonna come out eventually, yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, because Halloween was supposed to be out this month,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: then they got pushed to twenty twenty one, hopefully. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: mean at this point, and hey, that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Trailer doesn't get you jazzed up for the next movie.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that little that little teaser trailer. I was like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm still like, let him burn. I was like, yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I'm soaked. Did you did you like the uh, the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: most recent one from twenty eighteen?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I did you know? It's funny?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I had, you know, high hopes for it, obviously because
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: of who was involved, not only just David Gordon Green obviously,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: and Daniel Bride, but of course John.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Carpenter and Jamie Curtis back.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, all of that is just you know, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: don't even care what timelines they got at this point.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm happy.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: That they chewed the whole sister brother thing because I
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: never really bought into that, even though I listen, I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Halloween is my jam, so I mean, I'll watch anything,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: but you know, and I love how you know the
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: storylines four and five and six, so I don't mind it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: It's just I'm glad when they went back to this
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: they decided to go after part one because it felt
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: more real to and you could explore the non like
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: if it's a familial thing, then that means there's like
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: a reason. But when there's no reason and there's no
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: family tie there, then it's the scarier to me because
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: why is he going after people? And I think this
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: allows them to explore that more.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I loved it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I thought it was great, you know, I mean didn't
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: have its flaws, sure, but I think it was a
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: really I look at it almost I look at Michael
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Myers now as like Batman, you can like do the
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Christopher Nolan trilogy with Batman, but you can still have
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Ben Affleck go and be Batman.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Then you can now have you know, Robert Pattinson do it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: It's you can apply all these different stories to this
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: character because it's so.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Iconic at this point.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: So for David Gordon Green to now have his sort
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: of trilogy, you know, with twenty eighteen and then of
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: course Kills and then ends that, to me is just
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: so cool because even after that, you can still do
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: something with Michael Myers, you know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: So I'm really excited.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I you know how Only Kills is going to be
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: a brutal, brutal movie. So it's I cannot wait to
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: finally see it in action because it's gonna be Yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I cannot wait, and I'm excited to see what they're gonna.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Do with the last one.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you actually say that because we recently
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: did a Stalker Horror episode where we talked about Halloween,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: and that's actually something I said where I was like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I love that they just had a one one liner
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: thing where they kind of retconned all the other movies
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: because they took away the whole Oh, he wants to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: kill his sister and it makes it so much scarier
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: when he's just obsessed with someone for no known reason
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it and we were talking about how cool that makes
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it so much creepier because it's like what, but why her?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: You don't know, and you never will because he's not
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: telling anybody.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Well, what I like about twenty eighteen is he's really,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: if you think about it, he's actually not obsessed with
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Lauri in that movie. He's just killing it's that doctor
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Sartaine guy that wants to see those two go against
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: each other. And Laurie thinks he's after her, but if
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: you I mean he she shot him in the shoulder.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: He didn't even come after her. He just kept going,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: So it's like it's a weird thing to know, like
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: she is obsessed with him because he stoked her that
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: one night back in nineteen seventy eight. But I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: what we're going to see is like he doesn't it's
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: not like he's going after her specifically.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He's just a killing machine and she has to deal
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: with it, you know what I mean?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh no, that makes sense. Yeah, we were talking
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: about how like, yeah, oh so he because like what,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: he's just killing people on the way to her, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: they're nowhere here where where she is like, it's not
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: until someone drives him to her house.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes sense exactly. That's what I'm saying.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: That's what doctor starting character brings it together because Michael,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's sort of coincidental that he.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Ended up going after Laurie's granddaughter.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like he stalked her. He was just going
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: after people.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: So at least that's the way I'm taking it, because
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: doctors are If there's no Doctor Sartaine, then Michael never
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: gets to Laurie's house, right and there's never a face off,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like you're blowing our minds right now.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. We actually recently rewatched it and because
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing it in the theaters and I don't know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: for some reason, I wasn't super into it, and then
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: we watched it again and I just have so much
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: more love for it now and I was like, Wow,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that actually was a fantastic iteration. And I can't, like you,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where the story goes, because
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: now that you drop that on us with how the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: story is that she's not really or that he's not
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: really obsessed with her. I can't wait to see how
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it opens up to just pure chaos.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean right, yeah, exactly, because I just thought it
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was amazing when the whole scene with Judy Greer where
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: she like just starts playing the victim just to get
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: him to come down the stairs, and you're like, why
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: is she doing them? Like she's baiting him because it's
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: shooting fish in a barrel. He's not gonna come down
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the stairs if he thinks she's gonna fire the gun.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I love that scene so much. And once, like we
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: talked about it so more. You're like, oh no, that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: is a really cool scene.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because then she just shoots them, and then and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: then that whole house together, it's like it's like a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's like saw. You know, they have all these traps,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I have all the doors that go down, Like, dude,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: this is freaking amazing, Like, holy cow, she was definitely
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: ready right there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding, all right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: So we talked about so now I know you have
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Halloween movies and Jason movies for Friday the thirteenth movies,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you have any other just like really go to horror movies.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Like when you're in the mood for just something really
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: really good. You have any other like favorite movies that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you just would turn on?
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean there's a ton of them.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I mean when I have movies that I just adore, Like,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: for example, Silver Bullet is one of my favorites.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's just you know that it's weird.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I remember watching that movie as a kid, and that
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: came on every Wednesday night I was left home alone.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: My parents actually would go to their churches for their choir,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: so I was like, you know, nine ten years old,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: and I'd be home alone on a Wednesday night until
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: about ten or ten thirty, and which is kind of
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: late for a kid that age. And coincidentally, our local channel,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: well I guess it would be the Fox affiliate whatever
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: it was back then, is showed horror movies at eight o'clock.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: So you know, I'm home alone and I get to
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: watch a horror movie at eight o'clock. You know, it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: kind of a perfect up the.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Lining of the start, right.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: But I remember specifically when Silver Bullet came on, I'd
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: already seen it because we had rented the VHS, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it came on TV and I taped it and it
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: was in nineteen eighty eight.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I remember that because they had a preview.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: One of the commercials was a preview of Halloween two
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to come on TV for Halloween, which was great. So anyway,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: I had that tape for years and I would watch
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: it every year, like I would just that was my thing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Watched Silver Bullet every October and it became just like
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: this tradition for me. And now, I mean, I'll watch
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: it anytime, but it's definitely around this time of year
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I'll put it on and it's just such a comfort
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: movie for me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, I've got It's funny because
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: one of my go two ones is is Reanimator. I love.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, It's just it's so much fun. It's so campy,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and I know, I don't know, Gabby's not a huge
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: fan of it, but I mean it's just one of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: those ones I'm like, okay, I'm in the move or
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: something just over the top, Okay, it's time to I mean, you.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, anytime I want to put on a horror movie,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put on the Shining That's true.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Pretty much exclusively.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah what did you think of Did you like Doctor
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Sleep by Flanna Again?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I loved it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I've read the Shining book
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: and watched the movie, and of course those are two
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: different things.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And and then I.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Read Doctor Sleep, which I loved when it came out,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: and then when I heard they were making the movie,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: knowing that they had to they had to appease people
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: who liked the book, which is more of a sequel
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: to the book The Shining, but they also had to
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: appease people who liked the movie and had to make
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: it fit into the Shining movie who had never read
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the book. So I think Mike Flannagan did an amazing job.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was it is. I need to watch
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: it again, and only because I think there's just so
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: much to.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: It that I kind of want to just experience it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Again just kind of I don't know, sometimes movies like
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: that take a few watchings just to kind of really
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: get the full effect.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: But I mean the first time I saw I was
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: blown away, for sure.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah we were too.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's like a two and a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: half hour movie. So yeah, that is a lot to digest,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: especially but yeah, I feel my I fel Flanningan did
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a good job, because you're right, he did have to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: appease both people that read the Book of the Shining
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, watch the movie because like you said,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: they are completely different things. And I think he did
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a great job of that. And I did get the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: four K that has the extended director's cut that I
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: need to watch. I think there's like twenty exter minutes.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I do as well.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, yeah, so at some point we'll probably
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: watch that and uh, but yeah, I thought he did
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a fantastic job that whole scene alone with that kid
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: when he just starts violently screaming, would you do you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: give me a compact about that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The kid when the baseball kid. Yeah, when when he
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: did that scene, like he was screaming so aggressively that
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like it was freaking the other actors out, but he
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: was totally fine. He's done with the scene. He pops up,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: he goes over and gets a snack, and everyone else
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: is like.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is when he was taking the Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Because that was like, yeah, when they were taking the.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Smoke, taking the smets right, take their steam.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: The steam. Yeah, and yeah, and he was just like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: his his whole scene, that kid, and he was in
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Good Boys. I don't remember that act.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know his name, but yeah he
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was in that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, screaming was so visceral and you're just like, oh God,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: this is so upsetting. Could somebody help that kid?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They got a lot of really.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Good casts, yes, solid cast.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the lady who played Rose the Hat.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: She was fantastic.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't remember name up the top of
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: my head, but yeah, she was more stuff.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was really good. So yeah, I'm excited to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: see what Flanning and does next. I'm a huge fan
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of his. Uh any in pretty much any movie he's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: done has been pretty good. And even you know, Haunting
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of Hillhouse that he did. We definitely need to watch
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Blind Manner as well, because that just dropped yesterday. Yeah,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. All right, cool, I guess let's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: move on to uh, let's move on to fright rag
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: here and let's uh let's talk about you know how
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it just how it got started. Basically, I'm curious to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: know how you decided. You know what, I'm gonna make
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: my own company. We're gonna do horror t shirts. So
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: give us like a you know, brief background of fright Rags.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically, I mean as a kid.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And as I got to be older, I was always
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: into art and just creative things, and I would always
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: like try to start something creative. Like I had always
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: minilla folders when I was a kid with all these
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: book titles on them with blank paper, and then like
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I was gonna write all these books, you know, like
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: just all these things that I always wanted to do,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: but I never really like started anything. So I had
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: just graduated from college and I had gotten it was
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: on like my second job, and which was I went
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: to school for graphic design. So I was finally got
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: a job doing graphic design at a very small company
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: here that we designed laptop bag. So I was doing
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: product photography. I mean I was like the third person hired.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: So but anyway, I was there for about a year
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: and you know, it was a great job, but I
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: was I was kind of bored creatively, so I spent
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of my free time.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: On forums and message boards.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I mean this is before let alone Facebook, I mean
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: before MySpace or anything like that. So it was all
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: about message boards, and so I was I would see
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: these people making masks like Michael Myer's masks or Jason
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: mask or Freddi gloves or all these props and stuff,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: and I just thought that was so cool that this
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: community existed, that people were doing this, And I thought,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I just want to make something, and I'm into horror.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: What would I make?
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: And I've always loved weird T shirts, Like when we
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: go on vacation, I would always be very particular about
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the shirts I wanted to buy from, like the places
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: that we were at, or I just liked wearing random
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: shirts and stuff. So I thought, you know, I don't
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: think there's any good horror shirts out there. And I
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: looked some up and there was, you know, like companies
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: like Rotten Cotton that were out there was pretty much
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: the only one. And I was like, Okay, these guys
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: are cool, but it's not something I would wear. So
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I just started thinking of ideas kind of humorous, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I came up with this ww hockey mask, which stood
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: for what would Jason Do?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Because it was sort of like what would Jesus Do?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: And that was big at the time.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: So and I looked it up on Google and I
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: couldn't find anybody else doing stuff like this. I'm like,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: screw it, I'm just gonna design it myself. And I
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: was on my buddy Justin's forum. Justin actually went on
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Justin Abray went on to help form tug or Treat
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Studios and they do amazing stuff. So yeah, exactly, he's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: a good friend of mine. He's like, hey, why don't
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: you post that stuff on my message board and see
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: if people are interested? And people like wrote in saying, hey,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: you know I would buy that on.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: A T shirt.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: And so I literally just said, okay, well, I'm gonna
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: come up with a name and a website.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I knew how to code a little bit from.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Being in college, so I just slopped together something one
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: weekend and bought a domain name and put a PayPal
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: buy button on and then I had to order the
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: shirts and it was like six hundred bucks, and I
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't even know, Like my girlfriend and
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I are just living in an apartment of time, we're gonna
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: get married, and I'm.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Like six hundred bucks, Like what the hell am I doing?
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: That's that was like I couldn't pay that back, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I just charged it and started.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Putting up the shirts for sales. So that's how it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Started, and you know it, it took a long time. I
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: mean I would work on it and work on it
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: and work on it, and just I would never take
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: really any money from it. I would just feed it
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: back into the business. And you know, I would go
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: maybe two weeks without an order of times, but I
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: would just keep designing or working on stuff or whatever
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: and trying to get the word out there, and just
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: went from there.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Wow, So when when did it? When did Fright Rags officially?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: When was it like officially founded as fright Rags? And
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: then like, what was one of the first designs that
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you sold? Was it the Jason WWJD?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I started it in two thousand and three.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: And it's funny, I'll never forget the first batch of
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: shirts I got in. I had to send them to
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: my parents' house because living in apartment I didn't want
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: them to arrive with my little foyer there. And I
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: remember my buddy and I at my parents' house ripping
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: into the boxes and it was there was three designs
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: and I ordered twenty shirts each and one was what
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: would Jason Do? The other one was that hockey mask
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: from the what would Jason New design, only blown up
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: just on a shirt, so it was like this very
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: graphic image of a hockey mask. And then I had
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: one of a generic Michael Myers and it just said
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: trick or Treat underneath it, and we were so excited.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: We each put on a shirt and we went out.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I think we went, if I'm not mistaken, it was
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Cabin Fever.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: That was premiering that name. We went out to.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: The mall and we were walking around and our shirts
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: so like proud, like it was just so much, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: then we walked into Hot Topic, you know, and like
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: the person working there is like, oh, where'd you get
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: that shirt? I'm like, I made it, Like I just
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: felt so like proud of it. And then we went
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: to go see Cabin Fever and that was that was
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: pretty funny. But yeah, it was two thousand and three
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: and those were the first three designs, and I think
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I released the next batch probably a month later. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: found a local printer right around the corner from my work,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: and he started doing them out of his out of
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: his garage, and so almost like well probably in the
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: beginning was probably maybe once a week, But towards the
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: end of us using him, I mean I was there
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: like almost every day picking up shirts and working with him.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Nice. That's awesome. What challenges when you first started out
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: besides you know, I know you mentioned that, like, you know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: having to spend six hundred dollars on shirts, So did
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you face any sort of challenges with I don't know
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: printing them or anything at all. Was just trying to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: get us off the ground and start selling a bunch
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: of shirts.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's everything was kind of a challenge only
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: because I'd never done anything like this before. I never
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: started business.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I mean it was literally founded on I want to
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: make some cool horror shirts, and that was it. Like
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: that's the end of the sentence. Like I didn't have
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: a business plan. I didn't know anything about profit margins
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: or you know, costs of goods or you know, p
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and ls and all this other stuff.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I had no clue how any of this stuff worked.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to make some horror shirts.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: So every step along the way was a learning experience
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and a challenge. I mean I had to figure everything
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: out on my own because there just wasn't there wasn't.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: A kind of a rule book you know, I mean
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Actually there are, but.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I had to go searching for it myself. I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: I'll give you a real quick example. Fast forward a
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: couple of years after I started, I was in talks
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: with Hot Topic and they did order Ansparazu shirt from us.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: That you know, if anybody doesn't know, and Hot Topic
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: orders from a company, you have to, you know, get
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: all the shirts printed and you have to tag them
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: yourself with the actual hangtags and the size pickers and
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: fold them a certain way.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: There's a fifty page manual that you have to read.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, and you need them.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: You need to not only get them done in three
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: weeks and get them shipped and coordinated with trucking companies
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: and get them out to them. But they don't pay
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: for another sixty to ninety days, so.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: You've already had to pay for all this stuff up front.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Now, for normal companies, that's fine, and obviously for us
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: today that's a difference story. But I was literally working
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: out of my house as one person thing, so we
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: had to not only figure that out and get those done,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I had to use my work for the trucking company
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: to pick them up during the week, I had to
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: use that on weekends, the Palatize and my.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Warehouse that I worked at, Like it was this whole thing.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: But then I finally got the check like two months later,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: and I had.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: All these bills to pay because I had paid for
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: all these shirts.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: And I ran down to my bank and it was
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: it was the biggest check I'd ever seen in my life.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: It was twelve thousand dollars. Wow. And it said freight
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Rags on it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: And I went to the bank and I had I
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: had a separate account just for freight Rags, a personal
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: checking account, and I went to cash it or deposit it,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: and they said we can't do that. I'm like why, Like, well,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: your name it says fright Rags. There's no freight Rags here.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's my that's this other account.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I used, like, well, you.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Need a DBA to have this on your file so
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: you can put the business name on there. I'm like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: what's the DBA. Like, it's called doing business as. You
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: have to get at the county clerk's office. I'm like,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: where's the county clerks on anything? And I literally ran
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: downtown to get this application to fill out of doing
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: business as names, so I could put the name on
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: my account and get the money. Like I mean, we're
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: talking like things that I just had no clue about,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: but I had to deal with it because I was
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: forced to.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, they don't teach you that in school. You
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: know about all the stuff, So that's that's crazy. You
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: have to have to learn it as you go, essentially, Yeah, exactly,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: how Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: It's funny. And then what back in two thousand and three,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: it's like the amount of information available on the internet too,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: is so much smaller, and like now you can google
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a step by step on how to start your business,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: and then it's like, I hope somebody else has searched
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: for this thing that I need to search for to
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: get this information.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that it's definitely a little bit
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: easier to find information even today, Like I mean even
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: as opposed to say two thousand and three, thousand and five,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: it's definitely a different world.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much more readily available. So let's talk about licensing,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure you have to get licensing to be
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: able to sell some merchandise. So what's the what's the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: process for you know, going through Hey, I want to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I want to do Trick or Treat? Like do you like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: do you have to reach out to someone to say, hey,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: i'd like to you you know, you 's your name?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And then you know to use my own art. Like
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: does licensing effect what you're able to put on shirts?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm just curious about how the whole process goes
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: from getting you know, like, hey, I want to do
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: trick or Treat and how do you get that on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the shirt? Yeah?
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: So I mean licensing is definitely complex and tricky and
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: very expensive. So yeah, basically, if if there's a movie
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: like Trick or Treat, you know, I'll have to look
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: and see, hey who owns this? And you got to
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: kind of look at what companies made it because with anything,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: well movies like this, you know, take Halloween twenty eighteen
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: just for an example. You know, Blumhouse produced it, but
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Universal Studios actually distributed it, but Miramax actually was.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: The owner of the property interest.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: So you know, you have to start you have to
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: kind of be surel like Holmes a little bit and
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: start emailing and calling whoever you can find out and
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: just figure it out.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Now, that's not with every property.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Most properties, like if if you know, if we want Jaws,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: we know that's Universal Studios.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's kind of a no brainer, right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Like there's certain movies that just you know who you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: it's pretty easy to know who owns them. But there
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: are some properties that you have to do some mining.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: So once you get that contact, you have to talk
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: to the person or company involved in Generally the deal
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: works that you have to put down money as an
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: advance against royalties. So I mean, as a very basic example,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: if I had to pay one thousand dollars for an
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: advance and it was against ten percent royalties, and as
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: soon as I make ten thousand dollars in gross sales,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: then I would start paying them the ten percent after that,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: because that ten thousand dollars makescept that one thousand I
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: gave them an advance, so it's an advance payment. The
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: numbers are much larger than that in most cases, but
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that's a basic scenario. So you have in you know, again,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: depending on the company and the person who owns the
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: movie or property. I mean, sometimes these deals are very basic.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Sometimes they come with a thirty page contract that you
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: have to go through, and you know, there's a lot
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: of factors involved, and then when you get to actually
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: producing the items. Yeah, stipulations are common. Like many cases,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: you know, especially at the larger studios, they just you
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: don't have any likeness rights. You cannot use anybody's face
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: because they don't. Even these movies are so old there
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: was no merchandising elements put into these contracts. So in
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: theory you could argue that they don't have rights, like
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: the actors have control over their likeness because it was
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: never stipulated. But these companies don't want to get sued
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: because if you if they just aired on that side
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: and we put out a shirt with someone's face and
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: that person happened to be really famous and like, hey,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I never agreed to that, they could sue that company
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: and potentially win and it could look at So there's
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: a lot of times where you're just there's like a
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: blanket no unless you get approval from the actor or actress.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: For example, you know, Universal Udios owns the rights to
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Halloween three because they produced and distributed it back in
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two, and so they owned the rights to
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Hallowing two and Halloween three, So what we there was
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: no way we could use tom Akins on one of
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: our t shirts because again, same thing, they won't grant
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: us any likeness rights. Well, I'm I know tom Akins,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: I'm friends with them, so I reached out to him
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: and said, hey, can we use your likeness? I just
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: need your okay on this email and then he said
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: yeah sure, So.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Then I sent the universal and then they let us
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Because we got approval from the actual person, so they're
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: not going to get sued such a.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Quick thumbs up text message.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's just stuff like that where you
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: have to get creative.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Or figure out. So that's why sometimes our shirts. If
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: you're like, why didn't you use this person, Well they
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: couldn't unless they were turned around or in shadow or something.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Well they've got their monster face on.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So is there any I mean, I'm sure
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you've run into problems with licensing. We kind of just
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: went over that. But is is there any particular movie
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: that you've wanted to do that you just got a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: straight up no from? Because I know you mentioned sometimes
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: you'll get a straight up no. So is there anyone
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: like what's one that was like, straight up noe, we
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: It was so the one right now that we want,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: oh you know quite a bit is Friday at thirteenth.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have been trying, like.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Luckily, we've been able to work with pretty much every
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: major studio that's out there, universals, so many, Paramount Fox
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: and Disney like you know, and it's it's been great,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: and we have relationships with these companies, so now when
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: we negotiate new contracts or things, that can be like,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: hey can we add this movie or do this? And
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: it's great, But Warner Brothers, for some reason, I've talked.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: To them for years and years and years.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I've been to their offices, I've met with them, I've
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: sent them samples. I've really tried to get in there
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: because they have Friday at thirteenth, they have Nightmare Elm Street,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: and you know, we had done those shirts in the
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: past as unlicensed sort of limited day, but we stopped
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: doing that years ago because I said, I don't there's
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: a lot of other companies doing that still, and which
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: is fine, I don't do what you want, I don't care,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: but for me personally, I was like, I'm not going
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: to do any.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: More of these until we can get it done officially.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: It's just I didn't we were doing everything else officially,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Why were we doing these you know, three day limited
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: editions just to get in and out and not have licensing.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I want to get it official, and so in you know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: that was god six five six years ago we started
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: doing that. So in that time, I've been trying to
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: get the license and it's just not happening.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: And especially with the litigation between the Thirteenth.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Creators and then even night we're on the street with
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Craven's the state that's put things on hold even further.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: So I don't know when it's.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Going to happen, but if and when it does, it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I want to wait until it's official.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It's funny we were actually talking about when we before
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you came onto the episode. We were talking about the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: DVD or the Bluey set, and we were making jokes
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: about a Friday the Thirteenth musical and I was like, oh, well,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: we couldn't get the licensing anyway because no one can
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: get it because the Halloween hornit's has been wanting to do,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you know, Friday the Thirteenth houses for years and they
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: can't get it either. It's like nobody's touching that franchise.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So since you so, what is the deal with the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth? And it's been held up for a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: while because I'm just curious as to what the reasoning behind,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Like why no one like, what's the deal with thirteenth?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Why can't anybody get like rights for it or licensing?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's two things.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: So the one thing is the lawsuit between Sean Cunningham
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: and Victor Miller because of the creation of the character Jason.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Victor Miller wrote the original movie.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: And copyright law allowed him to get the rights back
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: to that story several years ago because it had been
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I think it was thirty five years. It reverts back
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: to the writer unless there's a new copyright put on
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: it or something. I don't know these specifics, but basically
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Victor Miller now has some sort of claim to the
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: original story or the origin character Jason.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: And so there's there's a lot So basically.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: That kind of prohibits sort of future movies and where
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: the character Jason can go. And then there's there's territories
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: like you know, us versus overseas rights and things like that.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So again I don't, I don't. I'm not a lawyer.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I can't speak, but it's just to the specifics of
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: it because I don't really know, right, but that's the gist.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: But I do know that Jason Boreh's sort of hockey
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: mask character the Killer without maybe.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Even calling him Jason.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I think is that I that iconic image of you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: obviously what we all know from the different movies. I
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: think that is still a merchandiseable, like like Warner Brothers
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: is still allowing that because you know, Neka is still
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: doing some of their characters and you.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Know there's still things being made.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: But again, Warner Brothers, again, this is just my experience,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: they just have not been open to licensing out to
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: various companies for whatever reason. You know, they've already they
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: do have some partners. There's some much larger like wholesale
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: teacher companies that sell to you know, everything from hot
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: topic to like Jason Penny or seers. The mass market
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: they consider like Kohle's and Walmart. They're still putting out
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: some things, but they just have been so resistant to
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: allowing more independent companies to take it. And whether it's
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: the lawsuit or not, I really don't know. I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: it's it's frustrating because there's so many properties that we
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: could work with and we could do some great things.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Although they're just starting to work with, Like I think
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: they're doing their own shirts now on their own store.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, I don't know what their internal
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: sort of talks are, but it doesn't seem like it's
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: going to be anytime soon for us.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe one day, maybe one day. Yeah, So because I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's other companies like you that I
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: do buy from because I've seen Friday the Thirteen, So
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I have a couple fart of the thirteen shirts from.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I believe it's terriff Thread. So are they doing this
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: kind of when they're not really supposed to because they do,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like you said, they do like the seventy two hour,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: here's Partner and nine. So they're kind of just doing
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: this without permission, right.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And I mean, yeah, I'm listening. I'm not trying to
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: throw anybody under the bus.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, definitely not.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: But and again we've done plenty of that too. But yeah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of those types of companies. Yeah,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it's something like that, it's done, you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: just unlicensed switched again.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: We've we've done plenty times in the past ourselves, so.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay. I wasn't sure because I just remember the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: whole rights thing of licensing, and I was like, I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, I have Friday the thirteen shirts from
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: these other companies, Like, how the heck did they do it?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: So they're just doing it unlicensed?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Now that is actually really interesting.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Can they then? Can they get in trouble for that?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Because I know you said if they put if you
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: put someone's face on there, and they say, hey, I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: didn't allow this, But I mean, can you still get
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: in trouble even if you don't have someone's face on
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: there like the Jason character? Can Oh?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean of course you can. That's why
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: these things are gone in three days. I mean that's
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: when we get it. You get in and out. See.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you the reason why I know is
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: because I got in trouble for one of those times.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Speaking from experience, we had a nice legal, very legal
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: document sent to me in two thousand and five.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: When I was doing what would Jason Do shirts?
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: And because the hockey mask I used on the shirt
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: was so close you know, of course to the you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: one of the original masks that is iconic to Jason.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: So the letter basically went on to say that they
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: own the trademarks to the mask, meaning that I shape
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: the shape of the mask, number of holes in the mask,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: the triangles. So basically, if you do anything that looks
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: like that, you can get sued. Now, in general, they
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: send a cease and desist first, and then you know
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: they have all of these things they want they want
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: you to send you all. They send all the inventory,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: all the reporting, and all this stuff. But for me
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: at the time and that you know, that was not
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: the That was the first season to sist letter I received,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: but not the last over the year. And what I
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: did was I actually made the mask look so much
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: different and it actually looked like one of those cheap
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: o like two dollars hockey masks that you could find
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: at like a like a CBS or something, because it
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: removed the shapes that they were telling me about. And
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: I put it back on the design and I actually
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: sent the lawyers the design. I said, listen, this is
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: a parody design and this mask looks nothing like yours,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: and this is what I'm going to continue to sell.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: And I mean that, which is pretty ballsy, like I
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: gotn't even why I did.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: That, but it's so funny because they agreed as long
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: as I didn't call it Friday thirteenth, which I never did.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: I'd always called it WWJD, And funny enough, I put
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: the new design back on my website. I contacted Hot
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Topic because they were actually interested in the original one,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: but I couldn't give it to them because the season assists,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: and they ended up buying eight thousand over the next
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: six months to put in stores and that was everywhere
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: for a while, and even due to Freedlander wore out
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: and thirty Rock, which is kind of funny. So that
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: new design breathed new life into that whole thing, and
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I was able to keep selling it without getting sued.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Because they took their trademarks out of it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: So nice.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. I mean, I've experienced something like that
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: in a very minor way, because I sell some of
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: my illustrations on on red Bubble, and I've had a
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: few designs where I've seen like I'll check if other
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: people are putting up designs for like this or that
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: fan art kind of thing, and I've had a few
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: where they're like, yeah, you don't own the licensing, we're
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: taking this down, Like, oh yeah, fine, you found me.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: It's fine. Honestly, it's mostly just Stephen King's Stephen King's.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what happens.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like I said before, I've gotten
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: a few letters and they're scary. I mean I've even
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: had to set a lot of court in.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: A case where I end up paying like.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Five thousand bucks to get out of getting sued, you know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: to a major studio. And that was back when you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: I did not have that kind of money. So it's
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: you definitely have to be careful, and you know, it's weird. Today,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's almost easier because it's so rampant.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, not only are.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: People doing stuff like that unlicensed on different sites, let
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: alone their own, but like even like license stuff, like
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: our stuff gets ripped off on other sites, and it's
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: like and we have, you know, with legitimate licenses, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: all of our stuff is legitimate, and we have to
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: take those people down because they're stealing our art, just
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: our artwork. So they're not only doing it unlicensed, but
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: they're stealing our license artwork to do it. So it's
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: it's rampant on the internet and it sucks, and you
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: know whatever, there's so many people. I think it's hard
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: because it's not easy to get these licenses, and when
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: you do, you know, it makes you want to protect
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: that understanders. But it's hard when a case like prior
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: to thirteen, when no one's giving you the rights and
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: there is demand for it, and so I don't you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I don't blame people for just supplying the demand there
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: because they're not going to be able to get it
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: any other way, you know what I mean. It's not
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: like they could just get it and decided not to.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: It's like it's not happening, you know, right, So I'm
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I'm sort of like, well, then start offering it to people,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: you know, like you know, I mean, it's just that
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: we decided to make a choice not to do the
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: fright thirteen stuff anymore in eight license. But I don't
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: I kind of don't blame people for doing it because
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, what, whether choice is there, you.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Know, no exactly, And yeah, that's that's why when I
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: saw them, I was like, well, you know, I do
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: like supporting businesses, like you know, like you you know you.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I love the shirts you make, so it's like I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: want to buy them from those companies. I don't want
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: to really necessarily go to hot topic. And plus, you
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: know the quality of your shirts are insane. Like I
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: remember the first time I got a fright reg shirt,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is so soft and comfortable.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: And I can say he talks about it a lot.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I'm quite obsessed. And it's it's funny that you mentioned
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the people ripping you off, because I don't know if
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: you've seen, but I'm usually the one. I don't know.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have other people. But anytime I see that,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: because I know most of your designs, if I see
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: it and I'm like, oh hey look it's fright Rags.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Oh wait no, this is some other place, so I
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: will screenshot and then I posted to the fright Rags.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Uh your your your Facebook page and usually it's oh
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: what's her name that answers, oh my god, yeah Liz,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, they're stealing your artwork, these sons of bitches.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: You you go get them, and she's always like she's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: always like thank you. I'm like, hey, I got you guys.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Because nothing's more frustrating, especially for you guys, but me,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: it makes me mad because I'm like, you're literally ripping
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: off something from another place and trying to take it
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: as your own, like come on, seriously, and especially with
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: your designs. I mean, like you said, you're paying a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: lot of money to get the licensing. So it's just
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: it drives me crazy. So I always tried to help
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: out when I can. You know, Liz is always nice. Actually,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: my last one of my last orders didn't get delivered,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: and I was so upset because it was the Halloween
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: three stuff and I had been super stoked for that
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: because it had been out for a while. So I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: messaged you know, support and I was like, oh my god,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: my package didn'tet delivered. And she sent it out like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the next day to me, and I was like, oh
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: my god, you guys are just amazing good customer service
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: was was fantastic. So I really appreciate you guys just
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: sending me stuff because USPS just decided to not deliver that.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Our particular post office doesn't like us anymore because we've
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: we've lost so many packages recently. They're like, we didn't
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: deliver it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Good luck and everything. Else has come straight straight to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the house, but this one, the one that was super
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: stoked for. They're like, yeah, didn't get there, and trying
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: to argue with the post office is like just like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: talking to a brick wall. They just don't care.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's hard, Like it's so hard for us
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: because obviously we do our absolute best to make sure
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: everything goes out and everything's right. But once we hand
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: it off the post office, like, it's not in our control,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: but we we also understand that we're responsible. So when
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: the case like that, you know, I mean, lives and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Kimmy are they're great. So I mean they'll just take
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: care of people, because that's what.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I tell them.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Just do what you can, take care of the customer
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: and you know what's within our control. So yeah, I'm
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: happy she was able to handle it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just an absolute joy to talk to you.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: So I really I really think her for that. Let's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: see what else I got here. Oh yeah, so let's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: go back to the licensing real quick. Now. With the licensing,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I know we talked about briefly. You know, it doesn't
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: affect what you can put on the shirts, but people's faces, Yeah,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: people's faces. But is there. Do you have to say,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: send like a few designs and then like, you know,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: how does that work? You have to come up with
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: a few mockups that they that they approve or do
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: they just basically give you a list of this and this.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: You can't do this? You can do I know you have.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Every design has to get approved.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: So we do have sort of parameters for each property
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: what you can can't do within reason, and then we
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: go off and come up with concepts and you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: again every studio or company is different. Some companies trust us,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I mean to the point. I mean we can send
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: it to them and we know based on their parameters
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: and our.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: History together that it should get approved no problem. But
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: it still has to get approved.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: We can't put anything out until it's got the stamp
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: of approval. But I mean there are other companies where
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: it just takes a much further. It's under more scrutiny.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: You have to explain things. You have to say what
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: this is from, you have to say where the screen
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: grab is from. And then there are times where you know,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: you try to do something you think is going to
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: be a complete hit and they it gets shot down,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Like we did this Jaws design uh for Universal that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: we thought was great and with Jaws asked to go
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: to Universal but also has to go to Steven Spielberg
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: and Ambulance Entertainment for them to look at okay wow,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: and we and to be fair, I don't know if
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: he's looking at himself with his people and ambling on.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Somebody is. I mean, I it'd be cool if he was.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if he has to do it.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: But anyway, and we had this really cool design where
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: the shark was coming up and you know, we can't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: show Quinn's face obviously, but he was turned around and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: it was like he was going to battle the shark,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Like the shark was kind of looming up over him,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: like coming to get him, and he was ready to fight.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: And they sent that the notes like it looks like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: the shark is about to eat Quinn and we're like, yeah,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen the kind of what happened,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: and they're like, well, this this is too like I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: forgot the exact note, but it was something like this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: is too scary or we don't I'm like I'm like
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: that this is like are you trying to write kindness
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: into like the Fan the feel Good Picture because.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Comedy, that's a pretty bloody scene when Clint gets up.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's yeah. They said there was too much blood
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: on the sharks teeth and like, but he's eating people.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Do you know what this is about?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: What the heck?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: We deal with it, and you know, some some I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: g I said, some companies can be a little bit
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: harder to work with. And it's funny because we do
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: get comments when we put stuff out, like.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Why didn't you do this?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: Like, well, there's a lot that goes beyond behind the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: scenes that you know. It's not it's not just we
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: can do whatever the heck we want, you know.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, uh, Like I was saying earlier with the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Red Bubble, they started getting licenses that like people can
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: submit artwork to and I've read through, like they have
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: a long list of things and it's like different TV
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: shows and stuff, and some of them are like, you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: can do anything but this character. You cannot do this character.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: You would do anything else but that, and then some
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: of them are like have fun, don't make it creepy,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: and then they just like and then if you get
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: like approved, they'll put their little like I know, Adult
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Swim has a bunch of stuff that they'll put their
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: little Adult Swim on your page. But it's really funny
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: to read some of the like the do's and don'ts
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: of what you can do and then you just have
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: to send it and hope that they're cool with it.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: But but I do like the ones where are like,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: absolutely no way can you show this specific person or
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: this specific thing. Everything else we don't care.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Well, now we kind of know why, because you know
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. Was
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: there any particular one you can think of that was
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: really tough to get approval or get a hold of.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Is there one that kind of stands out like this
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: one was really tough to actually.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Get done obviously besides besides the.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Thirteenth Yeah, I mean there's there's probably hundreds. In my mind,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: the one that stands out to me that went through
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: three different iterations, and it's interesting that the limitation actually
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: proved to be a better result.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So basically, when we got the thing from Universal.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: We were told that we could use Kurt's face, but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: it had I think it had to go through him,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: but Universal would submit it to him.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: It was just weird things.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: It's funny because we can use his face in Big
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Trouble Little China, which is a Fox property, and that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: was way easier, Like I don't know if he still
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: had to give approval, but we seem to have a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: much easier process with that. But with the thing, and again,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: it wasn't It was just something where I guess it
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: was in his contract that he has the likeness approval rights,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: but there was no limitation on time. So it wasn't like, hey,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: after ten days it's deemed rejected or after ten days
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: it's deemed approved if he doesn't get back to so
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Universe was like, listen, we don't really know if he'll
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: get back or not, Like you know, I mean.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: He's a busy guy. He's not like he's got to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: deal with this stuff, right.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: So we submitted it anyway with his face, and then
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: we came up with two other concepts showing almost like
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: a skull face, and then we had the one where
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: he looks like kind of like the cover of the film,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: where the light's kind of coming out of his face
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: and obscuring his face, and we hung on to the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Kurt Russell one for a while, just hoping that he
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: would see it. And it's not like universals hitting him
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: up every day. They probably send him on an email
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: because they don't want to bother him either, So I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: get it. Things get lost. I didn't expect him to
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: even see it. I was just kind of hoping, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: then like months later, we realized it's probably not going
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: to happen, so we pre submitted the one where he's
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: more in shadow of the coming out of face and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: when I look at him all together, that's like my
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: favorite one.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: So it just worked out better that we couldn't use
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: this face.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Actually, Oh that's funny. Do something to say again. Okay,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: So when it comes to actually designing the shirts, do
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you have like specific people that always do your stuff?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Because I know, every once in a while it seems
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: like you work with a whole bunch of different people.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you have like a set
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: team of artists or if you'll kind of reach out
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: and have someone do something. So I'm kind of curious
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: as to how many people are actually you know, submit
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: artwork for fright, because your team, yeah, who's in the arty?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Basically like for us when we get a property, there's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: well There's a couple of artists that we have sort
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: of exclusives, Justin Osbourne and Kyle Crawford.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: So those guys are going to pretty much work.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: On everything that we get because I just I just
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: love their style. They We've been working with them for years.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: But then when we have other ideas, you know, when
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: we get a property, we'll think about like what we
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: want to do, We'll think about ideas and we'll say, oh,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Justin could do this type of design, Okay, get him
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: on that. Kyle's good for, you know, taking like images
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: from the movies and repurposing them, which is cool.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: That's an other aesthetic.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Or we might be like, hey, we want to do
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: like a really cool pulp novel cover, Oh go to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Yanik because he's really good at that. Or we want
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: to do a comic book art type of thing, Oh
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: go to Blasman because.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: He's good at that. So it's like we have all
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: these people.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: On like a like a speed dial, you will, that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: for styles that we like, and then once in a while,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: you know, a new artists will come by and be like, hey,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: I want to submit you know, ideas or or show
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: you my work, and we're like, oh, that's a great style.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: We'll keep you on the list when we think of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: something that could fit your style. Because so it's it's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: very much us curating that Sometimes there's existing work that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: we really like that we reach out to the artists
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: who did it for that company and try to make
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: sure that obviously with a company, that it's okay if
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: we use that artwork as long as you know, approved
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: by a studio.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Like we've done stuff with Mondo.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Before where some of their posters we use on our
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: T shirts and things like that.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: So and that's sort of almost kind of like.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: A collaboration, but in general, like we kind of curate
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: and craft the ideas, not necessarily specific ideas, but we're like, oh,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: we like the style, go to this person and like
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: so with Justin, we sometimes will give him an exact
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: idea what we want, and sometimes we're like, hey, this
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: is what you can and can't do. Send us back something,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: and he'll send back an idea and more like whoa,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: that's amazing, you know, maybe change this or whatever. And
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: then once we get to the point where we all
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: really dig it, we'll send it to the studio and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: then they'll make their notes and depending on the idea
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and they have to go a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: couple of rounds of approvals until we get it right
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: for them at least right right.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, what's a couple that Justin have done? And then
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: what's a couple of Aaron have done? Shirt wise?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: So Justin, I mean he did the ones that I mean,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: I love everything he does.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: But he did our He does basically our flagship designs
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: for each property. So when you take.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Halloween, he's done, like the one where Michael's face is
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: coming over Laurie and she's on the steps and she's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: looking out kind of towards the viewer.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: And what I love about that one is that he mirrored.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: That for Halloween twenty eighteen when he had Laurie standing
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: there with a gun and Michael's face above her and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: she's staying on the streets.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are just some of my favorites.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: Kyle is done. I mean, she's I mean just a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: ton of designs for us. I mean, one of the
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: ones I really dig is another Halloween one where we
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: have the scene where she's by the kind of closet
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: door and you know, Michael will just appears. So we
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: put that just in black and white, but without Michael's face,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: and then we covered everything with a glow in the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: dark ink and we made the glow in the dark
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: face of Michael. So when you it, you gotta charge
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: it for a long time into the light, but as
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: soon as you glo.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Out, he appears once you turn the lights off. So
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: that that was a cool one. So we like to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: mess around with those types of designs.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. So, uh, give me a couple of like
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: some of your just all time favorite shirts because I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: think I think the first ones I ordered, I believe
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: it was Chucky two when they live, because I really
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I love the Chucky two or Child sorry, Child's play
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: two of my apologies. Uh. I love that design with
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: you know, because he's got the blade for his hand.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: So I got that one. I absolutely love that one.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I also love the Otis I Am the Devil. Love
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that design. Oh yeah, yeah, there's so many I love.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if you had any like particularly
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: just favorite shirts that that you liked out of all
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the ones you have.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, like obviously Justin comes to mind
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: because he just does this great work and so like
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: there's a Sleepily Camp two design that we did several
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: years ago that and he's got that retro sort of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: vintage AD's VHS vibe that I just feel like that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: could have been the VHS cover of that movie. I mean, listen,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: I love the cover of that movie anyway, so I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: wouldn't want to change it, but I just mean, in
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: an alternate universe, that would have made an excellent cover
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: for the movie. It's funny I when I just want
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: to grab something to wear, I tend to gravitate toward
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: more simple designs, so I usually grab our TV ads,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: like we you know, going back to seeing Halloween on TV,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: we started developing a series of shirts that looked like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: old TV Guide ads, so it was like a it
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: was an actual ad, but you know, it looks like
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: an actual advertisement premiering the movie.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: And when we did one for Halloween.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: I had Kyle put the actual w UHF thirty one
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: logo that from the from the channel that I used
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: to watch my horror movies on Wednesday nights.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: I hadn't put that logo on the design because I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: just thought that would.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Be great and it was like a hallmark to my
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: child and of course, we followed it up with Part
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: two and Part three, and then we've even done Part
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: four and five and so on, so and we've done
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: them for other movies too, like Chopping Mall and anything
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: that we feel like makes sense for that. So when
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: I go to grab a shirt that I want to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: wear twent of hours, I tend to gravitate towards just
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: like a one or two color design. I don't know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: that's just sort of my aesthetic. But you know that said,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I don't know. I just it's like,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: you know, these designs are like your babies.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Like your children.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: It's hard to you know, it's hard to pick favorites sometimes,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: but there's definitely been a ton over the years.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: That I've really enjoyed.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way because every time I go
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: to pick a shirt, I'm like, I don't even They're
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: all so great it's hard to pick one. It's like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: can I just wear all of them at once? Because
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: they're they're also awesome. So I know recently you guys
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: did the Halloween Nano Force the figurines, and I was
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: a little late, actually it was barely late to the party.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I got there like ten ten I think, and they
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: were all gone and I was like, I was like, shit,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: So I know, I know people have asked you, and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I know it you I saw the Facebook video you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: did like thank you for buying them. They went out quick.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to do those ever again?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Because those are those are pretty sweet?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Thanks? Uh yeah, so what we're gonna do?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: You know, it was, you know, we were hoping that
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: they would sell well or whatever.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: We had no idea. It was in the ten minutes.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: You know, some people, you know, they kind of come
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: in and like, why didn't you make more? You know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: you could have sold more.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Well, guess what, I don't have a crystal ball. We've
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: never sold little army Men before and I get it
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: at Halloween. But at the same time, like, if we
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: don't sell twenty five hundred units, then we have to
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: find a place to put the remaining ones, and that's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: money on the shelf, and you know, it's it's there's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of sun costs here that people don't realize.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: So you know, it was a shoot regardless. And you know,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: if if if I had a magic wand you know,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: or or I had a magic eight ball or something
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: to tell me what to do.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: I would maybe have done it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: A little bit different, But in terms of re releasing them,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: you know what, what I generally do, you know, because
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: we we had said these were limited twenty five hundred
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: and we want to we want to stick to I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: always hate when companies will be like, oh limited, Oh no, no,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do more now, and then it kind of
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: it kind of you know, On one hand, I would
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: wouldn't mind it, because then it would help these people
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: on eBay that are trying to charge like two hundred
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: dollars for these things, which I think is insane and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I hope nobody pays that.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: Kind of hurts the people that we're there at ten
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: in the morning and got excited.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: You know, it takes a little bit of that excitement away,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: So what we want to do is and and again
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: we don't have a date right now, but what we'll
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: probably do is re release the set.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: However, we're going to switch the colors.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Of the characters, and the orange ones will be black
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: and the black ones will be orange.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: So basically you're getting the same exact thing.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: It's just you can tell which one's the second series
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: and which one's the first, So we don't want to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: devalue or you take anything away from the first series,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: but it still gets people a chance to get the set.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the colors are fun, but you know,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: it's still the figures. It's still the same thing, you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: So that's kind of what we're planning and doing.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I like that because I do like the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: fact that, yeah, the people who were there, you know,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: and if you if you re release them again, it'd
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: be like, well, what the heck. So I like the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: fact that you're still going to do it again, but
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you know, just switch up a little bit. That's that's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: pretty cool because like I said, I was definitely I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: was going to buy because I think it was limited
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: to I was going to buy one for me my friend.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, oh my god, it's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: ten oh nine. I went onto the website really quick,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, that was extremely fast crap.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely would next time, I'll have to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: set an alarm just to be on, you know, ready
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: to go, because those are those are pretty sweet, especially
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: the Glow and the Dark one. I really like that idea.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: And I like that you're kind of, uh, is this
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: the first time? This is like one of the first
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: times have you that you did this right, because I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: like that you're kind of branching out to you know,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: like figurines. I mean that's pretty sweet.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: First time we did those particular ones we had the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: first time we ever did like a figure. Well, we've
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: done some different things in the past, but the main
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: figure years we've done this year.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: We did the Joe Bob Briggs figure back in April,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: which sold out real quick.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: We did a variation of that in August, which also
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: sold out. And so we've got we've got other things
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: in the works for next year where we've got a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: plan for some some pretty awesome stuff that I cannot
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: wait to start sharing with people.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: I mean it's way too early now, but.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some fun things that we've got in the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: works for figures and even even nanophords.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: We've got some other ideas.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I also saw the Halloween lunch box. You
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: guys are dealing with the thermos. Yes, that's pretty cool.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: How did that idea come about?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: Actually, you know Joe who is the founder of Forthcastle
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Media MC toys. He's a been a friend of mine
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: for years and we've never actually worked together much, but
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: we've been friends and he actually he was the one
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: that we did Nano Force with as well, and he
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: brought these ideas.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Actually, what a lot of people know is he brought
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: these ideas to last year.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Because he he's the one that's created Nano Force and
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: he also does these lunchboxes for other properties, but he
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: is sort of the manufacturer of them, He's not the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: one necessarily getting the licenses. And he was talking to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: Diamond Select, which distributes to lots of stores, Complix Stores, Target,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: all these other stores, and they wanted to do something horror,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: and they wanted to do nanofce horror and lunchboxes. And
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Joe was like, well, I know a guy who's got
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: some licenses and it came to me. So this was
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: going to be a collaboration just for Diamond as an exclusive,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: the lunchbox and the Nano Force. It wasn't even supposed
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: to come into our website. And we worked on this
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: last year and then got ready for Toy Fair.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I went to Toy Fair.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a table there, but I was with
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Joe and Diamond was showing these, and we were showing
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: these at Joe's table with a few other things, and
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: basically the idea was we would be attached to it
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: because we helped design the packaging and other things, and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: of course we had the license, but we weren't going
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: to sell them. These we're going to be put out
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: into stores and other things. And Diamond was going to
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: commit to twenty five hundred nanophors and you know whatever,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: lunchboxes and that was going to be it, and that
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: was gonna be great. And then COVID hit and it
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: shut everything down and Diamond was not buying anything, and
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: we already had these things in the works, like Nanoforce
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: was already being made, like this was there was no turning.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Back now, and we were like, what are we going
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: I mean we I guess we could have held it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: up at that point, but we still had some sunk
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: costs into it. And I just talked to Diamond and Joe,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: I said, why don't we just do it ourselves. We
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: can put it on our website. We're still going and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: Diamond was like, yeah, go for it. And then we've
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: talked to Joe and talked to the studio and they're like, yeah,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: that's great.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Just make it a freight raging thing. And that's what
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: we did.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: So that was sort of the entrance into this whole thing.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: And now that we've.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: Done it, and I mean the nanoforce was successful, we
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: have other ideas that we want to do. And then
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: with a lunch box or like, all right, we'd already
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: committed to a certain amount, but I said, after nanopores,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: we got to open this up to a pre order
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: for five days because if we sell out of the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: lunch boxes in ten minutes, that's just not going to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: be happy for anybody. So that's one of the reasons
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: why the shipping on the lunchboxes is delayed so much,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: because I want to make sure we have we can
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: we can make more. So it's still a little bit
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: of a crapshoot because we have to commit to a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: certain number so extra so you know, hopefully they sell well,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: but at least this gives everybody a chance to get one.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that pre order, if I'm not mistaken, starts Wednesday,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: October fourteenth at ten am and then that goes through Sunday,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: October eighteenth or nineteenth, that's right, eighteenth, Yeah, which is and.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: As long as you get your order in by then
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: you know you're guaranteed one. I can't guarantee that we're
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: going to have extras afterward. We might have some, but
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: definitely not you know, a lot.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like that because it's that way. If
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I happen to not be on right at ten, I'll
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, I can I have a couple of days.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool that you know you're And then
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: are you just gonna make the exact amount because or no?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: You said you had to have a certain amount. So
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many you guys are gonna sell, because
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: if you sold out of twenty five hundred figurines in
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: ten minutes, I can only imagine what five full days
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: of pre orders is kind too.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I honestly, I don't even know what to expect anymore,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: because I'll tell you this whole COVID thing is is well.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: First of all, I never knew what to expect.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: You just never know, you know, you hope for the best,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: but some things do overwhelming good and some things just
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: are underwhelming. But COVID, I mean I say that because
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: of this year has been obviously crazy for everybody and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: just insane just in general.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: But for us, it was just explosive in our growth.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't even think we'd be a business after March
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: because of what happened, you know, lockdowns and things like that.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: I didn't know, you know, last thing people are thinking
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: about our horror t shirts. But apparently it wasn't because
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: we just can't. We had barely been able to keep
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: up these last several months. So it's been very interesting.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, you know, when I get the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I get the email, it's like, hey, you know, just
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: due to COVID, it's it's going to be might be
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: a couple extra days on shipping or whatever. I'm like,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: that's fine, I totally understand. But it's actually good that
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: you guys have been yeah, because it's the same for us.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: We work in the mortgage business, and we were like,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: oh god, people aren't going to be one of buy Wow. Yeah,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: they're like people are going to buy house. No, No,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: it's been busier than it's ever been. So I get
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, like of like, I don't even know
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to have a job because of COVID,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh wait, why are we so busy.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: What the hell is going on?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one has time.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: To go out and go shopping. They all have to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: shop on their phone.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: True.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now they're shopping for horror T shirts and houses
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: like you do.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Apparently, apparently horror T shirts and buying houses are
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: the are the hot thing this year.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, mortgage rates are low.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: We actually refinanced our house because we're like, oh, we
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: can go a point lower, let's do it.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're stupid low right now for for refinance rates.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: What was I gonna ask one more thing?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so if you can, I totally understand if
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: you can. But is there any like, maybe some sneak
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: peaks that you could throw out to the listeners?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, we've got something.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: So we've we've got obviously the rest of the year plan,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: but we're gonna be putting something out on Black Friday.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: Obviously it's gonna be one of our biggest well it's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: gonna be the biggest sale of the year. But we've
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: got a new it's a new collection of this title
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: that we've already done in the past. We've got some
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: new Silent Night, Deadly Night items coming up. And one
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: of the things is gonna be pretty awesome. It's actually
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: a full on.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Like ugly Christmas sweater like sweater sweater, not like.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Not a faux sweater, but like a knit, a custom
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: knit sweater, which looks pretty amazing.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: So that'll be out on.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: Black Friday in addition to our big sale and everything.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be pretty awesome.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: And is that gonna be uh limited sale or is.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: It just that, Yeah, that's going to be pretty limited.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously to have it in time for to ship,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: then we have to commit to a certain numbers and
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: we can't and again production on those is weeks, you know,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: so we have to just set a number, and so
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: it's limited by that number. And honestly, because it is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: such a seasonal item, that's not something that we're going
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: to be keeping in stock for a while. So it's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: grab it when you can because you know, if it,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: if it even comes back, it wouldn't be until this
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: time next year.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: So right, right, Okay, so that's you said, that's Black Friday, Right.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be Black Friday. Right.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: One person who's getting one, Oh yeah, I'll be on
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  Speaker 2: there at ten am.
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  Speaker 1: Alarm set buying all the stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Well, don't forget our Black Friday sales starts at Thursday
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  Speaker 4: night to Friday and midnight.
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  Speaker 1: So oh that's right, that's yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be there. I'll be there there, like we
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  Speaker 2: have to leave, he has to go buy things online.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it, right. Yeah, Well that's pretty I think
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  Speaker 1: that's all the questions I had. That was a very informative.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to just let people know where you
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: can let people know where you can find them, like
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: on Facebook and all that stuff. I think your fright
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  Speaker 1: Rags on Facebook, right, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: It's Facebook dot com, slash forward, slash, fright Rags. I'm
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter and Instagram just at fright Rags one word,
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  Speaker 4: and then the website is frightrags dot com, but it's
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: fright dashrags dot com.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, all right, And you can find us fright
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Maar's podcast on Instagram. You can find us fright Mayors
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, fright Mayor's Underscore pod on Twitter, and then
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: we're also on the Slasher app and that's just Frightmar's podcast.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: It's like Facebook for horror people. So it's pretty cool.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Then go ahead and stay on the line and everybody
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in. Tune in next week. Until then,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: stay tuned, stay spooky
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  Speaker 3: At