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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: I got my body back, so where was I?
- 0:03SPEAKER_00: For a long time, I told myself that I would feel like myself again when I lost the weight.
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: After becoming a mother, my world became very small and very full at the same time.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: For the first two years,
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: so much of my attention went toward my son that I barely thought about
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: who I was outside of being his mother.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: What he needed,
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: what he was eating, whether he was sleeping, where we needed to be, what came next.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: I don't say that with regret.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Those years mattered enormously to me, and I wanted to be present for them.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: But somewhere inside all of that love and responsibility, a part of me became very quiet.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Sensuality was certainly one of those parts.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: I kept telling myself that it would come back later.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: When I lost the pregnancy weight.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: When my clothes fitted differently.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: When I felt comfortable in my body again.
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: So eventually I did lose the weight.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: I became stronger.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: I started enjoying clothes again.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: I looked in the mirror and recognised my body in a way I hadn't for a long time.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: And then I waited.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: Where was she?
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: Where was that part of Julia I thought had simply been hiding underneath a few extra kilos?
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: She didn't automatically return.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: That was when I started wondering whether perhaps I had been looking in the wrong place.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: Because when I really thought about it,
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: I hadn't started hiding that part of myself when I became a mother.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: I had been doing it for years.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: I left Brazil when I was 17 and moved to New Zealand.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: I became very aware, very young of how a Brazilian woman could be perceived outside Brazil.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: There were stereotypes around being sexy,
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: sensual, wearing certain clothes, moving a certain way.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: And whether those assumptions were fair or not, I became conscious of them.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to be misunderstood.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: I didn't want anyone to think that because I was Brazilian,
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: because I had a feminine body,
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: because I might naturally express myself differently,
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: I was somehow less respectable.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: So I adapted.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: I learned to contain certain things.
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: I became more careful about how I dressed, how I moved, how I entered a room.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: I often avoided eye contact.
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: I looked down.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: I made absolutely sure nobody could confuse confidence with invitation,
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: femininity with availability, sensuality with promiscuity.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Later, professionally, that instinct became even stronger.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: I wanted to be taken seriously.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: I wanted colleagues to see my work, my intelligence, my results.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: I never wanted being the woman in the room to become the most interesting thing about me.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: It hurt.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Not because I wanted my boss to be attracted to me.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: I absolutely didn't.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: It hurt because somewhere inside me, I knew what he had noticed.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: I had become very good at switching that part of myself off.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: Perhaps I had confused being respected with making myself completely neutral.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: And then I became a mother,
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: and whatever was still left of that side
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: of me disappeared even further underneath nappies,
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: routines,
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: exhaustion,
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: and the enormous emotional occupation of taking care of another human being.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: By the time I finally felt physically confident again, I realised something strange.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: I had changed my body, but I hadn't changed the relationship I had built with it.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: A few months ago,
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: while I was at Mindvalley University in Tallinn,
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: I saw an evening event called Love Touch, a tantric connection experience.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: Even the word tantra made me hesitate.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: I am married,
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: I am a mother, and I knew perfectly well how that word could sound without context.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: I didn't go because I was looking for something sexual,
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: and I certainly wasn't looking to cross a boundary in my marriage.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: I went because I was curious.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: Some part of me was asking,
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: could there be something here that helps me reconnect with that part
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: of myself I have spent years keeping under control?
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: The experience turned out to be very different from what someone hearing
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: the word Tantra might imagine.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: We were fully clothed in a yoga studio.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: There were clear boundaries and constant reminders that nobody needed to participate
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: in anything that made them uncomfortable.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: We moved to music.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: We danced.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: We worked with the senses.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: At one point, wearing an eye mask, you simply received sensations.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: A scent, something gently brushing against the skin, music around you.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: But the exercise I remember most had nothing to do with touch.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: We had to look into another person's eyes.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: I was paired with a woman from Canada whom I had never met before.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: We didn't speak.
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: We simply moved with the music and looked at each other.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: It sounds like almost nothing.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: It didn't feel like nothing.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Try looking into another human being's eyes for several minutes without filling
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: the silence,
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: without joking,
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: without reaching for your phone,
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: without looking away because you suddenly feel exposed.
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: It is extraordinarily intimate.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't sexual.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: It was human.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: For someone who had spent years instinctively lowering her eyes,
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: there was something almost confronting about being asked simply to look.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: Not seduce, not impress, not perform.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: Just look and allow myself to be looked at.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that one evening suddenly transformed me.
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: I don't know that Tantra unlocked my creativity or
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: that Kundalini changed something measurable inside me.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: I can't prove any of that and I don't need to.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: What I do know is that experiences like these have made me more curious
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: about how much of ourselves we quietly abandon.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Sometimes because we become mothers.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: Sometimes because we enter a profession where we think softness will make us look weak.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: Sometimes because we learn that ambition makes people uncomfortable.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Sometimes because we are afraid femininity will undermine authority.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Sometimes because somewhere along the way we received the message
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: that being sensual means being sexual and that if we want
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: to be respected we should distance ourselves from both.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that anymore.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: And I don't think marriage means the only relationship I am allowed to cultivate
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: with my body is the one I have with my husband.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: There is also the relationship I have with myself.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: That might be the part I had forgotten.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: And perhaps you have forgotten something too.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: Maybe sensuality isn't your thing at all.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Maybe the part you lost was your creativity,
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: your ambition,
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: your playfulness,
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: your confidence, your curiosity, the way you dressed, the way you laughed.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: The things you wanted before everyone needed something from you.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: If you've spent years taking care of children,
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: building a career,
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: keeping a marriage together,
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: managing a home,
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: being responsible and becoming very good at being everything everybody needed,
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: you may eventually look around and realize you can't quite locate yourself inside
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: the life you built.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: I don't think the answer is to go backwards.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: I don't want the Julia I was at 25 back.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: I want to meet the woman all of those experiences created.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: The mother and the professional.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: The wife and the individual.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: The serious woman and the sensual one.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: The woman who can walk into a room knowing what she is talking about
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: and still feel Your way back,
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: It might not be Tantra.
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: It might be dancing,
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: therapy,
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: meditation,
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: exercise,
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: traveling alone,
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: wearing something you haven't allowed yourself to wear in years,
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: taking a course,
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: starting the project you've kept postponing,
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: or something as small as lifting your head when you're walking down the street
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: and meeting another person's eyes instead of automatically looking at the ground.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: The method matters less than the question.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: What part of myself have I been keeping in the dark
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: because I thought I wasn't allowed to be her anymore?
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: And maybe, when you find the answer, you don't need to become her all at once.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: You can simply start letting her back into the room.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: Just Julia.