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Chris O’Connor: Three Cycles Inside the SSP, Advanced Healing Technology & the Secret Space Program · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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Hello, everyone.
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It's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets, joined today by
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Chris O'Connor, who served 60 years on an alternate timeline in the
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Secret Space Program, the SSP, known as part of the 20 and Back program.
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The 20 and Back program refers to a covert space initiative in which
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participants serve 20-year terms in off-world operations before being age
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regressed or moved into a clone of the appropriate age and returned to Earth,
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often with their memories suppressed.
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All right.
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So Chris I was just talking to you before the show.
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I've been reading, some of your book that you have out, and it is phenomenal.
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I'm getting crazy downloads.
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Man of Mimas, is that how you pronounce that?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Beautiful book, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, "Wow."
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I've ha- I've been regressed in Gaia.
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They had me in Gaia for several shows.
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And had a expert come in and regress me so I could go into those
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memories which are, like you're talking about, they're suppressed.
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And I just had a flood of stuff to come out.
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Wow, it was great.
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But you have been able to tap into that.
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So it's gonna be quite a interesting conversation.
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So thanks for joining us.
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It's an absolute pleasure, Michael.
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Thank you so much for inviting me on.
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Absolutely.
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I saw you with Kerri Cassie, that was a great show.
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Hopefully we can get into some deeper aspects in this one.
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Now, tell us a little bit about your background, from the childhood,
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how you got into the program and all that kind of stuff.
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It's interesting.
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I a- I, before I incarnated, so here on Earth, I actually made an agreement.
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My soul family and I, my, people I work with, as we all have we had a plan.
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And I wanted to represent the Earth on on the space station and the the
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Earth embassy on the Mimis station.
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The only way I could do that… And, because for the most part,
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there is a non-contact with Earth.
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It's very limited contact.
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You have to get special permission by the Confederation
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of Planets and it's a whole thing.
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So there is a caveat to that, that if you incarnate through the human race, and this
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is the same for any race that's evolving.
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If you incarnate through them, then any memories that come
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through, you can talk about.
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So it's not considered interference.
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So that's the reason I went through the incarnation route, 'cause otherwise
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I couldn't just pop in on Earth, that, that was being not allowed.
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So we made an agreement that when I was two years old,
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they would basically take me.
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I, when I say they I are, am generally referring to the
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US Navy and the US Air Force.
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And, 'cause they worked together collaboratively off-planet, which is
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kinda now it's Space Force really, but-
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Yeah, exactly
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we didn't have it then.
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Thank you,
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President
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Trump.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So they took me and they age advanced me.
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They have technology to do that.
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Now, that advancement process isn't fun by any means.
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Basically it's, what they do is they'll take you I, here I am.
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I was two years old, so they took my two-year-old self in 1970.
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I was born in 1968.
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1970 they came and got me, and then they took me somewhere, I don't know where.
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I was two, I didn't know.
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But I just remember it was very medical looking like a laboratory.
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And long story short, I was stripped down and cleaned and placed in
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these it was just like an, a large acrylic tube, laying horizontally.
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And it was like halfway or so filled with this pink liquid, a gel, but not quite.
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Yeah.
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And so they drowned me in it You know, and the first several seconds were
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quite terrifying, and I re- remember all of that really well, obviously.
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It's traumatizing.
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And then they flush the tank and fill it again, and basically my brain
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realized that even though it was much more difficult, 'cause I'm not getting
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air in my lungs, I'm getting liquid-
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But my body and brain calmed down because they were getting enough oxygen.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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So it's highly oxygenated fluid.
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And there's a, it's based on the DNA- Let
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me, let me stop you there and kinda regress a little bit, if you will.
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Sure.
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Your before you came in, so you said you had an agreement, and now
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you've talked about your past lives.
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And how in depth have you gone into your past life memories and so forth?
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How many past lives and all that kind of stuff?
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I don't s- I clearly don't remember them all.
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I remember highlights, obviously.
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Yeah.
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But I have had 2,876,000 lifetimes.
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Oh my God, that's amazing.
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That's
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I- But most of us have had that many or very similar.
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Wow, no kidding.
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Yeah.
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Yeah I've had a… The thing that really, I think, initiated my memories
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of the secret space program was going into my past lives and having past
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life memories, and then it kinda like just opened another door for me.
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Yeah.
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Is, did you have any of that experience as well?
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I, absolutely.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I have memories of other planets.
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I have memories of being an animal.
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I have memories of of my last chronological last earth life.
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It was on the island of Kauai, and the guy's name was Walter Duncan McBride.
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And-
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I heard you, you talked about that and there with Kerry Cassidy.
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That, that was fascinating-
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Yeah
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… and how you had all those memories.
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And now you live in Hawaii, and you see all the stuff
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that you did in that lifetime.
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Wow, that's pretty cool.
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Yeah, had I not moved to that island to, interestingly-
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Yeah
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… that actual town that he founded.
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Gosh.
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And I didn't know that at all.
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I had none of the memories when I moved there.
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I just knew- Okay … I was listening to guidance, and they're like,
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"Okay, here's a house over here. Try to get that one." So that's,
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that's interesting, the, the past life memory seems to open some kind
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of block that we have as SSP guys.
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Is that what you feel too?
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Yeah.
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I find what it is when I, when one memory- … unlock- unlocks or comes in,
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then it brings- Ah … others with it.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
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And do you think because of all your past lifetimes, and probably some of
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them were pretty significant that's why you were chosen for this mission?
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Yes, because what I did was work on a I don't know, James Ring says Chris,
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I guess we all need politicians." I wasn't really a politician, James,
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but but for the most part I was I work in an ambassadorial type of a role.
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Yeah.
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You know- Interesting … 'cause I worked with a lot of races that, and I had
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the ability to telepathically connect.
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And there was, I wasn't the only one.
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There were several of us.
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Wow.
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And yet you kinda mentioned James Ring there.
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I saw that you were … And I was gonna go to this one the October 8th last year.
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Unfortunately he passed away soon after that.
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I think he's probably was targeted.
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But you spoke at that one.
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Yes.
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So your word's getting out there.
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This is great.
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You got a book, you got this healing modality that we're gonna
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talk about here in a minute.
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Or, at some point.
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Okay, so sorry to interrupt, but this is oh my God, I got somebody that- … I
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can talk to about all this stuff.
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Kinda makes sense.
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So it's you're kinda like, helping me put the pieces of the puzzle together.
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Oh … i'm sure maybe there's probably other people out there.
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That's how it happened for me.
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People started coming up to me and saying, "You know you're in
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the Secret Space Program, right?"
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And I'm like no.
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Kinda?" And and then it started to happen for me.
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So-
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Elaborate, right?
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Yeah.
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Then I started going, all the way back to, like you're talking
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about, back when I was very young.
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And then the memories started coming through.
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Now I don't remember the pro- the process that you went through, but I do
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remember being age re- age accelerated.
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But I was doing stuff, and it was painful.
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It was almost like getting some kinda like super high tech steroid or something.
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And I grew a lot faster than normal, painfully.
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The stuff I was learning, it was great.
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So let's go back to where you're in this acrylic tube or whatever.
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I have memories of being in those tubes as well for healing
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when I was killed in combat.
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So that's- … that's very interesting.
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It's the same technology, really.
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Yeah.
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I, i- in my case- And I'm sure many I can't speak for anybody
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else that gel, that pink goo or whatever you wanna call it
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Is based on your own personal DNA, so it's grown And then highly
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oxygenated, and then but the whole body needs to be able to take it in.
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So what they now, what they then did was there's all these little holes, rubber
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holes on the edges of the, all the way around the the acrylic tube, and they
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would stick these large needles in.
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And they would go into the or- certain organs and joints and
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bones and brain and all this stuff.
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And that, what that did was that got that gel inside the body so the inside of
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the body would grow as, at the same rate as whatever's exposed to the exterior.
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So basically, I was a two-year-old suspended in a
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tube of pink gel by needles.
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There's a scene in the movie Wolverine Origins-
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Yeah
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… where they put the, I don't remember what it's called, but it's like a
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metal, liquid metal into his bones.
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Yeah.
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And when I first saw that, I was like, "You gotta be kidding. They actually put
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this in the movie." I couldn't believe it.
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Yeah.
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Of course, it was a different thing, but it was the pink gel, growth gel.
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But yeah, so I was in there for like- To
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me, it was Avatar, where he's in that tank.
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I have memories of being in a tank like that, but h- and having,
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like these tubes and, stuff like you're talking about inserted in
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me to, And my DNA, they had my DNA.
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They have all of our DNA, so they can reconfigure us if we lose limbs or die.
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I remember being dead, and as long as they refurbished me to a certain extent,
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I, my soul would come back into my body within a certain period of time.
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So like you got 40 days, 30 to 40 days before your soul is like, boop, gone.
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So if they can refurbish your body, you will go back into your body.
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And they can put your soul in a stasis as well.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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Because it's all vibrational.
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It's all frequency, and it's the frequency that our pineal gland puts out
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that that they match that technology.
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In fact, that's where this originally came from,
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nice.
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Was theirs can pull consciousness out.
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They could erase memory with theirs and all.
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Mine doesn't do that, but and so what it does is it just, you can just suck
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it out and then put it in a copy.
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From my understanding, it can only really be a DNA match body-
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… Because the pineal gland frequency, it has to be able to connect.
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And then that way, I'm in… And honestly, 'cause, I was killed once, and I had
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to get moved one time, a second time as part of a negotiation, I wanted
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to be put in a 20-year younger body.
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And then the fourth body, which is this one was two years old in 2030,
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and they moved me back to 1970.
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So-
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Wow.
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So was the, it moved me … Dean's device used during that time frame?
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Oh, yeah.
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Abso- Okay … that's how I know about it.
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Okay.
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During that- Yeah … that r- really, that would make sense.
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You have a very traumatic experience, so it really locks in.
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So tell us a little bit about this Dean's device.
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This is fascinating.
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Yeah.
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This is it.
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This is one of the, versions of it.
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There's a couple.
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It's actually 13 magnets in series in the handle.
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And then it, once the, the circuit that's created magnetic frequency and the
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circulation of that magnetic field wants to come up and around this magnet, but
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this one is polarized this direction, so as the energy comes up and around, it's
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pushed out, and that creates a vortex.
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And that vortex you can penetrate your body with and it's a piezoelectric
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energy and a magnetic energy.
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Interesting.
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And it's excellent for pain relief.
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It helps with all sorts of amazing things, and that's what we used it for.
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But the one in the SSP is electronic, and so it can be programmed.
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This is not.
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This is simply na- as natural as you can possibly get to create magnetic
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energy and piezoelectric, because the piezoelectric, some people
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say piezo, I don't know, whatever-
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Sure
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… energy is what the brain creates, and it's what the nervous system uses.
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So-
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… This creates… And there's two ways to create a piezoelectric energy.
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One is to crush a crystal.
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The spark that'll come out of that?
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Yeah.
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That's piezoelectric energy.
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The other is to- turn a magnet against its, desired position
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So right now, this is how it wants to rest.
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But I turn it and I put it in, and that creates Piezoelectric energy 'cause
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I'm going against the magnetic field.
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Yeah.
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And so it's… Yeah, so that's the whole concept of it.
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And,
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Then you have s- the seven chakra level crystals, different
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colored crystals, right?
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I do.
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… I'm having to have many hundreds of them recut and it takes a while, but yes.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I- Big, big- I'll take them up
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right now.
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Pardon?
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Big demand right now?
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I better get my, I better get my order in quick, huh?
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Yeah.
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I'm- My
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audience is gonna be all over this yeah, I better get it in right away,
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yeah.
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It's- Yeah … it might take a couple months for some people to get it.
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Wow.
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It depends how quickly they order.
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There's not too many that I've already built that are left.
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Yeah.
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They all will be rebuilt again.
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And I build every single one myself,
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wow.
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It takes a little while, but-
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Yeah
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… I can get them out.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure you're, you got the right frequency to, and vibration to build them
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too, so that's something that you can't just teach somebody right o- overnight,
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I know.
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Yeah.
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Every single one is prayed over and it's like energy put into it, and-
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Oh, wow
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Even better.
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Yeah.
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So let's go into, So you basically built your… You, they built you up, and then
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they started to put you into the program.
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Yes.
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And this is something that you had volunteered for.
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Yes.
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And let's go into that aspect.
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There's so many- Okay … there's so many questions.
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I wanna get to the moon part, and it that's gonna be good too.
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So let… How did, how do you get to where you're supposed to be
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from that, that, little child and they're like age re- progressing you?
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Once they age advanced me, they had to unlock my memories.
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Wow.
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Which then they did.
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Because our memories are all there, it's just we are generally, they're
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scrambled so that we can't access them, and that's part of the veil of
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forgetting when we become incarnated.
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Right here, yeah.
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Huh.
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But they, if you know the frequency, because time's a wave and, as the
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wave travels through the valleys and troughs of a wave, right?
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Each valley, each peak has a timestamp and each valley has a timestamp.
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So if they wanna- E- erase your memory or scramble it really then
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they know the timestamps of the time period they wanna do that.
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And so then they go in and they program that, and they push a button, and
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you forget or… And it's scrambled and, you can't remember or access.
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Your brain can't access the memories is what it is.
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But they can reverse it also.
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They can unscramble those memories.
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And so that's what they did, and when they did then I'm like, "Oh, okay.
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Yeah, I remember why I'm here now.
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I remember what my, mission is, my job, my desire." And so for the first
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20 years I was pretty much on Earth for the most part, 'cause my agreement
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was I would give 20 years in service to the United States so c-, since they
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were gonna host me and, they were, this was all stuff they were doing.
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So for 20 years I, I kinda learned how to use the deams, or they
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don't call it the deams, but I do.
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I learned how to, do memory transfer and I've learned how to, access
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telepathic and empathic abilities, so I could communicate with other beings.
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And so that, that takes a while.
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So I, the first 20 years was pretty much here on Earth out
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in the deserts, underground, so-
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Yeah, I have memories of training underground in different facilities
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and then going out into space and doing all kind of crazy stuff.
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Maybe we'll get into some of that.
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But I'ma read just a little quick paragraph from your book, Man of Mimas.
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Okay.
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And so just so everybody can see.
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J- just hearing you talk, everybody's, I'm sure at this point, like stunned
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with the amount of information you have.
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"You can't perceive higher densities without the right technology or training.
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Your eyes, ears, even your mind are not tuned to those frequencies by default.
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But governments, especially those involved in space operations, do have
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the technology to pierce these veils.
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They have something which I call a density engine." So I'm not gonna give any more.
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So you have to go read the book.
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But wow, it's and then you started talking about different frequencies
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and dimensions and so forth, and I was like, now I understand.
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Just like you were talking about the time, how they can, program
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you so you don't remember.
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Wow.
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That's you have you brought back a lot of knowledge.
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Now, was that part of what you came here for so that you could share some of this?
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Yes.
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It w- it's broad sweeping-
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Yeah
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… mission is just to help with disclosure and help bring information so people
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can begin to open their mind, open their thinking, and understand the
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greater cosmos and our place in it, because we have a tremendous place.
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That we've been tricked into forgetting about that.
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Right.
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And I'm not talking about the veil.
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Unfortunately religion and politics and a number of things that are, that were
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put in place so that we'll, we will fight one another and be separated,
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and we're not seeking source or God.
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So we are distracted, and that was the whole goal.
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So that's why I'm speaking out because I'm like, "Let's not be distracted anymore.
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Let's look into it." And I tell people, "You don't have to believe what I
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say." I… and honestly, it doesn't matter if anybody believes what I say.
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What matters to me is they hear what I have to say with an open mind.
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Very good.
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At some point something might be of assistance to them,
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and that's my whole goal.
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That's fantastic.
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And you're like me.
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You're all about love too, and that's one of the valuable things that
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you're sharing and which I share.
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Now, th- this is interesting because it seems like for me, it's…
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I'm still in that warrior mindset, trying to, defeat this deep state apparatus
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this control system that's keeping us dumbed down to a certain extent.
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To a great extent really like you're revealing right now and in your book.
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Where do you see yourself right now?
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I'm just here, trying to create a a, a- an environment of no judgment and- Sure
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… hearing people and expressing myself to help support others A, they don't know
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that they don't believe they're crazy because that's one thing we're all told.
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We're vivid dreamers.
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We're, psychotic break or whatever it might be.
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I've heard it all, and I want people to know if you have memories, you
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have things going on in your life a- and they're difficult to quantify
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with with reality and with day-to-day what we've been taught and told.
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That's okay.
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Let those things come in and just put them up on a shelf in
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your mind, but don't reject them.
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As soon as we begin rejecting them, we become disingenuine to our own soul.
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Good point.
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And we're here to evolve the soul.
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That's why we're here.
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And then part of evolving our own personal soul is to support
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others in their soul evolution.
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And and so we gotta just trust ourselves and and be non-judgmental about it.
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So I see Lisa Schermerhorn.
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She's she says, "I have one. It's amazing." Lucky girl.
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Yeah.
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I love Lisa.
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She's amazing.
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But some of us have these memories and I've, I've talked
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to people over the years.
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I used to, do one-on-ones and so forth.
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And I would tell people you're part of the secret space program."
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And they're like, "Really?" And so as for me, it's very obvious for some people,
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but I don't really… At this point, I'm not, "Hey, you're you are all secret."
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I don't do that anymore 'cause it's like you have to fi- like I did and like you
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did, you have to find your own experience, what, what's gonna unlock that.
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Yeah.
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You can be intrigued by it.
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Like you think, people are listening to us and if something triggers, I
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have, I've been having memories and so forth," that's kinda maybe a gateway
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for you to do some explorations.
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Yeah.
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It's just catalyst.
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It's a catalyst to get you thinking and to change your thought patterns-
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… To one of being self-accepting and le- late- less judgmental of the self.
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And then that'll just carry over between you and everyone
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else once you can do that.
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And then when you do that, what it is the subconscious…
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i'll tell you why that matters, is that, the mind I always look at
22:09
it in three three layers, right?
22:11
There's the conscious mind on top.
22:13
The middle is the analytical mind, and then the subconscious mind is down lower.
22:18
It's just a visualization.
22:19
But the subconscious mind remembers everything.
22:24
There's nothing hidden from the subconscious.
22:27
But the analytical mind, when these thoughts come in, the first thing we do
22:30
is, "Oh that, that can't be real." "I must be crazy," or as, "I'm just making
22:35
it up." And they're memories trying to come through and remind you who you are.
22:40
Yeah.
22:40
So what we have to do is kinda silence the analytical mind- Yeah
22:44
and take the judgment out, and then it can float up to the conscious mind.
22:48
That's what makes meditation amazing, is the analytical mind, you kinda
22:52
put it to sleep, and then suddenly these things come into your conscious
22:55
mind, and these memories and these experiences, and it changes your life.
22:59
Yeah, and I think that's one of the biggest stumbling
23:02
blocks for a lot of people.
23:03
The meditation, proper meditation practice and how to quiet that analytical mind like
23:08
you're talking about so these insights and so forth co- can come thr- through.
23:12
Obviously, you have a, an excellent meditation practice.
23:15
You're able to tap into a lot of this stuff.
23:18
For me, like I said I went to Gaia and, had a lot of these memories, and somebody
23:22
found out about it and was like, "Oh, come to Gaia. We're gonna, we want you
23:24
to go through this do these shows." And they did the, regression on me.
23:29
Basically took me into that, those, that li- those lifetimes.
23:33
And just the stuff just started spilling out.
23:35
The woman that did the regression said, "I've never had anybody," and she's done
23:39
thousands of people, "that have, that has come out with so much information."
23:43
It's pre- it was pretty amazing.
23:45
So it was … But it seemed like I hit a brick wall after that.
23:49
It's almost like I, I got sh- a lot of stuff that was ready to come out,
23:52
and it got sucked out, and it's okay, we have to build that back up again.
23:55
I … It's been a while, but I have been building memories.
23:59
So for you, is it a, is it, are you constantly hitting, getting memories?
24:03
Or how's it working for you?
24:05
It really depends on me, where I'm at vibrationally.
24:08
Yeah.
24:08
If I like last year I had some real health issues from a bone infection, and
24:15
I just felt just terrible for months.
24:18
So I wasn't really able to connect during those times- Yeah … because I
24:22
was too focused on the physical form.
24:25
But when we can kinda set it down
24:27
And, meditation isn't necessarily sitting in silence.
24:31
Meditation can be anything that gets you in the, a calm state of mind.
24:37
For example, my favorite way to meditate is on a treadmill.
24:41
I'll get in there- … I'll put it up to the highest level, and
24:44
it, like a walk, it's not a run.
24:46
And so I just lock my body into that motion, and I leave my body.
24:50
I am like floating throughout space.
24:53
My wife Tracy's like that.
24:55
She like pulls out.
24:58
Yeah.
24:58
I've had, I actually, I've had to be put back in my body by some unseen force.
25:04
Wow.
25:04
'Cause I was getting too far out, and they're like,
25:05
"No." "No, you gotta go back.
25:09
You gotta go back."
25:10
That's funny.
25:12
So some of the technologies that you're obviously healing technologies, is that
25:16
kinda where your focus was, or did you…
25:19
'Cause I have memories of flying ships and I have memories of calling ships.
25:24
Of course, like you talked about, the Navy and Air Force
25:27
is involved in these programs.
25:30
My memories of these ships were they had consciousness.
25:34
I, I connected with the I had to be trained how to connect with
25:37
that consciousness 'cause these ships won't work with just anybody.
25:39
You have to have a certain level of consciousness.
25:41
And then once you reach that state, then you become very connected to that ship.
25:45
Do you have any experiences with that?
25:47
I absolutely do.
25:48
It I've been on ships that when you walk on board, it's like it's like a little
25:55
puppy that's really happy to see you after you've been gone all day long.
25:59
And you can just feel that energy.
26:01
Wow.
26:01
And it, it knows all about you.
26:03
Provided you've been on the ship before.
26:06
Yeah.
26:07
First time you enter a ship like that, if it doesn't know you, you
26:10
feel a slight uncomfortable vibe.
26:12
Who are you?
26:13
What are you doing here?
26:15
Yeah.
26:15
And then it learns you, and then and then yeah.
26:18
In fact there's a race called the Largons that actually build those ships.
26:24
I don't know if you're familiar with them.
26:25
I, I've
26:25
never heard of them, no.
26:26
Yeah.
26:26
I think I can actually, if you wanna see a picture, I can show you.
26:29
Ooh, yeah.
26:29
Awesome.
26:31
And this is another thing I wanted to ask you, 'cause I have these memories.
26:34
'Cause a lot of people are like, "Oh, these… We're human, and then there's
26:38
these other races and so forth." We incarnate in all of these different races.
26:43
And we, like you're talking about, you have a soul family, and
26:47
your soul family can be multiple different extraterrestrial races.
26:52
Absolutely.
26:53
In fact, we, It- it's an unwritten cosmic universal rule that when a race is able
27:00
to evolve off of its planet, and travel there's an obligation that you go and
27:07
assist other lower evolving races as well.
27:11
And it's the full fourth to fifth density transitional phase when we give back.
27:18
Because if you, if we help another race, we're helping ourselves.
27:22
Because this is something that's important for people to know too, is that all
27:27
of these races, even the bad ones, which there's 5, 8% of all of them are
27:33
because they're more about controlling others, not, supporting others.
27:38
Even the n- the negative, what we would call a negative race,
27:42
we're all on a journey to reunification with God, with Source.
27:46
Because they all call Him Source.
27:47
They don't, they call the thought that created the universe the Source.
27:53
And and it… But we refer to in the West as God, it, we just
27:57
have different terminology, but it's the same exact thing.
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And so we're all on the same journey.
28:02
Wow.
28:03
And that's why I tell people, "Let's just get along.
28:06
You don't have to agree with everything." But there's a there's no other option.
28:10
Even the negative ones are trying to get back to Source in their way,
28:13
although it's a bit of a distraction.
28:16
So we're all, the whole universe is working toward reunification with Source.
28:20
So how can we not get along with people?
28:22
So that's the reason that they're so supportive, and people wonder
28:26
why do they have, co- coalitions in every developing solar system.
28:33
Why would they put the resources out just to help a lower evolving race?
28:37
And it's because we all have the same goal, and we're all
28:40
working toward reunification.
28:43
Yeah.
28:43
But here with the Lyrans-
28:46
Interesting.
28:47
Yeah.
28:48
Yeah.
28:48
So human physical body and like a different-
28:53
Spiritual.
28:54
Yeah … yeah.
28:54
But these are the this is an AI.
28:56
Some of them I've started to translate over to AI image-
28:59
… ' Cause they look better.
29:00
But these are all races I drew and painted, Oh, wow
29:04
on my own, from my memories.
29:06
Incredible.
29:07
Yeah.
29:08
Wow that's excellent, Chris.
29:09
Good job.
29:10
Oh, thanks.
29:10
So it's, again, probably helping people have these memories.
29:14
My memories are, working with a lot of different races like that.
29:19
You see them for who they are.
29:20
Like you're talking about the sh- when you come on a ship,
29:22
the ship is "Ah, I don't know."
29:24
And then you, they, you prove yourself and they're like, "Oh, yeah." Like a puppy
29:27
after that e- every time you come back.
29:29
Yeah.
29:29
You can look at a certain race, and at first you'd be like, "Oh,
29:33
this looks a little different," but you get a okay feeling from them.
29:37
Yeah … and then once you get to know them, you're like, "These, it's…
29:40
What incredible beings."
29:42
And many of them have this emanation of love.
29:44
Like- Yeah … they walk into the room, you can feel it.
29:47
Yeah.
29:47
Yeah, you turn and look and say, "What in the world is that?"
29:50
A- and many of them do because they're more advanced so spiritually.
29:54
… And so they just, they learn to use that frequency of love in a
29:58
way that we haven't learned yet.
29:59
In fact, most humans really have never felt true love.
30:05
Yeah.
30:05
We just haven't because it's, we don't have the capacity.
30:09
Physical bodies don't, and the brains don't quite have the capacity.
30:13
We can, but we have to practice love all the time and then move into that space.
30:18
Like the love of a newborn or, a love of a child, those come
30:22
as close as you're gonna get-
30:24
In my personal experience.
30:26
Fantastic.
30:27
Beautiful.
30:28
So three 20 and backs.
30:32
M- it would make sense because you already had, chosen to do that.
30:35
Some people like we're hearing, are basically kidnapped and
30:40
and forced to do 20 and backs.
30:42
So it it seems like you and I were, we volunteered for these
30:46
programs for the, on the good side.
30:48
But some people- Yeah … unfortunately are not working for the good
30:51
side in these 20 and backs.
30:53
Where did you see the difference?
30:55
The the, like the parallel group that's running out there that's, not only up and
31:00
up, they're not, focused on love, right?
31:03
They're focu- focused on slaves and control and- Yes … dark
31:07
energies and all that kind of stuff.
31:08
Where did you see that that break and how did you end up with the the good side?
31:14
I made the agreement before I came, so I already knew what side I wanted to be on.
31:20
And so that's that's why I, we had them come and get me and take me.
31:23
But-
31:24
… I had experiences with some of the dark fleet, we often refer to them as.
31:29
Sure.
31:29
Where, you know, because… There's a couple things here in my brain.
31:35
On a cosmic level, when anybody is from a particular planet, for
31:41
example, Earth humans, and I say Earth humans 'cause there are
31:44
humans from other places as well.
31:47
Of course.
31:47
But Earth humans, we're all responsible for one another,
31:50
down to the singular person.
31:52
So if the dark fleet's out there not even being represented by us, but they
31:58
do something bad, steal, kill, kidnap w- you and I are responsible for that.
32:05
Yeah.
32:05
And we have to go figure that out.
32:07
And so there was a particular circumstance where the dark fleet
32:13
went, they were trying to trade, I believe it was a form of crystal.
32:16
I don't remember that part.
32:18
But they had a, they had an asteroid mining complex.
32:22
And so the dark fleet went, tried to s- negotiate a purchase, but they
32:26
wouldn't sell to them because they were part of the Confederation of Planets,
32:30
and there was, like, an embargo.
32:32
So they got angry and they left, but they came back and they attacked.
32:37
They took what they wanted and killed about 300,000 of these beings.
32:41
They were tall, thin Grays with a triangular head.
32:44
And so- Long story short, I I was in negotiations trying to make them
32:51
okay with what happened, which is al- almost impossible because they were
32:55
gonna come to Earth or attack a colony.
32:58
I don't know what they were gonna do exactly, but I remember
33:00
they were talking about coming to Earth and exacting revenge.
33:04
Yeah.
33:04
And then leaving the Confederation altogether.
33:07
So it was an emergency, and I and two others and then security went to the
33:13
asteroid, and we were in negotiation, sitting in a boardroom, and it didn't
33:19
go well, and I got shot and killed.
33:23
One being just ran his… across his chest, and he was just wearing
33:27
a vest, and his skin was exposed.
33:30
And then he ran his hand across his chest, and this blue-green light
33:33
came out of where our heart would be and hit me in the shoulder and
33:37
knocked me back and killed me.
33:38
But it's, i- it's…
33:40
Because we're responsible for the actions of those people that did
33:44
that's why I was there, and that's why we have our embassy there, to try to
33:48
make things right before it escalates.
33:51
And I was moved into another body, and then, I was okay after a few days, but-
33:56
Very nice.
33:56
It was good.
33:58
But yeah, that's… the negotiators like yourself are very important and on, on
34:03
the good guy side, when guys like me, get involved it's not gonna be pretty.
34:08
That's why, it's your work is very important in that realm.
34:12
We kinda see that right now with President Trump.
34:14
I'm like I can't believe we haven't gone in there to just just crush them, and
34:18
but he's doing it, through negotiation.
34:22
We're gonna get it all the way to this point, and then if it's, they
34:24
don't You know, come to terms, see the light, see the love.
34:28
Then we're gonna have to like, take it to a different level.
34:31
So that's what your work was obviously doing.
34:34
That's pretty impressive.
34:36
Yeah.
34:36
It was really important and it meant a lot to me, and I really wanted
34:39
to, be in that position that I could help save lives, and, a- and show
34:47
other races that humans are not as bad as they think we are, because
34:51
we are as bad as they think we are.
34:54
Yeah.
34:54
We're not the most rational, race.
34:58
Some of us are obviously but if we're still killing one another,
35:00
they're like, "How could you do that?
35:03
How can you not be, getting along and understanding?" But we're
35:07
in our transition right now,
35:09
yeah.
35:10
And we do have a very negative race of Draco that have been influencing us for
35:13
a long time and have been interbreeding with us and all that kind of stuff, so
35:17
that's not, that is, that's not helpful.
35:19
Not at all.
35:20
No, and that's all part of the plan.
35:22
But that's what we're working through right now.
35:24
I won't be too much longer this Earth is gonna be a much different
35:28
place in a very positive way.
35:30
So we just kinda have to get through the bumpy road between now and then,
35:34
yeah.
35:34
Very good.
35:34
Very good point.
35:35
Yeah.
35:36
Yeah, I see it.
35:37
I see it in the future, too.
35:38
Golden age.
35:40
So you're, let's go to the Saturn moon.
35:43
Tell us about that.
35:43
It looks like something out of Star Wars.
35:47
Interesting.
35:48
It's part of soft disclosure because the I think I can show you this.
35:51
You might be able to see it.
35:52
So that's the moon of Mimas right there.
35:55
Yeah.
35:56
And it looks like the Death Star.
35:59
Exactly.
35:59
And there's a reason for that.
36:01
In nine- whenever the original Star Wars came out, I think it
36:06
was 1974 three or whatever it was.
36:11
It was three years later once the first Star Wars came out, three years
36:16
later is when Cassini flew by and took the first photos of the moon Mimas.
36:22
And lo and behold, it looks just like the Death Star.
36:26
Yeah.
36:27
But that was intentional because the Confederation of Planets on
36:30
Mimas was working with Spielberg.
36:33
They still are.
36:34
Wow.
36:35
And the new movie coming out-
36:37
Yeah
36:37
… is a big deal.
36:39
I haven't seen it, I don't know, but it's exciting at least.
36:41
But so that's why Mimas looks like the Death Star.
36:45
… It's just a hint saying, okay, isn't this odd?
36:50
It makes you think, and that's the whole point of it.
36:52
That's what soft disclosure is.
36:53
Many sci-fi films and TV shows, especially lately, are just telling
36:59
us the truth left and right.
37:01
Yeah.
37:01
Yeah.
37:01
So we're not too shocked, as a race.
37:05
I have memories of flying ships and going from one density to another going from
37:10
the air into the water like it's nothing.
37:13
And connecting with my craft.
37:16
And it's like the intention is there, and then the craft goes into some
37:20
kind of other dimensional realm or something and we can fly, from
37:24
transition from one to the other.
37:26
You probably remember that one show Voyage to the Bottom of the Shi-
37:30
Sea, where they had that craft.
37:31
It was like a submarine, and they had a craft that would launch,
37:34
and it would go in and out of the water like it was nothing.
37:38
And when I saw that, I was like, kinda like you, I was
37:40
like, "That's, I remember that."
37:42
It's like-
37:42
Yeah
37:43
… I remember, flying those things somehow.
37:44
I, but how could I?
37:46
And but and then going through f- matter.
37:50
Some people think that these craft are going into some kind of, and
37:54
sometimes they do through a portal or something when they go into a
37:58
mountain, but it's the same thing.
37:59
They're transitioning into a different frequency, dimensional
38:03
realm, and they can fly through a mountain and come out the other side.
38:06
And that would be if they're being chased, 'cause there are
38:09
wars going on in our atmosphere.
38:12
… Craft are being shot down.
38:14
And that's, we see some of that.
38:17
And they do back engineering on it and so forth, but what are your thoughts on that?
38:22
We've had thousands and thousands of ships for 40 years.
38:26
If not longer.
38:28
Yeah.
38:28
And a- and so that's the US I'm referring to.
38:31
We've had them for a very long time.
38:33
A lot of them are actually… They're n- they weren't piloted,
38:37
especially at the beginning.
38:38
They were remote.
38:40
So a lot of what we saw, it was us, but we couldn't talk about it they
38:45
just let us think what we wanted to think, which m- was reasonable to think
38:49
it was somebody from another planet.
38:52
So a lot of them were actually us the whole time.
38:55
Some of them were not.
38:57
Some of the ones that were shot down, like the Roswell scenario-
39:00
… That was totally intentional by some fairly negative beings.
39:06
And they basically sacrificed two synthetic beings and one biological
39:11
being, and flew them right over the desert, and then we shot it down.
39:16
And then they came to the government and said, "Hey, now that you have our ship
39:22
how would you like the technology in it?"
39:26
It was, like, fiber optics and Wi-Fi and this other stuff.
39:30
Yeah.
39:30
And they're like, "Yeah, what do we gotta do?" And then they went and
39:33
they met with Eisenhower and he said, "My people are not ready for this.
39:39
So I don't wanna make a deal with you." Which was a, turned out to be a good
39:41
thing because these weren't the good guys.
39:43
They were the-
39:44
Yeah
39:44
… unfortunate guys.
39:46
And so he said no.
39:48
So then 12 men from large corporations we call The Majestic 12-
39:57
Yeah
39:57
… came in, contacted this race, and said, "The president won't make an agreement
40:03
with you, but we will." So they got all this technology and how to make
40:07
it and, I think they were l- they were limited in what they really taught us.
40:13
But they said, "The only thing we want in return, because our g- genetic DNA, we're
40:19
dying off," and which was a big old lie.
40:22
We wanna abduct basically 300,000 Americans.
40:27
And so The Majestic 12 agreed.
40:30
They didn't have a place.
40:31
They couldn't even do it legally, but they did it.
40:34
But it turned out that they ended up abducting several hundred thousand people,
40:38
and then it became a conflict and, and so it was just a big problem after that.
40:43
But that's how it started.
40:46
I've never heard this version, but it rings true.
40:48
Wow.
40:49
Yeah.
40:50
So
40:50
if we're seeing that now, this negative corporate side that's running a parallel
40:55
government type thing, and those that get out of line that they wanna, suppress
40:59
this information 'cause they have control of it or they wanna keep control of it.
41:03
So these scientists and so forth that are bui- revealing their technology
41:07
that they've developed over a long time through the help of negative ETs they're,
41:11
that's why they're killing them off
41:14
Yeah.
41:15
You gotta, they had to get rid of the witnesses basically and-
41:19
Yeah
41:19
… sad but true.
41:21
And it ended up that they started, basically a war with us, but then we
41:26
ended up with support to fight them off and push them down south into Antarctica,
41:32
which they were for quite a long time.
41:35
I don't really know personally that much about Antarctica
41:38
other than that they were there.
41:40
Yep.
41:40
And then they also went to our moon to retreat,
41:45
yeah.
41:46
That's where I remember seeing them going to the moon base and training there.
41:50
It's kinda everybody's off limits.
41:52
You can't fight but there's a little tension.
41:55
Yeah … and, the humans that are up there, we have the worst area of the
41:58
moon, and then everybody else has the best areas depending on what their level is.
42:02
But it's… That's interesting.
42:04
So now I have memories of also having a home on one of the
42:09
moons of Saturn and living there.
42:13
And, have a f- in the secret space program have a family.
42:17
And so having my own moon because of the level that I'm at I, I rated a, of a moon.
42:23
The Saturn rings and so forth 'cause there's tons of moons.
42:27
I mean-
42:27
… Trilli- billions of moons or wha- or whatever, so of different sizes.
42:31
So the moon that you're talking about you're… I saw where
42:36
you said it's dimensional?
42:39
Yeah.
42:39
It's if you wanted to locate, it's the first moon outside
42:43
the visible rings of Saturn.
42:45
The first one.
42:47
It's about 123 miles across and in radius.
42:51
And so it, it's not gigantic, but it's pretty big.
42:55
It's a lot smaller than our moon.
42:58
But yeah.
42:58
What, It was a natural occurring body, just like our
43:02
moon, but they were reworked.
43:04
And so what they did was this high density race of beings, which we
43:10
would refer to as angels or, whoever.
43:13
We all have different terminologies.
43:15
Yeah.
43:16
They're high density, and they can create anything from thought
43:22
A lot of races can, but, we can't.
43:24
We will be able to soon.
43:26
Yeah.
43:26
And so they created this, reworked this moon into a station.
43:32
And the space station, the moon Mimas it they created different parts of
43:37
it for different density levels.
43:41
And okay, for example, if you look up thermal images of Mimas from
43:46
NASA, they can't figure out why it's like it's hot here and cold here and
43:50
hot here, and it wobbles over here.
43:52
They can't figure out why.
43:53
The reason there's temperature fluctuations of such a large degree
43:58
is because those are different areas of different density, higher density.
44:03
So the higher density beings live in high temperatures.
44:07
Like for example, they live on suns.
44:09
Like our own sun has a race that lives on it.
44:12
But then there are others that are where we are.
44:15
So we ca- we, our temperature range is, much more narrow and a lot cooler.
44:20
But also the reason there's a wobble to Mimas is because
44:23
there's an ocean in there.
44:24
Wow.
44:25
Probably more than one.
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And the interesting thing is that right next to the Earth Embassy
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is a redwood forest on Mimas.
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That's how big the moon is.
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Goodness.
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And we, 'cause it's the Earth Embassy, and so any intelligent life from
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Earth, is generally invited to join the embassy, and that includes Sasquatch.
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And they're there as well.
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And they live in the redwood forest 'cause that's what their preference is, right?
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Being out in nature, which I totally get, if it just wasn't
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for the bugs, but but no.
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We have a lot a number of different races at, in the Earth Embassy.
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There are hundreds of people from Earth that live there.
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And there are actually 22, from what I knew, 22 major outposts or stations
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or places that Earth humans reside.
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22 major ones.
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But we're on over 100 different planets and asteroids, you know-
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Wow … and space stations.
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We're all over the place.
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Incredible.
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Yeah.
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And that's just in our solar system?
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Generally, but we're outside of the solar system as well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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How how far out do we go as,
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The furthest I'm aware of or was aware of was like at Betelgeuse.
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Wow.
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That, that section.
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I know we were there, and there's another one.
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I'm a very visual person.
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I don't remember all the names, but I can look at a star chart and "Oh
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yeah, we're here, and we're here."
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Yeah.
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But yeah.
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But mainly Be- Betelgeuse 'cause, that's easy to remember.
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Incredible.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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It's such fascinating conversation.
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And so the angelic beings like you were talking about, so I had a
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Archangel Michael experience, and from that point on, I really understood
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the love frequency, was able to use it every- everywhere I would go.
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In combat zones I would send out that love frequency and it
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wouldn't be any more attacks.
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Now I have memories of going to Venus and training.
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That was one of my training sites where I learned that, that love frequency
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even more 'cause my memories are there there's angelics there in inside Venus.
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Yeah.
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'Cause the temperature is so high, but then they have… I
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have never, I don't have memories of being there, I've just heard-
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Yeah
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… that they have like underground places and they have some domes that are
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protected from the heat, and they can live and reside in those areas.
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But I don't have memories of it, but-
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Lots of waterfalls and water and all that kinda stuff in there,
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so that's kinda what I remember.
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Yeah.
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And doing-
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But then- … doing some
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meditation
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… a lot of ships have forests on them, and they have-
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Wow
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… they have waterfalls.
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I remember ships that were like pristine, pure white, just what you imagine
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something being super futuristic.
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And then there's a big doorway and a little hall, and you go in there and it's
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like waterfalls and trees and it's… The- these ships are pretty amazing.
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Not, we don't have any of those that I'm aware of.
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Ours are much more utilitarian.
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Yeah.
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But I've been on some pretty amazing ships.
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Yeah I've heard stories of that where it, on the outside it looks like,
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small craft, and then you go inside and it's like you're talking about, huge.
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It's wow.
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Like the TARDIS, right?
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From Doctor Who.
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He- that little tiny phone box turns into an infinity of space.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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How does that how does that work?
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What kind of mathematics dimensional frequency stuff is that w- going on there?
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I don't know.
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I wish I knew.
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Yeah.
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But I do know it's a layered dimensional effect.
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That's the only thing I remember.
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That- Is somehow they layer dimensions-
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Yeah … to
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pack them together.
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And how they compress them to an exterior.
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Because that's, the exterior of those dimensions are actually physical form.
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So you can put dimensions in any size or shape or of anything.
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And if you have the right technology.
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Yeah.
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And that's a problem, like you, you mentioned in your book.
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You have to be trained.
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So we're trained to be dumb, to not understand any of this.
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Come overcoming that.
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And then, like you, I have memories of this stuff, but I don't
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know how to explain it in, this realm 'cause we're dumbed down.
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We don't have the technology.
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We don't have the understanding and so forth.
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But I know you're deep into meditation and that's the way, that's the way I
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f- pull a lot of this information out.
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If I have the time and I can, go into the… Sometimes I just get inspired.
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It's like with your book, I was already, this morning I was like going into these
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realms, these meditative realms where I could start to pull that information f-
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out again that's there for all of us.
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But we've, like you're talking about, we come in with a veil and we're forgetful.
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Yeah.
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S- books like yourself and this conversation, a lot of people are saying,
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"This is a great conversation. I'm learning so much." And that's true because
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people will they'll start to awaken.
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Yeah.
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And the veil will drop a little bit, and then they'll get a piece of information.
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They'll be with that for a little bit, and they'll understand it, and
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then they'll come back for more.
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Yeah.
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So that's amazing.
49:27
So yeah, you're contributing quite a bit, so- Yeah, explaining this stuff
49:33
back again to your healing wand.
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You put the magnets together and so forth, and all…
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That's, the, another frequency thing.
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Tell us a little bit more about that 'cause I, I'm getting excited about
49:46
getting off the show and buying one, . I'm gonna be- Some of these
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people are out there already buying it.
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Yeah.
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Basically since I explained that it creates a vortex of energy, it doesn't
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do anything except for amplify earth energy, ambient energy around us.
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Because normally if we were grounding every day, we were going barefoot
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and we weren't living in houses, we would be connected to the earth
50:13
in a way that we would be much more telepathic, much more psychic,
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much… We'd heal much more quickly.
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Earth-
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But we're not.
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Definitely.
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All connecting to the earth, we're not connecting enough.
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Some people obviously do, a majority of us don't.
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So this kinda replaces that.
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Yeah.
50:28
And it just brings that energy in, and that's the energy our
50:32
body uses for healing, and it uses that energy for communication.
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It balances w- 'cause we've gotta balance our chakras and, our energy centers.
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And when we can do that, then we're open to communication, 'cause our
50:46
frequency raises up, and then they can kinda come down and we can
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meet one another in the middle.
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So that's kinda the whole point of raising our vibration and balancing the chakras.
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It's not… also it's better for our body to be balanced energetically speaking,
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because it's just an energy flow.
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And so that helps with all of that.
51:05
But but yeah, it's each device has eight carats of micro diamonds.
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And and it's, so it's these 13 magnets in the handle in series, and it's
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split down the middle like a iron rod.
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Like a Baghdad battery.
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I don't know if you know what that is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's like those ancient batteries.
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But-
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So they lit up those temples and stuff too.
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Yes.
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A- and they healed.
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They would lay it, lay them on the body, and the body,
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he- it would generate energy.
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Okay.
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And also create light, what you're saying.
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Yeah.
51:39
So-
51:39
And I recommend everybody go to your website and, 'cause you
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have a video, a nice video where you talk about this really well.
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Really deep.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
51:46
Yeah.
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It's much more inclusive.
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It's I don't know, 11 minutes or something.
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Yeah.
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But yeah.
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And so the DEMS itself only em- emanates piezoelectric and mag- and
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magnetic energy for the most part.
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That's all it does.
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But it's what our body needs and is starving for.
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So then our body does everything.
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We heal ourself.
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Our body heals itself.
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And this is just support.
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It's all it is.
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Incredible.
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Incredible, Chris
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Yeah, thanks
52:15
Any final words?
52:16
We're definitely gonna have to do a lot more shows in the future,
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but, … any other things you'd like to share at this point?
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Well- I would like to share that we, you and I, all of us, are much
52:30
more connected than we realize.
52:32
Yeah.
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We are really truly all one, it's just we have been told to judge one another,
52:39
to separate us, and to keep us from getting along so that we don't become
52:43
more powerful than the powers that be.
52:47
And that's what they're concerned about is that we'll get together, but
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that's w- exactly what we need to do, and that's what I s- suggest we do.
52:53
So a quick little practice to do that is when you look into the face
52:59
of another person, whether in person or, on video or photo, look into
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the face of a stranger, of somebody you love, and see the face of God.
53:11
Ooh.
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Then you look into the mirror, looking at yourself, and see the face of
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God and realize we're all one and we're all here for the same purpose.
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We just don't all remember yet.
53:25
Wow, that's just beautiful.
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We- well done, Chris.
53:28
And your… People were asking about your website again.
53:30
I put it in the chat and it's in the description box, but
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tell them what's your website.
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It's Deems, D-E-E-M-S.
53:39
So Deems Company spelled out.
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Deemscompany.com.
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Very nice.
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Yeah.
53:45
All right.
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Beautiful.
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'Cause I know probably people will listen to it on their phone or-
53:51
Yeah … w- we'll, we put this on Audible too and so people can enjoy it.
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And we'll put some clips together, it'll be amazing.
53:58
People are gonna love this one.
53:59
Yeah, it's-
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Yeah.
54:01
Very exciting.
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Very exciting times.
54:03
Along the lines that you're talking about, the combat aspect, when
54:07
I… Me and my groups were called in to do that, we tried to do the
54:12
combat as minimalized as possible.
54:15
Unfortunately, that's why I was killed probably several times that I know, that
54:18
I remember because we were trying to minimize it because every one of those
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entities that were taken out, reverberated back to us to a certain extent.
54:28
So that's one of the, that's one of the things, again, like you're talking about,
54:32
look at everyone and see the face of God.
54:34
I, it's just tough to do that and,
54:36
yeah
54:37
… yeah.
54:38
And- But, certain levels you have to do it, but,
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Yeah
54:42
… yeah.
54:42
So-
54:43
You don't have to understand them or agree with them.
54:46
You just understand that they're a different aspect of the same being-
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Beautiful
54:51
… experiencing all possibilities.
54:54
That's good.
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Very good.
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Yeah.
54:59
All right.
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We're- Really great show on a whole different level, I believe.
55:02
Yeah, it was great.
55:03
Great connecting with you.
55:04
Great you opened up so much more for me.
55:06
I've been challenged a little bit in this Secret Space Program stuff a little bit.
55:10
'Cause James Rink's gone.
55:11
He was bringing a lot of stuff in they try to keep shutting us
55:13
down, but we'll keep it going.
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Yeah.
55:16
Thanks so much.
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I loved James, so
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great.
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Yeah.
55:19
Cheers.
55:19
All right, Michael.
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Thank you for asking me here again.
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Yeah.
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And lots of love to you.
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Thanks a lot.
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You too, and bye.
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Bye.